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href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc2KRyIMERuugzXCP79fjv5P7qnPh2vzINDpw1ARYyKL7zjnA/viewform?usp=pp_url&entry.773742086=https%3A%2F%2Fnote.com%2Fjun1026%2Fn%2Fn64e9bf694138&entry.1114420074=%E3%83%84%E3%82%A4%E3%83%83%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%81%AB%E3%81%AF%E3%81%84%E3%81%AA%E3%81%95%E3%81%9D%E3%81%86%E3%81%A0%E3%81%91%E3%81%A9%E5%AE%9F%E9%9A%9B%E3%81%AF%E5%AD%98%E5%9C%A8%E3%81%99%E3%82%8BIT%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%8B%E3%82%A2%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6%E8%AA%9E%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%81%BF%E3%82%8B%EF%BD%9CJunichi%20Nakahara&entry.867410236=%E3%83%86%E3%82%AF%E3%83%8E%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC" target="_blank" aria-label="カテゴリーの変更を依頼"><span>カテゴリーの変更を依頼</span></a> </span> <span class="entry-info-domain"><span class="text">記事元:</span><a href="/site/note.com/jun1026" data-gtm-label="entry-info-domain"><img src="https://cdn-ak2.favicon.st-hatena.com/64?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnote.com%2Fjun1026%2Fn%2Fn64e9bf694138" alt="" width="16px" 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js-entry-edit-modal-refresh is-hidden"> <span class="entry-editModal-renew-help">タイトル、本文などの情報を<br>再取得することができます</span> <button type="button" class="entry-editModal-renew-btn">情報を更新する</button> </div> <div class="entry-editModal-visibility js-entry-edit-modal-visibility is-hidden"> <span class="entry-editModal-visibility-help">コメントを非表示にできます</span> <a href="/my/site/https%3A%2F%2Fnote.com%2Fjun1026%2Fn%2Fn64e9bf694138/visibility">コメント表示の設定</a> </div> </div> <button type="button" class="entry-editModal-close js-entry-edit-modal-close-button"><img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/entry/overlay-close-gray.svg" alt=""></button> </div> </div> <div class="entry-twitterModal is-hidden js-twitter-share-modal"> <div class="entry-twitterModal-window js-modal-content"> <h3 class="entry-twitterModal-title">ブックマークしました</h3> <p class="entry-twitterModal-tweet js-twitter-share-modal-text"> ここにツイート内容が記載されます <span>https://b.hatena.ne.jp/URLはspanで囲んでください</span> </p> <a href="#" class="entry-twitterModal-btn js-twitter-share-modal-share-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-gtm-click-label="share-modal-twitter">Twitterで共有</a> <div class="entry-twitterModal-checkbox is-hidden js-twitter-share-modal-auto-redirect"> <input class="entry-twitterModal-checkbox-btn" type="checkbox" id="twitter-redirect-switch" data-gtm-click-label="share-checkbox-twitter"> <label class="entry-twitterModal-checkbox-label" for="twitter-redirect-switch">次回からTwitterへ自動リダイレクト</label> </div> <p class="entry-twitterModal-note is-hidden js-twitter-share-modal-auto-redirect-note">ONにすると、次回以降このダイアログを飛ばしてTwitterに遷移します</p> <button type="button" class="entry-twitterModal-close js-modal-close-button"><img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/entry/overlay-close-gray.svg" alt=""></button> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-myBookmark js-entry-myBookmark" data-entry-canonical-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138" data-default-comment="" data-bookmark-source=""> <div class="entry-user-and-comment"> <span class="entry-info-users"><a href="" data-gtm-label="entry-info-users"><span>372</span> users</a><span class="text">がブックマーク</span></span> <span class="entry-info-comment"><img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/entry/ic-comment.svg" alt="コメント"><span>91</span></span> </div> <div class="following-bookmarks-container js-following-bookmarks-container" data-entry-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <ul class="following-bookmarks js-following-bookmarks"></ul> <script type="text/x-template" id="template-following-bookmark"> <li> <a href="{{ anchor_path }}" class="following-bookmark-link" data-gtm-label="entry-info-followingBookmarks"> <img src="{{ profile_image_url }}" alt="{{ user_name }}" class="following-bookmark-icon"> </a> <span class="following-bookmark-popup"> <span class="following-bookmark-username">{{ user_name }}</span><span class="following-bookmark-timestamp">{{ created }}</span> <span class="following-bookmark-text"> {{ #comment }}<span class="following-bookmark-comment">{{ comment }}</span>{{ /comment }} <ul class="following-bookmark-tags">{{ #tags }}<li>{{ label }}</li>{{ /tags }}</ul> </span> </span> </li> </script> </div> <script type="text/x-template" id="entry-myBookmark-template"> <a href="/{{ user_name }}/" class="entry-myBookmark-icon"> <img src="{{ profile_image_url }}" alt="{{ user_name }}" title="{{ user_name }}"> </a> <span class="entry-myBookmark-username"><a href="{{ anchor_path }}">{{ user_name }}</a></span> <span class="js-private-icon status {{ #is_public }}is-hidden{{ /is_public }}"><img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/userpage/icon-private.svg" alt="非公開" width="10px" height="10px"></span> <span class="entry-myBookmark-text">{{{ comment_expanded }}}</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> {{ #tags }} <li><a href="/{{ user_name }}/{{ tag_escaped }}/">{{ tag }}</a></li> {{ /tags }} </ul> <div class="entry-myBookmark-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a href="{{ anchor_path }}">{{ timestamp }}</a></span> </p> <ul class="entry-myBookmark-menu js-bookmark-menu js-intent-share-bookmark" data-target-url="{{ url }}"> <li class="entry-myBookmark-item entry-myBookmark-share"> <div class="tooltip-hint is-invisible js-intent-share-tooltip"> <p class="tooltip-hint-text">こちらからブックマークを共有できます</p> <button class="tooltip-hint-close js-tooltip-close"><span>close</span></button> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-myBookmark-item-inner"> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-myBookmark-menu-btn js-intent-share-button" tabindex="0" role="button"> <span class="entry-myBookmark-popup">共有</span> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-myBookmark-menu-list js-intent-share-container"> <ul class="is-disabled" tabindex="-1"> <li> <a href="#" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-myBookmark-menu-item entry-myBookmark-menu-item--twitter js-intent-share-twitter-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-gtm-click-label="share-intent-twitter">Twitterへ共有</a> </li> <li> <a href="#" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-myBookmark-menu-item entry-myBookmark-menu-item--mastodon js-intent-share-mastodon-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-gtm-click-label="share-intent-mastodon">Mastodonへ共有</a> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </li> <li class="entry-myBookmark-item entry-myBookmark-edit"> <button type="button" class="entry-myBookmark-menu-btn js-inplace-edit"> <span class="entry-myBookmark-popup">ブックマークを編集</span> </button> </li> <li class="entry-myBookmark-item entry-myBookmark-delete"> <button type="button" class="entry-myBookmark-menu-btn js-inplace-delete" data-confirm-message="ブックマークを削除しますか？"> <span class="entry-myBookmark-popup">ブックマークを削除</span> </button> </li> </ul> </div> </script> <div class="entry-myBookmark-container js-entry-myBookmark-container"></div> <div class="entry-myBookmark-guest is-hidden js-entry-myBookmark-guest"> <a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/register?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fmy%2Fadd.confirm%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fjun1026%252Fn%252Fn64e9bf694138%26registered_from%3Dentry-info-register-user-icon&via=201038" class="entry-myBookmark-icon js-register-modal-link" data-gtm-label="entry-info-register-user-icon"> <img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/profile.gif" alt="ゲスト" title="ゲスト"> </a> <div class="entry-myBookmark-guest-main"> <a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/register?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fmy%2Fadd.confirm%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fjun1026%252Fn%252Fn64e9bf694138%26registered_from%3Dentry-info-register-form&via=201038" class="entry-myBookmark-guest-form js-register-modal-link" data-gtm-label="entry-info-register-form">コメントするにはログインが必要です</a> <a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/register?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fmy%2Fadd.confirm%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fjun1026%252Fn%252Fn64e9bf694138%26registered_from%3Dentry-info-register-button&via=201038" class="entry-myBookmark-guest-button js-register-modal-link" data-gtm-label="entry-info-register-button"><span>ブックマークを追加</span></a> </div> <div class="entry-myBookmark-guest-register"> <a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/register?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fmy%2Fadd.confirm%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fjun1026%252Fn%252Fn64e9bf694138%26registered_from%3Dentry-info-register-button-cta-bookmark&via=201038" class="entry-myBookmark-guest-button js-register-modal-link" data-gtm-click-label="entry-info-register-button-cta-bookmark" rel="noreferrer"><span>ブックマークを追加</span></a> </div> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-iconLeft js-user-bookmark-edit editing-form js-editing-form is-hidden entry-myBookmark-form"> <div class="bookmarkadd-iconLeft-icon js-profile-image-container"> <script type="text/x-template" id="template-user-profile-image"> <a href="/{{ user_name }}"> <img src="{{ profile_image_url }}" alt="{{ user_name }}" title="{{ user_name }}" class="bookmarkadd-iconLeft-icon-image"> </a> </script> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-iconLeft-main"> <form method="post" action="/my/bookmark" class="js-add-form "> <input type="hidden" name="url" value="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138" /> <input type="hidden" name="from" value="entry" /> <div class="bookmarkadd-comment js-annotation-component"> <textarea class="bookmarkadd-comment-form is-comment-form-shrink" name="annotation" placeholder="コメントを入力してください (省略可)" aria-label="コメントを入力 (省略可)" ></textarea> <div class="bookmarkadd-comment-footer"> <div class="bookmarkadd-community-guideline"> <p><a href="/guide/guideline" target="_blank">ガイドライン</a>をご確認の上、良識あるコメントにご協力ください</p> </div> <span class="bookmarkadd-comment-count"> <span class="js-bookmarkadd-comment-count">0</span> <span class="bookmarkadd-comment-slash">/</span> <span class="js-bookmarkadd-comment-limit">0</span> </span> </div> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-options"> <div class="bookmarkadd-tags js-bookmarkadd-tags"> <input type="text" class="bookmarkadd-tags-textbox js-bookmarkadd-tags-textbox" placeholder="タグを入力して追加" aria-label="タグを入力して追加(省略可)"> <span class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn is-hidden js-bookmarkadd-tags-btn"> <span class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn-popup">入力したタグを追加</span> <button class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn-image"></button> </span> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-share"> <div class="bookmarkadd-share-block js-bookmarkadd-share-block"> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label js-bookmarkadd-share-label-twitter"> <input type="checkbox" name="post_twitter" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput" value="1" /> <span class="bookmarkadd-twitter"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text twitter"> twitterにシェア </span> </span> </label> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label"> <input type="checkbox" name="bookmark_stock" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput js-bookmarkadd-readlater" value="1" /> <span class="bookmarkadd-readlater"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text readlater">あとで読む</span> </span> </label> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label"> <input type="checkbox" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput js-bookmarkadd-private" name="privacy" value="1"> <span class="bookmarkadd-private"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text private">非公開</span> </span> </label> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-cancel-and-submit-buttons js-buttons-container"> <button class="bookmarkadd-cancel-btn js-bookmarkadd-cancel-btn is-hidden" type="button"> キャンセル </button> <input class="bookmarkadd-submit-btn js-bookmarkadd-submit-btn" type="submit" value="ブックマーク"> </div> </div> </div> <p class="bookmarkadd-externalHelp is-hidden js-bookmarkadd-externalHelp-general-myBookmarkPrivate" > <span>現在プライベートモードです<span> <a href="/-/my/config/profile" class="bookmarkadd-externalHelp-link">設定を変更する</a> </p> </form> <div class="js-bookmarkadd-tagList is-hidden"> <h3 class="bookmarkadd-tagList-title js-bookmarkadd-recommended-tagList-title"><span>おすすめタグ<span><a href="/help/entry/tag" target="_blank">タグについて</a></h3> <ul class="bookmarkadd-tagList-contents js-bookmarkadd-recommended-tagList-contents"> </ul> <h3 class="bookmarkadd-tagList-title often js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-title"><span>よく使うタグ</span><button type="button" class="js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-button">すべて表示</button></h3> <ul class="bookmarkadd-tagList-contents js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-contents"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> <button type="button" class="entry-myBookmark-form-button js-entry-myBookmark-form-button is-hidden"><span>ブックマークを追加</span></button> <div class="bookmark-modal js-bookmark-modal js-editing-form is-hidden" aria-label="閉じる"> <div class="bookmark-modal-inner js-bookmark-modal-inner"> <div class="bookmark-modal-info"> <h2 class="bookmark-modal-title"> ツイッターにはいなさそうだけど実際は存在するITエンジニアについて語ってみる｜Junichi Nakahara </h2> <div class="entry-info-meta"> <span class="entry-users">372 users</span> <span class="entry-info-domain"> <img src="https://cdn-ak2.favicon.st-hatena.com/64?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnote.com%2Fjun1026%2Fn%2Fn64e9bf694138" alt="" width="16px" height="16px" class="bookmark-modal-favicon"><a href="/site/note.com/jun1026">note.com/jun1026</a> </span> </div> </div> <form method="post" action="/my/bookmark" class="js-add-form bookmark-modal-form"> <input type="hidden" name="url" value="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138" /> <input type="hidden" name="from" value="entry" /> <div class="bookmarkadd-comment js-annotation-component"> <textarea class="bookmarkadd-comment-form is-comment-form-shrink" name="annotation" placeholder="コメントを入力してください (省略可)" aria-label="コメントを入力 (省略可)" ></textarea> <div class="bookmarkadd-comment-footer"> <div class="bookmarkadd-community-guideline"> <p><a href="/guide/guideline" target="_blank">ガイドライン</a>をご確認の上、良識あるコメントにご協力ください</p> </div> <span class="bookmarkadd-comment-count"> <span class="js-bookmarkadd-comment-count">0</span> <span class="bookmarkadd-comment-slash">/</span> <span class="js-bookmarkadd-comment-limit">0</span> </span> </div> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-options"> <div class="bookmarkadd-tags js-bookmarkadd-tags"> <input type="text" class="bookmarkadd-tags-textbox js-bookmarkadd-tags-textbox" placeholder="タグを入力して追加" aria-label="タグを入力して追加(省略可)"> <span class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn is-hidden js-bookmarkadd-tags-btn"> <span class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn-popup">入力したタグを追加</span> <button class="bookmarkadd-tags-btn-image"></button> </span> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-share"> <div class="bookmarkadd-share-block js-bookmarkadd-share-block"> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label js-bookmarkadd-share-label-twitter"> <input type="checkbox" name="post_twitter" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput" value="1" /> <span class="bookmarkadd-twitter"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text twitter"> twitterにシェア </span> </span> </label> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label"> <input type="checkbox" name="bookmark_stock" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput js-bookmarkadd-readlater" value="1" /> <span class="bookmarkadd-readlater"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text readlater">あとで読む</span> </span> </label> <label class="bookmarkadd-share-label"> <input type="checkbox" class="bookmarkadd-shareInput js-bookmarkadd-private" name="privacy" value="1"> <span class="bookmarkadd-private"> <span class="bookmarkadd-share-text private">非公開</span> </span> </label> </div> <div class="bookmarkadd-cancel-and-submit-buttons js-buttons-container"> <input class="bookmarkadd-submit-btn js-bookmarkadd-submit-btn" type="submit" value="ブックマーク"> </div> </div> </div> <p class="bookmarkadd-externalHelp is-hidden js-bookmarkadd-externalHelp-general-myBookmarkPrivate" > <span>現在プライベートモードです<span> <a href="/-/my/config/profile" class="bookmarkadd-externalHelp-link">設定を変更する</a> </p> </form> <div class="js-bookmarkadd-tagList is-hidden"> <h3 class="bookmarkadd-tagList-title js-bookmarkadd-recommended-tagList-title"><span>おすすめタグ<span><a href="/help/entry/tag" target="_blank">タグについて</a></h3> <ul class="bookmarkadd-tagList-contents js-bookmarkadd-recommended-tagList-contents"> </ul> <h3 class="bookmarkadd-tagList-title often js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-title"><span>よく使うタグ</span><button type="button" class="js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-button">すべて表示</button></h3> <ul class="bookmarkadd-tagList-contents js-bookmarkadd-frequent-tagList-contents"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="bookmark-guest-register-modal js-bookmark-guest-register-modal is-hidden" aria-label="閉じる"> <div class="bookmark-guest-register-modal-inner js-modal-inner"> <button type="button" class="bookmark-guest-register-modal-close js-modal-close-button"> <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="5748.793 -620.207 21.414 21.414"> <defs><style>.cls-1 { fill: none; stroke-width: 2px; }</style></defs> <g> <title>閉じる</title> <desc>モーダルを閉じます</desc> <path id="line1" d="M5769.5-619.5l-20 20"/><path id="line2" d="M5769.5-599.5l-20-20"/> </g> </svg> </button> <img src="/images/v4/public/bookmark-logo.png" class="entry-modal-guest-register-logo" alt="はてなブックマーク"> <h2 class="entry-modal-guest-register-title">はてなブックマークで<br>関心をシェアしよう</h2> <p class="entry-modal-guest-register-description">みんなの興味と感想が集まることで<br>新しい発見や、深堀りがもっと楽しく</p> <a href="#" data-gtm-click-label="entry-modal-guest-register-button" class="entry-modal-guest-register-button js-register-link" rel="noreferrer">ユーザー登録</a> <p class="entry-modal-guest-login">アカウントをお持ちの方は<a href="https://www.hatena.ne.jp/login?location=https%3A%2F%2Fb.hatena.ne.jp%2Fentry%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnote.com%252Fjun1026%252Fn%252Fn64e9bf694138" data-gtm-click-label="entry-modal-guest-login" rel="noreferrer">ログインページ</a>へ</p> </div> </div> <div class="entry-ad-pc-text"> <div id="entry-text-ad"></div> </div> <div class="entry-ad-sp-banner"> <div id="entry-ad-sp-upon-comments"></div> </div> <div class="entry-comments"> <h3 class="entry-comment-title">記事へのコメント<span>91</span>件</h3> <div class="js-bookmarks-sort-tabs-group entry-comment" data-popular-count="10"> <div class="entry-comment-tabs js-bookmarks-sort-tabs"> <ul class="entry-comment-tab"> <li role="button" class="js-bookmarks-sort-tab is-active" data-sort="popular">注目コメント</li> <li role="button" class="js-bookmarks-sort-tab" data-sort="recent">新着コメント</li> </ul> </div> <div class="bookmarks-sort-panels js-bookmarks-sort-panels"> <script type="text/x-template" id="autoloader-bookmark-item"> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="{{user_name}}" data-url="{{bookmarked_url}}"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="{{user_page_path}}" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-{{ sort }}-icon"><img src="{{profile_image_url}}"/ alt="{{user_name}}" title="{{user_name}}"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="{{user_page_path}}" data-gtm-label="entry-{{ sort }}-username">{{user_name}}</a></span> <span class="status {{ #is_public }}is-hidden{{ /is_public }}"><img src="https://b.st-hatena.com/77d2ee6f79ddaf78eb2d198936bae315b6721993/images/v4/public/userpage/icon-private.svg" alt="非公開" width="10px" height="10px"></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">{{{comment_expanded}}}</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> {{{tags}}} </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-{{ sort }}-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp{{anchor_path}}">{{created}}</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-{{ sort }}-permalink" href="{{comment_page_path}}" rel="{{#should_nofollow}}nofollow{{/should_nofollow}}">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="{{location_id}}" data-user-name="{{user_name}}" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button{{#enable_button}} is-enabled{{/enable_button}}" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </script> <script type="text/x-template" id="template-short-url-click"> {{#tweet_url}} <a href="{{tweet_url}}" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-gtm-click-label="reaction-twitter-clicks"><span>{{count}} clicks</span></a> {{/tweet_url}} {{^tweet_url}} <span>{{count}} clicks</span> {{/tweet_url}} </script> <div class="is-active bookmarks-sort-panel js-bookmarks-sort-panel" data-sort="popular"> <div class="js-bookmarks js-bookmarks-popular"> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="hardt" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/hardt/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/hardt/profile.png"/ alt="hardt" title="hardt"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/hardt/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">hardt</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">最底辺出身なのでイキらせてもらうが、ガチ底辺は「PC持ってない」とかそういうレベル</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/hardt/20241119#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/hardt" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="hardt" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="woodnotexx" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/woodnotexx/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/woodnotexx/profile.png"/ alt="woodnotexx" title="woodnotexx"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/woodnotexx/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">woodnotexx</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">そう書きながらご自身はnoteやXを遡っても1行のコードも出てこないしgithubやブログやzennのリンクも出てこないのですが</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/woodnotexx/20241119#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/woodnotexx" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="woodnotexx" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="gabill" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/gabill/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/gabill/profile.png"/ alt="gabill" title="gabill"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/gabill/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">gabill</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">社会はGithubの存在を知らない人が書いたコードで回ってる。トレンドへの感度と職務遂行能力と技術への向上心はそれそれ別の概念。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/gabill/20241119#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/gabill" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="gabill" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="hello_world000" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/hello_world000/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/hello_world000/profile.png"/ alt="hello_world000" title="hello_world000"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/hello_world000/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">hello_world000</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">業界3年目くらいのエンジニアが書いてる雰囲気がある。年次を重ねるほど、最上位エンジニアを除き、技術に触れられずに人と触れさせられるんだよな...あと技術力がある人より、ちゃんと会話できる人の方がありがたい</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/hello_world000/20241119#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/hello_world000" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="hello_world000" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="yogasa" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/yogasa/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/yogasa/profile.png"/ alt="yogasa" title="yogasa"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/yogasa/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">yogasa</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">競プロ知ってたらエラいみたいな謎の価値観で生きてるのなんで？</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> <li class=""><a href="/yogasa/%E3%83%8D%E3%82%BF/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-tags">ネタ</a></li> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/yogasa/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/yogasa" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="yogasa" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="findup" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/findup/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/findup/profile.png"/ alt="findup" title="findup"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/findup/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">findup</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">意識高い高いな人だなあ。そんな偉そうにマウント取れるものなんだ。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/findup/20241119#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/findup" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="findup" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="akakikureha" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/akakikureha/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/akakikureha/profile.png"/ alt="akakikureha" title="akakikureha"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/akakikureha/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">akakikureha</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">エンジニア界の謎の意識の高さはなんだろうな。技術だけあっても金にしてくれる人（発注者、元請、自社サービスのPdM、営業）がいないと儲けは出ないんだぞ</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/akakikureha/20241119#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/akakikureha" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="akakikureha" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="prjpn" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/prjpn/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/prjpn/profile.png"/ alt="prjpn" title="prjpn"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/prjpn/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">prjpn</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">IT業界はプライベートでの成果が求められる特殊性があるけど、本来それらは異常なこと。化学の合成屋は家で実験とかしないし、大工も自分の家で常に日曜大工してるかと言えばそうではない。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/prjpn/20241119#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/prjpn" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="prjpn" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="legnum" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/legnum/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/legnum/profile.png"/ alt="legnum" title="legnum"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/legnum/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">legnum</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">みんな怒ってるから読んでみたけど目糞鼻糞を笑うレベルの話で「今のはてなってこのレベルが上から目線なの！？」ってビビった。本人もその自覚あって書いてそうだけど。サスペンダーおじさん遠くなったな</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/legnum/20241119#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/19</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/legnum" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="legnum" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="diffie" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/diffie/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/diffie/profile.png"/ alt="diffie" title="diffie"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/diffie/" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-username">diffie</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">技術力低だけど文句言わずテスト項目を数千個作成&消化できる人や、コードは読めないけどフローチャートとSQL見れば業務ロジックの穴を見抜ける人に接すると、世の中っていろんな人が活躍してるんだなって気づくよ。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-popular-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/diffie/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-popular-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/diffie" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="diffie" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class=" bookmarks-sort-panel js-bookmarks-sort-panel js-bookmark-autoloader-recent" data-sort="recent" data-autoload-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138" 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href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/repon/20241121#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/21</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/repon" rel="nofollow">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="repon" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="abstruct3431" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/abstruct3431/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/abstruct3431/profile.png"/ alt="abstruct3431" title="abstruct3431"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/abstruct3431/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">abstruct3431</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">なんか偉そうにたれてるわりには主語が抜けててわかりにくい稚拙な文章が多いな。人様に読ませるために書いたんじゃないの？1/3まで読んで閉じたわ。人を見下すのは結構だが、ブーメラン投げるなよな</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/abstruct3431/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/abstruct3431" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="abstruct3431" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="for-my-internet-demo" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/for-my-internet-demo/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/for-my-internet-demo/profile.png"/ alt="for-my-internet-demo" title="for-my-internet-demo"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/for-my-internet-demo/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">for-my-internet-demo</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">大半は皆そこそこワンイシューだなみたいなのが見えてからそこまでピンとはこないかも</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/for-my-internet-demo/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/for-my-internet-demo" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="for-my-internet-demo" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="yuuu1993g" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/yuuu1993g/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/yuuu1993g/profile.png"/ alt="yuuu1993g" title="yuuu1993g"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/yuuu1993g/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">yuuu1993g</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">底辺時代の話すると、新卒エンジニア研修のメンターになった先輩がバグに遭遇した際に該当するコードを紙に印刷して眺めてデバッグしていたな。その方がバグを見つけられると。これマジで本当の話ね。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/yuuu1993g/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/yuuu1993g" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="yuuu1993g" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="roirrawedoc" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/roirrawedoc/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/roirrawedoc/profile.png"/ alt="roirrawedoc" title="roirrawedoc"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/roirrawedoc/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">roirrawedoc</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">いまだにいつスクールの宣伝が滑り込んでくるのかなあって思いながら読んでしまう。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/roirrawedoc/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/roirrawedoc" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="roirrawedoc" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="fog-og-frog2" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/fog-og-frog2/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/fog-og-frog2/profile.png"/ alt="fog-og-frog2" title="fog-og-frog2"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/fog-og-frog2/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">fog-og-frog2</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">Twitterでめっちゃ観測されてる人がたまたま既存顧客の営業繋がりで講師として来てもらったあとでTwitterやってなさそうな人たちに感想聞いたら、ボロカスに言われてたことをふと思い出した。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/fog-og-frog2/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/fog-og-frog2" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="fog-og-frog2" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="nobodyplace" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138?sub_rt=share_pw"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/nobodyplace/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/nobodyplace/profile.png"/ alt="nobodyplace" title="nobodyplace"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/nobodyplace/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">nobodyplace</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">“意識の低い3~5年目より、やる気のある未経験が勝つケースが多い”</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/nobodyplace/20241120#bookmark-4762266331747096576">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762266331747096576/comment/nobodyplace" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762266331747096576" data-user-name="nobodyplace" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="cinq_na" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/cinq_na/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/cinq_na/profile.png"/ alt="cinq_na" title="cinq_na"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/cinq_na/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">cinq_na</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">二次SIer弊社、2ヵ月の新人研修で教師役勤まるのが1/4、FizzBuzz書けないのが1/4、教えたらできるようになったのは1/2。派遣ベースだともっと酷い世界があるんだろうね…</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/cinq_na/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/cinq_na" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="cinq_na" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="kyopeco" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/kyopeco/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/kyopeco/profile.png"/ alt="kyopeco" title="kyopeco"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/kyopeco/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">kyopeco</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">イキリポイント含めて個人的には面白い話。そもそもバックレるか否かと言う基準があるし、カオスよね。SESは眺めている分には興味深い界隈。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/kyopeco/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/kyopeco" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="kyopeco" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="xlc" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/xlc/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/xlc/profile.png"/ alt="xlc" title="xlc"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/xlc/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">xlc</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">多重請負というのはこういう無能層にも職を与える構造として機能している。それをまとめ上げるSIerが無能な訳ないのよ。でも本来は有能な人がコードを書くべきとは思う。それができないのもまた多重請負ならでは。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/xlc/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/xlc" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="xlc" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="haatenax" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/haatenax/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/haatenax/profile.png"/ alt="haatenax" title="haatenax"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/haatenax/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">haatenax</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">そこまで上から目線な印象は持たなかったが追加に書き直したとあるので昨日まではもっと強い文体だったのか</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/haatenax/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/haatenax" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="haatenax" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="kappa9" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/kappa9/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/kappa9/profile.png"/ alt="kappa9" title="kappa9"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/kappa9/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">kappa9</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">プログラマーとかITエンジニアといっても、単に既存の開発言語やライブラリを与えられて使ってるだけなら与えられたエクセルやワードを使ってるのと本質的にレベルは同じ。自分もその中にいる。みんな底辺ですよ。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/kappa9/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/kappa9" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="kappa9" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="diffie" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/diffie/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/diffie/profile.png"/ alt="diffie" title="diffie"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/diffie/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">diffie</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">技術力低だけど文句言わずテスト項目を数千個作成&消化できる人や、コードは読めないけどフローチャートとSQL見れば業務ロジックの穴を見抜ける人に接すると、世の中っていろんな人が活躍してるんだなって気づくよ。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/diffie/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/diffie" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="diffie" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="itotto" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/itotto/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/itotto/profile.png"/ alt="itotto" title="itotto"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/itotto/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">itotto</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">遠くから見てる分には微笑ましい</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> <li class=""><a href="/itotto/%E7%94%9F%E6%B4%BB/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">生活</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/itotto/%E9%9B%91%E8%A8%98/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">雑記</a></li> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/itotto/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/itotto" rel="nofollow">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="itotto" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="kkkirikkk" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/kkkirikkk/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/kkkirikkk/profile.png"/ alt="kkkirikkk" title="kkkirikkk"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/kkkirikkk/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">kkkirikkk</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">昔の同僚にもいるんだけど、底辺SESから転職して意識高い高い系に行った奴ってこうなりがちなんだよな。ダイエット成功者が上から目線でデブに厳しいのと同じやつ</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/kkkirikkk/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/kkkirikkk" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="kkkirikkk" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="arearekorekore" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/arearekorekore/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/arearekorekore/profile.png"/ alt="arearekorekore" title="arearekorekore"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/arearekorekore/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">arearekorekore</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">イキりすぎ</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/arearekorekore/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/arearekorekore" rel="nofollow">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="arearekorekore" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="hatest" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/hatest/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/hatest/profile.png"/ alt="hatest" title="hatest"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/hatest/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">hatest</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">やる気あっても、発注元からくる無理な要件、1次受けからくるクソダサ仕様と無茶な開発期間があるので、無駄に意識高くて仕事と関係ない技術の話とかしてくる奴と会話するのうざい。話しかけるな</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/hatest/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/hatest" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="hatest" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="yuma_0211" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/yuma_0211/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/yuma_0211/profile.png"/ alt="yuma_0211" title="yuma_0211"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/yuma_0211/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">yuma_0211</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">新人時代から古いコードをメンテすることだけを求められ、成長の機会とやる気を失う人も多いのよ。。。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/yuma_0211/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/yuma_0211" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="yuma_0211" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="izoc" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/izoc/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/izoc/profile.png"/ alt="izoc" title="izoc"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/izoc/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">izoc</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">SIerなんてそんなもんだろうけどITスキル起因の炎上なんて聞いたこと無い。トラブルの火種はいつも認識齟齬から</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> <li class=""><a href="/izoc/IT/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">IT</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/izoc/%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B9%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">システム</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/izoc/%E9%96%8B%E7%99%BA/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">開発</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/izoc/%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%8B%E3%82%A2/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">エンジニア</a></li> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/izoc/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/izoc" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="izoc" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="dekasasaki" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/dekasasaki/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/dekasasaki/profile.png"/ alt="dekasasaki" title="dekasasaki"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/dekasasaki/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">dekasasaki</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">SNSで技術的なインプットやアウトプットを特にしないけど有能な人たちもいる。でもここで述べられてるようなのよりもっと酷くて「仕事ナメてんのか？」って人たちも沢山いる。業界関係ない気がするけどなあ。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/dekasasaki/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/dekasasaki" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="dekasasaki" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="keidge" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/keidge/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/keidge/profile.png"/ alt="keidge" title="keidge"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/keidge/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">keidge</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">はてブユーザの大好きな（WebTech寄りプログラマ目線の）ITエンジニア論。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/keidge/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/keidge" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="keidge" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="pwatermark" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/pwatermark/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/pwatermark/profile.png"/ alt="pwatermark" title="pwatermark"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/pwatermark/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">pwatermark</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">いや、そりゃそういうのもいるでしょそういうのもお前みたいなのも含めてうまく働いてもらうのがマネージャの仕事なわけで</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/pwatermark/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/pwatermark" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="pwatermark" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="tyosuke2011" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/tyosuke2011/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/tyosuke2011/profile.png"/ alt="tyosuke2011" title="tyosuke2011"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/tyosuke2011/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">tyosuke2011</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">底辺IT土方が増えるのはしょうがないとおもよ</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> <li class=""><a href="/tyosuke2011/%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%8B%E3%82%A2/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">エンジニア</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/tyosuke2011/it/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">it</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/tyosuke2011/%E8%BB%A2%E8%81%B7/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">転職</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/tyosuke2011/%E4%BC%81%E6%A5%AD/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">企業</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/tyosuke2011/%E9%96%8B%E7%99%BA/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">開発</a></li> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/tyosuke2011/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/tyosuke2011" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="tyosuke2011" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="zakinco" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/zakinco/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/zakinco/profile.png"/ alt="zakinco" title="zakinco"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/zakinco/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">zakinco</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">日本のSESやSIerは、はよ滅びろとしか思ってない。もう関わりたくない。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/zakinco/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/zakinco" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="zakinco" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="nemoba" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/nemoba/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/nemoba/profile.png"/ alt="nemoba" title="nemoba"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/nemoba/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">nemoba</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">自分も未経験でこの世界きたときの感想は、え？プログラマってこんなレベル低いのしかいないの？だったから気持ちは分かる。が、逆に相当出来る人もだいぶ身近にいるのがこの業界の良さだよ。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/nemoba/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/nemoba" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="nemoba" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="shag" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/shag/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/shag/profile.png"/ alt="shag" title="shag"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/shag/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">shag</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">大抵の企業の問題解決においてCS的な知識はRDBMSを適切に使いこなせれば不要で、競プロは別に知らんでもなんとかなる。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/shag/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/shag" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="shag" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="syu-m-5151" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/syu-m-5151/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/syu-m-5151/profile.png"/ alt="syu-m-5151" title="syu-m-5151"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/syu-m-5151/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">syu-m-5151</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">界隈としての自意識がとても凄い。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> <li class=""><a href="/syu-m-5151/%23nwiizo%E3%81%8C%E3%81%84%E3%81%84%E3%81%9E%E3%81%A8%E6%80%9D%E3%81%A3%E3%81%9F/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-tags">#nwiizoがいいぞと思った</a></li> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/syu-m-5151/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/syu-m-5151" rel="nofollow">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="syu-m-5151" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="irasally" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/irasally/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/irasally/profile.png"/ alt="irasally" title="irasally"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/irasally/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">irasally</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">出来るかどうかってコードを書く力だけじゃなく「AだったらCをする。Bだった時もCをする」という仕様を渡された時に「AだけどBじゃない場合はどうする？」というところに思考がいくかどうかみたいなところあると思う</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/irasally/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/irasally" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="irasally" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation js-bookmark-report-violation-button">通報する</button></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="entry-comment-contents js-ignorable-user-content js-bookmark-item js-user-bookmark-comment" data-user-name="Silfith" data-url="https://note.com/jun1026/n/n64e9bf694138"> <div class="entry-comment-contents-main"> <a href="/Silfith/" class="entry-user-icon" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-icon"><img src="https://cdn.profile-image.st-hatena.com/users/Silfith/profile.png"/ alt="Silfith" title="Silfith"></a> <div class="entry-comments-contents-body"> <span class="entry-comment-username"><a href="/Silfith/" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-username">Silfith</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-text js-bookmark-comment">エンジニアって言葉に括りたいようだけど、技術ありきではなくて評価当事者に知識・発想が欠如したビジネスパズルをしているSIの方々をエンジニアという括りにする必要はないと思ってる。もはや業種が違う。</span> <ul class="entry-comment-tags"> </ul> <div class="entry-comment-contents-foot"> <p class="entry-comment-meta"> <span class="entry-comment-timestamp"><a class="js-bookmark-anchor-path" data-gtm-label="entry-recent-timestamp" href="https://b.hatena.ne.jp/Silfith/20241120#bookmark-4762216797862834592">2024/11/20</a></span> <span class="entry-comment-permalink"> <a data-gtm-label="entry-recent-permalink" href="/entry/4762216797862834592/comment/Silfith" rel="">リンク</a> </span> <span class="list-star-container js-list-star-container"></span> <span class="twitter-click js-short-url-clicks"></span> </p> <div class="entry-comment-menus"> <div class="js-add-star-container add-star-container"></div> <div data-location-id="4762216797862834592" data-user-name="Silfith" class="is-hidden js-bookmark-downvote-container entry-comment-menu-minusvote"> <input type="checkbox" class="js-bookmark-downvote-checkbox entry-comment-menu-minusvote-checkbox" title="マイナス評価"> </div> <div class="ui-contextMenu entry-comment-menu-more js-bookmark-menu-button" onclick> <div class="ui-contextMenu-btn entry-comment-menu-more-btn" tabindex="0" role="button"><span>その他</span></div> <div class="ui-contextMenu-list entry-comment-menu-more-list"> <ul tabindex="-1"> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-followuser js-entry-comment-followuser">お気に入りに追加</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unfollowuser js-entry-comment-unfollowuser is-hidden">お気に入りを解除</button> </li> <li> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-ignoreuser js-entry-comment-ignoreuser">ユーザーを非表示</button> <button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-unignoreuser js-entry-comment-unignoreuser is-hidden" data-unignore-msg-hover="ユーザーを表示" data-unignore-msg="非表示に設定済み"><span class="is-hidden">ユーザーを表示</span></button> </li> <li><button type="button" class="ui-contextMenu-listItem entry-comment-reportViolation 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