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class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HISPAGES" title="Wikipedia:HISPAGES"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Historical.svg/30px-Historical.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="38" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Historical.svg/45px-Historical.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Historical.svg/60px-Historical.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="140" data-file-height="177"></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><b>This page is currently inactive and is retained for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HISPAGES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HISPAGES">historical</a> reference.</b><br><span style="font-size: 90%">Either the page is no longer relevant or consensus on its purpose has become unclear. To revive discussion, seek broader input via a forum such as the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)">village pump</a>.</span> <span style="font-size: 90%"> </span></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>The deletion procedure on Wikipedia, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion</a>, has recently come under harsh criticism from many users on Wikipedia, and there seems to be a general opinion in the community that it has to be somehow replaced or changed. This page is an effort to coordinate the different discussions and make it into a coherent, readable format. </p> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Background"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Background</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Ideas/Suggestions"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Ideas/Suggestions</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Current_proposals_for_a_new_system"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Current proposals for a new system</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Historical_proposals"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Historical proposals</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#General_comments"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">General comments</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#See_also"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">See also</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Background" data-mw-thread-id="h-Background"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Background"></span>Background<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Background"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_reform&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Background" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <p>Anyone can edit Wikipedia. They can create, extend, correct, change, revamp, trim and rename pages freely. The only thing they can't do is freely delete pages. Unlike these other types of editing, deleting a page is more severe, and harder to correct for mistakes or vandalism. </p><p>This is because removing a page from Wikipedia removes the history of the page. Even if the page text is somehow restored, the edit history of all the contributors is still lost, which can violate Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/GFDL" class="mw-redirect" title="GFDL">GFDL</a> rules. </p><p>To prevent this, from very early on in Wikipedia, page deletion was reserved only to editors who (in theory) are less likely to delete pages by mistake or vandalism. These select few are called <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">admins</a>. Over time, rules have developed about how and when editors become admins, and rules about how and when admins can use their privileged ability to delete. There are also many special additions to the Wikipedia software engine to handle listing, reviewing, and restoring of deleted pages. </p><p>As a method of allowing ordinary editors to still participate in this exclusive activity, the Votes for Deletion (VfD) system, now renamed as Articles for Deletion (AfD), evolved. This is a forum (now a series of forums based on types of pages), where anyone can suggest pages be deleted, and others agree or disagree. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_Deletion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion">Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion</a> works on the system that one user lists the page they want deleted on a subpage of the main deletion page, they put a template on the page specifying that the page is under consideration for deletion and then a vote/discussion takes place where a consensus decision is attempted. Eventually, an admin reviews the whole discussion, and may delete the page. </p><p>Although there are many editors that spend a lot of their time on Wikipedia participating in AfD, most also think the system can be improved in some way. This may be because AfD is dissimilar to the way the rest of Wikipedia works: without <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_access_levels" title="Wikipedia:User access levels">classes of editors</a>, without voting, and without its own special centralized system. </p><p><br> </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Pros_and_cons_of_current_system" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Pros and cons of current system">Advantages and problems of current system</a></b></li></ul> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Ideas/Suggestions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ideas/Suggestions"><span id="Ideas.2FSuggestions"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ideas/Suggestions"></span>Ideas/Suggestions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ideas/Suggestions"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_reform&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Ideas/Suggestions" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <p>These are areas being brainstormed by the community. They are not complete, specific proposals, nor are they necessarily mutually exclusive, but categories for ideas. </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Decentralise" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Decentralisation</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Removing a central page for discussion</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Categoriseify" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Categorization</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Using templates to include an article in a category and have the relevant discussion on the article's talk page.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Remove_or_simplify_voting" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Remove or simplify voting</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Keeping the system, but reform the voting-procedures</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Change_powers" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Change powers</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Changing the role of the administrator in AfD</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Specialised_policies/precedents" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Specialised policies/precedents</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Make specialized policies for inclusion or deletion for different subjects, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MUSIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MUSIC">WP:MUSIC</a> for instance</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Information" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Information</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Change how the current system displays information to easily see how each vote is going</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Move_things_more_quickly" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Move things more quickly</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Different ideas for how the current system can be done more expediently, such as removal of AfDs with clear consensus.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Policy</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Different ways of making AfD policy instead of a procedure and how that would affect the system</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Remove_notable_requirement" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Remove notable requirement</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Prevent articles from being deleted solely for being "non-notable"</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Brainstorming#Other" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Brainstorming">Other</a></b></li></ul> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Current_proposals_for_a_new_system" data-mw-thread-id="h-Current_proposals_for_a_new_system"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Current_proposals_for_a_new_system"></span>Current proposals for a new system<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Current_proposals_for_a_new_system"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_reform&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Current proposals for a new system" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> <p>These are the proposals that are or were active, as of March 2006. </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Amendment_to_deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Amendment to deletion policy">Wikipedia:Amendment to deletion policy</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Disallow content as a criterion for deletion, replacing it with topic.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><s><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting">Categorized deletion</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DS">WP:DS</a>)</b></s></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>A project to create a workable system for Deletion sorting.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Pure_wiki_deletion_system" title="Wikipedia:Pure wiki deletion system">The Pure Wiki Deletion System</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PWDS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PWDS">WP:PWDS</a>)</b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Allow article blanking as uncontested deletion method. ( Optional and reversable precursor to AfD )</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><s><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/Uncontested_deletions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/Uncontested deletions">Uncontested deletions</a></b></s></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Allow articles marked for deletion to be deleted without AfD if uncontested. ( Optional and reversable precursor to AfD )</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Transparent_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Transparent deletion">Wikipedia:Transparent deletion</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>This is based on one idea only: deletions should be a normal part of article history, visible to all, rather than being a special case.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">Wikipedia:Proposed deletion</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>In testing. If proposed deletion uncontested after 7 days, no need for AfD.</dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Historical_proposals" data-mw-thread-id="h-Historical_proposals"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Historical_proposals"></span>Historical proposals<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Historical_proposals"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_reform&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Historical proposals" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <p>These proposals have either been inactive for a few weeks or have been specifically withdrawn. </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/Prioritization_and_Noticeability" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/Prioritization and Noticeability">Prioritization and Noticeability</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>A minimalistic, easy to implement system which focuses on increasing the number of votes in a given time, and prioritizing AFDs.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Requests for deletion">Requests for deletion</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Add a category to the article and present your case on the talk page.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/Butt_simple" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/Butt simple">The butt-simple option</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>A variation on Requests for Deletion which simplifies many procedures</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/Votes_for_Deletion,_the_next_generation" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/Votes for Deletion, the next generation">Votes for Deletion, the next generation</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Heavily revising the procedures for the current system, for instance moving votes to talk pages and introducing binary voting, ie either delete or keep.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/DPL_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/DPL deletion">DPL deletion</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>A mix between <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Requests for deletion">Wikipedia:Requests for deletion</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_Deletion,_the_next_generation" title="Wikipedia:Votes for Deletion, the next generation">Wikipedia:Votes for Deletion, the next generation</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/UninvitedCompany%27s_suggestion" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/UninvitedCompany's suggestion">Uninvited Company's suggestion</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Establishing firm rules for articles on different topics and other ideas.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/Speedy_redirect" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/Speedy redirect">Speedy redirect</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Pre-emptive redirects. This was an idea; now it's a proposal</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/Small_fixes" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/Small fixes">Small fixes</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Use daily article categories and have discussion on talk pages, and a little more.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/Gazpacho%27s_proposal" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/Gazpacho's proposal">Gazpacho's proposal</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Move to categories and talk pages, binary voting, any user can close and admin s review if requested</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_System_sketch" title="Wikipedia:Version System sketch">Version System</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Proposed system whereby all articles get a numerical rating and poor scores are automatically placed on the AfD page (after enough time and votes).</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><s><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Xaa%27s_Proposal" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Xaa's Proposal">Xaa's Proposal</a></b></s></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><s>Understanding where the system is breaking down, streamline AfD by eliminating much of the guesswork and opinion/adjudication required by the process.</s> Withdrawn at the request of <a href="/wiki/User:Amorrow" title="User:Amorrow">Amorrow</a>, please see this article's <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Xaa%27s_Proposal">Talk Page</a>. (Note: Xaa is being stalked by <a href="/wiki/User:Amorrow" title="User:Amorrow">Amorrow</a>, and wishes to avoid further confrontations.)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/-Ril-%27s_suggestion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/-Ril-'s suggestion">-Ril-'s suggestion</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Similar proposal to the version system sketch, but more automated, applying to every version, and without AfD</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/-Ril-%27s_alternative_suggestion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/-Ril-'s alternative suggestion">-Ril-'s alternative suggestion</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Variation on the version system sketch, whereby randomly selected editors have the ability to say that a version is better or worse than it could be, the random selection of editors being changed every 2 hours, with better (determined by scores for versions they have worked on) editors having more chance of being selected, and no AfD</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_Deletion/Proposals/The_Karmafist_Plan" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Votes for Deletion/Proposals/The Karmafist Plan">The Karmafist Plan</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>A clarification of user's choices and administrator's powers.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/Proposals/Speedy_delete_for_pages_with_no_citations" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/Speedy delete for pages with no citations">Speedy Delete For Pages With No Citations</a></b></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Reduce the number of articles that need to go through AFD by adding a new speedy deletion criteria requiring at least one citation for any new page.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_requests" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Deletion requests">Wikipedia:Deletion requests</a></b> (as far as I know, this was never proposed to the community at large)</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Countdown_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Countdown deletion">Wikipedia:Countdown_deletion</a></b></li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Expeditious_deletion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Expeditious deletion">Wikipedia:Expeditious deletion</a></b></li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Preliminary_Deletion" title="Wikipedia:Preliminary Deletion">Wikipedia:Preliminary Deletion</a></b> (only proposal to gather anything near a majority)</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Managed_Deletion" title="Wikipedia:Managed Deletion">Wikipedia:Managed Deletion</a></b></li></ul> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="General_comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-General_comments"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-General_comments"></span>General comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-General_comments"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_reform&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: General comments" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <p>If you wish to make general comments or participate in the discussion, you can do so <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform/General_Comments" title="Wikipedia:Deletion reform/General Comments">here</a></b>. 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