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kohteliaisuuksia</h1><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-hSyjfr fmZXof bRXxCP yle__article__paragraph">Varapresidenttiehdokkaiden välisen väittelyn mukava sävy yllätti, kirjoittaa Ylen Yhdysvaltain-kirjeenvaihtaja Iida Tikka.</p><figure class="sc-kJZLhT cBXraX yle__article__figure"><script type="application/ld+json">{"@id":"74-20115250","@context":"https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215/https://schema.org","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","description":"Republikaanien varapresidenttiehdokas J.D. 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Heitä vasta päätä J. D. Vance pitää kättä vaimonsa Usha Vance alaselällä." src="https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215im_/https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,h_2879,w_5119,x_0,y_213/ar_1.7777777777777777,c_fill,g_faces,h_431,w_767/dpr_1.0/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/v1727839621/39-135710466fcbc7584d32" class="sc-kEsJEW bUUeLL"/></picture></div><div class="sc-fXwCOG kLfXOk"><button aria-disabled="false" class="sc-ivxoEo sc-kLhKbu eByFLI hhnzet"><span class="sc-dpBQxM kZHGnn yds-button__content">Avaa kuvien katselu</span></button></div></div></div><figcaption class="sc-gohMHu infMfp"><span>Republikaanien varapresidenttiehdokas J.D. Vance ja hänen Usha-vaimonsa vaihtoivat väittelyn jälkeen kohteliaisuuksia demokraattien varapresidenttiehdokas Tim Walzin ja tämän Glen-vaimon kanssa.</span><span> Kuva: Chip Somodevilla / AFP</span></figcaption></figure><div class="sc-gzKHra ceBYFO"><figure class="sc-eFGuOL dRdnMX"><div class="sc-geoRQH cqQSHG"><picture><source data-testid="source-for-S" srcset="https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215im_/https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,h_4014,w_4014,x_1184,y_0/ar_1.0,c_fill,g_faces,h_74,w_74/dpr_2.0/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/v1596020778/39-7034305f21569ab6230 2x, https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215im_/https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,h_4014,w_4014,x_1184,y_0/ar_1.0,c_fill,g_faces,h_74,w_74/dpr_1.0/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/v1596020778/39-7034305f21569ab6230 1x"/><img alt="Iida Tikka kuvattuna studiossa valkoisella taustalla." src="https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215im_/https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,h_3384,w_6016,x_0,y_320/ar_1.7777777777777777,c_fill,g_faces,h_41,w_74/dpr_1.0/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/v1596020778/39-7034305f21569ab6230" class="sc-kEsJEW bUUeLL"/></picture></div></figure><div class="sc-ezhwIN eldDUa"><span class="sc-iPHsxv sc-fHgmia ckWsUl hUPoDp">Iida Tikka</span><span class="sc-kcYkIz sc-dpyio drrmso iobkty">Yhdysvaltain-kirjeenvaihtaja</span></div></div><div class="sc-feCMOb iQwgKi"><div class="sc-gYGZqq gdZOjj yle__article__date"><time class="sc-jGSdlx fxCtdH yle__article__date--published" datetime="2024-10-02T07:41:00+03:00">7:41</time></div></div><div class="sc-jXpgWc joSncZ"><div class="sc-ddLvXF CaRJe"></div><div class="sc-bhcutL hIPcxY"></div></div></header><section class="yle__article__content"><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph"><strong class="sc-dRlUCX gZPRaT yle__article__strong">WASHINGTON</strong>. Kun demokraattien varapresidenttiehdokas <strong class="sc-dRlUCX gZPRaT yle__article__strong">Tim Walz</strong> ja republikaanien varapresidenttiehdokas <strong class="sc-dRlUCX gZPRaT yle__article__strong">JD Vance</strong> kohtasivat väittelylavalla, amerikkalaiset odottivat raivokkaita hyökkäyksiä ja molemminpuolista piikittelyä.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Mutta niin ei käynyt. Katsojien suureksi yllätykseksi lavalla nähtiin kaksi miestä, jotka puhuivat asiallisesti ja pysyivät aikalailla asiassa.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Erityinen yllätys oli JD Vance, joka on ollut epäsuosittu jopa republikaanien joukossa <a class="sc-byRyzU bHmPz yle__article__link" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215/https://yle.fi/a/74-20101436" role="link">kiusallisten kommenttiensa takia</a>. Väittelylavalla hän esiintyi rauhallisesti ja asiapitoisesti.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Ehdokkaat olivat jopa pinnallisesti samaa mieltä joistain asioista, vaikka heitä ei yhdistäkään mikään muu kuin sukupuoli ja kotiseutu Keskilännessä.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">JD Vance on 40-vuotias ensimmäisen kauden senaattori, joka on opiskellut oikeustiedettä huippuyliopistossa. Walz, 60, on entinen opettaja, joka on edustanut Minnesotaa yli kymmenen vuotta edustajainhuoneessa ja johtanut osavaltiota kahden kauden ajan kuvernöörinä.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Myös ehdokkaiden retorinen tyyli on hyvin erilainen, ja se toi esiin televisioväittelyiden heikkouden.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Parhaiten se kävi ilmi keskustelussa, jossa Suomi nousi yllättäen väittelyn keskiöön.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph"><strong class="sc-dRlUCX gZPRaT yle__article__strong">JD Vance käytti väittelyn</strong> aikana tekniikkaa, joka on väittelyissä tehokas: hän puhui nopeasti ja paljon. Silloin mukaan saa niin paljon asiaa, ettei vastaväittelijä edes voi reagoida kaikkeen, varsinkaan jos tämä haluaa sanoa omiakin kommenttejaan.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Parhaiten se tuli ilmi, kun puhe kääntyi aseväkivaltaan.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Vastatessaan aseväkivaltaa koskevaan kysymykseen Vance aloitti kuvailemalla sitä, miten ihania lapset ovat matkalla kouluun, ja sitten sanoi että jotain pitää tehdä. Sen jälkeen hän väitti, että laittomat aseet tulevat Yhdysvaltoihin Meksikon huumekartellien mukana, että kouluissa pitää lisätä turvallisuutta, ja että aseväkivalta on pahinta kaupungeissa.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Pitkä vastaus hukuttaa sisälleen monia teemoja, joiden faktantarkistus on vastustajalle mahdotonta, varsinkin, kun väittelyä vetäneet toimittajat eivät edes yrittäneet.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Esimerkiksi: On totta, että Yhdysvaltain ja Meksikon rajalla virtaa valtavasti aseita. Meksikon huumekartellit nimittäin saavat suuren osan aseistaan Yhdysvalloista - viranomaisten mukaan <a class="sc-byRyzU bHmPz yle__article__link" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215/https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/infographics-arms-trafficking-across-us-mexico-border" role="link">melkein 70 prosenttia Meksikossa takavarikoiduista aseista</a> on kulkeutunut maahan Yhdysvalloista. Ilman tätä kontekstia syy Yhdysvaltain aseväkivallasta on helppo vierittää etelärajan yli.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph"><strong class="sc-dRlUCX gZPRaT yle__article__strong">Tim Walz taas puhui paljon hitaammin</strong>, ja käyttäen simppeleitä esimerkkejä - kuten Suomea.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Walz vastasi samassa asekeskustelussa käyneensä Suomessa, kouluampumisia ei ole, vaikka aseita on paljon.</p><figure class="sc-kJZLhT ersrhc yle__article__figure"><script type="application/ld+json">{"@id":"74-20115250","@context":"https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215/https://schema.org","video":{"@type":"VideoObject","name":"Walz ja Vance aseista ja Suomesta","thumbnailUrl":"https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215/https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_fill,g_faces,w_1200/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/39-135709766fcb29f47005","uploadDate":"2024-10-02T05:46:02+03:00"}}</script><div class="sc-bKXUjo juBWPl"><div><div data-testid="video-player" class="sc-eEVuZf caHjvh"></div></div></div></figure><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Walz myös muistutti, että iso osa Yhdysvaltain asekuolemista on maaseudulla tapahtuvia itsemurhia. Tämä on totta, Yhdysvaltain asekuolemista yli puolet on itsemurhia.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">– Arvostan sitä, mitä Tim sanoi Suomesta, koska se näyttää oudot erot maidemme välillä. Meillä on enemmän mielenterveys- ja huumeongelmia valitettavasti, Vance sanoi.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Koko keskustelu pysyi siis sivistyneenä, vaikka väittelijöiden tyyli oli hyvin erilainen.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph"><strong class="sc-dRlUCX gZPRaT yle__article__strong">Varapresidenttiväittelyllä ei perinteisesti</strong> ole vaikutusta vaalien tulokseen, vaikka varapresidentin merkitys on korostunut viime vaalien jälkeen valtavasti.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Ensinnäkin, sekä Trumpiin kohdistuneet salamurhayritykset että tämän ikä muistuttavat siitä, miten helposti varapresidentistä saattaa yhtäkkiä tulla supervallan johtaja.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Toiseksi, viime vaalien jälkeen moni amerikkalainen tajusi ensi kertaa varapresidentin roolin vallan vaihdoksessa. Nimenomaan varapresidentti vahvistaa vaalien tuloksen.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Väittelyn loppupuolella Tim Walz nosti asian pöydälle. Vance on aiemmissa lausunnoissaan sanonut, ettei olisi vahvistanut vaalien tulosta.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">Walzin tivatessa vastaehdokkaaltaan sitä, hävisikö <strong class="sc-dRlUCX gZPRaT yle__article__strong">Donald Trump</strong> vuoden 2020 vaalit, Vance kiersi kysymyksen eikä vastannut.</p><p class="sc-dwGkES sc-kUiVwB fmZXof jeOJHA yle__article__paragraph">– Missä on palomuuri Trumpin kanssa? Missä on palomuuri, jos hän tietää voivansa tehdä mitä vaan, jopa viedä vaalit, eikä hänen varapresidenttinsä estä sitä, Walz kysyi.</p></section><footer class="yle__article__footer"><h2 class="sc-cCirkR dupvHU">Aiheesta enemmän: Paketissa 2 linkkiä</h2><h2 class="sc-klYcpz hWgJbu yle__article__heading yle__article__heading--3" aria-hidden="true">Aiheesta enemmän</h2><div class="yle__article__links" role="list" aria-label="Aiheesta enemmän"><div role="listitem" class="sc-fKAjen bBzdbb"><div class="sc-cOfyym ipxzyA"><div class="sc-heWFoB irKmDb"><div class="sc-btiQdf eZtqcB"><div class="sc-dxYlaw eITWZf"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215/https://yle.fi/t/18-345335/fi" aria-label="Lisää artikkeleita aiheesta Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaalit 2024" class="sc-fIfZzT kEtXGR">Yhdysvaltain presidentinvaalit 2024</a></div><h3 class="sc-dabxBu GYVCH"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215/https://yle.fi/a/74-20115242" class="sc-bRfDCh iiSyRB">Suomi nousi esille Yhdysvaltain varapresidenttiväittelyssä – katso kohokohdat</a></h3><time class="sc-vZGLb sRMQM">06:31</time></div></div><div class="sc-eiBUIA kuZKfN"><div class="sc-cOoMUl iISNdD"><div class="sc-geoRQH cqQSHG"><picture><source data-testid="source-for-S" media="(max-width: 767px)" srcset="https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215im_/https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,h_3413,w_3413,x_706,y_0/ar_1.0,c_fill,g_faces,h_104,w_104/dpr_2.0/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/v1727865508/39-135709966fcb5af0de73 2x, https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215im_/https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,h_3413,w_3413,x_706,y_0/ar_1.0,c_fill,g_faces,h_104,w_104/dpr_1.0/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/v1727865508/39-135709966fcb5af0de73 1x"/><source data-testid="source-for-M" media="(min-width: 768px)" srcset="https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215im_/https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,h_2879,w_5119,x_0,y_0/ar_1.7777777777777777,c_fill,g_faces,h_110,w_196/dpr_2.0/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/v1727865508/39-135709966fcb5af0de73 2x, https://web.archive.org/web/20241002170215im_/https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,h_2879,w_5119,x_0,y_0/ar_1.7777777777777777,c_fill,g_faces,h_110,w_196/dpr_1.0/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/v1727865508/39-135709966fcb5af0de73 1x"/><img alt="J. 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