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It happens that notes are being reopened a..." /> <meta property="og:article:section" content="Communities" /> <meta property="og:article:section:color" content="FFFFFF" /> <meta property="og:article:section" content="België / Belgique / Belgien (Belgium)" /> <meta property="og:article:section:color" content="FDDA24" /> <meta property="article:published_time" content="2024-11-23T19:31:34+00:00" /> <meta property="og:ignore_canonical" content="true" /> </head> <body class="crawler browser-update"> <header> <a href="/"> OpenStreetMap Community Forum </a> </header> <div id="main-outlet" class="wrap" role="main"> <div id="topic-title"> <h1> <a href="/t/how-do-we-become-more-effective-in-solving-notes-in-belgium/122045">How do we become more effective in solving notes in Belgium?</a> </h1> <div class="topic-category" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/BreadcrumbList"> <span itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem"> <a href="/c/communities/be/61" class="badge-wrapper bullet" itemprop="item"> <span class='badge-category-bg' style='background-color: #FFFFFF'></span> <span class='badge-category clear-badge'> <span class='category-name' itemprop='name'>Communities</span> </span> </a> <meta itemprop="position" content="1" /> </span> <span itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem"> <a href="/c/communities/be/61" class="badge-wrapper bullet" itemprop="item"> <span class='badge-category-bg' style='background-color: #FDDA24'></span> <span class='badge-category clear-badge'> <span class='category-name' itemprop='name'>België / Belgique / Belgien (Belgium)</span> </span> </a> <meta itemprop="position" content="2" /> </span> </div> </div> <div itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/DiscussionForumPosting'> <meta itemprop='headline' content='How do we become more effective in solving notes in Belgium?'> <link itemprop='url' href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/how-do-we-become-more-effective-in-solving-notes-in-belgium/122045'> <meta itemprop='datePublished' content='2024-11-23T19:31:34Z'> <meta itemprop='articleSection' content='België / Belgique / Belgien (Belgium)'> <meta itemprop='keywords' content=''> <div itemprop='publisher' itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Organization"> <meta itemprop='name' content='OpenStreetMap Foundation'> <div itemprop='logo' itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/ImageObject"> <meta itemprop='url' content='https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/2/20f6c7508cd8bb64ed4a4e5213b0bd3662479bfb.png'> </div> </div> <div id='post_1' class='topic-body crawler-post'> <div class='crawler-post-meta'> <span class="creator" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"> <a itemprop="url" href='https://community.openstreetmap.org/u/Thierry1030'><span itemprop='name'>Thierry1030</span></a> (Thierry1030) </span> <link itemprop="mainEntityOfPage" href="https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/how-do-we-become-more-effective-in-solving-notes-in-belgium/122045"> <span class="crawler-post-infos"> <time datetime='2024-11-23T19:31:34Z' class='post-time'> November 23, 2024, 7:31pm </time> <meta itemprop='dateModified' content='2024-11-23T19:31:34Z'> <span itemprop='position'>1</span> </span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <p>Hello everybody,</p> <p>According to the official OSM BE members meeting that took place in March 2024 a consensus was reached that it’s still important to focus on resolving the notes in Belgium.<br> At the end of 2023 there were still 3000 notes open.<br> Today (23/11/2024) there are only 1067 open notes, thanks to the work of some very active note solvers.</p> <p>Despite this hard work, there are some (older) notes (sometimes older than 2 years) that don’t get solved. It happens that notes are being reopened and commented without being clear what exactly needs to be mapped.<br> According to the wiki a note needs to be ‘clear in its message, for example consider that “<em>path wrong</em>” says very little of use, but “<em>The east-west path on the map does not exist on the ground</em>” is very clear.’<br> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes" class="onebox" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes</a></p> <p>On top of that in my eyes a note should only treat 1 topic that needs to be mapped.</p> <p>There are sometimes notes with the message “this street or this square has been refurbished, map everything what you can see on these street redesign plans or on the pictures I uploaded to Mapillary”.</p> <p>What’s your opinion about this issue?</p> <p>At the end we all want the same: data and a map that are up to date. How can we improve our way of communicating with each other?</p> <p>Here are some notes as an example:</p><aside class="onebox allowlistedgeneric" data-onebox-src="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3583711"> <header class="source"> <img src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f2abd44e74c01e6aa983e57705dbaf33509576b1.png" class="site-icon" data-dominant-color="B3CAA9" width="32" height="32"> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3583711" target="_blank" rel="noopener">OpenStreetMap</a> </header> <article class="onebox-body"> <img width="256" height="256" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8e8994ecda3adffd727fcb93140de68dd4de02d2.png" class="thumbnail onebox-avatar" data-dominant-color="B2C9A9"> <h3><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3583711" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Note: 3583711</a></h3> <p>OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.</p> </article> <div class="onebox-metadata"> </div> <div style="clear: both"></div> </aside> <aside class="onebox allowlistedgeneric" data-onebox-src="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3147443"> <header class="source"> <img src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f2abd44e74c01e6aa983e57705dbaf33509576b1.png" class="site-icon" data-dominant-color="B3CAA9" width="32" height="32"> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3147443" target="_blank" rel="noopener">OpenStreetMap</a> </header> <article class="onebox-body"> <img width="256" height="256" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8e8994ecda3adffd727fcb93140de68dd4de02d2.png" class="thumbnail onebox-avatar" data-dominant-color="B2C9A9"> <h3><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3147443" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Note: 3147443</a></h3> <p>OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.</p> </article> <div class="onebox-metadata"> </div> <div style="clear: both"></div> </aside> <aside class="onebox allowlistedgeneric" data-onebox-src="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4229115"> <header class="source"> <img src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f2abd44e74c01e6aa983e57705dbaf33509576b1.png" class="site-icon" data-dominant-color="B3CAA9" width="32" height="32"> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4229115" target="_blank" rel="noopener">OpenStreetMap</a> </header> <article class="onebox-body"> <img width="256" height="256" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8e8994ecda3adffd727fcb93140de68dd4de02d2.png" class="thumbnail onebox-avatar" data-dominant-color="B2C9A9"> <h3><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4229115" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Note: 4229115</a></h3> <p>OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.</p> </article> <div class="onebox-metadata"> </div> <div style="clear: both"></div> </aside> <aside class="onebox allowlistedgeneric" data-onebox-src="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4206353"> <header class="source"> <img src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f2abd44e74c01e6aa983e57705dbaf33509576b1.png" class="site-icon" data-dominant-color="B3CAA9" width="32" height="32"> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4206353" target="_blank" rel="noopener">OpenStreetMap</a> </header> <article class="onebox-body"> <img width="256" height="256" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8e8994ecda3adffd727fcb93140de68dd4de02d2.png" class="thumbnail onebox-avatar" data-dominant-color="B2C9A9"> <h3><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4206353" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Note: 4206353</a></h3> <p>OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.</p> </article> <div class="onebox-metadata"> </div> <div style="clear: both"></div> </aside> <aside class="onebox allowlistedgeneric" data-onebox-src="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2056247"> <header class="source"> <img src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f2abd44e74c01e6aa983e57705dbaf33509576b1.png" class="site-icon" data-dominant-color="B3CAA9" width="32" height="32"> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2056247" target="_blank" rel="noopener">OpenStreetMap</a> </header> <article class="onebox-body"> <img width="256" height="256" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8e8994ecda3adffd727fcb93140de68dd4de02d2.png" class="thumbnail onebox-avatar" data-dominant-color="B2C9A9"> <h3><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2056247" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Note: 2056247</a></h3> <p>OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open 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</span> </div> <div class='post' itemprop='text'> <aside class="quote no-group" data-username="Thierry1030" data-post="1" data-topic="122045"> <div class="title"> <div class="quote-controls"></div> <img loading="lazy" alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://community-cdn.openstreetmap.org/user_avatar/community.openstreetmap.org/thierry1030/48/21946_2.png" class="avatar"> Thierry1030:</div> <blockquote> <p>There are sometimes notes with the message “this street or this square has been refurbished, map everything what you can see on these street redesign plans or on the pictures I uploaded to Mapillary”.</p> </blockquote> </aside> <p>For me, primarily a cyclist and walker, those notes are useful, but in a different way : they provide ‘inspiration’ for locations to include in the itinerary going somewhere. Tend to copy ones where documenting can help to map to Garmin’s Basecamp desktop app, when setting out journey plan along notes, avoiding ways that were recently covered with the two helmet-mounted cameras.</p> <p>Upon return home first geotag the hand-held single pics and upload, either amending minor points as I go along, or adding to a note, or if larger job place note. Next review the helmet-cam-pics, remove ones looking down or standing still, will add to note <em>that</em> location was visited, and list main points to alter - unless small fry which can be added quickly. Pics are uploaded the night after, and eventually appear in the public view by which time - especially in the fair time of year - pics from several more trips are somewhere in the pipeline.</p> <p>In addition to the OSM notes maintain a uMap - currently with some of Joost’s NCCN queries, but also items from local news, or seen from the corner of the eye and in need of follow up - which is easy in uMap, as one can edit the description, add Mapillary references . .</p> <p>A closing note : Antwerpen, where I live, is unbelievably busy digging up roads, replacing utilities : can just about keep up with what goes on, document, find plans to help map, but there is a limit to also doing the mapping - there are other things in life, my aim, then, is to provide the info which can only be gathered on the spot, enabling others to map according to their speciality…</p> </div> <div itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/InteractionCounter"> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="http://schema.org/LikeAction"/> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <span class='post-likes'></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer class="container wrap"> <nav class='crawler-nav'> <ul> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='/' itemprop="url">Home </a> </span> </li> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='/categories' itemprop="url">Categories </a> </span> </li> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='/guidelines' itemprop="url">Guidelines </a> </span> </li> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use' itemprop="url">Terms of Service </a> </span> </li> <li itemscope itemtype='http://schema.org/SiteNavigationElement'> <span itemprop='name'> <a href='https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy' itemprop="url">Privacy Policy </a> </span> </li> </ul> </nav> <p class='powered-by-link'>Powered by <a href="https://www.discourse.org">Discourse</a>, best viewed with JavaScript enabled</p> </footer> <div class="buorg"><div>Unfortunately, <a href="https://www.discourse.org/faq/#browser">your browser is unsupported</a>. 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