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.cmbox-protection{background-color:#212112}}</style><table class="plainlinks cmbox cmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6c/Wiki_letter_w.svg/50px-Wiki_letter_w.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6c/Wiki_letter_w.svg/75px-Wiki_letter_w.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6c/Wiki_letter_w.svg/100px-Wiki_letter_w.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="44" data-file-height="44"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><div> <p style="font-size:larger; font-weight:bolder; text-align:center;">Help to de-orphan articles.</p> <p>1. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Orphanage" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Orphanage">WikiProject Orphanage</a> - working to reduce the article backlog.</p> <p>2. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Orphan" title="Wikipedia:Orphan">Wikipedia:Orphan</a> - the complete <i>How-to Guide</i> for Orphaned articles.</p> <p>» De-orphaning articles is an important aspect of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Build_the_web" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Build the web">building the web</a></b>.</p> </div></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:JoeNMLC" title="User:JoeNMLC">JoeNMLC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JoeNMLC" title="User talk:JoeNMLC">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-JoeNMLC-20240911125000-Orphan_article_Derrick_Cameron" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoeNMLC-20240911125000-Orphan_article_Derrick_Cameron"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mccapra&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Deletion of Wiki Page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hlbrooks-20240923184500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_of_Wiki_Page-20240923184500","replies":["c-Hlbrooks-20240923184500-Deletion_of_Wiki_Page"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Hlbrooks-20240926182000-Asilvering-20240926181700","timestamp":"20240926182000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__12__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Hlbrooks-20240923184500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_of_Wiki_Page-20240923184500","replies":["c-Hlbrooks-20240923184500-Deletion_of_Wiki_Page"],"text":"Deletion of Wiki Page","linkableTitle":"Deletion of Wiki Page"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923184500-Deletion_of_Wiki_Page"></span>RE: Wikipedia page for Joël André Ornstein <a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Joël_André_Ornstein_(2nd_nomination)">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Joël_André_Ornstein_(2nd_nomination)</a> </p><p>Dear Contributor, </p><p>I am writing about the proposed deletion for Mr. Ornstein's Wikipedia page and acknowledge that the page has not been updated for over 11 years. I would appreciate the opportunity to revise and improve it by adding more recent, relevant content supported by reliable sources and I am committed to ensuring that the page aligns with Wikipedia’s notability standards. </p><p>I welcome any feedback on how I can enhance the article further. Could you also advise me on the best way to proceed with these updates to avoid deletion? </p><p>Thank you in advance for your consideration and guidance. </p><p>Heather </p><p>P.S. Please note that I am the previous assistant to Mr. Ornstein, but I am assisting him with fixing the current Wiki issues. I was the one that initially created the page, and I do not believe that it has been updated since then (I worked with Mr. Ornstein from 2005 - 2021). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hlbrooks" title="User talk:Hlbrooks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Hlbrooks-20240923184500-Deletion_of_Wiki_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923184500-Deletion_of_Wiki_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240923184500","author":"Hlbrooks","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hlbrooks-20240923184500-Deletion_of_Wiki_Page","replies":["c-Mccapra-20240923200300-Hlbrooks-20240923184500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hlbrooks-20240923184500-Deletion_of_Wiki_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mccapra-20240923200300-Hlbrooks-20240923184500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a>:</span> hi thanks for your message. The article was deleted by consensus a month ago. You can ask an admin to restore it for you - I can’t do that I’m afraid - but if you message <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">User:Asilvering</a> or <a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">User:HouseBlaster</a> one of them will be able to help you. All the best <a href="/wiki/User:Mccapra" title="User:Mccapra">Mccapra</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Mccapra-20240923200300-Hlbrooks-20240923184500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mccapra-20240923200300-Hlbrooks-20240923184500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240923200300","author":"Mccapra","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mccapra-20240923200300-Hlbrooks-20240923184500","replies":["c-Hlbrooks-20240923200700-Mccapra-20240923200300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mccapra-20240923200300-Hlbrooks-20240923184500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923200700-Mccapra-20240923200300"></span>Thank you so much for your reply and the information. I will reach out to the Admins. :) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hlbrooks" title="User talk:Hlbrooks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Hlbrooks-20240923200700-Mccapra-20240923200300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923200700-Mccapra-20240923200300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240923200700","author":"Hlbrooks","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hlbrooks-20240923200700-Mccapra-20240923200300","replies":["c-Asilvering-20240923201100-Hlbrooks-20240923200700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hlbrooks-20240923200700-Mccapra-20240923200300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asilvering-20240923201100-Hlbrooks-20240923200700"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a>, can you show us sources that would qualify as significant, independent, secondary coverage on this person? (See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>) -- <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">asilvering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asilvering" title="User talk:Asilvering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Asilvering-20240923201100-Hlbrooks-20240923200700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asilvering-20240923201100-Hlbrooks-20240923200700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240923201100","author":"Asilvering","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Asilvering-20240923201100-Hlbrooks-20240923200700","replies":["c-Hlbrooks-20240923201700-Asilvering-20240923201100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asilvering-20240923201100-Hlbrooks-20240923200700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923201700-Asilvering-20240923201100"></span>Hi asilvering, thank you for your message. I was in another page preparing a message for you, so perfect timing. :)</dd> <dd>I only became aware of the deletion today. I no longer work with Mr. Onrstein, but I am helping him with this matter. I only mention this because I need to do some research and put together all of the information. I have a copy of the original page that was deleted from the Wayback Machine.</dd> <dd>I think the best way to proceed is to put it all together, links, etc and then revert back to this thread. Is that okay? Also, if there is anything additional that you think I should keep in mind when compiling the data let me know. Otherwise, I will go through the information on Wikipedia and follow the guidelines. Again, thank you all for your assistance. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hlbrooks" title="User talk:Hlbrooks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Hlbrooks-20240923201700-Asilvering-20240923201100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923201700-Asilvering-20240923201100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240923201700","author":"Hlbrooks","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Hlbrooks-20240923201700-Asilvering-20240923201100","replies":["c-Asilvering-20240923202800-Hlbrooks-20240923201700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hlbrooks-20240923201700-Asilvering-20240923201100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asilvering-20240923202800-Hlbrooks-20240923201700"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "revert back to this thread". What you can do if you want to recreate the article is make a draft at <a href="/wiki/Draft:Jo%C3%ABl_Andr%C3%A9_Ornstein" title="Draft:Joël André Ornstein">Draft:Joël André Ornstein</a> and work there - but I wouldn't recommend doing that. Better would be to gather some good sources that you think were overlooked in the discussion before you start any kind of rewriting, since if it turns out that the deletion discussion was correct and there are no further useful sources, I don't want you to have wasted your time trying to rewrite the article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">asilvering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asilvering" title="User talk:Asilvering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Asilvering-20240923202800-Hlbrooks-20240923201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asilvering-20240923202800-Hlbrooks-20240923201700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240923202800","author":"Asilvering","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Asilvering-20240923202800-Hlbrooks-20240923201700","replies":["c-Hlbrooks-20240923203200-Asilvering-20240923202800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asilvering-20240923202800-Hlbrooks-20240923201700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923203200-Asilvering-20240923202800"></span>I meant that I would revert back to this thread to supply you with the additional sources/links that I gather. I can see now what I wrote above was not clear. I will put sources/links together and post them back here once ready. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hlbrooks" title="User talk:Hlbrooks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Hlbrooks-20240923203200-Asilvering-20240923202800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923203200-Asilvering-20240923202800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240923203200","author":"Hlbrooks","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Hlbrooks-20240923203200-Asilvering-20240923202800","replies":["c-Asilvering-20240923203800-Hlbrooks-20240923203200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hlbrooks-20240923203200-Asilvering-20240923202800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asilvering-20240923203800-Hlbrooks-20240923203200"></span>Ah, I see. On wikipedia, "revert" has a very specific meaning: it describes the action of undoing an edit. If you use that word here in any other context, you're likely to confuse us. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">asilvering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asilvering" title="User talk:Asilvering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Asilvering-20240923203800-Hlbrooks-20240923203200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asilvering-20240923203800-Hlbrooks-20240923203200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240923203800","author":"Asilvering","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Asilvering-20240923203800-Hlbrooks-20240923203200","replies":["c-Hlbrooks-20240923204200-Asilvering-20240923203800","c-Hlbrooks-20240926180800-Asilvering-20240923203800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asilvering-20240923203800-Hlbrooks-20240923203200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923204200-Asilvering-20240923203800"></span>See, I am not very tech savvy on Wikipedia. :) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hlbrooks" title="User talk:Hlbrooks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Hlbrooks-20240923204200-Asilvering-20240923203800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hlbrooks-20240923204200-Asilvering-20240923203800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240923204200","author":"Hlbrooks","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Hlbrooks-20240923204200-Asilvering-20240923203800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hlbrooks-20240923204200-Asilvering-20240923203800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hlbrooks-20240926180800-Asilvering-20240923203800"></span>I have recreated the page in Draft mode, as the previous version was quite outdated. Given that I haven’t worked with Wiki in over ten years, I wanted to take this opportunity to learn and reacquaint myself with the procedures. It was fun, though I found myself a bit confused regarding the distinction between References and External Links. I believe I may need to add more items to the References section. Could you please take a look at what I've created and let me know if I'm on the right track? I would appreciate any guidance on what else I might need to include to get the page reinstated. Here is the Draft: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Joël_André_Ornstein#Jo%C3%ABl_Andr%C3%A9_Ornstein">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Joël_André_Ornstein#Jo%C3%ABl_Andr%C3%A9_Ornstein</a></dd> <dd>Additionally, I encountered an issue while trying to upload an image and a PDF for the bio, receiving the error message below. I would like to resolve this so I can continue contributing to Wiki in the future, as I really enjoyed the process :)</dd> <dd><b>Automated filter Special:AbuseFilter/281</b></dd> <dd>Commons no longer allows new users to upload PDF files.<b></b></dd> <dd>This decision was reached because by far most attempted uploads of PDFs by new users turned out to be either copyright violations or out of scope. If you were not the original file designer or photographer, that original creator may need to provide an appropriate license on their official website or public-facing social media, or may send the file and permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you.</dd> <dd>If you cannot get a compliant license, it is possible that the file may still be uploaded to the relevant wiki in compliance with their local rules. If this upload is your own work, or is someone else's appropriately licensed work, and is within Commons' scope, please go to the page Commons:Abuse filter and click the report an issue with an abuse filter button near the top of the page.</dd> <dd>To discuss PDFs, and their relevance to WikiCommons, please start a new thread at Commons:Village pump. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hlbrooks" title="User talk:Hlbrooks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Hlbrooks-20240926180800-Asilvering-20240923203800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hlbrooks-20240926180800-Asilvering-20240923203800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240926180800","author":"Hlbrooks","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Hlbrooks-20240926180800-Asilvering-20240923203800","replies":["c-Asilvering-20240926181700-Hlbrooks-20240926180800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hlbrooks-20240926180800-Asilvering-20240923203800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asilvering-20240926181700-Hlbrooks-20240926180800"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hlbrooks&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hlbrooks (page does not exist)">Hlbrooks</a>, so that we're not taking up Mccapra's user talk page, can you start a talk page for the draft instead? Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">asilvering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asilvering" title="User talk:Asilvering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Asilvering-20240926181700-Hlbrooks-20240926180800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asilvering-20240926181700-Hlbrooks-20240926180800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240926181700","author":"Asilvering","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Asilvering-20240926181700-Hlbrooks-20240926180800","replies":["c-Hlbrooks-20240926182000-Asilvering-20240926181700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asilvering-20240926181700-Hlbrooks-20240926180800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hlbrooks-20240926182000-Asilvering-20240926181700"></span>Completed. I tagged you in the talk/page. 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data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192600-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Paytonisboss-20241023193500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Help_on_Johnny_Partin-20241023193500","replies":["c-Paytonisboss-20241023193500-Help_on_Johnny_Partin"],"text":"Help on Johnny Partin","linkableTitle":"Help on Johnny Partin"}--><h2 id="Help_on_Johnny_Partin" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_on_Johnny_Partin-20241023193500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_on_Johnny_Partin-20241023193500"></span>Help on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Johnny_Partin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Johnny Partin (page does not exist)">Johnny Partin</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_on_Johnny_Partin-20241023193500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mccapra&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Help on Johnny Partin"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Paytonisboss-20241023193500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Help_on_Johnny_Partin-20241023193500","replies":["c-Paytonisboss-20241023193500-Help_on_Johnny_Partin"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Paytonisboss-20241023220300-Mccapra-20241023215700","timestamp":"20241023220300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Paytonisboss-20241023193500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Help_on_Johnny_Partin-20241023193500","replies":["c-Paytonisboss-20241023193500-Help_on_Johnny_Partin"],"text":"Help on Johnny Partin","linkableTitle":"Help on Johnny Partin"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paytonisboss-20241023193500-Help_on_Johnny_Partin"></span>hello i was wondering if the edit i just made on the page im creating <a href="/w/index.php?title=Johnny_Partin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Johnny Partin (page does not exist)">Johnny Partin</a> is better for the copyright issue i had because i reworded everything that is now in the artical and i wanted to know if its better </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Paytonisboss" title="User:Paytonisboss">Paytonisboss</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paytonisboss" title="User talk:Paytonisboss">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Paytonisboss-20241023193500-Help_on_Johnny_Partin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paytonisboss-20241023193500-Help_on_Johnny_Partin"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241023193500","author":"Paytonisboss","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paytonisboss-20241023193500-Help_on_Johnny_Partin","replies":["c-Mccapra-20241023215700-Paytonisboss-20241023193500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paytonisboss-20241023193500-Help_on_Johnny_Partin"></span> </p> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mccapra-20241023215700-Paytonisboss-20241023193500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Paytonisboss" title="User:Paytonisboss">Paytonisboss</a>:</span> hi if you scroll down on <a class="external text" href="https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Johnny%20Partin&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0&noredirect=true">this link</a> you can see which pieces of text you still need to reword in order to remove that issue. Keeping quotes as they are is fine though. My issue when I reviewed the page wasn’t copyright however, it was whether the subject is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. <a href="/wiki/User:Mccapra" title="User:Mccapra">Mccapra</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Mccapra-20241023215700-Paytonisboss-20241023193500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mccapra-20241023215700-Paytonisboss-20241023193500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ermanarich-20241026113300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notability_of_Kurdistan_Islamic_Relations_Movement-20241026113300","replies":["c-Ermanarich-20241026113300-Notability_of_Kurdistan_Islamic_Relations_Movement"],"text":"Notability of Kurdistan Islamic Relations Movement","linkableTitle":"Notability of Kurdistan Islamic Relations Movement"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ermanarich-20241026113300-Notability_of_Kurdistan_Islamic_Relations_Movement"></span>I don't really get what the problem is. Sure, it's not a big party, but neither are, for example <a href="/wiki/Mieterpartei" title="Mieterpartei">Mieterpartei</a>, <a href="/wiki/Socialist_Equality_Party_(Germany)" title="Socialist Equality Party (Germany)">Socialist Equality Party (Germany)</a> or <a href="/wiki/WiR2020" title="WiR2020">WiR2020</a>. The page cites an article by Rûdaw, the largest news network in Iraqi Kurdistan, which has published numerous articles specifically about the party (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://manage.rudaw.net/sorani/search-results?keyword=%D8%A8%D8%B2%D9%88%D9%88%D8%AA%D9%86%DB%95%D9%88%DB%95%DB%8C%20%D9%BE%DB%95%DB%8C%D9%88%DB%95%D9%86%D8%AF%DB%8C%DB%8C%20%D8%A6%DB%8C%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C">proof</a>). Most examples in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)">Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)</a> are talking about companies, there aren't really specifications for what makes a party notable. But there clearly is significant coverage, the coverage is independent, there are multiple sources (even if not that many since it's a stub). So yeah, explain to me how I can convince you of the notability. - <a href="/wiki/User:Ermanarich" title="User:Ermanarich">Ermanarich</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ermanarich" title="User talk:Ermanarich">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Ermanarich-20241026113300-Notability_of_Kurdistan_Islamic_Relations_Movement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ermanarich-20241026113300-Notability_of_Kurdistan_Islamic_Relations_Movement"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026113300","author":"Ermanarich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ermanarich-20241026113300-Notability_of_Kurdistan_Islamic_Relations_Movement","replies":["c-Mccapra-20241027110800-Ermanarich-20241026113300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ermanarich-20241026113300-Notability_of_Kurdistan_Islamic_Relations_Movement"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mccapra-20241027110800-Ermanarich-20241026113300"></span>hi thanks for your message. Generally, if a party is contesting elections, the benchmark for notability is whether it has succeeded in getting anyone elected. This party won <1% of the vote so is nowhere near that. Recycled press releases saying it was founded, held a congress or elevated a leader don’t make it notable. It is possible that much wider and more extensive press coverage could make it notable, but I don’t see that at the moment. All the best <a href="/wiki/User:Mccapra" title="User:Mccapra">Mccapra</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Mccapra-20241027110800-Ermanarich-20241026113300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mccapra-20241027110800-Ermanarich-20241026113300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027110800","author":"Mccapra","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mccapra-20241027110800-Ermanarich-20241026113300","replies":["c-Ermanarich-20241027225200-Mccapra-20241027110800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mccapra-20241027110800-Ermanarich-20241026113300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ermanarich-20241027225200-Mccapra-20241027110800"></span>As I said, there are numerous articles on Wikipedia of parties that haven't got anyone elected. Furthermore, the project page on notability doesn't mention getting a candidate elected is a benchmark for notability.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ermanarich" title="User:Ermanarich">Ermanarich</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ermanarich" title="User talk:Ermanarich">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Ermanarich-20241027225200-Mccapra-20241027110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ermanarich-20241027225200-Mccapra-20241027110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027225200","author":"Ermanarich","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ermanarich-20241027225200-Mccapra-20241027110800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ermanarich-20241027225200-Mccapra-20241027110800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mccapra-20241031075300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lekia_and_Lezgistan-20241031075300","replies":["c-Mccapra-20241031075300-Lekia_and_Lezgistan"],"text":"Lekia and Lezgistan","linkableTitle":"Lekia and Lezgistan"}--><h2 id="Lekia_and_Lezgistan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lekia_and_Lezgistan-20241031075300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lekia_and_Lezgistan-20241031075300"></span><b>Lekia</b> and <a href="/wiki/Lezgistan" title="Lezgistan">Lezgistan</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lekia_and_Lezgistan-20241031075300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mccapra&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Lekia and Lezgistan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mccapra-20241031075300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lekia_and_Lezgistan-20241031075300","replies":["c-Mccapra-20241031075300-Lekia_and_Lezgistan"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DigitalSpace-20241031080500-Mccapra-20241031080300","timestamp":"20241031080500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mccapra-20241031075300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lekia_and_Lezgistan-20241031075300","replies":["c-Mccapra-20241031075300-Lekia_and_Lezgistan"],"text":"Lekia and Lezgistan","linkableTitle":"Lekia and Lezgistan"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Lezgistan" title="Lezgistan"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mccapra-20241031075300-Lekia_and_Lezgistan"></span>Lezgistan</a> is a state of one people (<a href="/wiki/Lezgins" title="Lezgins">Lezgins</a>). <b>Lekia</b> (also known as the <b>Lakz</b>, and this is a more correct name) is a state of 10 different peoples (<a href="/wiki/Aghuls" class="mw-redirect" title="Aghuls">Aghuls</a>, <a href="/wiki/Rutuls" class="mw-redirect" title="Rutuls">Rutuls</a>, <a href="/wiki/Tsakhurs" class="mw-redirect" title="Tsakhurs">Tsakhurs</a>, <a href="/wiki/Budukh_people" title="Budukh people">Budukhs</a>, <a href="/wiki/Khinalug_people" title="Khinalug people">Khinalughs</a>, <a href="/wiki/Tabasarans" class="mw-redirect" title="Tabasarans">Tabasarans</a>, etc.). Why did you delete my edit and redirect (Lekia -> Lezgistan)? </p><p>The state of Lekia (Lakz) was mainly located on the territories of modern Russia and Azerbaijan. Lezgistan (the conventional name of the Lezgin state) was located on the territory of modern Russia. In the Russian and Azerbaijani Wikipedias, there are two separate articles for these terms: ru-wikipedia: (ru-1) <a class="external text" href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Лакз">Лакз(=Лекия)/Lakz(=Lekia)</a> and (ru-2) <a class="external text" href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Лезгистан">Лезгистан/Lezgistan</a>; az-wikipedia: (az-1) <a class="external text" href="https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leq_çarlığı">Leq_çarlığı (Lakz)</a> and (az-2) <a class="external text" href="https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ləzgistan">Ləzgistan</a>) </p> <dl><dd>hi thanks for your message. I redirected the article not because I thought the two subject were the same, but because the Lekia article wasn’t properly sourced. It needs inline citations throughout, relating the sources you’ve provided to the individual statements in the article. I’m afraid it is not ready for encyclopedia mainspace without that. If you wish I can move it to draftspace so you can add inline citations and when that’s done I can re-publish it. <a href="/wiki/User:Mccapra" title="User:Mccapra">Mccapra</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Mccapra-20241031075300-Lekia_and_Lezgistan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mccapra-20241031075300-Lekia_and_Lezgistan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031075300","author":"Mccapra","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mccapra-20241031075300-Lekia_and_Lezgistan","replies":["c-DigitalSpace-20241031075800-Mccapra-20241031075300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mccapra-20241031075300-Lekia_and_Lezgistan"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DigitalSpace-20241031075800-Mccapra-20241031075300"></span>Hi! OK, please move it to draftspace. <a href="/wiki/User:DigitalSpace" title="User:DigitalSpace">DigitalSpace</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DigitalSpace" title="User talk:DigitalSpace">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-DigitalSpace-20241031075800-Mccapra-20241031075300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DigitalSpace-20241031075800-Mccapra-20241031075300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031075800","author":"DigitalSpace","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DigitalSpace-20241031075800-Mccapra-20241031075300","replies":["c-Mccapra-20241031080300-DigitalSpace-20241031075800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DigitalSpace-20241031075800-Mccapra-20241031075300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mccapra-20241031080300-DigitalSpace-20241031075800"></span>Done and there’s now a link to it from your talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Mccapra" title="User:Mccapra">Mccapra</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Mccapra-20241031080300-DigitalSpace-20241031075800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mccapra-20241031080300-DigitalSpace-20241031075800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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If you haven’t yet had a chance, there is still time to participate– we’d truly appreciate your feedback. The survey is anonymous and should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a>. </p><p>Take the survey <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/962595?lang=en">here</a></b>. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241113004100","author":"BGerdemann (WMF)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research","replies":["c-Mccapra-20241113033100-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mccapra-20241113033100-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100"></span>Thanks I responded a while ago. <a href="/wiki/User:Mccapra" title="User:Mccapra">Mccapra</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Mccapra-20241113033100-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mccapra-20241113033100-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="386" data-file-height="334"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>The article <a href="/wiki/Pilgrimage_centres_in_Ernakulam_district" class="mw-redirect" title="Pilgrimage centres in Ernakulam district">Pilgrimage centres in Ernakulam district</a> has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed for deletion</a> because of the following concern: </p> <blockquote><p><b>Only 1 item in this list is notable. Unreferenced and unimproved almost 15 years. No decent target for redirection.</b></p></blockquote> <p>While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEL#REASON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEL">deleted for any of several reasons</a>. </p><p>You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated}}</code></span> notice, but please explain why in your <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a> or on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Pilgrimage_centres_in_Ernakulam_district" title="Talk:Pilgrimage centres in Ernakulam district">the article's talk page</a>. </p><p>Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated}}</code></span> will stop the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed deletion process</a>, but other <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">deletion processes</a> exist. In particular, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">speedy deletion</a> process can result in deletion without discussion, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">articles for deletion</a> allows discussion to reach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearian" title="User:Bearian">Bearian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearian" title="User talk:Bearian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Bearian-20241118155400-Proposed_deletion_of_Pilgrimage_centres_in_Ernakulam_district" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearian-20241118155400-Proposed_deletion_of_Pilgrimage_centres_in_Ernakulam_district"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118155400","author":"Bearian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bearian-20241118155400-Proposed_deletion_of_Pilgrimage_centres_in_Ernakulam_district","replies":["c-Mccapra-20241118183900-Bearian-20241118155400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearian-20241118155400-Proposed_deletion_of_Pilgrimage_centres_in_Ernakulam_district"></span> </p> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mccapra-20241118183900-Bearian-20241118155400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bearian" title="User:Bearian">Bearian</a>:</span> thanks but not one of mine. I just deorphaned it in 2018. <a href="/wiki/User:Mccapra" title="User:Mccapra">Mccapra</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mccapra#c-Mccapra-20241118183900-Bearian-20241118155400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mccapra-20241118183900-Bearian-20241118155400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118183900","author":"Mccapra","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mccapra-20241118183900-Bearian-20241118155400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mccapra-20241118183900-Bearian-20241118155400"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002100","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002100-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"],"text":"ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message","linkableTitle":"ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"}--><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002100"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mccapra&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002100","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002100-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002100-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message","timestamp":"20241119002100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002100","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002100-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"],"text":"ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message","linkableTitle":"ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"}--></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002100-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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