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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/" rel="bookmark" title=" Susie Wolff makes F1 debut at Williams event">Susie Wolff makes F1 debut at Williams event</a></h2> <h3 class="subtitle">F1 pictures</h3> <div class="article-meta"> <div class="article-date">October 17, 2012 at 7:11 pm by <a rel="author" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/keithcollantine/" title="Keith Collantine">Keith Collantine</a></div> <div class="article-comments"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/#comments" class="comments-link" title="Comment on Susie Wolff makes F1 debut at Williams event">66 comments</a> </div> </div> <div class="entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/wolff-will-fw33-silv-2012-4.jpg"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/wolff-will-fw33-silv-2012-4-886x590.jpg" alt="Susie Wolff, Williams FW33, SIlverstone, 2012" title="Susie Wolff, Williams FW33, SIlverstone, 2012" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-65596"/></a></p> <p>Susie Wolff had her first run in a <a title="Williams" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/f1-teams/williams/">Williams</a> F1 car during an event for the team’s sponsors at Silverstone today.</p> <p>Wolff, who became a development driver for Williams in April, did to 50km runs in the team’s 2011 car, the FW33.</p> <p>“It was incredible to experience a Formula One car for the first time,” said Wolff. “I’ve done a lot of simulator work since I joined the team but nothing compares to the exhilaration of driving the real thing.</p> <p>“The conditions were a little tricky as it was quite damp at the beginning of the run but the track soon dried out. The team also did a fantastic job preparing me for today, giving me all the information I needed so that I was always in control.”</p> <p>During the event Williams race and test drivers <a title="Pastor Maldonado" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/pastor-maldonado/">Pastor Maldonado</a>, Bruno Senna and Valtteri Bottas drove two of the team’s earlier F1 cars.</p> <p>They included a 1982 FW08, of the type used by <a title="Keke Rosberg" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/whos-who/whos-who-r/keke-rosberg/">Keke Rosberg</a> to win the drivers’ championship that year, and an FW18, which Damon Hill won the 1996 drivers’ championship with, and which also claimed the constructors’ championship for the team.</p> <h3>Susie Wolff’s F1 debut and Williams event images</h3> <style type="text/css"> #gallery-1 { margin: auto; } #gallery-1 .gallery-item { float: left; margin-top: 10px; text-align: center; width: 33%; } #gallery-1 img { border: 2px 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Silverstone, 2012"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/wolff-will-silv-2012-208x117.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="Susie Wolff, Williams, Silverstone, 2012" title="Susie Wolff, Williams, Silverstone, 2012"/></a> </dt> <dd class="wp-caption-text gallery-caption"> Susie Wolff, Williams, Silverstone, 2012 </dd></dl><br style="clear: both"/><dl class="gallery-item"> <dt class="gallery-icon"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/senn-will-fw18-silv-2012/" title="Bruno Senna, Williams FW18, Silverstone, 2012"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/senn-will-fw18-silv-2012-208x117.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="Bruno Senna, Williams FW18, Silverstone, 2012" title="Bruno Senna, Williams FW18, Silverstone, 2012"/></a> </dt> <dd class="wp-caption-text gallery-caption"> Bruno Senna, Williams FW18, Silverstone, 2012 </dd></dl><dl class="gallery-item"> <dt class="gallery-icon"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/senn-will-fw08-silv-2012-2/" title="Bruno Senna, Williams FW08, Silverstone, 2012"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/senn-will-fw08-silv-2012-2-208x117.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="Bruno Senna, Williams FW08, Silverstone, 2012" title="Bruno Senna, Williams FW08, Silverstone, 2012"/></a> </dt> <dd class="wp-caption-text gallery-caption"> Bruno Senna, Williams FW08, Silverstone, 2012 </dd></dl><dl class="gallery-item"> <dt class="gallery-icon"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/senn-will-fw08-silv-2012-1/" title="Bruno Senna, Williams FW08, 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2012"/></a> </dt> <dd class="wp-caption-text gallery-caption"> Pastor Maldonado, Williams FW18, Silverstone, 2012 </dd></dl><dl class="gallery-item"> <dt class="gallery-icon"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/mald-will-fw18-silv-2012-3/" title="Pastor Maldonado, Williams FW18, Silverstone, 2012"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/mald-will-fw18-silv-2012-3-208x117.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="Pastor Maldonado, Williams FW18, Silverstone, 2012" title="Pastor Maldonado, Williams FW18, Silverstone, 2012"/></a> </dt> <dd class="wp-caption-text gallery-caption"> Pastor Maldonado, Williams FW18, Silverstone, 2012 </dd></dl><dl class="gallery-item"> <dt class="gallery-icon"> <a 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class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/formula-1/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">sozavele</a> (@formula-1) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083213"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 19:14</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I’m suprised Pastor and Bruno were allowed out there, knowing their crash records, especially when it comes for new parts to Bruno, in this case a different car.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083213#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083213", "1083213", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" 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Kobayashi. In races Bruno rarely makes mistakes, so that comment is a little bit nonsense.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083221#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083221", "1083221", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-formula-1 even depth-3" id="comment-1083225"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/formula-1/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/43886/69802ed8a5c22aa4a02ad2d8f2622e0e-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-43886-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/formula-1/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">sozavele</a> (@formula-1) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083225"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 19:31</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Well he does in practice, look at that record.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083225#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083225", "1083225", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="43886" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-4" id="comment-1083243"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a157d8da29ba0b79fa3b5e0a22d7d466?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Fernando Cruz said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083243"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 19:55</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I’ d like to see a statistic of that compared to every other drivers. Anyway not all crashes are driver related. Sometimes it is some mechanical failure, sometimes it is just acquaplanning.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083243#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083243", "1083243", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-obi-spa-kenobi even depth-5" id="comment-1083264"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/obi-spa-kenobi/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3250dac03ecc8b5b453491bfc52cec04?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=25&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-70104-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/obi-spa-kenobi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Obi-Spa Kenobi</a> (@obi-spa-kenobi) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083264"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 20:48</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Aquaplaning would be a driver error.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt depth-5" id="comment-1083287"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a157d8da29ba0b79fa3b5e0a22d7d466?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Fernando Cruz said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083287"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 21:57</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>No, most of aquaplanning the driver does anything wrong or different to what he did in previous laps. It happened to Alain Prost in Estoril in 1985, when Ayrton Senna won for the first time, under the rain. It happened to Bruno Senna in Silverstone in FP2 at the entry of Hangar straight, resulting in a crash very similar to the one that killed his uncle in Imola.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-nackavich even depth-4" id="comment-1083797"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/nackavich/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/34046/e4b536703efa753a907e54fa0034acff-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-34046-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/nackavich/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">nackavich</a> (@nackavich) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083797"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 15:16</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>And practice is where Vettel makes his mistakes. Practice is all about testing the car and finding the limits of that car and of the circuit. Teams would prefer to have a driver who messes up in practice searching for the limit meaning they waste time repairing a car rather than a driver who makes a stupid judgement on race day and wastes a race or throws away points.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083797#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083797", "1083797", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="34046" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment odd alt depth-3" id="comment-1083310"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fb3d2dfffe15c5778acc02e14f7403ab?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> LJ said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083310"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 23:01</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>FC – Kobayashi has only caused one crash on track this year as memory serves me. You are conveniently glossing over Schumacher who has caused a bunch and is probably second to Grosjean for causing chaos and even another world champion in Raikkonen caused one in Japan. But a lot of it can come down to luck. Hamilton kept getting into crashes frequently last season, many involving Massa. But this season he hasn’t caused any as far as I can remember, but has been the victim of a few.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083310#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083310", "1083310", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-jorgelardone even depth-4" id="comment-1083495"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jorgelardone/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/60870/df22ae868e5209d01047d33c841d8d29-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-60870-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jorgelardone/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Jorge Lardone</a> (@jorgelardone) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083495"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 6:18</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>No, that crash wasl Alonso fault, not Raikkonen.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083495#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083495", "1083495", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="60870" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-prisoner-monkeys odd alt depth-3" id="comment-1083317"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/10605/74136710624b9aafc78a7d146a908b5d-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-10605-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Prisoner Monkeys</a> (@prisoner-monkeys) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083317"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 23:10</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <blockquote><p>In races Bruno rarely makes mistakes, so that comment is a little bit nonsense.</p></blockquote> <p>You’re right – he doesn’t crash during the races.</p> <p>What he does do is waste a seat, because he’s not very good. If he wasn’t a Senna (and technically, he isn’t; he’s a Lalli), nobody would give him the time of day.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083317#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083317", "1083317", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="10605" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-guilherme even depth-4" id="comment-1083323"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/guilherme/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/60771/e1822130f42eeabe3ef8d3847689a3c0-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-60771-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/guilherme/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Guilherme</a> (@guilherme) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083323"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 23:17</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="nofollow">@prisoner-monkeys</a> What kind of logic is this? By the same token, Ayrton wasn’t a “Senna”, he was a “da Silva”. Bruno has two surnames, and he uses the one he sees fit. I don’t think there is any rule forcing drivers to use their father’s surname instead of their mother’s.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083323#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083323", "1083323", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="60771" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-5" id="comment-1083342"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4ae78e4c85843f345e04bfd1d0bd46f5?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Carlito's way said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083342"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 23:58</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Haha nice one that ought to have taught him. Always talking as if he owns the truth!!</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-leucocrystal even depth-5" id="comment-1083348"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/63219/3342016c7e9e14bde1c12fc4c94c8d48-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-63219-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eleanore</a> (@leucocrystal) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083348"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 0:11</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Exactly. And by that logic, Bruno’s mother and sisters aren’t Sennas either, which is just as ridiculous a thing to say. Going by the mother’s name is quite common in Brazil, and is the same thing that Ayrton did.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-prisoner-monkeys odd alt depth-5" id="comment-1083373"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/10605/74136710624b9aafc78a7d146a908b5d-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-10605-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Prisoner Monkeys</a> (@prisoner-monkeys) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083373"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 1:06</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/guilherme/" rel="nofollow">@guilherme</a> – Portuguese naming traditions see children use the father’s surname and then the mother’s. Bruno’s mother is Ayrton’s sister, which means he would normally adopt his father’s surname, Lalli.</p> <p>I can’t help but question whether Bruno would have made it anywhere near Formula 1 if he was known as Bruno Lalli. He has the right to use the Senna name, of course – but if he wasn’t related to Ayrton, I don’t think he would have gotten into Formula 1.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment even depth-4" id="comment-1083372"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7001758cc4a9ecc35837860b5f5044e4?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> AJ Ball said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083372"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 1:05</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>What an extraordinary comment. I must remember to tell my cousins that they aren’t related to my grandmother some time.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083372#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083372", "1083372", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-prisoner-monkeys odd alt depth-5" id="comment-1083375"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/10605/74136710624b9aafc78a7d146a908b5d-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-10605-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Prisoner Monkeys</a> (@prisoner-monkeys) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083375"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 1:10</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I didn’t say he’s not related. Just that he was born with a different name.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even depth-5" id="comment-1083733"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a157d8da29ba0b79fa3b5e0a22d7d466?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Fernando Cruz said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083733"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 13:37</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>He was born with that name – Bruno Senna Lalli. People don’t always name children according to the normal or current rules. Anyway he has two sisters who also have Senna in their names.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment odd alt depth-4" id="comment-1083628"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a157d8da29ba0b79fa3b5e0a22d7d466?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Fernando Cruz said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083628"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 10:51</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>He is good enough in races and he can still improve his qualifying. In races he can be as quick as anyone, as he proved several times this year – Malaysia, China, Monaco, Valencia, Silverstone, Hockenheim, Hungaroring, Spa, Singapura and Suzuka. He is often quicker than his team mate in races and sometimes he is consistently as quick as the front running cars.</p> <p>His main problem is the time he lost the last few years, he deserved to be in F1 in 2009 more than Damon Hill deserved to be in 1993, as he had better results in junior categories. Had he started with Brawn in 2009 he would probably have won races in his rookie year and he would surely be a much better and developed driver by now. Even so he can still become as good as a Button or a Rosberg if he has the opportunity to develop himself in F1. If not he is out but he remains a very good driver. As there are also very good drivers outside F1 just because they didn’t have any chance due to lack of money.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083628#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083628", "1083628", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-prisoner-monkeys even depth-5" id="comment-1083659"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/10605/74136710624b9aafc78a7d146a908b5d-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-10605-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Prisoner Monkeys</a> (@prisoner-monkeys) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083659"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 11:50</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>“If” doesn’t get you very far in Formula 1.</p> <p>Senna will be judged on the results he has achieved, not what might have been.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt depth-5" id="comment-1083691"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a157d8da29ba0b79fa3b5e0a22d7d466?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Fernando Cruz said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083691"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 12:27</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Stefan Bellof was one of the quickest that ever raced in a F1 car but he has only a 4th place as his best result. That is an example of many we could find to prove that drivers can’t be judged only on the results they achieved in a category, F1 in this case.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-jamesf1 even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-1083216"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jamesf1/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/35904/20b300423a329f90990d2065dc4d3afe-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-35904-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jamesf1/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">James</a> (@jamesf1) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083216"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 19:17</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Good on her for getting the chance, and taking it. Women dont get many opportunities in F1 – especially drivers, so it’s good to see representation. I also liked the tribute to Maria di Villota on her helmet.</p> <p>But that aside, you have to ask, does it not seem like she was just a token female driver today, perhaps instigated by her husbands role in the team?</p> <p>I’m sure that women will one day feature on the grid in F1, but I’d rather it was because of the what they know rather than who they know. I think that of the male drivers too, as well as the cash cows that occupy seats on the grid like: Karthykeyan, Petrov, Kobayashi to name a few (two of which have nothing left to bring to their teams). Does there need to be a female accademy to get women in to the top teir of open cockpit racing? There are many tallented women (and girls in lower formulae) who do not get the chance to prove themselves because they cannot bring enough money to the team</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083216#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083216", "1083216", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="35904" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1083226"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a2330353db2d2f2d6ca349e39050cd8e?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> DD42 said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083226"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 19:31</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Kobayashi is paid by Sauber – he earned his seat by merit and is now facing losing it, as he doesn’t have big sponsers</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083226#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083226", "1083226", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-prisoner-monkeys even depth-3" id="comment-1083313"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/10605/74136710624b9aafc78a7d146a908b5d-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-10605-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/prisoner-monkeys/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Prisoner Monkeys</a> (@prisoner-monkeys) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083313"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 23:07</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Actually, Kobayashi got his seat because Peter Sauber knew that he was a popular driver and was hoping that sponsors would want to be involved in the team because of Koabayshi’s popularity. Since he had only taken part in two races before joining Sauber, there was no merit involved.</p> <p>He is not facing the loss of his seat because he does not have sponsors. He is facing the loss of his seat because he has not been performing. Sponsors might save his seat or – if popular rumour is to be believed – help him find a seat somewhere else, but he is not losing the seat because he has no sponsors.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083313#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083313", "1083313", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="10605" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-gwenouille odd alt depth-4" id="comment-1083541"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/gwenouille/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/13066/3abbba6affad16d7f13961fb1603e308-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-13066-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/gwenouille/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">gwenouille</a> (@gwenouille) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083541"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 8:08</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>He hasn’t performed less well than Perez in my view. They share the same number of constructor points in the 2 years they’ve worked together.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083541#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083541", "1083541", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="13066" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even depth-4" id="comment-1083596"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a2330353db2d2f2d6ca349e39050cd8e?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Dd42 said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083596"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 10:06</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>@prisoner monkeys</p> <p>Ahh, thanks for the insight.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083596#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083596", "1083596", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-slr odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1083228"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/slr/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/8481/3d72b1a4e64ebab928856953b0e2347e-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-8481-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/slr/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Slr</a> (@slr) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083228"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 19:33</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <blockquote><p>Does there need to be a female accademy to get women in to the top teir of open cockpit racing?</p></blockquote> <p>I say no, there are many male drivers who can’t get near F1 because of money, or lack thereof. If there was to be something out there for drivers with little funding for their careers, then it should be for both genders.</p> <p>By the way, I don’t agree Kobayashi is a cash cow. Toyota helped fund his career prior to F1, but I’m not aware of him ever bringing money to Sauber.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083228#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083228", "1083228", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="8481" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-fer-no65 even thread-even depth-1" id="comment-1083236"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/fer-no65/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16077/a050b35abf5330b497f8845b35d9e7b8-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16077-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/fer-no65/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Fer no.65</a> (@fer-no65) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083236"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 19:42</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>DAT 1996 Williams. I’m in love…</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083236#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083236", "1083236", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16077" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-george odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1083249"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/george/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16064/21f250fa7da52c9d14cf586369acf4e7-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16064-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/george/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">George</a> (@george) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083249"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 20:05</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Yeah, that’s the classic F1 car from my childhood :D</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083249#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083249", "1083249", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16064" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> 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class="time-since">17th October 2012, 20:35</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>+1 :)</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083258#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083258", "1083258", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="57217" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-dot_com odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1083831"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/dot_com/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/44332/f17c5624ede7589a7ee02fd0eff6167b-bpthumb.jpg" 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She at least fits one part of the job description…</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083261#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083261", "1083261", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="26179" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-jerseyf1 odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1083301"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jerseyf1/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/35439/42b43f48cc0f56971224190844174a4a-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-35439-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jerseyf1/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">JerseyF1</a> (@jerseyf1) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083301"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 22:45</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I can just imagine Rob Smedley on the radio “Alright hen we need to keep the tyre temperatures up”</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083301#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083301", "1083301", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="35439" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-xivizmath even thread-even depth-1" id="comment-1083265"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/xivizmath/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/44303/bd63a8c9c4b41bfda627a496c29def3b-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-44303-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/xivizmath/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">xivizmath</a> (@xivizmath) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083265"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 20:49</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Any more shots of FW08 on the track? Looks lovely.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083265#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083265", "1083265", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="44303" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-leucocrystal odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1083298"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/63219/3342016c7e9e14bde1c12fc4c94c8d48-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-63219-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eleanore</a> (@leucocrystal) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083298"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 22:39</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>They posted a few on the Williams’ team Twitter, though they won’t be of this quality.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083298#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083298", "1083298", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="63219" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-electrolite even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-1083324"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/electrolite/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/43a90c2626e79d29cd5624cc9afb701a?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=50&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16052-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/electrolite/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Electrolite</a> (@electrolite) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083324"><span class="time-since">17th October 2012, 23:18</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I really like both Bottas’s and Wolff’s helmets.</p> <blockquote><p>The conditions were a little tricky</p></blockquote> <p>It’s the FW33…what did you expect :P</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083324#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083324", "1083324", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16052" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-meander odd alt thread-even depth-1" id="comment-1083345"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/meander/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/3264/4c4aa9b57bbeeacc79d895dd4c1d4f84-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-3264-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/meander/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Meander</a> (@meander) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083345"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 0:06</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I must say it’s a refreshing sight to see a lady posed in front of an F1 car in “real” overalls! I hope this becomes a regular occurrence in the near future. Like her helmet as well.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083345#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083345", "1083345", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="3264" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-adrianmorse even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-1083384"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/adrianmorse/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/42608/9e315accd4edc9e21efb29d305b42ab2-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-42608-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/adrianmorse/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">AdrianMorse</a> (@adrianmorse) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083384"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 1:28</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>These guys, and in this case girl, are so lucky to drive for Williams! Both the FW08 and the FW18 are amazing cars.</p> <p>Btw, in the final picture that looks like Bruno Senna and not Valtteri Bottas in the car.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083384#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083384", "1083384", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="42608" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-leucocrystal odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1084102"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/63219/3342016c7e9e14bde1c12fc4c94c8d48-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-63219-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eleanore</a> (@leucocrystal) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084102"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 2:22</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Yep, it’s definitely Bruno in the last photo.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1084102#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1084102", "1084102", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="63219" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="comment-1083399"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6487f15266471ef0637735664657c860?s=50&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D50&r=G" class="avatar avatar-50 photo" height="50" width="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083399"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 2:15</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Our family is not a fan of women racing. It doesn’t really make sense.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083399#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083399", "1083399", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1083400"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6487f15266471ef0637735664657c860?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083400"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 2:16</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Do me a favor, Keith, and don’t erase this again. We have just as much right to our opinion as those who support women drivers.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083400#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083400", "1083400", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-oblong_cheese even depth-3" id="comment-1083464"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/oblong_cheese/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/6abc09f0f82c72ef34202e758db1e55a?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=25&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-40714-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/oblong_cheese/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Oblong_Cheese</a> (@oblong_cheese) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083464"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 5:18</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>1. Sure you have a right to your opinion. What you don’t have is a right to post it on a website which is owned, run and operated by anyone else – in this case, Keith. It’s his site and if he deems it so, your comments will be deleted!<br/> 2. Perhaps he would not feel the need to delete your comments if you explained your opinion and gave it a bit of weight, instead of posting a one-liner which comes across as being extremely bigoted and sexist.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083464#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083464", "1083464", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="40714" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-4" id="comment-1084038"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d571c15d56bbe3bccab59f3742c78102?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084038"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 0:14</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>So, its not sexist to treat women like garbage and expect them to do everything that men do and deny the very facts of their biology and femininity (which is what the world does), but it IS sexist to understand that men and women are indeed different yet equal in dignity….suited for some roles which the opposite sex is not suited for?</p> <p>Strange world. No thanks. We like our guys to be men – to fight, to provide, to race cars, to do things men do. We like our women to be women – to care, to educate, to raise, and to do things women do. Men need women and women need men – we are complementary. Its built into who we are.</p> <p>If you reject that, then we will never agree.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1084038#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1084038", "1084038", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-leucocrystal even depth-5" id="comment-1084106"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/63219/3342016c7e9e14bde1c12fc4c94c8d48-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-63219-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eleanore</a> (@leucocrystal) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084106"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 2:26</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Gender roles are a culturally perpetuated myth. Women should be allowed to choose to do whatever they like to do, regardless whether or not it’s considered a “masculine” or “feminine” activity. So yes, we will never agree, and I’m certainly glad to be a woman living in a world that’s pushing against such pointless and harmful gender roles, rather than stubbornly insisting on enforcing them for no particular reason, as you’d apparently prefer.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt depth-5" id="comment-1084121"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/925b3c2a9f54d28f744b286ed5d66cae?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084121"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 2:53</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I know we won’t agree. But your generation is rapidly fading away. Folks like yourself fail to reproduce, while we are making up the difference. We’ll simply outlive you. Secularism is dead.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-leucocrystal even depth-5" id="comment-1084219"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/63219/3342016c7e9e14bde1c12fc4c94c8d48-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-63219-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eleanore</a> (@leucocrystal) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084219"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 7:12</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Wow. And I thought I’d already encountered the most backwards-thinking people on the internet already. I think you win that prize! Congratulations.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-andrewtanner odd alt depth-5" id="comment-1084366"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/andrewtanner/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/18121/aef0618ae60ed259dfe144818957e0dc-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-18121-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/andrewtanner/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">AndrewTanner</a> (@andrewtanner) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084366"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 13:36</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>What century did you post that in?</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even depth-5" id="comment-1084432"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c186d52aad255b2a693b5f57188dfecf?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084432"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 16:30</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Your insults, and lack of engagement, only confirm us in the truth.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-leucocrystal odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1083455"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/63219/3342016c7e9e14bde1c12fc4c94c8d48-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-63219-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eleanore</a> (@leucocrystal) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083455"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 4:43</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I suppose it wouldn’t “really make sense” if you look at women like some other species to men, but I’m not going to take that bait, because I’ve been annoyed enough by men on the Internet today already.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083455#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083455", "1083455", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="63219" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment even depth-3" id="comment-1084034"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d571c15d56bbe3bccab59f3742c78102?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084034"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 0:09</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Men and women are equal in dignity but not the same. Little kids understand this well. They have to be brainwashed by the secular world into thinking otherwise.</p> <p>Men and women have different roles to play, none of which is any better than any other. Men are fathers and women are mothers. But the differences do not end there. There are some jobs or positions better suited to women, and some better suited to men.</p> <p>This just happens to be the truth, no matter how unpopular.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1084034#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1084034", "1084034", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-leucocrystal odd alt depth-4" id="comment-1084108"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/63219/3342016c7e9e14bde1c12fc4c94c8d48-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-63219-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leucocrystal/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eleanore</a> (@leucocrystal) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084108"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 2:28</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Your opinion does not equal truth, by definition. Gender roles are socialized into children and taught to them by family and surrounding environment. No child is born loving pink because they’re female, or anything ridiculous like that. Don’t underestimate how early on children are taught that girls should like and do certain things, while boys should like and do others. Feminism and equality are not forms of “brainwashing”, though you can easily argue that enforced gender roles are. Do your research.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1084108#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1084108", "1084108", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="63219" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment even depth-5" id="comment-1084122"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/925b3c2a9f54d28f744b286ed5d66cae?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084122"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 2:55</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Feminism has been a failure, just like the so-called “sexual revolution” which has been an overwhelming disaster for women. </p> <p>Men and women are different, and the differences go beyond biology and brains – the differences are soul deep.</p> <p>What we have here, remarkably, is a case of you and I being completely different. I can handle it. Can you? There are people in this world who think differently than you and reject your entire notion of reality. What we believe we consider to be truth. You disagree. There is no middle ground here.</p> <p>At least we have F1 racing. With men racing the cars.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt depth-5" id="comment-1084128"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/925b3c2a9f54d28f744b286ed5d66cae?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084128"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 3:08</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Oh, and we have done our research. It points to the fact that men and women are different even down to the molecular level. Neither sex is better, they’re just different.</p> <p>And you can’t prevent that difference from emerging. The difference is soul deep.</p> <p>A man will never be a wife or a mother. A woman will never be a husband or a father. This is not subject to debate, for it is simply truth.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-dirgegirl even depth-2" id="comment-1083572"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/dirgegirl/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/53189/4c97107afadb28ddfb925d71ff5bf25d-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-53189-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/dirgegirl/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">dirgegirl</a> (@dirgegirl) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083572"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 9:13</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Wow, I’m glad I’m not part of your family. It would be awful to have a family spokesman for a start. And then the lack of reason, the narrow-mindedness…</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083572#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083572", "1083572", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="53189" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-3" id="comment-1084035"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d571c15d56bbe3bccab59f3742c78102?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084035"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 0:10</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Oh, I don’t know. I’ve yet to meet a man who made a good mother.</p> <p>If you don’t believe the sexes are different, I would gladly send you a biology book.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1084035#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1084035", "1084035", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-dot_com even depth-2" id="comment-1083833"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/dot_com/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/44332/f17c5624ede7589a7ee02fd0eff6167b-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-44332-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/dot_com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">dot_com</a> (@dot_com) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083833"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 16:09</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Was it a joint decision, or did you decide for them?</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083833#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083833", "1083833", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="44332" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-3" id="comment-1084037"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d571c15d56bbe3bccab59f3742c78102?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084037"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 0:11</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Actually, my wife pointed out the fact first. She is not a fan of women racing. She also hates women’s basketball as well. I can’t say I blame her. It is boring.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1084037#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1084037", "1084037", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-leotef even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-1083408"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leotef/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/2f50596c0ee40f16cdc050438e195b9a?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=50&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-22901-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leotef/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">leotef</a> (@leotef) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083408"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 2:36</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>So it was just cruising without any lap times? Wonder what she did…</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083408#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083408", "1083408", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="22901" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-kingshark odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1083453"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/kingshark/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/f9e31fb0020863fa7825bf4897fee62f?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=25&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-31025-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/kingshark/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Kingshark</a> (@kingshark) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083453"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 4:40</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <blockquote><p>So it was just cruising without any lap times?</p></blockquote> <p>That would only make sense if she didn’t complete the lap. Thus being, every time she was about to cross the finish line she braked, drove back in reverse the entire lap until being in front of the finish line without crossing it, then drive to the finish line again but not cross it.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083453#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083453", "1083453", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="31025" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-leotef even depth-3" id="comment-1083488"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leotef/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/2f50596c0ee40f16cdc050438e195b9a?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=25&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-22901-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/leotef/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">leotef</a> (@leotef) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1083488"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 6:08</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/kingshark/" rel="nofollow">@Kingshark</a>, Oops, ‘where is the lap time?’ was my question, ’cause I’m sort of curious of the difference btwn man and woman. BTW, thanks for elaborated explanation :p</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1083488#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1083488", "1083488", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="22901" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-kingshark odd alt depth-4" id="comment-1083619"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/kingshark/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/f9e31fb0020863fa7825bf4897fee62f?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=25&r=G" 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</p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I think that is all she has.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1084039#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1084039", "1084039", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-orrc odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1084007"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/orrc/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/e509dcb9852f237fe0412caccc335ac9?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=25&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-66830-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/orrc/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Christopher</a> (@orrc) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084007"><span class="time-since">18th October 2012, 22:52</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>With a total of four points scored in almost seven <em>seasons</em> of DTM, I’m not so convinced it’s about talent.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1084007#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1084007", "1084007", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="66830" title="Report 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F1 racing is a dangerous sport – at times a matter of life and death. We simply would rather see men, who have always been the traditional sex involved in combat and dangerous activities, be the ones to race these cars. The masculine drama – the rivalries, the death-defying risks, the “manly” behavior is simply a HUGE part of the appeal of this sport for us. </p> <p>We’re not going to apologize for wanting men to act like men and women to act like women. Don’t like it? Its a big planet.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/?replytocom=1084126#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-1084126", "1084126", "respond", "65580")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-2" id="comment-1084130"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/925b3c2a9f54d28f744b286ed5d66cae?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> I Love the Pope said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019195126/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/10/17/susie-wolff-f1-debut-williams-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1084130"><span class="time-since">19th October 2012, 3:10</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I’ll add that I believe it is sad that an American family is upholding the legacy of Western Civilization established, and yet abandoned, in Europe.</p> <p>What happened to the European Christian who conquered the world? What happened to the European man? I swear, Belloc was the last true man of Europe outside of JPII. </p> <p>What happened, Europe? 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