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typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Softalk-1980-09.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Cover of the September 1980 issue (Vol 1, No. 1)" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/61/Softalk-1980-09.jpg/220px-Softalk-1980-09.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="283" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/Softalk-1980-09.jpg 1.5x" data-file-width="278" data-file-height="358" /></a></span><div class="infobox-caption">September 1980 issue (Vol 1, No. 1)</div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label"><a href="/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation" title="List of magazines by circulation">Circulation</a></th><td class="infobox-data">150,000<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">First issue</th><td class="infobox-data">September 1980</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" 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the early 1980s that focused on the <a href="/wiki/Apple_II" title="Apple II">Apple II</a> computer. Published from September 1980 through August 1984,<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> it featured articles about hardware and software associated with the Apple II platform and the people and companies who made them. The name was originally used on a newsletter of Apple Software pioneer company, <a href="/wiki/Softape" title="Softape">Softape</a>, who in 1980 changed its name to Artsci Inc. </p><p>The startup capital for <i>Softalk</i> came from <a href="/wiki/Margot_Comstock" title="Margot Comstock">Margot Comstock</a>, who had won on the <a href="/wiki/Television" title="Television">television</a> <a href="/wiki/Game_show" title="Game show">game show</a> <i><a href="/wiki/Password_(American_game_show)" title="Password (American game show)">Password</a>,</i> along with a generous contribution after a few months from John Haller and from Comstock and Al Tommervik's second mortgage on their house. Partners William V R Smith III, William Depew contributed early office space in their Softape storeroom and arrived unexpectedly with office desks when Softalk moved into its own location. </p><p>Unlike other computer magazines that generally focused on a specific, narrow subject matter or market segment (e.g., business applications, games, or professional programming), <i>Softalk</i> gave broad coverage to all parts of the Apple world of the time, from <a href="/wiki/Software_programming" class="mw-redirect" title="Software programming">programming</a> tips to game playing, from business to home use, including computing as an industry, a hobby, a tool, a toy, and a culture. On occasion it even ran fiction. </p><p>Another characteristic of the magazine was a playful, insider-like voice.<sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="margin-left:0.1em; white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Words_to_watch#Unsupported_attributions" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch"><span title="The material near this tag may use weasel words or too-vague attribution. (October 2018)">according to whom?</span></a></i>]</sup> The experts in those early days chatted in their <a href="/wiki/Jargon" title="Jargon">own relaxed language</a> about the techniques and elements of their world. Bert Kersey, <a href="/wiki/Beagle_Bros" title="Beagle Bros">Beagle Bros</a>, was one columnist; as were <a href="/wiki/Doug_Carlston" title="Doug Carlston">Doug Carlston</a>, co-founder of <a href="/wiki/Broderbund" title="Broderbund">Broderbund</a> software; <a href="/wiki/Mark_Pelczarski" title="Mark Pelczarski">Mark Pelczarski</a>, founder of <a href="/wiki/Penguin_Software" title="Penguin Software">Penguin Software</a>; <a href="/wiki/Bill_Budge" title="Bill Budge">Bill Budge</a>, creator of <i><a href="/wiki/Pinball_Construction_Set" title="Pinball Construction Set">Pinball Construction Set</a></i>; and Bill Depew, creator of <i>Apple 21</i> and <i>Magic Window</i>. </p><p>A regular feature was a monthly chart of the most popular software in various categories, which was the Apple community's equivalent of the <i><a href="/wiki/Billboard_magazine" class="mw-redirect" title="Billboard magazine">Billboard</a></i> charts for pop music. Unlike most such bestseller lists, which report shipment from warehouses, not sales, <i>Softalk'</i>s bestseller numbers were drawn from polling retail sales in computer stores throughout the world. There were also contests encouraging the participation of readers. Originally, <i>Softalk</i> was sent free to all registered Apple owners, but later it required paid subscription after one free year. Softalk underwent rapid expansion in its early history, with issues getting very thick (largely from advertising), but an industry slump in 1984 caught <i>Softalk</i> with too much unrealized revenues against heavy printing costs, which overtaxed its undercapitalized status. Rather than take the desperate path of erratic publication, the <i>Softalk</i> board chose to cease publication. In its 48 influential months, the original <i>Softalk</i> readership grew from 30,000 names loaned by Apple Computer Inc. to 250,000 readers. In its third and fourth years, <i>Softalk</i> achieved a place on the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Folio_400&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Folio 400 (page does not exist)">Folio 400</a> list of the nation's largest magazines. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Related_publications">Related publications</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Softalk&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Related publications"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>When the <a href="/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer" title="IBM Personal Computer">IBM PC</a> came on the market, Softalk Publishing started "'Softalk for the IBM PC."' And with the advent of the <a href="/wiki/Mac_(computer)" title="Mac (computer)">Macintosh</a>, Softalk Publishing launched <i>Softalk Mac</i>, written as <i>ST. Mac</i>. For a few years Softalk Publishing published a magazine begun by <a href="/wiki/Sierra_Entertainment" title="Sierra Entertainment">On-Line Systems</a>: <i>Softline,</i> renamed to <i>ST. Game</i> for its final issue. </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Disk_magazine" title="Disk magazine">disk magazine</a> <i><a href="/wiki/Softdisk_(disk_magazine)" title="Softdisk (disk magazine)">Softdisk</a></i> was originally partly owned by <i>Softalk</i>, and survived on its own. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="References">References</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Softalk&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: References"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://jonathanlessard.net/?p=171">"Early Computer Game Genre Preferences (1980-1984) – Jonathan Lessard"</a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=unknown&rft.btitle=Early+Computer+Game+Genre+Preferences+%281980-1984%29+%E2%80%93+Jonathan+Lessard&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fjonathanlessard.net%2F%3Fp%3D171&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ASoftalk" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-2">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://gist.github.com/Jim-Salmons/9495015">"Issue Profiles"</a>. <i>The Softalk Apple Project</i><span class="reference-accessdate">. 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