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"content": "\u003Csection data-mw-section-id=\"0\" data-parsoid=\"{}\"\u003E\u003Cp data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[0,451,0,0]}\"\u003EA \u003Ca href=\"/wiki/Discussi%C3%B3:Font_de_la_Pla%C3%A7a_d%27Espanya#Maj\u0026#xFA;scules\" title=\"Discussi\u0026#xF3;:Font de la Pla\u0026#xE7;a d'Espanya\" rel=\"mw:WikiLink\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;stx\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;simple\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;a\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Discussi\u0026#xF3;:Font_de_la_Pla\u0026#xE7;a_d'Espanya#Maj\u0026#xFA;scules\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;sa\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Discussi\u0026#xF3;:Font de la Pla\u0026#xE7;a d'Espanya#Maj\u0026#xFA;scules\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[2,56,2,2]}\"\u003EDiscussió:Font de la Plaça d'Espanya#Majúscules\u003C/a\u003E la \u003Cspan about=\"#mwt1\" typeof=\"mw:Transclusion\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;pi\u0026quot;:[[{\u0026quot;k\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;}]],\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[60,91,null,null]}\" data-mw=\"{\u0026quot;parts\u0026quot;:[{\u0026quot;template\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;target\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;FlowMention\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Plantilla:FlowMention\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;params\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Merc\u0026#xE8; Piqueras\u0026quot;}},\u0026quot;i\u0026quot;:0}}]}\"\u003E@\u003C/span\u003E\u003Ca href=\"/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras\" title=\"Usuari:Merc\u0026#xE8; Piqueras\" rel=\"mw:WikiLink\" about=\"#mwt1\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;stx\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;piped\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;a\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Usuari:Merc\u0026#xE8;_Piqueras\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;sa\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Usuari:Merc\u0026#xE8; Piqueras\u0026quot;}}\"\u003EMercè Piqueras\u003C/a\u003E ha argumentat que \u003Ca href=\"/wiki/B%C3%A9_Cultural_d%27Inter%C3%A8s_Local\" class=\"mw-redirect\" title=\"B\u0026#xE9; Cultural d'Inter\u0026#xE8;s Local\" rel=\"mw:WikiLink\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;stx\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;piped\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;a\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./B\u0026#xE9;_Cultural_d'Inter\u0026#xE8;s_Local\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;sa\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;B\u0026#xE9; Cultural d'Inter\u0026#xE8;s Local\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[110,173,32,2]}\"\u003Ebé cultural d'interès local\u003C/a\u003E hauria d'anar amb minúscules. Com que els mateixos arguments haurien de valdre per tots els BCIL i també per les altres figures de protecció (BCIN, BIC, PH, BI, BC, etc.) crec que val més parlar-ne en un àmbit més general com aquest per tal d'adoptar un criteri uniforme.\u003C/p\u003E\n\n\u003Cp data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[453,689,0,0]}\"\u003ENotifico als altres participants de la discussió \u003Cspan about=\"#mwt2\" typeof=\"mw:Transclusion\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;pi\u0026quot;:[[{\u0026quot;k\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;}]],\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[503,533,null,null]}\" data-mw=\"{\u0026quot;parts\u0026quot;:[{\u0026quot;template\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;target\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;FlowMention\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Plantilla:FlowMention\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;params\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Paddy Mc Aloon\u0026quot;}},\u0026quot;i\u0026quot;:0}}]}\"\u003E@\u003C/span\u003E\u003Ca 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data-mw=\"{\u0026quot;parts\u0026quot;:[{\u0026quot;template\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;target\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;FlowMention\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Plantilla:FlowMention\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;params\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Canaan\u0026quot;}},\u0026quot;i\u0026quot;:0}}]}\"\u003E@\u003C/span\u003E\u003Ca href=\"/wiki/Usuari:Canaan\" title=\"Usuari:Canaan\" rel=\"mw:WikiLink\" about=\"#mwt3\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;stx\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;piped\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;a\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Usuari:Canaan\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;sa\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Usuari:Canaan\u0026quot;}}\"\u003ECanaan\u003C/a\u003E i \u003Cspan about=\"#mwt4\" typeof=\"mw:Transclusion\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;pi\u0026quot;:[[{\u0026quot;k\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;}]],\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[560,587,null,null]}\" 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data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;pi\u0026quot;:[[{\u0026quot;k\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;}]],\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[600,624,null,null]}\" data-mw=\"{\u0026quot;parts\u0026quot;:[{\u0026quot;template\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;target\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;FlowMention\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Plantilla:FlowMention\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;params\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;1\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;wt\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Vriullop\u0026quot;}},\u0026quot;i\u0026quot;:0}}]}\"\u003E@\u003C/span\u003E\u003Ca href=\"/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop\" title=\"Usuari:Vriullop\" rel=\"mw:WikiLink\" about=\"#mwt5\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;stx\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;piped\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;a\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./Usuari:Vriullop\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;sa\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;Usuari:Vriullop\u0026quot;}}\"\u003EVriullop\u003C/a\u003E i l'\u003Cspan about=\"#mwt6\" typeof=\"mw:Transclusion\" 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Ja sé que l'\u003Ca href=\"/wiki/B%C3%A9_Cultural_d%27Inter%C3%A8s_Local\" class=\"mw-redirect\" title=\"B\u0026#xE9; Cultural d'Inter\u0026#xE8;s Local\" rel=\"mw:WikiLink\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;stx\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;piped\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;a\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;./B\u0026#xE9;_Cultural_d'Inter\u0026#xE8;s_Local\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;sa\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;href\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;B\u0026#xE9; Cultural d'Inter\u0026#xE8;s Local\u0026quot;},\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[401,442,32,2]}\"\u003Earticle\u003C/a\u003E al qual enllaça està escrit també així, però em sembla un error. El fet que l'abreviació sigui BCIL no significa que calgui escriure cada paraula amb majúscula. El català és una llengua que no prodiga tant les majúscules com l'anglès o fins i tot el castellà. Hi ha algun document oficial de la Generalitat on estigui escrit així? Jo no n'he trobat cap i, per exemple, en aquesta \u003Ca rel=\"nofollow mw:ExtLink\" href=\"https://cultura.gencat.cat/web/.content/osic/18_normativa/Normativa_2018/Docs_normativa_2018/R_CLT_40_2018_Bases-de-patrimoni.pdf\" class=\"external text\" data-parsoid=\"{\u0026quot;dsr\u0026quot;:[836,1006,131,1]}\"\u003Edisposició del Departament de Cultura\u003C/a\u003E de 2018, hi diu \" El jaciment o jaciments arqueològics o paleontològics on es duguin a terme les actuacions han d'haver estat declarats bé cultural d'interès nacional (BCIN), bé cultural d'interès local (BCIL) o espai de protecció arqueològica (EPA)\". 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Alguns poden ser errors tipogràfics o categories reanomenades i potser redirigides, però molts són per categories més concretes que s'han anat creant a Commons al llarg dels anys. No tinc gens clar quina seria la millor manera de fer l'actualització, però se m'ocorren anar a mà amb paciència o esborrar el paràmetre commonscat a tota la llista perquè la plantilla agafi els bons de Wikidata.\u003C/p\u003E\n\n\u003Cpre typeof=\"mw:Extension/pre\" about=\"#mwt2\" data-mw=\"{\u0026quot;name\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;pre\u0026quot;,\u0026quot;attrs\u0026quot;:{},\u0026quot;body\u0026quot;:{\u0026quot;extsrc\u0026quot;:\u0026quot;\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a La Recompensa (Josep Llimona) Q26836146\\nLlista: Sculptures in Arc de Triomf, Wikidata: Sculptures in the Arc de Triomf\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Escuts del Castell dels Tres Dragons Q99509704\\nLlista: Coats of Arms at the Castell dels Tres Dragons, Wikidata: Coats of arms at the Castell dels Tres Dragons\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Jaume I el Conqueridor (Josep Bover) Q99484658\\nLlista: Sculptures in the Neoclassical facade of Ajuntament de Barcelona, Wikidata: Jaume I (sculpture by Josep Bover)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Joan Fiveller, Conseller II de Barcelona (Josep Bover) Q99485078\\nLlista: Sculptures in the Neoclassical facade of Ajuntament de Barcelona, Wikidata: Joan Fiveller (sculpture by Josep Bover)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Mart\u0026#xED;n Alonso Pinz\u0026#xF3;n (Rossend Nobas) Q99484692\\nLlista: Medaillons in Monument to Columbus (Barcelona), Wikidata: Medallions in Monument to Columbus (Barcelona)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font Wallace Q116850194\\nLlista: Wallace fountains in Barcelona, Wikidata: Wallace fountain in La Rambla\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font r\u0026#xE8;plica del model Wallace Q99485111\\nLlista: Wallace fountains in Barcelona, Wikidata: Font r\u0026#xE8;plica del model Wallace (la Rambla)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a La Casa dels Paraig\u0026#xFC;es Q11912701\\nLlista: Dragon sculpture at Casa Bruno Cuadros, Wikidata: Casa Bruno Cuadros\\nCOORDENADES Nu (Enric Casanovas) Q81442225 a 0.138 km de Wikidata (-0.00124, -9e-05)\\nCOORDENADES Est\u0026#xE0;tua (Josep Llimona) Q81442239 a 0.169 km de Wikidata (0.00044, 0.00194)\\nCOORDENADES Marina (Eusebi Arnau) Q81442244 a 0.123 km de Wikidata (-0.00034, -0.00141)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font de l'Efeb Q99461358\\nLlista: Font de l'Efeb, Wikidata: Font de l\u0026#x2019;Efeb\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Medallons de Can Serra Q99460123\\nLlista: Medaillons in Casa Serra, Wikidata: Medallions in Casa Serra\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rapte d'Europa (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463290\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Rapte d'Europa (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Lle\u0026#xF3;. Record de la visita del rei Ferran VII (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463598\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Lle\u0026#xF3;. Record de la visita del rei Ferran VII\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Lle\u0026#xF3;. Record de la visita de la reina Josepa Am\u0026#xE0;lia (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463602\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Lle\u0026#xF3;. Record de la visita de la reina Josepa Am\u0026#xE0;lia\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Commemoraci\u0026#xF3; de la visita del rei Alfons XIII i la reina Vict\u0026#xF2;ria Eug\u0026#xE8;nia (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463604\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Commemoraci\u0026#xF3; de la visita del rei Alfons XIII i la reina Vict\u0026#xF2;ria Eug\u0026#xE8;nia\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu d'Ariadna i Teseu (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463606\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu d'Ariadna i Teseu\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rei Mides (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463608\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Rei Mides (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a D\u0026#xE0;nae (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463611\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: D\u0026#xE0;nae (an\u0026#xF2;nim)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de Deucali\u0026#xF3; i Pirra (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463613\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de Deucali\u0026#xF3; i Pirra\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de la translaci\u0026#xF3; d'una dona estimada per un d\u0026#xE9;u (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463615\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de la translaci\u0026#xF3; d'una dona estimada per un d\u0026#xE9;u\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Commemoraci\u0026#xF3; de la visita de 1802 (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463617\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Commemoraci\u0026#xF3; de la visita de 1802 (an\u0026#xF2;nim)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Nimfa Eg\u0026#xE8;ria (Domenico Bagutti) Q99463619\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Nimfa Eg\u0026#xE8;ria (Domenico Bagutti)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 1 (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463624\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 1 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 2 (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463627\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 2 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 3 (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463629\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 3 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 4 (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463631\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 4 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Columna de les hores (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463633\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Columna de les hores\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Topi\u0026#xE0;ria -taula i cadires- (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463639\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Topi\u0026#xE0;ria: taula i cadires (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font Her\u0026#xE0;ldica Q99463647\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Font Her\u0026#xE0;ldica\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font d'Eco Q99463649\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Font d'Eco\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font dels Dofins Q99463652\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Font dels Dofins\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de les Ci\u0026#xE8;ncies (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463655\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de les Ci\u0026#xE8;ncies\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de les Arts (an\u0026#xF2;nim) Q99463658\\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de les Arts\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a La fa\u0026#xE7;ana de la casa i la pla\u0026#xE7;a (Llu\u0026#xED;s Puiggener) Q99463665\\nLlista: Granja Vella - Mart\u0026#xED; Codolar, Wikidata: La fa\u0026#xE7;ana de la casa i la pla\u0026#xE7;a\\nManca municipi a la llista a Ramon Casas i Carb\u0026#xF3; Q117357486\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font de la pla\u0026#xE7;a d'Isl\u0026#xE0;ndia Q99506343\\nLlista: Pla\u0026#xE7;a d'Isl\u0026#xE0;ndia, Wikidata: Font de la pla\u0026#xE7;a d'Isl\u0026#xE0;ndia\\nCOORDENADES Rellotge de sol bifilar (Rafael Soler i Gay\u0026#xE0;) Q99506684 a 0.621 km de Wikidata (-0.00434, -0.00469)\\nCOORDENADES Parc de Diagonal Mar Q6062641 a 0.191 km de Wikidata (-0.00171, -0.00029)\\nCOORDENADES Als caiguts del Fossat (Miquel i Lluci\u0026#xE0; Osl\u0026#xE9;) Q20976281 a 0.138 km de Wikidata (2e-05, 0.00165)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Pietat (Ferran Ventura) Q99455757\\nLlista: Fossar de la Pedrera, Wikidata: Monument als Immolats per la Llibertat a Catalunya\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Als llibertaris morts pel franquisme (Juanjo Novella) Q99455813\\nLlista: Fossar de la Pedrera, Wikidata: CNT memorial, Fossar de la Pedrera\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Khatxkar per l'amistat Catalunya-Arm\u0026#xE8;nia (Judith Masana) Q99455864\\nLlista: Khatxkar per l'amistat Catalunya-Arm\u0026#xE8;nia, Wikidata: Jachkar per l'amistat Catalunya-Arm\u0026#xE8;nia\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu costat Llobregat (Antoni Parera) Q99455879\\nLlista: Reliefs in Pla\u0026#xE7;a Carles Bu\u0026#xEF;gas, Wikidata: Relleu costat Llobregat (Antoni Parera)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu costat Bes\u0026#xF2;s (Antoni Parera) Q99455881\\nLlista: Reliefs in Pla\u0026#xE7;a Carles Bu\u0026#xEF;gas, Wikidata: Relleu costat Bes\u0026#xF2;s (Antoni Parera)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rius de la Mediterr\u0026#xE0;nia. Ebre (Miquel Blay) Q99455930\\nLlista: Font de l'Exposici\u0026#xF3; de 1929, Wikidata: Rius de la Mediterr\u0026#xE0;nia. Ebre (Miquel Blay)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rius de l'Atl\u0026#xE0;ntic. Tajo i Guadalquvir (Miquel Blay) Q99455931\\nLlista: Font de l'Exposici\u0026#xF3; de 1929, Wikidata: Rius de l'Atl\u0026#xE0;ntic. Tajo i Guadalquvir (Miquel Blay)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rius del Cant\u0026#xE0;bric (Miquel Blay) Q99455933\\nLlista: Font de l'Exposici\u0026#xF3; de 1929, Wikidata: Rius del Cant\u0026#xE0;bric (Miquel Blay)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Braser i Vict\u0026#xF2;ries (Frederic Llobet) Q99455936\\nLlista: Font de l'Exposici\u0026#xF3; de 1929, Wikidata: Braser i Vict\u0026#xF2;ries (Frederic Llobet)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Abundantiae (Miquel i Lluci\u0026#xE0; Osl\u0026#xE9;) Q99455938\\nLlista: Font de l'Exposici\u0026#xF3; de 1929, Wikidata: Abundantiae (Miquel i Lluci\u0026#xE0; Osl\u0026#xE9;)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Navegatio (Miquel i Lluci\u0026#xE0; Osl\u0026#xE9;) Q99455940\\nLlista: Font de l'Exposici\u0026#xF3; de 1929, Wikidata: Navegatio (Miquel i Lluci\u0026#xE0; Osl\u0026#xE9;)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Sarriera (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438411\\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Sarriera (Joaquim de Setmenat)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Sentmenat (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438412\\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Sentmenat (Joaquim de Setmenat)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Ciutadilla (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438413\\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Ciutadilla (Joaquim de Setmenat)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Pati\u0026#xF1;o (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438414\\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Pati\u0026#xF1;o (Joaquim de Setmenat)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Jordan de Urries (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438415\\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Jordan de Urries (Joaquim de Setmenat)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Osorio (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438416\\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Osorio (Joaquim de Setmenat)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Despujol (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438417\\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Despujol (Joaquim de Setmenat)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Nu femen\u0026#xED; (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;) Q99435496\\nLlista: Jard\u0026#xED; de la Biblioteca Clar\u0026#xE0;, Wikidata: Nu de dona (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Tors de dona (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;) Q99438420\\nLlista: Jard\u0026#xED; de la Biblioteca Clar\u0026#xE0;, Wikidata: Tors de dona (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dona ajaguda (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;) Q99438421\\nLlista: Jard\u0026#xED; de la Biblioteca Clar\u0026#xE0;, Wikidata: Dona ajaguda (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Disc\u0026#xF2;bol (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;) Q99438422\\nLlista: Jard\u0026#xED; de la Biblioteca Clar\u0026#xE0;, Wikidata: Disc\u0026#xF2;bol (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Joventut (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;) Q99438594\\nLlista: Jard\u0026#xED; de la Biblioteca Clar\u0026#xE0;, Wikidata: Joventut (Biblioteca Clar\u0026#xE0;)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dona asseguda (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;) Q99438425\\nLlista: Jard\u0026#xED; de la Biblioteca Clar\u0026#xE0;, Wikidata: Dona asseguda I (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;)\\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dona asseguda (Josep Clar\u0026#xE0;) Q99438602\\nLlista: Jard\u0026#xED; 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Record de la visita del rei Ferran VII (anònim) Q99463598\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Lleó. Record de la visita del rei Ferran VII\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Lleó. Record de la visita de la reina Josepa Amàlia (anònim) Q99463602\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Lleó. 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El topònim vigent és El Gos i l'antic de Castellnou fa referència a un castell que ja no existeix. <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://www.poblesabandonats.cat/fitxes/787" class="external text" id="mwBQ">Font</a>: Considero que és un error a llista de monuments i que tant els articles com les entitats corresponents s'haurien de fusionar.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=reply&topic_postId=yfnrwrhato52jda1#flow-post-yfnrwrhato52jda1" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730923721" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">21:08, 6 nov 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 17 dies</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&topic_showPostId=yfnrwrhato52jda1#flow-post-yfnrwrhato52jda1"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfnrwrhato52jda1&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies">  <div id="flow-post-yfp3c9mdbcs8jnes" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfp3c9mdbcs8jnes" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">No hi ha cap problema amb la fusió, però no ho considero cap error. És habitual que tingui el nom de quan es va declarar monument, i no és un poble BCIN com a conjunt històric. Està declarat el 1949 pel decret de castells sobre base documental. Si algun dia es troben indicis del suposat castell, suposo que es requalificaria a zona arqueològica i potser la delimitació no es correspon amb el nucli. Però, ara per ara, no hi ha prou informació, cal considerar que afecta tot el promontori i que no hi ha material per a dos articles.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=reply&topic_postId=yfp3c9mdbcs8jnes#flow-post-yfp3c9mdbcs8jnes" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730974822" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:20, 7 nov 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 16 dies</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&topic_showPostId=yfp3c9mdbcs8jnes#flow-post-yfp3c9mdbcs8jnes"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfp3c9mdbcs8jnes&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies">  <div id="flow-post-yfpcm2qm13liw3nd" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfpcm2qm13liw3nd" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Aleshores la data que figura a <a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q43125345?uselang=ca#Phttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q43125345?uselang=ca#P1435" class="external text" id="mwAw">WD</a> està malament i caldria corregir-la.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=reply&topic_postId=yfpcm2qm13liw3nd#flow-post-yfpcm2qm13liw3nd" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=yfpcnb8w26pqbp44" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730984849" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">14:07, 7 nov 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 16 dies</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&topic_showPostId=yfpcm2qm13liw3nd#flow-post-yfpcm2qm13liw3nd"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfpcm2qm13liw3nd&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-yfpdpt058icyi0z5" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfpdpt058icyi0z5" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Doncs si és un error de la base de dades WLM és un error sistemàtic, o potser un criteri diferent (encertat o no), perquè mirant altres castells, com el del Papiol o el de Mur, veig que tots tenen la data del 1988 treta d'aquesta base de dades mentre que Patmapa diu que són del 1949.</p> <p id="mwAw">Potser el 1949 és quan l'Estat va declarar BIC tots els castells i el 1988 va ser quan la Generalitat va declarar BCIN tots els que fossin BIC.</p> <p id="mwBA">En qualsevol cas, em temo que si canviem aquest tindrem el mateix motiu per canviar la data i la referència de tots els castells.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=reply&topic_postId=yfpdpt058icyi0z5#flow-post-yfpdpt058icyi0z5" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730986001" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">14:26, 7 nov 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 16 dies</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&topic_showPostId=yfpdpt058icyi0z5#flow-post-yfpdpt058icyi0z5"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfpdpt058icyi0z5&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-yfpdwosy85yw7ul9" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfpdwosy85yw7ul9" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Que jo sàpiga, el pas de BIC a BCIN és per la llei de patrimoni de la Generalitat del 1993. Per tant, aquesta data deu estar malament de totes totes.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=reply&topic_postId=yfpdwosy85yw7ul9#flow-post-yfpdwosy85yw7ul9" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730986207" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">14:30, 7 nov 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 16 dies</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&topic_showPostId=yfpdwosy85yw7ul9#flow-post-yfpdwosy85yw7ul9"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfpdwosy85yw7ul9&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-yfph5pesyp7g7za0" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfph5pesyp7g7za0" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Aquesta data surt de <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Bienes%20de%20interés%20cultural%20de%20la%20comarca%20de%20Noguera%20(provincia%20de%20Lérida)" title="es:Anexo:Bienes de interés cultural de la comarca de Noguera (provincia de Lérida)" class="extiw" id="mwAw">es:Anexo:Bienes de interés cultural de la comarca de Noguera (provincia de Lérida)</a>. Consultant les <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://www.cultura.gob.es/bienes/cargarFiltroBienesInmuebles.do?cache=init&language=ca&layout=bienesInmuebles" class="external text" id="mwBA">dades del ministeri</a>, Bien=Castillo del Gos, o Municipio=Oliola, diu Fecha de Declaración 08-11-1988, Fecha Boletín Declaración 05-05-1949. El decret del 1949 és genèric, tot el que estigui fortificat, sense cap inventari. He buscat el BOE del 8-11-1988 i no diu res. Interpreto que el 1988 és la data de registre en l'inventari.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=reply&topic_postId=yfph5pesyp7g7za0#flow-post-yfph5pesyp7g7za0" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730989709" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">15:28, 7 nov 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 16 dies</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&topic_showPostId=yfph5pesyp7g7za0#flow-post-yfph5pesyp7g7za0"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfph5pesyp7g7za0&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-yfr55klzkn6q0aev" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfr55klzkn6q0aev" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Comentari off the record, si és possible en un wiki, per entendre-ho millor (sense referències). En la meva opinió el decret de 1949 tenia una motivació militar, inventariar tots els llocs on es poguessin refugiar els maquis. La llei de patrimoni espanyol és del 1985 i diu que s'integren cartes arqueològiques i inventaris diversos. La data del 8-11-1988 deu ser quan van carregar l'inventari militar que no tenia protecció administrativa real i, en certs casos, ni cap ni peus.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=reply&topic_postId=yfp3c9mdbcs8jnes#flow-post-yfp3c9mdbcs8jnes" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1731054348" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">09:25, 8 nov 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 15 dies</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&topic_showPostId=yfr55klzkn6q0aev#flow-post-yfr55klzkn6q0aev"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfr55klzkn6q0aev&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-yfp3qqhf7ipc0i8o" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfp3qqhf7ipc0i8o" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">D'acord també amb la fusió, perquè són el mateix, a menys que trobem alguna cosa que es pugui dir d'un i no de l'altre.</p> <p id="mwAw">Els errors en tot cas han estat en com hi hem arribat. Per una banda vam badar fa uns anys en no enllaçar el Gos a la llista de monuments, cosa que hagués evitat duplicar l'article, i per altra banda haver proposat la fusió abans de fer-la ens hagués estalviat algun ensurt.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=reply&topic_postId=yfp3qqhf7ipc0i8o#flow-post-yfp3qqhf7ipc0i8o" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730975255" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:27, 7 nov 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 16 dies</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&topic_showPostId=yfp3qqhf7ipc0i8o#flow-post-yfp3qqhf7ipc0i8o"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=yfp3qqhf7ipc0i8o&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-yfp4gapow2uux74d" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="yfp4gapow2uux74d" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Matiso, no ho considero error de patrimoni. Sí que ho és haver generat un article nou innecessàriament.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=reply&topic_postId=yfnrwrhato52jda1#flow-post-yfnrwrhato52jda1" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Yfnrwrhatk70b9bt&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1730976020" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:40, 7 nov 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 16 dies</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" 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class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Notifico <span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Vriullop"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwAw">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" title="Usuari:Vriullop" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" id="mwBA">Vriullop</a>, <span about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" 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href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y9gsbrsphbiezx64&action=edit-topic-summary"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-listBullet"><span>Resum</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y9gsbrsphbiezx64&action=moderate-topic&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_topic.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga el tema</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-y9gsbrsphfgh814c" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="y9gsbrsphfgh814c" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Les darreres setmanes he comprovat que les llistes automàtiques amb una plantilla per fila funcionen bé fins uns 750 elements amb coordenades. Com que les llistes de monuments també tenen una plantilla per fila i coordenades, no haurien de ser gaire diferents, també haurien de poder tenir més dels 250 monuments que hi encabíem en començar.</p> <p id="mwAw">He fet una prova <a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usuari:Pere_prlpz/taller&oldid=33732315" class="external text" id="mwBA">aquí</a> enganxant tres llistes i diria que funciona bé amb unes 340 coordenades. </p> <p id="mwBQ">No crec que calgui posar-nos a endreçar totes les llistes que estan dividides i podrien estar-ho menys, però sí que crec que es convindria tornar a la <a href="/wiki/Llista_de_monuments_del_barri_G%C3%B2tic" title="Llista de monuments del barri Gòtic" rel="mw:WikiLink" id="mwBg">llista de monuments del barri Gòtic</a> i a la <a href="/wiki/Llista_de_monuments_de_Sant_Pere,_Santa_Caterina_i_la_Ribera" title="Llista de monuments de Sant Pere, Santa Caterina i la Ribera" rel="mw:WikiLink" id="mwBw">llista de monuments de Sant Pere, Santa Caterina i la Ribera</a> els monuments de la plaça Reial i de la urbanització del Born que en van sortir perquè en un cert moment no hi cabien.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y9gsbrsphbiezx64&action=reply&topic_postId=y9gsbrsphfgh814c#flow-post-y9gsbrsphfgh814c" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y9gsbrsphbiezx64&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1722274938" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">18:42, 29 jul 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 3 mesos</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y9gsbrsphbiezx64&topic_showPostId=y9gsbrsphfgh814c#flow-post-y9gsbrsphfgh814c"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y9gsbrsphbiezx64&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=y9gsbrsphfgh814c&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-y9i0w5qrkcpjj5f6" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="y9i0w5qrkcpjj5f6" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">La teva prova amb 313 monuments m'ha trigat 5,4 segons en carregar la previsualització des d'escriptori i 8 segons des de mòbil amb wiki. El paràmetre més crític és "Mida d'inclusió post-expansió" amb valor 1.836.263/2.097.152 bytes, és a dir al 88% del límit d'expansió de plantilles. A notar que aquesta mida depèn del que faci cada plantilla, probablement amb una versió Lua seria més eficient. En casos de pàgines llargues les solc comparar amb <a href="/wiki/Barcelona" title="Barcelona" rel="mw:WikiLink" id="mwAw">Barcelona</a> que té 152.464 octets, semblant a la mida de la prova, i que triga 9,5 segons amb mòbil, un valor prou notable. Hi ha marge, més que per la quantitat de plantilles, que pel límit d'expansió podrien ser unes 350, és més per la mida de la pàgina que a partir de 150.000 octets ja pot trigar massa. 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href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Estic afegint els <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P11557" title="d:Property:P11557" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" class="extiw" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"P","href":"./Plantilla:P"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"11557"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwAw">Identificador Catàleg de Patrimoni de l<span typeof="mw:Entity">'</span>Ajuntament de Barcelona<span typeof="mw:Entity"> </span><small>(P11557)</small></a> que falten (i trobo) als elements de nivell C que ja són a Wikidata i crec que alguns dels elements als que els l'estic posant són a les llistes de monuments, i si el codi de l'Ajuntament no hi és encara a Wikidata és que no deu ser a les llistes de monuments (per exemple, és el cas de <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19610952" title="d:Q19610952" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" class="extiw" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"Q","href":"./Plantilla:Q"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"19610952"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwBA">Sant Joan d<span typeof="mw:Entity">'</span>Horta<span typeof="mw:Entity"> </span><small>(Q19610952)</small></a>). No sé quants deuen ser els elements afectats, però són poques desenes.</p> <p id="mwBQ">Aleshores el dubte és com és d'important que aquests codis surtin a les llistes de monuments, i en cas que sigui important com ho fem perquè hi surtin, sigui modificant la plantilla, baixant-los amb un bot o copiant-los a mà.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y5myh3h0icamj02m&action=reply&topic_postId=y5myh3h0ig8or40u#flow-post-y5myh3h0ig8or40u" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y5myh3h0icamj02m&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1716929122" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">21:45, 28 maig 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 5 mesos</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y5myh3h0icamj02m&topic_showPostId=y5myh3h0ig8or40u#flow-post-y5myh3h0ig8or40u"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y5myh3h0icamj02m&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=y5myh3h0ig8or40u&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-y5odgt72g3whqeau" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="y5odgt72g3whqeau" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Per la plantilla, el paràmetre idurl2 és informatiu de diverses fonts alternatives, no s'usa per a cap tractament particular. He modificat la plantilla perquè consulti Wikidata si està buit en el cas de Barcelona. L'enllaç de Sant Joan d'Horta ja surt a <a href="/wiki/Llista_de_monuments_d%27Horta-Guinard%C3%B3" title="Llista de monuments d'Horta-Guinardó" rel="mw:WikiLink" id="mwAw">Llista de monuments d'Horta-Guinardó</a>.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y5myh3h0icamj02m&action=reply&topic_postId=y5myh3h0icamj02m#flow-post-y5myh3h0icamj02m" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y5myh3h0icamj02m&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1716984060" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">13:01, 29 maig 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 5 mesos</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y5myh3h0icamj02m&topic_showPostId=y5odgt72g3whqeau#flow-post-y5odgt72g3whqeau"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y5myh3h0icamj02m&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=y5odgt72g3whqeau&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> <script name="handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" type="text/x-handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" data-type="replace" data-target="~ a" > <form class="flow-post flow-reply-form" method="POST" action="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Y5myh3h0icamj02m&action=reply&topic_postId=y5myh3h0icamj02m#flow-post-y5myh3h0icamj02m-form-content" id="flow-reply-y5myh3h0icamj02m" > <input type="hidden" name="wpEditToken" value="+\" /> <input type="hidden" name="topic_replyTo" value="y5myh3h0icamj02m" /> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <div class="flow-anon-warning"> <div class="flow-anon-warning-mobile"> <div class="flow-form-collapsible flow-ui-tooltip mw-ui-progressive flow-ui-tooltip-down flow-ui-tooltip-block plainlinks">No heu iniciat cap sessió. 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href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Acabo de veure l'edició <a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Llista_de_monuments_de_la_Garrotxa&curid=809609&diff=33078743&oldid=31210475" class="external free" id="mwAw">https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Llista_de_monuments_de_la_Garrotxa&curid=809609&diff=33078743&oldid=31210475</a> on un anònim posa com a BCIN un pont que a <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://invarquit.cultura.gencat.cat/card/10684" class="external free" id="mwBA">https://invarquit.cultura.gencat.cat/card/10684</a> surt com a Incoat-BCIN. No recordo què fèiem en aquests casos. Als incoats els posàvem la protecció?</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xyv72h35mwt2d86y&action=reply&topic_postId=xyv72h35n0r4lc56#flow-post-xyv72h35n0r4lc56" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xyv72h35mwt2d86y&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1707474647" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:30, 9 feb 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 9 mesos</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xyv72h35mwt2d86y&topic_showPostId=xyv72h35n0r4lc56#flow-post-xyv72h35n0r4lc56"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xyv72h35mwt2d86y&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xyv72h35n0r4lc56&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xyv8b6l5twas9ok2" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xyv8b6l5twas9ok2" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg"><a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://ca.wiktionary.org/wiki/incoar" title="wikt:incoar" class="extiw" id="mwAw">Incoar</a> és començar un procediment administratiu. Tenen una protecció preventiva com a BCIN fins que s'aprova, es desestima o bé caduca al cap de 18 mesos. No podem considerar BCIN als incoats, és un registre d'expedients pendents o arxivats.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xyv72h35mwt2d86y&action=reply&topic_postId=xyv8b6l5twas9ok2#flow-post-xyv8b6l5twas9ok2" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xyv72h35mwt2d86y&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1707475985" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:53, 9 feb 2024</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 9 mesos</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only 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class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg"><span typeof="mw:Transclusion mw:File" about="#mwt1" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"fet","href":"./Plantilla:Fet"},"params":{},"i":0}}]}" id="mwAw"><span title="Fet"><img alt="Fet" resource="./Fitxer:Yes_check.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600" data-file-type="drawing" 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class="flow-topic-titlebar"> <div class="flow-topic-titlebar-container"> <h2 class="flow-topic-title flow-load-interactive " data-flow-topic-title="App per importar fitxes a Wikidata" data-flow-load-handler="topicTitle" > App per importar fitxes a Wikidata</h2> <div class="flow-topic-meta"> 3 comentaris • <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1700254783" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">21:59, 17 nov 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </div> <span class="flow-reply-count"><span class="flow-reply-count-number">3</span></span> </div> <div class="flow-topic-summary-container " > <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon 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href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=edit-topic-summary"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-listBullet"><span>Resum</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=moderate-topic&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_topic.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga el tema</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xopti838g82i55x8" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xopti838g82i55x8" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">M'he fet una app per crear un item a Wikidata agafant les dades d'una fitxa dels mapes de patrimoni de la Diputació de Barcelona o d'una entrada de poblesdecatalunya.cat. Bàsicament, li poses la url i et torna el codi per enganxar al Quickstatements amb totes les dades que ha pogut llegir.</p> <p id="mwAw">L'app és a <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://pere.shinyapps.io/fitxes_patrimoni/" class="external free" id="mwBA">https://pere.shinyapps.io/fitxes_patrimoni/</a> . No sé quant de temps estarà en línia perquè el servidor em deixa posar molt poques apps a la vegada, però si algú la necessita també li puc dir com executar-la localment.</p> <p id="mwBQ">Si algú la fa servir ja em dirà què li sembla.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=reply&topic_postId=xopti838g82i55x8#flow-post-xopti838g82i55x8" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1693303220" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:00, 29 ago 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&topic_showPostId=xopti838g82i55x8#flow-post-xopti838g82i55x8"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xopti838g82i55x8&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xopuseinhpc72g7p" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xopuseinhpc72g7p" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Amadalvarez" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Amadalvarez</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Amadalvarez" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Amadalvarez">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Amadalvarez" title="Contribucions/Amadalvarez">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Brillant idea. Felicitacions.!</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=reply&topic_postId=xopuseinhpc72g7p#flow-post-xopuseinhpc72g7p" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1693304602" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:23, 29 ago 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&topic_showPostId=xopuseinhpc72g7p#flow-post-xopuseinhpc72g7p"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xopuseinhpc72g7p&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xtp1rszkskm1i3sp" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xtp1rszkskm1i3sp" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">He actualitzat l'app i ara també puja dades del catàleg de l'Ajuntament de Barcelona, donant-li l'identificador. Pot ser útil per anar pujant de manera no massiva els monuments de nivell C.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=reply&topic_postId=xopti838g44fx1z0#flow-post-xopti838g44fx1z0" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1700254783" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">21:59, 17 nov 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&topic_showPostId=xtp1rszkskm1i3sp#flow-post-xtp1rszkskm1i3sp"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xtp1rszkskm1i3sp&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> <script name="handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" type="text/x-handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" data-type="replace" data-target="~ a" > <form class="flow-post flow-reply-form" method="POST" action="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xopti838g44fx1z0&action=reply&topic_postId=xopti838g44fx1z0#flow-post-xopti838g44fx1z0-form-content" id="flow-reply-xopti838g44fx1z0" > <input type="hidden" name="wpEditToken" value="+\" /> <input type="hidden" name="topic_replyTo" value="xopti838g44fx1z0" /> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <div class="flow-anon-warning"> <div class="flow-anon-warning-mobile"> <div class="flow-form-collapsible flow-ui-tooltip mw-ui-progressive flow-ui-tooltip-down flow-ui-tooltip-block plainlinks">No heu iniciat cap sessió. 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class="flow-topic-titlebar"> <div class="flow-topic-titlebar-container"> <h2 class="flow-topic-title flow-load-interactive " data-flow-topic-title="Commonscat per actualitzar a les llistes d&#039;art públic" data-flow-load-handler="topicTitle" > Commonscat per actualitzar a les llistes d'art públic</h2> <div class="flow-topic-meta"> 2 comentaris • <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xqf1pxbqg4e80ryq&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1695716007" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">09:13, 26 set 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </div> <span class="flow-reply-count"><span class="flow-reply-count-number">2</span></span> </div> <div class="flow-topic-summary-container " > <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a 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flow-ui-summarize-topic-link" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xqf1pxbqg4e80ryq&action=edit-topic-summary"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-listBullet"><span>Resum</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xqf1pxbqg4e80ryq&action=moderate-topic&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_topic.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga el tema</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xqf1pxbqg8ca8vwy" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xqf1pxbqg8ca8vwy" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">El bot ha trobat a les llistes d'art públic molts paràmetres commonscat diferents dels que surten a Wikidata. Alguns poden ser errors tipogràfics o categories reanomenades i potser redirigides, però molts són per categories més concretes que s'han anat creant a Commons al llarg dels anys. No tinc gens clar quina seria la millor manera de fer l'actualització, però se m'ocorren anar a mà amb paciència o esborrar el paràmetre commonscat a tota la llista perquè la plantilla agafi els bons de Wikidata.</p> <pre typeof="mw:Extension/pre" about="#mwt2" data-mw="{"name":"pre","attrs":{},"body":{"extsrc":"\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a La Recompensa (Josep Llimona) Q26836146\nLlista: Sculptures in Arc de Triomf, Wikidata: Sculptures in the Arc de Triomf\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Escuts del Castell dels Tres Dragons Q99509704\nLlista: Coats of Arms at the Castell dels Tres Dragons, Wikidata: Coats of arms at the Castell dels Tres Dragons\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Jaume I el Conqueridor (Josep Bover) Q99484658\nLlista: Sculptures in the Neoclassical facade of Ajuntament de Barcelona, Wikidata: Jaume I (sculpture by Josep Bover)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Joan Fiveller, Conseller II de Barcelona (Josep Bover) Q99485078\nLlista: Sculptures in the Neoclassical facade of Ajuntament de Barcelona, Wikidata: Joan Fiveller (sculpture by Josep Bover)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Martín Alonso Pinzón (Rossend Nobas) Q99484692\nLlista: Medaillons in Monument to Columbus (Barcelona), Wikidata: Medallions in Monument to Columbus (Barcelona)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font Wallace Q116850194\nLlista: Wallace fountains in Barcelona, Wikidata: Wallace fountain in La Rambla\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font rèplica del model Wallace Q99485111\nLlista: Wallace fountains in Barcelona, Wikidata: Font rèplica del model Wallace (la Rambla)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a La Casa dels Paraigües Q11912701\nLlista: Dragon sculpture at Casa Bruno Cuadros, Wikidata: Casa Bruno Cuadros\nCOORDENADES Nu (Enric Casanovas) Q81442225 a 0.138 km de Wikidata (-0.00124, -9e-05)\nCOORDENADES Estàtua (Josep Llimona) Q81442239 a 0.169 km de Wikidata (0.00044, 0.00194)\nCOORDENADES Marina (Eusebi Arnau) Q81442244 a 0.123 km de Wikidata (-0.00034, -0.00141)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font de l'Efeb Q99461358\nLlista: Font de l'Efeb, Wikidata: Font de l’Efeb\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Medallons de Can Serra Q99460123\nLlista: Medaillons in Casa Serra, Wikidata: Medallions in Casa Serra\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rapte d'Europa (anònim) Q99463290\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Rapte d'Europa (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Lleó. Record de la visita del rei Ferran VII (anònim) Q99463598\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Lleó. Record de la visita del rei Ferran VII\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Lleó. Record de la visita de la reina Josepa Amàlia (anònim) Q99463602\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Lleó. Record de la visita de la reina Josepa Amàlia\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Commemoració de la visita del rei Alfons XIII i la reina Victòria Eugènia (anònim) Q99463604\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Commemoració de la visita del rei Alfons XIII i la reina Victòria Eugènia\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu d'Ariadna i Teseu (anònim) Q99463606\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu d'Ariadna i Teseu\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rei Mides (anònim) Q99463608\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Rei Mides (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dànae (anònim) Q99463611\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Dànae (anònim)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de Deucalió i Pirra (anònim) Q99463613\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de Deucalió i Pirra\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de la translació d'una dona estimada per un déu (anònim) Q99463615\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de la translació d'una dona estimada per un déu\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Commemoració de la visita de 1802 (anònim) Q99463617\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Commemoració de la visita de 1802 (anònim)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Nimfa Egèria (Domenico Bagutti) Q99463619\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Nimfa Egèria (Domenico Bagutti)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 1 (anònim) Q99463624\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 1 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 2 (anònim) Q99463627\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 2 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 3 (anònim) Q99463629\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 3 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 4 (anònim) Q99463631\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 4 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Columna de les hores (anònim) Q99463633\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Columna de les hores\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Topiària -taula i cadires- (anònim) Q99463639\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Topiària: taula i cadires (Parc del Laberint d'Horta)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font Heràldica Q99463647\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Font Heràldica\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font d'Eco Q99463649\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Font d'Eco\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font dels Dofins Q99463652\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Font dels Dofins\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de les Ciències (anònim) Q99463655\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de les Ciències\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de les Arts (anònim) Q99463658\nLlista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de les Arts\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a La façana de la casa i la plaça (Lluís Puiggener) Q99463665\nLlista: Granja Vella - Martí Codolar, Wikidata: La façana de la casa i la plaça\nManca municipi a la llista a Ramon Casas i Carbó Q117357486\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font de la plaça d'Islàndia Q99506343\nLlista: Plaça d'Islàndia, Wikidata: Font de la plaça d'Islàndia\nCOORDENADES Rellotge de sol bifilar (Rafael Soler i Gayà) Q99506684 a 0.621 km de Wikidata (-0.00434, -0.00469)\nCOORDENADES Parc de Diagonal Mar Q6062641 a 0.191 km de Wikidata (-0.00171, -0.00029)\nCOORDENADES Als caiguts del Fossat (Miquel i Llucià Oslé) Q20976281 a 0.138 km de Wikidata (2e-05, 0.00165)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Pietat (Ferran Ventura) Q99455757\nLlista: Fossar de la Pedrera, Wikidata: Monument als Immolats per la Llibertat a Catalunya\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Als llibertaris morts pel franquisme (Juanjo Novella) Q99455813\nLlista: Fossar de la Pedrera, Wikidata: CNT memorial, Fossar de la Pedrera\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Khatxkar per l'amistat Catalunya-Armènia (Judith Masana) Q99455864\nLlista: Khatxkar per l'amistat Catalunya-Armènia, Wikidata: Jachkar per l'amistat Catalunya-Armènia\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu costat Llobregat (Antoni Parera) Q99455879\nLlista: Reliefs in Plaça Carles Buïgas, Wikidata: Relleu costat Llobregat (Antoni Parera)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu costat Besòs (Antoni Parera) Q99455881\nLlista: Reliefs in Plaça Carles Buïgas, Wikidata: Relleu costat Besòs (Antoni Parera)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rius de la Mediterrània. Ebre (Miquel Blay) Q99455930\nLlista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Rius de la Mediterrània. Ebre (Miquel Blay)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rius de l'Atlàntic. Tajo i Guadalquvir (Miquel Blay) Q99455931\nLlista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Rius de l'Atlàntic. Tajo i Guadalquvir (Miquel Blay)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rius del Cantàbric (Miquel Blay) Q99455933\nLlista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Rius del Cantàbric (Miquel Blay)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Braser i Victòries (Frederic Llobet) Q99455936\nLlista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Braser i Victòries (Frederic Llobet)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Abundantiae (Miquel i Llucià Oslé) Q99455938\nLlista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Abundantiae (Miquel i Llucià Oslé)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Navegatio (Miquel i Llucià Oslé) Q99455940\nLlista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Navegatio (Miquel i Llucià Oslé)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Sarriera (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438411\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Sarriera (Joaquim de Setmenat)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Sentmenat (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438412\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Sentmenat (Joaquim de Setmenat)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Ciutadilla (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438413\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Ciutadilla (Joaquim de Setmenat)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Patiño (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438414\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Patiño (Joaquim de Setmenat)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Jordan de Urries (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438415\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Jordan de Urries (Joaquim de Setmenat)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Osorio (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438416\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Osorio (Joaquim de Setmenat)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Despujol (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438417\nLlista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Despujol (Joaquim de Setmenat)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Nu femení (Josep Clarà) Q99435496\nLlista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Nu de dona (Josep Clarà)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Tors de dona (Josep Clarà) Q99438420\nLlista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Tors de dona (Josep Clarà)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dona ajaguda (Josep Clarà) Q99438421\nLlista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Dona ajaguda (Josep Clarà)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Discòbol (Josep Clarà) Q99438422\nLlista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Discòbol (Josep Clarà)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Joventut (Josep Clarà) Q99438594\nLlista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Joventut (Biblioteca Clarà)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dona asseguda (Josep Clarà) Q99438425\nLlista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Dona asseguda I (Josep Clarà)\nCOMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dona asseguda (Josep Clarà) Q99438602\nLlista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Dona asseguda II (Josep Clarà)\n"}}" id="mwAw">COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a La Recompensa (Josep Llimona) Q26836146 Llista: Sculptures in Arc de Triomf, Wikidata: Sculptures in the Arc de Triomf COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Escuts del Castell dels Tres Dragons Q99509704 Llista: Coats of Arms at the Castell dels Tres Dragons, Wikidata: Coats of arms at the Castell dels Tres Dragons COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Jaume I el Conqueridor (Josep Bover) Q99484658 Llista: Sculptures in the Neoclassical facade of Ajuntament de Barcelona, Wikidata: Jaume I (sculpture by Josep Bover) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Joan Fiveller, Conseller II de Barcelona (Josep Bover) Q99485078 Llista: Sculptures in the Neoclassical facade of Ajuntament de Barcelona, Wikidata: Joan Fiveller (sculpture by Josep Bover) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Martín Alonso Pinzón (Rossend Nobas) Q99484692 Llista: Medaillons in Monument to Columbus (Barcelona), Wikidata: Medallions in Monument to Columbus (Barcelona) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font Wallace Q116850194 Llista: Wallace fountains in Barcelona, Wikidata: Wallace fountain in La Rambla COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font rèplica del model Wallace Q99485111 Llista: Wallace fountains in Barcelona, Wikidata: Font rèplica del model Wallace (la Rambla) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a La Casa dels Paraigües Q11912701 Llista: Dragon sculpture at Casa Bruno Cuadros, Wikidata: Casa Bruno Cuadros COORDENADES Nu (Enric Casanovas) Q81442225 a 0.138 km de Wikidata (-0.00124, -9e-05) COORDENADES Estàtua (Josep Llimona) Q81442239 a 0.169 km de Wikidata (0.00044, 0.00194) COORDENADES Marina (Eusebi Arnau) Q81442244 a 0.123 km de Wikidata (-0.00034, -0.00141) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font de l'Efeb Q99461358 Llista: Font de l'Efeb, Wikidata: Font de l’Efeb COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Medallons de Can Serra Q99460123 Llista: Medaillons in Casa Serra, Wikidata: Medallions in Casa Serra COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rapte d'Europa (anònim) Q99463290 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Rapte d'Europa (Parc del Laberint d'Horta) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Lleó. Record de la visita del rei Ferran VII (anònim) Q99463598 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Lleó. Record de la visita del rei Ferran VII COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Lleó. Record de la visita de la reina Josepa Amàlia (anònim) Q99463602 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Lleó. Record de la visita de la reina Josepa Amàlia COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Commemoració de la visita del rei Alfons XIII i la reina Victòria Eugènia (anònim) Q99463604 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Commemoració de la visita del rei Alfons XIII i la reina Victòria Eugènia COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu d'Ariadna i Teseu (anònim) Q99463606 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu d'Ariadna i Teseu COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rei Mides (anònim) Q99463608 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Rei Mides (Parc del Laberint d'Horta) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dànae (anònim) Q99463611 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Dànae (anònim) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de Deucalió i Pirra (anònim) Q99463613 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de Deucalió i Pirra COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de la translació d'una dona estimada per un déu (anònim) Q99463615 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de la translació d'una dona estimada per un déu COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Commemoració de la visita de 1802 (anònim) Q99463617 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Commemoració de la visita de 1802 (anònim) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Nimfa Egèria (Domenico Bagutti) Q99463619 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Nimfa Egèria (Domenico Bagutti) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 1 (anònim) Q99463624 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 1 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 2 (anònim) Q99463627 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 2 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 3 (anònim) Q99463629 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 3 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Vigilant 4 (anònim) Q99463631 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Vigilant 4 (Parc del Laberint d'Horta) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Columna de les hores (anònim) Q99463633 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Columna de les hores COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Topiària -taula i cadires- (anònim) Q99463639 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Topiària: taula i cadires (Parc del Laberint d'Horta) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font Heràldica Q99463647 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Font Heràldica COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font d'Eco Q99463649 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Font d'Eco COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font dels Dofins Q99463652 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Font dels Dofins COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de les Ciències (anònim) Q99463655 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de les Ciències COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu de les Arts (anònim) Q99463658 Llista: Sculptures in Parc del Laberint d'Horta, Wikidata: Relleu de les Arts COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a La façana de la casa i la plaça (Lluís Puiggener) Q99463665 Llista: Granja Vella - Martí Codolar, Wikidata: La façana de la casa i la plaça Manca municipi a la llista a Ramon Casas i Carbó Q117357486 COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Font de la plaça d'Islàndia Q99506343 Llista: Plaça d'Islàndia, Wikidata: Font de la plaça d'Islàndia COORDENADES Rellotge de sol bifilar (Rafael Soler i Gayà) Q99506684 a 0.621 km de Wikidata (-0.00434, -0.00469) COORDENADES Parc de Diagonal Mar Q6062641 a 0.191 km de Wikidata (-0.00171, -0.00029) COORDENADES Als caiguts del Fossat (Miquel i Llucià Oslé) Q20976281 a 0.138 km de Wikidata (2e-05, 0.00165) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Pietat (Ferran Ventura) Q99455757 Llista: Fossar de la Pedrera, Wikidata: Monument als Immolats per la Llibertat a Catalunya COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Als llibertaris morts pel franquisme (Juanjo Novella) Q99455813 Llista: Fossar de la Pedrera, Wikidata: CNT memorial, Fossar de la Pedrera COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Khatxkar per l'amistat Catalunya-Armènia (Judith Masana) Q99455864 Llista: Khatxkar per l'amistat Catalunya-Armènia, Wikidata: Jachkar per l'amistat Catalunya-Armènia COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu costat Llobregat (Antoni Parera) Q99455879 Llista: Reliefs in Plaça Carles Buïgas, Wikidata: Relleu costat Llobregat (Antoni Parera) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Relleu costat Besòs (Antoni Parera) Q99455881 Llista: Reliefs in Plaça Carles Buïgas, Wikidata: Relleu costat Besòs (Antoni Parera) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rius de la Mediterrània. Ebre (Miquel Blay) Q99455930 Llista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Rius de la Mediterrània. Ebre (Miquel Blay) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rius de l'Atlàntic. Tajo i Guadalquvir (Miquel Blay) Q99455931 Llista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Rius de l'Atlàntic. Tajo i Guadalquvir (Miquel Blay) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Rius del Cantàbric (Miquel Blay) Q99455933 Llista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Rius del Cantàbric (Miquel Blay) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Braser i Victòries (Frederic Llobet) Q99455936 Llista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Braser i Victòries (Frederic Llobet) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Abundantiae (Miquel i Llucià Oslé) Q99455938 Llista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Abundantiae (Miquel i Llucià Oslé) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Navegatio (Miquel i Llucià Oslé) Q99455940 Llista: Font de l'Exposició de 1929, Wikidata: Navegatio (Miquel i Llucià Oslé) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Sarriera (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438411 Llista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Sarriera (Joaquim de Setmenat) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Sentmenat (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438412 Llista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Sentmenat (Joaquim de Setmenat) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Ciutadilla (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438413 Llista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Ciutadilla (Joaquim de Setmenat) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Patiño (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438414 Llista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Patiño (Joaquim de Setmenat) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Jordan de Urries (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438415 Llista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Jordan de Urries (Joaquim de Setmenat) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Osorio (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438416 Llista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Osorio (Joaquim de Setmenat) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Els Despujol (Joaquim de Setmenat i Sarriera) Q99438417 Llista: Jardins de Can Sentmenat, Wikidata: Els Despujol (Joaquim de Setmenat) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Nu femení (Josep Clarà) Q99435496 Llista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Nu de dona (Josep Clarà) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Tors de dona (Josep Clarà) Q99438420 Llista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Tors de dona (Josep Clarà) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dona ajaguda (Josep Clarà) Q99438421 Llista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Dona ajaguda (Josep Clarà) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Discòbol (Josep Clarà) Q99438422 Llista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Discòbol (Josep Clarà) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Joventut (Josep Clarà) Q99438594 Llista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Joventut (Biblioteca Clarà) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dona asseguda (Josep Clarà) Q99438425 Llista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Dona asseguda I (Josep Clarà) COMMONSCAT DIFERENT a Dona asseguda (Josep Clarà) Q99438602 Llista: Jardí de la Biblioteca Clarà, Wikidata: Dona asseguda II (Josep Clarà) </pre></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xqf1pxbqg4e80ryq&action=reply&topic_postId=xqf1pxbqg8ca8vwy#flow-post-xqf1pxbqg8ca8vwy" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> 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href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,451,0,0]}">A <a href="/wiki/Discussi%C3%B3:Font_de_la_Pla%C3%A7a_d%27Espanya#Majúscules" title="Discussió:Font de la Plaça d'Espanya" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Discussió:Font_de_la_Plaça_d'Espanya#Majúscules"},"sa":{"href":"Discussió:Font de la Plaça d'Espanya#Majúscules"},"dsr":[2,56,2,2]}">Discussió:Font de la Plaça d'Espanya#Majúscules</a> la <span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]],"dsr":[60,91,null,null]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Mercè Piqueras"}},"i":0}}]}">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" title="Usuari:Mercè Piqueras" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Usuari:Mercè_Piqueras"},"sa":{"href":"Usuari:Mercè Piqueras"}}">Mercè Piqueras</a> ha argumentat que <a href="/wiki/B%C3%A9_Cultural_d%27Inter%C3%A8s_Local" class="mw-redirect" title="Bé Cultural d'Interès Local" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Bé_Cultural_d'Interès_Local"},"sa":{"href":"Bé Cultural d'Interès Local"},"dsr":[110,173,32,2]}">bé cultural d'interès local</a> hauria d'anar amb minúscules. Com que els mateixos arguments haurien de valdre per tots els BCIL i també per les altres figures de protecció (BCIN, BIC, PH, BI, BC, etc.) crec que val més parlar-ne en un àmbit més general com aquest per tal d'adoptar un criteri uniforme.</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[453,689,0,0]}">Notifico als altres participants de la discussió <span about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]],"dsr":[503,533,null,null]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Paddy Mc Aloon"}},"i":0}}]}">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Usuari:Paddy Mc Aloon" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt2" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon"},"sa":{"href":"Usuari:Paddy Mc Aloon"}}">Paddy Mc Aloon</a>, <span about="#mwt3" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]],"dsr":[535,557,null,null]}" 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class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,153,0,0]}"><i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,153,2,2]}">Per tal de no fer repetir els mateixos arguments, copio aquí el missatge de la Mercè Piqueras que ha començat aquesta discussió al lloc original:</i></p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[155,1433,0,0]}">Independentment de l'estructura de l'article (ara, amb una introducció breu i l'apartat d'història em sembla molt millor), em crida l'atenció veure escrit "Bé Cultural d'Interès Local" amb majúscules a l'inici de cada paraula. Ja sé que l'<a href="/wiki/B%C3%A9_Cultural_d%27Inter%C3%A8s_Local" class="mw-redirect" title="Bé Cultural d'Interès Local" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Bé_Cultural_d'Interès_Local"},"sa":{"href":"Bé Cultural d'Interès Local"},"dsr":[401,442,32,2]}">article</a> al qual enllaça està escrit també així, però em sembla un error. El fet que l'abreviació sigui BCIL no significa que calgui escriure cada paraula amb majúscula. El català és una llengua que no prodiga tant les majúscules com l'anglès o fins i tot el castellà. Hi ha algun document oficial de la Generalitat on estigui escrit així? Jo no n'he trobat cap i, per exemple, en aquesta <a rel="nofollow mw:ExtLink" href="https://cultura.gencat.cat/web/.content/osic/18_normativa/Normativa_2018/Docs_normativa_2018/R_CLT_40_2018_Bases-de-patrimoni.pdf" class="external text" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[836,1006,131,1]}">disposició del Departament de Cultura</a> de 2018, hi diu " El jaciment o jaciments arqueològics o paleontològics on es duguin a terme les actuacions han d'haver estat declarats bé cultural d'interès nacional (BCIN), bé cultural d'interès local (BCIL) o espai de protecció arqueològica (EPA)". En cap d'aquests casos fan servir les majúscules. <a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" title="Usuari:Mercè Piqueras" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Usuari:Mercè_Piqueras"},"sa":{"href":"Usuari:Mercè Piqueras"},"dsr":[1319,1361,25,2]}">Mercè Piqueras</a> (<a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria_Discussi%C3%B3:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" title="Usuari Discussió:Mercè Piqueras" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Usuari_Discussió:Mercè_Piqueras"},"sa":{"href":"Usuari Discussió:Mercè Piqueras"},"dsr":[1363,1406,36,2]}">disc.</a>) 13:04, 11 ago 2022 (CEST)</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x114nydr1jvndlwy#flow-post-x114nydr1jvndlwy" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1660230960" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">16:16, 11 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x114nydr1jvndlwy#flow-post-x114nydr1jvndlwy"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x114nydr1jvndlwy&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies">  <div id="flow-post-x11ezjzu5s9thsy3" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x11ezjzu5s9thsy3" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,528,0,0]}">El document bàsic és la <a rel="nofollow mw:ExtLink" href="https://cultura.gencat.cat/web/.content/dgpc/arxius_i_gestio_documental/07_marc_normatiu/static_file/llei_09_1993.pdf" class="external text" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[26,181,119,1]}">llei del patrimoni cultural català</a>. Efectivament anomena les figures de protecció BCIN, BCIL i béns catalogats tot en minúscules. En una frase curiosa diu: "Els béns culturals d'interès nacional han d'ésser inscrits en el Registre de Béns Culturals d'Interès Nacional". Caldrà reanomenar els articles i passar un bot per coherència, excepte quan es refereixi al registre.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x11ezjzu5s9thsy3#flow-post-x11ezjzu5s9thsy3" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1660242081" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">19:21, 11 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x11ezjzu5s9thsy3#flow-post-x11ezjzu5s9thsy3"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x11ezjzu5s9thsy3&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x12iq7zm3kq49e25" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x12iq7zm3kq49e25" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,523,0,0]}">Discussió prèvia: <a href="/wiki/Discussi%C3%B3:B%C3%A9_Cultural_d%27Inter%C3%A8s_Nacional" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussió:Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Discussió:Bé_Cultural_d'Interès_Nacional"},"sa":{"href":"Discussió:Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional"},"dsr":[20,67,2,2]}">Discussió:Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional</a>, ja s'havia reanomenat i desfet. L'Optimot remet a un document de <a rel="nofollow mw:ExtLink" href="https://aplicacions.llengua.gencat.cat/llc/AppJava/pdf/Majus.pdf#page=18" class="external text" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[134,231,74,1]}">criteris lingüístics</a> de la DG de Política Lingüística, apartat sobre denominacions oficials regulades. Posa com a exemple "el Reial Monestir de Santes Creus és Bé Cultural d’Interès Nacional". Noteu que no diu "és un Bé..." Afegeix que s'escriuen amb minúscules quan es fan servir de manera genèrica.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x12iq7zm3kq49e25#flow-post-x12iq7zm3kq49e25" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=x12jai5nzc9yvt3j" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1660285504" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">07:25, 12 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x12iq7zm3kq49e25#flow-post-x12iq7zm3kq49e25"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x12iq7zm3kq49e25&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y1h1and8t1tpr1" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y1h1and8t1tpr1" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,339,0,0]}">Si ho he entès correctament, usat de forma genèrica: "un bé cultural d'interès nacional/local és una figura de protecció..." Usat com una <i data-parsoid="{"dsr":[144,153,2,2]}">marca</i> oficial: "la Creu de Sant Cugat és Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional". Però, "la Creu de Sant Cugat és un bé cultural d'interès nacional declarat genèricament com a creu de terme".</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[341,863,0,0]}">És a dir, els articles s'haurien de reanomenar amb minúscules. Les etiquetes a Wikidata també s'haurien de canviar. En la discussió inicial de <a href="/wiki/Font_de_la_Pla%C3%A7a_d%27Espanya" title="Font de la Plaça d'Espanya" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Font_de_la_Plaça_d'Espanya"},"sa":{"href":"Font de la Plaça d'Espanya"},"dsr":[488,519,2,2]}">Font de la Plaça d'Espanya</a>, la frase "aquesta obra està declarada Bé Cultural d'Interès Local" sembla correcta. També podria dir "aquesta obra està protegida com a bé cultural d'interès local", o "és un bé cultural d'interès local declarat per l'Ajuntament de Barcelona". Pot dependre en cada cas si s'usa com a marca individual o com a denominació genèrica.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y1h1and8t1tpr1#flow-post-x1y1h1and8t1tpr1" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661507452" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">10:50, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y1h1and8t1tpr1#flow-post-x1y1h1and8t1tpr1"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y1h1and8t1tpr1&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies">  <div id="flow-post-x8ftyneynrfaxcfi" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x8ftyneynrfaxcfi" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Gonzalogram%C3%A0tica" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Gonzalogramàtica</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Gonzalogram%C3%A0tica" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Gonzalogramàtica">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Gonzalogram%C3%A0tica" title="Contribucions/Gonzalogramàtica">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ" data-parsoid="{}"><p id="mwAg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,119,0,0]}">He fet una consulta a Optimot sobre si "Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional" va amb majúscules en les següents oracions:</p> <p id="mwAw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[121,187,0,0]}"><i id="mwBA" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[121,187,2,2]}">Santa Maria de Poblet és un Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional.</i></p> <p id="mwBQ" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[189,263,0,0]}"><i id="mwBg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[189,263,2,2]}">Tinc una llista dels Béns Culturals d'Interès Nacional de Barcelona.</i></p> <p id="mwBw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[265,348,0,0]}"><i id="mwCA" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[265,348,2,2]}">La protecció dels Béns Culturals d'Interès Nacional és un assumpte seriós.</i></p> <p id="mwCQ" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[350,454,0,0]}"><i id="mwCg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[350,454,2,2]}">Els castells de Catalunya són Béns Culturals d'Interès Nacional pel Decret de 22 d'abril de 1949.</i></p> <p id="mwCw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[456,716,0,0]}">El que m'han respost és que les denominacions "s'esmenten com a categories que són i que s'apliquen a realitats que han estat declarades amb aquesta denominació" i que, per tant, s'han d'escriure en majúscules encara que estiguen en plural. Què en penseu?</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x8ftyneynrfaxcfi#flow-post-x8ftyneynrfaxcfi" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1670575236" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">09:40, 9 des 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x8ftyneynrfaxcfi#flow-post-x8ftyneynrfaxcfi"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x8ftyneynrfaxcfi&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies">  <div id="flow-post-x8tgui2z9nxfs2y8" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x8tgui2z9nxfs2y8" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Mercè Piqueras</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria_Discussi%C3%B3:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" class="" title="Usuària Discussió:Mercè Piqueras">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" title="Contribucions/Mercè Piqueras">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ" data-parsoid="{}"><p id="mwAg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,225,0,0]}">Aleshores el DOGC ho escriu malament? Vegeu en aquesta <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://cultura.gencat.cat/web/.content/osic/18_normativa/Normativa_2018/Docs_normativa_2018/R_CLT_40_2018_Bases-de-patrimoni.pdf" class="external text" id="mwAw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[55,197,131,1]}">resolució</a> (les negretes són meves): </p> <p id="mwBA" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[227,558,0,0]}">"L'objecte d'aquestes bases és la concessió de subvencions per contribuir econòmicament durant un període biennal a l'execució d'obres de consolidació o de restauració d'immobles situats a Catalunya i protegits en qualitat de <b id="mwBQ" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[460,501,3,3]}">béns culturals d'interès nacional</b> (BCIN) o <b id="mwBg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[511,549,3,3]}">béns culturals d'interès local</b> (BCIL)."</p> <p id="mwBw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[560,673,0,0]}">"Si els béns són propietat de persones físiques, han d'estar situats a Catalunya i han d'haver estat declarats</p> <p id="mwCA" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[675,791,0,0]}"><b id="mwCQ" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[675,716,3,3]}">béns culturals d'interès nacional</b> (BCIN), d'acord amb l'article 30 de la Llei 9/1993, de 30 de setembre, del</p> <p id="mwCg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[793,821,0,0]}">patrimoni cultural català."</p> <p id="mwCw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[823,844,0,0]}">I també en singular:</p> <p id="mwDA" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[846,1106,0,0]}">"El jaciment o jaciments arqueològics o paleontològics on es duguin a terme les actuacions han d'haver estat declarats <b id="mwDQ" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[967,1005,3,3]}">bé cultural d'interès nacional</b> (BCIN), <b id="mwDg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[1014,1049,3,3]}">bé cultural d'interès local</b> (BCIL) o <b id="mwDw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[1059,1098,3,3]}">espai de protecció arqueològica</b> (EPA)."</p> <p id="mwEA" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[1108,1227,0,0]}">"En el cas d'un <b id="mwEQ" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[1124,1158,3,3]}">be cultural d'interès local</b> (BCIL), declaració —que consta en el formulari de sol·licitud—</p> <p id="mwEg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[1229,1341,0,0]}">conforme el jaciment o jaciments objecte d'actuació han estat declarats BCIL, si l'acord de declaració no s'ha</p> <p id="mwEw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[1343,1455,0,0]}">comunicat al Departament de Cultura a l'efecte de la inscripció en el Catàleg del Patrimoni Cultural Català."</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x8ftyneynrfaxcfi#flow-post-x8ftyneynrfaxcfi" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1671104107" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:35, 15 des 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x8tgui2z9nxfs2y8#flow-post-x8tgui2z9nxfs2y8"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x8tgui2z9nxfs2y8&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x8ridnlmk8b92xwi" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x8ridnlmk8b92xwi" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ" data-parsoid="{}"><p id="mwAg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,239,0,0]}">Doncs penso que ens hauríem d'anar aclarint, perquè hem reanomenat els articles uns quants cops per canviar de caixa, i ara mateix tenim un company canviant-los un altre cop pel seu compte i sense participar en les discussions anteriors.</p> <p id="mwAw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[241,355,0,0]}">Afortunadament no està esborrant les redireccions, cosa que dintre de tot no deixa de ser una agradable sorpresa.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x8ridnlmk8b92xwi#flow-post-x8ridnlmk8b92xwi" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1671028186" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">15:29, 14 des 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x8ridnlmk8b92xwi#flow-post-x8ridnlmk8b92xwi"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x8ridnlmk8b92xwi&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x8riqur2j4rr09ss" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x8riqur2j4rr09ss" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ" data-parsoid="{}"><p id="mwAg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,26,0,0]}">Em xiulen les orelles.<span typeof="mw:DisplaySpace" id="mwAw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[22,23,0,0]}"> </span>:-)</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span 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class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x8riqur2j4rr09ss#flow-post-x8riqur2j4rr09ss"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x8riqur2j4rr09ss&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x8rjs0e52ph075my" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x8rjs0e52ph075my" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ" data-parsoid="{}"><p id="mwAg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,248,0,0]}">El canvi que acabo de veure no és teu. Ara tenim una sola llista de BCIN amb minúscula a <a href="/wiki/Categoria:Llistes_de_B%C3%A9ns_Culturals_d%27Inter%C3%A8s_Nacional" title="Categoria:Llistes de Béns Culturals d'Interès Nacional" rel="mw:WikiLink" id="mwAw" data-parsoid="{"stx":"simple","a":{"href":"./Categoria:Llistes_de_Béns_Culturals_d'Interès_Nacional"},"sa":{"href":":Categoria:Llistes de Béns Culturals d'Interès Nacional"},"dsr":[91,152,2,2]}">Categoria:Llistes de Béns Culturals d'Interès Nacional</a>, en contra de com estan totes les altres i en contra de la proposta d'en Gonzalo de més amunt.</p> <p id="mwBA" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[250,329,0,0]}">Ara bé, <a href="/wiki/Excusatio_non_petita,_accusatio_manifesta" title="Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta" rel="mw:WikiLink" id="mwBQ" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Excusatio_non_petita,_accusatio_manifesta"},"sa":{"href":"Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta"},"dsr":[259,324,44,2]}">em deixes preocupat</a>.<span typeof="mw:DisplaySpace" id="mwBg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[325,326,0,0]}"> </span>:-)</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x8rjs0e52ph075my#flow-post-x8rjs0e52ph075my" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1671029693" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">15:54, 14 des 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x8rjs0e52ph075my#flow-post-x8rjs0e52ph075my"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x8rjs0e52ph075my&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x95nhlhwv3pfvtxm" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x95nhlhwv3pfvtxm" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Gonzalogram%C3%A0tica" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Gonzalogramàtica</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Gonzalogram%C3%A0tica" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Gonzalogramàtica">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Gonzalogram%C3%A0tica" title="Contribucions/Gonzalogramàtica">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ" data-parsoid="{}"><p id="mwAg" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,474,0,0]}">Propose que li plantegem el dubte directament a l'IEC, a través del <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://www.iec.cat/Seccions/Filologica/consultes/consultesllengua.asp" class="external text" id="mwAw" data-parsoid="{"dsr":[69,161,72,1]}">formulari en línia</a>. En la meua opinió, l'IEC és la màxima autoritat en l'ús de les majúscules en català, independentment de com aparega al DOGC. Què en penseu? Ara bé, en el cas de les majúscules en regnes i imperis s'ha contradit la normativa de l'IEC per consens de la Viquipèdia; es podria fer el mateix en aquest cas.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y1h1and8t1tpr1#flow-post-x1y1h1and8t1tpr1" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1671576692" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">23:51, 20 des 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x95nhlhwv3pfvtxm#flow-post-x95nhlhwv3pfvtxm"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x95nhlhwv3pfvtxm&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y2n1cwxa3c7tew" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y2n1cwxa3c7tew" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,769,0,0]}">Crec que hi ha una certa confusió terminològica entre declaració, protecció i catalogació. Una declaració de Bé Cultural no només pot aplicar-se a edificis, escultures o altres obres artístiques, sinó també manifestacions culturals com festes majors, per exemple. Protecció implica l'existència d'una normativa (normalment un Pla Especial de Protecció) que especifica els tipus d'intervencions permeses en el bé protegit (que es compleixen o no, és un altre tema). Catalogació és simplement la inclusió en un llistat o fitxer amb la informació relativa a l'element en qüestió. En el cas de Barcelona hi un Catàleg de Patrimoni vinculat als 10 Plans Especials de Protecció (un per cada districte), que estableixen quatre categories de protecció:</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[771,779,0,0]}">A = BCIN</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[781,789,0,0]}">B = BCIL</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[791,860,0,0]}">C = Bé d'Interès Urbanístic (o també Bé amb elements d'interès)</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[862,892,0,0]}">D = Bé d'Interès Documental </p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[894,1105,0,0]}">La categoria D comporta l'obligació de documentar el bé protegit abans d'enderrocar-lo, i el PEPPA de Ciutat Vella atorga aquesta categoria a tots els edificis (en realitat finques) que no estiguin catalogats.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y2n1cwxa3c7tew#flow-post-x1y2n1cwxa3c7tew" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=x1y3o87c0tg21hnz" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661509822" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:30, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y2n1cwxa3c7tew#flow-post-x1y2n1cwxa3c7tew"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y2n1cwxa3c7tew&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies">  <div id="flow-post-x1y4gfgnp0qlkkyy" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y4gfgnp0qlkkyy" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,319,0,0]}">Hi estic d'acord, però no acabo d'entendre perquè ho dius. Si és per l'exemple "un BCIN/BCIL és una figura de protecció" em remeto a la llei de patrimoni enllaçada més amunt. Tot el títol segon està dedicat a la protecció. La declaració implica protecció. Però bé, ens desviem del tema de les majúscules.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y4gfgnp0qlkkyy#flow-post-x1y4gfgnp0qlkkyy" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661510666" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:44, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y4gfgnp0qlkkyy#flow-post-x1y4gfgnp0qlkkyy"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y4gfgnp0qlkkyy&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y5yrehcibh0to2" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y5yrehcibh0to2" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,462,0,0]}">Crec que en aquest és pertinent aclarir el significat i les implicacions legals de l'expressió "bé cultural d'interès local" i semblants. Com tu has dit, una declaració de BCIL implica protecció, però qui ha d'aplicar la figura creada en la Llei del Patrimoni Català són els Ajuntaments, i en el cas de Barcelona, hi ha un PEPPA per cada districte que especifica quins són els bens protegits i quines són les intervencions permeses en cadascun d'ells.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y2n1cwxa3c7tew#flow-post-x1y2n1cwxa3c7tew" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661512292" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:11, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y5yrehcibh0to2#flow-post-x1y5yrehcibh0to2"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y5yrehcibh0to2&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y303p6lyliixy9" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y303p6lyliixy9" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,142,0,0]}">Encara que els BCIL els gestionin els Ajuntaments, qui s'encarrega de les declaracions (i també de les "desdeclaracions") és la Generalitat.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y303p6lyliixy9#flow-post-x1y303p6lyliixy9" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=x1y30qjy3xx57p3i" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661509119" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:18, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y303p6lyliixy9#flow-post-x1y303p6lyliixy9"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y303p6lyliixy9&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y4mjlh58p275vt" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y4mjlh58p275vt" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,419,0,0]}">Article 17.2: "La competència per a la declaració de béns culturals d'interès local correspon al ple de l'ajuntament, en els municipis de més de cinc mil habitants, i al ple del consell comarcal, en els municipis de fins a cinc mil habitants." Ara bé, com tot, no es considera efectiu fins que no es publica al DOGC. Si vols podem obrir altres fils per discutir altres qüestions. Aquest va sobre les majúscules.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y4mjlh58p275vt#flow-post-x1y4mjlh58p275vt" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=x1y4njomydz9xs0s" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661510879" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:47, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y4mjlh58p275vt#flow-post-x1y4mjlh58p275vt"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y4mjlh58p275vt&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y4snqa6jagab61" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y4snqa6jagab61" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,366,0,0]}">El meu comentari era una resposta al teu anterior i també per donar més informació al@s company@s. L'expressió "declarat bé cultural d'interès local" em sembla correcta, però "protegida com a bé cultural d'interès local" no, a menys que diguessim "inclosa en el Pla Especial de Protecció del Patrimoni Arquitectònic X com a bé cultural d'interès local".</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y4snqa6jagab61#flow-post-x1y4snqa6jagab61" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=x1y54vzvw5rzilbh" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661511398" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:56, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y4snqa6jagab61#flow-post-x1y4snqa6jagab61"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y4snqa6jagab61&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y6wt681drtajji" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y6wt681drtajji" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,350,0,0]}">Article 39: "Règim de protecció. La declaració d'un immoble com a bé cultural d'interès local comporta l'aplicació immediata del règim jurídic que aquesta Llei estableix per als béns catalogats. Qualsevol norma addicional de protecció d'aquests béns s'ha d'establir mitjançant els instruments determinats per la legislació urbanística."</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y6wt681drtajji#flow-post-x1y6wt681drtajji" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661513311" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:28, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y6wt681drtajji#flow-post-x1y6wt681drtajji"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y6wt681drtajji&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y78kljbbva3yng" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y78kljbbva3yng" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,358,0,0]}">Efectivament, els "instruments determinats per la legislació urbanística" són els Plans Especials de Protecció, com els PEPPA de cadascun del 10 districtes municipals de Barcelona. Per això crec, que si diem "declarat bé cultural d'interès local" i (en el cas de Barcelona) posem un enllaç a la fitxa del Catàleg de Patrimoni no cal afegir res més.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y78kljbbva3yng#flow-post-x1y78kljbbva3yng" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=x1y7jtzaloj992dj" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661514000" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:40, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y78kljbbva3yng#flow-post-x1y78kljbbva3yng"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y78kljbbva3yng&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y7mqmuq5nydu1p" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y7mqmuq5nydu1p" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,71,0,0]}">A veure, a Barcelona hi ha algun BCIL declarat que no estigui protegit?</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[73,318,0,0]}">Addicionalment, és possible que hi hagi algun BCIL que no estigui protegit? O sigui, entre el moment que es publica el BCIL i el moment que el pla de protecció concreta exactament què es pot fer i què no, no hi ha una protecció per defecte?</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y7mqmuq5nydu1p#flow-post-x1y7mqmuq5nydu1p" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661514087" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:41, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y7mqmuq5nydu1p#flow-post-x1y7mqmuq5nydu1p"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y7mqmuq5nydu1p&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies">  <div id="flow-post-x1y87f8kadjzawa8" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y87f8kadjzawa8" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,357,0,0]}">Diguem que la Llei del Patrimoni Català és una llei general que dona cobertura a la figura de Bé Cultural (BCIN i BCIL), però després hi ha d'haver una legislació de la desenvolupi, i sobretot, que resolgui els possibles conflictes que hi hagi entre la protecció i el planejament urbanístic. Per això es van crear els Plans Especials de Protecció.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y87f8kadjzawa8#flow-post-x1y87f8kadjzawa8" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661514706" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:51, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y87f8kadjzawa8#flow-post-x1y87f8kadjzawa8"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y87f8kadjzawa8&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y8s3ubkm77ypib" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y8s3ubkm77ypib" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,162,0,0]}">Pere, una vegada declarat no es pot enderrocar, per posar un exemple extrem. Els plans especials especifiquen proteccions addicionals a les que ja tenen per llei.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y8s3ubkm77ypib#flow-post-x1y8s3ubkm77ypib" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661515325" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">13:02, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y8s3ubkm77ypib#flow-post-x1y8s3ubkm77ypib"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y8s3ubkm77ypib&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y9bl53nqx9fbl7" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y9bl53nqx9fbl7" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,393,0,0]}">Més que "addicionals", jo diria més específiques per a cada cas. Tot i així, han fet autèntiques barbaritats en edificis declarats BCIL, com p.ex. en dos palaus del carrer Montcada afectats (terme de la legislació urbanística) per l'ampliació del Museu Picasso. Casualment just abans que s'aprovés el Pla Especial de Protecció del Patrimoni Arquitectònic de Ciutat Vella l'any 2000.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y7mqmuq5nydu1p#flow-post-x1y7mqmuq5nydu1p" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661515908" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">13:11, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y9bl53nqx9fbl7#flow-post-x1y9bl53nqx9fbl7"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y9bl53nqx9fbl7&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y7y4tu1ttsy929" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y7y4tu1ttsy929" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,302,0,0]}">Potser no és exactament la resposta a la teva pregunta, però et puc dir que hi ha BCILs que a l'última revisió del PEPPA de Ciutat Vella (em sembla que el 2016) van deixar de ser-ho i ara tenen una protecció dintre de la categoria C, com per exemple <a href="/wiki/Capella_de_l%27Hospital_de_Sant_Sever" class="mw-redirect" title="Capella de l'Hospital de Sant Sever" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Capella_de_l'Hospital_de_Sant_Sever"},"sa":{"href":"Capella de l'Hospital de Sant Sever"},"dsr":[255,301,38,2]}">aquest</a>.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y7y4tu1ttsy929#flow-post-x1y7y4tu1ttsy929" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661514428" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:47, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y7y4tu1ttsy929#flow-post-x1y7y4tu1ttsy929"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y7y4tu1ttsy929&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y99qzccu55rptg" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y99qzccu55rptg" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,198,0,0]}">No. No és una resposta a la meva pregunta. Seria una resposta a la meva pregunta dir que van haver-hi un moment que certs elements eren declarats BCIL sense ser protegits com a BCIL o a l'inrevés.</p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[200,364,0,0]}">I donat que la simple declaració de BCIL ja implica una protecció, no veig cap error dir que un element està protegit com a BCIL o que està declarat com a BCIL.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1y99qzccu55rptg#flow-post-x1y99qzccu55rptg" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661515853" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">13:10, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y99qzccu55rptg#flow-post-x1y99qzccu55rptg"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y99qzccu55rptg&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1y9irrnr9hkuwcc" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1y9irrnr9hkuwcc" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,554,0,0]}">És veritat que "la simple declaració de BCIL ja implica una protecció", pero en el cas de Barcelona hi ha un PEPPA per cada districte al que s'hauria de fer referència quan es diu "protegit". Pots dir: "declarat BCIL" , o bé "inclòs en el Catàleg de Patrimoni com a BCIL", o "inclòs en el Pla Especial de Protecció del Patrimoni Arquitectònic del districte tal com a BCIL", i afegir la referència corresponent, p.ex. l'enllaç a la fitxa del Catàleg. Òbviament, quan es tracta d'edificis no declarats BCIL, la primera opció no s'hi aplica. </p> <p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[556,695,0,0]}">En el cas de Ciutat Vella tots els edificis no catalogats expressament tenen el nivell D, així que tampoc s'hi aplicaria la segona opció.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x114nydr1jvndlwy#flow-post-x114nydr1jvndlwy" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=x1y9x683y0esua1t" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1661516554" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">13:22, 26 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1y9irrnr9hkuwcc#flow-post-x1y9irrnr9hkuwcc"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1y9irrnr9hkuwcc&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x1152sh4wyywn8pa" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x1152sh4wyywn8pa" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,88,0,0]}">Jo posaria directament <a href="/wiki/B%C3%A9_Cultural_d%27Inter%C3%A8s_Local" class="mw-redirect" title="Bé Cultural d'Interès Local" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Bé_Cultural_d'Interès_Local"},"sa":{"href":"Bé Cultural d'Interès Local"},"dsr":[23,61,32,2]}">BCIL</a> amb l'enllaç a l'article.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x1152sh4wyywn8pa#flow-post-x1152sh4wyywn8pa" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1660231404" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">16:23, 11 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x1152sh4wyywn8pa#flow-post-x1152sh4wyywn8pa"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x1152sh4wyywn8pa&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x115a3wxaaodv12i" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x115a3wxaaodv12i" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,195,0,0]}">En alguns llocs pot ser adient, però no a tot arreu. A més, el primer cop que s'esmenta una sigla és recomanable posar-la sense abreviar. No tots els nostres lectors són experts en patrimoni.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x115a3wxaaodv12i#flow-post-x115a3wxaaodv12i" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1660231623" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">16:27, 11 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x115a3wxaaodv12i#flow-post-x115a3wxaaodv12i"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x115a3wxaaodv12i&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x115w88sp2vgr0ze" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x115w88sp2vgr0ze" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Mercè Piqueras</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria_Discussi%C3%B3:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" class="" title="Usuària Discussió:Mercè Piqueras">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" title="Contribucions/Mercè Piqueras">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,459,0,0]}"><span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-parsoid="{"pi":[[{"k":"1"}]],"dsr":[0,30,null,null]}" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Paddy Mc Aloon"}},"i":0}}]}">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Usuari:Paddy Mc Aloon" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon"},"sa":{"href":"Usuari:Paddy Mc Aloon"}}">Paddy Mc Aloon</a>, no entenc què proposes. Escriure només les sigles? Sempre que en un article surten unes sigles, la primera vegada se n'ha d'explicar el significat. Se'n pot fer excepcions, en les que són molt conegudes, com ara la ONU, la SEAT o una ONG. Però les sigles que fan referència als bens culturals no són de coneixement general (jo mateixa, fins que no vaig veure l'article de la font de la plaça d'Espanya, les desconeixia).</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x115w88sp2vgr0ze#flow-post-x115w88sp2vgr0ze" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1660232285" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">16:38, 11 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x115w88sp2vgr0ze#flow-post-x115w88sp2vgr0ze"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x115w88sp2vgr0ze&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x11s1ymmeongo1cv" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x11s1ymmeongo1cv" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,109,0,0]}">Em referia a que les sigles <a href="/wiki/B%C3%A9_Cultural_d%27Inter%C3%A8s_Local" class="mw-redirect" title="Bé Cultural d'Interès Local" rel="mw:WikiLink" data-parsoid="{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./Bé_Cultural_d'Interès_Local"},"sa":{"href":"Bé Cultural d'Interès Local"},"dsr":[28,66,32,2]}">BCIL</a> portin l'enllaç a l'article corresponent.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x11s1ymmeongo1cv#flow-post-x11s1ymmeongo1cv" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1660256159" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">23:15, 11 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x11s1ymmeongo1cv#flow-post-x11s1ymmeongo1cv"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x11s1ymmeongo1cv&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x12uwimcc1l5o89r" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x12uwimcc1l5o89r" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,449,0,0]}">Els enllaços ens permeten relaxar una mica la necessitat d'explicar sempre les sigles i els termes tècnics, comparat amb el que hauríem de fer en una publicació en paper sense enllaços, i això pot ser útil en llocs on l'espai sigui un problema, com ara una llista. Ara bé, a l'article d'un monument segueix essent una bona pràctica escriure Bé Cultural d'Interès Local amb totes les lletres el primer cop que surti, a més d'enllaçar-lo.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x12uwimcc1l5o89r#flow-post-x12uwimcc1l5o89r" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1660298014" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">10:53, 12 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x12uwimcc1l5o89r#flow-post-x12uwimcc1l5o89r"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x12uwimcc1l5o89r&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-x12xaq515pp97ah7" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="x12xaq515pp97ah7" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" data-parsoid="{}"><p data-parsoid="{"dsr":[0,19,0,0]}">Em sembla correcte.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x12xaq515pp97ah7#flow-post-x12xaq515pp97ah7" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1660300594" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:36, 12 ago 2022</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 2 anys</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=x12xaq515pp97ah7#flow-post-x12xaq515pp97ah7"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=x12xaq515pp97ah7&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xonnr1ivv94x68av" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xonnr1ivv94x68av" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Rellegint el fil em perdo buscant quin va ser finalment el consens. Crec que ara ho teníem tot en minúscula fins a l'edició <a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1019352&diff=prev&oldid=1930164442" class="external autonumber" id="mwAw"></a> de l'<span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Arnaugir"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwBA">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Arnaugir" title="Usuari:Arnaugir" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" id="mwBQ">Arnaugir</a> a Wikidata. Anava a revertir-la amb un missatge a la discussió però primer he volgut passar per aquí per confirmar que s'ha de posar aquest en minúscula i no tots els altres amb majúscula, però no trobo la conclusió de la conversa.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=xonnr1ivv94x68av#flow-post-xonnr1ivv94x68av" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=xonnrid5dhher3bm" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1693219462" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">11:44, 28 ago 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=xonnr1ivv94x68av#flow-post-xonnr1ivv94x68av"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xonnr1ivv94x68av&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xpa1npf6a45he15t" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xpa1npf6a45he15t" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg"><span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Arnaugir"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwAw">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Arnaugir" title="Usuari:Arnaugir" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" id="mwBA">Arnaugir</a> Et sembla bé si desfaig l'edició a Wikidata?</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=xpa1npf6a45he15t#flow-post-xpa1npf6a45he15t" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1694087719" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:55, 7 set 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=xpa1npf6a45he15t#flow-post-xpa1npf6a45he15t"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xpa1npf6a45he15t&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xpa8q984mukvfyoa" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xpa8q984mukvfyoa" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Paddy Mc Aloon</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Paddy Mc Aloon">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Contribucions/Paddy Mc Aloon">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Jo crec que quan hi un acrònim (en aquest cas, BCIN), les inicials han d'anar en majúscula.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a 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href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=xpa8q984mukvfyoa#flow-post-xpa8q984mukvfyoa"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xpa8q984mukvfyoa&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xpahmfjxy3zjg1dz" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xpahmfjxy3zjg1dz" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Mercè Piqueras</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria_Discussi%C3%B3:Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" class="" title="Usuària Discussió:Mercè Piqueras">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Merc%C3%A8_Piqueras" title="Contribucions/Mercè Piqueras">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg"><span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Paddy Mc Aloon"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwAw">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Paddy_Mc_Aloon" title="Usuari:Paddy Mc Aloon" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" id="mwBA">Paddy Mc Aloon</a>, BCIN no és un acrònim, sinó una sigla; és a dir, el conjunt de les lletres inicials d'una o més paraules que s'empren com a abreviació. Els acrònims es formen per la unió de diverses lletres o síl·labes de diverses paraules (ex. mòdem, Europol, Benelux, Termcat).</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=xpahmfjxy3zjg1dz#flow-post-xpahmfjxy3zjg1dz" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1694104919" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">17:41, 7 set 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=xpahmfjxy3zjg1dz#flow-post-xpahmfjxy3zjg1dz"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xpahmfjxy3zjg1dz&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xpc322piafg3az40" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xpc322piafg3az40" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">De moment la pregunta no era per tornar a obrir al debat (que també seria legítim) sinó per confirmar com va acabar fa un any, perquè no tenim el bon costum d'escriure les conclusions, i suposo que en format poc formal com aquest i amb converses que se'n van per les branques potser tampoc seria adient.</p> <p id="mwAw">Ara bé, tenint en compte que després d'aquest fil vam deixar totes les etiquetes de les figues de protecció en minúscula (quan se n'escriu el nom sencer i no només les sigles), que això lliga força amb la majoria d'intervencions en aquest fil, i que l'única excepció és una edició a Wikidata<a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1019352&diff=prev&oldid=1930164442" class="external autonumber" id="mwBA"></a> de l'<span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Arnaugir"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwBQ">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Arnaugir" title="Usuari:Arnaugir" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" id="mwBg">Arnaugir</a>, que no ha dit res, en una sola figura de protecció, torno a deixar <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1019352" title="d:Q1019352" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" class="extiw" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"Q","href":"./Plantilla:Q"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"1019352"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwBw">Bé Cultural d<span typeof="mw:Entity">'</span>Interès Nacional<span typeof="mw:Entity"> </span><small>(Q1019352)</small></a> en minúscula com les altres figures.</p> <p id="mwCA">Si en voleu seguir parlant (preferiblement amb arguments nous) fantàstic, però com a mínim mentre en parlem estarà tot amb un criteri raonablement uniforme.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=xpc322piafg3az40#flow-post-xpc322piafg3az40" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1694166798" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">10:53, 8 set 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=xpc322piafg3az40#flow-post-xpc322piafg3az40"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xpc322piafg3az40&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xpehzxbepjqrhdek" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xpehzxbepjqrhdek" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Arnaugir" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Arnaugir</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Arnaugir" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Arnaugir">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Arnaugir" title="Contribucions/Arnaugir">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Pere, em sembla bé. Gràcies.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x114ess75uh6jd8u#flow-post-x114ess75uh6jd8u" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1694260466" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">12:54, 9 set 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&topic_showPostId=xpehzxbepjqrhdek#flow-post-xpehzxbepjqrhdek"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xpehzxbepjqrhdek&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> <script name="handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" type="text/x-handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" data-type="replace" data-target="~ a" > <form class="flow-post flow-reply-form" method="POST" action="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:X114ess75uh6jd8u&action=reply&topic_postId=x114ess75uh6jd8u#flow-post-x114ess75uh6jd8u-form-content" id="flow-reply-x114ess75uh6jd8u" > <input type="hidden" name="wpEditToken" value="+\" /> <input type="hidden" name="topic_replyTo" value="x114ess75uh6jd8u" /> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <div class="flow-anon-warning"> <div class="flow-anon-warning-mobile"> <div class="flow-form-collapsible flow-ui-tooltip mw-ui-progressive flow-ui-tooltip-down flow-ui-tooltip-block plainlinks">No heu iniciat cap sessió. 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class="flow-topic-titlebar"> <div class="flow-topic-titlebar-container"> <h2 class="flow-topic-title flow-load-interactive " data-flow-topic-title="Enllaços diba a Wikidata" data-flow-load-handler="topicTitle" > Enllaços diba a Wikidata</h2> <div class="flow-topic-meta"> 3 comentaris • <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1693857521" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">20:58, 4 set 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </div> <span class="flow-reply-count"><span class="flow-reply-count-number">3</span></span> </div> <div class="flow-topic-summary-container " > <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before 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href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=edit-topic-summary"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-listBullet"><span>Resum</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=moderate-topic&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_topic.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga el tema</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xp3zj7o41r0ju79c" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xp3zj7o41r0ju79c" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Com que no tenim una propietat a Wikidata per les fitxes dels mapes de patrimoni de la Diputació de Barcelona, fa un temps que quan n'importo elements a Wikidata poso l'enllaç de la fitxa com a <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P973" title="d:Property:P973" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" class="extiw" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"P","href":"./Plantilla:P"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"973"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwAw">Descrit a l<span typeof="mw:Entity">'</span>URL<span typeof="mw:Entity"> </span><small>(P973)</small></a> (per exemple a <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q122047801" title="d:Q122047801" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" class="extiw" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"Q","href":"./Plantilla:Q"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"122047801"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwBA">Creu del camí de Paller<span typeof="mw:Entity"> </span><small>(Q122047801)</small></a>).</p> <p id="mwBQ">Ara miraré de pujar a Wikidata els enllaços diba que hi ha a les llistes, posant-los de la mateixa manera.</p> <p id="mwBg">Ho dic per si hi ha algun comentari.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=reply&topic_postId=xp3zj7o41r0ju79c#flow-post-xp3zj7o41r0ju79c" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1693852715" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">19:38, 4 set 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&topic_showPostId=xp3zj7o41r0ju79c#flow-post-xp3zj7o41r0ju79c"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xp3zj7o41r0ju79c&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xp43ch8qszuamro3" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xp43ch8qszuamro3" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Amadalvarez" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Amadalvarez</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Amadalvarez" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Amadalvarez">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Amadalvarez" title="Contribucions/Amadalvarez">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Em sembla una bona pràctica.</p> <p id="mwAw">No sé si creieu que pagui la pena demanar una propietat. Em sembla que per bona que sigui la web, tenir una propietat per un abast limitat només a una demarcació de Catalunya és poc ambiciós. La solució que explica <span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Pere prlpz"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwBA">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" title="Usuari:Pere prlpz" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" id="mwBQ">Pere prlpz</a> sembla prou útil.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=reply&topic_postId=xp43ch8qszuamro3#flow-post-xp43ch8qszuamro3" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=xp43dkxu4lh1lz47" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1693856856" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">20:47, 4 set 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&topic_showPostId=xp43ch8qszuamro3#flow-post-xp43ch8qszuamro3"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xp43ch8qszuamro3&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xp43yssgun8srt7g" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xp43yssgun8srt7g" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Segurament seria més útil la propietat, i també una per poblesdecatalunya.cat que l'estic pujant igual, i per uns quants webs més. Ara bé, les propietats porten una feina que no estem fent, per començar la de demanar-les i per continuar la de mantenir-les i explotar-les. Només cal veure que la <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1296" title="d:Property:P1296" about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" class="extiw" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"P","href":"./Plantilla:P"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"1296"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwAw">Identificador Gran Enciclopèdia Catalana<span typeof="mw:Entity"> </span><small>(P1296)</small></a> fa molt que està obsoleta i no l'hem actualitzat, i que la plantilla <span style="white-space:nowrap;" about="#mwt2" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"tl","href":"./Plantilla:Tl"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Autoritat"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwBA"><span typeof="mw:Entity">{</span>{<a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Autoritat" title="Plantilla:Autoritat" rel="mw:WikiLink">Autoritat</a>}}</span> està sense mantenir de fa anys i no enllaça la majoria de fonts d'informació que hi a Wikidata (amb l'agreujant que com que està feta amb un mòdul hi ha molt pocs editors que la podrien editar, si s'hi posessin).</p> <p id="mwBQ">Aleshores, estaria bé tenir identificadors però de moment estic tirant pel dret amb <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P973" title="d:Property:P973" about="#mwt5" typeof="mw:Transclusion" class="extiw" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"P","href":"./Plantilla:P"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"973"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwBg">Descrit a l<span typeof="mw:Entity">'</span>URL<span typeof="mw:Entity"> </span><small>(P973)</small></a>.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=reply&topic_postId=xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4#flow-post-xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <span> Modificat </span> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=compare-post-revisions&topic_newRevision=xp43zsvkpd855keq" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1693857521" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">20:58, 4 set 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&topic_showPostId=xp43yssgun8srt7g#flow-post-xp43yssgun8srt7g"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xp43yssgun8srt7g&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> <script name="handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" type="text/x-handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" data-type="replace" data-target="~ a" > <form class="flow-post flow-reply-form" method="POST" action="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4&action=reply&topic_postId=xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4#flow-post-xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4-form-content" id="flow-reply-xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4" > <input type="hidden" name="wpEditToken" value="+\" /> <input type="hidden" name="topic_replyTo" value="xp3zj7o41n2hm3b4" /> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <div class="flow-anon-warning"> <div class="flow-anon-warning-mobile"> <div class="flow-form-collapsible flow-ui-tooltip mw-ui-progressive flow-ui-tooltip-down flow-ui-tooltip-block plainlinks">No heu iniciat cap sessió. 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class="flow-topic-titlebar"> <div class="flow-topic-titlebar-container"> <h2 class="flow-topic-title flow-load-interactive " data-flow-topic-title="Referència dels BIC balears" data-flow-load-handler="topicTitle" > Referència dels BIC balears</h2> <div class="flow-topic-meta"> 3 comentaris • <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1689270922" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">18:55, 13 jul 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </div> <span class="flow-reply-count"><span class="flow-reply-count-number">3</span></span> </div> <div class="flow-topic-summary-container " > <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show topic action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet flow-ui-edit-title-link" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=edit-title&topic_postId=xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&topic_format=wikitext"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-edit"><span>Modifica el títol</span></span></a></li><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=history"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-clock"><span>Historial</span></span></a></li><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet flow-ui-summarize-topic-link" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=edit-topic-summary"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-listBullet"><span>Resum</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=moderate-topic&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_topic.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga el tema</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xltsc9zgcysedj29" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xltsc9zgcysedj29" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">S'ha proposat per esborrar l'article <a href="/wiki/Ses_Pedreres_/_Vinrom%C3%A0" title="Ses Pedreres / Vinromà" rel="mw:WikiLink" id="mwAw">Ses Pedreres / Vinromà</a>, que és un BIC de Mallorca, per manca d'admissibilitat.</p> <p id="mwBA"><span about="#mwt1" typeof="mw:Transclusion" data-mw="{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"FlowMention","href":"./Plantilla:FlowMention"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"Vriullop"}},"i":0}}]}" id="mwBQ">@</span><a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" title="Usuari:Vriullop" rel="mw:WikiLink" about="#mwt1" id="mwBg">Vriullop</a> Crec que recordar que les fonts dels BIC balears eren una mica caòtiques. Saps d'on van sortir i on hi podríem trobar aquest?</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=reply&topic_postId=xltsc9zgcysedj29#flow-post-xltsc9zgcysedj29" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1689268242" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">18:10, 13 jul 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&topic_showPostId=xltsc9zgcysedj29#flow-post-xltsc9zgcysedj29"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xltsc9zgcysedj29&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xlttyjv8h6xt5o5y" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xlttyjv8h6xt5o5y" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Vriullop" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Vriullop</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Vriullop" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Vriullop">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Vriullop" title="Contribucions/Vriullop">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Surt de la base de dades del ministeri que no permet deeplink a la fitxa. L'enllaç general que hi ha a la llista està trencat. El bo és a la llista de Formentera. Cercant la numeració 0002475 en el camp general hauria de sortir la fitxa. Ara no ho puc comprovar perquè el formulari no funciona amb mòbil. A més, amb el visor de Mallorca que hi ha enllaçat es van trobar les coordenades i el nom oficial.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=reply&topic_postId=xlttyjv8h6xt5o5y#flow-post-xlttyjv8h6xt5o5y" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1689269986" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">18:39, 13 jul 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&topic_showPostId=xlttyjv8h6xt5o5y#flow-post-xlttyjv8h6xt5o5y"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xlttyjv8h6xt5o5y&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div>  <div id="flow-post-xltuttsn8udmjysw" class="flow-post" data-flow-id="xltuttsn8udmjysw" > <div class="flow-post-main"> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <span class="flow-author"> <a href="/wiki/Usuari:Pere_prlpz" class="mw-userlink"> <bdi>Pere prlpz</bdi></a><span class="mw-usertoollinks flow-pipelist"> (<span><a href="/wiki/Usuari_Discussi%C3%B3:Pere_prlpz" class="" title="Usuari Discussió:Pere prlpz">discussió</a></span><span><a href="/wiki/Especial:Contribucions/Pere_prlpz" title="Contribucions/Pere prlpz">contribucions</a></span>) </span> </span> <article class="flow-post-content mw-parser-output"><section data-mw-section-id="0" id="mwAQ"><p id="mwAg">Gràcies. Després de comprovar que hi surt he posat a l'article l'enllaç a la base de dades com a referència i ho he explicat a la proposta d'esborrat.</p></section></article> <div class="flow-post-meta"> <span class="flow-post-meta-actions"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=reply&topic_postId=xltsc9zgcuuc5f41#flow-post-xltsc9zgcuuc5f41" title="Respon" class="mw-ui-anchor mw-ui-progressive mw-ui-quiet flow-reply-link" >Respon</a> </span> <span class="flow-post-timestamp"> <a href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=history" class="flow-timestamp-anchor"> <span datetime="1689270922" class="flow-timestamp flow-load-interactive" data-flow-load-handler="timestamp"> <span class="flow-timestamp-user-formatted">18:55, 13 jul 2023</span> <span id="" class="flow-timestamp-ago">fa 1 any</span> </span> </a> </span> </div> <div class="flow-menu flow-menu-hoverable"> <div class="flow-menu-js-drop"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-only mw-ui-icon-ellipsis" aria-label="Show post action menu"></span></a></div> <ul class="mw-ui-button-container flow-list"> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&topic_showPostId=xltuttsn8udmjysw#flow-post-xltuttsn8udmjysw"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-link"><span>Enllaç permanent</span></span></a></li></section> <section><li><a class="mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet" href="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=moderate-post&topic_postId=xltuttsn8udmjysw&topic_moderationState=hide" data-flow-interactive-handler="moderationDialog" data-flow-template="flow_moderate_post.partial" data-role="hide"><span class="mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-before mw-ui-icon-flag"><span>Amaga</span></span></a></li></section> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="flow-replies"> </div> </div> <script name="handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" type="text/x-handlebars-template-progressive-enhancement" data-type="replace" data-target="~ a" > <form class="flow-post flow-reply-form" method="POST" action="//ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tema:Xltsc9zgcuuc5f41&action=reply&topic_postId=xltsc9zgcuuc5f41#flow-post-xltsc9zgcuuc5f41-form-content" id="flow-reply-xltsc9zgcuuc5f41" > <input type="hidden" name="wpEditToken" value="+\" /> <input type="hidden" name="topic_replyTo" value="xltsc9zgcuuc5f41" /> <div class="flow-error-container"> </div> <div class="flow-anon-warning"> <div class="flow-anon-warning-mobile"> <div class="flow-form-collapsible flow-ui-tooltip mw-ui-progressive flow-ui-tooltip-down flow-ui-tooltip-block plainlinks">No heu iniciat cap sessió. 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