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class="ext-discussiontools-replytool-enabled ext-discussiontools-newtopictool-enabled ext-discussiontools-sourcemodetoolbar-enabled skin-vector-legacy mediawiki ltr sitedir-ltr mw-hide-empty-elt ns-4 ns-subject mw-editable page-Wikidata_Property_proposal_Model_item rootpage-Wikidata_Property_proposal skin-vector action-view"><div id="mw-page-base" class="noprint"></div> <div id="mw-head-base" class="noprint"></div> <div id="content" class="mw-body" role="main"> <a id="top"></a> <div id="siteNotice"><!-- CentralNotice --></div> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading"><span class="mw-page-title-namespace">Wikidata</span><span class="mw-page-title-separator">:</span><span class="mw-page-title-main">Property proposal/Model item</span></h1> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body"> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">From Wikidata</div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"><div class="subpages">< <bdi dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal" title="Wikidata:Property proposal">Wikidata:Property proposal</a></bdi></div></div></div> <div id="contentSub2"></div> <div id="jump-to-nav"></div> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#mw-head">Jump to navigation</a> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#searchInput">Jump to search</a> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="model_item" data-mw-thread-id="h-model_item-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-model_item-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z"></span><span id="model_item"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">model item</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-model_item-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: model item"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div><p> Originally proposed at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic">Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic</a></p><div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2262253935">.mw-parser-output .property-navibox{background:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd);border:3px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1)}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-header{background:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd);outline:3px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1);padding:4px}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links{float:right;margin:0}body.rtl .mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links{float:left}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li{display:inline;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li:after{display:inline;content:" – "}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li:last-child:after{content:none}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main{overflow-x:auto}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox table{display:table;overflow-x:visible}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main tr{vertical-align:text-top}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox[dir="ltr"] .property-navibox-main th{padding-right:1em;text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox[dir="rtl"] .property-navibox-main th{padding-left:1em;text-align:right}@media(max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-header{display:flex;flex-direction:column-reverse}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>td,.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>th{display:block}}</style><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P5869"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P5869" title="Property:P5869">model item</a> <small>(P5869)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P5869" title="Property talk:P5869">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Defines which item is a best practice example of modelling a subject, which is described by the value of this property</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Items</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q5" title="Q5">human <small>(Q5)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q42" title="Q42">Douglas Adams <small>(Q42)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q82955" title="Q82955">politician <small>(Q82955)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q8023" title="Q8023">Nelson Mandela <small>(Q8023)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q202866" title="Q202866">animated film <small>(Q202866)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q15270647" title="Q15270647">Zootopia <small>(Q15270647)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Planned use</th><td>Record model items for all of the most used classes on Wikidata, then gradually expand over time to include more granular concepts</td></tr><tr><th>Expected completeness</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q21873886" title="Q21873886">always incomplete <small>(Q21873886)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>See also</th><td><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item_for" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Model item for">Wikidata:Property proposal/Model item for</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Motivation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Motivation-model_item-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Motivation-model_item-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z"></span>Motivation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Motivation-model_item-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Motivation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Cummings-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z-Motivation"></span>Defines which item is a best practice example of modelling a subject, which is described by the value of this property. Providing best practice examples linked from the subject will make it much easier for people to understand how to model types of items, especially new people. It will also allow a central place to decide how to model certain kinds of items. </p><p>By modelling this within the structure of Wikidata rather than in Wikiprojects the structure is multilingual. Also looking at where the model item refers to the concept we can run a standard query that will work for most cases to find all the items that the model applies to, this is not limited to ‘instance of’. This could be used to check which items do and do not have high importance statements, e.g authors without a date of birth. </p><p>This could later be complemented with another property which defines the schema for a class of item (e.g author or politician) </p><p>This property requires that the inverse property <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item_for" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Model item for">model item for</a> also be accepted to be most useful. </p><p>Thanks </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:John_Cummings" title="User:John Cummings">John Cummings</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Cummings" title="User talk:John Cummings"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-John_Cummings-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z-Motivation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 11 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Cummings-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z-Motivation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z","author":"John Cummings","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John_Cummings-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z-Motivation","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Cummings-2018-09-11T20:19:00.000Z-Motivation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion-model_item-2018-09-11T21:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion-model_item-2018-09-11T21:07:00.000Z"></span>Discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion-model_item-2018-09-11T21:07:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NavinoEvans-2018-09-11T21:07:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - <a href="/wiki/User:NavinoEvans" title="User:NavinoEvans">NavinoEvans</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NavinoEvans" title="User talk:NavinoEvans"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-NavinoEvans-2018-09-11T21:07:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 11 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NavinoEvans-2018-09-11T21:07:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-11T21:07:00.000Z","author":"NavinoEvans","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-NavinoEvans-2018-09-11T21:07:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NavinoEvans-2018-09-11T21:07:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2018-09-12T08:20:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> not sure about this one - maybe "badges" are better? Or is this for just "one" iconic model item (we will never agree on which one I think) <small> – <bdi lang="en"><i>The preceding <a href="/wiki/Q4663253" title="Q4663253">unsigned</a> comment was added by</i> <bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a></bdi> (<bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jane023" title="User talk:Jane023">talk</a></bdi> • <bdi lang=""><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jane023" title="Special:Contributions/Jane023">contribs</a></bdi>).</bdi></small></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%84_%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A8%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84_2" title="User:ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2">David</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%84_%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A8%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84_2" title="User talk:ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2018-09-12T08:20:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:20, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2018-09-12T08:20:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-12T08:20:00.000Z","author":"\u062f\u064a\u0641\u064a\u062f \u0639\u0627\u062f\u0644 \u0648\u0647\u0628\u0629 \u062e\u0644\u064a\u0644 2","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u062f\u064a\u0641\u064a\u062f_\u0639\u0627\u062f\u0644_\u0648\u0647\u0628\u0629_\u062e\u0644\u064a\u0644_2-2018-09-12T08:20:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[],"displayName":"David"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2018-09-12T08:20:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2018-09-12T08:35:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> picking one model could be difficult, maybe we could have multiple values but please keep them limited to a small set (too many models could be as confusing as no model at all). <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-VIGNERON-2018-09-12T08:35:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:35, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2018-09-12T08:35:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-12T08:35:00.000Z","author":"VIGNERON","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-VIGNERON-2018-09-12T08:35:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2018-09-12T08:35:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I think there should be models for various depths in a particular field. Looking at the full one might just be overwhelming. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:38, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z","author":"Jura1","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":["c-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jura1" title="User:Jura1"><bdi>Jura1</bdi></a>: Agreed, there could be a model item for 'author' and model items for '20th century French Author', 'Academic author', 'ghost writer' etc. These items are best practice examples which reflect an agreed schema, they would most probably not be the record of the schema (I'm working on that part next). --<a href="/wiki/User:John_Cummings" title="User:John Cummings">John Cummings</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Cummings" title="User talk:John Cummings"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z","author":"John Cummings","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jura1-2018-09-12T20:42:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2018-09-12T11:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2018-09-12T20:42:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z"></span>With depth I mean less than 100 statements. 10/20/50 etc. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Jura1-2018-09-12T20:42:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2018-09-12T20:42:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-12T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Jura1","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jura1-2018-09-12T20:42:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2018-09-12T20:42:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-12T12:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richard_Nevell-2018-09-12T12:43:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Strikes me as a useful pairing wihh the inverse property. <a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Nevell" title="User:Richard Nevell">Richard Nevell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richard_Nevell" title="User talk:Richard Nevell"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Richard_Nevell-2018-09-12T12:43:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richard_Nevell-2018-09-12T12:43:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-12T12:43:00.000Z","author":"Richard Nevell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Richard_Nevell-2018-09-12T12:43:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richard_Nevell-2018-09-12T12:43:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jsamwrites-2018-09-12T17:35:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Jsamwrites" title="User:Jsamwrites">John Samuel</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Jsamwrites-2018-09-12T17:35:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Sabas88" title="User:Sabas88">Sabas88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sabas88" title="User talk:Sabas88"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Sabas88-2018-09-12T18:24:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sabas88-2018-09-12T18:24:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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title="User:PKM">PKM</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PKM" title="User talk:PKM"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-PKM-2018-09-12T19:32:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PKM-2018-09-12T19:32:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-12T19:32:00.000Z","author":"PKM","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PKM-2018-09-12T19:32:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PKM-2018-09-12T19:32:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zyksnowy-2018-09-12T20:39:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Zyksnowy" title="User:Zyksnowy">Zyksnowy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zyksnowy" title="User talk:Zyksnowy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Zyksnowy-2018-09-12T20:39:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Useful! <a href="/wiki/User:Ijon" title="User:Ijon">Ijon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ijon" title="User talk:Ijon"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Ijon-2018-09-13T08:52:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 13 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ijon-2018-09-13T08:52:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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inverse property. We point people, particularly newbs, towards featured articles on Wikipedia for examples of best practice - would be extremely beneficial to have an accepted good exemplar of a featured/model item for modelling certain data models on Wikidata. e.g. RMS Titanic for ships? <a href="/wiki/User:Stinglehammer" title="User:Stinglehammer">Stinglehammer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stinglehammer" title="User talk:Stinglehammer"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Stinglehammer-2018-09-13T10:27:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 13 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stinglehammer-2018-09-13T10:27:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-13T10:27:00.000Z","author":"Stinglehammer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stinglehammer-2018-09-13T10:27:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stinglehammer-2018-09-13T10:27:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lirazelf-2018-09-13T11:07:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Yeah, can see this one being useful, esp for beginners. <a href="/wiki/User:Lirazelf" title="User:Lirazelf">Lirazelf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lirazelf" title="User talk:Lirazelf"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Lirazelf-2018-09-13T11:07:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lirazelf-2018-09-13T11:07:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-13T11:07:00.000Z","author":"Lirazelf","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lirazelf-2018-09-13T11:07:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lirazelf-2018-09-13T11:07:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Llywelyn2000-2018-09-13T11:14:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - <a href="/wiki/User:Llywelyn2000" title="User:Llywelyn2000">Llywelyn2000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Llywelyn2000" title="User talk:Llywelyn2000"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Llywelyn2000-2018-09-13T11:14:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 13 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Llywelyn2000-2018-09-13T11:14:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-13T11:14:00.000Z","author":"Llywelyn2000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Llywelyn2000-2018-09-13T11:14:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Llywelyn2000-2018-09-13T11:14:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jason.nlw-2018-09-13T13:22:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - very useful <a href="/wiki/User:Jason.nlw" title="User:Jason.nlw">Jason.nlw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jason.nlw" title="User talk:Jason.nlw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Jason.nlw-2018-09-13T13:22:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 13 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jason.nlw-2018-09-13T13:22:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-13T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Jason.nlw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jason.nlw-2018-09-13T13:22:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jason.nlw-2018-09-13T13:22:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Will there be a single value constraint, who decides which value to choose, why Douglas Adam and not Barack Obama? <a href="/wiki/User:Nepalicoi" title="User:Nepalicoi">Nepalicoi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nepalicoi" title="User talk:Nepalicoi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 17 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z","author":"Nepalicoi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":["c-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nepalicoi" title="User:Nepalicoi"><bdi>Nepalicoi</bdi></a>:, thanks very much for the questions. I think value constraints should be dependent on wether we can find a good way to model schemas within Wikidata items, or wether model items become in effect schemas for subjects (I'm currently trying to work out a good way to model schemas). I think the decision on which are model items should be a community decision, the most sensible way of doing this is probably a discussion on the talk page for the class item (e.g the item for author). The examples are just for illustration, they are not the decided. --<a href="/wiki/User:John_Cummings" title="User:John Cummings">John Cummings</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Cummings" title="User talk:John Cummings"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z","author":"John Cummings","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nepalicoi-2018-09-26T13:56:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z-Nepalicoi-2018-09-17T12:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nepalicoi-2018-09-26T13:56:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z"></span>I feel like it's becoming a list of items for which Sparql should be used, see <a href="/wiki/Q846570" title="Q846570">Americans <small>(Q846570)</small></a> or <a href="/wiki/Q634" title="Q634">planet <small>(Q634)</small></a> which has 10 or so values. There needs to be some constraint to prevent it from becoming a huge list of items. <a href="/wiki/User:Nepalicoi" title="User:Nepalicoi">Nepalicoi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nepalicoi" title="User talk:Nepalicoi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Nepalicoi-2018-09-26T13:56:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 26 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nepalicoi-2018-09-26T13:56:00.000Z-John_Cummings-2018-09-17T14:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/wiki/User:NavinoEvans" title="User:NavinoEvans"><bdi>NavinoEvans</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Lirazelf" title="User:Lirazelf"><bdi>Lirazelf</bdi></a>: @<a href="/wiki/User:Llywelyn2000" title="User:Llywelyn2000"><bdi>Llywelyn2000</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Zyksnowy" title="User:Zyksnowy"><bdi>Zyksnowy</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:PKM" title="User:PKM"><bdi>PKM</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Jason.nlw" title="User:Jason.nlw"><bdi>Jason.nlw</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Stinglehammer" title="User:Stinglehammer"><bdi>Stinglehammer</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Sabas88" title="User:Sabas88"><bdi>Sabas88</bdi></a>: @<a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON"><bdi>VIGNERON</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:John_Cummings" title="User:John Cummings"><bdi>John Cummings</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Jura1" title="User:Jura1"><bdi>Jura1</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b>: <a href="/wiki/Property:P5869" title="Property:P5869">model item <small dir="ltr">(P5869)</small></a>. − <a href="/wiki/User:Pintoch" title="User:Pintoch">Pintoch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pintoch" title="User talk:Pintoch"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Model_item#c-Pintoch-2018-09-20T21:33:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:33, 20 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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