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Trends in travel. Teens in trouble. If a topic is on your mind, chances are it’s on one of our podcasts. <a href="/featured-insights/mckinsey-podcast">The McKinsey Podcast</a> covers our newest and most provocative research, across our capabilities and industries worldwide. The five-year-old series, averaging 20 interviews a year, was recently awarded two gold medals by the<a href="https://www.w3award.com/winners/gallery/?event=1080&search=McKinsey"> Academy of Interactive & Visual Arts</a>, which is committed to fostering the future of traditional and interactive media.</p> <div data-component="mdc-c-module-wrapper" data-module-theme="default" data-module-background="transparent" data-module-category="" class="mck-c-disruptor1up mck-o-md-center mck-u-inline-module-border-top mck-u-inline-module-border-bottom mck-u-screen-only" data-layer-region="disruptor-1up"><div class="mdc-u-grid mdc-u-grid-gutter-md mdc-u-grid-col-lg-12 mdc-u-grid-col-md-12 "><div class="mdc-u-grid-col-md-span-12"><header data-component="mdc-c-header" class="mdc-c-header"><div class="mdc-c-header__block___i1Lg-_8032924"><h3 data-component="mdc-c-heading" class="mdc-c-heading___0fM1W_8032924"><div>Want to subscribe to <em>The McKinsey Podcast</em>?</div></h3></div></header><div data-component="mdc-c-link-container" class="mdc-c-link-container___xefGu_8032924 mdc-c-link-container--display-column___X0HDD_8032924 mck-c-disruptor1up__content Disruptor1Up_mck-c-disruptor1up__content--links__VV4lE mdc-u-grid-gutter-md"><a data-component="mdc-c-link" href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mckinsey-podcast/id285260960?mt=2" class="mdc-c-button___U4iY2_8032924 mdc-c-button--primary___Ed-lT_8032924 mdc-c-button--size-large___jwpUy_8032924" target="_blank"><span class="mdc-c-link__label___Pfqtd_8032924">Apple Podcasts</span></a><a data-component="mdc-c-link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4dyjRTP9xzEUPgleo6XjXI" class="mdc-c-button___U4iY2_8032924 mdc-c-button--primary___Ed-lT_8032924 mdc-c-button--size-large___jwpUy_8032924" target="_blank"><span class="mdc-c-link__label___Pfqtd_8032924">Spotify</span></a><a data-component="mdc-c-link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@McKinsey/podcasts" class="mdc-c-button___U4iY2_8032924 mdc-c-button--primary___Ed-lT_8032924 mdc-c-button--size-large___jwpUy_8032924" target="_blank"><span class="mdc-c-link__label___Pfqtd_8032924">YouTube</span></a><a data-component="mdc-c-link" href="/featured-insights/mckinsey-podcast" class="mdc-c-link-cta___NBQVi_8032924"><span class="mdc-c-link__label___Pfqtd_8032924">Listen to previous episodes</span><span data-component="mdc-c-icon" class="mdc-c-icon___oi7ef_8032924 mck-link-arrow-right-icon"></span></a></div></div></div></div> <p>The medals were in the Podcast category “General Series—Business and Consulting” and for the single episode <a href="/bem/our-insights/location-location-location-the-impact-of-place-on-racial-equity">“Location, location, location: The impact of place on racial equity.”</a> The McKinsey website was also awarded gold medals in the General Websites—Corporate Communications category.</p> <p>The McKinsey Podcast is hosted by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/luciarahilly/">Lucia Rahilly</a>, global editorial director, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberta-fusaro-70ba47/">Roberta Fusaro</a>, editorial director, with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurel-moglen-9a88b23/">Laurel Moglen</a>, managing producer and editor, all of McKinsey Global Publishing.</p> <p> “The McKinsey Podcast started as an effort to amplify the timeliest and most differentiated research we publish in any given year,” explains Lucia. “Then, in 2020, the pandemic hit and disrupted so many things, and gave us the opportunity to rethink our format to become more innovative.” Evidently it's working: in 2024 alone, it has driven 3 million downloads on audio players like Apple Podcasts and Spotify, as well as an additional 1.2 million transcript reads on McKinsey.com.</p> <p>A big part of a successful podcast is keeping the conversation relaxed and casual, so that the audience feels almost like they’re eavesdropping. How do the co-hosts put participants at ease? Preparation is one factor, according to Roberta, and they often invite guests to suggest questions and angles. “This builds trust because they help to shape the dialogue,” she says. “With introductions all the way around, including the production crew, and an opening joke or two, we try to make the dynamic as conversational as possible.” </p> <p>In case you missed them, here are excerpts from three podcasts this year. </p> <h3><a href="/bem/our-insights/location-location-location-the-impact-of-place-on-racial-equity">Location, location, location: the impact of place on racial equity</a></h3> <div data-component="mdc-c-module-wrapper" data-module-theme="default" data-module-background="transparent" data-module-category="" class="mck-o-sm-right-span Image_mck-c-image__fhx5v"><picture data-component="mdc-c-picture" class="Image_mck-c-image__img-container__JusDB"><img alt="A photo JP Julien, a McKinsey partner " src="/~/media/mckinsey/about%20us/mckinsey%20blog/meet%20the%20hosts%20behind%20mckinseys%20award%20winning%20podcast/podcast-inline-jp-1536x1536.jpg?cq=50&mw=767&cpy=Center" loading="lazy"/></picture><div class="mck-u-sr-only">A photo JP Julien, a McKinsey partner </div></div> <p><strong>JP Julien, a McKinsey partner:</strong> When I was nine, we moved maybe a ten-mile drive down the Garden State Parkway to a middle-class suburb…Overnight the quality of my school improved. My mom’s commute to work dropped by an hour. We had a grocery store and a bank just minutes away. That was all made possible by my parents and my aunt and uncle pooling their funds and purchasing a two-family home in the suburbs. As a nine-year-old, I immediately saw the difference that an address could make. It had a huge impact…Place matters in economic mobility. </p>  <h3><a href="/bem/our-insights/location-location-location-the-impact-of-place-on-racial-equity"></a><a href="/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-to-be-a-better-chief-of-staff">How to be a better chief of staff</a></h3> <div data-component="mdc-c-module-wrapper" data-module-theme="default" data-module-background="transparent" data-module-category="" class="mck-o-sm-right-span Image_mck-c-image__fhx5v"><picture data-component="mdc-c-picture" class="Image_mck-c-image__img-container__JusDB"><img alt="Photo of Andrew Goodman, a McKinsey senior partner" src="/~/media/mckinsey/about%20us/mckinsey%20blog/meet%20the%20hosts%20behind%20mckinseys%20award%20winning%20podcast/podcast-inline-andrew-1536x1536.jpg?cq=50&mw=767&cpy=Center" loading="lazy"/></picture><div class="mck-u-sr-only">Photo of Andrew Goodman, a McKinsey senior partner</div></div> <p><strong>Andrew Goodman, a McKinsey senior partner:</strong> The chief of staff (COS)…keeps a finger on the pulse of the organization to help give a bit of a “Spidey sense” or peripheral vision for the CEO to understand what’s going on in the company. </p> <p>Any COS or CEO should have five to six priorities…two or three being your “tuxedo agenda,” the outward-facing priorities that you have, and two or three being your “pajama agenda,” things that were inward facing and about how the company or organization works. I really liked that idea as a way of thinking about priorities. </p>  <h3><a href="/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-to-be-a-better-chief-of-staff"></a><a href="/industries/travel/our-insights/a-new-itinerary-for-the-tourism-industry">A new itinerary for the tourism industry</a></h3> <div data-component="mdc-c-module-wrapper" data-module-theme="default" data-module-background="transparent" data-module-category="" class="mck-o-sm-right-span Image_mck-c-image__fhx5v"><picture data-component="mdc-c-picture" class="Image_mck-c-image__img-container__JusDB"><img alt="Photo of Margaux Constantin, a McKinsey partner" src="/~/media/mckinsey/about%20us/mckinsey%20blog/meet%20the%20hosts%20behind%20mckinseys%20award%20winning%20podcast/podcast-inline-margaux-1536x1536.jpg?cq=50&mw=767&cpy=Center" loading="lazy"/></picture><div class="mck-u-sr-only">Photo of Margaux Constantin, a McKinsey partner</div></div> <p><strong>Margaux Constantin, a McKinsey partner:</strong> For travelers from the United Arab Emirates, there is…a strong preference…to visit iconic [bucket list] destinations. But what they’re really after are active, sport-heavy holidays—being outdoors, hiking, and doing some sort of exercise. On the other end, Europeans and North Americans are a lot more homogeneous in their preferences; 40 percent see their vacations as a way to just get away from it all…and the best way…is the traditional beach holiday, which remains the top destination for those markets. </p> </div></div><aside class="mdc-u-grid-col-lg-start-11 mdc-u-grid-col-lg-span-2 BlogEntryContent_mck-c-blog-entry-content__side-bar__YsMpJ"><section class="RelatedBlogPosts_mck-c-related-blog-posts__GnKmg"><h3 data-component="mdc-c-heading" class="mdc-c-heading___0fM1W_8032924 mdc-c-heading--title___5qyOB_8032924 mdc-c-heading--border___K8dj3_8032924 mdc-u-ts-5">related</h3><div data-component="mdc-c-module-wrapper" data-module-theme="light" data-module-background="white" data-module-category="" class="BlogItem_mck-c-blog-item__A6TBP BlogItem_mck-c-blog-item--transparent-bg__UXfdT mck-u-animation-slide-up"><div data-component="mdc-c-content-block" class="mdc-c-content-block___7p6Lu_8032924 BlogItem_mck-c-blog-item__text-container__WEEHk BlogItem_mck-c-blog-item__text-container--related__VjvZk"><h4 data-component="mdc-c-heading" class="mdc-c-heading___0fM1W_8032924 mdc-u-ts-6"><a data-component="mdc-c-link" href="/about-us/new-at-mckinsey-blog/a-first-step-to-racial-equality-fundamentally-improve-the-jobs-we-have-today" class="mdc-c-link-heading___Zggl8_8032924 mdc-c-link___lBbY1_8032924">A first step to racial equality? “Fundamentally improve job quality.”</a></h4><div data-component="mdc-c-description" class="mdc-c-description___SrnQP_8032924">JP Julien explains why new research on racial inequality is personal and talks about the innovative programs that are showing results.</div></div></div></section></aside></div></div></div><div data-component="mdc-c-module-wrapper" data-module-theme="light" data-module-background="lightest-grey" data-module-category="StandalonePromo" class="BlogPromo_mck-c-blog-promo__hSsYu BlogPromo_mck-c-blog-promo--full-width__pKXqL mck-u-animation-slide-up BlogEntryContent_mck-c-blog-entry-content__promobar___qKLu" data-layer-region="blog-one-click-module"><div data-component="mdc-c-content-block" class="mdc-c-content-block___7p6Lu_8032924 mdc-u-grid-gutter-lg"><div class="mck-o-container"><div data-component="mdc-c-content-block" class="mdc-c-content-block___7p6Lu_8032924 mdc-u-grid-gutter-lg mck-o-container--wrapped mck-o-container--mobile-spacing BlogPromo_mck-c-blog-promo__content__31yfC BlogPromo_mck-c-blog-promo__content--center__JdBp3"><div class="mdc-u-align-center"><h3 data-component="mdc-c-heading" class="mdc-c-heading___0fM1W_8032924 mdc-u-ts-3">Never miss a story</h3><div data-component="mdc-c-description" class="mdc-c-description___SrnQP_8032924 mdc-u-ts-7 BlogPromo_mck-c-blog-promo__description__bquDK">Stay updated about McKinsey news as it happens</div></div><div class="BlogPromo_mck-c-blog-promo__form-wrapper__bLL16"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></main></div><script id="__NEXT_DATA__" type="application/json">{"props":{"pageProps":{"locale":"en","dictionary":{},"sitecoreContext":{"route":{"name":"Meet the hosts behind McKinseys award winning podcast","displayName":"Meet the hosts behind McKinseys award winning podcast","fields":null,"databaseName":"web","deviceId":"fe5d7fdf-89c0-4d99-9aa3-b5fbd009c9f3","itemId":"522d7528-fa5c-4544-9f70-a9a24871c375","itemLanguage":"en","itemVersion":1,"layoutId":"ae753eb4-a035-40b4-83bf-4b4438df6742","templateId":"d929136a-019a-4786-8072-3e3a60b2f31c","templateName":"Blog Entry","placeholders":{"jss-main":[{"uid":"e18e4703-f541-45d8-89c1-d5d8407f1708","componentName":"BlogEntry","dataSource":"","fields":{"data":{"blogEntry":{"title":{"jsonValue":{"value":"Meet the hosts behind McKinsey’s award-winning podcast"}},"sEOTitle":{"value":""},"description":{"jsonValue":{"value":"What makes for a successful podcast? 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The five-year-old series, averaging 20 interviews a year, was recently awarded two gold medals by the\u003ca href=\"https://www.w3award.com/winners/gallery/?event=1080\u0026amp;search=McKinsey\"\u003e Academy of Interactive \u0026amp; Visual Arts\u003c/a\u003e, which is committed to fostering the future of traditional and interactive media.\u003c/p\u003e\n[[disruptor1Up globalpodcast]]\n\u003cp\u003eThe medals were in the Podcast category \u0026ldquo;General Series\u0026mdash;Business and Consulting\u0026rdquo; and for the single episode \u003ca href=\"/bem/our-insights/location-location-location-the-impact-of-place-on-racial-equity\"\u003e\u0026ldquo;Location, location, location: The impact of place on racial equity.\u0026rdquo;\u003c/a\u003e\u0026nbsp;The McKinsey website was also awarded gold medals in the General Websites\u0026mdash;Corporate Communications category.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eThe McKinsey Podcast is hosted by \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/luciarahilly/\"\u003eLucia Rahilly\u003c/a\u003e, global editorial director, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberta-fusaro-70ba47/\"\u003eRoberta Fusaro\u003c/a\u003e, editorial director, with\u0026nbsp;\u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurel-moglen-9a88b23/\"\u003eLaurel Moglen\u003c/a\u003e, managing producer and editor, all of McKinsey Global Publishing.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u0026ldquo;The McKinsey Podcast started as an effort to amplify the timeliest and most differentiated research we publish in any given year,\u0026rdquo;\u0026nbsp;explains Lucia. \u0026ldquo;Then, in 2020, the pandemic hit and disrupted so many things, and gave us the opportunity to rethink our format to become more innovative.\u0026rdquo; Evidently it's working: in 2024 alone, it has driven 3 million downloads on audio players like Apple Podcasts and Spotify, as well as an additional 1.2 million transcript reads on McKinsey.com.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eA big part of a successful podcast is keeping the conversation relaxed and casual, so that the audience feels almost like they\u0026rsquo;re eavesdropping. 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