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candidate"><abbr title="Discuss this template">t</abbr></a></li><li class="nv-edit"><a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:Arbitration_Committee_candidate" title="Special:EditPage/Template:Arbitration Committee candidate"><abbr title="Edit this template">e</abbr></a></li></ul></div> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2024">Arbitration Committee Election 2024</a> candidate: <b><a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a></b> <ul><li>Cast your vote <b><a href="/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/813" title="Special:SecurePoll/vote/813">here</a></b>.</li></ul> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Statement" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Candidates/Daniel/Statement">Candidate statement</a></li> <li><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Questions for the candidate</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel" title="Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Candidates/Daniel">Discuss this candidate</a></li></ul> </div></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Individual_questions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Individual_questions-20241113002000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Individual_questions-20241113002000"></span>Individual questions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Individual_questions-20241113002000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Individual questions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div 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You may also ask a reasonable number of follow-up questions relevant to questions you have already asked. </p> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>Note from Daniel — I'm currently travelling overseas so replies may be slightly delayed, apologies in advance. Also, I'm going to keep responses deliberately short for two reasons; firstly I'm away from home so it's hard to sit down and punch out mini-essays. Secondly, given there's 12 candidates all with lots of questions and answers, information overload is a real risk for those reading answers. If any editor would like me to expand on any answer below, please feel free to flick me a note on my talk page and I'd be happy to elaborate. Cheers, Daniel.</i></dd></dl> <ol><li>Thank you for standing as a candidate. Please describe what makes you feel (a) optimistic and (b) pessimistic about the future of the project. Best, <b><a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">KevinL</a></b> (<small>aka</small> <a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">L235</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:L235#top" title="User talk:L235">t</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/L235" title="Special:Contributions/L235">c</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-L235-20241113002000-Individual_questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L235-20241113002000-Individual_questions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L235-20241113002000-Individual_questions"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241114003000-L235-20241113002000"></span>Optimistic - longevity. We're still around! This project has amazing resilience. Reform - have seen things like administrator elections and recall get through recently, which are both (in my opinion) steps in the right direction. It also shows the community is able to continuously improve.<br/>Pessimistic - partisanship. Reflecting the real world, opposite viewpoints are becoming further apart, and the common ground for respectful and constructive discourse seems to be narrowing. Editor retention - very concerned that not enough is being done to protect content contributors in difficult areas from disruptive actors. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241114003000-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241114003000-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241114003000-L235-20241113002000"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L235-20241113002000-L235-20241113002000"></span>Please identify a substantive decision of the committee that you disagreed with within the last 3 years, and explain why. Best, <b><a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">KevinL</a></b> (<small>aka</small> <a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">L235</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:L235#top" title="User talk:L235">t</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/L235" title="Special:Contributions/L235">c</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-L235-20241113002000-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L235-20241113002000-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L235-20241113002000-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241114003000-L235-20241113002000-1"></span>This is easy for me; the most dangerous set of FoF's I've seen was <i>Scottywong</i>. I said as much on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong/Proposed_decision" title="Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong/Proposed decision">proposed decision talk page</a>. Scotty was in the wrong with his initial conduct, absolutely, but <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong/Proposed_decision#Scottywong's_manner" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong/Proposed decision">dredging up evidence from 10-12 years ago to justify a decision</a> was below the standards I expect from the Committee. Further, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong/Proposed_decision#Scottywong's_behaviour_during_the_case" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong/Proposed decision">this finding of fact</a> actually has a chilling effect on future participation in Arbitration proceedings and the presentation of evidence, which can't be considered a good thing (surely we want parties engaging, not avoiding, ArbCom proceedings?). Please also see Newyorkbrad and Anomie's comments on the PD talk page for further context. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241114003000-L235-20241113002000-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241114003000-L235-20241113002000-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241114003000-L235-20241113002000-1"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241113174500-L235-20241113002000"></span>Are there any topic areas from which you would recuse yourself from while acting as an arbitrator? If so, what set of facts informs that decision? — <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed hawk</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241113174500-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241113174500-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241113174500-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241114003700-Red-tailed_hawk-20241113174500"></span>Interesting question. At this stage, no, unless there is an arbitration case about <a href="/wiki/1999_Sydney_hailstorm" title="1999 Sydney hailstorm">Sydney hailstorms</a> or <a href="/wiki/Central_Coast_Mariners_FC" title="Central Coast Mariners FC">Australian football (soccer) clubs</a>! More likely is I would need to recuse due to <i>editor conflict</i> rather than a topic area conflict, simply because I don't edit in contentious areas. To give a contemporaneous example, I'd likely have to recuse if <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=1252393936#Lightburst_making_poorly_disguised_personal_attacks_and_hosting_WP:POLEMIC_content_in_his_userpage">this general dispute</a> ended up at RfAR (again) given my close of the ANI omnibus discussion (associated user talk page discussion <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel/Archive/114#Thank_you!" title="User talk:Daniel/Archive/114">here</a>). I offered some strident commentary post-close to those who objected to said close, about an issue fundamental to the ongoing dispute (ie. the standing of editors), and this would surely cause at least a perception of being conflicted and therefore recusal would be necessary. It is fair to say I would err on the side of recusing more than less, should I be elected, so as to protect the integrity of the Committee. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241114003700-Red-tailed_hawk-20241113174500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241114003700-Red-tailed_hawk-20241113174500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241114003700-Red-tailed_hawk-20241113174500"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carrite-20241113194400-L235-20241113002000"></span>What do you feel should be the standard for Arbcom accepting a case based upon secret evidence? What measures should Arbcom take in such a case to ensure the community is informed of the outlines of the accusation and to defend the rights of the accused to respond to their accuser and to supply contrary evidence in their defense from the community? <a href="/wiki/User:Carrite" title="User:Carrite">Carrite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carrite" title="User talk:Carrite">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Carrite-20241113194400-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carrite-20241113194400-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carrite-20241113194400-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241114004200-Carrite-20241113194400"></span>Simply put, I think cases need to be <i>extraordinary</i> to be conducted based predominantly or entirely off private evidence — whether that be extraordinary alleged behaviour, extraordinary divisiveness within the community, or extraordinary risk to the project for not taking action. This 'extraordinary' threshold would be higher than the standard threshold to accept a 'normal', public case. In short, the Committee really should have no choice but to take it, if we're taking a private case (as private evidence is something that should be resisted generally). To extend that principle further, everything possible should be made public, whether in full or summarised. I think for a private case, it should be voted on in public at every stage (acceptance at RfAR, proposed decision etc.). Finally, if the private evidence cannot be shared in a form close to completeness with the 'accused' (to use your term) to offer a response, in my opinion it shouldn't be allowed to be relied upon as justification for a decision. Natural justice is incredibly important to me, and I believe these statements reflect this position. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241114004200-Carrite-20241113194400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241114004200-Carrite-20241113194400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241114004200-Carrite-20241113194400"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-George_Ho-20241113235100-L235-20241113002000"></span>Recently, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_recall" title="Wikipedia:Administrator recall">WP:Administrator recall</a>, including <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RRFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RRFA">WP:RRFA</a>, has become <s>procedural policy</s>. Theoretically and practically, how would the admin recalling process affect the activity of ArbCom in any way? <a href="/wiki/User:George_Ho" title="User:George Ho">George Ho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:George_Ho" title="User talk:George Ho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-George_Ho-20241113235100-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a>; edited, 01:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-George_Ho-20241113235100-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-George_Ho-20241113235100-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241114005200-George_Ho-20241113235100"></span>It took five questions to get asked about Administrator recall, which is three more than where my bet would have been on! Firstly, I support administrator recall as a concept and am proud of the community for getting both this and administrator elections over the line (see answer to Q2 and my comments <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_elections/October_2024/Debrief&oldid=1256705708#Daniel">here</a>). That being said, I've been pretty strident in my commentary around making the recall process as 'fair' and 'humane' for administrators put through it, including challenging the length of time that a recall runs for and the ability for them to provide a structured response (back when the filer had a chance to make a statement at the top of the page). This is the same fairness and humanity-oriented approach I would take to being on ArbCom, and links to my answer to Q4 above. <br/>I'm sure many people disagree with my views on recall, either dislking the entire recall concept (which I support) or disliking the two proposed alterations (which I think the process needs to be improved), but I hope people can appreciate my views comes from a position of trying to optimise a new process and find the balance between process and people.<br/>None of this has answered your question though. In short — <i>I don't know right now</i>. Potentially issues may get kicked back to recall to deal with, although maybe they won't? Can being recalled/having a RRfA become a proposed remedy? The only thing I do think will happen with some level of confidence is that I expect that at least some ADMINCOND cases that would have ended up at ArbCom may not any more, as they will be short-circuited by ending up at recall instead. I look at very recent examples such as <i>Arbitration motion regarding Marine 69-71</i> as being one that likely wouldn't end up at ArbCom in 2025 on this basis. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241114005200-George_Ho-20241113235100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241114005200-George_Ho-20241113235100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241114005200-George_Ho-20241113235100"></span></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-George_Ho-20241124013700-Daniel-20241114005200"></span>Just for an update, the consensus at a VP discussion decided (<span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1258993204">diff</a></span>) to no longer label RRFA a "policy". <a href="/wiki/User:George_Ho" title="User:George Ho">George Ho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:George_Ho" title="User talk:George Ho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-George_Ho-20241124013700-Daniel-20241114005200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-George_Ho-20241124013700-Daniel-20241114005200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-George_Ho-20241124013700-Daniel-20241114005200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tinynanorobots-20241114100100-L235-20241113002000"></span>Do you think that committee members should go into an ArbCom case with the goal to implement a specific remedy, regardless of preliminary evidence, or should committee members try and approach the case with an open mind? <a href="/wiki/User:Tinynanorobots" title="User:Tinynanorobots">Tinynanorobots</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tinynanorobots" title="User talk:Tinynanorobots">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Tinynanorobots-20241114100100-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tinynanorobots-20241114100100-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tinynanorobots-20241114100100-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241115223500-Tinynanorobots-20241114100100"></span>Absolutely not. They need to have an idea that they can apply some sort of remedy that will be effective based on the information presented at the filing at RfAr, otherwise there's no point accepting the case (eg. content disputes should be declined). But, in terms of actual specifics, if a case is accepted it is opened to explore all possible outcomes based on the evidence presented. Where the facts aren't in dispute, for example the recent desysopping of Marine 69-71, motions can provide an efficient solution to a problem that doesn't require the exploration of a whole case. But if you open a case to explore an issue, it should be done with an open mind, and comments to the contrary of this should be avoided by arbitrators at the acceptance stage with their votes to accept/decline (something that hasn't been done particularly well this year.) <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241115223500-Tinynanorobots-20241114100100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:35, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241115223500-Tinynanorobots-20241114100100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241115223500-Tinynanorobots-20241114100100"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martinevans123-20241114195400-L235-20241113002000"></span>Topical and somewhat urgent question: what's your view on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:2024_open_letter_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation" title="Wikipedia:2024 open letter to the Wikimedia Foundation">Wikipedia:2024 open letter to the Wikimedia Foundation</a> and the RfC <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#RfC:_Should_a_blackout_be_organized_in_protest_of_the_Wikimedia_Foundation's_actions?" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)">here</a></b>? Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123" title="User talk:Martinevans123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Martinevans123-20241114195400-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martinevans123-20241114195400-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martinevans123-20241114195400-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241115224500-Martinevans123-20241114195400"></span>I offered up an opinion very early in the piece of this issue, see my two comments <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(WMF)&diff=prev&oldid=1252433544">here</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(WMF)&diff=prev&oldid=1252435986">here</a>. I think this is a very dangerous game that WMF are playing, for two reasons — showing that the Foundation are willing to play ball with foreign governments with autocratic executives and/or judiciaries (rather than its previous general position of 'get lost', which has been long-term effective in places like Turkey etc.), but also for editor retention, engagement and trust in the WMF protecting them. I acknowledge this is hardly a revolutionary view to hold, based on the amount of support the open letter has received. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241115224500-Martinevans123-20241114195400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241115224500-Martinevans123-20241114195400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241115224500-Martinevans123-20241114195400"></span></div></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martinevans123-20241115225200-Martinevans123-20241114195400"></span>Thanks for your answer, Daniel. Yep, funny old thing this t'inter-webs lark, ain't it. Almost as if national laws are irrelevant. Until suddenly they're not. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123" title="User talk:Martinevans123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Martinevans123-20241115225200-Martinevans123-20241114195400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martinevans123-20241115225200-Martinevans123-20241114195400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martinevans123-20241115225200-Martinevans123-20241114195400"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241114220600-L235-20241113002000"></span>I'm interested to hear people's thought processes beyond just reciting project-space shortcuts. Please would you pick one of <a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell/Essays/Musings" title="User:HJ Mitchell/Essays/Musings">my musings</a> to fight me on and tell me why you think I'm wrong. Alternatively, you could pick one that resonates with you and tell me why you think it doesn't enjoy wider community support. Thank you, both for taking the time to answer this question and for volunteering to serve. <a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell"><b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HJ_Mitchell" title="User talk:HJ Mitchell"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-HJ_Mitchell-20241114220600-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241114220600-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241114220600-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241115223100-HJ_Mitchell-20241114220600"></span>I'm going to take you on at <i>"Wikipedians are fond of calling processes things they're not. For example, processes like AfD ... are called discussions and many Wikipedians go to great lengths not to call them votes. They are votes. We expect editors to provide a rationale for their vote (more so at AfD than RfA), but strength of argument rarely trumps numerical superiority"</i> — but it won't be today, I've had a full day of travel. Will get to this over the weekend (Central American time). <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241115223100-HJ_Mitchell-20241114220600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241115223100-HJ_Mitchell-20241114220600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241115223100-HJ_Mitchell-20241114220600"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thebiguglyalien-20241115035600-L235-20241113002000"></span>In your opinion, what is Arbcom's role in addressing non-neutral editing and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CPUSH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CPUSH">WP:CPUSH</a> behavior? <a href="/wiki/User:Thebiguglyalien" title="User:Thebiguglyalien"><span style="color:#324717">The</span><span style="color:#45631f">big</span><span style="color:#547826">ugly</span><span style="color:#68942f">alien</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thebiguglyalien" title="User talk:Thebiguglyalien"><span style="color:sienna">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Thebiguglyalien-20241115035600-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thebiguglyalien-20241115035600-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thebiguglyalien-20241115035600-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241117181900-Thebiguglyalien-20241115035600"></span>I don't think ArbCom is equipped to deal with it particularly well given the way it's set up and its mandate to focus on conduct rather than content, except in the most egregious of cases which can be captured in an evidence and workshop phase. However, where it is prevalent within a topic area, ArbCom should absolutely be enabling uninvolved administrators to take action using the contentious topics toolkit. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241117181900-Thebiguglyalien-20241115035600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241117181900-Thebiguglyalien-20241115035600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241117181900-Thebiguglyalien-20241115035600"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isaacl-20241115184000-L235-20241113002000"></span>What have you done to prepare yourself to understand the arbitration committee's workload, and to manage your time to handle it? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">isaacl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isaacl" title="User talk:Isaacl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Isaacl-20241115184000-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isaacl-20241115184000-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isaacl-20241115184000-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241115222900-Isaacl-20241115184000"></span>Former clerk (a long time ago, I concede) so I am roughly aware of the workings of the Committee. As mentioned in my nomination statement, the sort of activity required for an Arbitrator to be effective suits my real-world situation perfectly. Actively edit 3-4 times a week at a minimum, travel a fair bit so can keep track of discussions and emails on my phone remotely. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241115222900-Isaacl-20241115184000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:29, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241115222900-Isaacl-20241115184000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241115222900-Isaacl-20241115184000"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DanCherek-20241115212500-L235-20241113002000"></span>Thank you for your answer to Q3, and about erring "on the side of recusing more than less". How about for other arbitrators – if a request for another arbitrator's recusal was referred to the Committee (e.g., during a case request), what would be your decision-making process? <a href="/wiki/User:DanCherek" title="User:DanCherek">DanCherek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DanCherek" title="User talk:DanCherek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-DanCherek-20241115212500-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DanCherek-20241115212500-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DanCherek-20241115212500-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241115222800-DanCherek-20241115212500"></span>I would advocate for my threshold to be applied, but will respect if I am outvoted on that. After all, the Committee decides as a collective. It should be protecting the appearance of impartiality though, and recusing when borderline feels like an 'easy win' in that regards. There are (hopefully) 14 other active Arbitrators who can reach a decision without one who may cast a shadow over an end result. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241115222800-DanCherek-20241115212500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241115222800-DanCherek-20241115212500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241115222800-DanCherek-20241115212500"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DanCherek-20241115212500-L235-20241113002000-1"></span>When ArbCom posts the result of a private deliberation, it sometimes releases the vote breakdown (listing which arbitrators supported, opposed, or abstained) and other times it doesn't. What standard would you personally apply in terms of considering whether to include that? <a href="/wiki/User:DanCherek" title="User:DanCherek">DanCherek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DanCherek" title="User talk:DanCherek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-DanCherek-20241115212500-L235-20241113002000-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DanCherek-20241115212500-L235-20241113002000-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DanCherek-20241115212500-L235-20241113002000-1"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241115222600-DanCherek-20241115212500"></span>The list of how members voted should always be posted - the current Functionaries appointments kerfuffle is showing that, I want to know who supported and who didn't (rather than having arbitrators come along individually to say). I don't understand what circumstances it would need to be hidden? If there are, it needs to meet the <i>extraordinary</i> threshold mentioned in Q3. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241115222600-DanCherek-20241115212500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241115222600-DanCherek-20241115212500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241115222600-DanCherek-20241115212500"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ealdgyth-20241117143400-L235-20241113002000"></span>In looking at your contributions, I'm seeing some rather large gaps - although the gap from 2015 to 2021 is explained in your candidate statement. But, you didn't edit for 10 months in 2022, and although you did edit a good bit in October, several other months this year, you've not edited much more than 100 edits. What makes you sure you'll have time for the heavy load of ArbCom? <a href="/wiki/User:Ealdgyth" title="User:Ealdgyth">Ealdgyth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ealdgyth" title="User talk:Ealdgyth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Ealdgyth-20241117143400-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ealdgyth-20241117143400-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ealdgyth-20241117143400-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241116181600-Ealdgyth-20241117143400"></span>To answer your first question about 2022, I had a work secondment that has subsequently opened the door for my new role. This role (that I've been in since mid-2023) is what is providing me the flexibility and time to edit more reliably. With the second part, there is only one month that is less than 160 edits (July, 116), so "not edited much more than 100 edits [per month]" seems like quite a harsh way to generalise that dataset (179, 192, 168, 166 and 192 are presumably the numbers you are talking about when you say "several other months"). But secondly and most importantly for me, the quality of the edits is far more important. Closing complex DRV's, closing ANI discussions, reading community conversations etc. all take time that isn't reflected in edit count. If a voter wants a machine who pumps out 2,000 edits a month, I am not their candidate. But more specifically, I don't think volume equals value when it comes to being an arbitrator.<br/>However, if we're crunching the numbers, I believe a more fair stat that better reflects <i>availability</i> is "how many unique days this year have I edited on" - and using UTC days for no other reason than its the easiest arbitrary dataset to review, I have edited on pretty much two-thirds of all unique days this year to the end of October (201 out of 305, or <b>65.9%</b> of unique UTC days). I have a data dump summary <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Daniel&oldid=1257796694">here</a> of the raw data if that helps break it down for you and others, but I am always around, always reading discussions, even if sometimes I can't edit that particular day as easily if I'm away from my desk. (For context as to that number of days edited, I am likely to spend nearly 175 days away from home this year between work and vacation come December 31— so I think I'm doing OK on the edit front count considering that! As mentioned in my nomination statement, I am on emails and on my phone every day and stay up to date with things, even if I've only edit on two-thirds of days this year so far. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241116181600-Ealdgyth-20241117143400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241116181600-Ealdgyth-20241117143400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241116181600-Ealdgyth-20241117143400"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ealdgyth-20241117143400-L235-20241113002000-1"></span>You mention involvement in community discussions at the noticeboards - can you give some examples of where you think your involvement has helped resolve conflicts? Or where you aided in resolving a dispute? <a href="/wiki/User:Ealdgyth" title="User:Ealdgyth">Ealdgyth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ealdgyth" title="User talk:Ealdgyth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Ealdgyth-20241117143400-L235-20241113002000-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ealdgyth-20241117143400-L235-20241113002000-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ealdgyth-20241117143400-L235-20241113002000-1"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241116183900-Ealdgyth-20241117143400"></span>I back my ability to a) assess the evidence and community sentiment in front of me to find the right outcomes and b) have the courage of my convinctions to act, which are generally supported by the community. I'm going to link-drop just a couple if I may, happy for you and others to read and ask follow-up questions on any if pertinent:<br/>* <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1148#Blocked_indefinitely_-_open_to_review" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1148">ANI — 'Blocked indefinitely - open to review'</a> <i>(note the edit summary in question has subsequently been revdel'd)</i><br/>* <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1169#h-Lightburst_making_poorly_disguised_personal_attacks_and_hosting_WP:POLEMIC_conte-20241017222900" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1169">ANI — 'Lightburst making poorly disguised personal attacks and hosting WP:POLEMIC content in his userpage'</a> (and <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel/Archive/114#Thank_you!" title="User talk:Daniel/Archive/114">subsequent user talk discussion</a>)<br/>* <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1162#h-Ckanopueme:_15_year_SPA-ish-20240722020400" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1162">ANI — 'Ckanopueme: 15 year SPA-ish'</a><br/>* <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive359#FC_Internazionale_Milano" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive359">ANI — 'FC Internazionale Milano'</a><br/>* <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Denial_of_atrocities_during_the_2023_Hamas_attack_on_Israel" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denial of atrocities during the 2023 Hamas attack on Israel">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denial of atrocities during the 2023 Hamas attack on Israel</a><br/>* <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2023_collapse_of_Damar_Hamlin" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2023 collapse of Damar Hamlin">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2023 collapse of Damar Hamlin</a><br/>* <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2023_December" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 December">Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 December</a> & <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2023_November" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 November">Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 November</a> (some random examples)<br/>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241116183900-Ealdgyth-20241117143400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241116183900-Ealdgyth-20241117143400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241116183900-Ealdgyth-20241117143400"></span></div></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ealdgyth-20241117145300-Ealdgyth-20241117143400"></span>As a followup - have you been involved in discussions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement</a>? (I know I could search, but my wiki-search-fu sucks and frankly, I slept badly last night so I'm not up to fighting the bad search functions of wikipedia). If you haven't, not a big deal, just wanted to see examples of actual discussion and back-and-forth in disputes, not just closing of discussions. <a href="/wiki/User:Ealdgyth" title="User:Ealdgyth">Ealdgyth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ealdgyth" title="User talk:Ealdgyth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Ealdgyth-20241117145300-Ealdgyth-20241117143400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ealdgyth-20241117145300-Ealdgyth-20241117143400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ealdgyth-20241117145300-Ealdgyth-20241117143400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241117155500-Ealdgyth-20241117145300"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Ealdgyth" title="User:Ealdgyth">Ealdgyth</a>, very minimal to be honest — <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive328#Mkstokes" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive328">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive328#Mkstokes</a> was the only one that jumped out in my mind when I cast my memory back. I've definitely commented in and closed a number of arbitration appeals at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">WP:AN</a>, but not so much at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARE">WP:ARE</a>. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241117155500-Ealdgyth-20241117145300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241117155500-Ealdgyth-20241117145300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241117155500-Ealdgyth-20241117145300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Luxofluxo-20241119212200-L235-20241113002000"></span>Given the current antisemitism scandal the encyclopaedia is embroiled in, do you understand the anxieties of Jewish editors and users, as well as the 15 million jews worldwide, whose safety is ultimately put at risk when Wikipedia's processes are hijacked to list resources like the ADL as unreliable in certain areas? Will you acknowledge that the encyclopaedia needs to take much firmer action on antisemitism issues at ArbCom level and has been in denial of its scale thus far? <a href="/wiki/User:Luxofluxo" title="User:Luxofluxo">Luxofluxo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luxofluxo" title="User talk:Luxofluxo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Luxofluxo-20241119212200-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Luxofluxo-20241119212200-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Luxofluxo-20241119212200-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241120042200-Luxofluxo-20241119212200"></span>Your question appears to be directly related to an active arbitration proceeding (PIA5), which will open per motion at the end of this month. The Committee explicitly noted this timing will allow the incoming Committee to participate and vote on PIA5. On that basis, I won't be providing any direct comments in response as it will be potentially prejudicial to assessing the evidence presented and subsequently voting on a decision. In more general terms, it is clear that more needs to be done in this whole topic area to protect good-faith editors and resist covert co-ordinated disruption, hence why the Committee has accepted PIA5. This will all (hopefully) be explored in the PIA5 with evidence presented by users, decisions workshopped and eventually voted on by both the outgoing and incoming Committees. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241120042200-Luxofluxo-20241119212200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241120042200-Luxofluxo-20241119212200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241120042200-Luxofluxo-20241119212200"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-L235-20241113002000"></span>There have been and will be public cases involving private evidence. In your opinion, how should the ArbCom maximize transparency with the community in cases involving private evidence while maintaining privacy when necessary?<a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-L235-20241113002000"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241120060400-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800"></span>Hi Robert, I believe my answer to Q4 covers the vast majority of what you're asking, including my general position on private v public. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241120060400-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241120060400-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241120060400-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-L235-20241113002000-1"></span>Sometimes the community is divided as to how to deal with editors who make significant content contributions but who are habitually <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIVIL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIVIL">uncivil</a> or otherwise disruptive, and who have accumulated <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon/Long_Block_Logs" title="User:Robert McClenon/Long Block Logs">long block logs</a>. Do you think that ArbCom should occasionally hear cases focused on individual editors, and, if so, what criteria should ArbCom use in deciding whether to accept such a case?<a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-L235-20241113002000-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-L235-20241113002000-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-L235-20241113002000-1"></span> <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241120060400-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-1"></span>The same standard as other requests — the community is unable to resolve on its own, there is either ongoing disruption or a high chance of it occurring again in the future, and a request is brought to the Committee (likely after multiple noticeboard discussions failed to reach a consensus resolution) asking it to resolve. A long block log in of itself is not a direct cause for concern — the contents within it (ie. length and reason for block, if it was overturned or endorsed at a noticeboard subsequently, if it was a sanction that came reactively from community consensus or was it unilateral, etc.) are far more important. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241120060400-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241120060400-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241120060400-Robert_McClenon-20241120055800-1"></span></div></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel-20241122093500-L235-20241113002000"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256395271">.mw-parser-output .hidden-archive{box-sizing:border-box;border:1px solid #a2a9b1;width:100%;clear:both;text-align:center;padding:1px;margin:0.2em auto 0;font-size:100%}.mw-parser-output .hat-header{padding:0.25em 1em;line-height:1.5em;text-align:center;background-color:#f2dfce;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .hat-content{border:solid 1px silver;padding:8px;background-color:#fff4f2;color:inherit;text-align:left}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .hat-header{background-color:#492b13}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .hat-content{background-color:#391c19}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .hat-header{background-color:#492b13}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .hat-content{background-color:#391c19}}</style></li></ol> <table class="hidden-archive mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed"> <tbody><tr> <th class="hat-header">Violates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBPIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBPIA">WP:ARBPIA</a> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="font-style:italic;">The following discussion has been closed. <span style="color:var(--color-error, red);"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="hat-content"> <ol><li>There has been a recent worrying trend whereby editors have injected their political opinions into sensitive Wikipedia topics (in particular, the Israel - Palestinian conflict, although there are many others as well). Editors will bend the rules in order to ensure that their positions are established in the articles (ie deleting any unfavorable edits to pages describing their preferred parties, claiming sources such as Al Jazeera are considered trustworthy while Jerusalem Post is not etc) resulting in a growing mistrust in articles on this platform. Biased editors will also ban or threaten to ban any editors who undo their biased edits and deletions. What actions will you take to reverse this trend which, if unchecked, will permanently damage Wikipedia's reputation? <dl><dd><div style="background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa); color: inherit; padding: 5px 10px; border: 1px solid #000;">Similar to my answer to Q15, this question relates significantly to a proceeding that will be opened on 30 November and voted on by the new Committee. So as to not prejudice any outcomes of that case should I be elected, it would not be appropriate to presuppose positions or outcomes without seeing the evidence presented in that case. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel" title="User:Daniel">Daniel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel" title="User talk:Daniel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions#c-Daniel-20241122093500-L235-20241113002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel-20241122093500-L235-20241113002000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel-20241122093500-L235-20241113002000"></span></div></dd></dl></li></ol> </td></tr></tbody></table>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions&oldid=1259226115">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Candidates/Daniel/Questions&oldid=1259226115</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 24 November 2024, at 01:37<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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