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href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_6" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 6">март - април 2009</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_7" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 7">април - мај 2009</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_8" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 8">мај - јули 2009</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_9" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 9">јули - август 2009</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_10" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 10">август - септември 2009</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_11" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 11">октомври 2009 - март 2010</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_12" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 12">март - април 2010</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_13" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 13">април - август 2010</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_14" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 14">август - декември 2010</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_15" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 15">декември 2010 - март 2011</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_16" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 16">март - јуни 2011</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_17" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 17">јуни - септември 2011</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_18" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 18">септември - ноември 2011</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_19" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 19">ноември 2011 - април 2012</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_20" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 20">април - август 2012</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_21" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 21">август - ноември 2012</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_22" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 22">ноември 2012 - април 2013</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_23" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 23">април 2013 - април 2015</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_24" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 24">јули 2015 - јули 2017</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_25" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 25">септември 2017 - ноември 2020</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0_26" title="Разговор со корисник:Kiril Simeonovski/Архива 26">ноември 2020 - март 2022</a></li> <li><a class="mw-selflink selflink">од март 2022</a></li></ul> </td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Autopatrol" data-mw-thread-id="h-Autopatrol-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Autopatrol-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z"></span>Autopatrol<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Autopatrol-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z-Autopatrol"></span>Hi Kiril how are you. Please could you consider granting me autopatrol flag on mk wiki, as I sometimes need it for working on pictures in articles. Thanks a lot! Regards --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:A.Savin" title="Корисник:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:A.Savin" title="Разговор со корисник:A.Savin">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-A.Savin-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z-Autopatrol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 28 март 2022 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z-Autopatrol"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z-Autopatrol"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-2022-03-28T15:26:00.000Z-A.Savin-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0:Yes_check.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span><span style="display:none">Ок</span> Done. Best regards.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-2022-03-28T15:26:00.000Z-A.Savin-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 28 март 2022 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-2022-03-28T15:26:00.000Z-A.Savin-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-2022-03-28T15:26:00.000Z-A.Savin-2022-03-28T14:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Мoлба" data-mw-thread-id="h-Мoлба-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z"><span id=".D0.9Co.D0.BB.D0.B1.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Мoлба-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Мoлба<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Мoлба-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z-Мoлба"></span>Здраво Кирил, </p><p>види ако може да се направи статија за акад. Љ. Коцарев на анг. Вики. </p><p>поздрав, <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Academician.NYAS" title="Корисник:Academician.NYAS">Academician.NYAS</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Academician.NYAS" title="Разговор со корисник:Academician.NYAS">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z-Мoлба" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:42, 3 април 2022 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z-Мoлба"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z-Мoлба"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-2022-04-04T11:36:00.000Z-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Academician.NYAS" title="Корисник:Academician.NYAS">Academician.NYAS</a>:</span> Здраво, како што можам да забележам, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Ljup%C4%8Do_Kocarev" class="extiw" title="w:en:Ljupčo Kocarev">статија</a> за академикот веќе има. Не знам на што конкретно мислите. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-2022-04-04T11:36:00.000Z-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:36, 4 април 2022 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-2022-04-04T11:36:00.000Z-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-2022-04-04T11:36:00.000Z-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-04T11:52:00.000Z-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Great! <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Academician.NYAS" title="Корисник:Academician.NYAS">Academician.NYAS</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Academician.NYAS" title="Разговор со корисник:Academician.NYAS">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-04T11:52:00.000Z-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-02T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 4 април 2022 (CEST)</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:178.148.119.189&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:178.148.119.189 (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-178.148.119.189-2022-04-04T16:15:00.000Z-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-04T11:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 4 април 2022 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-178.148.119.189-2022-04-04T16:15:00.000Z-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-04T11:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-178.148.119.189-2022-04-04T16:15:00.000Z-Academician.NYAS-2022-04-04T11:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-178.148.119.189-2022-04-04T20:31:00.000Z-178.148.119.189-2022-04-04T16:15:00.000Z"></span>Кирил, mоже ли некој на таа Вики (en.wikipedia.org) да уклони reverting anti-vandal bot или filter за "Igor Janev".<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8/178.148.119.189" title="Специјална:Придонеси/178.148.119.189">178.148.119.189</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:178.148.119.189&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:178.148.119.189 (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a 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id="Партизанска_споменица_од_1941_-_неразбирлив_текст_на_срамен_јазик" data-mw-thread-id="h-Партизанска_споменица_од_1941_-_неразбирлив_т-20221212021000"><span id=".D0.9F.D0.B0.D1.80.D1.82.D0.B8.D0.B7.D0.B0.D0.BD.D1.81.D0.BA.D0.B0_.D1.81.D0.BF.D0.BE.D0.BC.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B8.D1.86.D0.B0_.D0.BE.D0.B4_1941_-_.D0.BD.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B7.D0.B1.D0.B8.D1.80.D0.BB.D0.B8.D0.B2_.D1.82.D0.B5.D0.BA.D1.81.D1.82_.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D1.81.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.BC.D0.B5.D0.BD_.D1.98.D0.B0.D0.B7.D0.B8.D0.BA"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Партизанска_споменица_од_1941_-_неразбирлив_т-20221212021000"></span>Партизанска споменица од 1941 - неразбирлив текст на срамен јазик<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Партизанска_споменица_од_1941_-_неразбирлив_т-20221212021000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Јасмина_Шопова-20221212021000-Партизанска_споменица_од_1941_-_неразбирлив_т"></span>Добар ден, Кирил, како администратор на Википедија на македонски јазик Ве молам да го проверите текстот на страницата ставена во насловот на мојата порака. Тоа е базичен google превод на македонски од српски што едноставно не се разбира! Брука и срамота за нас и за нашата историја. Неколку примери: ПартизанскИОТ споменица БШЕ основана во 1941. година, со одлука на Национален комитет за ослободување на Југославија (НCOA), 14. септември 1944. за време на престојот на островот Вис. (НCOA - непостоечка кратенка; чиј престој - не се знае!) Комисијата потоа им нареди (ИМ НАРЕДИ!!!!???) на сите борци и водачи на Народната ослободителна армија на Југославија, учествувајќи во ова 1941. да ја примат Меморијалната награда од 1941. година, во знак на признание за нивното учество во борбата и лојалноста Национално-ослободително движење на Југославије. „Акт за партизански споменици од 1941 година", донесен ЈЕ 5. мајА 1946. И така натаму, нема птотреба да должам. Вакви текстови не би смееле да постојат на Википедија. Благодарам на вниманието, Јасмина <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%88%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A8%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Корисник:Јасмина Шопова">Јасмина Шопова</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%88%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A8%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Разговор со корисник:Јасмина Шопова">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Јасмина_Шопова-20221212021000-Партизанска_споменица_од_1941_-_неразбирлив_т" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 12 декември 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Јасмина_Шопова-20221212021000-Партизанска_споменица_од_1941_-_неразбирлив_т"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Јасмина_Шопова-20221212021000-Партизанска_споменица_од_1941_-_неразбирлив_т"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bloody_Vandalism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bloody_Vandalism"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bloody_Vandalism"></span>Bloody Vandalism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bloody_Vandalism"></span></h2></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski&diff=prev&oldid=5054079#Vandalism">https://mk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski&diff=prev&oldid=5054079#Vandalism</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Маќедонија" data-mw-thread-id="h-Маќедонија-20230109183700"><span id=".D0.9C.D0.B0.D1.9C.D0.B5.D0.B4.D0.BE.D0.BD.D0.B8.D1.98.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Маќедонија-20230109183700"></span>Маќедонија<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Маќедонија-20230109183700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Savasampion-20230109183700-Маќедонија"></span>Дали знаете дека <a href="/wiki/%D0%83%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%93%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8" title="Ѓорѓија Пулевски">Ѓорѓија Пулевски</a> напишал македонска историја наречена <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%9C%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%88%D1%82%D0%B0_%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0" title="Славјанско-маќедонска општа историја">Славјанско-маќедонска општа историја</a>? <a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Savasampion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Корисник:Savasampion (страницата не постои)">Savasampion</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Savasampion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:Savasampion (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Savasampion-20230109183700-Маќедонија" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 9 јануари 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Savasampion-20230109183700-Маќедонија"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Savasampion-20230109183700-Маќедонија"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230109185600-Savasampion-20230109183700"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Savasampion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Корисник:Savasampion (страницата не постои)">Savasampion</a>:</span> Да, и тоа го пишува во статијата. Но, Википедија на македонски јазик е напишана на стандардниот јазик и во статиите треба да се користат исклучиво зборови коишто се користат во него. Пренасочувања може да бидат и зборови коишто денес се користат во другите говори, но јас лично сметам дека не треба да бидат зборови коишто се користеле во минатото и згора на тоа се пишувале поинаку. Поимот „Маќедонија“ се среќава во текстови на <a href="/wiki/%D0%83%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%93%D0%B8_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8" title="Ѓорѓи Македонски">Ѓорѓи Македонски</a> уште пред <a href="/wiki/%D0%83%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%93%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8" title="Ѓорѓија Пулевски">Ѓорѓија Пулевски</a>, но во тој период се пишувало „Макьедония“ затоа што тоа е пред донесувањето на македонската азбука и кодификацијата на македонскиот литературен јазик. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230109185600-Savasampion-20230109183700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:56, 9 јануари 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230109185600-Savasampion-20230109183700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230109185600-Savasampion-20230109183700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Хемиски_соединенија" data-mw-thread-id="h-Хемиски_соединенија-20230213140000"><span id=".D0.A5.D0.B5.D0.BC.D0.B8.D1.81.D0.BA.D0.B8_.D1.81.D0.BE.D0.B5.D0.B4.D0.B8.D0.BD.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B8.D1.98.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Хемиски_соединенија-20230213140000"></span>Хемиски соединенија<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Хемиски_соединенија-20230213140000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emgp31012207-20230213140000-Хемиски_соединенија"></span>Здраво, ме интересира околу напреварот за хемиски соединенија, додадов нова статија но како да ми покажи во табелата кај Напомена дека е нова статија? <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Корисник:Emgp31012207">Emgp31012207</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Разговор со корисник:Emgp31012207">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Emgp31012207-20230213140000-Хемиски_соединенија" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 13 февруари 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emgp31012207-20230213140000-Хемиски_соединенија"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emgp31012207-20230213140000-Хемиски_соединенија"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230213155500-Emgp31012207-20230213140000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Корисник:Emgp31012207">Emgp31012207</a>:</span> Здраво, напомената дека се работи за нова статија се внесува во последното поле од предлошката, односно веднаш пред знакот „}}“. Како пример може да погледнете <a class="external text" href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A3%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8/%D0%A5%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0/%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0/Bjankuloski06&action=edit">како тоа го прават</a> останатите учесници. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230213155500-Emgp31012207-20230213140000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 13 февруари 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230213155500-Emgp31012207-20230213140000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230213155500-Emgp31012207-20230213140000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emgp31012207-20230214070700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230213155500"></span>Ви благодарам, ја направив напомената. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Корисник:Emgp31012207">Emgp31012207</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Разговор со корисник:Emgp31012207">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Emgp31012207-20230214070700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230213155500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:07, 14 февруари 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emgp31012207-20230214070700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230213155500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emgp31012207-20230214070700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230213155500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emgp31012207-20230310123900-Emgp31012207-20230214070700"></span>Почитувани, Учествував во натпреварот за пишување статии за хемиски соединенија и според долунаведеното упатство (не ми е јасно каде може да наведеме за тоа од каде би сакале ваучер доколку освоиме некоја од наградите):</dd> <dd>Награди</dd> <dd>Наградите за овој натпревар се предвидени да бидат вредносни купони за книги и техничка стока. Наградите ќе бидат купени по завршувањето на уредувачкиот натпревар во вид на ваучери од продавница со седиште во Македонија. Доколку сакате ваучер од специфична продавница, наведете по завршувањето или за време на траењето на натпреварот. Одбраните корисници на наградите треба да си ги подигнат наградите во просториите на Споделено знаење, во зградата на Сивус Бизнис Инкубатор во Скопје.</dd> <dd>доколку треба да наведам еве во поракава, би сакала ваучерот да биде од Anhoch, доколку има можност. Во спротивно, ве молам за упатство каде може да се наведе оваа информација. Поздрав и секое добро. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Корисник:Emgp31012207">Emgp31012207</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Разговор со корисник:Emgp31012207">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Emgp31012207-20230310123900-Emgp31012207-20230214070700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 10 март 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emgp31012207-20230310123900-Emgp31012207-20230214070700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emgp31012207-20230310123900-Emgp31012207-20230214070700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230310151500-Emgp31012207-20230310123900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Корисник:Emgp31012207">Emgp31012207</a>:</span> Здраво, добитниците на наградите ќе бидат контактирани од страна на организаторите по објавување на резултатите. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230310151500-Emgp31012207-20230310123900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 10 март 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230310151500-Emgp31012207-20230310123900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230310151500-Emgp31012207-20230310123900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230413134700-Хемиски_соединенија"></span>Здраво, ме интересира зошто статијата за Циклохексан има 0 поени, дали тоа е минимумот или е некоја грешка во оценувањето? </p> <dl><dd>Здраво. Статијата е оценета со 0 затоа што во историјата на преработките не може да се најдат уредувања од корисникот којшто ја има пријавено во натпреварот. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230413134700-Хемиски_соединенија" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 13 април 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230413134700-Хемиски_соединенија"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230413134700-Хемиски_соединенија"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emgp31012207-20230616062500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230413134700"></span>Здраво, кога може да се подигнат ваучерите? <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Корисник:Emgp31012207">Emgp31012207</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Emgp31012207" title="Разговор со корисник:Emgp31012207">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Emgp31012207-20230616062500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230413134700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:25, 16 јуни 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emgp31012207-20230616062500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230413134700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emgp31012207-20230616062500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230413134700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translation_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translation_request-20230606055700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translation_request-20230606055700"></span>Translation request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translation_request-20230606055700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Caro_de_Segeda-20230606055700-Translation_request"></span>Hi. Could you please translate this to Macedonian? </p> <div class="poem"> <p>Lingua Franca Nova (“Elefen”) is a language designed to be particularly simple, consistent, and easy to learn for international communications. It has a number of positive qualities:<br/> </p> <ul><li>1. It has a limited number of phonemes. It sounds similar to Italian or Spanish.<br/></li> <li>2. It is phonetically spelled. No child should have to spend years learning irregularities.<br/></li> <li>3. It has a completely regular grammar, similar to the world’s creoles.<br/></li> <li>4. It has a limited and completely regular set of productive affixes for routine word derivation.<br/></li> <li>5. It has well-defined rules for word order, in keeping with many major languages.<br/></li> <li>6. Its vocabulary is strongly rooted in modern Romance languages. These languages are themselves widespread and influential, plus they have contributed the major part of English vocabulary<br/></li> <li>7. It is designed to be naturally accepting of Latin and Greek technical neologisms, the de facto “world standard”.<br/></li> <li>8. It is designed to seem relatively “natural” to those who are familiar with Romance languages, without being any more difficult for others to learn.<br/></li> <li>We hope you like Elefen!</li></ul> </div> <p>Thanks for your help. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Caro_de_Segeda" title="Корисник:Caro de Segeda">Caro de Segeda</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Caro_de_Segeda&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:Caro de Segeda (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Caro_de_Segeda-20230606055700-Translation_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 6 јуни 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Caro_de_Segeda-20230606055700-Translation_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Caro_de_Segeda-20230606055700-Translation_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230606094700-Caro_de_Segeda-20230606055700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Caro_de_Segeda" title="Корисник:Caro de Segeda">Caro de Segeda</a>:</span> Hi. The translated text is given in turn: <dl><dd>Лингва франка нова („Елефен“) е јазик којшто е осмислен да биде едноставен, доследен и лесен за учење заради употреба во меѓународното општење. Јазикот има повеќе предности: <ul><li>1. Има ограничен број на фонеми. Звучи слично на италијански и шпански.</li> <li>2. Фонетички се срича. Ниедно дете нема да треба да помине години за да ги изучи отстапувањата од правилата.</li> <li>3. Граматиката во целост се заснова на правила, што е слично со креолските јазици.</li> <li>4. Има ограничен број на афикси коишто служат за изведување зборови според одредени правила.</li> <li>5. Има добро дефинирани правила за редоследот на зборовите, што е својство на многу од големите јазици.</li> <li>6. Неговиот речник во голема мера се заснова на современите романски јазици. Овие јазици се широкораспространети и влијателни, а исто така имаат голем придонес кон англискиот речник.</li> <li>7. Осмислен е природно да ги прифаќа латинските и грчки технички неологизми, што всушност е „светски стандард“.</li> <li>8. Осмислен е за да изгледа релативно „природно“ за оние коишто се запознаени со романските јазици без да им биде потежок за учење на останатите.</li> <li>Се надеваме дека Елефен ви се допаѓа.</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd>Best regards.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230606094700-Caro_de_Segeda-20230606055700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 6 јуни 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230606094700-Caro_de_Segeda-20230606055700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230606094700-Caro_de_Segeda-20230606055700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Caro_de_Segeda-20230607063300-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230606094700"></span>Thank you so much for your help. I have created <a href="/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D1%84%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Лингва франка нова">the article</a>. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Caro_de_Segeda" title="Корисник:Caro de Segeda">Caro de Segeda</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Caro_de_Segeda&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:Caro de Segeda (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Caro_de_Segeda-20230607063300-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230606094700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:33, 7 јуни 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Caro_de_Segeda-20230607063300-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230606094700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Caro_de_Segeda-20230607063300-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230606094700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Need_your_input_on_a_policy_impacting_gadgets_and_UserJS" data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_your_input_on_a_policy_impacting_gadgets_and_UserJS-20230710120800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Need_your_input_on_a_policy_impacting_gadgets_and_UserJS-20230710120800"></span>Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Need_your_input_on_a_policy_impacting_gadgets_and_UserJS-20230710120800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samuel_(WMF)-20230710120800-Need_your_input_on_a_policy_impacting_gadgets_and_UserJS"></span>Dear interface administrator, </p><p>This is Samuel from the Security team and I hope my message finds you well. </p><p>There is an <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Third-party_resources_policy" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Third-party resources policy">ongoing discussion</a> on a proposed policy governing the use of external resources in gadgets and UserJS. The proposed <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Third-party_resources_policy" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Third-party resources policy">Third-party resources policy</a> aims at making the UserJS and Gadgets landscape a bit safer by encouraging best practices around external resources. After an initial non-public conversation with a small number of interface admins and staff, we've launched a much larger, public consultation to get a wider pool of feedback for improving the policy proposal. Based on the ideas received so far, the proposed policy now includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, best practices for gadgets and UserJS developers, and exemptions requirements such as code transparency and inspectability. </p><p>As an interface administrator, your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Third-party_resources_policy" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Third-party resources policy">policy talk page</a>. </p> Have a great day!</div> <p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Samuel_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:Samuel (WMF)">Samuel (WMF)</a>, on behalf of the Foundation's Security team</bdi> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Samuel_(WMF)-20230710120800-Need_your_input_on_a_policy_impacting_gadgets_and_UserJS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 10 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samuel_(WMF)-20230710120800-Need_your_input_on_a_policy_impacting_gadgets_and_UserJS"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samuel_(WMF)-20230710120800-Need_your_input_on_a_policy_impacting_gadgets_and_UserJS"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Моля_за_помощ" data-mw-thread-id="h-Моля_за_помощ-20230710164200"><span id=".D0.9C.D0.BE.D0.BB.D1.8F_.D0.B7.D0.B0_.D0.BF.D0.BE.D0.BC.D0.BE.D1.89"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Моля_за_помощ-20230710164200"></span>Моля за помощ<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Моля_за_помощ-20230710164200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Пакко-20230710164200-Моля_за_помощ"></span>Здравей, от няклко дни гледам, корисникот Gurther върши поразии. Беше направил вандалска редакция на статията за българския език, и редактира вандалски след мен страниците, които създавам, като трие инфорамция провокативно и целенасочено. Моля виж последните му редакции на статиите за Разград, област Разград и село Самоил. Махнал е тенденциозно надписите на български в скобите и е сложил турски такива!!! Такова инфантино и провокативно поведение не мисля че отоваря на стандартите на общността! Моля, за съдействие! Поздрави! <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Корисник:Пакко">Пламенъ Цвѣтковъ</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Разговор со корисник:Пакко">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Пакко-20230710164200-Моля_за_помощ" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 10 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Пакко-20230710164200-Моля_за_помощ"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Пакко-20230710164200-Моля_за_помощ"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230710174000-Пакко-20230710164200"></span>Сите уредувања на корисникот се вратени и на неговата страница за разговор му се укажани причините. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230710174000-Пакко-20230710164200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 10 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230710174000-Пакко-20230710164200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230710174000-Пакко-20230710164200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Пакко-20230710174900-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230710174000"></span>Благодарам! <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Корисник:Пакко">Пламенъ Цвѣтковъ</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Разговор со корисник:Пакко">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Пакко-20230710174900-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230710174000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 10 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Пакко-20230710174900-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230710174000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Пакко-20230710174900-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230710174000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gurther-20230716203700-Моля_за_помощ"></span>Здравей отново, моля въдворете този <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Gurther" title="Корисник:Gurther">корисник :Gurther</a>. Моля виж статията ми за писателя <a href="/wiki/%D0%A7%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80" title="Чудомир">Чудомир</a>, за <a href="/wiki/%D0%89%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Љубка Рондова">Љубка Рондова</a>, за <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%97%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Станка Златева">Станка Златева</a>. Виж статията за <a href="/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="Одрин">Одрин</a>. Същият този потребител трие вандалски определението "български" и го замества с "од Бугария" с претенцията за някаква неутралност! Значи на всички уикипроекти на други езици Станка Златева е българска спортиска, само тук е "спортиска од Бугария" Да не говорим, че редакцията му в Одрин е изтрил само опредлението "български" но има "османски" сутан, "византийски" духовник, "грчки" търговец и тн. Този води някакви редакторски войни, които губят само време, а не допринасят с нищо за проекта. Благодаря! </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Здраво Пакко, мојте придонеси не се вандализам, јас пробам да ги направам статиите повеќе неутрални, некој од овие ликови не се бугари, како пример Љубка Рондова, таа е бегалка од грчката граѓанска војна, тие бегалци се претежно македонци, и заради тоа наместо да ја обележиме како Бугарка или Македонка, одлучивме за неутрален компромизе каде што ги обележуваме со префиксот „од Бугарија“, така исто е со другите, ве молам прекинете со празните акузаци и ве молам пишувајте во македонски а не во бугарскиот литературен норм, ви благодарам. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Gurther" title="Корисник:Gurther">Gurther</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Gurther" title="Разговор со корисник:Gurther">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Gurther-20230716203700-Моля_за_помощ" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 16 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gurther-20230716203700-Моля_за_помощ"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gurther-20230716203700-Моля_за_помощ"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718181400-Моля_за_помощ"></span>Здрасти, Gurther! Кой си ти та ще определяш каква се е чувствала Любка Рондова, или като каква се чувства Станка Златева? И тя ли е родена "во Македония"? Какъв компромис, кой успорва че Чудомир не е български писател?? Това не е никаква неутралност, а е някаква имагинерна твоя лична перцепция. Очаквам намесата на администратор! Kiril Simeonovski? </p> <dl><dd>Семејството на баба ми има пребегано од Серско најпрвин во Пиринска Македонија, а потоа во Вардарска Македонија и сите роднини денес се сметаат за Македонци. Но, имаме подалечни роднини кои од Пиринска Македонија се имаат преселено во Софија и денес се сметаат за Бугари. Ова не е толку важно колку што поентата ми е дека самосознанието на пребеганото население од Егејска Македонија главно е определено од тоа каде конечно се населило. Јас лично мислам дека „од Бугарија“ е неправилно затоа што во воведната реченица се користи изведена придавка за националноста на личноста (исклучок се само некои личности коишто имаат повеќе националности). <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Gurther" title="Корисник:Gurther">Gurther</a>:</span>, дали може да ми ја посочите дискусијата во којашто е договорено дека вака треба да се постапува во статиите за децата бегалци од Граѓанската војна во Грција? Зошто промената се врши и во статии за бугарски пејачки коишто не се родени во географската област Македонија (пр. <a href="/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%99%D0%B0_%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0" title="Ваља Балканска">Ваља Балканска</a>, <a href="/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0" title="Галена">Галена</a> и <a href="/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0" title="Анелија">Анелија</a>)? Благодарам.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718181400-Моля_за_помощ" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 18 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718181400-Моля_за_помощ"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718181400-Моля_за_помощ"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gurther-20230718210000-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718181400"></span>Kiril Simeonovski</a>, нема разговор за таков случај но ако посакувате можеме да отвориме дискусија за такво нешто, причината некој се обележани како „од Бугарија“ наместо „бугарски/бугарска“ е бидејќи идентитетот на овие луѓе се декларирал како Бугари но по корен не се, и наместо да ги обележуваме како бугари или македонци или бугаро македонци или македонци бугари, најдобриот компромиз е „од Бугарија“ не гледам зошто тоа е толку лошо, во википедија има голем прироритет кон неутралноста. Ако имате идеа за друг компромиз или план слободно споделете го. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Gurther" title="Корисник:Gurther">Gurther</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Gurther" title="Разговор со корисник:Gurther">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Gurther-20230718210000-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718181400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:00, 18 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gurther-20230718210000-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718181400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gurther-20230718210000-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718181400"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718213700-Gurther-20230718210000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Gurther" title="Корисник:Gurther">Gurther</a>:</span> Од Вашите придонеси можам да забележам дека се врши масовна систематска замена на придавката „бугарски“ со изразот „од Бугарија“ во статии за личности коишто немаат врска со Македонија. Тоа е погрешно од повеќе причини. Прво, уредувањата немаат никаква логика и не се поткрепени со докази. Второ, таквото уредување е спротивно на стилот за уредување биографски статии. Трето, за такво масовно менување низ статии е неопходно одобрение од страна на пошироката заедница. Она коешто го имате направено во изминатите неколку денови отвора голема работа затоа што сите тие уредувања треба да бидат вратени. Не знам која е причината за ваквото Ваше однесување, но ова е нешто за коешто на некои јазични изданија на Википедија се добива блок на неопределено време. Јас нема да Ве блокирам толку долго и мислам дека добра казнена мерка ќе биде блок од еден месец. Тоа е доволно време за да го преиспитате Вашето однесување и да научите како функционира Википедија.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718213700-Gurther-20230718210000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:37, 18 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718213700-Gurther-20230718210000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718213700-Gurther-20230718210000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Пакко-20230718184700-Моля_за_помощ"></span>Всеки има право да се самоидентифицира както се чувства и НИКОЙ няма право по някакви си свои виждания да го определя вместо него, особено след смъртта на този човек!!! Кирил, благодаря, че ми сподели част от твоята семейна история, но хората са различни и трябва да уважаваме това! Любка Родова е българка и като такава трябва да фигурира в македонската версия на уикипедия! <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyFJW-bHc0E">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyFJW-bHc0E</a> Моля, спрете да "неутрализирате" по ваш вкус! Кирил, очаквам да върнеш редакциите на Gurther за споменатите статии, за да няма излишни "редакторски войни". Благодаря! <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Корисник:Пакко">Пламенъ Цвѣтковъ</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Разговор со корисник:Пакко">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Пакко-20230718184700-Моля_за_помощ" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 18 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Пакко-20230718184700-Моля_за_помощ"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Пакко-20230718184700-Моля_за_помощ"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718224100-Пакко-20230718184700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Корисник:Пакко">Пакко</a>:</span> Корисникот е блокиран на период од еден месец поради масовен систематски вандализам (штетата којашто ја има направено оправдува блок на подолг временски период, но да видиме дали ќе го преиспита однесувањето по истекот на блокот). Сите уредувања му се вратени. Останува уште да се вратат категориите. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718224100-Пакко-20230718184700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 19 јули 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718224100-Пакко-20230718184700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718224100-Пакко-20230718184700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Пакко-20230801185700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718224100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril</a>, благодаря за съдействието, поздрав! <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Корисник:Пакко">Пламенъ Цвѣтковъ</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Разговор со корисник:Пакко">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Пакко-20230801185700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718224100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 1 август 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Пакко-20230801185700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718224100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Пакко-20230801185700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20230718224100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Оценка_на_статија" data-mw-thread-id="h-Оценка_на_статија-20231130214200"><span id=".D0.9E.D1.86.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.BA.D0.B0_.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D1.81.D1.82.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.B8.D1.98.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Оценка_на_статија-20231130214200"></span>Оценка на статија<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Оценка_на_статија-20231130214200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-77.29.211.116-20231130214200-Оценка_на_статија"></span>Здраво Кирил, </p><p>Дали може да се оцени ОБСЕ се додадени информации за историјата на оваа организација </p><p>Ти благодарам многу <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8/77.29.211.116" title="Специјална:Придонеси/77.29.211.116">77.29.211.116</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:77.29.211.116&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:77.29.211.116 (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-77.29.211.116-20231130214200-Оценка_на_статија" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 30 ноември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-77.29.211.116-20231130214200-Оценка_на_статија"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-77.29.211.116-20231130214200-Оценка_на_статија"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231130221200-77.29.211.116-20231130214200"></span>Дополнувањето е прифатено.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231130221200-77.29.211.116-20231130214200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 30 ноември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231130221200-77.29.211.116-20231130214200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231130221200-77.29.211.116-20231130214200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-77.29.211.116-20231130221400-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231130221200"></span>Ти благодарам многу @<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8/77.29.211.116" title="Специјална:Придонеси/77.29.211.116">77.29.211.116</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:77.29.211.116&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:77.29.211.116 (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-77.29.211.116-20231130221400-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231130221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 30 ноември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-77.29.211.116-20231130221400-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231130221200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-77.29.211.116-20231130221400-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231130221200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Избришана_тема" data-mw-thread-id="h-Избришана_тема-20231211083200"><span id=".D0.98.D0.B7.D0.B1.D1.80.D0.B8.D1.88.D0.B0.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D1.82.D0.B5.D0.BC.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Избришана_тема-20231211083200"></span>Избришана тема<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Избришана_тема-20231211083200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NenoMacedon-20231211083200-Избришана_тема"></span>Здраво Кирил, </p><p>Зошто е избришана темата Гоце Ангелов? Се работи за татко ми и мислам дека треба да е видливо за други луѓе. Пред се затоа што сакам јас да дознаам повеќе за него. Исто така според мене е добро за младите да знаат за овој "ендемичен" тип на луѓе за кои вредносите како служење на својот народ, служење на својата земја, негување на спортски дух и сл. се поважни од секакво материјално богатство. </p><p>Благодарам однапред. <a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:NenoMacedon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Корисник:NenoMacedon (страницата не постои)">NenoMacedon</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:NenoMacedon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:NenoMacedon (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-NenoMacedon-20231211083200-Избришана_тема" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 11 декември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NenoMacedon-20231211083200-Избришана_тема"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NenoMacedon-20231211083200-Избришана_тема"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211085200-NenoMacedon-20231211083200"></span>Здраво, статијата беше избришана затоа што не беше наведен никаков извор како поткрепа на веродостојноста на содржината и којшто укажува зошто личноста е значајна за да има статија на Википедија на македонски јазик. Се обидов да најдам повеќе информации преку пребарување на поимот „Гоце Ангелов“ на Гугл и <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%86%D0%B5+%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2&rlz=1C1KNTJ_enMK1012MK1012&oq=%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%86%D0%B5+%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg8MgYIAhBFGDwyBggDEEUYPNIBCDI0NjNqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1">резултатот</a> којшто го добив воопшто не дава никакви информации за личноста за којашто беше напишана статијата. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211085200-NenoMacedon-20231211083200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:52, 11 декември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211085200-NenoMacedon-20231211083200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211085200-NenoMacedon-20231211083200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NenoMacedon-20231211090200-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211085200"></span>Во тој случај википедиа ќе има нова информација во однос на Гугл... <a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:NenoMacedon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Корисник:NenoMacedon (страницата не постои)">NenoMacedon</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:NenoMacedon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:NenoMacedon (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-NenoMacedon-20231211090200-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:02, 11 декември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NenoMacedon-20231211090200-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211085200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NenoMacedon-20231211090200-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211085200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211091200-NenoMacedon-20231211090200"></span>Википедија не создава нови извори, туку користи достапни информации на значајни теми (видете <a href="/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%97%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%98%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82" title="Википедија:Значајност">Википедија:Значајност</a>). Инаку, секој ќе можеше да си напише статија за себе или за било што и со тоа да создаде нов извор на Гугл. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211091200-NenoMacedon-20231211090200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:12, 11 декември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211091200-NenoMacedon-20231211090200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211091200-NenoMacedon-20231211090200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NenoMacedon-20231213131700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211091200"></span>Проверете сега ... Гоце Ангелов Капетан <a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:NenoMacedon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Корисник:NenoMacedon (страницата не постои)">NenoMacedon</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:NenoMacedon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:NenoMacedon (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-NenoMacedon-20231213131700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211091200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 13 декември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NenoMacedon-20231213131700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211091200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NenoMacedon-20231213131700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231211091200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231213175600-NenoMacedon-20231213131700"></span>Дали може да посочите независен извор којшто ја обработува биографијата на личноста (на пр. напис во медиум, монографија за АРМ, тематска интернет страница итн.)? Како пример за независен извор го наведувам следното дело:</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>Стојановски, Мирослав и Стојаноски, Борис (2017). „Воени генерали во Македонија (1943 - 2017)“, второ издание. Скопје. Клуб на генерали на Република Македонија. <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80/9786086595524" class="internal mw-magiclink-isbn">ISBN 978-608-65955-2-4</a>.</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231213175600-NenoMacedon-20231213131700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 13 декември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231213175600-NenoMacedon-20231213131700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231213175600-NenoMacedon-20231213131700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-212.110.94.226-20231216094500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231213175600"></span>Освен наведениот линк кој што е од архив на мтв немам сега за сега.</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFF9bfgDHas&feature=youtu.be">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFF9bfgDHas&feature=youtu.be</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8/212.110.94.226" title="Специјална:Придонеси/212.110.94.226">212.110.94.226</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:212.110.94.226&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:212.110.94.226 (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-212.110.94.226-20231216094500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231213175600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:45, 16 декември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-212.110.94.226-20231216094500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231213175600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-212.110.94.226-20231216094500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231213175600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-212.110.71.17-20231228161300-212.110.94.226-20231216094500"></span>Не менува ова нешто ? <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8/212.110.71.17" title="Специјална:Придонеси/212.110.71.17">212.110.71.17</a> <small>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:212.110.71.17&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:212.110.71.17 (страницата не постои)">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-212.110.71.17-20231228161300-212.110.94.226-20231216094500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 28 декември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-212.110.71.17-20231228161300-212.110.94.226-20231216094500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-212.110.71.17-20231228161300-212.110.94.226-20231216094500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231228164400-212.110.71.17-20231228161300"></span>Не.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231228164400-212.110.71.17-20231228161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 28 декември 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231228164400-212.110.71.17-20231228161300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20231228164400-212.110.71.17-20231228161300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Здраво" data-mw-thread-id="h-Здраво-20240126155700"><span id=".D0.97.D0.B4.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B2.D0.BE"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Здраво-20240126155700"></span>Здраво<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Здраво-20240126155700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sadko-20240126155700-Здраво"></span>Поставио сам веродостојне изворе а допуна ми је обрисана без описа измјене. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%91%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8&diff=5154490&oldid=5154482">[1]</a> — <b><a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Sadko" title="Корисник:Sadko"><span style="color:#CC6600;">Садко</span></a></b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Sadko&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:Sadko (страницата не постои)"><span style="color:#0c0609"> (ријечи су вјетар)</span></a> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Sadko-20240126155700-Здраво" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 26 јануари 2024 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sadko-20240126155700-Здраво"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sadko-20240126155700-Здраво"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bojan9Spasovski-20240126164700-Sadko-20240126155700"></span>ВеРоДосТоЈнЕ <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Bojan9Spasovski" title="Корисник:Bojan9Spasovski">Bojan9Spasovski</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Bojan9Spasovski" title="Разговор со корисник:Bojan9Spasovski">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Bojan9Spasovski-20240126164700-Sadko-20240126155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 26 јануари 2024 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bojan9Spasovski-20240126164700-Sadko-20240126155700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bojan9Spasovski-20240126164700-Sadko-20240126155700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sadko-20240126231400-Bojan9Spasovski-20240126164700"></span>Исто је и на <a href="/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0_%D0%A2%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0" title="Никола Тесла">Никола Тесла</a>. — <b><a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Sadko" title="Корисник:Sadko"><span style="color:#CC6600;">Садко</span></a></b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Sadko&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Разговор со корисник:Sadko (страницата не постои)"><span style="color:#0c0609"> (ријечи су вјетар)</span></a> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Sadko-20240126231400-Bojan9Spasovski-20240126164700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 27 јануари 2024 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sadko-20240126231400-Bojan9Spasovski-20240126164700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sadko-20240126231400-Bojan9Spasovski-20240126164700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Јелена_Розга" data-mw-thread-id="h-Јелена_Розга-20240412091000"><span id=".D0.88.D0.B5.D0.BB.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D0.A0.D0.BE.D0.B7.D0.B3.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Јелена_Розга-20240412091000"></span>Јелена Розга<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Јелена_Розга-20240412091000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abnormalcy333-20240412091000-Јелена_Розга"></span>Здраво Кирил, штотуку забележав дека сте додале натпис дека статијата на којашто работев се класифицира за брзо бришење. Се одлучив да ја создадам поради огромната популарност на видеото и големото влијание што го имало врз популарноста на самата пејачка, а изворите еден по еден сами се појавуваат. Бидејќи забележав дека причината е несоодветен наслов дали мислите дека доколку го насловам видеото како оригиналот, имено „Jelena Rozga - Oprosti mala/Opijum/S druge strane mjeseca“, проблемот ќе се среди? Срдечен поздрав. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Abnormalcy333" title="Корисник:Abnormalcy333">Abnormalcy333</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Abnormalcy333" title="Разговор со корисник:Abnormalcy333">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Abnormalcy333-20240412091000-Јелена_Розга" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:10, 12 април 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abnormalcy333-20240412091000-Јелена_Розга"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abnormalcy333-20240412091000-Јелена_Розга"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240412112400-Abnormalcy333-20240412091000"></span>Здраво. Насловот на статијата ми е крајно нејасен, а очигледно и статијата не е напишана доволно јасно. Прво, „настап од Јелена Розга“ треба да биде „наслов на Јелена Розга“. Второ, по придавката „народни“ нема никаква именка, така што не ми е јасно на што се мисли (може да бидат народни песни, но може и нешто друго). Да не зборувам дека насловот не е согласно јазичните правила во македонскиот јазик. Трето, воведната реченица исто така не е напишана согласно правилата во македонскиот јазик. Изразот „народни радио“ веројатно треба да биде „народно радио“, но ако е име на радио тогаш треба да биде со голема почетна буква, т.е. „Народно радио“. Истото важи и за поранешното име на радиото „браво!“, коешто правилно треба да биде „Браво!“. Многу поголем проблем е тоа што не сум сигурен дека треба да има статии за видео-записи на Википедија на македонски јазик. Можеби е најпаметно дел од содржината да се најде во статијата за Јелена Розга и оваа статија да биде избришана. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240412112400-Abnormalcy333-20240412091000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 12 април 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240412112400-Abnormalcy333-20240412091000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240412112400-Abnormalcy333-20240412091000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abnormalcy333-20240413143500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240412112400"></span>Хмм, разбирам. Фактички најголем проблем е тоа што имињата на радијата прават да звучи чудно на самиот почеток. А што се однесува до употребата на голема буква, работата е што самото радио (поради стилистички причини) се одлучува да биде запишано со мала. Но во секој случај, што се однесува до тие промени, би можел нешто да направам. Што се однесува до релевантност, односно како што напоменувате „статија за видео-записи“, се одлучив да ја објавам затоа што видеото е навистина препопуларно и дури и самата пејачка го има дискутирано во неколку наврати како нешто што ѝ ја однело кариерата на повисок степен. Така што, од тој аспект мислам дека и те како е релевантно. Единствен „проблем“ којшто можам да го замислам е што не би можел да ја зголемам статијата повеќе од тоа како што изгледа сега, нема многу извори коишто го дискутираат. Решението да се припои кон главната статија би било малку тешко, затоа што таа и онака е веќе премногу голема, а вака ќе стане уште поголема и потешка за читање. Па не знам, што се однесува до мене, би поработил на некои правописни промени, но само во случај доколку не ми ја избришете статијата. Ве молам кажете ми што мислите по оваа кратка дискусија. Поздрав. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Abnormalcy333" title="Корисник:Abnormalcy333">Abnormalcy333</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Abnormalcy333" title="Разговор со корисник:Abnormalcy333">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Abnormalcy333-20240413143500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240412112400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 13 април 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abnormalcy333-20240413143500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240412112400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abnormalcy333-20240413143500-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240412112400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C-20240502225300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C-20240502225300"></span><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C-20240502225300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <dl><dd><i><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2024/Announcement_%E2%80%93_vote_reminder" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024/Announcement – vote reminder"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240502225300-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C"></span>You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.</a> <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Universal+Code+of+Conduct%2FCoordinating+Committee%2FElection%2F2024%2FAnnouncement+%E2%80%93+vote+reminder&language=&action=page&filter=">Помогнете со преводот на вашиот јазик</a></i></dd></dl> <p>Dear Wikimedian, </p><p>You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process. </p><p>This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. 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For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please <a href="/w/index.php?title=Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Charter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter (страницата не постои)">review the U4C Charter</a>. </p><p>Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well. </p><p>On behalf of the UCoC project team, </p> </div> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:RamzyM_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:RamzyM (WMF)">RamzyM (WMF)</a> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240502225300-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 3 мај 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240502225300-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240502225300-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cleaning_up_files" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cleaning_up_files-20240714132600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cleaning_up_files-20240714132600"></span>Cleaning up files<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cleaning_up_files-20240714132600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240714132600-Cleaning_up_files"></span>Hi! I got a bot flag to do some work related to files licensed GFDL with disclaimers but I noticed that there were more than just this one thing to fix. </p><p>For example some files do not have a license and some files does not have a good source/author. Generally all free files should have the {{<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE" title="Предлошка:Слика-инфо">Слика-инфо</a>}} template and the non-free files should have the relevant templates for fair use. </p><p>According to <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8" title="Специјална:Статистики">Специјална:Статистики</a> there are 9,261 files on mk.wiki so it will take some time if all files have to be checked one-by-one. </p><p>Do you think there are some users here that would like to make a little clean up task force? I think it will be much easier if there are some local users that can communicate with everyone so it does not have to be in English. </p><p>I have some issues with {{<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%A0%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0" title="Предлошка:СегаРизница">СегаРизница</a>}}. It does not seem to like me very much. :-) So it would be nice if some admins could check and perhaps delete the files. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Корисник:MGA73">MGA73</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Разговор со корисник:MGA73">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-MGA73-20240714132600-Cleaning_up_files" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 14 јули 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240714132600-Cleaning_up_files"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240714132600-Cleaning_up_files"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240715173800-MGA73-20240714132600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Корисник:MGA73">MGA73</a>:</span> Hi there! I agree that there are a lot of non-free locally uploaded files on the Macedonian Wikipedia that should be deleted. Long time ago, there were even thoughts about whether the project should allow locally uploading non-free media or fully rely on the content on Wikimedia Commons. At the moment, I do not have the time to dedicate on cleaning up the project myself, but I am willing to take part in a joint effort with the other admins. This is definitely something which should be advertised either on the <a href="/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BC%D0%B0" title="Википедија:Селска чешма">village pump</a> or the <a href="/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%9E%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Википедија:Огласна табла за администратори">administrators' noticeboard</a>. In the mean time, I will use our off-wiki communication channels to notify some of the other admins regarding your offered assistance. We would very much appreciate if you can better elaborate on how the bot can ease the process (if I understand you correctly, the bot will add a template to files with missing authors/sources and categorise them into specific categories so that the admins can delete them from there). Best regards.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240715173800-MGA73-20240714132600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 15 јули 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240715173800-MGA73-20240714132600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240715173800-MGA73-20240714132600"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240715180100-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240715173800"></span>Awesome! It would be great if you could find some other admins to help out. But non-admins can be very helpful too.</dd> <dd>Usually the best way is to make sure that all new files are good. Once that is secured we can worry about cleaning up the old files.</dd> <dd>I think it would be good to advertice on <a href="/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BC%D0%B0" title="Википедија:Селска чешма">village pump</a> and the <a href="/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%9E%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Википедија:Огласна табла за администратори">administrators' noticeboard</a> and also off wiki. Do you think it would also be good to have a separate page to coordinate this? Unless you decide to mass delete it will take a lot of time to clean up.</dd> <dd>And please write announcements etc. in Macedonian. It is important that everyone understand it. If Google Translate does not make sense I will just ask for help :-) It will ofcourse be easier if you reply in English when it is just you and me that talk. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Корисник:MGA73">MGA73</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Разговор со корисник:MGA73">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-MGA73-20240715180100-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240715173800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 15 јули 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240715180100-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240715173800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240715180100-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240715173800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Виолетова-20240715181600-MGA73-20240715180100"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Корисник:MGA73">MGA73</a>, I am following this conversation and I am willing to join the cleaning group, but I am not sure what do you need from Macedonian user to do? Or, what will be my part of the help? A little clean up task? What does it mean really? How much work? - <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Корисник:Виолетова">Виолетова</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Разговор со корисник:Виолетова">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Виолетова-20240715181600-MGA73-20240715180100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 15 јули 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Виолетова-20240715181600-MGA73-20240715180100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Виолетова-20240715181600-MGA73-20240715180100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240715193700-Cleaning_up_files"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Корисник:Виолетова">Виолетова</a>! Your part can be as big or small as you want (or have time to). I honestly do not know how many hours it will take. It depends on the number of files and on what you/community decide. </p><p>First you should decide if you (still) want to allow upload of free files and non-free files. For some reason I can't see the upload page but looking at <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B8" title="Специјална:СписокНаПодатотеки">Специјална:СписокНаПодатотеки</a> it looks like new files are still uploaded. </p><p>If upload is (still) allowed you should check if the upload form help/guide uploader to add all the relevant information. And I also think it should try to make users chose Commons for free files. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8:Licenses" title="МедијаВики:Licenses">МедијаВики:Licenses</a> should be checked to make sure it list all relevant licenses (and only those). </p><p>It would be good if there is one or a few users that volunteer to monitor all new uploads. The idea is to spot any problems right away and teach uploaders to do it right. Some wikis move all free files to Commons if they are uploaded locally. That will keep the number of files low and further motivate users to upload to Commons. </p><p>Many wikis use the Twinkle Gadget to add templates like no source, no license, orphan non-free, no fair-use rationale etc. That way it is easy to send messages to uploaders to fix something. </p><p>Then all existing license templates should be checked. I tried to link all the free templates via Wikidata. The same should be done with the non-free templates. But they also need to to have {{<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0" title="Предлошка:Слободна податотека">Слободна податотека</a>}} or {{<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%9D%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0" title="Предлошка:Неслободна податотека">Неслободна податотека</a>}} otherwise it will be harder to make the lists in <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73/Status#Ideas_and_things_to_work_on" title="Корисник:MGA73/Status">Корисник:MGA73/Status#Ideas_and_things_to_work_on</a>. </p><p>Once we have the lists we will know how many files that are possibly bad and needs to be checked/fixed. </p><p>There are bots that can down-size non-free files. If we ask nice it is possible to make bot users run their bot here. I got a guy from Ukraine to help fix thousands of files on viwiki but that was before the war. So I do not know if he is still around and have time to help. </p><p>I would suggest to ask all active users to check their own uploads. But there will be some that can't or won't. So other users have to help check. </p><p>The good things about using categories is that if there is a category of non-free logos then it is very easy to spot if there are files there that are not logos. Depending on how many files and what whoever checks the files prefer then they could either scan the categories and move files to the correct categories before they do the actual check and fix or they could take the files one-by-one and fix everything before they go to the next category. </p><p>Logos, albums, bookcovers, posters are usually easy because it does not take much argument to provide a rationale why it is not possible to illustrate an article about a book or a film with a free file. Historic photos and photos of people are more tuff so depending on if the policy allow those files or not it will either be easy (if they are not allowed) or harder (if they are allowed) to check the files. So to make it easy you could limit the Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP). </p><p>It is important that admins agree that it is okay to delete files with problems. It is up to the uploader to fix problems. Not the admins. But admins should of course help new users but don't make them lazy by doing the work for them. At least for new uploads. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Корисник:MGA73">MGA73</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Разговор со корисник:MGA73">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-MGA73-20240715193700-Cleaning_up_files" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 15 јули 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240715193700-Cleaning_up_files"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240715193700-Cleaning_up_files"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240726163200-MGA73-20240715193700"></span>Hello again <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Корисник:Виолетова">Виолетова</a> and <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a>! I have been busy other places but I think that one of the first things could be to add either {{<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0" title="Предлошка:Слободна податотека">Слободна податотека</a>}} or {{<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%9D%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0" title="Предлошка:Неслободна податотека">Неслободна податотека</a>}} to all the known license templates. Could you help do that? Or find someone who can? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Корисник:MGA73">MGA73</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Разговор со корисник:MGA73">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-MGA73-20240726163200-MGA73-20240715193700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 26 јули 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240726163200-MGA73-20240715193700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240726163200-MGA73-20240715193700"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240803181600-MGA73-20240726163200"></span>I have now tried to add the two templates to the license templates. So we will soon know if I missed anyone and/or if there are any files without a license. Is there some better place to talk about this? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Корисник:MGA73">MGA73</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Разговор со корисник:MGA73">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-MGA73-20240803181600-MGA73-20240726163200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 3 август 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240803181600-MGA73-20240726163200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240803181600-MGA73-20240726163200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240803185600-MGA73-20240803181600"></span>Thank you. I think a better place to discuss this is the <a href="/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BC%D0%B0_(%D0%94%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B8_%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8)" title="Википедија:Селска чешма (Други јазици)">village pump</a> even though it doesn’t bother me to use my talk page. Furthermore, Виолетова and I will attend Wikimania in Katowice next week, so we can discuss this in person if you’re also coming. Best regards.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240803185600-MGA73-20240803181600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 3 август 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240803185600-MGA73-20240803181600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240803185600-MGA73-20240803181600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240803190800-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240803185600"></span>I could be interessting but I will not be there. But lets continue on Village Pump. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Корисник:MGA73">MGA73</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Разговор со корисник:MGA73">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-MGA73-20240803190800-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240803185600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 3 август 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240803190800-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240803185600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240803190800-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240803185600"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Корисник:Виолетова"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240803212400-MGA73-20240803190800"></span>Виолетова</a> and <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> I have now made first list at <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73/NoLicense" title="Корисник:MGA73/NoLicense">Корисник:MGA73/NoLicense</a>. It should be checked a little before I put on village pump. If you want to help just click a random image. If there is a license template then add one of the two templates to the license template. If there is no license then just skip the file (or nominate for deletion). I will update the list if new templates are fixed. But it is time to sleep now. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Корисник:MGA73">MGA73</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MGA73" title="Разговор со корисник:MGA73">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-MGA73-20240803212400-MGA73-20240803190800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 3 август 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240803212400-MGA73-20240803190800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240803212400-MGA73-20240803190800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub" data-mw-thread-id="h-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20240726130700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20240726130700"></span>Research about the tools on Wikimedia projects by the CEE Hub<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20240726130700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240726130700-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"></span>Hi everyone, </p><p>We would like to invite you to submit your responses to the survey dedicated to the tools that are used currently across the Wikimedia projects and the tools that you want to have. </p><p>This survey was made by the working group of the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Hub" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia CEE Hub">CEE Hub</a>, and your responses will be reviewed afterwards, as we want to continue supporting the communities. That support can be documentation for certain most used tools by other communities across the region per specific topics, finding solutions for new tools to be created in the future, creating most needed tools in the region (so called "regional wishlist list"), and many other options. </p><p><i>Deadline to fill in the survey is <b>20th of August, 2024</b>.</i> </p><p>Submit your answers <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeIwzCDKs6jXPG7EpZe-JH2Mm1odU0_MAv1bO-z-nLOq9dlug/viewform?usp=sf_link"><b>here</b></a> </p><p>Thank you in advance for your time that you will dedicate in filling in this survey --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="Корисник:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="Разговор со корисник:MediaWiki message delivery">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240726130700-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 26 јули 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240726130700-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240726130700-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="СИЕ_Пролет_2024_-_Награда_за_најдобар_постоечки_корисник" data-mw-thread-id="h-СИЕ_Пролет_2024_-_Награда_за_најдобар_постоечк-20240731191300"><span id=".D0.A1.D0.98.D0.95_.D0.9F.D1.80.D0.BE.D0.BB.D0.B5.D1.82_2024_-_.D0.9D.D0.B0.D0.B3.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B4.D0.B0_.D0.B7.D0.B0_.D0.BD.D0.B0.D1.98.D0.B4.D0.BE.D0.B1.D0.B0.D1.80_.D0.BF.D0.BE.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D0.B5.D1.87.D0.BA.D0.B8_.D0.BA.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B8.D1.81.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.BA"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-СИЕ_Пролет_2024_-_Награда_за_најдобар_постоечк-20240731191300"></span>СИЕ Пролет 2024 - Награда за најдобар постоечки корисник<span data-mw-comment-end="h-СИЕ_Пролет_2024_-_Награда_за_најдобар_постоечк-20240731191300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dandarmkd-20240731191300-СИЕ_Пролет_2024_-_Награда_за_најдобар_постоечк"></span>Вредносен купон во вредност од 2.000 денари за најдобар постоечки корисник, кој претходно не учествувал на уредувачките натпревари „СИЕ Пролет“.</i> </p><p>На кое претходно издание на СИЕ Пролет јас сум учествувал? Како јас сум отстранет од добивање на оваа награда на <a href="/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A3%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8/%D0%A1%D0%98%D0%95_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82_2024#Резултати" title="Википедија:Уредувачки натпревари/СИЕ Пролет 2024">СИЕ Пролет 2024</a>? <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Dandarmkd" title="Корисник:Dandarmkd">Dandarmkd</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Dandarmkd" title="Разговор со корисник:Dandarmkd">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Dandarmkd" title="Корисник:Dandarmkd">Dandarmkd</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Dandarmkd" title="Разговор со корисник:Dandarmkd">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Dandarmkd-20240731191300-СИЕ_Пролет_2024_-_Награда_за_најдобар_постоечк" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 31 јули 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dandarmkd-20240731191300-СИЕ_Пролет_2024_-_Награда_за_најдобар_постоечк"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dandarmkd-20240731191300-СИЕ_Пролет_2024_-_Награда_за_најдобар_постоечк"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240731222800-Dandarmkd-20240731191300"></span>Здраво, додаден си како добитник на наградата. Поздрав.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240731222800-Dandarmkd-20240731191300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 1 август 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240731222800-Dandarmkd-20240731191300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20240731222800-Dandarmkd-20240731191300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub" data-mw-thread-id="h-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20241007121000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20241007121000"></span>Results from the survey about the tools on Wikimedia projects by the CEE Hub<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20241007121000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241007121000-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"></span>Hi everyone, </p><p>During August 2024, we sent you a survey about the tools, so now we would like to bring to your attention the conclusions and results from the survey, which you can explore on this <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Hub/Tools" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia CEE Hub/Tools">Meta page</a></b>. </p><p>I hope you will enjoy exploring the mentioned tools on the page, along with other conclusions from the survey. Thanks for your time, and we will continue working on this important topic. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="Корисник:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="Разговор со корисник:MediaWiki message delivery">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241007121000-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 7 октомври 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241007121000-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241007121000-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="VIAF" data-mw-thread-id="h-VIAF-20241021124900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-VIAF-20241021124900"></span>VIAF<span data-mw-comment-end="h-VIAF-20241021124900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geagea-20241021124900-VIAF"></span>Hello Kiril, </p><p>We met at Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2023 in Tbilisi. My name is Gia from Israel. I want to add the National Library of Macedonia to VIAF - <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://viaf.org/">https://viaf.org/</a> . I don't see any article about the National Library of Macedonia. I can see the National and University Library "St. Kliment of Ohrid". So I suppose that this is the national library. Do you or other Macedonia colleagues have any connection to the National Library of Macedonia in order to made it work? <a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Geagea" title="Корисник:Geagea">Geagea</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Geagea" title="Разговор со корисник:Geagea">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Geagea-20241021124900-VIAF" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 21 октомври 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geagea-20241021124900-VIAF"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geagea-20241021124900-VIAF"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241023222500-Geagea-20241021124900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Geagea" title="Корисник:Geagea">Geagea</a>:</span> Hello Gia, I remember you very well. One night we were travelling by bus tomthe hotel in which we were both staying. The national library is exactly the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:National_and_University_Library_%22St._Kliment_of_Ohrid%22" class="extiw" title="w:en:National and University Library "St. Kliment of Ohrid"">National and University Library "St. Kliment of Ohrid"</a>. We collaborated with them a couple of times in the past and even signed a memorandum of collaboration. So, it should be possible to get in touch with them again. Best regards.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="Корисник:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> <small>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">разговор</a>)</small> <a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Kiril_Simeonovski#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241023222500-Geagea-20241021124900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 24 октомври 2024 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241023222500-Geagea-20241021124900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">одговори</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241023222500-Geagea-20241021124900"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Преземено од „<a dir="ltr" href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Разговор_со_корисник:Kiril_Simeonovski&oldid=5286031">https://mk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Разговор_со_корисник:Kiril_Simeonovski&oldid=5286031</a>“</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Скриена категорија: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8_%D1%81%D0%BE_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D0%B2%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%B7%D0%B0_ISBN" title="Категорија:Страници со волшебни врски за ISBN">Страници со волшебни врски за ISBN</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Последната промена на страницава е извршена на 23 октомври 2024 г. во 23:25 ч.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Текстот е достапен под условите на лиценцата <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">Криејтив комонс Наведи извор-Сподели под исти услови</a>. 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