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discusion del Projeto Istòria, cuà se parla de łe voxe de 'storia, pa' argomenti pì xenerałi ndare so łe <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Ci%C3%A0co%C5%82e" title="Wikipedia:Ciàcołe">ciàcołe</a></b>. </p><p><b><span id="AddNewSection_Anchor" class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Template%3AIntro"><span id="Anchor:AddNewSection_Anchor" title="Zonta na nova sesion a ła fine de ła pajina: Discussion projeto:Istòria">Struca qua par xontar na nova discusion!</span></a></span></b> <b></b> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> </div> <p><br/> </p> <center><a href="/w/index.php?title=Porta%C5%82e:Ist%C3%B2ria&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Portałe:Istòria (sta pajina no ła ghe xé)">Portałe:Istòria</a> - <a href="/wiki/Projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria" title="Projeto:Istòria">Projeto:Istòria</a> - <a href="/wiki/Categoria:Ist%C3%B2ria" class="mw-redirect" 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href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section's source code: Nome de ła pajina discusion"><span>canbia el còdaxe</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GatoSelvadego-2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nome_de_\u0142a_pajina_discusion-2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-GatoSelvadego-2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z-Nome_de_\u0142a_pajina_discusion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-GatoSelvadego-2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z-Nome_de_\u0142a_pajina_discusion","timestamp":"2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GatoSelvadego-2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nome_de_\u0142a_pajina_discusion-2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-GatoSelvadego-2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z-Nome_de_\u0142a_pajina_discusion"],"text":"Nome de \u0142a pajina discusion","linkableTitle":"Nome de \u0142a pajina discusion"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GatoSelvadego-2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z-Nome_de_ła_pajina_discusion"></span>Che nome ghe demo a sta pajina de discusion?--<a href="/wiki/Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Utensa:GatoSelvadego">GatoSelvadego</a> <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-GatoSelvadego-2011-07-27T13:42:00.000Z-Nome_de_ła_pajina_discusion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 27 luj 2011 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Novo_mod\u00e8l_Stado_st\u00f2rico-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z-Novo_mod\u00e8l_Stado_st\u00f2rico"],"text":"Novo mod\u00e8l Stado st\u00f2rico","linkableTitle":"Novo mod\u00e8l Stado st\u00f2rico"}--><h2 id="Novo_modèl_Stado_stòrico" data-mw-thread-id="h-Novo_modèl_Stado_stòrico-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z"><span id="Novo_mod.C3.A8l_Stado_st.C3.B2rico"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Novo_modèl_Stado_stòrico-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z"></span>Novo modèl Stado stòrico<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Novo_modèl_Stado_stòrico-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section's source code: Novo modèl Stado 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Novo_mod\u00e8l_Stado_st\u00f2rico-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z-Novo_mod\u00e8l_Stado_st\u00f2rico"],"text":"Novo mod\u00e8l Stado st\u00f2rico","linkableTitle":"Novo mod\u00e8l Stado st\u00f2rico"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z-Novo_modèl_Stado_stòrico"></span>Visto che jero drio darghe na sistemada a ƚa voxe Republica de Venesia a go rifato el vècio modèl <i>Stato storico</i>. Par deso go senplisemente adatà cueƚo che ghe xe so it.wiki (cueƚo che ghevimo cuà, el nostro vècio, no'l jera altro che'l vecio modèl che i doparava so it.wiki prima de axornarlo), ma intendo revixionarlo un fià (ghe xe dei parametri che no me convinse). Donca par deso che'l xe provixorio no lo meto anca so ƚe altre voxe, 'ndove che resta pa'l momento chel vècio. Co el modèl el sarà definitivo ghe pensarò mi a sistemar tute ƚe voxe che ga ncora el vècio (tanto le xe soƚo che 7-8).--<a href="/wiki/Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Utensa:GatoSelvadego">GatoSelvadego</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Discusion Utensa:GatoSelvadego">msj</a>) <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z-Novo_modèl_Stado_stòrico" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 17 oto 2017 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z-Novo_modèl_Stado_stòrico"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ciaurlec-2017-10-19T21:40:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-19T21:40:00.000Z","author":"Ciaurlec","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ciaurlec-2017-10-19T21:40:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ciaurlec-2017-10-19T21:40:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2017-10-17T15:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-aC_o_vC?-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?","c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:29:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?"],"text":"aC o vC?","linkableTitle":"aC o vC?"}--><h2 id="aC_o_vC?" data-mw-thread-id="h-aC_o_vC?-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z"><span id="aC_o_vC.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-aC_o_vC?-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z"></span>aC o vC?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-aC_o_vC?-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section's source code: aC o vC?"><span>canbia el còdaxe</span></a><span 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vC?","linkableTitle":"aC o vC?"}--></div></div></div> <p><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Risposta"><img alt="Risposta" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/10px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="10" height="10" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/15px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/20px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span><span class="modèl-rispondia">@<a href="/wiki/Utensa:Alvise_Morosin" title="Utensa:Alvise Morosin">Alvise Morosin</a>]</span></small> </p> <pre>el ga tacà spostar ƚe voxe dei ani e dei sècoƚi vanti cristo sensa 'ver prima sentìo el parer de ƚa comunidà che, par conto mio, co se fa un canbio del xenere ƚa gavarìa senpre da èsar consultà. Cosa ghi ne penseo de sto canbio? PS: cuà <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Ci%C3%A0co%C5%82e/Archivio/2011#a.C._o_v.C?" title="Wikipedia:Ciàcołe/Archivio/2011">na vecia discusion</a> so la facenda. Xonto che so'l Boerio se cata anca <i>avanti</i>, donca el pì doparà, almanco cuà in canpagna, 'vanti el sarìa na forma scursà...--<a href="/wiki/Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Utensa:GatoSelvadego">GatoSelvadego</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Discusion Utensa:GatoSelvadego">msj</a>) <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 8 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z","author":"GatoSelvadego","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?","replies":["c-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?"></span> </pre> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z"></span>Mi tegnaria pure el "vanti cristo", no go problemi co sta nova denominasion, da mì dixemo tuti "vanti" no go mai sentio dire "avanti". --- <b><a href="/wiki/Utensa:Vajotwo" title="Utensa:Vajotwo">Vajotwo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:Vajotwo" title="Discusion Utensa:Vajotwo">posta</a>)</b> <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 8 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z","author":"Vajotwo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z"></span>Mi me scuxe se no ne go parlà co ła comunità, ma me par sbajà scrivar a.C parché in vèneto "avanti" se dixe vanti (o invanti se se parla de on movimento), no go mai sentì dir avanti in vèneto e go anca vardà so dei gałepini vèneti e altri scriti in vèneto (par exenpio el "Dizsionario Xenerałe de ła Łéngua Vèneta e łe só varianti" de "Michele Brunelli", ła "GRAMADEGA VÈNETA PAR I VÈNETI" de "Mauro Trevixan", el "Dizionario VENETO-ITALIANO" de "Walter Basso" e altri gałepini anca so internet cofà "El Gałepin" sostegnù dal Consejo Rejonał del Vèneto). Par mi se dovaria canbiar el nome de ste pajine co v.C..--- <a href="/wiki/Utensa:Alvise_Morosin" title="Utensa:Alvise Morosin">Alvise Morosin</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:Alvise_Morosin" title="Discusion Utensa:Alvise Morosin">dime pur</a>) <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 8 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z","author":"Alvise Morosin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Vajotwo-2018-09-08T15:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span>Anca mi me sta ben la forma v.C., a pato parò che cualchedun el se ciape la briga de crear la pàgina <a href="/w/index.php?title=V.C.&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="V.C. (sta pajina no ła ghe xé)">v.C.</a> (cofà in talian <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/a.C." class="extiw" title="it:a.C.">it:a.C.</a>), e reindiriẑar là da onde che se scrìu. Altrimènti, el letor no'l capirà gnent de che che ol dir "v.C.". <i><b><a href="/wiki/Utensa:Tn4196" title="Utensa:Tn4196">Tn4196</a></b></i> <a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:Tn4196" title="Discusion Utensa:Tn4196">cónteme</a> <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 9 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z","author":"Tn4196","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Par cuel sta pajina "<a href="/wiki/Vanti_Cristo" title="Vanti Cristo">Vanti Cristo</a>" ła podaria farla mi, se me de el via mi fae.--- <a href="/wiki/Utensa:Alvise_Morosin" title="Utensa:Alvise Morosin">Alvise Morosin</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:Alvise_Morosin" title="Discusion Utensa:Alvise Morosin">dime pur</a>) <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 8 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z","author":"Alvise Morosin","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-Tn4196-2018-09-09T14:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span>Sì sì, fa' pura. Almancol par inviarla vìa. <i><b><a href="/wiki/Utensa:Tn4196" title="Utensa:Tn4196">Tn4196</a></b></i> <a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:Tn4196" title="Discusion Utensa:Tn4196">cónteme</a> <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 14 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z","author":"Tn4196","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:29:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Risposta"><img alt="Risposta" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/10px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="10" height="10" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/15px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/20px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span><span class="modèl-rispondia">@<a href="/wiki/Utensa:Alvise_Morosin" title="Utensa:Alvise Morosin">Alvise Morosin</a>]</span></small> </p> <pre>i galepini citai da ti i xe tuti resenti e fati da xente de ƚa piana, i pì vèci riporta tuti anca <i>avanti</i> (soratuto cueli "de mare", overo venesian e triesti). E po basta vardare calche testo so ƚa nostra wikisource...D'ogni modo so d'acordo co Tn4196, se se decide par <i>v.C.</i> sarìa mèjo far un rimando e crear ƚa voxe <i>Vanti Cristo</i>.--<a href="/wiki/Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Utensa:GatoSelvadego">GatoSelvadego</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Discusion Utensa:GatoSelvadego">msj</a>) <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:29:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 22 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:29:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-22T12:29:00.000Z","author":"GatoSelvadego","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:29:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:29:00.000Z-aC_o_vC?"></span> </pre> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:34:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","c-Tn4196-2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"],"text":"N\u00f2mi dei sovrani e dei papi","linkableTitle":"N\u00f2mi dei sovrani e dei papi"}--><h2 id="Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z"><span id="N.C3.B2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z"></span>Nòmi dei sovrani e dei papi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section's source code: Nòmi dei sovrani e dei papi"><span>canbia el còdaxe</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:34:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","c-Tn4196-2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tn4196-2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","timestamp":"2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:34:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","c-Tn4196-2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"],"text":"N\u00f2mi dei sovrani e dei papi","linkableTitle":"N\u00f2mi dei sovrani e dei papi"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"></span>Par ste categorie che no ƚe vede come tìtoƚo de ƚa voxe el clasico nòme e cognòme dirìa che se podarìa anca "venetixar" el nòme no (come che fa praticamente tute che altre wiki)? O che lo ƚasemo inte ƚa forma orixenal, ma ƚora anca pa' i re del pasà e pa' i papi (in latin!). Semo bituai a sentire de Juan Carlos de Spagna e de <i>Filippo II</i> (el fiolo de Carlo V, Philip II pa' enwiki)... sta roba no ga senso, o se fa Juan Carlos e Felipe II, o se fa Zuane Carlo e Felipo II... Xe ora de far na convension uficiale pa' ste voxe biografiche.--<a href="/wiki/Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Utensa:GatoSelvadego">GatoSelvadego</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Discusion Utensa:GatoSelvadego">msj</a>) <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 8 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z","author":"GatoSelvadego","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","replies":["c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z"></span>Par mi se gavaria da venetixar tuti i nomi de papi, re e anca de personaji storeghi no moderni; co 'l nome orixenał fra parentexi.--- <a href="/wiki/Utensa:Alvise_Morosin" title="Utensa:Alvise Morosin">Alvise Morosin</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:Alvise_Morosin" title="Discusion Utensa:Alvise Morosin">dime pur</a>) <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 8 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z","author":"Alvise Morosin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-1"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-08T14:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-1"></span>Sì, o mèjo no sò. Na òlta, almancol in Italia, se talianizea tuti i nòmi de personagi stranieri (te i manuai de scola vèci, par dir. Se no el cognòme, almancol el nòme el èra sènpre par talian), te'l XXI sècolo me sa che se uxa de pì céner el original. O me sbaje? <i><b><a href="/wiki/Utensa:Tn4196" title="Utensa:Tn4196">Tn4196</a></b></i> <a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:Tn4196" title="Discusion Utensa:Tn4196">cónteme</a> <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 14 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z","author":"Tn4196","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tn4196-2018-09-14T13:29:00.000Z-Alvise_Morosin-2018-09-08T20:34:00.000Z-1"></span> <dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:34:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Risposta"><img alt="Risposta" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/10px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="10" height="10" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/15px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/20px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span><span class="modèl-rispondia">@<a href="/wiki/Utensa:Tn4196" title="Utensa:Tn4196">Tn4196</a>]</span></small></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <pre>te dixi ben, ma mi no parlo de tuti i parsonaji foresti ma soƚo che de cueƚi cognosùi soƚo che pa'l nòme come apunto papi e re. Pa' i altri parsonaji se ghe xe un nome nostran co fonte (par dire so ƚe òpare del Sanudo ghi ne vien citai tanti de ƚa so epoca) el se dòpara cueƚo, se no se ƚasa in orixenal. Secondo mi almanco.--<a href="/wiki/Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Utensa:GatoSelvadego">GatoSelvadego</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Discusion Utensa:GatoSelvadego">msj</a>) <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:34:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 22 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:34:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-22T12:34:00.000Z","author":"GatoSelvadego","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:34:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GatoSelvadego-2018-09-22T12:34:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"></span> </pre> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tn4196-2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Risposta"><img alt="Risposta" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/10px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="10" height="10" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/15px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Gnome-edit-redo.svg/20px-Gnome-edit-redo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span><span class="modèl-rispondia">@<a href="/wiki/Utensa:GatoSelvadego" title="Utensa:GatoSelvadego">GatoSelvadego</a>]</span></small></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <pre>sì alora sì. Onde che aon la fonte acertada doperon el original. Par sovrani e papi sì, anca, l'é comuncue personalità par cui tute cuante le Wiki le adata par sè. Anca par noaltri se pòl far altretanto. --<i><b><a href="/wiki/Utensa:Tn4196" title="Utensa:Tn4196">Tn4196</a></b></i> <a href="/wiki/Discusion_Utensa:Tn4196" title="Discusion Utensa:Tn4196">cónteme</a> <a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_projeto:Ist%C3%B2ria#c-Tn4196-2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 25 set 2018 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tn4196-2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">respondi</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z","author":"Tn4196","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tn4196-2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z-N\u00f2mi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tn4196-2018-09-25T08:07:00.000Z-Nòmi_dei_sovrani_e_dei_papi"></span> </pre> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐6d555f5f66‐9jbdv Cached time: 20241202110739 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.016 seconds CPU time usage: 0.051 seconds Real time usage: 0.075 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 178/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 3750/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 670/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 9/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 0/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.003/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 636180/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 26.084 1 -total 68.66% 17.909 4 Modeło:Ping 30.15% 7.863 1 Modeło:Finestra 15.13% 3.946 1 Modeło:ZontaNovaSesion --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key vecwiki:pcache:28942:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241202110739 and revision id 594043. 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