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data-mw-thread-id="h-Size_of_comic_industry-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Size_of_comic_industry-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z"></span>Size of comic industry<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Size_of_comic_industry-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Asterix_in_Belgium&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Size of comic industry"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Size_of_comic_industry-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z-Size_of_comic_industry"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Wakuran-2009-05-10T12:44:00.000Z-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z","timestamp":"2009-05-10T12:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Size_of_comic_industry-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z-Size_of_comic_industry"],"text":"Size of comic industry","linkableTitle":"Size of comic industry"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z-Size_of_comic_industry"></span>"On page 31 Thomson and Thompson, from the famous Belgian comic strip Tintin, make an appearance. This also references the fact that Belgium has the largest comics industry next to the United States." </p><p>This statement appears to say that the United States has the largest comic industry in the world and Belgium has the second largest. Is this true? The comic industry in Japan is pretty big. Wouldn't it be better to say simply that many important (French language) comics originate in Belgium. </p> <dl><dd>maybe: "largest producer of original comics in Europe" ? Japan's comic industry is massive (it's considered mainstream there so the manga sector alone is huge even before you include doijin (independent/underground titles))--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Invisifan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Invisifan (page does not exist)">Invisifan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asterix_in_Belgium#c-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z-Size_of_comic_industry" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z-Size_of_comic_industry"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z","author":"Invisifan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z-Size_of_comic_industry","replies":["c-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z-Size_of_comic_industry"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z"></span>I guess from a French viewpoint, Belgium is somewhat of a <a href="/wiki/Lilliput" class="mw-disambig" title="Lilliput">lilliput</a> country, although it did for some reason raise comics giants and innovators such as <a href="/wiki/Herg%C3%A9" title="Hergé">Hergé</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jij%C3%A9" title="Jijé">Jijé</a> and <a href="/wiki/Franquin" class="mw-redirect" title="Franquin">Franquin</a>. It'd appear that France mostly raised draughtsmen, until around the 60's and 70's where Pilote and Metal Hurlant led an innovative wave in France as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Wakuran" title="User:Wakuran">惑乱 Wakuran</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wakuran" title="User talk:Wakuran">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asterix_in_Belgium#c-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z","author":"Wakuran","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wakuran-2009-05-10T12:44:00.000Z-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u60d1\u4e71 Wakuran"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z-Invisifan-2006-09-05T12:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wakuran-2009-05-10T12:44:00.000Z-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, I read an interview recently where a Belgian comics expert claimed that France and Germany had too much cultural baggage to pioneer a trashy children's medium such as comics, and subsequently the rather small Belgium happened to be the leading European pioneer between the 30's and the 60's. (I'm not sure exactly where I found the interview, and it was in Danish, anyway.) Brussels celebrates 2009 as the "year of the comic strip", with a major tourism-directed venture of all sorts of comic-related events. <a href="/wiki/User:Wakuran" title="User:Wakuran">惑乱 Wakuran</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wakuran" title="User talk:Wakuran">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asterix_in_Belgium#c-Wakuran-2009-05-10T12:44:00.000Z-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 10 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wakuran-2009-05-10T12:44:00.000Z-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-10T12:44:00.000Z","author":"Wakuran","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wakuran-2009-05-10T12:44:00.000Z-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u60d1\u4e71 Wakuran"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wakuran-2009-05-10T12:44:00.000Z-Wakuran-2008-12-05T00:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg"],"text":"Fair use rationale for Image:Asterix in Belgium.jpg","linkableTitle":"Fair use rationale for Image:Asterix in Belgium.jpg"}--><h2 id="Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z"></span>Fair use rationale for Image:Asterix in Belgium.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Asterix_in_Belgium&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Fair use rationale for Image:Asterix in Belgium.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg","timestamp":"2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg"],"text":"Fair use rationale for Image:Asterix in Belgium.jpg","linkableTitle":"Fair use rationale for Image:Asterix in Belgium.jpg"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_important.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/70px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="70" height="58" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/105px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/140px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Asterix in Belgium.jpg (page does not exist)">Image:Asterix in Belgium.jpg</a></b> is being used on this article. 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Thank you. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:BetacommandBot" title="User:BetacommandBot">BetacommandBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BetacommandBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:BetacommandBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asterix_in_Belgium#c-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z","author":"BetacommandBot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BetacommandBot-2008-02-12T04:32:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_Image:Asterix_in_Belgium.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Goscinny's_writing-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z-Goscinny's_writing"],"text":"Goscinny's writing","linkableTitle":"Goscinny's writing"}--><h2 id="Goscinny's_writing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Goscinny's_writing-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z"><span id="Goscinny.27s_writing"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Goscinny's_writing-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z"></span>Goscinny's writing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Goscinny's_writing-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Asterix_in_Belgium&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Goscinny's writing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Goscinny's_writing-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z-Goscinny's_writing"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z-Goscinny's_writing","timestamp":"2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Goscinny's_writing-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z-Goscinny's_writing"],"text":"Goscinny's writing","linkableTitle":"Goscinny's writing"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z-Goscinny's_writing"></span>It says that Goscinny died when about two third of the comic was completed. In other words, the drawings were not finished, but what about the script? Had Goscinny completed the script, or was it Uderzo who took care of the rest? As far as I can see, the article doesn't mention anything about that. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.210.31.205" title="Special:Contributions/84.210.31.205">84.210.31.205</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:84.210.31.205&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:84.210.31.205 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asterix_in_Belgium#c-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z-Goscinny's_writing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z-Goscinny's_writing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z","author":"84.210.31.205","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z-Goscinny's_writing","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-84.210.31.205-2009-10-23T08:45:00.000Z-Goscinny's_writing"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐int.codfw.main‐7cc866bdbb‐nz56j Cached time: 20241207112909 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.015 seconds CPU time usage: 0.233 seconds Real time usage: 0.330 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 911/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 19396/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 32/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 12/100 Expensive parser function count: 10/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 16753/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.157/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1994467/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 266.308 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 100.00% 266.308 1 -total 37.60% 100.122 1 Template:WikiProject_Belgium 16.26% 43.302 1 Template:WikiProject_Comics 0.87% 2.304 1 Template:Importance_mask --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:3553706:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241207112909 and revision id 1199108943. 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