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href="#searchInput">Jump to search</a> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-talkpageheader"> </div><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Welcome"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Welcome</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Property_proposal"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Property proposal</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Better_class_for_Q15235563"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Better class for Q15235563</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Q63850327"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Q63850327</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Community Insights Survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Reminder: Community Insights Survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Corrupted_dates"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Corrupted dates</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Merge_"Jugendverkehrsschule"_with_"traffic_park""><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Merge "Jugendverkehrsschule" with "traffic park"</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#P2013_=_novalue,_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">P2013 = novalue, and without any qualifiers to explain why needed</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#We_sent_you_an_e-mail"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">We sent you an e-mail</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#You_did_not_"undo""><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">You did not "undo"</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#German_elections"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">German elections</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#USK"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">USK </span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#QuickStatements"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">QuickStatements</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with_the_Wikidata_community"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">[WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with the Wikidata community</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Upload_request"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Upload request</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Call_for_participation_in_the_interview_study_with_Wikidata_editors"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Call for participation in the interview study with Wikidata editors</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#software_edition_(Q92275711)_==_software_version_(Q20826013)_?"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">software edition (Q92275711) == software version (Q20826013) ?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Architectural_ensemble"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Architectural ensemble</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan's_changes"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Scripted Undo of Ericmclachlan's changes</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Meine_Bearbeitung_an_der_Seite_Q1724"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Meine Bearbeitung an der Seite Q1724</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Geocaching"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">Geocaching</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#screw_gun_(Q15807771)"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">screw gun (Q15807771)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#military_aircraft_(Q216916)_(label_question)"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">military aircraft (Q216916) (label question)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#Request"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">Request</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Q1473437"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">Q1473437</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Q6746"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">Q6746</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#Panoviewer"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">Panoviewer</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#Isn't_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment?"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">Isn't cycling equipment also sports equipment?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#Deutscher_Wetterdienst"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">Deutscher Wetterdienst</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_(Q1205299):_member_count_(P2124)"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">German Shooting and Archery Federation (Q1205299): member count (P2124)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#link_einfügen_etc"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">link einfügen etc</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_(Q2887699)"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext">Bastide de Tour sainte (Q2887699)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#TK_Development"><span class="tocnumber">34</span> <span class="toctext">TK Development</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#Sucharit_Bhakdi"><span class="tocnumber">35</span> <span class="toctext">Sucharit Bhakdi</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#Bundesverdienstkreuze"><span class="tocnumber">36</span> <span class="toctext">Bundesverdienstkreuze</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#Juristischer_Sitz_vs._Hauptverwaltung"><span class="tocnumber">37</span> <span class="toctext">Juristischer Sitz vs. Hauptverwaltung</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop"><span class="tocnumber">38</span> <span class="toctext">Invitation to participate in the WQT UI requirements elicitation online workshop</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#P31_with_legal_forms"><span class="tocnumber">39</span> <span class="toctext">P31 with legal forms</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome"></span>Welcome<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Welcome"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="welcome mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2199230769">.mw-parser-output div.welcome{border:medium solid #ccc;padding:.3em .6em}.mw-parser-output div.welcome strong{color:#285;font-size:large}</style> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="ltr"><img alt="Logo of Wikidata" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Wikidata-logo-en.svg/180px-Wikidata-logo-en.svg.png" decoding="async" width="180" height="127" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Wikidata-logo-en.svg/270px-Wikidata-logo-en.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Wikidata-logo-en.svg/360px-Wikidata-logo-en.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1052" data-file-height="744"/></span></span> <strong>Welcome to Wikidata, Nw520!</strong> </p><p>Wikidata is a free knowledge base that <b>you</b> can edit! It can be read and edited by humans and machines alike and you can go to any item page now and add to this ever-growing database! </p><p>Need some help getting started? 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Once again, welcome, and I hope you quickly feel comfortable here, and become an active editor for Wikidata. </p><p>Best regards! </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Property_proposal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property_proposal-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property_proposal-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z"></span>Property proposal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property_proposal-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Property proposal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pintoch-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z-Property_proposal"></span>Thanks a lot for your contributions! If you have time to drop by at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/accreditation" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/accreditation">Wikidata:Property proposal/accreditation</a> it would be great! − <a href="/wiki/User:Pintoch" title="User:Pintoch">Pintoch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pintoch" title="User talk:Pintoch"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Pintoch-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z-Property_proposal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 22 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pintoch-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z-Property_proposal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pintoch-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z-Property_proposal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naseweis520-2018-07-22T20:47:00.000Z-Pintoch-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for your reminder. I kind of overlooked the notification. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Naseweis520&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Naseweis520 (page does not exist)">Naseweis520</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naseweis520" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Naseweis520"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Naseweis520-2018-07-22T20:47:00.000Z-Pintoch-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 22 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naseweis520-2018-07-22T20:47:00.000Z-Pintoch-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naseweis520-2018-07-22T20:47:00.000Z-Pintoch-2018-07-22T14:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Better_class_for_Q15235563" data-mw-thread-id="h-Better_class_for_Q15235563-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Better_class_for_Q15235563-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z"></span>Better class for Q15235563<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Better_class_for_Q15235563-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Better class for Q15235563"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z-Better_class_for_Q15235563"></span>Hi, </p><p>I see that you added <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small dir="ltr">(P279)</small></a> = <a href="/wiki/Q618123" title="Q618123">geographical feature <small>(Q618123)</small></a> on <a href="/wiki/Q15235563" title="Q15235563">Löschbezirk <small>(Q15235563)</small></a> but that seems a bit too general. Could you find a more specific value? (maybe <a href="/wiki/Q264441" title="Q264441">Bezirk <small>(Q264441)</small></a> would be more appropriate for instance but I'm not familiar with this concept). It's also a bit strange to have both <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small dir="ltr">(P279)</small></a>, usually we choose one of the two, not both (but that's a lesser problem). </p><p>Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-VIGNERON-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z-Better_class_for_Q15235563" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 20 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z-Better_class_for_Q15235563"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z-Better_class_for_Q15235563"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2019-02-22T17:48:00.000Z-VIGNERON-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a>,</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I know that <span class="statement"><b class="subject"><a href="/wiki/Q15235563" title="Q15235563">Löschbezirk <small>(Q15235563)</small></a></b><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small>(P279)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q618123" title="Q618123">geographical feature <small>(Q618123)</small></a></span></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2202089130">.mw-parser-output .statement{margin:0 .2em;background:var(--background-color-base,#fff);color:var(--color-base,#202122);border:1px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1)}.mw-parser-output .statement .subject{padding:0 .2em}.mw-parser-output .statement .predicate{background:var(--background-color-neutral,#eaecf0);color:var(--color-emphasized,#000);padding:0 .2em}.mw-parser-output .statement .object{padding:0 .2em}</style> is a rather general statement. However, I'm not that familiar with the depicted conecpt and thought that having a general statement is better than having none at all. I changed <a href="/wiki/Q618123" title="Q618123">geographical feature <small>(Q618123)</small></a> to <a href="/wiki/Q4057633" title="Q4057633">hierarchy of administrative territorial entities <small>(Q4057633)</small></a> but I'm not 100% sure if it really fits.</dd> <dd>Also, I don't agree that using both <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small dir="ltr">(P279)</small></a> is that unusual. I noticed quite some amount of entities having both (<a href="/wiki/Q7275" title="Q7275">example</a>). --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2019-02-22T17:48:00.000Z-VIGNERON-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 22 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2019-02-22T17:48:00.000Z-VIGNERON-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2019-02-22T17:48:00.000Z-VIGNERON-2019-02-20T18:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2019-02-22T19:41:00.000Z-Nw520-2019-02-22T17:48:00.000Z"></span>True, that was better than nothing and if you're not sure about a more precise value, maybe we can go back to the more general one.</dd> <dd>And also true, having both <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small dir="ltr">(P279)</small></a> is not that unusual but it's not ideal either.</dd> <dd>Anyway, thanks for you help already.</dd> <dd>Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-VIGNERON-2019-02-22T19:41:00.000Z-Nw520-2019-02-22T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 22 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2019-02-22T19:41:00.000Z-Nw520-2019-02-22T17:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2019-02-22T19:41:00.000Z-Nw520-2019-02-22T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Q63850327" data-mw-thread-id="h-Q63850327-2019-08-14T12:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Q63850327-2019-08-14T12:04:00.000Z"></span>Q63850327<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Q63850327-2019-08-14T12:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Q63850327"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Q63850327" class="mw-redirect" title="Q63850327"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taylor_49-2019-08-14T12:04:00.000Z-Q63850327"></span>Q63850327</a> ... could you please add an English description too? 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The purpose of this survey is to learn how well the Foundation is supporting your work on wiki and how we can change or improve things in the future. The opinions you share will directly affect the current and future work of the Wikimedia Foundation. </p><p>Please take 15 to 25 minutes to <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0pSrrkJAKVRXPpj?Target=CI2019List(wikidata,act5)">give your feedback through this survey</a></b>. It is available in various languages. </p><p>This survey is hosted by a third-party and <a class="external text" href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights_2019_Survey_Privacy_Statement">governed by this privacy statement</a> (in English). </p><p>Find <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Frequent_questions" class="extiw" title="m:Community Insights/Frequent questions">more information about this project</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="mailto:surveys@wikimedia.org">Email us</a> if you have any questions, or if you don't want to receive future messages about taking this survey. </p><p>Sincerely, </p> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RMaung_(WMF)" title="User:RMaung (WMF)">RMaung (WMF)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T17:37:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 10 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T17:37:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T17:37:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T19:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T19:53:00.000Z"></span>Reminder: Community Insights Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T19:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Reminder: Community Insights Survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T19:53:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"></span>Share your experience in this survey</b> </p><p>Hi Nw520, </p><p>A couple of weeks ago, we invited you to take the Community Insights Survey. It is the Wikimedia Foundation’s annual survey of our global communities. We want to learn how well we support your work on wiki. We are 10% towards our goal for participation. If you have not already taken the survey, you can help us reach our goal! <b>Your voice matters to us.</b> </p><p>Please take 15 to 25 minutes to <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0pSrrkJAKVRXPpj?Target=CI2019List(wikidata,act5)">give your feedback through this survey</a></b>. It is available in various languages. </p><p>This survey is hosted by a third-party and <a class="external text" href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights_2019_Survey_Privacy_Statement">governed by this privacy statement</a> (in English). </p><p>Find <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Frequent_questions" class="extiw" title="m:Community Insights/Frequent questions">more information about this project</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="mailto:surveys@wikimedia.org">Email us</a> if you have any questions, or if you don't want to receive future messages about taking this survey. </p><p>Sincerely, </p> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RMaung_(WMF)" title="User:RMaung (WMF)">RMaung (WMF)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T19:53:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 20 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T19:53:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T19:53:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Corrupted_dates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Corrupted_dates-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Corrupted_dates-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z"></span>Corrupted dates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Corrupted_dates-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Corrupted dates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z-Corrupted_dates"></span>Hello, <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9798&type=revision&diff=907445631&oldid=907445598">this date</a> has invalid format. Could you fix this and other corrupted dates? — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z-Corrupted_dates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z-Corrupted_dates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z-Corrupted_dates"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-01-20T18:20:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">Ivan A. Krestinin</a>, thanks for informing me. I've just corrected all items with <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P166" title="Property:P166">award received <small>(P166)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q48757486" title="Q48757486">Instrument of the Year <small>(Q48757486)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130">. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-01-20T18:20:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 20 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-01-20T18:20:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-01-20T18:20:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T15:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T19:00:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-01-20T18:20:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T19:00:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-01-20T18:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T19:00:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-01-20T18:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2020-01-20T19:00:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-01-20T18:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merge_"Jugendverkehrsschule"_with_"traffic_park"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge_"Jugendverkehrsschule"_with_"traffic_park"-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z"><span id="Merge_.22Jugendverkehrsschule.22_with_.22traffic_park.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge_"Jugendverkehrsschule"_with_"traffic_park"-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z"></span>Merge "Jugendverkehrsschule" with "traffic park"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge_"Jugendverkehrsschule"_with_"traffic_park"-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Merge "Jugendverkehrsschule" with "traffic park""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SupapleX-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z-Merge_"Jugendverkehrsschule"_with_"traffic_park""></span>Hey, in 2018 you created <a href="/wiki/Q15821982" title="Q15821982">Q15821982</a> (Jugendverkehrsschule) but there was already an object "traffic park" (<a href="/wiki/Q3490443" title="Q3490443">Q3490443</a>). Could you have a look on this objects and merge them? I tried for myself but I'm not familiar with wikidata... Thanks! --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SupapleX&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SupapleX (page does not exist)">SupapleX</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SupapleX&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:SupapleX (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-SupapleX-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z-Merge_"Jugendverkehrsschule"_with_"traffic_park"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 5 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SupapleX-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z-Merge_"Jugendverkehrsschule"_with_"traffic_park""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SupapleX-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z-Merge_"Jugendverkehrsschule"_with_"traffic_park""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-05-05T19:26:00.000Z-SupapleX-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SupapleX&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SupapleX (page does not exist)">SupapleX</a>,</dd> <dd>I'd like to highlight that Q15821982 <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/112118640" title="Special:PermanentLink/112118640">was actually created by a bot</a> since there has been an unlinked Wikipedia article. Though you are right, in 2018 I already noticed that there was also an item on traffic parks and decided against merging. I think that there's a slight difference between <i>"Jugendverkehrsschulen"</i> (literally <i>youth traffic schools</i>) and <i>traffic parks</i> as <i>"Jugendverkehrsschulen"</i> are the institutions that teach children how to ride their bicycle while <i>traffic parks</i> are the - I'm copying the description from OSM - <i>scaled down streets that may be used for traffic safety education or as a type of a playground</i>. So personally I won't perform the merge since I think that those two items don't exactly describe the same thing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-05-05T19:26:00.000Z-SupapleX-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 5 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-05-05T19:26:00.000Z-SupapleX-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-05-05T19:26:00.000Z-SupapleX-2020-05-05T19:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SupapleX-2020-05-09T11:50:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-05-05T19:26:00.000Z"></span>Alles klar, kein Problem. Ich kam darauf, weil ich Interwiki-Links/Sprachverknüpfungen zwischen <a class="external text" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugendverkehrsschule">DE:Jugendverkehrsschule</a> und dem <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_park">EN:Traffic park</a>-Artikelraum herstellen wollte. Nach deiner Logik würdest du dann wahrscheinlich auch darauf verzichten? Vielleicht lässt sich das Problem umgehen, in dem es eine Seite "Verkehrsgarten" gibt, die in das traffic-park-Datenobjekt eingegliedert wird und dann auf die Jugendverkehrsschule weiterleitet... (Da ich leider in den letzten Jahren nur wenig in Wikipedia aktiv war, fehlt mir gerade das Wissen und die Routine, das zu tun bzw. das Wissen, wie/ob man einen Sprachlink auch auf andere Weise herstellen kann als über das Wikidata-Objekt...) --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SupapleX&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SupapleX (page does not exist)">SupapleX</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SupapleX&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:SupapleX (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-SupapleX-2020-05-09T11:50:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-05-05T19:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 9 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SupapleX-2020-05-09T11:50:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-05-05T19:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SupapleX-2020-05-09T11:50:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-05-05T19:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-05-09T12:22:00.000Z-SupapleX-2020-05-09T11:50:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SupapleX&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SupapleX (page does not exist)">SupapleX</a>, die Auslegung der beiden Datenobjekte ist natürlich nur meine Interpretation. Falls du meinst, dass eine solche Unterscheidung nicht notwendig ist, kann man die Diskussion auch ins <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Forum" title="Wikidata:Forum">Forum</a> verschieben, um weitere Meinungen einzuholen. Datenobjekte mit Weiterleitungen in der WP zu verknüpfen ist leider derzeit <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564" class="extiw" title="phab:T54564">"nicht"</a> (=nur mit Tricks) möglich. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Verkehrsgarten" class="extiw" title="w:de:Verkehrsgarten">Verkehrsgarten</a> ist in der deWP bereits als Weiterleitung erstellt - die Vorlage <i>Wikidata-Weiterleitung</i> habe ich gerade eingesetzt. Zum Verknüpfen müsste man die Weiterleitung aus dem Artikel rausnehmen, dann verknüpfen, dann die Weiterleitung wieder reinmachen. Ich bin kein WP-Beitragender, daher weiß ich nicht wie die WP-Community zu soetwas steht. Sprachlinks jenseits von WD-Datenobjekten sind nicht mehr im Einsatz. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-05-09T12:22:00.000Z-SupapleX-2020-05-09T11:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 9 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-05-09T12:22:00.000Z-SupapleX-2020-05-09T11:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-05-09T12:22:00.000Z-SupapleX-2020-05-09T11:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="P2013_=_novalue,_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed" data-mw-thread-id="h-P2013_=_novalue,_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z"><span id="P2013_.3D_novalue.2C_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-P2013_=_novalue,_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P2013" title="Property:P2013">P2013</a> = novalue, and without any qualifiers to explain why needed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-P2013_=_novalue,_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: P2013 = novalue, and without any qualifiers to explain why needed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q13520818&oldid=1125042516"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liuxinyu970226-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z-P2013_=_novalue,_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed"></span>e.g. here</a>, I wonder why do you think adding such an unsourced novalue is needed (at the very least, this isn't <a href="/wiki/Property:P17" title="Property:P17">country <small dir="ltr">(P17)</small></a> to which at least novalue is forced for every Antarctica related items per <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:ATA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:ATA">WD:ATA</a>), every properties' values can be by default novalue just if you don't add them, and manually add too many novalue properties can eventually be considered as abuses. --<a href="/wiki/User:Liuxinyu970226" title="User:Liuxinyu970226">Liuxinyu970226</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liuxinyu970226" title="User talk:Liuxinyu970226"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Liuxinyu970226-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z-P2013_=_novalue,_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 4 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liuxinyu970226-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z-P2013_=_novalue,_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liuxinyu970226-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z-P2013_=_novalue,_and_without_any_qualifiers_to_explain_why_needed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-08-04T11:21:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Liuxinyu970226" title="User:Liuxinyu970226">Liuxinyu970226</a></dd> <dd>> I wonder why do you think adding such an unsourced novalue</dd> <dd>I've just added a source: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://magnusmanske.de/">"No Farcebook, though. I hate Farcebook."</a></dd> <dd>> every properties' values can be by default novalue</dd> <dd>I doubt that. Most properties' values could be by default <i>somevalue</i> but according to my understanding not necessarily <i>novalue</i> since <a href="/wiki/Help:Statements#Unknown_or_no_values" title="Help:Statements">novalue</a> is a stronger statement than somevalue and makes a claim that an information is not just unknown but actually non-existent.</dd> <dd>> can eventually be considered as abuses</dd> <dd>I'm not sure why you felt the need to stress that. To me that statement felt quite reproachful. Personally, I would prefer you to be a little less confrontational in your first contact with an user. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-08-04T11:21:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 4 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-08-04T11:21:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-08-04T11:21:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2020-08-04T01:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="We_sent_you_an_e-mail" data-mw-thread-id="h-We_sent_you_an_e-mail-2020-09-25T18:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-We_sent_you_an_e-mail-2020-09-25T18:46:00.000Z"></span>We sent you an e-mail<span data-mw-comment-end="h-We_sent_you_an_e-mail-2020-09-25T18:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: We sent you an e-mail"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-09-25T18:46:00.000Z-We_sent_you_an_e-mail"></span>Hello Nw520, </p><p>Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email surveys@wikimedia.org. </p><p>You can <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/20479077" class="extiw" title="m:Special:Diff/20479077">see my explanation here</a>. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-09-25T18:46:00.000Z-We_sent_you_an_e-mail" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-09-25T18:46:00.000Z-We_sent_you_an_e-mail"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-09-25T18:46:00.000Z-We_sent_you_an_e-mail"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="You_did_not_"undo"" data-mw-thread-id="h-You_did_not_"undo"-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z"><span id="You_did_not_.22undo.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-You_did_not_"undo"-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z"></span>You did not "undo"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-You_did_not_"undo"-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: You did not "undo""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GerardM-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z-You_did_not_"undo""></span>You claim you undid one of my edits... You did not. The award existed twice. Thanks, 20:00, 3 October 2020 (UTC) <small> – <bdi lang="en"><i>The preceding <a href="/wiki/Q4663253" title="Q4663253">unsigned</a> comment was added by</i> <bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/User:GerardM" title="User:GerardM">GerardM</a></bdi> (<bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GerardM" title="User talk:GerardM">talk</a></bdi> • <bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GerardM" title="Special:Contributions/GerardM">contribs</a></bdi>) at <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-GerardM-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z-You_did_not_"undo"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 3 October 2020 (UTC)</a>.</bdi></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GerardM-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z-You_did_not_"undo""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GerardM-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z-You_did_not_"undo""></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:GerardM" title="User:GerardM"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-10-03T20:34:00.000Z-GerardM-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z"></span>GerardM</a> I suppose you're talking about <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1286064881" title="Special:Diff/1286064881">1286064881</a>. What do you mean by "The award existed twice"? If I'm not mistaken, <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q101181&oldid=156714185#P166">before your edit</a> there already was the statement <span class="statement"><b class="subject"><a href="/wiki/Q101181" title="Q101181">Friedel Grützmacher <small>(Q101181)</small></a></b><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P166" title="Property:P166">award received <small>(P166)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q10905334" title="Q10905334">Officer's Cross of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany <small>(Q10905334)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130">, then <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q101181&oldid=1268658244#P166">you've added the same one again</a> (although that award is only rewarded once per person) which <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q101181&oldid=1286064881#P166">I have reverted</a> not only for this item but for well more than a thousand. Honestly, I don't really see the issue — could you please point it out more clearly.<br/></dd> <dd>"You did not": I can hardly revert something using the revert function without making changes. And looking at the <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1286064881" title="Special:Diff/1286064881">diff of 1286064881</a> and the change in file size which I've reduced by 415 bytes I'd claim that I in fact did undo one of your edits. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-10-03T20:34:00.000Z-GerardM-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-10-03T20:34:00.000Z-GerardM-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-10-03T20:34:00.000Z-GerardM-2020-10-03T20:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GerardM-2020-10-04T05:17:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-10-03T20:34:00.000Z"></span>Technically you are wrong. It was a duplicate of the same award. Given that awards are not added individually but most often as part of a batch job, the duplicate is not noticed. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:GerardM" title="User:GerardM">GerardM</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GerardM" title="User talk:GerardM"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-GerardM-2020-10-04T05:17:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-10-03T20:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:17, 4 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GerardM-2020-10-04T05:17:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-10-03T20:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GerardM-2020-10-04T05:17:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-10-03T20:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:GerardM" title="User:GerardM"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-10-04T11:04:00.000Z-GerardM-2020-10-04T05:17:00.000Z"></span>GerardM</a> I cannot understand in which way I'm supposed be "technically" wrong. I have reverted your change so that what you've added was removed by me, nothing more and nothing less. Removing that duplicate claim means in my interpretation that the subject received the award only once rather than twice so of course semantics are changed to. And I can't understand why it should be relevant that your changes were part of a batch job. Of course, duplicate claims (which yield no more information than other already existing statements) are noticeable, for example in SPARQL-queries, and of course duplicate claims in batch jobs can be avoided by pre-filtering and checking the changes, or at least be undone as quickly as possible to actively prevent them from being "not noticed"; this of course applies to WiDaR too.</dd> <dd>This one manual reversal was only to inform you of my systematic edits so if you have no criticism on the actual result of my reversal of more than 1000 of changes or in other words have no interest in having the duplicate award readded, I see no need to discuss the matter further. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-10-04T11:04:00.000Z-GerardM-2020-10-04T05:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 4 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-10-04T11:04:00.000Z-GerardM-2020-10-04T05:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-10-04T11:04:00.000Z-GerardM-2020-10-04T05:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="German_elections" data-mw-thread-id="h-German_elections-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-German_elections-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z"></span>German elections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-German_elections-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: German elections"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z-German_elections"></span>Hi! </p><p>I contact you because you are the one listed as participant in the project on German elections. I have a spreadsheet with data on local (municipal) elections in some 75 German municipalities from 1970s to 2014. The data was compiled by a University Professor, who shared it with me, wishing it to be uploaded – if relevant – to Wikidata. </p><p>Would you have any interest in such a spreadsheet? If not, do you know someone who would? <a href="/wiki/User:Eric_Luth_(WMSE)" title="User:Eric Luth (WMSE)">Eric Luth (WMSE)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eric_Luth_(WMSE)" title="User talk:Eric Luth (WMSE)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z-German_elections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 26 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z-German_elections"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z-German_elections"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-10-27T18:05:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Eric_Luth_(WMSE)" title="User:Eric Luth (WMSE)">Eric Luth (WMSE)</a>, thank you for contacting me. I'm certainly interested in having this data added to Wikidata but depending on what that dataset contains am not sure how difficult it would be to find a good way to model that data. Could you please elaborate what information that spreadsheet contains? Does it list results of parties, of candidates or other statistics? My main concern is whether and to what extend new items would have to created since especially for persons I'm not if they are notable enough.</dd> <dd>I think it would also be a good idea to ask in the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Forum" title="Wikidata:Forum">Forum</a> whether there are more German-speaking people interested — if you want I can add a topic there. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-10-27T18:05:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 27 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-10-27T18:05:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-10-27T18:05:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-26T14:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-28T07:30:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-10-27T18:05:00.000Z"></span>Nw520</a> Thanks for your reply! It would of course be ok with a topic on the forum. The dataset does not contain the individual elected candidates, but is a list of the population size, number of eligible to vote, what parties that took part, how many valid votes they got in numbers and percent, and how many seats that rendered, per municipality and year (for all elections starting in 1979 and up until 2014), for, if I counted correctly, 77 of the largest German municipalities. <a href="/wiki/User:Eric_Luth_(WMSE)" title="User:Eric Luth (WMSE)">Eric Luth (WMSE)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eric_Luth_(WMSE)" title="User talk:Eric Luth (WMSE)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-28T07:30:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-10-27T18:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 28 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-28T07:30:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-10-27T18:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-28T07:30:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-10-27T18:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:28:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-28T07:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Eric_Luth_(WMSE)" title="User:Eric Luth (WMSE)"><bdi>Eric Luth (WMSE)</bdi></a>: The thread in the forum unfortunately didn't receive any replies. Could you maybe send me the spreadsheet so that I can have a closer look at it and, if possible, import its data? --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:28:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-28T07:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:28:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-28T07:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:28:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-10-28T07:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-12-16T12:43:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520"><bdi>Nw520</bdi></a>: I can! Can I send it to you via the email function here? <a href="/wiki/User:Eric_Luth_(WMSE)" title="User:Eric Luth (WMSE)">Eric Luth (WMSE)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eric_Luth_(WMSE)" title="User talk:Eric Luth (WMSE)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-12-16T12:43:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 16 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-12-16T12:43:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-12-16T12:43:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-12-16T12:49:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-12-16T12:43:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Eric_Luth_(WMSE)" title="User:Eric Luth (WMSE)"><bdi>Eric Luth (WMSE)</bdi></a>: Yes, sure. :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-12-16T12:49:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-12-16T12:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-12-16T12:49:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-12-16T12:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-12-16T12:49:00.000Z-Eric_Luth_(WMSE)-2020-12-16T12:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="USK" data-mw-thread-id="h-USK-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-USK-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z"></span>USK <span data-mw-comment-end="h-USK-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: USK "><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trade-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z-USK"></span>Hi! When adding USK classifications to items would you kindly add the platform qualifier after the start time qualifier?--<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trade" title="User talk:Trade"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Trade-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z-USK" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 31 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trade-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z-USK"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trade-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z-USK"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-10-31T21:21:00.000Z-Trade-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a>, sure, for new claims I'll use the order <a href="/wiki/Property:P2676" title="Property:P2676">rating certificate ID <small dir="ltr">(P2676)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P580" title="Property:P580">start time <small dir="ltr">(P580)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P400" title="Property:P400">platform <small dir="ltr">(P400)</small></a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-10-31T21:21:00.000Z-Trade-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-10-31T21:21:00.000Z-Trade-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-10-31T21:21:00.000Z-Trade-2020-10-31T21:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="QuickStatements" data-mw-thread-id="h-QuickStatements-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-QuickStatements-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z"></span>QuickStatements<span data-mw-comment-end="h-QuickStatements-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: QuickStatements"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trade-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z-QuickStatements"></span>Hey, i messed up with my last QS. Mind giving me a helping hand? --<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trade" title="User talk:Trade"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Trade-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z-QuickStatements" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:43, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trade-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z-QuickStatements"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trade-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z-QuickStatements"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:30:00.000Z-Trade-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade"><bdi>Trade</bdi></a>:, please excuse my late reply. I'm not sure whether I have sufficient skill for helping you but I'd certainly like to try. Could you please tell me what exactly happened? --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:30:00.000Z-Trade-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:30:00.000Z-Trade-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T15:30:00.000Z-Trade-2020-12-14T11:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trade-2020-12-14T16:02:00.000Z-QuickStatements"></span>I need all instances of <a href="/wiki/Q4765080" title="Q4765080">animated sitcom <small>(Q4765080)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/Property:P156" title="Property:P156">followed by <small dir="ltr">(P156)</small></a> moved to <a href="/wiki/Property:P136" title="Property:P136">genre <small dir="ltr">(P136)</small></a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trade" title="User talk:Trade"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Trade-2020-12-14T16:02:00.000Z-QuickStatements" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trade-2020-12-14T16:02:00.000Z-QuickStatements"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trade-2020-12-14T16:02:00.000Z-QuickStatements"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:14:00.000Z-QuickStatements"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade"><bdi>Trade</bdi></a>: I'm counting 371 statements which need to be migrated all of which have no qualifiers or sources. Does the number roughly fit? To summarize I'd change a statement from</dd> <dd><div class="statementplus" style="" dir="ltr"></div></dd></dl></dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2273692885">.mw-parser-output .statementplus{width:80%}.mw-parser-output .statementplus>table{width:100%;border:1px solid #c8ccd1;border:1px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1);border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0;background-color:white;background-color:var(--background-color-base,#fff)}.mw-parser-output .statementplus-showtables>table{border-color:black;border-width:2px}.mw-parser-output .statementplus-property{vertical-align:top;padding-top:.8em;background-color:#eaecf0;background-color:var(--background-color-neutral,#eaecf0);width:20%}.mw-parser-output .statementplus[dir="ltr"] .statementplus-property{padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .statementplus[dir="rtl"] .statementplus-property{padding-right:1em}.mw-parser-output .statementplus-doc{vertical-align:top;padding:.8em 1em 0}.mw-parser-output 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data-file-height="20"/></span></span></td> <td class="statementplus-mainsnak"><a href="/wiki/Q4765080" title="Q4765080">animated sitcom</a></td> <td class="statementplus-editlink"><span>edit</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-72165"> <div class="statementplus-references-toggle mw-customtoggle-72165">0 references</div> <div class="mw-collapsible-content"><div class="statementplus-addreference">add reference</div> </div></div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr class="statementplus-addtoolbar"> <td> </td> <td class="statementplus-addtoolbar-tool">add value </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><dl><dd>to</dd> <dd><div class="statementplus" style="" dir="ltr"></div></dd></dl></dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2273692885"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2080812426"><div class="navbar plainlinks hlist navbar-mini"><ul><li class="nv-view"><a href="/wiki/Template:Statement%2B" title="Template:Statement+"><abbr title="View this template">v</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-talk"><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Statement%2B" title="Template talk:Statement+"><abbr title="Discuss this template">t</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-edit"><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Statement%2B&action=edit"><abbr title="Edit this template">e</abbr></a></li></ul></div> <table> <tbody><tr> <td class="statementplus-property" rowspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Property:P136" title="Property:P136">genre</a> </td> <td colspan="2"><table dir="ltr" class="statementplus-value"> <tbody><tr> <td class="statementplus-rank"><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Normal rank"><img alt="Normal rank" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/8px-Normal_rank.svg.png" decoding="async" width="8" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/12px-Normal_rank.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/16px-Normal_rank.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="8" data-file-height="20"/></span></span></td> <td class="statementplus-mainsnak"><a href="/wiki/Q4765080" title="Q4765080">animated sitcom</a></td> <td class="statementplus-editlink"><span>edit</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-800249"> <div class="statementplus-references-toggle mw-customtoggle-800249">0 references</div> <div class="mw-collapsible-content"><div class="statementplus-addreference">add reference</div> </div></div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr class="statementplus-addtoolbar"> <td> </td> <td class="statementplus-addtoolbar-tool">add value </td></tr></tbody></table><p> --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:14:00.000Z-QuickStatements" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:14:00.000Z-QuickStatements"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:14:00.000Z-QuickStatements"></span> </p><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:22:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:14:00.000Z"></span>Now 367 statements since 4 were duplicates which I have already deleted. I'll start the QS-batch as soon as you've given me your okay. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:22:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:22:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:22:00.000Z-Nw520-2020-12-14T16:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with_the_Wikidata_community" data-mw-thread-id="h-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with-2021-02-21T14:33:00.000Z"><span id=".5BWMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats.5D_Meetings_with_the_Wikidata_community"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with-2021-02-21T14:33:00.000Z"></span>[WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with the Wikidata community<span data-mw-comment-end="h-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with-2021-02-21T14:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: [WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with the Wikidata community"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KCVelaga_(WMF)-2021-02-21T14:33:00.000Z-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with"></span>The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is organizing a call for feedback about community selection processes between February 1 and March 14. While the Wikimedia Foundation and the movement have grown about five times in the past ten years, the Board’s structure and processes have remained basically the same. As the Board is designed today, we have a problem of capacity, performance, and lack of representation of the movement’s diversity. Our current processes to select individual volunteer and affiliate seats have some limitations. Direct elections tend to favor candidates from the leading language communities, regardless of how relevant their skills and experience might be in serving as a Board member, or contributing to the ability of the Board to perform its specific responsibilities. It is also a fact that the current processes have favored volunteers from North America and Western Europe. In the upcoming months, we need to renew three community seats and appoint three more community members in the new seats. This call for feedback is to see what processes can we all collaboratively design to promote and choose candidates that represent our movement and are prepared with the experience, skills, and insight to perform as trustees? </p><p>In this regard, two rounds of feedback meetings are being hosted to collect feedback from the Wikidata community. Two rounds are being hosted with the same agenda, to accomodate people from various time zones across the globe. We will be discussing ideas proposed by the Board and the community to address the above mentioned problems. Please sign-up according to whatever is most comfortable to you. You are welcome to participate in both as well! </p> <ul><li>Round 1 - Feb 24, 4:00 pm UTC</li> <li>Round 2 - Mar 3, 4:00 am UTC</li> <li>Sign-up and meeting details: <i><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_of_Trustees/Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats/Conversations/Wikidata" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees/Call for feedback: Community Board seats/Conversations/Wikidata">Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees/Call for feedback: Community Board seats/Conversations/Wikidata</a></i></li></ul> <p>Also, please share this with other volunteers who might be interested in this. Let me know if you have any questions. <a href="/wiki/User:KCVelaga_(WMF)" title="User:KCVelaga (WMF)">KCVelaga (WMF)</a>, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-KCVelaga_(WMF)-2021-02-21T14:33:00.000Z-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KCVelaga_(WMF)-2021-02-21T14:33:00.000Z-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KCVelaga_(WMF)-2021-02-21T14:33:00.000Z-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Upload_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Upload_request-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Upload_request-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z"></span>Upload request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Upload_request-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Upload request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z-Upload_request"></span>Hello. </p><p>Can you upload the newly created Dutch language article <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbeidzjaanse_Wikipedia" class="extiw" title="nl:Azerbeidzjaanse Wikipedia">nl:Azerbeidzjaanse Wikipedia</a> in <a href="/wiki/Q58251" title="Q58251">Q58251</a>, which I cannot do, because it is semi-protected. </p><p>Thank you in advance. </p><p>Yours sincerely, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/31.200.20.163" title="Special:Contributions/31.200.20.163">31.200.20.163</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z-Upload_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z-Upload_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z-Upload_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2021-07-07T22:49:00.000Z-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Added to <a href="/wiki/Q58251" title="Q58251">Azerbaijani Wikipedia <small>(Q58251)</small></a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2021-07-07T22:49:00.000Z-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 7 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2021-07-07T22:49:00.000Z-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2021-07-07T22:49:00.000Z-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:50:00.000Z-Nw520-2021-07-07T22:49:00.000Z"></span>Thank you very much. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/31.200.20.163" title="Special:Contributions/31.200.20.163">31.200.20.163</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:50:00.000Z-Nw520-2021-07-07T22:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:50, 7 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:50:00.000Z-Nw520-2021-07-07T22:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-31.200.20.163-2021-07-07T22:50:00.000Z-Nw520-2021-07-07T22:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Call_for_participation_in_the_interview_study_with_Wikidata_editors" data-mw-thread-id="h-Call_for_participation_in_the_interview_study_with_Wikidata_editors"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Call_for_participation_in_the_interview_study_with_Wikidata_editors"></span>Call for participation in the interview study with Wikidata editors<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Call_for_participation_in_the_interview_study_with_Wikidata_editors"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Call for participation in the interview study with Wikidata editors"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Dear Nw520, </p><p>I hope you are doing good, </p><p>I am Kholoud, a researcher at King’s College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research that develops a personalized recommendation system to suggest Wikidata items for the editors based on their interests and preferences. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi. </p><p>I would love to talk with you to know about your current ways to choose the items you work on in Wikidata and understand the factors that might influence such a decision. Your cooperation will give us valuable insights into building a recommender system that can help improve your editing experience. </p><p>Participation is completely voluntary. You have the option to withdraw at any time. Your data will be processed under the terms of UK data protection law (including the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018). The information and data that you provide will remain confidential; it will only be stored on the password-protected computer of the researchers. We will use the results anonymized to provide insights into the practices of the editors in item selection processes for editing and publish the results of the study to a research venue. If you decide to take part, we will ask you to sign a consent form, and you will be given a copy of this consent form to keep. </p><p>If you’re interested in participating and have 15-20 minutes to chat (I promise to keep the time!), please either contact me at kholoudsaa@gmail.com or kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmmFHaiB20nK14wrQJgfrA18PtmdagyeRib3xGtvzkdn3Lgw/viewform?usp=sf_link">https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmmFHaiB20nK14wrQJgfrA18PtmdagyeRib3xGtvzkdn3Lgw/viewform?usp=sf_link</a> with your choice of the times that work for you. </p><p>I’ll follow up with you to figure out what method is the best way for us to connect. </p><p>Please contact me if you have any questions or require more information about this project. </p><p>Thank you for considering taking part in this research. </p><p>Regards </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa" title="User:Kholoudsaa">Kholoudsaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kholoudsaa" title="User talk:Kholoudsaa"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="software_edition_(Q92275711)_==_software_version_(Q20826013)_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-software_edition_(Q92275711)_==_software_version_(Q20826013)_?-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z"><span id="software_edition_.28Q92275711.29_.3D.3D_software_version_.28Q20826013.29_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-software_edition_(Q92275711)_==_software_version_(Q20826013)_?-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Q92275711" title="Q92275711">software edition <small>(Q92275711)</small></a> == <a href="/wiki/Q20826013" title="Q20826013">software version <small>(Q20826013)</small></a> ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-software_edition_(Q92275711)_==_software_version_(Q20826013)_?-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: software edition (Q92275711) == software version (Q20826013) ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z-software_edition_(Q92275711)_==_software_version_(Q20826013)_?"></span>Hi Nw520, </p><p>I see that you have created <a href="/wiki/Q92275711" title="Q92275711">software edition <small>(Q92275711)</small></a>. Is it the same thing as <a href="/wiki/Q20826013" title="Q20826013">software version <small>(Q20826013)</small></a>, or is there a nuance I don't get ? </p><p>Thank you, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:CaL%C3%A9Valab" title="User:CaLéValab">CaLéValab</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CaL%C3%A9Valab" title="User talk:CaLéValab"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z-software_edition_(Q92275711)_==_software_version_(Q20826013)_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z-software_edition_(Q92275711)_==_software_version_(Q20826013)_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z-software_edition_(Q92275711)_==_software_version_(Q20826013)_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2021-08-02T19:57:00.000Z-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:CaL%C3%A9Valab" title="User:CaLéValab">CaLéValab</a>, I intended <a href="/wiki/Q92275711" title="Q92275711">software edition <small>(Q92275711)</small></a> to be about different software editions like for example "Windows 10 <i>Home Edition</i>" and "Windows 10 <i>Professional</i>". In contrast, if I'm understanding it correctly, <a href="/wiki/Q20826013" title="Q20826013">software version <small>(Q20826013)</small></a> would rather describe the difference between "Windows 8" and "Windows 10" or more granularly, the difference between "MediaWiki 1.37" and "MediaWiki 1.36". --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2021-08-02T19:57:00.000Z-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2021-08-02T19:57:00.000Z-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2021-08-02T19:57:00.000Z-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T19:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T20:13:00.000Z-Nw520-2021-08-02T19:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520"><bdi>Nw520</bdi></a>: thank you. Indeed, it seems justified to keep both then. I added a <a href="/wiki/Property:P1889" title="Property:P1889">different from <small>(P1889)</small></a> to both entities, and a url reference to this talk section. <a href="/wiki/User:CaL%C3%A9Valab" title="User:CaLéValab">CaLéValab</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CaL%C3%A9Valab" title="User talk:CaLéValab"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T20:13:00.000Z-Nw520-2021-08-02T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:13, 2 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T20:13:00.000Z-Nw520-2021-08-02T19:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CaLéValab-2021-08-02T20:13:00.000Z-Nw520-2021-08-02T19:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Architectural_ensemble" data-mw-thread-id="h-Architectural_ensemble-2022-01-03T10:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Architectural_ensemble-2022-01-03T10:22:00.000Z"></span>Architectural ensemble<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Architectural_ensemble-2022-01-03T10:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Architectural ensemble"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SM5POR-2022-01-03T10:22:00.000Z-Architectural_ensemble"></span>Hi, I see that you recently reverted my claim that <a href="/wiki/Q172754" title="Q172754">world's fair <small>(Q172754)</small></a> is (among other things) a subclass of <a href="/wiki/Q1497375" title="Q1497375">architectural ensemble <small>(Q1497375)</small></a> for being a case of conflation. Since I'm always eager to learn from my mistakes (in order to avoid repeating them), could you please clarify what was wrong with that claim? </p><p>By making that claim, I was trying to resolve a property constraints violation, that of the <a href="/wiki/Q1505471" title="Q1505471">General Art and Industrial Exposition of Stockholm <small>(Q1505471)</small></a> being assigned an <a href="/wiki/Property:P149" title="Property:P149">architectural style <small dir="ltr">(P149)</small></a> of <a href="/wiki/Q34636" title="Q34636">Art Nouveau <small>(Q34636)</small></a>. Looking through the list of item classes to which an architectural style may be assigned, I found "architectural ensemble" the most fitting one, as World's fairs have often (if not always) been arranged to illustrate a particular architectural style. Or is that just a local idea in Stockholm? </p><p>Someone else has since changed the class of <a href="/wiki/Q1505471" title="Q1505471">General Art and Industrial Exposition of Stockholm <small>(Q1505471)</small></a> from World's Fair to <a href="/wiki/Q464980" title="Q464980">exhibition <small>(Q464980)</small></a>, but that makes little difference in this respect. </p><p>If a World's Fair can in no way be considered an architectural ensemble, do you see any other relationship between these two classes? I mean, there are usually buildings erected in such a venue, some of them even being left standing after the exhibition has ended, and those buildings are certainly works of architecture, so there must be <i>some</i> relationship, right? </p><p>The issue could of course have been resolved in other ways, but right now all I want to know is why this particular solution of mine was wrong. --<a href="/wiki/User:SM5POR" title="User:SM5POR">SM5POR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SM5POR" title="User talk:SM5POR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-SM5POR-2022-01-03T10:22:00.000Z-Architectural_ensemble" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 3 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SM5POR-2022-01-03T10:22:00.000Z-Architectural_ensemble"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SM5POR-2022-01-03T10:22:00.000Z-Architectural_ensemble"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan's_changes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan's_changes-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z"><span id="Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan.27s_changes"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan's_changes-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z"></span>Scripted Undo of Ericmclachlan's changes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan's_changes-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Scripted Undo of Ericmclachlan's changes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z-Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan's_changes"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520"><bdi>Nw520</bdi></a>: </p><p>It seems you are rolling back changes made by myself yesterday. </p><p>I'm actively trying to fix the underlying issue and I'm concerned your script is going to make my repair harder to do. </p><p>At the very least, are you able to stop the reverts at a particular timepoint? <small> – <bdi lang="en"><i>The preceding <a href="/wiki/Q4663253" title="Q4663253">unsigned</a> comment was added by</i> <bdi lang=""><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ericmclachlan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ericmclachlan (page does not exist)">Ericmclachlan</a></bdi> (<bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ericmclachlan" title="User talk:Ericmclachlan">talk</a></bdi> • <bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ericmclachlan" title="Special:Contributions/Ericmclachlan">contribs</a></bdi>) at <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z-Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan's_changes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:50, 9 February 2022 (UTC)</a>.</bdi></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z-Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan's_changes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z-Scripted_Undo_of_Ericmclachlan's_changes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2022-02-09T23:03:00.000Z-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z"></span>Hello <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ericmclachlan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ericmclachlan (page does not exist)">Ericmclachlan</a>, those were manual changes so no need to worry, I won't do any more reverts so that your repairs are not disturbed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2022-02-09T23:03:00.000Z-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2022-02-09T23:03:00.000Z-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2022-02-09T23:03:00.000Z-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T22:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T23:04:00.000Z-Nw520-2022-02-09T23:03:00.000Z"></span>Ah, OK. That's great. Thanks for confirming that. And thank you for being considerate to my needs. I sincerely appreciate it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ericmclachlan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ericmclachlan (page does not exist)">Eric McLachlan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ericmclachlan" title="User talk:Ericmclachlan"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T23:04:00.000Z-Nw520-2022-02-09T23:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 9 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T23:04:00.000Z-Nw520-2022-02-09T23:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ericmclachlan-2022-02-09T23:04:00.000Z-Nw520-2022-02-09T23:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Meine_Bearbeitung_an_der_Seite_Q1724" data-mw-thread-id="h-Meine_Bearbeitung_an_der_Seite_Q1724-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Meine_Bearbeitung_an_der_Seite_Q1724-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z"></span>Meine Bearbeitung an der Seite Q1724<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Meine_Bearbeitung_an_der_Seite_Q1724-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Meine Bearbeitung an der Seite Q1724"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beegies-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z-Meine_Bearbeitung_an_der_Seite_Q1724"></span>Der Eintrag zeigte "Potenzielle Probleme: Eigenschaftseinschränkung "keiner von" ... Landeshauptstadt ..." und so habe ich P279 statt P31 verwendet. why not? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Beegies&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Beegies (page does not exist)">Beegies</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beegies&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Beegies (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Beegies-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z-Meine_Bearbeitung_an_der_Seite_Q1724" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beegies-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z-Meine_Bearbeitung_an_der_Seite_Q1724"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beegies-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z-Meine_Bearbeitung_an_der_Seite_Q1724"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2022-03-02T17:00:00.000Z-Beegies-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z"></span>Hallo <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Beegies&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Beegies (page does not exist)">Beegies</a> und danke für die Kontaktaufnahme. Soweit ich sehe, hast du die Änderungen auch an sonstigen (ehemaligen) Instanzen von <a href="/wiki/Q14784328" title="Q14784328">state capital in Germany <small>(Q14784328)</small></a> durchgeführt. Die Grundidee der Einschränkung, die dir angezeigt wurde, wurde <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1567437286" title="Special:Diff/1567437286">im Januar 2022 von Lectrician1</a> hinzugefügt, Landeshauptstadt konkret <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1567480434" title="Special:Diff/1567480434">folgte kurz darauf</a>. Ich vermute mal, dass die <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Cities_and_Towns#Modelling_cities" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Cities and Towns">Intention</a> dahinter ist, dass die Aussage, dass eine Stadt eine Landeshauptstadt ist, gar nicht mehr über <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> erfasst werden soll, sondern ausschließlich über die Eigenschaft <a href="/wiki/Property:P1376" title="Property:P1376">capital of <small dir="ltr">(P1376)</small></a> ausgedrückt werden soll. Ob das sinnvoll ist…, nun gut, nicht meine Schwerpunkt, nicht mein Bier.</dd> <dd>Was aber konkreter Anlass für meine Verwunderung über deine Änderung war, ist die Verwendung in <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small dir="ltr">(P279)</small></a>. Die ist in meinen Augen inkorrekt, da eine (konkrete) Stadt eben keinen Klasse und somit auch keine Unterklasse ist. Möchte man der Einschränkung folgen, wäre in meinen Augen die Konsequenz, dass <a href="/wiki/Q14784328" title="Q14784328">state capital in Germany <small>(Q14784328)</small></a> weder in <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> noch <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small dir="ltr">(P279)</small></a> eingesetzt wird und schlicht ersatzlos entfernt wird. Zuvor sollte aber sichergestellt werden, dass <span class="statement"><b class="subject">⟨Stadt⟩</b><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P1376" title="Property:P1376">capital of <small>(P1376)</small></a></span><span class="object">⟨(Bundes-)Land⟩</span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130"> existiert. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2022-03-02T17:00:00.000Z-Beegies-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 2 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2022-03-02T17:00:00.000Z-Beegies-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2022-03-02T17:00:00.000Z-Beegies-2022-03-02T14:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beegies-2022-03-02T19:32:00.000Z-Nw520-2022-03-02T17:00:00.000Z"></span>Danke für diese Erläuterungen. Die Vermutung über die Intention der angezeigten Probleme kann ich nachvollziehen. Meine Verwendung von P279 entferne ich nach Prüfung. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Beegies&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Beegies (page does not exist)">Beegies</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beegies&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Beegies (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Beegies-2022-03-02T19:32:00.000Z-Nw520-2022-03-02T17:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 2 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beegies-2022-03-02T19:32:00.000Z-Nw520-2022-03-02T17:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beegies-2022-03-02T19:32:00.000Z-Nw520-2022-03-02T17:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Geocaching" data-mw-thread-id="h-Geocaching-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Geocaching-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z"></span>Geocaching<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Geocaching-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Geocaching"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SM5POR-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z-Geocaching"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520"><bdi>Nw520</bdi></a>: @<a href="/wiki/User:Frettie" title="User:Frettie"><bdi>Frettie</bdi></a>: Okay, I think I'm getting what this "conflation" issue is about now. I was going through the list of file formats supported by <a href="/wiki/Q1486544" title="Q1486544">GPSBabel <small>(Q1486544)</small></a> to resolve the constraint issues, where <a href="/wiki/Q14930" title="Q14930">geocaching <small>(Q14930)</small></a> was stated to be one of them. But then I suppose the proper solution is to create a new item for the EasyGPS (.loc) file format instead; do you agree? If so, I could do the same for the navigator brands, unless they are treated differently (like, defining a "Garmin format" as a file format family, distinct from the Garmin company, right)? A yes or no should be sufficient to tell me whether I'm on the right track. </p><p>But I would still like to see your comments on the architectural ensemble I asked about above, so that I can finally fix that one too. --<a href="/wiki/User:SM5POR" title="User:SM5POR">SM5POR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SM5POR" title="User talk:SM5POR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-SM5POR-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z-Geocaching" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 3 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SM5POR-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z-Geocaching"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SM5POR-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z-Geocaching"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frettie-2022-03-03T12:20:00.000Z-SM5POR-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z"></span>Hi, i think, thats correct. .Loc file type isnt geocacing file type, easygps file format is better. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Frettie" title="User:Frettie">Frettie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Frettie" title="User talk:Frettie"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Frettie-2022-03-03T12:20:00.000Z-SM5POR-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frettie-2022-03-03T12:20:00.000Z-SM5POR-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frettie-2022-03-03T12:20:00.000Z-SM5POR-2022-03-03T11:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2022-03-03T14:07:00.000Z-Frettie-2022-03-03T12:20:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:SM5POR" title="User:SM5POR">SM5POR</a>, file types are not my speciality but from what I can tell your proposed model seems to be reasonable. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2022-03-03T14:07:00.000Z-Frettie-2022-03-03T12:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 3 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2022-03-03T14:07:00.000Z-Frettie-2022-03-03T12:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2022-03-03T14:07:00.000Z-Frettie-2022-03-03T12:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="screw_gun_(Q15807771)" data-mw-thread-id="h-screw_gun_(Q15807771)-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z"><span id="screw_gun_.28Q15807771.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-screw_gun_(Q15807771)-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Q15807771" title="Q15807771">screw gun <small>(Q15807771)</small></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-screw_gun_(Q15807771)-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: screw gun (Q15807771)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z-screw_gun_(Q15807771)"></span>Hallo NW, </p><p>eine <i>screw gun</i> im Englischen ist etwas ziemlich Spezifisches nur zum Schraubenhereindrehen. </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://waltcotoolsinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/6201A.jpg">https://waltcotoolsinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/6201A.jpg</a> </p><p>--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Union of Secret Surveillance Republics (page does not exist)">Union of Secret Surveillance Republics</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Union of Secret Surveillance Republics (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z-screw_gun_(Q15807771)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:00, 18 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z-screw_gun_(Q15807771)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z-screw_gun_(Q15807771)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2022-03-18T20:32:00.000Z-Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z"></span>Hallo <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Union of Secret Surveillance Republics (page does not exist)">Union of Secret Surveillance Republics</a>, besten Dank für deinen Hinweis. Verstehe ich richtig, dass man mit einer Screw Gun ausschließlich Schrauben hineindrehen kann, während der Schrauber sowohl hinein- als auch herausdrehen kann? In dem Fall würde ich dann ein zweites Datenobjekt für „Schrauber“ erstellen und den Seitenlink <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fi:Ruuvinv%C3%A4%C3%A4nnin" class="extiw" title="w:fi:Ruuvinväännin">w:fi:Ruuvinväännin</a> zu diesem verschieben. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2022-03-18T20:32:00.000Z-Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 18 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2022-03-18T20:32:00.000Z-Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2022-03-18T20:32:00.000Z-Union_of_Secret_Surveillance_Republics-2022-03-18T14:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="military_aircraft_(Q216916)_(label_question)" data-mw-thread-id="h-military_aircraft_(Q216916)_(label_question)-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z"><span id="military_aircraft_.28Q216916.29_.28label_question.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-military_aircraft_(Q216916)_(label_question)-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Q216916" title="Q216916">military aircraft <small>(Q216916)</small></a> (label question)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-military_aircraft_(Q216916)_(label_question)-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: military aircraft (Q216916) (label question)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z-military_aircraft_(Q216916)_(label_question)"></span>As you seem to be knowledgeable of both German and aviation, could you please take a look at the German label/description of this item? It does not match the dewiki article name, but instead matches that for <a href="/wiki/Q19287541" title="Q19287541">combat aircraft <small>(Q19287541)</small></a>, which is a sub-class of the this one. It does not seem right to me, but not being fluent enough in German, I feel unqualified to change it. Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Joshbaumgartner-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z-military_aircraft_(Q216916)_(label_question)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z-military_aircraft_(Q216916)_(label_question)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z-military_aircraft_(Q216916)_(label_question)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-2022-04-06T09:38:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a>, “Kampfflugzeuge” are indeed a proper subclass of <a href="/wiki/Q216916" title="Q216916">military aircraft <small>(Q216916)</small></a>, namely <i>armed</i> aircrafts. I have changed the German label to the article's name. The description is fine and essentially equal to the English ones. Luxembourgish was conflated too, so I have created a new item for it. Thanks for the tip and best wishes. <small style="font-size:85%;">(Small warning: I'm not exactly knowledgeable about aviation. My participation in the discussion about aircraft types was rather an accident. :D)</small>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-2022-04-06T09:38:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 6 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-2022-04-06T09:38:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-2022-04-06T09:38:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2022-04-06T02:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request-20220901091900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request-20220901091900"></span>Request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request-20220901091900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-31.200.13.90-20220901091900-Request"></span>Hello. </p><p>Can you add in the Wikidata page "Azerbaijani Wikipedia" (<a href="/wiki/Q58251" title="Q58251">Q58251</a>), the Samogitian language edition <a href="https://bat-smg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Az%C4%97rbaid%C5%BEian%C4%97it%C4%97%C5%A1ka_Vikiped%C4%97j%C4%97" class="extiw" title="bat-smg:Azėrbaidžianėitėška Vikipedėjė">bat-smg:Azėrbaidžianėitėška Vikipedėjė</a> and the Furlan language edition <a href="https://fur.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichipedie_azeri" class="extiw" title="fur:Vichipedie azeri">fur:Vichipedie azeri</a>? That page is semi-protected and I cannot add them as a result. </p><p>Yours sincerely, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/31.200.13.90" title="Special:Contributions/31.200.13.90">31.200.13.90</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-31.200.13.90-20220901091900-Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-31.200.13.90-20220901091900-Request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-31.200.13.90-20220901091900-Request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20220901092800-31.200.13.90-20220901091900"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:31.200.13.90&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:31.200.13.90 (page does not exist)"><bdi>31.200.13.90</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Thank you! --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20220901092800-31.200.13.90-20220901091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20220901092800-31.200.13.90-20220901091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20220901092800-31.200.13.90-20220901091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-31.200.13.90-20220901095600-Nw520-20220901092800"></span>Thank you very much. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/31.200.13.90" title="Special:Contributions/31.200.13.90">31.200.13.90</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-31.200.13.90-20220901095600-Nw520-20220901092800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:56, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-31.200.13.90-20220901095600-Nw520-20220901092800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-31.200.13.90-20220901095600-Nw520-20220901092800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Q1473437" data-mw-thread-id="h-Q1473437-20220906042400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Q1473437-20220906042400"></span>Q1473437<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Q1473437-20220906042400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Q1473437"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asurnipal-20220906042400-Q1473437"></span>Hallo <a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">User:Nw520</a>, Das von Dir eingefügte: "Arbeitsgebiet" im Beitrag "Sucharit Bhakdi" existiert nicht. COVID-19-Leugner ist kein Arbeitsgebiet. Wer in Rente ist, hat keinen Arbeitgeber und auch kein Arbeitsgebiet und keinen Arbeitsplatz, weil er kener Arbeit mehr nachgeht. Man kann das vielleicht unter "Interessensgebiet" oder "Hobbys" oder ähnliches reingeben, Arbeit ist es per Definition keine. Ich lösche daher die ganze Zeile raus und bitte Dich, eine passenderen Eintragung dafür zu suchen. SG, <a href="/wiki/User:Asurnipal" title="User:Asurnipal">Asurnipal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asurnipal" title="User talk:Asurnipal"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Asurnipal-20220906042400-Q1473437" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 6 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asurnipal-20220906042400-Q1473437"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asurnipal-20220906042400-Q1473437"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20220906090900-Asurnipal-20220906042400"></span>Ergibt Sinn, besten Dank für die Erläuterung. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20220906090900-Asurnipal-20220906042400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:09, 6 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20220906090900-Asurnipal-20220906042400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20220906090900-Asurnipal-20220906042400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Q6746" data-mw-thread-id="h-Q6746-20220928180800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Q6746-20220928180800"></span>Q6746<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Q6746-20220928180800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Q6746"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aidepikiw-nick-20220928180800-Q6746"></span>Das vermeintliche 2021er Logo von Citroen war nie ein offizielles, siehe <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-en/citroen/press/new-citroen-brand-identity-and-logo-signal-exciting-energetic-and-modern-era-to-come">https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-en/citroen/press/new-citroen-brand-identity-and-logo-signal-exciting-energetic-and-modern-era-to-come</a>, also lass es bitte draußen, danke. <a href="/wiki/User:Aidepikiw-nick" title="User:Aidepikiw-nick">Aidepikiw-nick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aidepikiw-nick" title="User talk:Aidepikiw-nick"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Aidepikiw-nick-20220928180800-Q6746" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 28 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aidepikiw-nick-20220928180800-Q6746"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aidepikiw-nick-20220928180800-Q6746"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Panoviewer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Panoviewer-20221016124000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Panoviewer-20221016124000"></span>Panoviewer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Panoviewer-20221016124000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Panoviewer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nikki-20221016124000-Panoviewer"></span>Panoviewer, das du derzeit via common.js lädst, wurde in ein Gadget umgewandelt. Damit die Abhängigkeiten auch geladen werden, würde ich empfehlen, das Gadget in den Einstellungen einzuschalten. :) </p><p>Falls du es weiterhin via common.js laden möchtest, solltest du <code>mw.loader.load( 'ext.gadget.Panoviewer' );</code> benutzen, um die Abhängigkeiten mitzuladen. </p><p>- <a href="/wiki/User:Nikki" title="User:Nikki">Nikki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nikki" title="User talk:Nikki"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nikki-20221016124000-Panoviewer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 16 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nikki-20221016124000-Panoviewer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nikki-20221016124000-Panoviewer"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20221016211700-Nikki-20221016124000"></span>Vielen Dank für den Hinweis, Nikki. Meine Commons.js ist nun aktualisiert. <a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20221016211700-Nikki-20221016124000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20221016211700-Nikki-20221016124000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20221016211700-Nikki-20221016124000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Isn't_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Isn't_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment?-20221104042600"><span id="Isn.27t_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Isn't_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment?-20221104042600"></span>Isn't cycling equipment also sports equipment?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Isn't_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment?-20221104042600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Isn't cycling equipment also sports equipment?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Push-f-20221104042600-Isn't_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment?"></span>You changed <span class="statement"><b class="subject"><a href="/wiki/Q114715826" title="Q114715826">cycling equipment <small>(Q114715826)</small></a></b><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small>(P279)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q768186" title="Q768186">sports equipment <small>(Q768186)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130"> to <span class="statement"><b class="subject"><a href="/wiki/Q114715826" title="Q114715826">cycling equipment <small>(Q114715826)</small></a></b><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small>(P279)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q10273457" title="Q10273457">equipment <small>(Q10273457)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130"> and I wonder why. --<a href="/wiki/User:Push-f" title="User:Push-f">Push-f</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Push-f" title="User talk:Push-f"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Push-f-20221104042600-Isn't_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:26, 4 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Push-f-20221104042600-Isn't_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Push-f-20221104042600-Isn't_cycling_equipment_also_sports_equipment?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20221104181800-Push-f-20221104042600"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Push-f" title="User:Push-f">Push-f</a>, yes, you are right, <span class="statement"><b class="subject"><a href="/wiki/Q114715826" title="Q114715826">cycling equipment <small>(Q114715826)</small></a></b><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small>(P279)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q768186" title="Q768186">sports equipment <small>(Q768186)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130"> was indeed correct. The German label and linked article on Wikipedia at <a href="/wiki/Q768186" title="Q768186">sports equipment <small>(Q768186)</small></a> seem to be conflating and I failed to properly check the English label. Sorry for that, I reverted my edit. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20221104181800-Push-f-20221104042600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 4 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20221104181800-Push-f-20221104042600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20221104181800-Push-f-20221104042600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Push-f-20221105060600-Nw520-20221104181800"></span>No worries, thanks for looking into it :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Push-f" title="User:Push-f">Push-f</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Push-f" title="User talk:Push-f"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Push-f-20221105060600-Nw520-20221104181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 5 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Push-f-20221105060600-Nw520-20221104181800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Push-f-20221105060600-Nw520-20221104181800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deutscher_Wetterdienst" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deutscher_Wetterdienst-20221228234900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deutscher_Wetterdienst-20221228234900"></span>Deutscher Wetterdienst<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deutscher_Wetterdienst-20221228234900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Deutscher Wetterdienst"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pierre_cb-20221228234900-Deutscher_Wetterdienst"></span>Sorry I, do not understand why you have reverted my edit as it is referenced by <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.dwd.de/DE/leistungen/jahresberichte_dwd/jahresberichte_pdf/jahresbericht_2012.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=2#page=94">https://www.dwd.de/DE/leistungen/jahresberichte_dwd/jahresberichte_pdf/jahresbericht_2012.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=2#page=94</a> directly from DWD? It says clearly that it was signed by the RFA president on November 11, 1952 and promulgated on the November 29. According to your comment, you can to change the founding date to November 29, 1952 not revert to only 1952. <a href="/wiki/User:Pierre_cb" title="User:Pierre cb">Pierre cb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pierre_cb" title="User talk:Pierre cb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Pierre_cb-20221228234900-Deutscher_Wetterdienst" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 28 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pierre_cb-20221228234900-Deutscher_Wetterdienst"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pierre_cb-20221228234900-Deutscher_Wetterdienst"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20221229010900-Pierre_cb-20221228234900"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Pierre_cb" title="User:Pierre cb">Pierre cb</a>, the link you've used as reference indeed states that the constitutive law was signed on 11 November 1952 and promulgated on 29 November. However, I'm not entirely sure when the law has actually come into force. Typically, for German laws there's a paragraph which mandates on which date it comes into force, but for the original <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://offenegesetze.de/veroeffentlichung/bgbl1/1952/49#page=2">DWD-Gesetz</a> no date was defined. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bundestag.de/parlament/aufgaben/gesetzgebung_neu/gesetzgebung/weg-255468">Deutscher Bundestag</a> and the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://hdr.bmj.de/page_c.11.html">Handbuch der Rechtsförmigkeit</a> cite <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://offenegesetze.de/veroeffentlichung/bgbl1/1949/1#page=11">Grundgesetz Art. 82 II Satz 2</a> stating that, if not mandated otherwise, a law comes into effect 14 days after its promulgation. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20221229010900-Pierre_cb-20221228234900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20221229010900-Pierre_cb-20221228234900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20221229010900-Pierre_cb-20221228234900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pierre_cb-20221229044700-Nw520-20221229010900"></span>My German is minimal so I cannot read most of your links, so I am not arguing with the details. I am not about the do further editing on the subject. However, your explanation looks very formal, for me the moment the law is signed by the President or the day of its promulgation seems to me the foundation of the DWD. After that, it could have taken years for all the the services to cooperate and act as one, it does not matter. <a href="/wiki/User:Pierre_cb" title="User:Pierre cb">Pierre cb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pierre_cb" title="User talk:Pierre cb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Pierre_cb-20221229044700-Nw520-20221229010900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 29 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pierre_cb-20221229044700-Nw520-20221229010900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pierre_cb-20221229044700-Nw520-20221229010900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_(Q1205299):_member_count_(P2124)" data-mw-thread-id="h-German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_(Q1205299):_member_count_(P2124)-20230131132900"><span id="German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_.28Q1205299.29:_member_count_.28P2124.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_(Q1205299):_member_count_(P2124)-20230131132900"></span><a href="/wiki/Q1205299" title="Q1205299">German Shooting and Archery Federation <small>(Q1205299)</small></a>: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2124" title="Property:P2124">member count <small dir="ltr">(P2124)</small></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_(Q1205299):_member_count_(P2124)-20230131132900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: German Shooting and Archery Federation (Q1205299): member count (P2124)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Floscher-20230131132900-German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_(Q1205299):_member_count_(P2124)"></span>Du hast die Mitgliederzahl von <a href="/wiki/Q1205299" title="Q1205299">German Shooting and Archery Federation <small>(Q1205299)</small></a> auf 20 gesetzt, weil im Lobbyregister des dt. Bundestags steht „Mitglieder: 20“. Das bezieht sich aber vmtl. auf die Anzahl der Lobbyisten im Bundestag, die Eigenschaft <a href="/wiki/Property:P2124" title="Property:P2124">member count <small dir="ltr">(P2124)</small></a> bezieht sich aber darauf, wie viele Menschen Mitglied in der Organisation sind. </p><p>Für die Anzahl der Lobbyisten sollte also eher eine andere Eigenschaft gewählt werden. Evtl. auch eher als Eigenschaft von <a href="/wiki/Q154797" title="Q154797">German Bundestag <small>(Q154797)</small></a> mit <a href="/wiki/Q1205299" title="Q1205299">German Shooting and Archery Federation <small>(Q1205299)</small></a> als Qualifier. </p><p>Siehe <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1205299&diff=1623123614&oldid=1620830561&diffmode=source">https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1205299&diff=1623123614&oldid=1620830561&diffmode=source</a> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Floscher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Floscher (page does not exist)">Floscher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Floscher" title="User talk:Floscher"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Floscher-20230131132900-German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_(Q1205299):_member_count_(P2124)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Floscher-20230131132900-German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_(Q1205299):_member_count_(P2124)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Floscher-20230131132900-German_Shooting_and_Archery_Federation_(Q1205299):_member_count_(P2124)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20230131143100-Floscher-20230131132900"></span>Hallo <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Floscher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Floscher (page does not exist)">Floscher</a>, ich gehe eher davor aus, dass sich die 20 hier auf die Anzahl der Mitgliedsorganisationen des <a href="/wiki/Q1205299" title="Q1205299">German Shooting and Archery Federation <small>(Q1205299)</small></a> bezieht (i.d.R. Landesverbände). Unter dieser Annahme hätte der Verband dann auch keinen unmittelbaren „menschlichen“ Mitglieder sondern nur mittelbar über die untergeordneten Gliederungen. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20230131143100-Floscher-20230131132900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 31 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20230131143100-Floscher-20230131132900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20230131143100-Floscher-20230131132900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20230131143300-Floscher-20230131132900"></span>Gerade nachgezählt, es gibt in der Tat 20 Landesverbände. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20230131143300-Floscher-20230131132900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 31 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20230131143300-Floscher-20230131132900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20230131143300-Floscher-20230131132900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Floscher-20230131144500-Nw520-20230131143300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a>: Danke für die Änderung. Ja, mit <a href="/wiki/Q43229" title="Q43229">organization <small>(Q43229)</small></a> als Einheit macht es natürlich Sinn. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Floscher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Floscher (page does not exist)">Floscher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Floscher" title="User talk:Floscher"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Floscher-20230131144500-Nw520-20230131143300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 31 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Floscher-20230131144500-Nw520-20230131143300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Floscher-20230131144500-Nw520-20230131143300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="link_einfügen_etc" data-mw-thread-id="h-link_einfügen_etc-20230203163700"><span id="link_einf.C3.BCgen_etc"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-link_einfügen_etc-20230203163700"></span>link einfügen etc<span data-mw-comment-end="h-link_einfügen_etc-20230203163700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: link einfügen etc"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hannes_24-20230203163700-link_einfügen_etc"></span>Hallo, da ich mich hier nicht so gut auskenne, kannst du bei Beeren (Q116502089) den link/die Quelle in der dortigen disk richtig eintragen. Ich bin da gescheitert. lG <a href="/wiki/User:Hannes_24" title="User:Hannes 24">Hannes 24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hannes_24" title="User talk:Hannes 24"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Hannes_24-20230203163700-link_einfügen_etc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hannes_24-20230203163700-link_einfügen_etc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hannes_24-20230203163700-link_einfügen_etc"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hannes_24-20230203164000-Hannes_24-20230203163700"></span>noch was: bei Adelsgeschlechtern wird die Verknüpfung „von (aus)“ beim Anlegen als „problematisch“ gemeldet. Welche Funktion wäre das besser? --<a href="/wiki/User:Hannes_24" title="User:Hannes 24">Hannes 24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hannes_24" title="User talk:Hannes 24"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Hannes_24-20230203164000-Hannes_24-20230203163700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 3 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hannes_24-20230203164000-Hannes_24-20230203163700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hannes_24-20230203164000-Hannes_24-20230203163700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20230204043900-Hannes_24-20230203164000"></span>Hallo <a href="/wiki/User:Hannes_24" title="User:Hannes 24">Hannes 24</a>, Adelsgeschlechter sprengen leider völlig meinen Kompetenzrahmen, insofern würde ich vorschlagen im <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Forum" title="Wikidata:Forum">Forum</a> mal nachzufragen (eine passende Arbeitsgruppe konnte ich leider nicht finden, <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Medieval_Nobility" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Medieval Nobility">Wikidata:WikiProject Medieval Nobility</a> ist zu spezialisiert). --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20230204043900-Hannes_24-20230203164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 4 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20230204043900-Hannes_24-20230203164000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20230204043900-Hannes_24-20230203164000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_(Q2887699)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_(Q2887699)-20230305231000"><span id="Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_.28Q2887699.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_(Q2887699)-20230305231000"></span>Bastide de Tour sainte (Q2887699)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_(Q2887699)-20230305231000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Bastide de Tour sainte (Q2887699)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fr.Latreille-20230305231000-Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_(Q2887699)"></span>The tower named "Tour sainte" is NOT included in the domain named "Bastide de Tour sainte". A picture of it should not be used to illustrate the "bastide". For more, if you can read it, see : </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Bastide_de_Tour_Sainte">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Bastide_de_Tour_Sainte</a> </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fr.Latreille&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fr.Latreille (page does not exist)">Fr.Latreille</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fr.Latreille&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Fr.Latreille (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Fr.Latreille-20230305231000-Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_(Q2887699)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fr.Latreille-20230305231000-Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_(Q2887699)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fr.Latreille-20230305231000-Bastide_de_Tour_sainte_(Q2887699)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fr.Latreille-20230307174300-Fr.Latreille-20230305231000"></span>Thanks for removal. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fr.Latreille&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fr.Latreille (page does not exist)">Fr.Latreille</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fr.Latreille&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Fr.Latreille (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Fr.Latreille-20230307174300-Fr.Latreille-20230305231000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fr.Latreille-20230307174300-Fr.Latreille-20230305231000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fr.Latreille-20230307174300-Fr.Latreille-20230305231000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="TK_Development" data-mw-thread-id="h-TK_Development-20230408125900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TK_Development-20230408125900"></span>TK Development<span data-mw-comment-end="h-TK_Development-20230408125900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: TK Development"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408125900-TK_Development"></span>You removed link to description of two companies, but in changes description you don't explain why ? Can you explain this change ? (p.s. please answer below with call my nick with @) <a href="/wiki/User:KrzysztofPoplawski" title="User:KrzysztofPoplawski">Krzysztof Popławski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KrzysztofPoplawski" title="User talk:KrzysztofPoplawski"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408125900-TK_Development" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408125900-TK_Development"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408125900-TK_Development"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20230408130100-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408125900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:KrzysztofPoplawski" title="User:KrzysztofPoplawski"><bdi>KrzysztofPoplawski</bdi></a>: Could you please provide me with the Q-IDs of the items you are referring to? --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20230408130100-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408125900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20230408130100-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408125900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20230408130100-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408125900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408130400-Nw520-20230408130100"></span>Sure. <a href="/wiki/Q110064625" title="Q110064625">Q110064625</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q110064612" title="Q110064612">Q110064612</a> <a href="/wiki/User:KrzysztofPoplawski" title="User:KrzysztofPoplawski">Krzysztof Popławski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KrzysztofPoplawski" title="User talk:KrzysztofPoplawski"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408130400-Nw520-20230408130100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408130400-Nw520-20230408130100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408130400-Nw520-20230408130100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20230408130600-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408130400"></span>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:KrzysztofPoplawski" title="User:KrzysztofPoplawski">Krzysztof Popławski</a>, I've moved the URLs from the generic <a href="/wiki/Property:P973" title="Property:P973">described at URL <small dir="ltr">(P973)</small></a>-property to the specialised <a href="/wiki/Property:P10306" title="Property:P10306">North Data ID <small dir="ltr">(P10306)</small></a>-property. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20230408130600-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408130400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20230408130600-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408130400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20230408130600-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408130400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408131500-Nw520-20230408130600"></span>Ok. Thank You. Good to know that North Data have their own property. Thanks for change and explain. <a href="/wiki/User:KrzysztofPoplawski" title="User:KrzysztofPoplawski">Krzysztof Popławski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KrzysztofPoplawski" title="User talk:KrzysztofPoplawski"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408131500-Nw520-20230408130600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408131500-Nw520-20230408130600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KrzysztofPoplawski-20230408131500-Nw520-20230408130600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sucharit_Bhakdi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sucharit_Bhakdi-20230814045800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sucharit_Bhakdi-20230814045800"></span>Sucharit Bhakdi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sucharit_Bhakdi-20230814045800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Sucharit Bhakdi"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asurnipal-20230814045800-Sucharit_Bhakdi"></span>Hallo Nw520, Deine Rücksetzung im Beitrag <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sucharit_Bhakdi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sucharit Bhakdi (page does not exist)">Sucharit Bhakdi</a> ist nicht korrekt. COVID-19-Leugnung ist keine "Eigenschaft" und kein "Arbeitsgebiet. Das kann wo anders hin, aber sicher nicht unter "Arbeitsgebiet" oder "Eigenschaft", weil es eine solche "Arbeit" nicht gibt. Bitte stell den ursprünglichen Zustand wieder her. Danke. SG, <a href="/wiki/User:Asurnipal" title="User:Asurnipal">Asurnipal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asurnipal" title="User talk:Asurnipal"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Asurnipal-20230814045800-Sucharit_Bhakdi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:58, 14 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asurnipal-20230814045800-Sucharit_Bhakdi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asurnipal-20230814045800-Sucharit_Bhakdi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20230814114500-Asurnipal-20230814045800"></span>Hallo <a href="/wiki/User:Asurnipal" title="User:Asurnipal">Asurnipal</a>, mit Änderung vom <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1721807852/1722174119" title="Special:Diff/1721807852/1722174119">September 2022</a> wird <a href="/wiki/Property:P101" title="Property:P101">field of work <small dir="ltr">(P101)</small></a> nicht mehr genutzt. Insofern kann ich nicht recht nachvollziehen, welche Änderung du revertiert sehen möchtest. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20230814114500-Asurnipal-20230814045800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 14 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20230814114500-Asurnipal-20230814045800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20230814114500-Asurnipal-20230814045800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bundesverdienstkreuze" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bundesverdienstkreuze-20230817101300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bundesverdienstkreuze-20230817101300"></span>Bundesverdienstkreuze<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bundesverdienstkreuze-20230817101300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Bundesverdienstkreuze"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-U._M._Owen-20230817101300-Bundesverdienstkreuze"></span>Hallo Nw520, </p><p>hast du zufällig eine Statistik über die Vollständigkeit der Bundesverdienstkreuzträger bei Wikidata? </p><p>Viele Grüße-- <a href="/wiki/User:U._M._Owen" title="User:U. M. Owen">U. M. Owen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:U._M._Owen" title="User talk:U. M. Owen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-U._M._Owen-20230817101300-Bundesverdienstkreuze" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:13, 17 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-U._M._Owen-20230817101300-Bundesverdienstkreuze"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-U._M._Owen-20230817101300-Bundesverdienstkreuze"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20230817104200-U._M._Owen-20230817101300"></span>Hallo <a href="/wiki/User:U._M._Owen" title="User:U. M. Owen">U. M. Owen</a>, leider habe ich keine solche Statistik. Zwar übernehme ich Änderungen an der <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Liste_von_Tr%C3%A4gern_des_Bundesverdienstkreuzes_am_Bande" class="extiw" title="w:de:Liste von Trägern des Bundesverdienstkreuzes am Bande">Wikipedia</a> in Wikidata, aber die Listen dort sind leider nicht vollständig. <a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20230817104200-U._M._Owen-20230817101300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 17 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20230817104200-U._M._Owen-20230817101300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20230817104200-U._M._Owen-20230817101300"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-U._M._Owen-20230817104300-Nw520-20230817104200"></span>Wäre eigentlicher jeder Träger relevant? Erstellt du Datenobjekte für fehlende Personen?--<a href="/wiki/User:U._M._Owen" title="User:U. M. Owen">U. M. Owen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:U._M._Owen" title="User talk:U. M. Owen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-U._M._Owen-20230817104300-Nw520-20230817104200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 17 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-U._M._Owen-20230817104300-Nw520-20230817104200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-U._M._Owen-20230817104300-Nw520-20230817104200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20230817105700-U._M._Owen-20230817104300"></span>Hallo <a href="/wiki/User:U._M._Owen" title="User:U. M. Owen">U. M. Owen</a>, ich lege in diesem Fall keine Datenobjekte für fehlende Personen an. Das hängt vor allem damit zusammen, dass ich mich etwas schwer mit den <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Notability/de" title="Wikidata:Notability/de">Relevanzkriterien</a> tue. Ich würde mal behaupten, dass man die Frage inwieweit Preisträger relevant sind ganz gut im <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Forum" title="Wikidata:Forum">Forum</a> sondieren kann. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20230817105700-U._M._Owen-20230817104300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 17 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20230817105700-U._M._Owen-20230817104300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20230817105700-U._M._Owen-20230817104300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Juristischer_Sitz_vs._Hauptverwaltung" data-mw-thread-id="h-Juristischer_Sitz_vs._Hauptverwaltung-20240122154400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Juristischer_Sitz_vs._Hauptverwaltung-20240122154400"></span>Juristischer Sitz vs. Hauptverwaltung<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Juristischer_Sitz_vs._Hauptverwaltung-20240122154400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Juristischer Sitz vs. Hauptverwaltung"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonepteryx-20240122154400-Juristischer_Sitz_vs._Hauptverwaltung"></span>Hallo Nw520, dürfte ich Dich – wenn es die Zeit erlaubt – um die Mithilfe bei einer Präzisierung bitten, die leider meine technischen Wikidata-Fähigkeiten übersteigt? Es geht in <a href="/wiki/Q31837984" title="Q31837984">Werteunion booster club <small>(Q31837984)</small></a> um die Trennung von juristischem Sitz (Vereinssitz) und Hauptverwaltung. Zur Zeit ist unter <a href="/wiki/Property:P159" title="Property:P159">headquarters location <small dir="ltr">(P159)</small></a> beides eingetragen, Plankstadt und Worms. Ich habe erfolglos versucht, <a href="/wiki/Q470540" title="Q470540">seat <small>(Q470540)</small></a> (juristischer Sitz, der Wert dazu ist Plankstadt, Fundstelle existiert) als neue, zusätzliche Aussage zu etablieren, es wurde jedoch sogleich mit P159, der Aussage Hauptverwaltung, fusioniert. Worms ist im <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://werteunion.de/impressum/">Impressum der Website</a> lediglich mit Postfach als Kontaktadresse angegeben. Ob sich in Worms auch effektiv eine Hauptverwaltung befindet ist nicht erwiesen. Wie kann man das korrekt darstellen, weißt Du einen Rat? <a href="/wiki/User:Gonepteryx" title="User:Gonepteryx">Gonepteryx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonepteryx" title="User talk:Gonepteryx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Gonepteryx-20240122154400-Juristischer_Sitz_vs._Hauptverwaltung" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 22 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonepteryx-20240122154400-Juristischer_Sitz_vs._Hauptverwaltung"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonepteryx-20240122154400-Juristischer_Sitz_vs._Hauptverwaltung"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20240123170000-Gonepteryx-20240122154400"></span>Hallo <a href="/wiki/User:Gonepteryx" title="User:Gonepteryx">Gonepteryx</a>, keine ganz einfache Frage, würde ich mal behaupten. Soweit ich sehe, gibt es in Wikidata nur die Eigenschaft <a href="/wiki/Property:P159" title="Property:P159">headquarters location <small dir="ltr">(P159)</small></a> mit der (mindestens de facto) sowohl der rechtliche Hauptsitz als auch die Hauptverwaltung modelliert wird. Eine Möglichkeit das zu trennen wäre die Verwendung von Qualifikatoren. Im Falle der Werteunion würde das dann die Aussagen ergeben:</dd></dl> <div class="statementplus" style="" dir="ltr"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2273692885"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2080812426"><div class="navbar plainlinks hlist navbar-mini"><ul><li class="nv-view"><a href="/wiki/Template:Statement%2B" title="Template:Statement+"><abbr title="View this template">v</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-talk"><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Statement%2B" title="Template talk:Statement+"><abbr title="Discuss this template">t</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-edit"><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Statement%2B&action=edit"><abbr title="Edit this template">e</abbr></a></li></ul></div> <table> <tbody><tr> <td class="statementplus-property" rowspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Property:P159" title="Property:P159">headquarters location</a> </td> <td colspan="2"><table dir="ltr" class="statementplus-value"> <tbody><tr> <td class="statementplus-rank"><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Normal rank"><img alt="Normal rank" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/8px-Normal_rank.svg.png" decoding="async" width="8" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/12px-Normal_rank.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/16px-Normal_rank.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="8" data-file-height="20"/></span></span></td> <td class="statementplus-mainsnak"><a href="/wiki/Q3852" title="Q3852">Worms</a></td> <td class="statementplus-editlink"><span>edit</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"><table dir="ltr" class="statementplus-block"> <tbody><tr> <td><del><a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form</a></del><ins><a href="/wiki/Property:P3831" title="Property:P3831">object of statement has role</a></ins></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Q470540" title="Q470540">seat</a></td> </tr></tbody></table></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"> <div class="mw-collapsible innercollapse" id="mw-customcollapsible-183689"> <div class="statementplus-references-toggle mw-customtoggle-183689">0 references</div> <div class="mw-collapsible-content"><div class="statementplus-addreference">add reference</div> </div></div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr class="statementplus-addtoolbar"> <td> </td> <td class="statementplus-addtoolbar-tool">add value </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <div class="statementplus" style="" dir="ltr"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2273692885"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2080812426"><div class="navbar plainlinks hlist navbar-mini"><ul><li class="nv-view"><a href="/wiki/Template:Statement%2B" title="Template:Statement+"><abbr title="View this template">v</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-talk"><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Statement%2B" title="Template talk:Statement+"><abbr title="Discuss this template">t</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-edit"><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Statement%2B&action=edit"><abbr title="Edit this template">e</abbr></a></li></ul></div> <table> <tbody><tr> <td class="statementplus-property" rowspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Property:P159" title="Property:P159">headquarters location</a> </td> <td colspan="2"><table dir="ltr" class="statementplus-value"> <tbody><tr> <td class="statementplus-rank"><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Normal rank"><img alt="Normal rank" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/8px-Normal_rank.svg.png" decoding="async" width="8" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/12px-Normal_rank.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/16px-Normal_rank.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="8" data-file-height="20"/></span></span></td> <td class="statementplus-mainsnak"><a href="/wiki/Q81959" title="Q81959">Plankstadt</a></td> <td class="statementplus-editlink"><span>edit</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"><table dir="ltr" class="statementplus-block"> <tbody><tr> <td><del><a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form</a></del><ins><a href="/wiki/Property:P3831" title="Property:P3831">object of statement has role</a></ins></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Q44623403" class="mw-redirect" title="Q44623403">seat</a></td> </tr></tbody></table></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"> <div class="mw-collapsible innercollapse" id="mw-customcollapsible-435227"> <div class="statementplus-references-toggle mw-customtoggle-435227">0 references</div> <div class="mw-collapsible-content"><div class="statementplus-addreference">add reference</div> </div></div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr class="statementplus-addtoolbar"> <td> </td> <td class="statementplus-addtoolbar-tool">add value </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <dl><dd>Sauberer wäre der Vorschlag einer neuen Eigenschaft, dies müsste dann aber in größerem Plenum besprochen werden. Beste Grüße! --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20240123170000-Gonepteryx-20240122154400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20240123170000-Gonepteryx-20240122154400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20240123170000-Gonepteryx-20240122154400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonepteryx-20240123183400-Nw520-20240123170000"></span>Hallo Nw520, vielen Dank für den Hilfsvorschlag. Nach einigem Ausprobieren hab ich eine Lösung gefunden, wie sie nun im Datenobjekt steht. Seltsamerweise kann man <a href="/wiki/Q44623403" class="mw-redirect" title="Q44623403">seat <small>(Q44623403)</small></a> nur als Qualifikator, nicht jedoch als Aussage verwenden. Bei Verwendung von <a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a> als Qualifikator für den Vereinssitz kam wieder die Warnung vor einem „potenziellen Problem“, so wie es auch weiterhin bei der Aussage zum Vereinsregistereintrag der Fall ist. Alles in allem bleibt Wikidata irgendwie eine „black box“ für mich. <a href="/wiki/User:Gonepteryx" title="User:Gonepteryx">Gonepteryx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonepteryx" title="User talk:Gonepteryx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Gonepteryx-20240123183400-Nw520-20240123170000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonepteryx-20240123183400-Nw520-20240123170000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonepteryx-20240123183400-Nw520-20240123170000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20240124003000-Gonepteryx-20240123183400"></span>Hallo <a href="/wiki/User:Gonepteryx" title="User:Gonepteryx">Gonepteryx</a>, ich glaube hinsichtlich der <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary/de" title="Wikidata:Glossary/de">Terminologie</a> weichen wir etwas voneinander ab:</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="statementplus" style="" dir="ltr"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2273692885"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2080812426"><div class="navbar plainlinks hlist navbar-mini"><ul><li class="nv-view"><a href="/wiki/Template:Statement%2B" title="Template:Statement+"><abbr title="View this template">v</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-talk"><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Statement%2B" title="Template talk:Statement+"><abbr title="Discuss this template">t</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-edit"><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Statement%2B&action=edit"><abbr title="Edit this template">e</abbr></a></li></ul></div> <table> <tbody><tr> <td class="statementplus-property" rowspan="2">Eigenschaft/Prädikat <small style="font-size:85%;">(beginnt immer mit P)</small> </td> <td colspan="2"><table dir="ltr" class="statementplus-value"> <tbody><tr> <td class="statementplus-rank"><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Normal rank"><img alt="Normal rank" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/8px-Normal_rank.svg.png" decoding="async" width="8" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/12px-Normal_rank.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Normal_rank.svg/16px-Normal_rank.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="8" data-file-height="20"/></span></span></td> <td class="statementplus-mainsnak">Wert/Objekt <small style="font-size:85%;">(beginnt meist mit Q)</small></td> <td class="statementplus-editlink"><span>edit</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"><table dir="ltr" class="statementplus-block"> <tbody><tr> <td>Qualifikator-Eigenschaft <small style="font-size:85%;">(immer P)</small></td> <td>Qualifikator-Wert <small style="font-size:85%;">(meist Q)</small></td> </tr></tbody></table></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td colspan="2"> <div class="mw-collapsible innercollapse" id="mw-customcollapsible-891176"> <div class="statementplus-references-toggle mw-customtoggle-891176">0 references</div> <div class="mw-collapsible-content"><div class="statementplus-addreference">add reference</div> </div></div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr class="statementplus-addtoolbar"> <td> </td> <td class="statementplus-addtoolbar-tool">add value </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Prädikate und Qualifikator-Eigenschaften können nur Eigenschaften sein und die Kennungen für Eigenschaften beginnen alle mit „P“. Objekte/Werte sind in den meisten Fällen Datenobjekte, deren Kennungen mit „Q“ beginnen. <a href="/wiki/Q44623403" class="mw-redirect" title="Q44623403">seat <small>(Q44623403)</small></a> ist ein Datenobjekt und kann daher nur „auf der rechten Seite“ stehen, also als Wert; nicht aber als Prädikat genutzt werden.<br/>Eine Aussage ist alles mitsamt Eigenschaft und Wert (=Behauptung) sowie Qualifikatoren.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>In der Tat wirft <a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a> einen Fehler, ich habe stattdessen mal <a href="/wiki/Property:P3831" title="Property:P3831">object of statement has role <small dir="ltr">(P3831)</small></a> genutzt, da mir <a href="/wiki/Property:P276" title="Property:P276">location <small dir="ltr">(P276)</small></a> in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/2060503492" title="Special:Diff/2060503492">dem</a> Kontext nicht korrekt erschien. Das „Objekt“ in <a href="/wiki/Property:P3831" title="Property:P3831">object of statement has role <small dir="ltr">(P3831)</small></a> bezieht sich hier auf <span class="statement"><b class="subject">Subjekt</b><span class="predicate">Prädikat</span><span class="object">Objekt</span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130">, z.B. <span class="statement"><b class="subject"><a href="/wiki/Q31837984" title="Q31837984">Werteunion booster club <small>(Q31837984)</small></a></b><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P159" title="Property:P159">headquarters location <small>(P159)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q81959" title="Q81959">Plankstadt <small>(Q81959)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130">; somit lässt sich die Aussage verbalisieren als „Plankstadt fungiert als Satzungssitz der sog. Werteunion“.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Auf jeden Fall schon einmal besten Dank dafür, dass du dich auf Wikidata einlässt – kein leichtes Unterfangen, da stimmen dir sicherlich viele (auch hierzuwiki) zu. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20240124003000-Gonepteryx-20240123183400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20240124003000-Gonepteryx-20240123183400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20240124003000-Gonepteryx-20240123183400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop-20240319170700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop-20240319170700"></span>Invitation to participate in the WQT UI requirements elicitation online workshop<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop-20240319170700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Invitation to participate in the WQT UI requirements elicitation online workshop"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kholoudsaa-20240319170700-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop"></span>Dear Nw520, </p><p>I hope you are doing well, </p><p>We are a group of researchers from King’s College London working on developing WQT (Wikidata Quality Toolkit), which will support a diverse set of editors in curating and validating Wikidata content. </p><p>We are inviting you to participate in an online workshop aimed at understanding the requirements for designing effective and easy-to-use user interfaces (UI) for three tools within WQT that can support the daily activities of Wikidata editors: recommending items to edit based on their personal preferences, finding items that need better references, and generating entity schemas automatically for better item quality. </p><p>The main activity during this workshop will be UI mockup sketching. To facilitate this, we encourage you to attend the workshop using a tablet or laptop with PowerPoint installed or any other drawing tools you prefer. This will allow for a more interactive and productive session as we delve into the UI mockup sketching activities. </p><p>Participation is completely voluntary. You should only take part if you want to and choosing not to take part will not disadvantage you in any way. However, your cooperation will be valuable for the WQT design. Please note that all data and responses collected during the workshop will be used solely for the purpose of improving the WQT and understanding editor requirements. We will analyze the results in an anonymized form, ensuring your privacy is protected. Personal information will be kept confidential and will be deleted once it has served its purpose in this research. </p><p>The online workshop, which will be held on April 5th, should take no more than 3 hours. </p><p>If you agree to participate in this workshop, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form to register your interest <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://forms.office.com/e/9mrE8rXZVg">https://forms.office.com/e/9mrE8rXZVg</a> Then, I will contact you with all the instructions for the workshop. </p><p>For more information about my project, please read this page: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://king-s-knowledge-graph-lab.github.io/WikidataQualityToolkit/">https://king-s-knowledge-graph-lab.github.io/WikidataQualityToolkit/</a> </p><p>If you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me at the email address mentioned above. </p><p>Thank you for considering taking part in this project. </p><p>Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa" title="User:Kholoudsaa">Kholoudsaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kholoudsaa" title="User talk:Kholoudsaa"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Kholoudsaa-20240319170700-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 19 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kholoudsaa-20240319170700-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kholoudsaa-20240319170700-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="P31_with_legal_forms" data-mw-thread-id="h-P31_with_legal_forms-20240624183000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-P31_with_legal_forms-20240624183000"></span>P31 with legal forms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-P31_with_legal_forms-20240624183000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nw520&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: P31 with legal forms"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Newt713-20240624183000-P31_with_legal_forms"></span>Hey Nw520, regarding your revert at <a href="/wiki/Q124130431" title="Q124130431">Q124130431</a>. I think it is better so keep the values of <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> for legal forms at the highest possible level. In case of <a href="/wiki/Q124130431" title="Q124130431">Q124130431</a> that would be <a href="/wiki/Q10541491" title="Q10541491">legal form <small>(Q10541491)</small></a>. It is clear, that it's a <a href="/wiki/Q1269299" title="Q1269299">type of business entity <small>(Q1269299)</small></a> from its <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small dir="ltr">(P279)</small></a> values (<a href="/wiki/Help:Basic_membership_properties" title="Help:Basic membership properties">Help:Basic_membership_properties</a>). We have the same discussion with country specific values like <a href="/wiki/Q19335303" title="Q19335303">type of legal entity in Germany <small>(Q19335303)</small></a>, in the end, we would have to create "legal form for business entities in Germany" or "legal form for anonymous societies in Tunisia". In the same way, <a href="/wiki/Q567" title="Q567">Angela Merkel <small>(Q567)</small></a> is only <a href="/wiki/Q5" title="Q5">human <small>(Q5)</small></a> and not <a href="/wiki/Q82955" title="Q82955">politician <small>(Q82955)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Q183" title="Q183">Germany <small>(Q183)</small></a> is not a "country in Central Europe". Best <a href="/wiki/User:Newt713" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Newt713">Newt713</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Newt713" title="User talk:Newt713"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Newt713-20240624183000-P31_with_legal_forms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Newt713-20240624183000-P31_with_legal_forms"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Newt713-20240624183000-P31_with_legal_forms"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20240624230200-Newt713-20240624183000"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Newt713" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Newt713">Newt713</a>, you've only added <a href="/wiki/Q10541491" title="Q10541491">legal form <small>(Q10541491)</small></a> but not removed <a href="/wiki/Q1269299" title="Q1269299">type of business entity <small>(Q1269299)</small></a>. As the latter is a subclass of the former, <span class="statement"><b class="subject"><a href="/wiki/Q124130431" title="Q124130431">Q124130431</a></b><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small>(P31)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q10541491" title="Q10541491">legal form <small>(Q10541491)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130"> follows transitively and thus was redundant (as it was not qualified or had unique references). Not sure whether I'm on the same page with you here in terms of whether to use specific or generic classes but that wasn't the cause of my revert anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Nw520-20240624230200-Newt713-20240624183000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 24 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nw520-20240624230200-Newt713-20240624183000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nw520-20240624230200-Newt713-20240624183000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Newt713-20240625060700-Nw520-20240624230200"></span>Ah, you are right. I changed it and added the <a href="/wiki/Q106152815" title="Q106152815">ISO 20275 <small>(Q106152815)</small></a> as reference. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Newt713" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Newt713">Newt713</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Newt713" title="User talk:Newt713"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nw520#c-Newt713-20240625060700-Nw520-20240624230200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:07, 25 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Newt713-20240625060700-Nw520-20240624230200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Newt713-20240625060700-Nw520-20240624230200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: 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