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Sections older than <b>28 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 4 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Songs_on_Website??" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Songs_on_Website??"><span id="New_Songs_on_Website.3F.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Songs_on_Website??"></span>New Songs on Website??<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Songs_on_Website??"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ryan_Adams&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: New Songs on Website??"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>On Adams' new website, there is a section called "cardinal radio" which enables you to play thru a few albums... there is one "album" there called "you are the audience"... with a bunch of weird songs... that i've never heard before... is this new material or am i just not that big a fan? ? if so, wiki should be updated -Amo </p><p>Yes, Adams recently released 11 new albums on his website. Read about it [here]<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.dose.ca/music/story.html?id=8f3152b0-ccbb-489b-ba4d-4ebffb072afd&k=76376">[1]</a> I propose we add a section to the page covering this, as releasing 11 new albums at once is unheard of. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Associated_acts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Associated_acts-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Associated_acts-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z"></span>Associated acts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Associated_acts-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ryan_Adams&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Associated acts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z-Associated_acts"></span>The associated acts in this article's infobox don't seem to follow the <a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_musical_artist/doc#associated_acts" title="Template:Infobox musical artist/doc">documentation</a> at all. His bands make perfect sense and I don't object to them being included. But the rest? </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Jason_Isbell" title="Jason Isbell">Jason Isbell</a> is questionable. While it's true that both artists have toured together and had a close friendship at one point,<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> last time I checked, being (former) friends was not a criterion for associated acts. Otherwise, it would be a huge mess.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Taylor_Swift" title="Taylor Swift">Taylor Swift</a> makes little sense. Ryan <a href="/wiki/1989_(Ryan_Adams_album)" title="1989 (Ryan Adams album)">covering</a> her <a href="/wiki/1989_(Taylor_Swift_album)" class="mw-redirect" title="1989 (Taylor Swift album)">album</a> does not make her an associated act. They did write music together for the <i><a href="/wiki/Red_(Taylor_Swift_album)" title="Red (Taylor Swift album)">Red</a></i> sessions, but never released it.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> With <i><a href="/wiki/Red_(Taylor%27s_Version)" title="Red (Taylor's Version)">Red (Taylor's Version)</a></i> coming up, who knows what will happen to this music, but for now, this seems flimsy and premature.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/John_Mayer" title="John Mayer">John Mayer</a> is a somewhat similar (though not identical) situation to Jason Isbell, in that they're (likely former) friends and have shared the stage.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> It is true that John <b>has</b> played guitar on "Fuck the Rain", or at least the 2019 version of it,<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> and possibly "Dreaming You Backwards" (this one seems to be mostly <a href="/wiki/Reddit" title="Reddit">Reddit</a> speculation),<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> but that amounts to <a href="/wiki/Session_musician" title="Session musician">session musician</a> work and I don't think that warrants associated act status.</li></ul> <p>At least this is my understanding of associated acts. Before removing these people or otherwise making changes to the associated acts field, I would like to reach a consensus. I know that associated acts can be contentious (see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Ariana_Grande" title="Talk:Ariana Grande">Ariana Grande's talk page</a>) so I would like to preemptively ask that everyone <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIVIL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIVIL">remain civil</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bizarre_Bizarre" title="User:Bizarre Bizarre">Bizarre Bizarre</a></b><sup><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bizarre_Bizarre" title="User talk:Bizarre Bizarre">Talk modern to me</a></i></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ryan_Adams#c-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z-Associated_acts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 10 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z-Associated_acts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z-Associated_acts"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DFS-2021-07-28T15:35:00.000Z-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z"></span>I agree with omitting all three of them, they do not meet the criteria, IMO. I would add Willie Nelson because <a href="/wiki/Songbird_(Willie_Nelson_album)" title="Songbird (Willie Nelson album)">Songbird (Willie Nelson album)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:DFS" title="User:DFS">DFS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DFS" title="User talk:DFS">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ryan_Adams#c-DFS-2021-07-28T15:35:00.000Z-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DFS-2021-07-28T15:35:00.000Z-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DFS-2021-07-28T15:35:00.000Z-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-07-10T19:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-08-09T22:42:00.000Z-DFS-2021-07-28T15:35:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for your feedback. I think Willie Nelson would also not fit, as the documentation asks to avoid "association of producers, managers, etc. (who are themselves acts) with other acts". As it's been a month and <i>Red (Taylor's Version)</i> is confirmed not to include the Ryan song, I will remove those acts. They can be readded if further discussion takes place later. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bizarre_Bizarre" title="User:Bizarre Bizarre">Bizarre Bizarre</a></b><sup><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bizarre_Bizarre" title="User talk:Bizarre Bizarre">Talk modern to me</a></i></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ryan_Adams#c-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-08-09T22:42:00.000Z-DFS-2021-07-28T15:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-08-09T22:42:00.000Z-DFS-2021-07-28T15:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bizarre_Bizarre-2021-08-09T22:42:00.000Z-DFS-2021-07-28T15:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFGarner2013" class="citation news cs1">Garner, Dwight (31 May 2013). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/02/magazine/jason-isbell-unloaded.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0">"Jason Isbell, Unloaded"</a>. <i><a href="/wiki/The_New_York_Times" title="The New York Times">The New York Times</a></i><span class="reference-accessdate">. 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Retrieved <span class="nowrap">10 July</span> 2021</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=AP+News&rft.atitle=Ryan+Adams+teams+up+with+John+Mayer+on+new+album&rft.date=2019-01-18&rft.au=Celebretainment&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fapnews.com%2Farticle%2Fb4b3bf9680074737b2c30d96f9d3d79a&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3ARyan+Adams" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-4">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFKreps2019" class="citation news cs1">Kreps, Daniel (23 January 2019). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ryan-adams-john-mayer-new-song-fck-the-rain-783166/">"Ryan Adams Enlists John Mayer for New Song 'Fuck the Rain'<span class="cs1-kern-right"></span>"</a>. <i><a href="/wiki/Rolling_Stone" title="Rolling Stone">Rolling Stone</a></i><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">10 July</span> 2021</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Rolling+Stone&rft.atitle=Ryan+Adams+Enlists+John+Mayer+for+New+Song+%27Fuck+the+Rain%27&rft.date=2019-01-23&rft.aulast=Kreps&rft.aufirst=Daniel&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fmusic%2Fmusic-news%2Fryan-adams-john-mayer-new-song-fck-the-rain-783166%2F&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3ARyan+Adams" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-5">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ryanadams/comments/kbxz05/2_versions_of_dreaming_you_backwards_confirmed/">"2 Versions of Dreaming You Backwards confirmed; speculated to be John Mayer on this one (UK Apple Music) & Ryan on the other official versions. [Video from FB]"</a>. <i><a href="/wiki/Reddit" title="Reddit">Reddit</a></i><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">10 July</span> 2021</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=Reddit&rft.atitle=2+Versions+of+Dreaming+You+Backwards+confirmed%3B+speculated+to+be+John+Mayer+on+this+one+%28UK+Apple+Music%29+%26+Ryan+on+the+other+official+versions.+%5BVideo+from+FB%5D&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fryanadams%2Fcomments%2Fkbxz05%2F2_versions_of_dreaming_you_backwards_confirmed%2F&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3ARyan+Adams" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sexual_misconduct_and_FBI_investigation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sexual_misconduct_and_FBI_investigation-20221022041400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sexual_misconduct_and_FBI_investigation-20221022041400"></span>Sexual misconduct and FBI investigation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sexual_misconduct_and_FBI_investigation-20221022041400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ryan_Adams&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Sexual misconduct and FBI investigation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HeighHoTheHolly-20221022041400-Sexual_misconduct_and_FBI_investigation"></span>The article summary states that "the release of [his] albums was indefinitely delayed after seven women came forward with <a href="/wiki/Sexual_misconduct" title="Sexual misconduct">sexual misconduct</a> allegations against him. He later issued an apology, and the FBI cleared him of any potential criminal charges." However, as the section on the allegations describes it, the aforementioned FBI investigation was related to allegations that "Adams had committed a crime by engaging in sexually explicit communications with an underage fan"--there is no mention of the FBI clearing him of other sexual misconduct charges. Cf. LA Magazine: "nothing was found to prove a pattern of illegal behavior with underage girls, and the investigation was dropped in the fall of 2019. Adams’s lawyer was informed by the FBI in a phone call soon after."<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>In my view the article summary invites readers to infer that the FBI's investigation was broader than it actually was, incorrectly suggesting that the FBI actively cleared Adams of charges relating to the unrelated allegations brought by <a href="/wiki/Phoebe_Bridgers" title="Phoebe Bridgers">Phoebe Bridgers</a>, Mandy Moore and others. Ought/could the wording be changed to better reflect the reality of the situation? -- <a href="/wiki/User:HeighHoTheHolly" title="User:HeighHoTheHolly"><span style="color: darkgreen">HeighHo</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HeighHoTheHolly" title="User talk:HeighHoTheHolly">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ryan_Adams#c-HeighHoTheHolly-20221022041400-Sexual_misconduct_and_FBI_investigation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:14, 22 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HeighHoTheHolly-20221022041400-Sexual_misconduct_and_FBI_investigation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HeighHoTheHolly-20221022041400-Sexual_misconduct_and_FBI_investigation"></span> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1232521257"><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1239543626"><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-6"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-6">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFAppleford2021" class="citation web cs1">Appleford, Steve (9 August 2021). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/ryan-adams/">"Exclusive: Ryan Adams: 'I Felt Like They Were Asking Me to Die'<span class="cs1-kern-right"></span>"</a>. <i><a href="/wiki/Los_Angeles_(magazine)" title="Los Angeles (magazine)">Los Angeles (magazine)</a></i><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">21 October</span> 2022</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=Los+Angeles+%28magazine%29&rft.atitle=Exclusive%3A+Ryan+Adams%3A+%E2%80%98I+Felt+Like+They+Were+Asking+Me+to+Die%E2%80%99&rft.date=2021-08-09&rft.aulast=Appleford&rft.aufirst=Steve&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lamag.com%2Fculturefiles%2Fryan-adams%2F&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3ARyan+Adams" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FBI_Investigation" data-mw-thread-id="h-FBI_Investigation-20230531201200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FBI_Investigation-20230531201200"></span>FBI Investigation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FBI_Investigation-20230531201200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ryan_Adams&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: FBI Investigation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemov-20230531201200-FBI_Investigation"></span>I removed the allegations related to the minor since it appears nothing came of it and the accuser changed their story.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/ryan-adams/">[2]</a> I realize this is a bold change, but seems to fit with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME</a> to error on the side of caution regarding serious allegations. Obviously some may disagree, but this article could use some summarizing. <a href="/wiki/User:Nemov" title="User:Nemov">Nemov</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nemov" title="User talk:Nemov">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ryan_Adams#c-Nemov-20230531201200-FBI_Investigation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 31 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemov-20230531201200-FBI_Investigation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemov-20230531201200-FBI_Investigation"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ryan_Adams&oldid=1197988659">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ryan_Adams&oldid=1197988659</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Biography_articles_of_living_people" title="Category:Biography articles of living people">Biography articles of living people</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_biography_articles" title="Category:B-Class biography articles">B-Class biography articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_biography_(musicians)_articles" title="Category:B-Class biography (musicians) articles">B-Class biography (musicians) articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Low-importance_biography_(musicians)_articles" title="Category:Low-importance biography (musicians) articles">Low-importance biography (musicians) articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Musicians_work_group_articles" title="Category:Musicians work group articles">Musicians work group articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Biography_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Biography articles">WikiProject Biography articles</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Noindexed_pages" title="Category:Noindexed pages">Noindexed pages</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 22 January 2024, at 17:51<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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