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<div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="using_positional_parameters" data-mw-thread-id="h-using_positional_parameters-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-using_positional_parameters-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z"></span>using positional parameters<span data-mw-comment-end="h-using_positional_parameters-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Module_talk:Template_wrapper&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: using positional parameters"><span>edit</span></a><span 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That's fine for templates like the cs1|2 templates because they do not use positional parameters but is problematic for templates like <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:ERIC" title="Template:ERIC">ERIC</a>}}</code> which wraps <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Catalog_lookup_link" title="Template:Catalog lookup link">Catalog_lookup_link</a>}}</code>. </p><p>So I've invented a new parameter for <a href="/wiki/Module:Template_wrapper" title="Module:Template wrapper">Module:template wrapper</a>: <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_pass-all=</code> which when set to <code>yes</code> in the module <code>{{#invoke:}}</code> causes the module to pass all wrapper-template parameters except those listed in <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_exclude=</code> to the working template. Here is <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:ERIC/sandbox" title="Template:ERIC/sandbox">ERIC/sandbox</a>}}</code> which uses <a href="/wiki/Module:Template_wrapper/sandbox" title="Module:Template wrapper/sandbox">Module:template wrapper/sandbox</a> with <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_pass-all=yes</code> to wrap <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Catalog_lookup_link/sandbox" title="Template:Catalog lookup link/sandbox">Catalog_lookup_link/sandbox</a>}}</code> which invokes <a href="/wiki/Module:Catalog_lookup_link/sandbox" title="Module:Catalog lookup link/sandbox">Module:Catalog_lookup_link/sandbox</a>: </p> <dl><dd><code>{{ERIC/sandbox|ED046562|EJ671671|url-access=free}}</code> <dl><dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238446127">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><a href="/wiki/Education_Resources_Information_Center" title="Education Resources Information Center">ERIC</a> <span class="id-lock-free" title="Freely accessible"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED046562">ED046562</a></span>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ671671">EJ671671</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Here is <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:EFloras/sandbox2" title="Template:EFloras/sandbox2">EFloras/sandbox2</a>}}</code> which uses <a href="/wiki/Module:Template_wrapper/sandbox" title="Module:Template wrapper/sandbox">Module:template wrapper/sandbox</a> without <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_pass-all=</code> to wrap <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a>}}</code> which invokes <a href="/wiki/Module:Citation/CS1" title="Module:Citation/CS1">Module:Citation/CS1</a>. Positional parameters are used by <span class="nowrap"><code>{{EFloras}}</code></span> and not passed to <span class="nowrap"><code>{{cite web}}</code></span>: </p> <dl><dd><code>{{EFloras/sandbox2|1|233501007|Quercus alba |volume=3 |first=Kevin C. |last=Nixon | access-date = 18 August 2018 }}</code> <dl><dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFNixon1997" class="citation cs1">Nixon, Kevin C. (1997). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=233501007">"<i>Quercus alba</i>"</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.efloras.org/flora_page.aspx?flora_id=1"><i>Flora of North America North of Mexico (FNA)</i></a>. Vol. 3. New York and Oxford<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">18 August</span> 2018</span> – via <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://efloras.org">eFloras.org</a>, <a href="/wiki/Missouri_Botanical_Garden" title="Missouri Botanical Garden">Missouri Botanical Garden</a>, St. Louis, MO & <a href="/wiki/Harvard_University_Herbaria" title="Harvard University Herbaria">Harvard University Herbaria</a>, Cambridge, MA.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=%3Ci%3EQuercus+alba%3C%2Fi%3E&rft.btitle=Flora+of+North+America+North+of+Mexico+%28FNA%29&rft.place=New+York+and+Oxford&rft.date=1997&rft.aulast=Nixon&rft.aufirst=Kevin+C.&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D1%26taxon_id%3D233501007&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AModule+talk%3ATemplate+wrapper" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Citation" title="Template:Citation">citation</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">External link in <code class="cs1-code"><code class="cs1-code">|via=</code></code> (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#param_has_ext_link" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span>; <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Unknown parameter <code class="cs1-code">|editors=</code> ignored (<code class="cs1-code">|editor=</code> suggested) (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#parameter_ignored_suggest" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span><span class="cs1-maint citation-comment">CS1 maint: location missing publisher (<a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_location_missing_publisher" title="Category:CS1 maint: location missing publisher">link</a>)</span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Compare the live <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Efloras" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Efloras">Efloras</a>}}</code>: </p> <dl><dd><code>{{EFloras|1|233501007|Quercus alba |volume=3 |first=Kevin C. |last=Nixon | access-date = 18 August 2018 }}</code> <dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFNixon1997" class="citation cs1">Nixon, Kevin C. (1997). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=233501007">"<i>Quercus alba</i>"</a>. In Flora of North America Editorial Committee (ed.). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.efloras.org/flora_page.aspx?flora_id=1"><i>Flora of North America North of Mexico (FNA)</i></a>. Vol. 3. New York and Oxford: Oxford University Press<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">18 August</span> 2018</span> – via eFloras.org, <a href="/wiki/Missouri_Botanical_Garden" title="Missouri Botanical Garden">Missouri Botanical Garden</a>, St. Louis, MO & <a href="/wiki/Harvard_University_Herbaria" title="Harvard University Herbaria">Harvard University Herbaria</a>, Cambridge, MA.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=%3Ci%3EQuercus+alba%3C%2Fi%3E&rft.btitle=Flora+of+North+America+North+of+Mexico+%28FNA%29&rft.place=New+York+and+Oxford&rft.pub=Oxford+University+Press&rft.date=1997&rft.aulast=Nixon&rft.aufirst=Kevin+C.&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D1%26taxon_id%3D233501007&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AModule+talk%3ATemplate+wrapper" class="Z3988"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>What have I missed? </p><p>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z-using_positional_parameters" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 19 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z-using_positional_parameters"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z-using_positional_parameters"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JJMC89-2018-08-19T18:11:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z"></span>Unless I'm misunderstanding something, the below looks like it will add all the positional <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">pframe_args</code> regardless of <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_exclude=</code> or <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">unset</code>. <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-lua mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span> <span class="kr">if</span> <span class="n">pass_all</span> <span class="kr">then</span> <span class="kr">for</span> <span class="n">i</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">v</span> <span class="kr">in</span> <span class="nb">ipairs</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="n">pframe_args</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="kr">do</span> <span class="n">add_parameter</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="n">i</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">v</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">args</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">list</span><span class="p">);</span> <span class="kr">end</span> <span class="kr">end</span> </pre></div> I think the below would do what you intend. <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-lua mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="kd">local</span> <span class="kr">function</span> <span class="nf">pframe_args_get</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="n">pframe_args</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">args</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">exclude</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">pass_all</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">list</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="kr">for</span> <span class="n">k</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">v</span> <span class="kr">in</span> <span class="nb">pairs</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="n">pframe_args</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="kr">do</span> <span class="kr">if</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="n">pass_all</span> <span class="ow">or</span> <span class="nb">type</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="n">k</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="o">~=</span> <span class="s1">'number'</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="ow">and</span> <span class="ow">not</span> <span class="n">is_in_table</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="n">exclude</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">k</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="kr">then</span> <span class="c1">-- do not pass along excluded parameters</span> <span class="kr">if</span> <span class="n">v</span> <span class="ow">and</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="s1">''</span> <span class="o">~=</span> <span class="n">v</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="kr">then</span> <span class="c1">-- pass along only those parameters that have assigned values</span> <span class="kr">if</span> <span class="s1">'unset'</span> <span class="o">==</span> <span class="n">v</span><span class="p">:</span><span class="n">lower</span><span class="p">()</span> <span class="kr">then</span> <span class="c1">-- special keyword to unset 'default' parameters set in the wrapper template</span> <span class="n">v</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="s1">''</span><span class="p">;</span> <span class="c1">-- unset the value in the args table</span> <span class="kr">end</span> <span class="n">add_parameter</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="n">k</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">v</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">args</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">list</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="c1">-- add all other parameters to args in the style dictated by list</span> <span class="kr">end</span> <span class="kr">end</span> <span class="kr">end</span> <span class="kr">end</span> </pre></div> It might make more sense to use <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_pass_positional=</code> instead of <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_pass-all=</code> since <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_exclude=</code> still applies. <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">frame_args_get</code> should also be adjusted so that the new parameter isn't passed. — <a href="/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-JJMC89-2018-08-19T18:11:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 19 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JJMC89-2018-08-19T18:11:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JJMC89-2018-08-19T18:11:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T11:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T21:29:00.000Z-JJMC89-2018-08-19T18:11:00.000Z"></span>I did not intend that positional parameters should be excludable. Perhaps they could be but how is that properly handled? If we pass <code>{{{1}}}</code> and exclude <code>{{{2}}}</code> what do we do with <code>{{{3}}}</code> et seq.? Does <code>{{{3}}}</code> become the new <code>{{{2}}}</code>? I just didn't want to venture along that cow track until there is a demonstrated need to go there.</dd></dl></dd> <dd> <dl><dd>I didn't consider the possibility of a positional parameter having the <code>unset</code> value. I'll fix that.</dd></dl></dd> <dd> <dl><dd>Using <code>ipairs()</code> as I did ensures that empty positional parameters are passed along to the working template. In the <code>pairs()</code> version, the <code>if v and ('' ~= v) then</code> prevents empty positional parameters from being added to the <code>args</code> table.</dd></dl></dd> <dd> <dl><dd>I overlooked adding <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_pass-all=</code> to <code>frame_args_get()</code>; I'll do that. As you can see I was not very successful in finding a good parameter name. <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_pass-all=</code> is the shortest I could come up with and was, I felt, marginally better than <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_pass-positional=</code> which I felt implied 'only' but was shorter than <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_include-positional=</code> which was the best in terms of describing what it does at the expense of length; I was hoping for a single word but was unable to find one that is suitable. I'll change to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_include-positional=</code>.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T21:29:00.000Z-JJMC89-2018-08-19T18:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 19 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T21:29:00.000Z-JJMC89-2018-08-19T18:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T21:29:00.000Z-JJMC89-2018-08-19T18:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JJMC89-2018-08-19T21:53:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T21:29:00.000Z"></span>I misunderstood your comment in the module then. Let's not let positional parameters be excluded with <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_include-positional=</code>; I agree it would be difficult to properly handle. I made <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/855651041" title="Special:Diff/855651041">this edit</a>. I think the sandbox looks good now. — <a href="/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-JJMC89-2018-08-19T21:53:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T21:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 19 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JJMC89-2018-08-19T21:53:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T21:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JJMC89-2018-08-19T21:53:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T21:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T22:36:00.000Z-JJMC89-2018-08-19T21:53:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, we edit conflicted over that. I've updated the live module.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T22:36:00.000Z-JJMC89-2018-08-19T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 19 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T22:36:00.000Z-JJMC89-2018-08-19T21:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T22:36:00.000Z-JJMC89-2018-08-19T21:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rjjiii-20230712023900-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T22:36:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a>:</span> Potentially a dumb question, but is there a way to pass all but one positional parameter? I tried a bunch of ways to exclude positional parameter "1" in <a href="/wiki/Template:Multiref2/sandbox" title="Template:Multiref2/sandbox">Template:Multiref2/sandbox</a> before reading this discussion. If there's not a clean solution, I'll leave it as is. <a href="/wiki/User:Rjjiii" title="User:Rjjiii">Rjjiii</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rjjiii" title="User talk:Rjjiii">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Rjjiii-20230712023900-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T22:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:39, 12 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rjjiii-20230712023900-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T22:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rjjiii-20230712023900-Trappist_the_monk-2018-08-19T22:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700-Rjjiii-20230712023900"></span>I don't think so. But why would you want to? Positional parameters have meaning so suppressing <code>{{{1}}}</code> in the call to the working template 'bumps' the subsequent positional parameters: wrapper template <code>{{{2}}}</code> becomes working template <code>{{{1}}}</code> and so on. For <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Multiref2" title="Template:Multiref2">multiref2</a>}}</code> that doesn't much matter but for other templates it can make a hash of things.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>I think that you will need to make a very strong case for a modification to this module.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700-Rjjiii-20230712023900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 12 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700-Rjjiii-20230712023900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700-Rjjiii-20230712023900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rjjiii-20230712192000-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700"></span>Gotcha, I'm not asking for a modification, just making sure that I understand how the module works. <a href="/wiki/User:Rjjiii" title="User:Rjjiii">Rjjiii</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rjjiii" title="User talk:Rjjiii">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Rjjiii-20230712192000-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 12 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rjjiii-20230712192000-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rjjiii-20230712192000-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rjjiii-20230716064800-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700"></span>An additional follow-up: On second thought, it made more sense to style the first positional reference rather than filter it out. Disregard my confusion above. <a href="/wiki/User:Rjjiii" title="User:Rjjiii">Rjjiii</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rjjiii" title="User talk:Rjjiii">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Rjjiii-20230716064800-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:48, 16 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rjjiii-20230716064800-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rjjiii-20230716064800-Trappist_the_monk-20230712130700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="support_for_aliasing_and_parameter_name_reuse;" data-mw-thread-id="h-support_for_aliasing_and_parameter_name_reuse;-2018-11-17T13:46:00.000Z"><span id="support_for_aliasing_and_parameter_name_reuse.3B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-support_for_aliasing_and_parameter_name_reuse;-2018-11-17T13:46:00.000Z"></span>support for aliasing and parameter name reuse;<span data-mw-comment-end="h-support_for_aliasing_and_parameter_name_reuse;-2018-11-17T13:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Module_talk:Template_wrapper&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: support for aliasing and parameter name reuse;"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-11-17T13:46:00.000Z-support_for_aliasing_and_parameter_name_reuse;"></span>I have added code so that the wrapper templates can support parameter aliasing and same-name reuse. Also updated the documentation. Existing applications should not notice the change. But, famous last words, those, report anomalies here. </p><p>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-11-17T13:46:00.000Z-support_for_aliasing_and_parameter_name_reuse;" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-11-17T13:46:00.000Z-support_for_aliasing_and_parameter_name_reuse;"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-2018-11-17T13:46:00.000Z-support_for_aliasing_and_parameter_name_reuse;"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="substall" data-mw-thread-id="h-substall-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-substall-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z"></span>_substall<span data-mw-comment-end="h-substall-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Module_talk:Template_wrapper&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: _substall"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z-substall"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">Pppery</a>: If you are going to make changes to this module, please document those changes both in the code and in the doc page. </p><p>Please explain this: </p> <dl><dd><div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-lua mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="kr">if</span> <span class="n">mw</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="n">isSubsting</span><span class="p">()</span> <span class="ow">and</span> <span class="n">frame</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="n">args</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="n">_substall</span> <span class="o">==</span> <span class="s2">"no"</span> <span class="kr">then</span> <span class="kr">return</span> <span class="nb">require</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="s2">"Module:Template invocation"</span><span class="p">).</span><span class="n">invocation</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="n">template</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">args</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="kr">else</span> <span class="kr">return</span> <span class="n">frame</span><span class="p">:</span><span class="n">expandTemplate</span> <span class="p">{</span><span class="n">title</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="n">template</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">args</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="n">args</span><span class="p">};</span> <span class="c1">-- render the working template</span> <span class="kr">end</span> </pre></div></dd></dl> <p>How is the one different from the other? </p><p>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z-substall" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 19 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z-substall"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z-substall"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-2019-02-19T19:14:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z"></span>One of those actually transcludes the template, whereas the other one returns a wikitext version of the template. The purpose of that edit was, as I explained in the edit summary, to make this module easier to use for substituted templates. To demonstrate this, support you have a template <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:X1" title="Template:X1">X1</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, which contains the code <code>{{#invoke:Template wrapper|wrap|_template=X2|xxx=yyy|_substall={{{_substall}}}|_exclude=_substall}}</code>. If <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|_substall=no</code> is specified, then substing <a href="/wiki/Template:X1" title="Template:X1">Template:X1</a> will produce a transclusion of <a href="/wiki/Template:X2" title="Template:X2">Template:X2</a>, as opposed to a substitution of <a href="/wiki/Template:X2" title="Template:X2">Template:X2</a> which is produced without the _substall param. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">{{3x|p}}ery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Pppery-2019-02-19T19:14:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-2019-02-19T19:14:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-2019-02-19T19:14:00.000Z-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-19T19:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-22T15:59:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-02-19T19:14:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">Pppery</a>: If you are going to make changes to this module, please document those changes both in the code and in the doc page.</dd> <dd>—<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_talk:Template_wrapper#c-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-22T15:59:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-02-19T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-22T15:59:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-02-19T19:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trappist_the_monk-2019-02-22T15:59:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-02-19T19:14:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20240208123200-Pppery-2019-02-19T19:14:00.000Z"></span>A substitute option would indeed be really useful. I see your edit summary when you reverted. 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