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href="#Helikoptery"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Helikoptery</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Helikoptery-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IFD_nomination_-_Hosho" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IFD_nomination_-_Hosho"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>IFD nomination - Hosho</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-IFD_nomination_-_Hosho-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tupelov_Tu-22" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tupelov_Tu-22"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>Tupelov Tu-22</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Tupelov_Tu-22-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiWings_April_2005" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiWings_April_2005"> <div 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vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Föhn"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Föhn</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Föhn-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-We_need_to_get_our_heads_together" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#We_need_to_get_our_heads_together"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>We need to get our heads together</span> </div> </a> <button aria-controls="toc-We_need_to_get_our_heads_together-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle We need to get our heads together subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-We_need_to_get_our_heads_together-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Thanks_for_the_Speedy_References_Response" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks_for_the_Speedy_References_Response"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13.1</span> <span>Thanks for the Speedy References Response</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Thanks_for_the_Speedy_References_Response-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Piloci" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Piloci"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Piloci</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Piloci-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Polish_Army" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Polish_Army"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Polish Army</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Polish_Army-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ludwik_Idzikowski" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ludwik_Idzikowski"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Ludwik Idzikowski</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Ludwik_Idzikowski-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Looking_for_Some_Language_Skills_like_Yours" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Looking_for_Some_Language_Skills_like_Yours"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Looking for Some Language Skills like Yours</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Looking_for_Some_Language_Skills_like_Yours-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Port_Arthur_etc" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Port_Arthur_etc"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Port Arthur etc</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Port_Arthur_etc-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Aircraft_specifications_survey" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Aircraft_specifications_survey"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Aircraft specifications survey</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Aircraft_specifications_survey-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Aircraft_specs_policy" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Aircraft_specs_policy"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Aircraft specs policy</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Aircraft_specs_policy-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Prawo_autorskie" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Prawo_autorskie"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Prawo autorskie</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Prawo_autorskie-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Infobox" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Infobox"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Infobox</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Infobox-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Battles_of_Narvik" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Battles_of_Narvik"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Battles of Narvik</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Battles_of_Narvik-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Giulio_Cesare" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Giulio_Cesare"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Giulio Cesare</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Giulio_Cesare-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-E1_Tracer_photo" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#E1_Tracer_photo"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>E1 Tracer photo</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-E1_Tracer_photo-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Image:MD450 Ouragon 1.jpg and other</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Thank you for your Poland-related contributions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Alexander_Marinesko" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Alexander_Marinesko"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Alexander Marinesko</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Alexander_Marinesko-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Museum_ships" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Museum_ships"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Museum ships</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Museum_ships-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Museum_Ships_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Museum_Ships_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Museum Ships</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Museum_Ships_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Problematic ISBN in Polikarpov I-180 and Polikarpov I-185</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Aviation_Newsletter_delivery" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Aviation_Newsletter_delivery"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Aviation Newsletter delivery</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Aviation_Newsletter_delivery-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Commons" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Commons"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Commons</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Commons-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-LWD_Szpak" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#LWD_Szpak"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>LWD Szpak</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-LWD_Szpak-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-References" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#References"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>References</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-References-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Polish_aircraft_requests" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Polish_aircraft_requests"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Polish aircraft requests</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Polish_aircraft_requests-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PZL-106_Kruk" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PZL-106_Kruk"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>PZL-106 Kruk</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-PZL-106_Kruk-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-LWS-6_Żubr" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#LWS-6_Żubr"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>LWS-6 Żubr</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-LWS-6_Żubr-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Maiden_flight" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Maiden_flight"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Maiden flight</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Maiden_flight-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PZL.43" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PZL.43"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>PZL.43</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-PZL.43-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-More_missing_aircraft_requests" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#More_missing_aircraft_requests"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>More missing aircraft requests</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-More_missing_aircraft_requests-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Obrazki" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Obrazki"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Obrazki</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Obrazki-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Grafiki" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Grafiki"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Grafiki</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Grafiki-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bf_108" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bf_108"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Bf 108</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bf_108-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Various" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Various"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Various</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Various-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AP" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AP"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>AP</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-AP-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-MD-12_fixed_width_photo" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#MD-12_fixed_width_photo"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>MD-12 fixed width photo</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-MD-12_fixed_width_photo-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-P.24" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#P.24"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>P.24</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-P.24-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>PZL P.7 and PZL P.11</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Potez_25" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Potez_25"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Potez 25</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Potez_25-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Blériot-SPAD S.51 and S.61</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-SZD_i_Mielec" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#SZD_i_Mielec"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>SZD i Mielec</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-SZD_i_Mielec-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-French_Navy" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#French_Navy"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>French Navy</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-French_Navy-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image:96-25.JPG" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image:96-25.JPG"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>Image:96-25.JPG</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image:96-25.JPG-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_AWM_images" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_AWM_images"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>Re: AWM images</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_AWM_images-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>HMS Jervis (F00)/J, K and N class destroyer</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>Invitation to join WikiProject Ships</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>re:Juliusz Nowina-Sokolnicki</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Watercolors" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Watercolors"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>Watercolors</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Watercolors-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sequence" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sequence"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>Sequence</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sequence-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Stall_speed" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Stall_speed"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>Stall speed</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Stall_speed-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-First_air_army?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#First_air_army?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>First air army?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-First_air_army?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Inline_references" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Inline_references"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>Inline references</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Inline_references-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Categories" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Categories"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>Categories</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Categories-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bibliographies" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bibliographies"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>Bibliographies</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bibliographies-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mikasa" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mikasa"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>Mikasa</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Mikasa-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Name_changes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Name_changes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>Name changes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Name_changes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>No content in Category:Czechoslovakian civil trainer aircraft 1950-1959</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-K_pattern_flamethrower" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#K_pattern_flamethrower"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>K pattern flamethrower</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-K_pattern_flamethrower-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span>DYK for K pattern flamethrower</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>An exciting opportunity to get involved!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Midshipman" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Midshipman"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span>Midshipman</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Midshipman-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-303_squadron" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#303_squadron"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>303 squadron</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-303_squadron-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span>Challenge International de Tourisme 1930</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>DYK nomination of SHL (motorcycle)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>DYK for SHL (motorcycle)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-52" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_PWS-52"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span>DYK for PWS-52</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-52-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>DYK for Szybowcowy Zakład Doświadczalny</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PWS-5_and_PWS-6" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PWS-5_and_PWS-6"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span>PWS-5 and PWS-6</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-PWS-5_and_PWS-6-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PWS-6" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PWS-6"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span>PWS-6</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-PWS-6-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PWS-5" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PWS-5"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>PWS-5</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-PWS-5-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>DYK nomination of PWS-5</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span>DYK nomination of PWS-6</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-5" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_PWS-5"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span>DYK for PWS-5</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-5-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-6" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_PWS-6"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>DYK for PWS-6</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-6-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PWS-3_et_al" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PWS-3_et_al"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>PWS-3 et al</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-PWS-3_et_al-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bohatyrewicz" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bohatyrewicz"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>Bohatyrewicz</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bohatyrewicz-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PWS-3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PWS-3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>PWS-3</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-PWS-3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Zbigniew_Babiński" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Zbigniew_Babiński"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span>Zbigniew Babiński</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Zbigniew_Babiński-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_PWS-3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">93</span> <span>DYK for PWS-3</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">94</span> <span>DYK for Zbigniew Babiński</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PWS-4" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PWS-4"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">95</span> <span>PWS-4</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-PWS-4-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-4" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_PWS-4"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">96</span> <span>DYK for PWS-4</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_PWS-4-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Merry,_merry" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Merry,_merry"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">97</span> <span>Merry, merry</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Merry,_merry-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Autopatrolled" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Autopatrolled"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">98</span> <span>Autopatrolled</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Autopatrolled-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PZL.50_Jastrząb" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PZL.50_Jastrząb"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">99</span> <span>PZL.50 Jastrząb</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-PZL.50_Jastrząb-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">100</span> <span>PZL P.11 and PZL Ł.2</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">101</span> <span>Challenge International de Tourisme 1930</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Season's_tidings!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Season's_tidings!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">102</span> <span>Season's tidings!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Season's_tidings!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Another_panzerfaust_copy!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Another_panzerfaust_copy!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">103</span> <span>Another panzerfaust copy!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Another_panzerfaust_copy!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">104</span> <span>Russian armored cruiser Bayan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-File:RWD-6.jpg_missing_description_details" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#File:RWD-6.jpg_missing_description_details"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">105</span> <span>File:RWD-6.jpg missing description details</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-File:RWD-6.jpg_missing_description_details-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Featuring_your_work_on_Wikipedia's_front_page:_DYKs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a 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href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Hi"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi Pibwl - I've noticed that at present, Wikipedia is using a mixture of styles for Polish aircraft designations, sometimes even in the same article! Can you suggest whether PZL.37 is better than PZL-37 or vice versa? I think we should pick just one of these alternatives and stick to it. Cheers --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> 22:30, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>If PZL.37 was more correct at the time the aircraft was built, I agree this would be better, and maybe we can standardise on that? You're probably in a better position than me to investigate this - please let me know what you find out. Cheers --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> 23:30, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I've also added a few more PZL aircraft in the <a href="/wiki/PZL" class="mw-disambig" title="PZL">PZL</a> article - could you please check my work? It's important that we get this list right so that we get the "Designation series" links right in the footers (by convention, three aircraft back and three forward) --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> 00:06, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RWD" data-mw-thread-id="h-RWD"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RWD"></span>RWD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RWD"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: RWD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi again Pibwl - could you please check what I wrote at <a href="/wiki/RWD_(aircraft_manufacturer)" title="RWD (aircraft manufacturer)">RWD (aircraft manufacturer)</a> and make any corrections that you can see? I thought it was time we disambiguated from <a href="/wiki/Rear_wheel_drive" class="mw-redirect" title="Rear wheel drive">rear wheel drive</a>! --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> 23:39, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Polishsymbol" data-mw-thread-id="h-Polishsymbol"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Polishsymbol"></span>Polishsymbol<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Polishsymbol"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Polishsymbol"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Czy mógłbyś rzucić okiem na <a href="/wiki/Template:Polishsymbol" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Polishsymbol">Template:Polishsymbol</a>? Nie jestem pewien czy dobrze przetłumaczyłem polski odpowiednik. [[User:Halibutt|<a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a>]] 10:55, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Dzięki serdeczne! Ja jestem tym mniej pewien bo na prawie znam się jak kura na pieprzu, ale przypuszczam że tak ten przepis można zinterpretować, w końcu wszelkie decyzje tak rządu rządu jaki i jego delegatur rejonowych podeń podlegają. A skoro tak, to także chyba herby i godła sankcjonowane decyzjami urzędów miejskich i rad miasta. Stąd to "assumed". Dzięki jeszcze raz. [[User:Halibutt|<a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a>]] 11:24, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bark" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bark"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bark"></span>Bark<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bark"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Bark"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Przy odpowiednim pomniejszeniu wygląda nieźle - jako ikonka. 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href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Multi-licensing" title="Wikipedia:Multi-licensing">multi-license</a> all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the <a href="/wiki/Creative_Commons" title="Creative Commons">Creative Commons</a> Attribution-Share Alike (<i>CC-by-sa</i>) v1.0 and v2.0 <a href="/wiki/Creative_Commons_License" class="mw-redirect" title="Creative Commons License">Licenses</a> or into the <a href="/wiki/Public_domain" title="Public domain">public domain</a> if they prefer. The <i>CC-by-sa</i> license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the <a href="/wiki/GFDL" class="mw-redirect" title="GFDL">GFDL</a>, but it allows <b>other projects</b>, such as <a href="/wiki/WikiTravel" class="mw-redirect" title="WikiTravel">WikiTravel</a>, to use our articles. Since you are among the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits" title="Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits">top 1000</a> Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at <i>minimum</i> those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ram-Man#Multi-Licensing_FAQ" title="User talk:Ram-Man">Multi-Licensing FAQ</a> - Lots of questions answered</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Multi-licensing" title="Wikipedia:Multi-licensing">Multi-Licensing Guide</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Rambot#Free_the_Rambot_Articles_project" title="User:Rambot">Free the Rambot Articles Project</a></li></ul> <p>To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "<b>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</b>" template into their user page, but there are other options at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_namespace#Licensing_Templates" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Template messages/User namespace">Template messages/User namespace</a>. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page: </p> <dl><dd><b>Option 1</b></dd> <dd>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:</dd> <dd>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</dd></dl> <p><b>OR</b> </p> <dl><dd><b>Option 2</b></dd> <dd>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:</dd> <dd>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</dd></dl> <p>Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "<b>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</b>" with "<b>{{MultiLicensePD}}</b>". If you only prefer using the <a href="/wiki/GFDL" class="mw-redirect" title="GFDL">GFDL</a>, I would like to know that too. <i>Please let me know</i> what you think at my <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ram-Man" title="User talk:Ram-Man">talk page</a></b>. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ram-Man" title="User:Ram-Man">Ram-Man</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new">comment</a>| <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ram-Man" title="User talk:Ram-Man">talk)</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Helikoptery" data-mw-thread-id="h-Helikoptery"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Helikoptery"></span>Helikoptery<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Helikoptery"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Helikoptery"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Czesc, widzalem ze stworzylec artykul o PZL SW-4. Moze Cie zainteresuje pozwolenie ktore otrzymalem, do uzywania wszelkiego materialu jaki sie znajduje na <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.pzl.swidnik.pl/">http://www.pzl.swidnik.pl/</a>. </p><p>Sa tam broszury w jezyku angielskim, np. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.pzl.swidnik.pl/AN2000/01_SOKOL/2101_p_smiglowce.htm">http://www.pzl.swidnik.pl/AN2000/01_SOKOL/2101_p_smiglowce.htm</a> </p><p>W razie potrzeby dalszych informacji lub zdjec, mam sie do nich zglosic. </p><p>Pozdrawiam--<a href="/wiki/User:Emax" title="User:Emax">Emax</a> 12:53, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC) </p><p><br/> Otrzymalem taka odpowiedz na prosbe: </p><p><i>Szanowny Panie,</i> </p><p><i>Nie widzę przeszkód w wykorzystaniu materiałów ze strony www.pzl.swidnik.pl do wzbogacenia kreowanego przez Pana serwisu. W przypadku gdyby materiały na naszej stronie okazały się niewystarczające proszę o kontakt.</i> </p><p><i>Pozdrawiam</i> </p><p><i>Karol Błaszczyk</i> </p><p>Zdjecia najlepiej wladowac jako fairuse. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Emax" title="User:Emax">Emax</a> 17:52, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC) </p><p>Wiesz, to w zasadzie juz ich problem ;) W prosbie napisalem ze to niekomercyjna encyklopedia i ze potrzebne sa w celach edukacyjnych, a przy okazji - by ich zachecic - mieli by darmowa reklame swojego sprzetu - wiec sadzac po pozytywnej odpowiedzi, nie maja nic przeciwko :) </p><p>Co do wielkosci zdjec, moglbym je powiekszyc, juz mialem przygotowany folder i powiekszone, ale wywalilem caly - wiec jak cos moge za jakis czas wstawic wieksze, lub napisac prosbe o wieksze zdjecia.--<a href="/wiki/User:Emax" title="User:Emax">Emax</a> 17:39, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IFD_nomination_-_Hosho" data-mw-thread-id="h-IFD_nomination_-_Hosho"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IFD_nomination_-_Hosho"></span>IFD nomination - Hosho<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IFD_nomination_-_Hosho"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: IFD nomination - Hosho"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi Pibwl. You nominated <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Japanese.aircraft.carrier.hosho.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Japanese.aircraft.carrier.hosho.jpg (page does not exist)">Image:Japanese.aircraft.carrier.hosho.jpg</a> for deletion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IFD">WP:IFD</a>. When you do that, please put <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ifd" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ifd">ifd</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> at the image description page. Also, note that the version you put at the Commons, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:716px-Japanese.aircraft.carrier.hosho.jpg" class="extiw" title="commons:Image:716px-Japanese.aircraft.carrier.hosho.jpg">Commons:Image:716px-Japanese.aircraft.carrier.hosho.jpg</a>, has a different file name. Since the version you nominated isn't an orphan, it can't be deleted. Finally, I'm curious why you thumbnailed the image at the Commons to a width of only 716 pixels. I've uploaded the higher resolution version over top of it. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Dbenbenn" title="User:Dbenbenn">dbenbenn</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dbenbenn" title="User talk:Dbenbenn">talk</a> 02:22, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Thanks for pointing my attention at it. I was really wondering, from where I took 716px image of Japanese.aircraft.carrier.hosho.jpg - and finally found, that I've downloaded it from English Wikipedia in a thumbnailed version, instead of full size one. I must be aware of it in the future. Well, I guess, the best would be to upload it to commons with correct filename (without 716px) and quickly delete it from commons? (seems, that as for now, only Polish wiki uses it, which I'd change). <a href="/wiki/User:Pibwl" title="User:Pibwl">Pibwl</a> 18:30, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I went ahead and replaced it with <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Japanese_aircraft_carrier_Hosho.jpg" class="extiw" title="commons:Image:Japanese aircraft carrier Hosho.jpg">Commons:Image:Japanese aircraft carrier Hosho.jpg</a> here and on the Polish Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Dbenbenn" title="User:Dbenbenn">dbenbenn</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dbenbenn" title="User talk:Dbenbenn">talk</a> 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tupelov_Tu-22" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tupelov_Tu-22"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tupelov_Tu-22"></span>Tupelov Tu-22<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tupelov_Tu-22"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Tupelov Tu-22"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Pibwl, </p><p>You said: </p><p>"Hello. How reliable are numbers of aircraft built, that you've given? I was basing before on Н.В.Якубович - Бомбардировщик Ту-22. And, would it be only 15-20 original Tu-22B to be exported?.. No more?.. Pibwl 22:37, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)" </p><p>The original Tu-22B was discontinued very early, BUT the Tu-22R retained conventional bombing capability (the recce pack could be removed from the weapons bay). The modern (post-Cold War) sources I've seen indicate that the exported Tu-22s were Tu-22Rs without the reconnaissance package (functionally Tu-22Bs, but incorporating the various incremental changes made to later-production aircraft). Given the relatively small numbers that were exported, that makes sense, since the VVS and AVMF were not operating Tu-22Bs and the early production aircraft were apparently bug-ridden (even for a very flawed design) -- they exported versions of the current production aircraft with sensitive systems deleted. </p><p>-- <a href="/w/index.php?title=ArgentLA&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="ArgentLA (page does not exist)">ArgentLA</a> 14:47, 26 April 2005 </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiWings_April_2005" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiWings_April_2005-2005-05-10T02:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiWings_April_2005-2005-05-10T02:03:00.000Z"></span>WikiWings April 2005<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiWings_April_2005-2005-05-10T02:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: WikiWings April 2005"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2005-05-10T02:03:00.000Z-WikiWings_April_2005"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikiwings0504.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Wikiwings0504.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="150" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="150"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Hi again Pibwl. I'd like to give you the <a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann/WikiWings" title="User:Rlandmann/WikiWings">WikiWings</a> award for February 2005 for your <a href="/wiki/Lublin_R-XIII" title="Lublin R-XIII">Lublin R-XIII</a> article. While the award is meant to recognise excellence in a particular aircraft article, I'd also like to express my appreciation for your long-term tireless work on Polish aircraft here. Many thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2005-05-10T02:03:00.000Z-WikiWings_April_2005" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2005-05-10T02:03:00.000Z-WikiWings_April_2005"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2005-05-10T02:03:00.000Z-WikiWings_April_2005"></span> </p><dl><dd>A tak z ciekawości: dlaczego ponownie przeniosłeś 300 dywizjon pod adres "300 eskadra"? Ta jednostka miała swoją polską nazwę oraz nazwę w nomenklaturze RAF, która jednak nijak się nie miała do nazwy właściwej i oryginalnej. Zwróć uwagę, że polski dywizjon tłumaczy się na angielski właśnie jako command. Squadron to albo szwadron w kawalerii albo eskadra w lotnictwie. To że RAF używa innej nomenklatury jeszcze nie znaczy że polskie siły zbrojne też się na taką przestawiły... <a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> 16:31, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Poza tym, ta jednostka była częścią polskich sił zbrojnych a nie armii brytyjskiej, choć podlegała pod nią organizacyjnie. Jeśli iść za Twym przykładem, to artykuł o <a href="/wiki/Polish_1st_Armoured_Division" class="mw-redirect" title="Polish 1st Armoured Division">Polish 1st Armoured Division</a> należałoby przenieść albo do <a href="/w/index.php?title=British_1st_Armoured_Division_(Polish)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="British 1st Armoured Division (Polish) (page does not exist)">British 1st Armoured Division (Polish)</a>, albo nawet <a href="/w/index.php?title=Canadian_1st_Armoured_Division_(Polish)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Canadian 1st Armoured Division (Polish) (page does not exist)">Canadian 1st Armoured Division (Polish)</a>, co jest oczywistym absurdem. <a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> 16:35, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd>Dywizjon można tłumaczyć, w zależności od chęci, jako command, unit albo detachment. A co do nazw - squadron zaiste został przyjęty już w czasie wojny, tyle że nie przez Polaków, a przez Angoli, którzy po prostu znormalizowali nomenklaturę. Ostatecznie można polską jednostkę nazwać błędną, choć przyjętą w literaturze nazwą. Ja osobiście optowałbym za <a href="/wiki/No._300_%22Land_of_Masovia%22_Polish_Bomber_Squadron" class="mw-redirect" title="No. 300 "Land of Masovia" Polish Bomber Squadron">No. 300 "Land of Masovia" Polish Bomber Squadron</a> albo <a href="/wiki/No._300_Polish_Bomber_Squadron" title="No. 300 Polish Bomber Squadron">No. 300 Polish Bomber Squadron</a>, jeśli już musi być szwadron. Natomiast nazywanie tego polskim dywizjonem RAF jest jakimś nieporozumieniem - patrz przykład 1 pancernej, albo dowolnej innej jednostki polskiego wojska z tamtych czasów. Podobnie w zasadzie Armię Krajową można by nazwać British Home Army (Polish) albo polską MW nazwać Royal Navy (Polish). Na temat dywizjonu (nie szwadronu!) 303 toczyłem kiedyś ożywioną dyskusję z <a href="/wiki/User:Philip_Baird_Shearer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Philip Baird Shearer">PBSem</a> i efekt był taki, żeby na razie tego nie ruszać, póki 303 był jedynym dywizjonem opisanym. Jednak teraz już tak nie jest i nie widzę powodu by promować ten błąd. <a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> 22:07, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>No, nie tak do końca. To u nich się toto nazywa nie po bożemu i to nie od Angoliśmy przejęli ten system. Patrz francuska Groupe (odpowiednik dywizjonu) dzieląca się na <i>escadrille</i> (czyli eskadry właśnie). To u Angoli te eskadry się skurczyły do pięciu samolotów (patrz choćby początkowy podział 303 na dwie eskadry po 5 maszyn), a za nimi poszły i dywizjony. Ale to detal.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd>Co do nazwy No. 300 Polish Bomber Squadron - może być. Może lepiej by było 300th Polish Bomber Squadron? No. jest skrótowcem, który równie dobrze można rozwinąć... <a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> 23:17, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Polish_Wikipedians'_notice_board" data-mw-thread-id="h-Polish_Wikipedians'_notice_board"><span id="Polish_Wikipedians.27_notice_board"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Polish_Wikipedians'_notice_board"></span>Polish Wikipedians' notice board<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Polish_Wikipedians'_notice_board"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Polish Wikipedians' notice board"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1252059228">.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain{float:right;margin:0 0 0 1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-base,#fff);padding:0.3em 0.6em 0.2em 0.6em;text-align:center;font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxleft{float:left;margin:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutlist{display:inline-block;border-bottom:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);margin-bottom:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain ul{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutanchordiv{position:relative;top:-3em}.mw-parser-output li .module-shortcutanchordiv{float:right}.mw-parser-output .mbox-imageright .module-shortcutboxplain{padding:0.4em 1em 0.4em 1em;line-height:1.3;margin:0}</style><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:WNBP"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WNBP&redirect=no">WP:WNBP</a></span></li></ul></div></div><p> zapraszam.--<a href="/wiki/User:Witkacy" title="User:Witkacy">Witkacy</a> 13:31, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Operacja_Zima" data-mw-thread-id="h-Operacja_Zima"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Operacja_Zima"></span>Operacja Zima<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Operacja_Zima"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Operacja Zima"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Daugavpils" title="Battle of Daugavpils">Battle of Daugavpils</a> -- <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.geocities.com/pibwl/ft17_dyneburg8.jpg">[1]</a> -- {{Battlebox|... }} </p><p>Czy można? :) </p><p>Pozdrawiam, <a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> 14:20, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Föhn" data-mw-thread-id="h-Föhn"><span id="F.C3.B6hn"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Föhn"></span>Föhn<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Föhn"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Föhn"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>If you read the <a href="/wiki/Wind" title="Wind">Wind</a> article more closely, you will see that your concern is addressed in the Modern wind names section of the article. There is a link to <a href="/wiki/Foehn" class="mw-redirect" title="Foehn">Foehn</a> (an acceptable alternate spelling) there. I hope you will find this suitable. <a href="/wiki/User:Denni" title="User:Denni">Denni</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Denni" title="User talk:Denni"><span style="color:#228822;">☯</span></a> 00:50, 2005 Jun 24 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="We_need_to_get_our_heads_together" data-mw-thread-id="h-We_need_to_get_our_heads_together"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-We_need_to_get_our_heads_together"></span>We need to get our heads together<span data-mw-comment-end="h-We_need_to_get_our_heads_together"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: We need to get our heads together"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Re: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Port_Arthur&diff=0&oldid=15512534">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Port_Arthur&diff=0&oldid=15512534</a> You changed information from cited references. Please provide your sources and I'll dig out mine and recheck the data I entered. I stand corrected on whether they were repaired for later segments, that was an inference from information that some naval guns were landed and added to the harbor defenses. Other refs made it clear they were later in service, but our lists of ships definitely need reconciled. Also, I didn't yet add a battle source ref. to this article, only Theodore Rex which deals with background. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Fabartus" title="User:Fabartus">User:Fabartus</a> || <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fabartus" title="User talk:Fabartus">Talkto_FrankB</a> 23:21, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Thanks_for_the_Speedy_References_Response" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_for_the_Speedy_References_Response-We_need_to_get_our_heads_together"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_for_the_Speedy_References_Response-We_need_to_get_our_heads_together"></span>Thanks for the Speedy References Response<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_for_the_Speedy_References_Response-We_need_to_get_our_heads_together"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Thanks for the Speedy References Response"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Re: Reference requests for <a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Port_Arthur" title="Battle of Port Arthur">Battle of Port Arthur</a> </p> <ul><li>Thanks for the quick reply-- I'm chuckling as I'm 3/4 Polish myself genetically with 1/4 Lithuanian as well — though you might not be able to tell after what chauvenistic 'Civil Servants' did to our surname back when grandfather came through Ellis Island (immigrant processing center) at NYC. Your info does match mine, but those two episodes are considered part of the same battle in English and American Histories. I only had one reference when I first visited the battle, and hadn't quite gotten back to visiting it to expand, as I'm planning. Thanks for the on line references as well, I need to learn to search out more of those. The good ones are worth it, but many are so much junk. I still tend to go to printed texts. Let's stay in touch! Gotta get up and go this morning is moving fast, but it's better than yesterday if there's Wiki in it — I was going through some severe withdrawal by last evening (with the software upgrades) to the English Language Wiki).</li></ul> <p>Best Wishes, FrankB </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Fabartus" title="User:Fabartus">User:Fabartus</a> || <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fabartus" title="User talk:Fabartus">Talkto_FrankB</a> 28 June 2005 11:29 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Piloci" data-mw-thread-id="h-Piloci"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Piloci"></span>Piloci<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Piloci"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Piloci"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Swietnie ze zakladasz nowe artykuly o polskich lotnikach - podrzucam Ci cos do rozwiniecia <a href="/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Wigura" title="Stanisław Wigura">Stanisław Wigura</a> ;)--<a href="/wiki/User:Witkacy" title="User:Witkacy">Witkacy</a> 3 July 2005 23:16 (UTC) </p><p>Moglbys dac glos na zostawienie - <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Anti-Polonism" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-Polonism">Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-Polonism</a> dzieki--<a href="/wiki/User:Witkacy" title="User:Witkacy">Witkacy</a> 4 July 2005 22:19 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Polish_Army" data-mw-thread-id="h-Polish_Army"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Polish_Army"></span>Polish Army<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Polish_Army"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Polish Army"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>And again we have a lengthy voting on name issues - this time at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Wojsko_Polskie" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Wojsko Polskie">Talk:Wojsko Polskie</a>. Please join. <a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> July 5, 2005 05:58 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Zdjecia znalazlem na stronie ktora cala swoja tresc nie podala jako objeta prawami autorskimi - druga sprawa, to zdjecia robione przez wojsko podlegaja public domain - zdjecie ma okolo 80 lat, moim zdaniem mozna uzywac je smialo jako public domain - w 100% niczego nie jestem pewien ;)--<a href="/wiki/User:Witkacy" title="User:Witkacy">Witkacy</a> 7 July 2005 21:23 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>A tak na marginesie, kojarzy mi sie ze stworzyles kiedys artykul o Stanislawie Skalskim - ktory znikl, chyba ze tylko cos mi sie skojarzylo :)--<a href="/wiki/User:Witkacy" title="User:Witkacy">Witkacy</a> 7 July 2005 21:32 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Masz racje, z tymi prawami jest niezly galimatjas - przypuszczam ze nikt juz nawet nie pamieta kto robil te zdjeci Indziaka, i zakladam ze posiada je jakies panstwowe archiwum, rowniez jest w ich posiadaniu. Czesto w ksiazkach sie spotykam z tym samym zdjeciem ktore raz ma podpis "prywatne archiwum XXX" a raz "archiwum muzeum XXX" - niech sie nad tym zastanowi adwokat ktory w razie potrzeby poda do sadu wikipedie, co jest raczej malo realne ;)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Co do Skalskiego - co autor to inna liczba, ale zawsze mozna podac liczbe XXX lub XXX--<a href="/wiki/User:Witkacy" title="User:Witkacy">Witkacy</a> 7 July 2005 21:57 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ludwik_Idzikowski" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ludwik_Idzikowski"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ludwik_Idzikowski"></span><a href="/wiki/Ludwik_Idzikowski" title="Ludwik Idzikowski">Ludwik Idzikowski</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ludwik_Idzikowski"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Ludwik Idzikowski"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi! I think the recent changes really help out the formatting and readability (the photos and links). I suppose it could use some headings to break up the text into summarized sections. What do you think of section headers like <b>Military Career</b> and <b>Transatlantic Flights</b>? Those may not be right, but I'm thinking it would be helpful to the reader to have it broken into sections.<a href="/wiki/User:Tobycat" title="User:Tobycat">Tobycat</a> 7 July 2005 23:35 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Looking_for_Some_Language_Skills_like_Yours" data-mw-thread-id="h-Looking_for_Some_Language_Skills_like_Yours"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Looking_for_Some_Language_Skills_like_Yours"></span>Looking for Some Language Skills like Yours<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Looking_for_Some_Language_Skills_like_Yours"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Looking for Some Language Skills like Yours"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Still poking around the Russo-Japanese War era... </p> <ul><li>Have you got any sources on</li></ul> <ol><li>when the Russians moved into Port Arthur and started upgrading it's harbor, port, town, etc. (which seems to have been well before (2-3 years?) the actual lease <a href="/wiki/Kwantung_Leased_Territory" title="Kwantung Leased Territory">Kwantung Leased Territory</a> of 1898).</li> <li>when they actually started building a railway South from Harbin, and North from Port Arthur?</li> <li>re: "Construction of the CER started in July 1897 along the line Tarskaya - Hilar - Harbin - Nikolsk-Ussuriski. ", Translations or Checks of what those redlinked city names were and are today in <a href="/wiki/China_Far_East_Railway" class="mw-redirect" title="China Far East Railway">China Far East Railway</a> Article, which along with <a href="/wiki/Manchukuo" title="Manchukuo">Manchukuo</a> Article seems to need some fact checking. The later at least misstates which country built the branch line south from Harbin to Port Arthur.</li> <li>Also whether and hence when they '<b>actually (ever) leased'</b> the region of the mainline 'Manchurian Railroad' (CER) through Harbin (Chita to Vladovostok), and whether that has a treaty specific name such as the Kwangtung...</li></ol> <ul><li>In sum, I'm trying to verify and reconcile dates of treaties and leases, et al between all the '<b>See Also'</b> links at the bottom of the <a href="/wiki/Manchurian_Railway" class="mw-redirect" title="Manchurian Railway">Manchurian Railway</a>. These of course are also all relevant and important to the whole series of <a href="/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War" title="Russo-Japanese War">Russo-Japanese War</a> articles, and later <a href="/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War" title="Second Sino-Japanese War">Second Sino-Japanese Wars</a>, so I figured I'd take you up on your offer to help of a few weeks back. Pinning this kind of detail down can be important, so I welcome the help of someone with your language skills.</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Still User:Fabartus with new Signature: <a href="/wiki/User:Fabartus" title="User:Fabartus"><span style="color:blue;">Fra</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fabartus" title="User talk:Fabartus"><span style="color:green;">nkB</span></a> 9 July 2005 17:37 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Port_Arthur_etc" data-mw-thread-id="h-Port_Arthur_etc-2005-07-16T05:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Port_Arthur_etc-2005-07-16T05:54:00.000Z"></span>Port Arthur etc<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Port_Arthur_etc-2005-07-16T05:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Port Arthur etc"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fabartus-2005-07-16T05:54:00.000Z-Port_Arthur_etc"></span>In the interest of neatness and brevity, See: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline_of_the_Russo-Japanese_War&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Timeline of the Russo-Japanese War (page does not exist)">Talk:Timeline_of_the_Russo-Japanese_War</a>, where I took the former post and the new one! Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Fabartus" title="User:Fabartus"><span style="color:blue;">Fra</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fabartus" title="User talk:Fabartus"><span style="color:green;">nkB</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Fabartus-2005-07-16T05:54:00.000Z-Port_Arthur_etc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:54, 16 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fabartus-2005-07-16T05:54:00.000Z-Port_Arthur_etc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fabartus-2005-07-16T05:54:00.000Z-Port_Arthur_etc"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Aircraft_specifications_survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aircraft_specifications_survey-2005-07-18T00:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Aircraft_specifications_survey-2005-07-18T00:36:00.000Z"></span>Aircraft specifications survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Aircraft_specifications_survey-2005-07-18T00:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Aircraft specifications survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2005-07-18T00:36:00.000Z-Aircraft_specifications_survey"></span>Hi Pibwl! I would really appreciate your input in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aircraft/Specifications_survey" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft/Specifications survey">a survey</a> currently underway to help develop a revised version of WikiProject Aircraft's standard specifications section. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2005-07-18T00:36:00.000Z-Aircraft_specifications_survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 18 July 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2005-07-18T00:36:00.000Z-Aircraft_specifications_survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2005-07-18T00:36:00.000Z-Aircraft_specifications_survey"></span> </p><p>Czołem! Zastanawiam się jak dalece można pociągnąć Twój pomysł na tłumaczenie nazw własnych polskiego sprzętu na angielski. Na razie przygotowuję się do przeniesienia wszystkich samolotów RWD do, na przykład, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Rogalski_Wigura_Drzewiecki_Mark_14_%22Heron%22&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Rogalski Wigura Drzewiecki Mark 14 "Heron" (page does not exist)">Rogalski Wigura Drzewiecki Mark 14 "Heron"</a> (<a href="/wiki/RWD-14_Czapla" title="RWD-14 Czapla">RWD-14 Czapla</a>) i przeniesienia/zamiany <a href="/wiki/PZL.37_%C5%81o%C5%9B" title="PZL.37 Łoś">PZL.37 Łoś</a> na albo <a href="/w/index.php?title=SAW_Mark_37_%22Elk%22&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="SAW Mark 37 "Elk" (page does not exist)">SAW Mark 37 "Elk"</a>, albo po prostu <a href="/w/index.php?title=Mark_37_Medium_Bomber&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Mark 37 Medium Bomber (page does not exist)">Mark 37 Medium Bomber</a>. Masz jakiś pomysł co jeszcze można zmienić? <a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> 15:43, July 22, 2005 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Jak najbardziej serio. Patrz dyskusja przy okazji wymyślania nazwy na karabin Ur. <a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> 10:31, July 25, 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anti-tank_rifle_wz.35&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Anti-tank rifle wz.35 (page does not exist)">Talk:Anti-tank rifle wz.35</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Primo: w czym oryginalna nazwa jest gorsza od tej, którą raczyłeś wymyślić?</dd> <dd>Secundo: dlaczego polski sprzęt wojskowy jako jedyny ma być tłumaczony?</dd> <dd>Tertio: Dlaczego przeniosłeś artykuł poza procedurą?</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> 05:22, August 2, 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Aircraft_specs_policy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aircraft_specs_policy-2005-10-04T06:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Aircraft_specs_policy-2005-10-04T06:03:00.000Z"></span>Aircraft specs policy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Aircraft_specs_policy-2005-10-04T06:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Aircraft specs policy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ingoolemo-2005-10-04T06:03:00.000Z-Aircraft_specs_policy"></span>Several weeks ago, you voted in the WikiProject Aircraft Specifications Survey. One of the results of the survey was that the specifications for the various aircraft articles will now be displayed using a template. <a href="/wiki/User:Ericg" title="User:Ericg">Ericg</a> and I have just finished developing that template; a lengthier bulletin can be found on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Air" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Air">WT:Air</a> talkpage. Naturally, we will need to begin a drive to update the aircraft articles. However, several topics in the survey did reach establish consensus, and they need to be resolved before we implement the template. It is crticial that we make some conclusion, so that updating of the specs can resume as soon as possible. You can take part in the discussions <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft&action=edit&section=7">here</a>. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Ingoolemo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Ingoolemo"><span style="color:blue;">Ingoolemo</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ingoolemo" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ingoolemo"><span style="color:blue;"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Ingoolemo-2005-10-04T06:03:00.000Z-Aircraft_specs_policy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ingoolemo-2005-10-04T06:03:00.000Z-Aircraft_specs_policy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ingoolemo-2005-10-04T06:03:00.000Z-Aircraft_specs_policy"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Prawo_autorskie" data-mw-thread-id="h-Prawo_autorskie-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Prawo_autorskie-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z"></span>Prawo autorskie<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Prawo_autorskie-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Prawo autorskie"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Halibutt-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z-Prawo_autorskie"></span>Czołem! Kiedyś wgrałeś <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Breguet_14_Kij%C3%B3w.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Breguet 14 Kijów.jpg (page does not exist)">to zdjęcie</a> na polską wiki, a ja przegrałem je tutaj. Piotrus zwrócił mi uwagę, że sprawa ustawy z 1926 (i jej późniejszego brzmienia z 1935) wymaga nieco bardziej szczegółowego potraktowania, na przykład za pomocą stworzenia szablonu podobnego do <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:PD-Poland" title="Template:PD-Poland">PD-Poland</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. Czy masz może na podorędziu treść tych ustaw (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.msp.money.pl/akty_prawne/dzienniki_ustaw/ustawa;z;dnia;29;marca,dziennik,ustaw,1926,048,286.html">[2]</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.promulgatory.pl/?pro=DURP193503600026000001PL&view=txt">[3]</a>) lub znasz kogoś, kto ma do nich dostęp? <a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Halibutt-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z-Prawo_autorskie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Halibutt-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z-Prawo_autorskie"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Halibutt-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z-Prawo_autorskie"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Halibutt-2006-03-29T21:32:00.000Z-Halibutt-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z"></span>Wybacz, zapomniałem dać Ci znać że Piotrus już znalazł co trzeba. Ciągle nie miałem jeszcze czasu przysiąść nad tym kolosem i opracować co trzeba, ale postaram się w najbliższej przyszłości - chyba że Ty masz chwilę. A co do szablonu - najśmieszniejsze jest w nim to, że (oczywiście) został już raz czy dwa razy skasowany. Jako <i>divisive</i> :) <i><span style="color:#990011;">//</span></i><a href="/wiki/User:Halibutt" title="User:Halibutt">Halibu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halibutt" title="User talk:Halibutt">tt</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Halibutt-2006-03-29T21:32:00.000Z-Halibutt-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Halibutt-2006-03-29T21:32:00.000Z-Halibutt-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Halibutt-2006-03-29T21:32:00.000Z-Halibutt-2006-03-18T21:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Infobox" data-mw-thread-id="h-Infobox-2006-04-24T18:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Infobox-2006-04-24T18:39:00.000Z"></span>Infobox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Infobox-2006-04-24T18:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Infobox"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emt147-2006-04-24T18:39:00.000Z-Infobox"></span>There is a consensus discussion on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft#Infobox_Aicraft_consensus_discussion" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft#Infobox Aicraft consensus discussion</a> on adopting a non-specifications summary infobox for aircraft articles. Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks! - <a href="/wiki/User:Emt147" title="User:Emt147">Emt147</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emt147" title="User talk:Emt147"><small><sup>Burninate!</sup></small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Emt147-2006-04-24T18:39:00.000Z-Infobox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emt147-2006-04-24T18:39:00.000Z-Infobox"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emt147-2006-04-24T18:39:00.000Z-Infobox"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Battles_of_Narvik" data-mw-thread-id="h-Battles_of_Narvik-2006-05-29T01:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Battles_of_Narvik-2006-05-29T01:54:00.000Z"></span>Battles of Narvik<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Battles_of_Narvik-2006-05-29T01:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Battles of Narvik"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Inge-2006-05-29T01:54:00.000Z-Battles_of_Narvik"></span>Hello Pibwl! I am trying to raise some attention about <a href="/wiki/Battles_of_Narvik" title="Battles of Narvik">Battles of Narvik</a> at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Collaboration" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Collaboration">Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Collaboration</a> to see if that might help make it better. <a href="/wiki/User:Inge" title="User:Inge">Inge</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Inge-2006-05-29T01:54:00.000Z-Battles_of_Narvik" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 29 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Inge-2006-05-29T01:54:00.000Z-Battles_of_Narvik"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Inge-2006-05-29T01:54:00.000Z-Battles_of_Narvik"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Giulio_Cesare" data-mw-thread-id="h-Giulio_Cesare-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Giulio_Cesare-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z"></span>Giulio Cesare<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Giulio_Cesare-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Giulio Cesare"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z-Giulio_Cesare"></span>Thanks for your contribuition to the Giulio Cesare page ! I don't find small your modification, because I find that they clarify much the career in Russian service. I see that you're more active in aviation and Poland military history, and you make a good work (BTW, I find interesting the history of the wars immediately after WWI, especially that against Russia and Ukraine, I like non-trench warfare in WWI and interwar period, esp. when armoured cars are involved) <a href="/wiki/User:Dott.Piergiorgio" title="User:Dott.Piergiorgio">dott.Piergiorgio</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z-Giulio_Cesare" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 1 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z-Giulio_Cesare"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z-Giulio_Cesare"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-04T14:21:00.000Z-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the reply; I have looked a bit the site you point out; it's excellent, near par to bron pancerna (my benchmark for Polish military history sites in english) and very pleasant as choice of layout & colours, and I have happily added it to my bookmarks. I can point this site to the Italian NG of Military History ? <a href="/wiki/User:Dott.Piergiorgio" title="User:Dott.Piergiorgio">dott.Piergiorgio</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-04T14:21:00.000Z-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-04T14:21:00.000Z-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-04T14:21:00.000Z-Dott.Piergiorgio-2006-07-01T22:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="E1_Tracer_photo" data-mw-thread-id="h-E1_Tracer_photo-2006-07-03T21:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-E1_Tracer_photo-2006-07-03T21:59:00.000Z"></span>E1 Tracer photo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-E1_Tracer_photo-2006-07-03T21:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: E1 Tracer photo"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Newton-2006-07-03T21:59:00.000Z-E1_Tracer_photo"></span>Yes that was one I took so thanks for the heads up. I've made sure I'm credited and asked the uploader to properly follow the GFDL and credit the author in future. <a href="/wiki/User:David_Newton" title="User:David Newton">David Newton</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-David_Newton-2006-07-03T21:59:00.000Z-E1_Tracer_photo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Newton-2006-07-03T21:59:00.000Z-E1_Tracer_photo"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Newton-2006-07-03T21:59:00.000Z-E1_Tracer_photo"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other-2006-07-17T16:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other-2006-07-17T16:19:00.000Z"></span>Image:MD450 Ouragon 1.jpg and other<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other-2006-07-17T16:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Image:MD450 Ouragon 1.jpg and other"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stahlkocher1-2006-07-17T16:19:00.000Z-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other"></span>Hi Pibwl, i took the images in the brussel military museum. There may always be restrictions if you took a picture of goods which are not your own and you did not create. Its just a reminder. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Stahlkocher1" title="User:Stahlkocher1">Stahlkocher</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Stahlkocher1-2006-07-17T16:19:00.000Z-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 17 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stahlkocher1-2006-07-17T16:19:00.000Z-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stahlkocher1-2006-07-17T16:19:00.000Z-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stahlkocher1-2006-07-17T16:27:00.000Z-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other"></span>I put in the source. It was my mistake. Thank you! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Stahlkocher1" title="User:Stahlkocher1">Stahlkocher</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Stahlkocher1-2006-07-17T16:27:00.000Z-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stahlkocher1-2006-07-17T16:27:00.000Z-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stahlkocher1-2006-07-17T16:27:00.000Z-Image:MD450_Ouragon_1.jpg_and_other"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions-2006-08-01T14:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions-2006-08-01T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for your Poland-related contributions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions-2006-08-01T14:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Thank you for your Poland-related contributions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table width="75%"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border-style:solid; border-width:1; border-color:Red;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2006-08-01T14:03:00.000Z-Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Poland_(with_coat_of_arms).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Flag_of_Poland_%28with_coat_of_arms%29.svg/150px-Flag_of_Poland_%28with_coat_of_arms%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="94" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Flag_of_Poland_%28with_coat_of_arms%29.svg/225px-Flag_of_Poland_%28with_coat_of_arms%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Flag_of_Poland_%28with_coat_of_arms%29.svg/300px-Flag_of_Poland_%28with_coat_of_arms%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1280" data-file-height="800"/></a></span> </td> <td><center>Hello <b>Pibwl</b>! Thank you for your contributions related to <a href="/wiki/Poland" title="Poland">Poland</a>. You may be interested in visiting <a href="/wiki/Portal:Poland/Poland-related_Wikipedia_notice_board" class="mw-redirect" title="Portal:Poland/Poland-related Wikipedia notice board">Portal:Poland/Poland-related Wikipedia notice board</a>, <a href="/wiki/Portal_talk:Poland/Poland-related_Wikipedia_notice_board" class="mw-redirect" title="Portal talk:Poland/Poland-related Wikipedia notice board">joining our discussions</a> and <a href="/wiki/Portal:Poland/New_article_announcements" title="Portal:Poland/New article announcements">sharing your creations with us</a>.<br/></center> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table><p>--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus"> Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus </a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2006-08-01T14:03:00.000Z-Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2006-08-01T14:03:00.000Z-Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2006-08-01T14:03:00.000Z-Thank_you_for_your_Poland-related_contributions"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Alexander_Marinesko" data-mw-thread-id="h-Alexander_Marinesko-2006-09-16T21:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Alexander_Marinesko-2006-09-16T21:12:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Alexander_Marinesko" title="Alexander Marinesko">Alexander Marinesko</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Alexander_Marinesko-2006-09-16T21:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Alexander Marinesko"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dahn-2006-09-16T21:12:00.000Z-Alexander_Marinesko"></span>Hi, Pibwl. A while back, you have called for a clarification on Marinesko's ethnicity. I have left a comment on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Alexander_Marinesko" title="Talk:Alexander Marinesko">Talk:Alexander Marinesko</a>, and I would like to hear your opinion. Dziękuję. <a href="/wiki/User:Dahn" title="User:Dahn">Dahn</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Dahn-2006-09-16T21:12:00.000Z-Alexander_Marinesko" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dahn-2006-09-16T21:12:00.000Z-Alexander_Marinesko"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dahn-2006-09-16T21:12:00.000Z-Alexander_Marinesko"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: DYK"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Updated_DYK_query.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="71" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/28_September" class="mw-redirect" title="28 September">28 September</a>, <a href="/wiki/2006" title="2006">2006</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/PWS-33_Wy%C5%BCe%C5%82" title="PWS-33 Wyżeł">PWS-33 Wyżeł</a></b></i>, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">"Did you know?" talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_2-2006-11-13T17:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_2-2006-11-13T17:10:00.000Z"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_2-2006-11-13T17:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: DYK"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paaskynen-2006-11-13T17:10:00.000Z-DYK_2"></span><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Updated_DYK_query.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="71" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/28_September" class="mw-redirect" title="28 September">28 September</a>, <a href="/wiki/2006" title="2006">2006</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/PWS-10" title="PWS-10">PWS-10</a></b></i>, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">"Did you know?" talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Updated_DYK_query.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="71" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/2_October" class="mw-redirect" title="2 October">2 October</a>, <a href="/wiki/2006" title="2006">2006</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/B%C5%BB-1_GIL" title="BŻ-1 GIL">BŻ-1 GIL</a></b></i>, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">"Did you know?" talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Hello Piwl, </p><p>In reply to your message about the picture of the HNLMS Jacob van Heemskerk. I do not remember the exact site where I got it, but it was a site of the Royal Netherlands Navy. The pictures can be used provided the source (Koninklijke Marine) is attributed.<a href="/wiki/User:Paaskynen" title="User:Paaskynen">Paaskynen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Paaskynen-2006-11-13T17:10:00.000Z-DYK_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paaskynen-2006-11-13T17:10:00.000Z-DYK_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paaskynen-2006-11-13T17:10:00.000Z-DYK_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Museum_ships" data-mw-thread-id="h-Museum_ships-2007-01-24T05:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Museum_ships-2007-01-24T05:52:00.000Z"></span>Museum ships<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Museum_ships-2007-01-24T05:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Museum ships"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MadMaxDog-2007-01-24T05:52:00.000Z-Museum_ships"></span>Thanks for adding these ships (I did some minor tidying up loose ends as well). When I created this as a formal table, I had already noted upon the fact that there weren't enough non-US one's in there. Good work. <a href="/wiki/User:MadMaxDog" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MadMaxDog">MadMaxDog</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-MadMaxDog-2007-01-24T05:52:00.000Z-Museum_ships" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MadMaxDog-2007-01-24T05:52:00.000Z-Museum_ships"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MadMaxDog-2007-01-24T05:52:00.000Z-Museum_ships"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Museum_Ships_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Museum_Ships_2-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Museum_Ships_2-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Museum_Ship" class="mw-redirect" title="Museum Ship">Museum Ships</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Museum_Ships_2-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Museum Ships"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pibwl-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z-Museum_Ships_2"></span>Thanks... But <i>Belfast</i> definitely was a Light Cruiser :-) <a href="/wiki/User:Pibwl" title="User:Pibwl">Pibwl</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">←«</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Pibwl-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z-Museum_Ships_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pibwl-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z-Museum_Ships_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pibwl-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z-Museum_Ships_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MadMaxDog-2007-01-25T05:56:00.000Z-Pibwl-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z"></span>"HMS Belfast, the Royal Navy's heaviest ever cruiser," doesn't quite seem to agree with your statement... <a href="/wiki/User:MadMaxDog" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MadMaxDog">MadMaxDog</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-MadMaxDog-2007-01-25T05:56:00.000Z-Pibwl-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 25 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MadMaxDog-2007-01-25T05:56:00.000Z-Pibwl-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MadMaxDog-2007-01-25T05:56:00.000Z-Pibwl-2007-01-24T20:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paaskynen-2007-01-26T20:26:00.000Z-MadMaxDog-2007-01-25T05:56:00.000Z"></span>Whether a cruiser is considered a heavy or a light cruiser depends on the calibre of her main battery; 6 inch guns make it a light cruiser. The displacement of the ship is of secondary importance. The County class heavy cruiser of the UK Navy had a displacement of 13 000 tons so the statement of the Belfast being the heaviest is disputable. <small>—The preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sign_your_posts_on_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages">unsigned</a> comment was added by <a href="/wiki/User:Paaskynen" title="User:Paaskynen">Paaskynen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paaskynen" title="User talk:Paaskynen">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paaskynen" title="Special:Contributions/Paaskynen">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Paaskynen-2007-01-26T20:26:00.000Z-MadMaxDog-2007-01-25T05:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC)</a>.<span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paaskynen-2007-01-26T20:26:00.000Z-MadMaxDog-2007-01-25T05:56:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paaskynen-2007-01-26T20:26:00.000Z-MadMaxDog-2007-01-25T05:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185" data-mw-thread-id="h-Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185-2007-02-07T23:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185-2007-02-07T23:49:00.000Z"></span>Problematic ISBN in <a href="/wiki/Polikarpov_I-180" title="Polikarpov I-180">Polikarpov I-180</a> and <a href="/wiki/Polikarpov_I-185" title="Polikarpov I-185">Polikarpov I-185</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185-2007-02-07T23:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Problematic ISBN in Polikarpov I-180 and Polikarpov I-185"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keesiewonder-2007-02-07T23:49:00.000Z-Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185"></span>Please see my query at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Polikarpov_I-180" title="Talk:Polikarpov I-180">Talk:Polikarpov_I-180</a>. Thanks for whatever help you can give. <a href="/wiki/User:Keesiewonder" title="User:Keesiewonder">Keesiewonder</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Keesiewonder" title="User talk:Keesiewonder">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Keesiewonder-2007-02-07T23:49:00.000Z-Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keesiewonder-2007-02-07T23:49:00.000Z-Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keesiewonder-2007-02-07T23:49:00.000Z-Problematic_ISBN_in_Polikarpov_I-180_and_Polikarpov_I-185"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Aviation_Newsletter_delivery" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aviation_Newsletter_delivery-2007-03-11T17:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Aviation_Newsletter_delivery-2007-03-11T17:13:00.000Z"></span>Aviation Newsletter delivery<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Aviation_Newsletter_delivery-2007-03-11T17:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Aviation Newsletter delivery"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trevor_MacInnis-2007-03-11T17:13:00.000Z-Aviation_Newsletter_delivery"></span>The <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation/Outreach/Newsletter_March_2007" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Outreach/Newsletter March 2007">March 2007 issue</a></b> of the Aviation WikiProject newsletter has been published. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Trevor_MacInnis" title="User:Trevor MacInnis">Trevor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trevor_MacInnis" title="User talk:Trevor MacInnis">MacInnis</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Trevor_MacInnis" title="Special:Contributions/Trevor MacInnis">Contribs</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Trevor_MacInnis-2007-03-11T17:13:00.000Z-Aviation_Newsletter_delivery" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trevor_MacInnis-2007-03-11T17:13:00.000Z-Aviation_Newsletter_delivery"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trevor_MacInnis-2007-03-11T17:13:00.000Z-Aviation_Newsletter_delivery"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons-2007-04-06T07:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons-2007-04-06T07:43:00.000Z"></span>Commons<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons-2007-04-06T07:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Commons"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stahlkocher1-2007-04-06T07:43:00.000Z-Commons"></span>Hi Pibwl, did i made a mistake? Normaly i use <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/commonshelper.php">commonshelper</a> today, but earlier i made it by hand. Please let me now, i will fix it! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Stahlkocher1" title="User:Stahlkocher1">Stahlkocher</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Stahlkocher1-2007-04-06T07:43:00.000Z-Commons" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stahlkocher1-2007-04-06T07:43:00.000Z-Commons"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stahlkocher1-2007-04-06T07:43:00.000Z-Commons"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="LWD_Szpak" data-mw-thread-id="h-LWD_Szpak-2007-04-24T01:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-LWD_Szpak-2007-04-24T01:47:00.000Z"></span>LWD Szpak<span data-mw-comment-end="h-LWD_Szpak-2007-04-24T01:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: LWD Szpak"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Howcheng-2007-04-24T01:47:00.000Z-LWD_Szpak"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/24_April" class="mw-redirect" title="24 April">24 April</a>, <a href="/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/LWD_Szpak" title="LWD Szpak">LWD Szpak</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">"Did you know?" talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> --<span style="font-family:Verdana;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Howcheng" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Howcheng"><span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span></a></b> <small>{<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Howcheng">chat</a>}</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Howcheng-2007-04-24T01:47:00.000Z-LWD_Szpak" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Howcheng-2007-04-24T01:47:00.000Z-LWD_Szpak"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Howcheng-2007-04-24T01:47:00.000Z-LWD_Szpak"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="References" data-mw-thread-id="h-References-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-References-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z"></span>References<span data-mw-comment-end="h-References-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: References"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z-References"></span>Please add references to your articles, I can't nominate <a href="/wiki/Boles%C5%82aw_Orli%C5%84ski" title="Bolesław Orliński">Bolesław Orliński</a> for DYK because of lack of references.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus"> Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus </a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z-References" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z-References"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z-References"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2007-05-01T22:26:00.000Z-Piotrus-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z"></span>Dzięki. Na początek websity też wystarczą - a DYK wymaga źródeł. Pamiętaj, że możesz też sam siebie nominować tam, warto rozpowszechniać wiedze o naszym malym zakatku :) --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus"> Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus </a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2007-05-01T22:26:00.000Z-Piotrus-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2007-05-01T22:26:00.000Z-Piotrus-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2007-05-01T22:26:00.000Z-Piotrus-2007-05-01T04:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Polish_aircraft_requests" data-mw-thread-id="h-Polish_aircraft_requests-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Polish_aircraft_requests-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z"></span>Polish aircraft requests<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Polish_aircraft_requests-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Polish aircraft requests"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z-Polish_aircraft_requests"></span>Hi again Pibwl! I don't know if you do requests, but I hope I can persude you to contribute the <a href="/wiki/PZL-105" class="mw-redirect" title="PZL-105">PZL-105</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=PZL-126&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="PZL-126 (page does not exist)">PZL-126</a> sometime soon and help fill a couple of gaps in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Aircraft_encyclopedia_topics" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Aircraft encyclopedia topics">missing aircraft list</a>. Cheers --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z-Polish_aircraft_requests" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z-Polish_aircraft_requests"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z-Polish_aircraft_requests"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-04T21:53:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the PZL-105. You can read about the PZL-126 <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://awiacja.republika.pl/pzl-okecie.htm#PZL-126">here</a> if you're interested :). Thanks also for spotting the KZ III - if you ever see something like that on the Missing Aircraft lists, it would be a big favour if you could add a redirect to the article. Cheers --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2007-05-04T21:53:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-04T21:53:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-04T21:53:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-05-03T23:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PZL-106_Kruk" data-mw-thread-id="h-PZL-106_Kruk-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PZL-106_Kruk-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z"></span>PZL-106 Kruk<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PZL-106_Kruk-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: PZL-106 Kruk"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Howcheng-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/7_May" class="mw-redirect" title="7 May">7 May</a>, <a href="/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/PZL-106_Kruk" title="PZL-106 Kruk">PZL-106 Kruk</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">"Did you know?" talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> --<span style="font-family:Verdana;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Howcheng" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Howcheng"><span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span></a></b> <small>{<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Howcheng">chat</a>}</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Howcheng-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Howcheng-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Howcheng-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chrislk02-2007-05-07T12:24:00.000Z-Howcheng-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z"></span>I am glad to see you writing or expanding articles on aircraft! Keep up the good work. Are you a pilot? <a href="/wiki/User:Chrislk02" title="User:Chrislk02">-- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Chrislk02-2007-05-07T12:24:00.000Z-Howcheng-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chrislk02-2007-05-07T12:24:00.000Z-Howcheng-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chrislk02-2007-05-07T12:24:00.000Z-Howcheng-2007-05-07T06:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-13T21:04:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"></span>Good but I'm wondering why all sorts of coplex categories are being created . I've just seen Czech aicraft for instance and there must be over 5o cateories most of which only have one article in each. It is much more user friendly to have categories more condensed <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld (page does not exist)"> <span style="color:darkblue;"><i><b>♦ Sir Blofeld ♦</b></i></span></a> <sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ernst Stavro Blofeld (page does not exist)"> <span style="font-size:x-small; color:Purple;"><b>"Expecting you"</b></span> </a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld" title="Special:Contributions/Ernst Stavro Blofeld"><span style="font-size:x-small; color:Grey;"><b>Contribs</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-13T21:04:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-13T21:04:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-13T21:04:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-13T21:06:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"></span>E,g why not just use <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Polish_aircraft_1970-1979&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Polish aircraft 1970-1979 (page does not exist)">Category:Polish aircraft 1970-1979</a>? If you want to distingiuh types of planes then lists should be created rather than complicated categories. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld (page does not exist)"> <span style="color:darkblue;"><i><b>♦ Sir Blofeld ♦</b></i></span></a> <sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ernst Stavro Blofeld (page does not exist)"> <span style="font-size:x-small; color:Purple;"><b>"Expecting you"</b></span> </a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld" title="Special:Contributions/Ernst Stavro Blofeld"><span style="font-size:x-small; color:Grey;"><b>Contribs</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-13T21:06:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-13T21:06:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-13T21:06:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-14T14:23:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"></span>If there will be enough eventually for the categories of course that will be fine. They should have the expand tag in thwem until they develop <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld (page does not exist)"> <span style="color:darkblue;"><i><b>♦ Sir Blofeld ♦</b></i></span></a> <sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ernst Stavro Blofeld (page does not exist)"> <span style="font-size:x-small; color:Purple;"><b>"Expecting you"</b></span> </a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld" title="Special:Contributions/Ernst Stavro Blofeld"><span style="font-size:x-small; color:Grey;"><b>Contribs</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-14T14:23:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-14T14:23:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld-2007-05-14T14:23:00.000Z-PZL-106_Kruk"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="LWS-6_Żubr" data-mw-thread-id="h-LWS-6_Żubr-2007-05-25T20:24:00.000Z"><span id="LWS-6_.C5.BBubr"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-LWS-6_Żubr-2007-05-25T20:24:00.000Z"></span>LWS-6 Żubr<span data-mw-comment-end="h-LWS-6_Żubr-2007-05-25T20:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: LWS-6 Żubr"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-25T20:24:00.000Z-LWS-6_Żubr"></span>Problem polega na tym, że o służbie w Luftwaffe mówią wyłącznie polskie źródła. Podają nawet nazwę szkoły pilotażu, która nie wytrzymuje konfrontacji ze źródłami niemieckimi - w Schleiβheim była szkoła pilotów myśliwskich (zresztą stara, jeszcze z czasów "tajnej Luftwaffe"), a Żubr miał być używany w szkole ślepego pilotażu dla pilotów bombowców. Niech sobie prośba o przypis wisi, może ktoś powiesi tam jakieś tajemne zachodnie źródło, które by to potwierdziło. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-25T20:24:00.000Z-LWS-6_Żubr" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:24, 25 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-25T20:24:00.000Z-LWS-6_Żubr"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-25T20:24:00.000Z-LWS-6_Żubr"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Maiden_flight" data-mw-thread-id="h-Maiden_flight-2007-05-25T20:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Maiden_flight-2007-05-25T20:44:00.000Z"></span>Maiden flight<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Maiden_flight-2007-05-25T20:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Maiden flight"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-25T20:44:00.000Z-Maiden_flight"></span>This date was chosen because it is single and unambiguous. There are some aircraft that have careers that spanned many decades; categorising 1939 aircraft into 1930-1939 produces a consistent result - otherwise where do we draw the line? What about aircraft with a maiden flight in December 1938 but used in the 1940s and 1950s? It's an arbitrary rule, but it should be consistent... --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2007-05-25T20:44:00.000Z-Maiden_flight" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-25T20:44:00.000Z-Maiden_flight"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-25T20:44:00.000Z-Maiden_flight"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PZL.43" data-mw-thread-id="h-PZL.43-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PZL.43-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z"></span>PZL.43<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PZL.43-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: PZL.43"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z-PZL.43"></span>Na przykład na podstawie monografii Karasia wydanej przez AJ-Press i napisanej przez Tomka Kopańskiego i Krzysztofa Sikorę. PZL.43 był eksportową wersją Karasia, nie kompletnie nową maszyną. <i>De facto</i> Bułgarzy w 1936 roku zakupili "PZL.23 <i>série pour l'etranger</i>", a nie "PZL.43". Już większy problem byłby z PZL.42, który początkowo był przebudowanym Karasiem, dopiero później otrzymał oznaczenie PZL.42 i w tym przypadku nie mam pewności, czy miał zachowaną nazwę Karaś. Być może coś w tej materii wyjaśni drugi tom Polskich Konstrukcji Lotniczych Andrzeja Glassa. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z-PZL.43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z-PZL.43"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z-PZL.43"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T07:49:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z"></span>Z oficjalnymi nazwami możemy nie dojść do ładu nigdy, bo i przed wojną specjalnego porządku w tym wszystkim nie było. Popatrz chociażby na stateczniki Karasi - niedługo przed wojną remontowane maszyny A i B zaczęły mieć nanoszone nowe oznaczenia, odpowiednio "Karaś I" i "Karaś II". Teraz pytanie za 100 punktów - czy PZL.23B nazywał się Karaś, czy może jednak Karaś II? Jeśli to drugie, to jak rozumieć oznaczenie "LWS-7 Mewa II" czy "PZL.53 Jastrząb II"? No i czemu w przypadku Karasia utrzymano oznaczenie PZL.23, a w przypadku Jastrzębia nadano nowy numer? Bez pół litra chyba się nie da...</dd> <dd>Jeśli chodzi o PZL.43, to według Kopańskiego do Bułgarii dostarczono 5 samolotów - cztery po kampanii wrześniowej i piąty w październiku 1940 po badaniach w Rechlinie. Chyba w artykule napisałem coś nie do końca klarownie. Zasadniczo książka z 2004 roku wydana przez Stratusa jest nowym wydaniem monografii AJ-Pressu, więc jeśli w obu tych pozycjach są rozbieżności, to sam nie wiem która jest prawidłowa. Jeśli chodzi o nowe źródła, z utęsknieniem czekam na Stratusa, aż wydadzą II tom książki Glassa. Mam z nimi kontakt i to będzie dzieło naprawdę epokowe, więc zakładam że będziemy mieć wyjaśnionych sporo kwestii związanych z maszynami PZL. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T07:49:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T07:49:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T07:49:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-27T07:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T21:20:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T07:49:00.000Z"></span>W teorii nowsza książka tego samego autora powinna być bardziej aktualna, ale w praktyce być nie musi i w Polsce często nie jest. Musiałbym znaleźć czas i porównać oba wydania, żeby sprawdzić aktualizację danych. Jeśli dobrze kojarzę, to ta nowsza książka o Karasiu jest identyczna z wersją anglojęzyczną wydaną przez Mushroom Model Publications - tę gdzieś powinienem mieć i jak mi się ją uda wygrzebać, to posprawdzam dane. Z kolei mimo mojego wielkiego szacunku do Cynka, to jego publikacje są w środowisku autorów lotniczych krytykowane za brak nowych badań i powielanie starszych informacji. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T21:20:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T07:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T21:20:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T07:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T21:20:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T07:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-29T06:36:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T21:20:00.000Z"></span>Tylko że w tym samym artykule Glassa i Mazura masz kolejne potwierdzenie obecnej edycji - relację Czesława Maliniaka. Pisze on o 3 maszynach, które na jego oczach zostały uszkodzone/zniszczone podczas bombardowania, oraz o kolejnych 5 stojących na Bielanach, które przejęli. W przypisie jest informacja, że w PZL były w tym czasie 2 samoloty, ale nie ma korekty dotyczącej 5 maszyn z Bielan. Dawałoby to 7-8 samolotów, a nie 6. Tak naprawdę mam wrażenie, że żaden z autorów nie przykłada wagi do takich detali :o/ <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-29T06:36:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T21:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-29T06:36:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T21:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-29T06:36:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-28T21:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-30T14:32:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-29T06:36:00.000Z"></span>Jak się dogrzebię do odpowiedniej książki, to posprawdzam dokładnie. Myślę, że najsensowniej będzie napisać o obu wersjach z zaznaczeniem, które źródło o której wersji wydarzeń mówi. Raz, że nie będzie revertów do jednej edycji lub drugiej. Dwa, że pokażemy problem z danymi. Trzy, że w spokoju doczekamy do książki Glassa, która (mam nadzieję) tego typu zagadki nam powyjaśnia. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-30T14:32:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-29T06:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-30T14:32:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-29T06:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-30T14:32:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-05-29T06:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="More_missing_aircraft_requests" data-mw-thread-id="h-More_missing_aircraft_requests-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_missing_aircraft_requests-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z"></span>More missing aircraft requests<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_missing_aircraft_requests-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: More missing aircraft requests"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z-More_missing_aircraft_requests"></span>Hi again - next week, my trudge through the Missing Aircraft will bring me to the <a href="/wiki/Bartel_BM-1_Maryla" class="mw-redirect" title="Bartel BM-1 Maryla">Bartel BM-1 Maryla</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bartel_BM-2" class="mw-redirect" title="Bartel BM-2">BM-2</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bartel_BM-4" class="mw-redirect" title="Bartel BM-4">BM-4</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Bartel_BM-5" class="mw-redirect" title="Bartel BM-5">BM-5</a>. I wonder if you could help out with any of these? (I see that pl.wikipedia already has the BM-4 and BM-5). Cheers --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z-More_missing_aircraft_requests" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z-More_missing_aircraft_requests"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z-More_missing_aircraft_requests"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T22:21:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z"></span>Thanks very much! I'll skip over these if I get to them before you come back. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T22:21:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T22:21:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T22:21:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-05-31T21:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2007-06-10T21:33:00.000Z-More_missing_aircraft_requests"></span>Good to see you back - and more photos are always good (I think photos are a big priority for WP:Aircraft) Cheers --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2007-06-10T21:33:00.000Z-More_missing_aircraft_requests" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2007-06-10T21:33:00.000Z-More_missing_aircraft_requests"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2007-06-10T21:33:00.000Z-More_missing_aircraft_requests"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Obrazki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Obrazki-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Obrazki-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z"></span>Obrazki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Obrazki-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Obrazki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z-Obrazki"></span>Jak chcesz mieć większe obrazki, to zmień ustawienia użytkownika. Wklepywanie wymiarów obrazka na sztywno uniemożliwia ich zmianę przez użytkowników, a to godzi w dostępność i użyteczność artykułów. Dyskusji na ten temat było sporo, możesz zresztą podpytać o to któregokolwiek z administratorów zajmujących się projektem. Generalnie przyjęto zasadę, że jeśli ktoś chce sobie obejrzeć większe obrazki, to niech sobie zmieni ustawienia albo niech klika na zdjęcie - IMHO słusznie. Po-2 jest w polskich barwach i jako taki leci do sekcji Operators, gdzie wstawiane są zdjęcia samolotów w barwach obcych użytkowników. Jak znam życie, odpowiednie zdjęcie z bombami jest albo w Commons, albo w lokalnych wersjach, skąd można je do Commons przenieść. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z-Obrazki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z-Obrazki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z-Obrazki"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z"></span>No to lecą odpowiedzi:</dd></dl> <ol><li>Jak masz fotkę CSS-13, to wrzuć do "Operators", jeśli nie - niech Po-2LNB tam zostanie.</li> <li>Jeśli koniecznie chcesz mieć <a href="/w/index.php?title=Aeroklub_PRL&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Aeroklub PRL (page does not exist)">Aeroklub PRL</a>, to zrób redirect do <a href="/wiki/Aeroklub_Polski" class="mw-redirect" title="Aeroklub Polski">Aeroklub Polski</a>. Tak naprawdę nie ma to jednak większego sensu, bo przecież nie wpisujemy przecież, że MiG-19 był używany przez <a href="/w/index.php?title=WLiOPK&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="WLiOPK (page does not exist)">WLiOPK</a>, tylko przez <a href="/wiki/Polish_Air_Force" title="Polish Air Force">Polish Air Force</a>. Informacja, że w latach tych i tych instytucja/formacja była zwana tak i tak, powinna być umieszczona w artykule, nie ma sensu mnożyć bytów ponad potrzeby. Podobnie w sekcji "Operators" wpisujemy konkretnych użytkowników, a nie coś takiego jak "Polish civilian aviation". To ostatnie jest kompletnie nieokreślone i tak naprawdę nic w tej sekcji nie mówi, więc będzie albo kasowane przez innych, albo zmieniane przeze mnie na Aeroklub.</li> <li>Default users mogą sobie kliknąć na miniaturkę zdjęcia, jeśli czegoś nie widzą. W większości przypadków i tak trzeba klikać, bo pełne zdjęcia są dużo lepsze niż wszelkiej wielkości miniaturki. Wstawianie sztywnych wymiarów zdjęć skończy się albo ich usunięciem przeze mnie, albo zgłoszeniem Twoich działań do któregoś z adminów i upomnieniem - w przypadku wyjątkowego uporu: banem. Zasady dotyczące miniaturek są tutaj określone od dawna i wszyscy się ich trzymają, więc szkoda Twojego i mojego czasu na takie zabawy. Pamiętaj też, że wstawiając sztywny rozmiar miniaturek uniemożliwiasz innym ich skalowanie według ustawień użytkownika, a to już działanie wbrew Internautom. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-16T14:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ol> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T21:20:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z"></span>To lecimy dalej:</dd></dl> <ol><li><a href="/wiki/Aeroklub_Polski" class="mw-redirect" title="Aeroklub Polski">Aeroklub Polski</a> to nazwa własna, "Polish Aero Club" może być zrozumiany jako "jakiśtam aeroklub w Polsce" - to po pierwsze. Po drugie: tak, jak nie tłumaczy się <a href="/wiki/Luftwaffe" title="Luftwaffe">Luftwaffe</a> na <i>German Air Force</i>, nie trzeba też tłumaczyć nazwy <i><a href="/wiki/Aeroklub_Polski" class="mw-redirect" title="Aeroklub Polski">Aeroklub Polski</a></i> w linkach, wystarczy w docelowym artykule. Zresztą IMHO powinien zostać on przeniesiony właśnie pod <a href="/wiki/Aeroklub_Polski" class="mw-redirect" title="Aeroklub Polski">Aeroklub Polski</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Polish_Aero_Club" title="Polish Aero Club">Polish Aero Club</a> powinien być redirectem.</li> <li>Sekcja Operators to m.in. moja działka i w niej stawiamy na równi wszystkich użytkowników. Siły powietrzne nie są ważniejsze od aeroklubów, a wielkie linie lotnicze nie są ważniejsze od lokalnego przewoźnika z dwiema maszynami.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Polish_Air_Ambulance_Service" class="mw-redirect" title="Polish Air Ambulance Service">Polish Air Ambulance Service</a> - o ile wiem, mamy w Polsce tylko Lotnicze Pogotowie Ratunkowe, tłumaczenie i link spokojnie można zmienić. Przydałby się pewnie artykuł etc., ale na to nie mam czasu.</li> <li>Jeśli chodzi o zdjęcia, to nadal nie rozumiesz podstawowej rzeczy - miniaturki nie mają 180px szerokości, ale mają tyle, ile sobie ustawił użytkownik. Chcesz mieć większe, to sobie zmień, ale nie decyduj za innych, bo Twoje widzimisię nie może kolidować z prywatnym widzimisię poszczególnych użytkowników. Przy ustawieniach defaultowych każdy może sobie ustawić wedle własnego życzenia, wstawiając na sztywno 250px odbierasz wszystkim możliwość ustawienia np. 300px czy 100px, bo mają duże albo małe monitory, albo mają taki kaprys. Oczywiście możesz wstawiać sztywne rozmiary zdjęć, ale musisz liczyć się z tym, że po pierwsze zrobię reverty, po drugie zaraportuję to do adminów. Z żadnym z nich tej kwestii nie wyjaśnisz, bo była wałkowana w projektach lotniczych już szereg razy i skończy się na tym, co mamy teraz. Jeśli mimo dyskusji będziesz wstawiał sztywny wymiar fotek, skończy się banem - IIRC już takie przypadki były. Jedynymi wyjątkami są zdjęcia w infoboksach (co jest zrozumiałe) oraz mapy z krajami użytkowników i rzuty 3D. Chcesz - próbuj to zmienić, ale szanse masz znikome, a przeciwników zdecydowaną większość wśród zarządzających projektem. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T21:20:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T21:20:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T21:20:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ol></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T08:22:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z"></span>No to po kolei: <ol><li>W przypadku <a href="/wiki/LOT_Polish_Airlines" title="LOT Polish Airlines">LOT Polish Airlines</a> artykuł powinien zostać nazwany <a href="/wiki/Polskie_Linie_Lotnicze_LOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Polskie Linie Lotnicze LOT">Polskie Linie Lotnicze LOT</a>, ale ktoś popełnił identyczny błąd, jak Visior z przeniesieniem Aeroklubu pod nazwę angielską. Nb. nazwa angielska jest IMHO pisana z błędem, bo słowo "polski" w nazwie AP nie pochodzi od przymiotnika <i>polski</i>, ale od rzeczownika <i>Polska</i>. W takim wypadku nazwa powinna lecieć mniej więcej <i>The Aero Club of the Poland</i>, przez analogię do używanego dawniej <i>The Aero Club of the Polish Peoples Republic</i>. Last but not least jak sobie spojrzysz na stronie FAI na <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.fai.org/fai_members/details.asp?country=55">dane kontaktowe dotyczące Polski</a>, zobaczysz nazwę <i>Aeroklub Polski</i>, a nie tłumaczenie na angielski czy francuski. Nie musimy być świętsi od papieża i dowodem na to niech będzie choćby <a href="/wiki/Aerom%C3%A9xico" title="Aeroméxico">Aeroméxico</a>, <a href="/wiki/Aeroflot" title="Aeroflot">Aeroflot</a>, <a href="/wiki/Det_Norske_Luftfartselskap" class="mw-redirect" title="Det Norske Luftfartselskap">Det Norske Luftfartselskap</a>, <a href="/wiki/Linjeflyg" title="Linjeflyg">Linjeflyg</a>, <a href="/wiki/L%27Avion" title="L'Avion">L'Avion</a>, <a href="/wiki/Svensk_Interkontinental_Lufttrafik" class="mw-redirect" title="Svensk Interkontinental Lufttrafik">Svensk Interkontinental Lufttrafik</a>, <a href="/wiki/Svenska_Lufttrafik" class="mw-redirect" title="Svenska Lufttrafik">Svenska Lufttrafik</a>, <a href="/wiki/Union_des_Transports_A%C3%A9riens" class="mw-redirect" title="Union des Transports Aériens">Union des Transports Aériens</a> czy <a href="/wiki/Union_des_Transports_A%C3%A9riens_de_Guin%C3%A9e" class="mw-redirect" title="Union des Transports Aériens de Guinée">Union des Transports Aériens de Guinée</a>, których to nazw nikt nie tłumaczy na angielski, choć większość wyglądałaby doskonale.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Polish_Air_Force" title="Polish Air Force">Polish Air Force</a> jest czymś kompletnie innym, niż artykuł o PLL LOT. Polskie lotnictwo wojskowe miało w ciągu 80 lat istnienia wiele nazw, a przez pewien czas operowało także pod nazwą Polish Air Force. W tym wypadku taki tytuł artykułu jest pewnego rodzaju disambigiem, bo nie da się używać jednej sensownej nazwy polskiej, choćbyśmy nawet bardzo chcieli.</li> <li>Aeroklub Polski istnieje od 1919 roku, a od 1920 roku jest członkiem FAI. Fakt, że od 1921 stosowano nazwę Aeroklub Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej, a w latach 1957-1990 Aeroklub Polskiej Rzeczypospolitej Ludowej niczego tak naprawdę nie zmienia, bo ciągłość AP została zachowana. Zresztą w artykule jest kolejny błąd, bo Aeroklub Polski pod różnymi nazwami to jedna i ta sama instytucja, a nie jakieś kolejno powstające i upadające twory. Nazwa Aeroklub Polski na Wikipedii powinna być stosowana dokładnie na takich samych zasadach, na jakich stosowana jest nazwa Polish Air Force - niezależnie od faktycznej formalnoprawnej nazwy obowiązującej w danym okresie. Pomijam już fakt, że ścisłe trzymanie się nazw stosowanych w danym okresie będzie prowadzić do absurdów. Przy <a href="/wiki/LWD_Junak" title="LWD Junak">LWD Junak</a> powinieneś wpisać ARP i APRL - Twoje reverty w tym miejscu są błędne, bo APRL nie istniał w 1956 roku, gdy Junaki już w aeroklubach latały. Przy Wildze z kolei powinieneś wpisać APRL i AP, co również jest bez sensu, bo to de facto jedna i ta sama organizacja, tyle że w 1990 roku przemianowana. Konsekwentne stosowanie nazwy Aeroklub Polski pozwoli na uniknięcie tych wszystkich problemów bez wpływu na zawartość merytoryczną haseł.</li> <li>Tłumaczenie wszystkich polskich nazw własnych na angielski mija się kompletnie z celem, jakim jest stworzenie encyklopedii. Mija się też ze zdrowym rozsądkiem, bo wielu nazw nie da się sensownie przetłumaczyć. Nie ma też takiej praktyki - znajdziesz tutaj setki haseł pod oryginalnymi nazwami, jak wspomniane wyżej linie lotnicze czy np. francuska <a href="/wiki/Aviation_Navale" class="mw-redirect" title="Aviation Navale">Aviation Navale</a> i nikt ich nie zmienia na siłę na wersje angielskie. Nie twierdzę, że należy absolutnie wszystko zostawiać w języku polskim, ale nie widzę najmniejszego sensu w tworzeniu absurdalnych tłumaczeń na siłę. Weźmy choćby takie LPR - można zrobić te nieszczęsne <a href="/wiki/Polish_Air_Ambulance_Service" class="mw-redirect" title="Polish Air Ambulance Service">Polish Air Ambulance Service</a>, ale chyba jednak lepiej zostawić <a href="/wiki/Lotnicze_Pogotowie_Ratunkowe" class="mw-redirect" title="Lotnicze Pogotowie Ratunkowe">Lotnicze Pogotowie Ratunkowe</a>, które przynajmniej będzie zgodne z napisami na sprzęcie.</li> <li>O obrazkach możesz poczytać np. w <a href="/wiki/User_talk:M_Van_Houten#Image_width" title="User talk:M Van Houten">tej dyskusji</a>. Ten użytkownik sprawia wiele problemów, bo oprócz niedostrzegania przycisku "podgląd" ma swoją wizję wyglądu artykułów średnio zgodną z wytycznymi projektu. Jego argumentacja jest właściwie identyczna z Twoją, więc sobie spokojnie możesz przeczytać i przetrawić całość dyskusji. Ostatni głos jest głosem administratora, który pojawił się w dyskusji na moją prośbę. Nie chce mi się szukać innych dyskusji tego typu, ta jest doskonałym przykładem, jak Twoje próby przekonywania kogokolwiek mogą wyglądać. Szans na przeforsowanie swojego punktu widzenia praktycznie nie masz, bo nikt z liczących się w projekcie osób tego nie poprze. Wstawianie stałych szerokości na siłę skończy się ich kasowaniem, a w przypadku wstawiania ich na siłę już po takiej dyskusji skończy się krótszym bądź dłuższym banem. Tak to tutaj wygląda i od tej reguły nie ma wyjątków. Opisałem Ci przyszły przebieg wydarzeń, jeśli masz czas na powtarzanie takich dyskusji, to możesz próbować innych przekonywać, chętnie popatrzę. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T08:22:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T08:22:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T08:22:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-17T15:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ol></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T17:31:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T08:22:00.000Z"></span>Lecimy <ol><li>W teorii niedopuszczalne jest pisanie "Polska", bo powinniśmy pisać "Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa" albo "Rzeczpospolita Polska", ewentualnie ich angielskie odpowiedniki. Nie piszemy jednak tego z przynajmniej dwóch powodów: dla własnej wygody oraz żeby nie wprowadzać zamieszania wśród mniej zorientowanych. To samo dotyczy Polish Air Force, więc IMHO spokojnie może dotyczyć Aeroklubu. Przy czym zdecydowanie wybieram nazwę polską, bo skoro inne nacje wpisują swoje nazwy narodowe, to dlaczego my koniecznie musimy wpisywać tłumaczenie angielskie? Niech się inni nauczą nazwy "Aeroklub Polski", podobnie jak niech się nauczą nazwy "Polskie Linie Lotnicze LOT" czy "Lotnicze Pogotowie Ratunkowe", zwłaszcza że są to nazwy własne i oficjalne, a nie nazwy opisowe.</li> <li>W nazwie Aeroklub Polski drugi wyraz jest wyprowadzony od rzeczownika, nie od przymiotnika - nie "jaki aeroklub" (polski), ale "czyj aeroklub" (Polski). Oczywiście nazwa powinna być bez drugiego the, wklejałem angielską nazwę APRL i przeoczyłem nadmiarowe "the".</li> <li>Artykuł o AP poprawię, jak znajdę wolną chwilę, z czym ostatnio ciężko. Mimo wszystko wolę pracę porządkową, to dla mnie relaks i przerywnik w pracy.</li> <li>Niestety, duże obrazki są mi solą w oku i będę je zmieniał niezależnie od tego, kto je wstawi. Możemy dyskutować o tym, czy dany obrazek powinien być w tym miejscu, czy w innym, ale pod względem wbijania rozmiarów na sztywno przyjmuję pozycję nienegocjowalną. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T17:31:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T08:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T17:31:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T08:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T17:31:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-18T08:22:00.000Z"></span></li></ol></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Grafiki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Grafiki-2007-06-18T23:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Grafiki-2007-06-18T23:58:00.000Z"></span>Grafiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Grafiki-2007-06-18T23:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Grafiki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spetsedisa-2007-06-18T23:58:00.000Z-Grafiki"></span>Witam i proszę o pomoc, ładowałem grafiki na commons z licencją "polishpd" która została ostatecznie dopuszczona po dyskusji <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Template:PD-Polish">[4]</a>, w sytuacji gdy w książkach autora zdjęcia nie było umieszczałem napis "unknown". I teraz oznacza mi pewien jegomość te zdjęcia jako do usunięcia (bo nie ma autora) np. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Bochnia_massacre_German-occupied_Poland_1939.jpg">[5]</a>, w tym przypadku autor jest nie do ustalenia bo zdjęcia znaleziono u żołnierza nie znanego z nazwiska (a być może to nie on je zrobił). Podobnie to zdjęcie <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Polish_POWs_shot_by_Wehrmacht_1939.jpg">[6]</a>, przekazane przez anonimowego Niemca do Polskiej Misji Wojskowej w Berlinie w 1950 (zatem autor niemożliwy do ustalenia), a więc siłą rzeczy autora tego podać nie mogę. Zatem mam prośbę, czy mógłbyś mi wyjaśnić czy muszę podawać do tego taga autora skoro w źródle go nie ma lub nie można go ustalić ? Czy wogóle jest obowiązek podawania autora do tego konkretnego taga ? A jeszcze ten jegomość oznaczył mi zdjęcia plakatów<a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:KL_Warschau_gas_chambers_scheme.jpg">[7]</a> wywieszonych na ulicy które zrobiłem moim aparacikiem jako "derivetive", czy mógłbyś wyrazić sowją opinię na ten temat ? Przecież to są plakaty informacyjne wywieszone publicznie, a ich autor nie jest wogóle znany. Proszę o pomoc. Pozdrawiam. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Spetsedisa&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Spetsedisa (page does not exist)">Spetsedisa</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Spetsedisa-2007-06-18T23:58:00.000Z-Grafiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)</a> 23:54, 18 June 2007 (UTC)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spetsedisa-2007-06-18T23:58:00.000Z-Grafiki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spetsedisa-2007-06-18T23:58:00.000Z-Grafiki"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bf_108" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bf_108-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bf_108-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z"></span>Bf 108<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bf_108-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: Bf 108"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z-Bf_108"></span>Według monografii Wydawnictwa Militaria wersja A była dwumiejscowa, wersje B, C i D były czteromiejscowe. W zasadzie artykuł przydałoby się poszerzyć, ale zostawiam to sobie na jakiś czas wolny. Przy okazji: w najnowszym numerze "Lotnictwa z Szachownicą" jest świetny artykuł Morgały: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.sanko.wroclaw.pl/magazyn/nr23/nr23-art3.html"><i>Samoloty zdobyczne w lotnictwie polskim po 1945 roku</i></a>. Będzie na czym się oprzeć m.in. w przypadku tych Bf 108. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z-Bf_108" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:25, 19 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z-Bf_108"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z-Bf_108"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T07:02:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z"></span>Wszędzie wersja A jest podawana jako 2+0, pozostałe jako 2+2, ale... masz rację. Sprawdziłem teraz uważnie tekst, gdzie jest mowa o zgłoszeniu prototypu do Challenge i wyraźnie mówią tam o czterech miejscach. Kolejnym potwierdzeniem jest relacja z przebiegu imprezy, gdzie dla odchudzenia samolotu wymontowano zagłówki i podłokietniki z tylnych foteli. Zdjęcia również wyraźnie pokazują "szklarnię" dużo za długą dla dwumiejscowej maszyny. Najwyraźniej ktoś kiedyś wyszedł z założenia, że w Challenge były samoloty dwumiejscowe, bo leciały nimi dwie osoby. Reszta to powieliła i poszło w świat... <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T07:02:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T07:02:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T07:02:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-19T06:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Various" data-mw-thread-id="h-Various-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Various-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z"></span>Various<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Various-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: Various"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z-Various"></span>Thanks for the help on the Bartels - are you sure that the BM-1 was only on paper? <i>Jane's Encyclopedia of Aviation</i> states that a single prototype was built (p. 121), but I can't find anything else in English about this aircraft. If you ever have time, I'd really appreciate it if you could please translate the History section from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/samolot/bm1.htm">here</a> for me. </p><p>I can find <i>nothing</i> on a Pallavicino PS-1, but since (as you know) Cesare Pallavicino was a designer for Caproni in 1934, I'm very certain that the Pallavicino PS-1 is the same aircraft that the [<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.mda.org.uk/aircraft/3993.htm">Royal Air Force Museum thesaurus</a>] calls the Caproni PS.1. Next time I'm at the library, I will try to confirm this! (I note that in general, Eastern European sources usually tend to emphasise the name of the designer over the name of the firm). </p><p>Likewise, I have nothing on the Hollsmidt 222, but will try to find out more at the library. </p><p>I'm not sure that links to photos on an external homepage are very useful - Wikipedia is a very long-term project! What we are all working towards is hopefully a resource that will be useful for many, many years to come. This is why in general, Wikipedia discourages external links, especially to "private" websites. </p><p>Finally, the guideline about fixed-width image sizes can be found <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style">here</a>. It's a strong recommendation, meaning that there should be some <i>very</i> good reason for fixing the size (see examples on the page). Generally, we shouldn't specify sizes just because we think it looks good - because (as I'm sure you know) it will look different on someone else's monitor anyway! At the moment, some editors are working very hard to remove fixed sizes from as many images as possible, and I think it's best to let them have their way - they have a lot of support in this and fighting it would be a waste of time. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z-Various" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z-Various"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z-Various"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2007-06-21T21:28:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your help with the BM-1 translation. Based on that, I've created a short article. Unless some other evidence shows up, I think <i>Jane's</i> is wrong about the prototype. When you next have time, could you please write something to go at <a href="/wiki/Ryszard_Bartel" title="Ryszard Bartel">Ryszard Bartel</a>? (pl has an article). As for the BM-6, it would be very nice to complete the coverage of this designer, but personally, you can see I'm on a mission at the moment, so I'm trying not to be distracted by other interesting aircraft not on the list! (and of course there are lots of these...) Thanks again for all your help --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2007-06-21T21:28:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2007-06-21T21:28:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2007-06-21T21:28:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2007-06-20T23:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AP" data-mw-thread-id="h-AP-2007-06-21T08:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AP-2007-06-21T08:44:00.000Z"></span>AP<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AP-2007-06-21T08:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: AP"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-21T08:44:00.000Z-AP"></span>Strona oficjalna jak strona oficjalna, niejedną głupotę ludzie potrafią napisać. Okazuje się jednak, że od czasów mojego wstępowania do aeroklubu poczyniono jakieś zmiany w statucie... albo ja miałem do wglądu coś innego niż statut. W obecnym wyraźnie odmieniają to jako nazwę przymiotnikową, co mnie mocno zaskoczyło. Wychodzi zatem, że tłumaczenie jest dobre, o ile oczywiście nie czepiać się detali typu "aero club" kontra "aeroclub", bo sami anglojęzyczni nie doszli z tym do porozumienia. Według Google pierwszego jest 829,000, drugiego 774,000 - czyli jakiejś wybitnej różnicy nie ma. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-21T08:44:00.000Z-AP" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-21T08:44:00.000Z-AP"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-21T08:44:00.000Z-AP"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_3-2007-06-24T16:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_3-2007-06-24T16:52:00.000Z"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_3-2007-06-24T16:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: DYK"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carabinieri-2007-06-24T16:52:00.000Z-DYK_3"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/24_June" class="mw-redirect" title="24 June">24 June</a>, <a href="/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Challenge_1934" class="mw-redirect" title="Challenge 1934">Challenge 1934</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> --<a href="/wiki/User:Carabinieri" title="User:Carabinieri">Carabinieri</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Carabinieri-2007-06-24T16:52:00.000Z-DYK_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carabinieri-2007-06-24T16:52:00.000Z-DYK_3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carabinieri-2007-06-24T16:52:00.000Z-DYK_3"></span> </p><table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blnguyen-2007-06-26T03:32:00.000Z-DYK_3"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/June_26" title="June 26">June 26</a>, <a href="/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Ryszard_Bartel" title="Ryszard Bartel">Ryszard Bartel</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Well done on the article, which was kindly nominated by Piotrus. The Polish contingent can be proud of their very strong contributions to Wikipedia. <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Blnguyen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Blnguyen (page does not exist)">Blnguyen</a></b> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Blnguyen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Blnguyen (page does not exist)">bananabucket</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Blnguyen-2007-06-26T03:32:00.000Z-DYK_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 26 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blnguyen-2007-06-26T03:32:00.000Z-DYK_3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blnguyen-2007-06-26T03:32:00.000Z-DYK_3"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MD-12_fixed_width_photo" data-mw-thread-id="h-MD-12_fixed_width_photo-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MD-12_fixed_width_photo-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z"></span>MD-12 fixed width photo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MD-12_fixed_width_photo-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: MD-12 fixed width photo"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z-MD-12_fixed_width_photo"></span>I don't like this kind of forcing your POV about formatting of articles in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aircraft" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft">WikiProject Aircraft</a>. We use thumbnails here and even license tricks with "no less than 250px" restriction won't help you with using fixed width images. This time photos were exchanged and your license is not broken but think about not posting such images next time more seriously. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z-MD-12_fixed_width_photo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:39, 27 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z-MD-12_fixed_width_photo"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z-MD-12_fixed_width_photo"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Akradecki-2007-06-27T13:33:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z"></span>I have removed the image from the article as it is a non-free image and appears to violate copyright policy both here and at Commons, which states "Publication of derivative work must be allowed"<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>. Derivative works includes reduced-size images, and a size restriction therefore violate the Commons licensing policies. Likewise, images cannot be used on Wikipedia which retain such restricions to their use. Your attempt to force your point of view on others by deliberately disabling User Preferences is not appreciated, and could be seen as downright arrogant. Please refrain from continuing in this, and consider this a formal level 2 warning. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Akradecki" title="User:Akradecki"><span style="color:#62BB32;">AK<span style="color:#006400;">Radecki</span></span></a></b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akradecki" title="User talk:Akradecki"><sup style="color:#62BB32;">Speaketh</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Akradecki-2007-06-27T13:33:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Akradecki-2007-06-27T13:33:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Akradecki-2007-06-27T13:33:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chrislk02-2007-06-27T13:50:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"></div></dd></dl> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons%3ALicensing">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons%3ALicensing</a></span> </li> </ol></div> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Akradecki appears to be correct hear, especially considering there is a public domain image in existence. There is no need to use a copyrighted image used with explicit conditions when a PD image can do the job. <a href="/wiki/User:Chrislk02" title="User:Chrislk02">-- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Chrislk02-2007-06-27T13:50:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chrislk02-2007-06-27T13:50:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chrislk02-2007-06-27T13:50:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-27T08:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="P.24" data-mw-thread-id="h-P.24-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-P.24-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z"></span>P.24<span data-mw-comment-end="h-P.24-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: P.24"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z-P.24"></span>Taki wpis ("najbardziej popularny") zostanie usunięty, jeśli nie będzie podparty cytatem. Poza tym nie wiem, czy P.24 był najbardziej popularnym myśliwcem, jednak CR.32 był używany dużo dłużej i przez większą liczbę krajów - na pewno do 1939 roku były to Austria, Chiny, Hiszpania, Niemcy (zdobyte maszyny austriackie), Węgry i Włochy. Nie mam pod ręką dat eksportu do pozostałych państw, ale pewnie też parę z nich by doszło. Co do obrazków - ostrzegałem :o) <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z-P.24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z-P.24"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z-P.24"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-30T21:14:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z"></span>Tak na szybko masz jeszcze <a href="/wiki/Gloster_Gladiator" title="Gloster Gladiator">Gloster Gladiator</a> z 15 krajami, <a href="/wiki/Bristol_Bulldog" title="Bristol Bulldog">Bristol Bulldog</a> (10), <a href="/wiki/Hawker_Hart" title="Hawker Hart">Hawker Hart</a> (9), <a href="/wiki/Hawker_Audax" class="mw-redirect" title="Hawker Audax">Hawker Audax</a> (odmiana Harta, 8 krajów) czy wreszcie <a href="/wiki/Gloster_Gauntlet" title="Gloster Gauntlet">Gloster Gauntlet</a> (6 użytkowników). P.24 do czołówki naprawdę sporo brakuje. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-30T21:14:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-30T21:14:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-30T21:14:00.000Z-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-06-29T09:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11" data-mw-thread-id="h-PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z"></span>PZL P.7 and PZL P.11<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: PZL P.7 and PZL P.11"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z-PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11"></span>As noted, the quote from Joe Baugher is "The best-known version was the P-11" referring to the P.7. Frans Bonne goes further, "Work on the P.7 prototype powered by 1 Å~ Bristol Jupiter radial was underway, and the Polish government contacted P.Z.L. to develop a fighter based on the P.7, but powered with the Bristol Mercury. Redesign of the fighter was started by Zygmunt Pulawski as the P.11." It began as a variant and has to be considered such. I can provide many more quotes if needed. FWIW <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z-PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z-PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z-PZL_P.7_and_PZL_P.11"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T14:12:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z"></span>M. Pibwl, I agree, the development line of the P.11 is somewhat ambiguous although the fact that the aircraft design began as a development is indicated by your own quote: "After designing the P.7, Pulawski started further <b>variants</b> with larger engines, leading eventually to the P.11."Another quote from a Polish source: "The installation of a radial engine in the P.Z.L. P.7 diminished the excellent forward view for the pilot that was achieved in the P.Z.L. P.1 with its narrower V-12 engine, and it was proposed to improve this situation by the introduction of a Bristol Mercury radial engine, which was of smaller diameter than the Jupiter that powered the P.Z.L. P.7a. <b>This version of the fighter was designated P.Z.L. P.11</b>."</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I was not the original editor who posted that infobox connection but after thinking about it, I agreed that there was a logical development here and that if a note was made in the citation, it would clearly show the phase of development, however, I will tie it in in some other section of the article. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T14:12:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T14:12:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T14:12:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-07-03T00:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T20:14:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-07-03T14:12:00.000Z"></span>M.Pibwl, check the alteration I have made in the article, I believe it accurately describes the evolution of the type. FWIW <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T20:14:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-07-03T14:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T20:14:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-07-03T14:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2007-07-03T20:14:00.000Z-Bzuk-2007-07-03T14:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Potez_25" data-mw-thread-id="h-Potez_25-2007-07-04T11:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Potez_25-2007-07-04T11:14:00.000Z"></span>Potez 25<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Potez_25-2007-07-04T11:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=54" title="Edit section: Potez 25"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-07-04T11:14:00.000Z-Potez_25"></span>O Potezie wiem tyle, co nic. W Polsce były z pewnością mocno modyfikowane, ale w jakim stopniu te modyfikacje wprowadzano i na ilu egzemplarzach - nie mam pojęcia. W ogóle Potez zasługuje na porządną monografię, łącznie z tymi zdobytymi i testowanymi/używanymi przez Luftwaffe. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-07-04T11:14:00.000Z-Potez_25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-07-04T11:14:00.000Z-Potez_25"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-07-04T11:14:00.000Z-Potez_25"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61" data-mw-thread-id="h-Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61-2007-07-09T23:33:00.000Z"><span id="Bl.C3.A9riot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61-2007-07-09T23:33:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Bl%C3%A9riot-SPAD_S.51" title="Blériot-SPAD S.51">Blériot-SPAD S.51</a> and <a href="/wiki/Bl%C3%A9riot-SPAD_S.61" title="Blériot-SPAD S.61">S.61</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61-2007-07-09T23:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: Blériot-SPAD S.51 and S.61"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2007-07-09T23:33:00.000Z-Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61"></span>Hi Pibwl - I've just written up these two French fighters; I know that they were used in significant numbers by Poland, but not much more than that. I'm asking you and Piotr if you can add anything more, especially about the S.61 that was also licence-built in Poland. Cheers --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2007-07-09T23:33:00.000Z-Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2007-07-09T23:33:00.000Z-Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2007-07-09T23:33:00.000Z-Blériot-SPAD_S.51_and_S.61"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SZD_i_Mielec" data-mw-thread-id="h-SZD_i_Mielec-2007-07-19T12:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SZD_i_Mielec-2007-07-19T12:22:00.000Z"></span>SZD i Mielec<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SZD_i_Mielec-2007-07-19T12:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: SZD i Mielec"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-07-19T12:22:00.000Z-SZD_i_Mielec"></span>O Mielcu wiem niewiele. Byłem w zakładach w 1997 roku podczas I Światowego Zlotu An-2, ale panował tam taki chaos, że nie szło z nikim pogadać czy czegokolwiek się dowiedzieć. Swoją drogą żałuję, że nie miałem wówczas cyfraka, Irydy stały na "linii produkcyjnej" i mógłbym takie fotki porobić, że aż miło. Jeśli chodzi o szybowce, to jestem za nazwami SZD-xx, jak to zresztą widać po moim [User:User:Piotr Mikołajski#To-Do|To-Do]]. Jest tam chyba kompletny spis wszystkich maszyn i uporządkowana konwencja nazewnicza, łącznie z numerkami poszczególnych wersji. Zunifikowałem też chyba wszystkie literki i dodatkowe oznaczenia, więc w pewnym sensie część pracy masz już zrobionej. Jest to też mój punkt widzenia na nazewnictwo poszczególnych artykułów ;) <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-07-19T12:22:00.000Z-SZD_i_Mielec" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-07-19T12:22:00.000Z-SZD_i_Mielec"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-07-19T12:22:00.000Z-SZD_i_Mielec"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="French_Navy" data-mw-thread-id="h-French_Navy-2007-09-06T23:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-French_Navy-2007-09-06T23:01:00.000Z"></span>French Navy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-French_Navy-2007-09-06T23:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: French Navy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rama-2007-09-06T23:01:00.000Z-French_Navy"></span>Hello, </p><p>Thank you for you contributions to <a href="/wiki/French_Navy" title="French Navy">French Navy</a>. There's some significant overlapping between <a href="/wiki/French_Navy" title="French Navy">French Navy</a> and <a href="/wiki/History_of_the_French_Navy" title="History of the French Navy">History of the French Navy‎</a>, don't you think that we might want to add new material to <a href="/wiki/History_of_the_French_Navy" title="History of the French Navy">History of the French Navy‎</a> and actually size down the historical part of <a href="/wiki/French_Navy" title="French Navy">French Navy</a> ? </p><p>Also, in <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=French_Navy&curid=383256&diff=156151513&oldid=156145870">[8]</a>, you mention "modern battleships: 2 (plus 1 in last stadium of construction and 1 in construction)" ; I think that it's more like "1 (plus 1 in last stadium of construction and 1 in construction)": while the <i>Richelieu</i> was operational, the <i>Jean Bart</i> was not completely operational (though she did give the Allied a hard time at Casablanca. As far as I know, the <i>Clemenceau</i> was about 15% complete when she was scrapped by the Germans, and the keel of the <i>Gascogne</i> was never laid down. </p><p>Cheers ! <a href="/wiki/User:Rama" title="User:Rama">Rama</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rama-2007-09-06T23:01:00.000Z-French_Navy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 6 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rama-2007-09-06T23:01:00.000Z-French_Navy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rama-2007-09-06T23:01:00.000Z-French_Navy"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image:96-25.JPG" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image:96-25.JPG-2007-09-28T12:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image:96-25.JPG-2007-09-28T12:42:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:96-25.JPG" title="File:96-25.JPG">Image:96-25.JPG</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image:96-25.JPG-2007-09-28T12:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: Image:96-25.JPG"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-125.173.102.14-2007-09-28T12:42:00.000Z-Image:96-25.JPG"></span>Hi. Thank you for a message. Sorry,I can't speak English well. Thia is a photo. This photograph is anti-aircraft gun of battleship "Yamato" of the Japanese Navy . Please see also <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B9%9D%E5%85%AD%E5%BC%8F%E4%BA%8C%E5%8D%81%E4%BA%94%E7%B2%8D%E9%AB%98%E8%A7%92%E6%A9%9F%E9%8A%83" class="extiw" title="ja:九六式二十五粍高角機銃">ja:九六式二十五粍高角機銃</a> <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/125.173.102.14" title="Special:Contributions/125.173.102.14">125.173.102.14</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:125.173.102.14&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:125.173.102.14 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-125.173.102.14-2007-09-28T12:42:00.000Z-Image:96-25.JPG" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 28 September 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-125.173.102.14-2007-09-28T12:42:00.000Z-Image:96-25.JPG"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-125.173.102.14-2007-09-28T12:42:00.000Z-Image:96-25.JPG"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_AWM_images" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_AWM_images-2007-09-30T23:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_AWM_images-2007-09-30T23:33:00.000Z"></span>Re: AWM images<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_AWM_images-2007-09-30T23:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: Re: AWM images"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick_Dowling-2007-09-30T23:33:00.000Z-Re:_AWM_images"></span>Hi. The copyright status of pre-1955 images from the AWM's database has been discussed several times, and the consensus each time was that they're out of copyright and that the AWM's advice was not correct. As the database itself says that the images are out of copyright and the AWM doesn't have an exemption from Australian copyright laws the images seem to be acceptable for use here and in Wikicommons. See: <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:AWM-image" title="Template talk:AWM-image">Template_talk:AWM-image</a> for a summary of this issue. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nick_Dowling" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nick Dowling">Nick Dowling</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Nick_Dowling-2007-09-30T23:33:00.000Z-Re:_AWM_images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick_Dowling-2007-09-30T23:33:00.000Z-Re:_AWM_images"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick_Dowling-2007-09-30T23:33:00.000Z-Re:_AWM_images"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer" data-mw-thread-id="h-HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer-2007-10-09T16:50:00.000Z"><span id="HMS_Jervis_.28F00.29.2FJ.2C_K_and_N_class_destroyer"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer-2007-10-09T16:50:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/HMS_Jervis_(F00)" class="mw-redirect" title="HMS Jervis (F00)">HMS Jervis (F00)</a>/<a href="/wiki/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer" class="mw-redirect" title="J, K and N class destroyer">J, K and N class destroyer</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer-2007-10-09T16:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: HMS Jervis (F00)/J, K and N class destroyer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xyl_54-2007-10-09T16:50:00.000Z-HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer"></span>I've just posted some replies to your comments there, and there. <a href="/wiki/User:Xyl_54" title="User:Xyl 54">Xyl 54</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Xyl_54-2007-10-09T16:50:00.000Z-HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xyl_54-2007-10-09T16:50:00.000Z-HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xyl_54-2007-10-09T16:50:00.000Z-HMS_Jervis_(F00)/J,_K_and_N_class_destroyer"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships-2007-10-13T02:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships-2007-10-13T02:16:00.000Z"></span>Invitation to join WikiProject Ships<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships-2007-10-13T02:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: Invitation to join WikiProject Ships"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border-spacing:2px; margin:0px" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="MainPageBG" style="width: 55%; border:1px solid #FCF2D9; background-color:#FFF; color:#FFF;font-size: 90%"> <table width="100%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="background-color:#E2E7FF"> <tbody><tr> <th><div style="margin: 0; background-color:lightsteelblue; font-size:85%; border:1px solid #084080; text-align:left; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maralia-2007-10-13T02:16:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:USS_Constitution_1997.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="WikiProject Ships"><img alt="WikiProject Ships" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/USS_Constitution_1997.jpg/85px-USS_Constitution_1997.jpg" decoding="async" width="85" height="65" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/USS_Constitution_1997.jpg/128px-USS_Constitution_1997.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/USS_Constitution_1997.jpg/170px-USS_Constitution_1997.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2075" data-file-height="1596"/></a><figcaption>WikiProject Ships</figcaption></figure> Hello Pibwl! I noticed your contributions to <a href="/wiki/Japanese_destroyer_Ikazuchi" title="Japanese destroyer Ikazuchi">Japanese destroyer Ikazuchi</a>, and thought you might be interested in <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ships" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships">WikiProject Ships</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of <a href="/wiki/Ship" title="Ship">ships</a> of all kinds. <p>If you would like to participate, please visit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ships" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships">the project page</a>, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Maralia" title="User:Maralia">Maralia</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Maralia-2007-10-13T02:16:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maralia-2007-10-13T02:16:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maralia-2007-10-13T02:16:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_Ships"></span> </p> </div> </th></tr></tbody></table> <div style="margin: 0; background-color:white; font-size:100%; border:none; text-align:left; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;"> </div></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki" data-mw-thread-id="h-re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki-2007-10-21T23:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki-2007-10-21T23:50:00.000Z"></span>re:<a href="/wiki/Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki" title="Juliusz Nowina-Sokolnicki">Juliusz Nowina-Sokolnicki</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki-2007-10-21T23:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: re:Juliusz Nowina-Sokolnicki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2007-10-21T23:50:00.000Z-re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki"></span>No faktycznie jakis troll sie uwzial, dalem semiprotekcje.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus"> Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus </a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2007-10-21T23:50:00.000Z-re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2007-10-21T23:50:00.000Z-re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2007-10-21T23:50:00.000Z-re:Juliusz_Nowina-Sokolnicki"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Watercolors" data-mw-thread-id="h-Watercolors"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Watercolors"></span>Watercolors<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Watercolors"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: Watercolors"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi. I have already fixed the tags and rationales of the derivative works I uploaded. Thank you.<a href="/wiki/User:DagosNavy" class="mw-redirect" title="User:DagosNavy">DagosNavy</a> 1:46, 01 March 2008 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sequence" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sequence-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sequence-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z"></span>Sequence<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sequence-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: Sequence"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z-Sequence"></span>Hi! Great to have you back! </p><p>"Sequence" was removed as part of resolving a big problem that WikiProject aircraft was having due to the project's standard page layout not conforming to the general Wikipedia conventions. It was necessary to move the "See also" section higher in the article (after "specifications" and before "references") and to move purely navigational content (ie, the sequences) to a navbox at the end of the article. </p><p>This work is still on-going, but we've made some good progress - all of the manufacturers <a href="/wiki/Category:Manufacturer-based_aircraft_navigational_boxes" title="Category:Manufacturer-based aircraft navigational boxes">here</a> now have navboxes in place. Apart from conforming better to the rest of Wikipedia, I'm sure you realise the benefits of being able to correct a template and have the sequences corrected in all aircraft by that manufacturer at the same time! :) </p><p>If you want to, it would be a big help if you could template some of the Polish manufacturers that you've done so much work on. It's probably easiest to copy-and-paste one of the existing templates to get started, and if you need any help, please ask! :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlandmann" title="User talk:Rlandmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z-Sequence" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z-Sequence"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z-Sequence"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:54:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z"></span>If you take a look at the existing templates, we've been including all obscure aircraft and even unbuilt designs when there is a known designation. Redlinks are good - they grow the wiki! --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlandmann" title="User talk:Rlandmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:54:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:54:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:54:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-03-30T22:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stall_speed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stall_speed-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stall_speed-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z"></span>Stall speed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stall_speed-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: Stall speed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z-Stall_speed"></span>"Minimum speed" is a less technical way of expressing "stall speed" (or, more specifically, <i>one of</i> the stall speeds for that aircraft - probably V<sub>S1</sub>). This is the lowest speed at which the aircraft remains controllable. For our articles, it's probably not a relevant detail except for STOL designs. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlandmann" title="User talk:Rlandmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z-Stall_speed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z-Stall_speed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z-Stall_speed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:39:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z"></span>No problem: you should just write "Stall speed=57" rather than "<57". Actually, I think that the single- and multiple-engine categories are practically useless; they're hopelessly broad. As you know, each one would eventually contain several <i>thousand</i> entries - how is that supposed to help anyone find anything? Practically no-one in WikiProject:Aircraft uses these - they were set up by someone who classified a few dozen articles and then gave up. Since then, two other editors took up the cause and have classified several hundred more. I suggested deleting these categories a little while ago, but didn't pursue the issue. Sometime soon, I'll be starting a formal deletion process for them. If you can think of some way that they're useful, however, I'd love to hear it! --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlandmann" title="User talk:Rlandmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:39:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:39:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:39:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T20:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:51:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:39:00.000Z"></span>Actually, that's how these categories seem to have started. From the beginning of the category system, we had categories for some unusual wing and engine types; then somebody started adding categories for very common types. You might have noticed things like <a href="/wiki/Category:High_wing_aircraft" title="Category:High wing aircraft">Category:High wing aircraft</a>.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>While I'm here - when you've finished adding a new type, could you please add {{subst:aerotag}} to the article's talk page? This tags it for the people interested in rating articles. I think it's stupid, myself, but if we remember to tag articles when they're contributed, it saves work for other people later. Also, please remember to add to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_articles_(Aircraft)" title="Wikipedia:New articles (Aircraft)">new articles list</a>.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>One more thing that might make your life easier - I created an Excel spreadsheet that easily converts from metric to English units and back. If you'd like a copy of this to help with filling in the specifications section, please email me, and I'll send you a copy. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlandmann" title="User talk:Rlandmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:51:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:51:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:51:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-02T22:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="First_air_army?" data-mw-thread-id="h-First_air_army?-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z"><span id="First_air_army.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-First_air_army?-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z"></span>First air army?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-First_air_army?-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: First air army?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z-First_air_army?"></span>FYI, seeing you're pretty bilingual, we can use your help here: </p> <dl><dd><div class="wikipediauserbox" style="float:left;border:1px solid white;margin:1px;width:238px"><table role="presentation" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:238px;margin-bottom:0;margin-top:0;background:skyblue;color:inherit"><tbody><tr><td style="border:0;width:45px;height:45px;background:white;text-align:center;font-size:14pt;font-weight:bold;color:black;padding:0 1px 0 0;line-height:1.25em;vertical-align:middle"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:PlaneSpottingWorld_logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cb/PlaneSpottingWorld_logo.png/45px-PlaneSpottingWorld_logo.png" decoding="async" width="45" height="38" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cb/PlaneSpottingWorld_logo.png/68px-PlaneSpottingWorld_logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cb/PlaneSpottingWorld_logo.png/90px-PlaneSpottingWorld_logo.png 2x" data-file-width="150" data-file-height="127"/></a></span></td><td style="border:0;text-align:left;font-size:8pt;padding:0 4px 0 4px;height:45px;line-height:1.25em;color:black;vertical-align:middle">This user is a member at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://plane.spottingworld.com/">plane.spottingworld</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></dd></dl> <p>Any article on WP can be lifted & pasted, no worries; if you can lift & translate from Polish WP, even better. Any help is welcome. And, you can use this userbox on your page, too. =] <a href="/wiki/User:Trekphiler" title="User:Trekphiler">Trekphiler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trekphiler" title="User talk:Trekphiler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z-First_air_army?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z-First_air_army?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z-First_air_army?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T13:34:00.000Z-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z"></span>I understand, just spreading the news. Maybe somebody'll see the tag & come over. If you <b>ever</b> get a sec, just paste something you've done here. I'm not doing a lot past that, myself, & it's one less for somebody else to have to find. Have a good day, either way! <a href="/wiki/User:Trekphiler" title="User:Trekphiler">Trekphiler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trekphiler" title="User talk:Trekphiler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T13:34:00.000Z-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T13:34:00.000Z-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T13:34:00.000Z-Trekphiler-2008-04-08T11:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Inline_references" data-mw-thread-id="h-Inline_references-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Inline_references-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z"></span>Inline references<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Inline_references-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: Inline references"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z-Inline_references"></span>Your articles are commonly discarded at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYK">WP:DYK</a> due to having no inline refs. Perhaps you'd like to address this in your future creations.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z-Inline_references" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z-Inline_references"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z-Inline_references"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2008-04-08T21:12:00.000Z-Piotrus-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z"></span>A good middle way is to reference inline the specific fact that is going to go for DYK hook. I think this little extra effort is worth it as it gives the articles a ~12h main page display.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2008-04-08T21:12:00.000Z-Piotrus-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2008-04-08T21:12:00.000Z-Piotrus-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2008-04-08T21:12:00.000Z-Piotrus-2008-04-08T18:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-Categories-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Categories-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z"></span>Categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Categories-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=68" title="Edit section: Categories"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z-Categories"></span>No, but to minimise <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OCAT">category clutter</a>, we should always try to minimise categories. In practice, WikiProject Aircraft has always categorised by the <i>original purpose</i> of an aircraft, even if the aircraft was eventually used for many other purposes - <a href="/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito" title="De Havilland Mosquito">de Havilland Mosquito</a> is an excellent example of this; and even <a href="/wiki/Junkers_Ju_88" title="Junkers Ju 88">Junkers Ju 88</a> is only under two categories (and I would argue, should only be under one - it was not originally intended as a fighter). Sometimes, of course, an aircraft was designed as multi-role from the very beginning - for example many French military aircraft of the 1920s and 30s that were intended as reconnaissance-bombers. </p><p>This principle is even more important for sports and utility types, because practically *every* one of these aircraft was eventually used for civil and/or military training at one time or another... --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlandmann" title="User talk:Rlandmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z-Categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z-Categories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z-Categories"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-17T10:41:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z"></span>Sorry it's taken so long to respond. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aircraft/Categories#Role" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft/Categories">The guideline</a> has always been "Most, if not all, aircraft have been used in multiple roles. This classification is based on the primary role they were designed for." The alternative, as I said above, is that most aircraft could be categorised into half-a-dozen categories, creating a big mess. It's important that we try to keep our contributions consistent with established practice. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlandmann" title="User talk:Rlandmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2008-04-17T10:41:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 17 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-17T10:41:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-17T10:41:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-15T11:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-18T11:13:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-17T10:41:00.000Z"></span>Well, yes, it <i>could</i> be changed, if there were consensus to do so. I, for one, would strongly oppose such a move, since it adds too much subjectivity to the categorisation process. To illustrate some of the problems: <ul><li>Practically <i>every</i> light civil aircraft has been used as a trainer, but how would we prove that for a particular aircraft type?</li> <li>If we have some proof that, say, three examples of a particular aircraft were once owned by a flying school (out of perhaps dozens or hundreds built), does it now qualify as a trainer? If three isn't enough, what if there had been 10? Where do we draw the line?</li> <li>If the air force of some country seized some civil light aircraft and used them as bombers (like Israel used the Beech Bonanza and Piper Cub), does this make it a bomber? (Not a trivial use either - the Cubs flew many missions during the 1948 War of Independence and became quite famous for it...)</li> <li>If the air force of some country seized some civil light aircraft and used them as transports, does this make it a military transport? (The United States operated a single Messerschmitt Bf 108 and even gave it a "Cargo" designation - C-44). If just one Bf 108 in USAAF service wouldn't be enough to qualify it as a military transport, then what if there had been 10? Where do we draw the line?</li></ul></dd> <dd>The guideline is the way that it is for a <i>reason</i> - the reason being so that editors don't have to make subjective judgments about whether the aircraft qualifies for a category or not. Secondly, it means that all aircraft are classified on exactly the same criteria. I guess this is a little bit like the conversation we had a long time ago about decade of first flight - the date of the first flight is an objective moment in time; just as the role that an aircraft was designed for is a single (or sometimes two- or rarely more) objective point of data. In some senses, it's an arbitrary rule, but in practice, it means a high level of consistency right across the project.</dd> <dd>And the problem with what you suggest - "is a common sense, whether being a sports plane is an important feature to describe this plane, or not" is that everyone's idea of "common sense" and "important feature" is different. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlandmann" title="User talk:Rlandmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2008-04-18T11:13:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-17T10:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-18T11:13:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-17T10:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-18T11:13:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-17T10:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-21T17:32:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-18T11:13:00.000Z"></span>Like I said, it <i>is</i> arbitrary; but the original design role is (almost always) the one role we can be certain of. Even "most common role" may not be clear - we usually have no real way of telling what individual aircraft were used for, particularly (but not only) civil aircraft.</dd> <dd>And to keep going with the example, it wasn't just a case of throwing grenades from the Israeli Pipers and Beeches - these had bomb racks fitted. Are they bombers now? But the extra problem is this - even if it <i>had</i> been just a case of hand-dropping bombs from these aircraft, some "zealous" person is bound to want to add "bomber" as a role if we had a policy of "add any role categories that fit". At what point does a Piper or Beech become a bomber? The same question is important for many World War I reconnaissance types: Is it a bomber if we have solid evidence that grenades were thrown from it? If aerial bombs were hand-dropped from it? If bomb racks were fitted to it? And how do we make sure that another, less famous type is being categorised on the same basis when we simply don't have the information to make such a clear determination.</dd> <dd>And of course there are instances where common sense insists that we must bend the rules and not be too rigid. The best examples I can think of are cases where an aircraft was designed for one purpose (and maybe even tested for it) and never actually used for that purpose but for something else. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rlandmann" title="User:Rlandmann">Rlandmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlandmann" title="User talk:Rlandmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlandmann-2008-04-21T17:32:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-18T11:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-21T17:32:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-18T11:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlandmann-2008-04-21T17:32:00.000Z-Rlandmann-2008-04-18T11:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bibliographies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bibliographies-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bibliographies-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z"></span>Bibliographies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bibliographies-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=69" title="Edit section: Bibliographies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z-Bibliographies"></span>Unlike the popular misconception that bibliographical records only refer to actual quoted sections, bibliographies are merely a listing of all reference sources regardless of their use. In this Wickywacky world, there has been a strict following of the "if it isn't a cited reference then, stick them in for further reading." That is entirely contrary to what a bibliography states. If a researcher uses a reference source or considers it of use in providing a background, then it is included. No author simply lists peripheral works in a bibliography, so I find that the "Further Reading" sections absolutely useless. My thought is if you used the source, list it, don't provide a shopping list of "maybe," "might be" sources. FWiW, excuse the diatribe, but I was a reference librarian for 33 years before becoming an author and editor. <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bzuk" title="User talk:Bzuk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z-Bibliographies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z-Bibliographies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z-Bibliographies"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:17:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z"></span>The point I am making is that an editor may have obtained a source, read information from it, considered it useful and then added it to the bibliography as a reference source. Although an actual citation was not used, the author/editor may have verified an original fact by "double checking" or found that the new source provided background to understand the topic more fully. If the source is not useful in any manner, then it should be eliminated. A peripheral or secondary source that may have marginal use could be listed in the "For further reading" section as an aid to others who are conducting research. That section is closer to a "See also" section in that it directs the reader to additional material that might not always be pertinent but can provide some information. FWiW, I am not sure of the reasoning behind the addition of the sources in the I-180 article, but if an editor added them in good faith as resources, I would tend to accept them. <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bzuk" title="User talk:Bzuk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:17:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:17:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:17:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-05T14:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:57:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:17:00.000Z"></span>If you are firmly convinced that the sources in question are of no value, then please delete them. Since I wasn't sure and have no specific background as to the original intention of submitting these sources, I err on the side of caution. As you can already determine, my understanding of the use of sources that are not specific to the article is that it is a questionable practice. I think that many editors feel more assured that sources are reliable and verifiable if they see quotes and citations (with direct page references), although as for providing background and checking, most authoritative works do provide the reader with a comprehensive list as to reference sources even if some are not directly attributed in the final work. FWiW <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bzuk" title="User talk:Bzuk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:57:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:57:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:57:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T13:12:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:57:00.000Z"></span>By the way, I see there are some new reference sources used in the article. Do you have the books on hand? An author, title, place (of publishing), publisher and date would fill in the note on the bibliography for each source. FWiW <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bzuk" title="User talk:Bzuk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T13:12:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T13:12:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2008-05-06T13:12:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T12:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-08T11:53:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T13:12:00.000Z"></span>Please check <a href="/wiki/Citing_sources" class="mw-redirect" title="Citing sources">Citing sources</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources">Wikipedia:Citing sources</a> as well as the edit history of the editor who added the references in the article in question. This editor has been a very solid contributer to the aviation project group and I believe that if he added bibliography notations then he probably used these sources for reference. FWiW <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bzuk" title="User talk:Bzuk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2008-05-08T11:53:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T13:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2008-05-08T11:53:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T13:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2008-05-08T11:53:00.000Z-Bzuk-2008-05-06T13:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mikasa" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mikasa-2008-06-06T19:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mikasa-2008-06-06T19:45:00.000Z"></span>Mikasa<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mikasa-2008-06-06T19:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=70" title="Edit section: Mikasa"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Artene50-2008-06-06T19:45:00.000Z-Mikasa"></span>Update: The public domain tag on this excellent picture you took on the Mikasa for the <a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Tsushima" title="Battle of Tsushima">Battle of Tsushima</a> article here: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MIKASAGUNS.jpg">[9]</a> is obsolete and needs to be replaced. Commons Delinker just deleted one picture from the The Battle of Tsushima article for being uncategorized. Not your image, but they might remove the Mikasa someday for not being clearly categorised. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Artene50" title="User:Artene50">Artene50</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Artene50" title="User talk:Artene50">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Artene50-2008-06-06T19:45:00.000Z-Mikasa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Artene50-2008-06-06T19:45:00.000Z-Mikasa"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Artene50-2008-06-06T19:45:00.000Z-Mikasa"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Name_changes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Name_changes-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Name_changes-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z"></span>Name changes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Name_changes-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: Name changes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koalorka-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z-Name_changes"></span>Please DO NOT move articles without prior discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Koalorka" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Koalorka">Koalorka</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koalorka" title="User talk:Koalorka">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Koalorka-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z-Name_changes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koalorka-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z-Name_changes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koalorka-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z-Name_changes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koalorka-2008-09-11T19:35:00.000Z-Koalorka-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z"></span>Ok, you still don't seem to know what a variant is. Let me try to articulate that in your first language. MAG-08 jest kolejna wersja rozwojowa pistoletu MAG-95, a nie nowym typem. Rozumiesz? <a href="/wiki/User:Koalorka" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Koalorka">Koalorka</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koalorka" title="User talk:Koalorka">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Koalorka-2008-09-11T19:35:00.000Z-Koalorka-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koalorka-2008-09-11T19:35:00.000Z-Koalorka-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koalorka-2008-09-11T19:35:00.000Z-Koalorka-2008-09-10T22:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959-2008-12-07T06:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959-2008-12-07T06:20:00.000Z"></span>No content in <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Czechoslovakian civil trainer aircraft 1950-1959 (page does not exist)">Category:Czechoslovakian civil trainer aircraft 1950-1959</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959-2008-12-07T06:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=72" title="Edit section: No content in Category:Czechoslovakian civil trainer aircraft 1950-1959"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CSDWarnBot-2008-12-07T06:20:00.000Z-No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information_icon.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Information_icon.svg/62px-Information_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="62" height="62" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Information_icon.svg/93px-Information_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Information_icon.svg/124px-Information_icon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Hello, this is a message from <a href="/wiki/User:CSDWarnBot" title="User:CSDWarnBot">an automated bot</a>. 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To see the user who deleted the page, click <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Category%3ACzechoslovakian+civil+trainer+aircraft+1950-1959">here</a></b> <a href="/wiki/User:CSDWarnBot" title="User:CSDWarnBot">CSDWarnBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CSDWarnBot" title="User talk:CSDWarnBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-CSDWarnBot-2008-12-07T06:20:00.000Z-No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CSDWarnBot-2008-12-07T06:20:00.000Z-No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CSDWarnBot-2008-12-07T06:20:00.000Z-No_content_in_Category:Czechoslovakian_civil_trainer_aircraft_1950-1959"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="K_pattern_flamethrower" data-mw-thread-id="h-K_pattern_flamethrower-2009-01-23T20:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-K_pattern_flamethrower-2009-01-23T20:14:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/K_pattern_flamethrower" title="K pattern flamethrower">K pattern flamethrower</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-K_pattern_flamethrower-2009-01-23T20:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: K pattern flamethrower"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2009-01-23T20:14:00.000Z-K_pattern_flamethrower"></span>If you could add some inline cites, it would make a good addition to <a href="/wiki/T:TDYK" class="mw-redirect" title="T:TDYK">T:TDYK</a>. Also, you may want to consider entering the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Contest" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Contest">Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Contest</a>.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2009-01-23T20:14:00.000Z-K_pattern_flamethrower" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2009-01-23T20:14:00.000Z-K_pattern_flamethrower"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2009-01-23T20:14:00.000Z-K_pattern_flamethrower"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower-2009-01-28T09:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower-2009-01-28T09:48:00.000Z"></span>DYK for K pattern flamethrower<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower-2009-01-28T09:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=74" title="Edit section: DYK for K pattern flamethrower"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dravecky-2009-01-28T09:48:00.000Z-DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#January_28_2009" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">January 28, 2009</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/K_pattern_flamethrower" title="K pattern flamethrower">K pattern flamethrower</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Dravecky" title="User:Dravecky">Dravecky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dravecky" title="User talk:Dravecky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Dravecky-2009-01-28T09:48:00.000Z-DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dravecky-2009-01-28T09:48:00.000Z-DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dravecky-2009-01-28T09:48:00.000Z-DYK_for_K_pattern_flamethrower"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!" data-mw-thread-id="h-An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!-2009-08-23T03:46:00.000Z"><span id="An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!-2009-08-23T03:46:00.000Z"></span>An exciting opportunity to get involved!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!-2009-08-23T03:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=75" title="Edit section: An exciting opportunity to get involved!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trevor_MacInnis-2009-08-23T03:46:00.000Z-An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Trophy.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Trophy.png/75px-Trophy.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="112" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Trophy.png/113px-Trophy.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Trophy.png/150px-Trophy.png 2x" data-file-width="280" data-file-height="418"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>As a member of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation">Aviation WikiProject</a> or one of its subprojects, you may be interested in testing your skills in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation/Contest" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Contest">Aviation Contest</a>! I created this contest, not to pit editor against editor, but to promote article improvement and project participation and camraderie. Hopefully you will agree with its usefulness. Sign up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation/Contest/Signups" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Contest/Signups">here</a>, read up on the rules <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation/Contest#Contest_rules" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Contest">here</a>, and discuss the contest <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Contest" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Contest">here</a>. The first round of the contest may not start until September 1st-unless a large number of editors signup and are ready to compete immediately! Since this contest is just beginning, please give feedback <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Contest" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Contest">here</a>, or let me know what you think on my talkpage. - <b><a href="/wiki/User:Trevor_MacInnis" title="User:Trevor MacInnis"><span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:SteelBlue">Trevor</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trevor_MacInnis" title="User talk:Trevor MacInnis"><span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:IndianRed">MacInnis</span></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Trevor_MacInnis" title="Special:Contributions/Trevor MacInnis"><span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:DarkOliveGreen"><sup>contribs</sup></span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Trevor_MacInnis-2009-08-23T03:46:00.000Z-An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:46, 23 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trevor_MacInnis-2009-08-23T03:46:00.000Z-An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trevor_MacInnis-2009-08-23T03:46:00.000Z-An_exciting_opportunity_to_get_involved!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Midshipman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Midshipman-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Midshipman-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z"></span>Midshipman<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Midshipman-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=76" title="Edit section: Midshipman"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kirk-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z-Midshipman"></span>Hi - just a quick addition to your comment on <i>Michman</i> - I found that term or an equivalent exists in slavic languages, making me curious if its similar to <i>Gardes des marine</i>, or <i>Midshipman</i> or <i>Naval Cadet</i> or <i>Warrant Officer</i> (the dictionary definition). The actual word looks so similar <i>Midshipman</i> I find it odd its was Warrant Officer. </p><p>I just can't get anywhere with slavic languages; I've tried to read about the history and figure out the exact evolution of the term, but I think 4 non-english languages are my limit. If you can help, I would like to know the evolution and history of that rank and why it looks like midshipman but isn't - maybe it was back in the apprentice officer days & I thought I read the Russian Navy copied the British Royal Navy when it was created. I'd also like to know what the Imperial Russian and Soviet Navies used for cadet officers. </p><p>In writing rank articles I try to answer the following questions: 1. Promotion path - how do you get to the rank, and how do you get promoted to the next rank. 2. Duties 3. Social status: Pre-modern ranks almost always have a class attached; there were ranks for the upper or noble classes vs ranks for the lower classes. 4. If the rank doesn't currently exist in the British Royal Navy and/or United States Navy, which rank is it equiavalent to and why. </p><p>Thanks for your help! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kirk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kirk (page does not exist)">Kirk</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kirk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kirk (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Kirk-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z-Midshipman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 17 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kirk-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z-Midshipman"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kirk-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z-Midshipman"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kirk-2009-11-19T14:25:00.000Z-Kirk-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for that translation; the term Midshipman encompasses two roles, officer in training & a job on a ship (which was often done by officers in training). The Tsarist version was the officer in training version, but the modern version seems to be just a job from your translation; a en-ru dictionary translates midshipman to порихтис. I'll look for a secondary source when I get a chance.</dd> <dd>Could you help me find an insignia for Russia and Poland's naval cadet rank from a official government website? My usual strategy is to find out what the term is translated to, find an insignia, then double check the definition in the non-engligh language dictionary (this part I can't really do with Polish or Russian). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kirk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kirk (page does not exist)">Kirk</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kirk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kirk (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Kirk-2009-11-19T14:25:00.000Z-Kirk-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kirk-2009-11-19T14:25:00.000Z-Kirk-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kirk-2009-11-19T14:25:00.000Z-Kirk-2009-11-17T18:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="303_squadron" data-mw-thread-id="h-303_squadron-2010-03-11T15:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-303_squadron-2010-03-11T15:30:00.000Z"></span>303 squadron<span data-mw-comment-end="h-303_squadron-2010-03-11T15:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=77" title="Edit section: 303 squadron"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Varsovian-2010-03-11T15:30:00.000Z-303_squadron"></span>Hi. I notice that you inserted into this article the information about the letter of Jerzy Cynk to Skrzydlata Polska 1/2006 magazine, p. 61-62. Do you happen to know where I might find this letter online? Also, do you happen to have access to a copy of the article by J Alcorn to which Mr Cynk is referring? Thanks in advance. <a href="/wiki/User:Varsovian" title="User:Varsovian">Varsovian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Varsovian" title="User talk:Varsovian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Varsovian-2010-03-11T15:30:00.000Z-303_squadron" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Varsovian-2010-03-11T15:30:00.000Z-303_squadron"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Varsovian-2010-03-11T15:30:00.000Z-303_squadron"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930" data-mw-thread-id="h-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930" title="Challenge International de Tourisme 1930">Challenge International de Tourisme 1930</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=78" title="Edit section: Challenge International de Tourisme 1930"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BajanZindy-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930"></span>Hello Pibwl, Something in this article is confusing to me. In the text, it is written that the Challenge was held at the Airport in <a href="/wiki/Staaken" title="Staaken">Berlin-Staaken</a>, but the pictures are subtitled <a href="/wiki/Tempelhof_Airport" class="mw-redirect" title="Tempelhof Airport">Tempelhof Airport</a>. Can you try to find out, what is correct? I know that the picture description could be wrong as a lot of pictures in the Federal Archives are from the GDR Archives, but it also could be that Staaken Airport is wrong. Regards, Joerg, the <a href="/wiki/User:BajanZindy" title="User:BajanZindy">BajanZindy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BajanZindy" title="User talk:BajanZindy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-BajanZindy-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 12 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BajanZindy-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BajanZindy-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BajanZindy-2010-06-14T12:09:00.000Z-BajanZindy-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z"></span>Hello Pibwl, the picture you referred with all the planes shown is definitely made in the zeppelin hall. That's accordimg to my Dad, who is a born Staakener. The camera view is too high for a hangar. Regards Joerg, the <a href="/wiki/User:BajanZindy" title="User:BajanZindy">BajanZindy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BajanZindy" title="User talk:BajanZindy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-BajanZindy-2010-06-14T12:09:00.000Z-BajanZindy-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 14 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BajanZindy-2010-06-14T12:09:00.000Z-BajanZindy-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BajanZindy-2010-06-14T12:09:00.000Z-BajanZindy-2010-06-12T12:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)-2010-06-13T20:39:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_nomination_of_SHL_.28motorcycle.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)-2010-06-13T20:39:00.000Z"></span>DYK nomination of SHL (motorcycle)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)-2010-06-13T20:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=79" title="Edit section: DYK nomination of SHL (motorcycle)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-13T20:39:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/25px-Symbol_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/38px-Symbol_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/50px-Symbol_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Hello! Your submission of <a href="/wiki/SHL_(motorcycle)" title="SHL (motorcycle)">SHL (motorcycle)</a> at the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:DYK">Did You Know nominations page</a> has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know_nominations/SHL_(motorcycle)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Did you know nominations/SHL (motorcycle) (page does not exist)">your nomination's entry</a></b> and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Rlevse" title="User:Rlevse"><b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlevse" title="User talk:Rlevse"><span style="color:#990;">Talk</span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlevse-2010-06-13T20:39:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 13 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-13T20:39:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlevse-2010-06-13T20:39:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_SHL_(motorcycle)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)-2010-06-16T06:02:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_SHL_.28motorcycle.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)-2010-06-16T06:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for SHL (motorcycle)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)-2010-06-16T06:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=80" title="Edit section: DYK for SHL (motorcycle)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-16T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237879475">.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:#f8eaba;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-content{border:2px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-style{border:2px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-move{border:2px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 10%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{clear:right;float:right;margin:4px 0 4px 1em;width:238px}}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output table.tmbox img{max-width:none!important}</style><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#June_16_2010" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">June 16, 2010</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/SHL_(motorcycle)" title="SHL (motorcycle)">SHL (motorcycle)</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201006/SHL_(motorcycle)">quick check</a> )</small> and add it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKSTATS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKSTATS">DYKSTATS</a> if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Rlevse" title="User:Rlevse"><b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlevse" title="User talk:Rlevse"><span style="color:#990;">Talk</span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlevse-2010-06-16T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-16T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlevse-2010-06-16T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_SHL_(motorcycle)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_PWS-52" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_PWS-52-2010-06-18T06:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_PWS-52-2010-06-18T06:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK for PWS-52<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_PWS-52-2010-06-18T06:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=81" title="Edit section: DYK for PWS-52"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-18T06:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-52"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#June_18_2010" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">June 18, 2010</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/PWS-52" title="PWS-52">PWS-52</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201006/PWS-52">quick check</a> )</small> and add it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKSTATS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKSTATS">DYKSTATS</a> if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Rlevse" title="User:Rlevse"><b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlevse" title="User talk:Rlevse"><span style="color:#990;">Talk</span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlevse-2010-06-18T06:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-18T06:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-52"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlevse-2010-06-18T06:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-52"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny-2010-06-20T00:02:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zak.C5.82ad_Do.C5.9Bwiadczalny"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny-2010-06-20T00:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Szybowcowy Zakład Doświadczalny<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny-2010-06-20T00:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=82" title="Edit section: DYK for Szybowcowy Zakład Doświadczalny"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-20T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#June_20_2010" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">June 20, 2010</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Szybowcowy_Zak%C5%82ad_Do%C5%9Bwiadczalny" title="Szybowcowy Zakład Doświadczalny">Szybowcowy Zakład Doświadczalny</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201006/Szybowcowy_Zak%C5%82ad_Do%C5%9Bwiadczalny">quick check</a> )</small> and add it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKSTATS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKSTATS">DYKSTATS</a> if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Rlevse" title="User:Rlevse"><b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlevse" title="User talk:Rlevse"><span style="color:#990;">Talk</span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlevse-2010-06-20T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-20T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlevse-2010-06-20T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Szybowcowy_Zakład_Doświadczalny"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PWS-5_and_PWS-6" data-mw-thread-id="h-PWS-5_and_PWS-6-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PWS-5_and_PWS-6-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/PWS-5" title="PWS-5">PWS-5</a> and <a href="/wiki/PWS-6" title="PWS-6">PWS-6</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-PWS-5_and_PWS-6-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=83" title="Edit section: PWS-5 and PWS-6"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z-PWS-5_and_PWS-6"></span>Hi, I have assessed your PWS-5 and PWS-6 articles and left this message for you:- Pibwl I have left this article as is. if you see it before someone else edits/assesses it, you can compare it with your PWS-5 article which I have tidied up for you. A couple of pointers: do not delete any of the spec templat you eventually use (this is so future editors can add more info easily or can copy the template for their own use elsewhere. Although there is nothing stopping you using the Specification template to add a text section, you will find that it will swiftly be editted to leave only the spec template behind, as I have done with the PWS-5 article.<a href="/wiki/User:Petebutt" title="User:Petebutt">Petebutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Petebutt" title="User talk:Petebutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z-PWS-5_and_PWS-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z-PWS-5_and_PWS-6"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z-PWS-5_and_PWS-6"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z-PWS-5_and_PWS-6-1"></span>I realise that English is your second language, which makes your efforts very laudable, keep them coming!<a href="/wiki/User:Petebutt" title="User:Petebutt">Petebutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Petebutt" title="User talk:Petebutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z-PWS-5_and_PWS-6-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z-PWS-5_and_PWS-6-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z-PWS-5_and_PWS-6-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T21:58:00.000Z-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span>The latest Aircraft templates can be found here <a href="/wiki/Template:WPAVIATION_creator" title="Template:WPAVIATION creator">Template:WPAVIATION creator</a><a href="/wiki/User:Petebutt" title="User:Petebutt">Petebutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Petebutt" title="User talk:Petebutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T21:58:00.000Z-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T21:58:00.000Z-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Petebutt-2010-06-22T21:58:00.000Z-Petebutt-2010-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PWS-6" data-mw-thread-id="h-PWS-6-2010-06-24T21:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PWS-6-2010-06-24T21:46:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/PWS-6" title="PWS-6">PWS-6</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-PWS-6-2010-06-24T21:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=84" title="Edit section: PWS-6"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-06-24T21:46:00.000Z-PWS-6"></span>Hi. I've nominated <a href="/wiki/PWS-6" title="PWS-6">PWS-6</a>, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the <a href="/wiki/Main_Page" title="Main Page">Main Page</a> as part of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">Wikipedia:Did you know</a>. You can see the hook for the article <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#PWS-6" title="Template talk:Did you know">here</a>, where you can improve it if you see fit. — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Malik_Shabazz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Malik Shabazz (page does not exist)">Malik Shabazz</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malik_Shabazz" title="User talk:Malik Shabazz">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malik_Shabazz" title="Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz">Stalk</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-06-24T21:46:00.000Z-PWS-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)</a> (nominated on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">User:Piotrus</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-06-24T21:46:00.000Z-PWS-6"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-06-24T21:46:00.000Z-PWS-6"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PWS-5" data-mw-thread-id="h-PWS-5-2010-06-24T21:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PWS-5-2010-06-24T21:52:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/PWS-5" title="PWS-5">PWS-5</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-PWS-5-2010-06-24T21:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=85" title="Edit section: PWS-5"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-06-24T21:52:00.000Z-PWS-5"></span>Hi. I've nominated <a href="/wiki/PWS-5" title="PWS-5">PWS-5</a>, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the <a href="/wiki/Main_Page" title="Main Page">Main Page</a> as part of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">Wikipedia:Did you know</a>. You can see the hook for the article <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#PWS-5" title="Template talk:Did you know">here</a>, where you can improve it if you see fit. — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Malik_Shabazz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Malik Shabazz (page does not exist)">Malik Shabazz</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malik_Shabazz" title="User talk:Malik Shabazz">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malik_Shabazz" title="Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz">Stalk</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-06-24T21:52:00.000Z-PWS-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 24 June 2010 (UTC)</a> (nominated on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">User:Piotrus</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-06-24T21:52:00.000Z-PWS-5"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-06-24T21:52:00.000Z-PWS-5"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5-2010-06-27T02:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5-2010-06-27T02:53:00.000Z"></span>DYK nomination of PWS-5<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5-2010-06-27T02:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=86" title="Edit section: DYK nomination of PWS-5"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-27T02:53:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/25px-Symbol_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/38px-Symbol_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/50px-Symbol_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Hello! Your submission of <a href="/wiki/PWS-5" title="PWS-5">PWS-5</a> at the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:DYK">Did You Know nominations page</a> has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know_nominations/PWS-5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Did you know nominations/PWS-5 (page does not exist)">your nomination's entry</a></b> and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Rlevse" title="User:Rlevse"><b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlevse" title="User talk:Rlevse"><span style="color:#990;">Talk</span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlevse-2010-06-27T02:53:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:53, 27 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlevse-2010-06-27T02:53:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlevse-2010-06-27T02:53:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-5"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6-2010-06-29T08:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6-2010-06-29T08:32:00.000Z"></span>DYK nomination of PWS-6<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6-2010-06-29T08:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=87" title="Edit section: DYK nomination of PWS-6"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AustralianRupert-2010-06-29T08:32:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/25px-Symbol_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/38px-Symbol_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/50px-Symbol_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Hello! Your submission of <a href="/wiki/PWS-6" title="PWS-6">PWS-6</a> at the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:DYK">Did You Know nominations page</a> has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know_nominations/PWS-6&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Did you know nominations/PWS-6 (page does not exist)">your nomination's entry</a></b> and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <a href="/wiki/User:AustralianRupert" title="User:AustralianRupert">AustralianRupert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AustralianRupert" title="User talk:AustralianRupert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-AustralianRupert-2010-06-29T08:32:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AustralianRupert-2010-06-29T08:32:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AustralianRupert-2010-06-29T08:32:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Loosmark-2010-06-29T23:44:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6"></span>I made some minor grammar tweaks and added little extra on the propeller. <a href="/wiki/User:Loosmark" title="User:Loosmark"><span style="background:#acf;padding:2px;color:black; 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em"> <b>Dr. Loosmark</b> </span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Loosmark-2010-06-29T23:44:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Loosmark-2010-06-29T23:44:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Loosmark-2010-06-29T23:44:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_PWS-6"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_PWS-5" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_PWS-5-2010-07-02T06:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_PWS-5-2010-07-02T06:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for PWS-5<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_PWS-5-2010-07-02T06:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=88" title="Edit section: DYK for PWS-5"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NuclearWarfare-2010-07-02T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-5"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#July_2_2010" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">July 2, 2010</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/PWS-5" title="PWS-5">PWS-5</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201007/PWS-5">quick check</a> )</small> and add it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKSTATS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKSTATS">DYKSTATS</a> if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:NuclearWarfare" title="User:NuclearWarfare"><b style="color:navy;">NW</b></a> <i>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NuclearWarfare" title="User talk:NuclearWarfare"><span style="color:green;">Talk</span></a>)</i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-NuclearWarfare-2010-07-02T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 2 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NuclearWarfare-2010-07-02T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-5"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NuclearWarfare-2010-07-02T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-5"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_PWS-6" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_PWS-6-2010-07-02T18:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_PWS-6-2010-07-02T18:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for PWS-6<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_PWS-6-2010-07-02T18:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=89" title="Edit section: DYK for PWS-6"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlevse-2010-07-02T18:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-6"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#July_2_2010" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">July 2, 2010</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/PWS-6" title="PWS-6">PWS-6</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201007/PWS-6">quick check</a> )</small> and add it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKSTATS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKSTATS">DYKSTATS</a> if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Rlevse" title="User:Rlevse"><b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlevse" title="User talk:Rlevse"><span style="color:#990;">Talk</span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlevse-2010-07-02T18:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 2 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlevse-2010-07-02T18:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-6"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlevse-2010-07-02T18:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-6"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PWS-3_et_al" data-mw-thread-id="h-PWS-3_et_al-2010-07-13T13:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PWS-3_et_al-2010-07-13T13:52:00.000Z"></span>PWS-3 et al<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PWS-3_et_al-2010-07-13T13:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=90" title="Edit section: PWS-3 et al"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Petebutt-2010-07-13T13:52:00.000Z-PWS-3_et_al"></span>Hi , Did you know that it is usual for the author to set-up the talk pages with the wikiproject banners. I keep copies of lots of WP banners and just copy and paste when necessary, annotating the relevant task forces. What is frowned on is assessing your own articles. look at <a href="/wiki/Talk:PWS-3" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:PWS-3">Talk:PWS-3</a> for an example<a href="/wiki/User:Petebutt" title="User:Petebutt">Petebutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Petebutt" title="User talk:Petebutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Petebutt-2010-07-13T13:52:00.000Z-PWS-3_et_al" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Petebutt-2010-07-13T13:52:00.000Z-PWS-3_et_al"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Petebutt-2010-07-13T13:52:00.000Z-PWS-3_et_al"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bohatyrewicz" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bohatyrewicz-2010-07-15T10:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bohatyrewicz-2010-07-15T10:05:00.000Z"></span>Bohatyrewicz<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bohatyrewicz-2010-07-15T10:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=91" title="Edit section: Bohatyrewicz"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Camdan-2010-07-15T10:05:00.000Z-Bohatyrewicz"></span>Greetings!</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Why cutting the cathegories?</dd></dl> <p>Best regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Camdan" title="User:Camdan">Camdan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Camdan" title="User talk:Camdan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Camdan-2010-07-15T10:05:00.000Z-Bohatyrewicz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Camdan-2010-07-15T10:05:00.000Z-Bohatyrewicz"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Camdan-2010-07-15T10:05:00.000Z-Bohatyrewicz"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Camdan-2010-07-15T18:59:00.000Z-Bohatyrewicz"></span>Im not insisting on changes, I just ask. Thank You very much for taking time to answer. Only think I would think of is that Katyn was a camp but also of course a prison. Maybe leaving category "Prison" would be correct.</li></ul> <p>Best regards, Camil <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Camdan" title="User:Camdan">Camdan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Camdan" title="User talk:Camdan">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Camdan" title="Special:Contributions/Camdan">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Camdan-2010-07-15T18:59:00.000Z-Bohatyrewicz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Camdan-2010-07-15T18:59:00.000Z-Bohatyrewicz"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Camdan-2010-07-15T18:59:00.000Z-Bohatyrewicz"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PWS-3" data-mw-thread-id="h-PWS-3-2010-07-18T18:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PWS-3-2010-07-18T18:42:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/PWS-3" class="mw-redirect" title="PWS-3">PWS-3</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-PWS-3-2010-07-18T18:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=92" title="Edit section: PWS-3"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-18T18:42:00.000Z-PWS-3"></span>Hi. I've nominated <a href="/wiki/PWS-3" class="mw-redirect" title="PWS-3">PWS-3</a>, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the <a href="/wiki/Main_Page" title="Main Page">Main Page</a> as part of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">Wikipedia:Did you know</a>. You can see the hook for the article <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#PWS-3" title="Template talk:Did you know">here</a>, where you can improve it if you see fit. — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Malik_Shabazz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Malik Shabazz (page does not exist)">Malik Shabazz</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malik_Shabazz" title="User talk:Malik Shabazz">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malik_Shabazz" title="Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz">Stalk</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-18T18:42:00.000Z-PWS-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 18 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-18T18:42:00.000Z-PWS-3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-18T18:42:00.000Z-PWS-3"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Zbigniew_Babiński" data-mw-thread-id="h-Zbigniew_Babiński-2010-07-18T18:49:00.000Z"><span id="Zbigniew_Babi.C5.84ski"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Zbigniew_Babiński-2010-07-18T18:49:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Zbigniew_Babi%C5%84ski" title="Zbigniew Babiński">Zbigniew Babiński</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Zbigniew_Babiński-2010-07-18T18:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=93" title="Edit section: Zbigniew Babiński"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-18T18:49:00.000Z-Zbigniew_Babiński"></span>Hi. I've nominated <a href="/wiki/Zbigniew_Babi%C5%84ski" title="Zbigniew Babiński">Zbigniew Babiński</a>, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the <a href="/wiki/Main_Page" title="Main Page">Main Page</a> as part of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">Wikipedia:Did you know</a>. You can see the hook for the article <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#Zbigniew_Babiński" title="Template talk:Did you know">here</a>, where you can improve it if you see fit. — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Malik_Shabazz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Malik Shabazz (page does not exist)">Malik Shabazz</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malik_Shabazz" title="User talk:Malik Shabazz">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malik_Shabazz" title="Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz">Stalk</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-18T18:49:00.000Z-Zbigniew_Babiński" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 18 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-18T18:49:00.000Z-Zbigniew_Babiński"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-18T18:49:00.000Z-Zbigniew_Babiński"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_PWS-3" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_PWS-3"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_PWS-3"></span>DYK for PWS-3<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_PWS-3"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=94" title="Edit section: DYK for PWS-3"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#July_22_2010" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">July 22, 2010</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/PWS-3" class="mw-redirect" title="PWS-3">PWS-3</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201007/PWS-3">quick check</a> )</small> and add it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKSTATS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKSTATS">DYKSTATS</a> if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">The DYK project</a> (<a href="/wiki/T:TDYK" class="mw-redirect" title="T:TDYK">nominate</a>) 00:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński-2010-07-24T18:02:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babi.C5.84ski"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński-2010-07-24T18:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Zbigniew Babiński<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński-2010-07-24T18:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=95" title="Edit section: DYK for Zbigniew Babiński"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlevse-2010-07-24T18:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#July_24_2010" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">July 24, 2010</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Zbigniew_Babi%C5%84ski" title="Zbigniew Babiński">Zbigniew Babiński</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201007/Zbigniew_Babi%C5%84ski">quick check</a> )</small> and add it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKSTATS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKSTATS">DYKSTATS</a> if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Rlevse" title="User:Rlevse"><b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlevse" title="User talk:Rlevse"><span style="color:#990;">Talk</span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlevse-2010-07-24T18:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlevse-2010-07-24T18:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlevse-2010-07-24T18:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Zbigniew_Babiński"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PWS-4" data-mw-thread-id="h-PWS-4-2010-07-24T21:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PWS-4-2010-07-24T21:39:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/PWS-4" title="PWS-4">PWS-4</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-PWS-4-2010-07-24T21:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=96" title="Edit section: PWS-4"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-24T21:39:00.000Z-PWS-4"></span>Hi. I've nominated <a href="/wiki/PWS-4" title="PWS-4">PWS-4</a>, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the <a href="/wiki/Main_Page" title="Main Page">Main Page</a> as part of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">Wikipedia:Did you know</a>. You can see the hook for the article <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#PWS-4" title="Template talk:Did you know">here</a>, where you can improve it if you see fit. — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Malik_Shabazz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Malik Shabazz (page does not exist)">Malik Shabazz</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malik_Shabazz" title="User talk:Malik Shabazz">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malik_Shabazz" title="Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz">Stalk</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-24T21:39:00.000Z-PWS-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 24 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-24T21:39:00.000Z-PWS-4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Malik_Shabazz-2010-07-24T21:39:00.000Z-PWS-4"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_PWS-4" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_PWS-4-2010-07-31T06:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_PWS-4-2010-07-31T06:04:00.000Z"></span>DYK for PWS-4<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_PWS-4-2010-07-31T06:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=97" title="Edit section: DYK for PWS-4"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlevse-2010-07-31T06:04:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-4"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#July_31_2010" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">July 31, 2010</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/PWS-4" title="PWS-4">PWS-4</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201007/PWS-4">quick check</a> )</small> and add it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKSTATS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKSTATS">DYKSTATS</a> if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Rlevse" title="User:Rlevse"><b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlevse" title="User talk:Rlevse"><span style="color:#990;">Talk</span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Rlevse-2010-07-31T06:04:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:04, 31 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlevse-2010-07-31T06:04:00.000Z-DYK_for_PWS-4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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id="c-Bzuk-2010-12-24T22:40:00.000Z-Merry,_merry"></span><figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:PostcardIBringYouAMerryXmas1910.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/PostcardIBringYouAMerryXmas1910.jpg/150px-PostcardIBringYouAMerryXmas1910.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="225" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/PostcardIBringYouAMerryXmas1910.jpg/225px-PostcardIBringYouAMerryXmas1910.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/PostcardIBringYouAMerryXmas1910.jpg/300px-PostcardIBringYouAMerryXmas1910.jpg 2x" data-file-width="320" data-file-height="480"/></a><figcaption><a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">Bzuk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bzuk" title="User talk:Bzuk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2010-12-24T22:40:00.000Z-Merry,_merry" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 24 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2010-12-24T22:40:00.000Z-Merry,_merry"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2010-12-24T22:40:00.000Z-Merry,_merry"></span></figcaption></figure> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Autopatrolled" data-mw-thread-id="h-Autopatrolled-2011-01-25T14:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Autopatrolled-2011-01-25T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Autopatrolled<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Autopatrolled-2011-01-25T14:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=99" title="Edit section: 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This won't affect your editing, it just automatically marks any page you create as patrolled, benefiting <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">new page patrollers</a>. Please remember: </p> <ul><li>This permission does not give you any special status or authority</li> <li>Submission of inappropriate material may lead to its removal</li> <li>You may wish to display the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Autopatrolled" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Autopatrolled">Autopatrolled</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> top icon and/or the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:User_wikipedia/autopatrolled" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:User wikipedia/autopatrolled">User wikipedia/autopatrolled</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> userbox on your user page</li> <li>If, for any reason, you decide you do not want the permission, let me know and I can remove it</li></ul> <dl><dd>If you have any questions about the permission, don't hesitate to ask. Otherwise, happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:Acalamari" title="User:Acalamari">Acalamari</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Acalamari-2011-01-25T14:03:00.000Z-Autopatrolled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Acalamari-2011-01-25T14:03:00.000Z-Autopatrolled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Acalamari-2011-01-25T14:03:00.000Z-Autopatrolled"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PZL.50_Jastrząb" data-mw-thread-id="h-PZL.50_Jastrząb-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z"><span id="PZL.50_Jastrz.C4.85b"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PZL.50_Jastrząb-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/PZL.50_Jastrz%C4%85b" title="PZL.50 Jastrząb">PZL.50 Jastrząb</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-PZL.50_Jastrząb-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=100" title="Edit section: PZL.50 Jastrząb"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z-PZL.50_Jastrząb"></span>This article is very close to B-class. If you could just add the few missing cites, we could upgrade it. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk to me</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z-PZL.50_Jastrząb" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:09, 11 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z-PZL.50_Jastrząb"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z-PZL.50_Jastrząb"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T21:08:00.000Z-Piotrus-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z"></span>Tak jest, o zaznaczone. A potem bedzie mozna nominowac na <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GAN">WP:GAN</a>, mysle, za artykul jest blisko! --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk to me</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T21:08:00.000Z-Piotrus-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 11 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T21:08:00.000Z-Piotrus-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T21:08:00.000Z-Piotrus-2012-05-11T00:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T22:50:00.000Z-Piotrus-2012-05-11T21:08:00.000Z"></span>Dzieki, chyba nie trzeba. Na razie sprawdzam, ktore artykuly o Polsce plasuja sie do B+ klas. Jeszcze mi zostalo kilkaset do sprawdzenia... :> --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk to me</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T22:50:00.000Z-Piotrus-2012-05-11T21:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:50, 11 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T22:50:00.000Z-Piotrus-2012-05-11T21:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2012-05-11T22:50:00.000Z-Piotrus-2012-05-11T21:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2" data-mw-thread-id="h-PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2-2012-05-24T22:22:00.000Z"><span id="PZL_P.11_and_PZL_.C5.81.2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2-2012-05-24T22:22:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/PZL_P.11" title="PZL P.11">PZL P.11</a> and <a href="/wiki/PZL_%C5%81.2" title="PZL Ł.2">PZL Ł.2</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2-2012-05-24T22:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=101" title="Edit section: PZL P.11 and PZL Ł.2"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2012-05-24T22:22:00.000Z-PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2"></span>They are almost B-class, each of them needs just one para referenced for them to keep the B-class status. Will you have time to look at them? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk to me</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2012-05-24T22:22:00.000Z-PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:22, 24 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2012-05-24T22:22:00.000Z-PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2012-05-24T22:22:00.000Z-PZL_P.11_and_PZL_Ł.2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z"></span>Challenge International de Tourisme 1930<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=102" title="Edit section: Challenge International de Tourisme 1930"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeterWD-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2"></span>Hi Pibwl, noticed that you renamed the article from title above to International Touring Competition 1930. However, the articles for the other three years are named in the French style, and that is what is quoted elsewhere in articles, and in contemporary refs such as Flight. I only speak English, and like many of my fellow enthusiasts, I'm perfectly happy to read and understand titles in the common names in various languages, eg for aircraft, museums, airports, etc. I would be most pleased if you will rename the title over the redirect. MTIA, <a href="/wiki/User:PeterWD" title="User:PeterWD">PeterWD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeterWD" title="User talk:PeterWD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-PeterWD-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:17, 6 August 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeterWD-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeterWD-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z-Challenge_International_de_Tourisme_1930_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeterWD-2012-08-09T08:50:00.000Z-PeterWD-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your agreement. Just done the move. I agree that Flight uses different names, inconsistently; I hope we can standardize the names for disambiguation. I am mostly just categorizing images and uploading some to add to aircraft articles with no illustrations. Please see my contribs for aircraft types that might benefit from your linking all the Challenge stuff together, especially for non-English WP projects.<a href="/wiki/User:PeterWD" title="User:PeterWD">PeterWD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeterWD" title="User talk:PeterWD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-PeterWD-2012-08-09T08:50:00.000Z-PeterWD-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeterWD-2012-08-09T08:50:00.000Z-PeterWD-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeterWD-2012-08-09T08:50:00.000Z-PeterWD-2012-08-06T07:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Season's_tidings!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Season's_tidings!-2012-12-22T01:56:00.000Z"><span id="Season.27s_tidings.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Season's_tidings!-2012-12-22T01:56:00.000Z"></span>Season's tidings!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Season's_tidings!-2012-12-22T01:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=103" title="Edit section: Season's tidings!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bzuk-2012-12-22T01:56:00.000Z-Season's_tidings!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Christmas_lights_-_1.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Christmas_lights_-_1.jpg/100px-Christmas_lights_-_1.jpg" decoding="async" width="100" height="150" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Christmas_lights_-_1.jpg/150px-Christmas_lights_-_1.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Christmas_lights_-_1.jpg/200px-Christmas_lights_-_1.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1600" data-file-height="2400"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! <a href="/wiki/User:Bzuk" title="User:Bzuk">FWiW Bzuk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bzuk" title="User talk:Bzuk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Bzuk-2012-12-22T01:56:00.000Z-Season's_tidings!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:56, 22 December 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bzuk-2012-12-22T01:56:00.000Z-Season's_tidings!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bzuk-2012-12-22T01:56:00.000Z-Season's_tidings!"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Another_panzerfaust_copy!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_panzerfaust_copy!-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z"><span id="Another_panzerfaust_copy.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Another_panzerfaust_copy!-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z"></span>Another panzerfaust copy!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Another_panzerfaust_copy!-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=104" title="Edit section: Another panzerfaust copy!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z-Another_panzerfaust_copy!"></span>Very interesting source. A Polish PC 100 version. Excellent. Pzrfst. "copies" are being identified a lot now. There has already been a Swedish version isolated and recorded. Good spot my friend. <a href="/wiki/User:Irondome" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Irondome">Irondome</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Irondome" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Irondome">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z-Another_panzerfaust_copy!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z-Another_panzerfaust_copy!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z-Another_panzerfaust_copy!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:40:00.000Z-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z"></span>that would most interesting. I notice you do not wish email however as preference, but mine is enabled, and you are welcome to email me. I obviously do not wish to give my mail on talk. Kind regards <a href="/wiki/User:Irondome" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Irondome">Irondome</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Irondome" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Irondome">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:40:00.000Z-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 4 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:40:00.000Z-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:40:00.000Z-Irondome-2013-02-04T23:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan-2013-02-05T00:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan-2013-02-05T00:54:00.000Z"></span>Russian armored cruiser Bayan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan-2013-02-05T00:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=105" title="Edit section: Russian armored cruiser Bayan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sturmvogel_66-2013-02-05T00:54:00.000Z-Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan"></span>I don't read Russian so I'd be very happy if you could add information from the book that I don't already have mentioned. Just be sure to cite them in the same format as the existing cites.--<a href="/wiki/User:Sturmvogel_66" title="User:Sturmvogel 66">Sturmvogel 66</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sturmvogel_66" title="User talk:Sturmvogel 66">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Sturmvogel_66-2013-02-05T00:54:00.000Z-Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sturmvogel_66-2013-02-05T00:54:00.000Z-Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sturmvogel_66-2013-02-05T00:54:00.000Z-Russian_armored_cruiser_Bayan"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:RWD-6.jpg_missing_description_details" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:RWD-6.jpg_missing_description_details-2013-04-12T22:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:RWD-6.jpg_missing_description_details-2013-04-12T22:37:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:RWD-6.jpg" title="File:RWD-6.jpg">File:RWD-6.jpg</a> missing description details<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:RWD-6.jpg_missing_description_details-2013-04-12T22:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=106" title="Edit section: File:RWD-6.jpg missing description details"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="padding:5px; background-color:#E1F1DE;"><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Theo's_Little_Bot-2013-04-12T22:37:00.000Z-File:RWD-6.jpg_missing_description_details"></span>Dear uploader:</b> The media file you uploaded as: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/File:RWD-6.jpg" title="File:RWD-6.jpg">File:RWD-6.jpg</a></li></ul> <p>is missing a description and/or other details on its image description page. 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This first issue was sent to all active members of the project and its <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation#Sub-projects" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation">sub-projects</a>. If you wish to continue receiving <i>The WikiEagle</i>, you can add your username to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation/WikiEagle/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/WikiEagle/Subscribe">mailing list</a>. For now the newsletter only covers general project news and is run by only one editor. If you wish to help or to become a columnist, please <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/WikiEagle" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/WikiEagle">let us know</a>. If you have an idea which you believe would improve the newsletter, please share it; suggestions are welcome and encouraged.</li> <li>On 16 December, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_361#RfC:_Reliability_of_theaerodrome.com" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 361">an RfC was closed</a> which determined <i>theaerodrome.com</i> to be an unreliable source. The website, which is <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22theaerodrome.com%22&ns0=1">cited over 1,500 articles</a>, mainly on WWI aviation, as of the publishing of this issue.</li> <li><i>Luft46.com</i> has been added to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation/Resources#Problematic_sources" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Resources">list of problematic sources</a> after <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Resources#Luft'46_and_The_Aerodrome" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Resources">this discussion</a>.</li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Jim_Lovell" title="Jim Lovell">Jim Lovell</a> article was <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Jim_Lovell/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Jim Lovell/archive1">promoted</a></b> to <i>Featured Article</i> status on 26 December after being nominated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hawkeye7">Hawkeye7</a></span>.</li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Raymond_Hesselyn" title="Raymond Hesselyn">Raymond Hesselyn</a> article was <b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Raymond_Hesselyn/GA1" title="Talk:Raymond Hesselyn/GA1">promoted</a></b> to <i>Good Article</i> status on 4 December after being nominated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zawed">Zawed</a></span>.</li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Supermarine_Sea_King" title="Supermarine Sea King">Supermarine Sea King</a> article was <b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Supermarine_Sea_King/GA1" title="Talk:Supermarine Sea King/GA1">promoted</a></b> to <i>Good Article</i> status on 22 December after being nominated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amitchell125">Amitchell125</a></span>.</li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/William_Hodgson_(RAF_officer)" title="William Hodgson (RAF officer)">William Hodgson (RAF officer)</a> article was <b><a href="/wiki/Talk:William_Hodgson_(RAF_officer)/GA1" title="Talk:William Hodgson (RAF officer)/GA1">promoted</a></b> to <i>Good Article</i> status on 26 December after being nominated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zawed">Zawed</a></span>.</li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding:5px; vertical-align:top;"><span style="font-size:22px;"><b>Members</b></span> <hr/> <p><b>New Members</b> </p> <ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KingAviationKid">KingAviationKid</a></span> (Joined on 17 December)</li> <li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PatrickChiao">PatrickChiao</a></span> (Joined on 22 December)</li> <li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wp9097">Wp9097</a></span> (Joined on 16 December)</li></ul> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1184024115">.mw-parser-output .div-col{margin-top:0.3em;column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .div-col-small{font-size:90%}.mw-parser-output .div-col-rules{column-rule:1px solid #aaa}.mw-parser-output .div-col dl,.mw-parser-output .div-col ol,.mw-parser-output .div-col ul{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .div-col li,.mw-parser-output .div-col dd{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}</style><div class="div-col" style="column-width: 15em;">Number of active members: 386. Total number of members: 921.</div> <hr/> <p><span style="font-size:22px;"><b>Closed Discussions</b></span> </p> <hr/> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Cscr-featured.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Cscr-featured.svg/20px-Cscr-featured.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Cscr-featured.svg/30px-Cscr-featured.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Cscr-featured.svg/40px-Cscr-featured.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="466" data-file-height="443"/></a></span> <b>Featured Article assessment</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Jim_Lovell" title="Jim Lovell">Jim Lovell</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Jim_Lovell/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Jim Lovell/archive1">discussion</a>) – Closed as <b>promoted</b> on 26 December 2021</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Good Article assessment</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/HAL_Tejas" title="HAL Tejas">HAL Tejas</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:HAL_Tejas/GA3" title="Talk:HAL Tejas/GA3">discussion</a>) – Closed as <b>not promoted</b> on 30 December 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/William_Hodgson_(RAF_officer)" title="William Hodgson (RAF officer)">William Hodgson (RAF officer)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:William_Hodgson_(RAF_officer)/GA1" title="Talk:William Hodgson (RAF officer)/GA1">discussion</a>) – Closed as <b>promoted</b> on 26 December 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Supermarine_Sea_King" title="Supermarine Sea King">Supermarine Sea King</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Supermarine_Sea_King/GA1" title="Talk:Supermarine Sea King/GA1">discussion</a>) – Closed as <b>promoted</b> on 22 December 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Raymond_Hesselyn" title="Raymond Hesselyn">Raymond Hesselyn</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Raymond_Hesselyn/GA1" title="Talk:Raymond Hesselyn/GA1">discussion</a>) – Closed as <b>promoted</b> on 4 December 2021</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_delete_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Deletion</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Timeline_of_Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport%27s_construction" class="mw-redirect" title="Timeline of Berlin Brandenburg Airport's construction">Timeline of Berlin Brandenburg Airport's construction</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Timeline_of_Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport%27s_construction" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of Berlin Brandenburg Airport's construction">discussion</a>) – Closed as <b>delete and redirect</b> on 30 December 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Evergreen_International_Airlines_Flight_17" title="Evergreen International Airlines Flight 17">Evergreen International Airlines Flight 17</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Evergreen_International_Airlines_Flight_17" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evergreen International Airlines Flight 17">discussion</a>) – Closed as <b>keep</b> on 25 December 2021</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_move_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Requested moves</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Akbarpur_(Ambedkar_Nagar)_Airstrip" class="mw-redirect" title="Akbarpur (Ambedkar Nagar) Airstrip">Akbarpur (Ambedkar Nagar) Airstrip</a> → <a href="/wiki/Akbarpur_Airstrip" title="Akbarpur Airstrip">Akbarpur Airstrip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Akbarpur_Airstrip#Requested_move_23_December_2021" title="Talk:Akbarpur Airstrip">discussion</a>) – Closed as <b>moved</b> on 30 December 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/1983_Avensa_Douglas_DC-9_crash" class="mw-redirect" title="1983 Avensa Douglas DC-9 crash">1983 Avensa Douglas DC-9 crash</a> → <a href="/wiki/Avensa_Flight_007" title="Avensa Flight 007">Avensa Flight 007</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Avensa_Flight_007#Requested_move_5_December_2021" title="Talk:Avensa Flight 007">discussion</a>) – Closed as <b>moved</b> on 30 December 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Garuda_Indonesia_Flight_035" title="Garuda Indonesia Flight 035">Garuda Indonesia Flight 035</a> → <a href="/w/index.php?title=Garuda_Indonesian_Airways_Flight_035&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 035 (page does not exist)">Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 035</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Garuda_Indonesia_Flight_035#Requested_move_28_December_2021" title="Talk:Garuda Indonesia Flight 035">discussion</a>) – <b>Withdrawn</b> on 28 December 2021</li></ul> </td> <td width="50%" style="padding:5px; vertical-align:top;"><span style="font-size:22px;"><b>Article Statistics</b></span><br/><span style="font-size:12px;">This data reflects values from DMY.</span> <hr/> <table class="ratingstable wikitable plainlinks" style="text-align: right;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="3" class="ratingstabletitle">Aviation pages by quality </th></tr> <tr> <th rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: bottom"><b>Quality</b> </th></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align: center;"><b>Total</b> </th></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-fa" style="color:inherit; background: #9cbdff; text-align: center;"><span title="Featured article"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Featured_article_star.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Featured article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/16px-Featured_article_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/24px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/32px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="180"/></a></span></span> <b><a href="/wiki/Category:FA-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:FA-Class aviation articles">FA</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=FA-Class">142</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-fl" style="color:inherit; background: #9cbdff; text-align: center;"><span title="Featured list"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Featured_article_star.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Featured list"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/16px-Featured_article_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/24px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/32px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="180"/></a></span></span> <b><a href="/wiki/Category:FL-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:FL-Class aviation articles">FL</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=FL-Class">15</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-a" style="color:inherit; background: #66ffff; text-align:center;"><span title="A-Class article"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_a_class.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="A-Class article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Symbol_a_class.svg/16px-Symbol_a_class.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Symbol_a_class.svg/24px-Symbol_a_class.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Symbol_a_class.svg/32px-Symbol_a_class.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span></span> <b><a href="/wiki/Category:A-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:A-Class aviation articles">A</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=A-Class">56</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-ga" style="color:inherit; background: #66ff66; text-align: center;"><span title="Good article"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Good article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span></span> <b><a href="/wiki/Category:GA-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:GA-Class aviation articles">GA</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=GA-Class">505</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-b" style="color:inherit; background: #b2ff66; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:B-Class aviation articles">B</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=B-Class">4,573</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-c" style="color:inherit; background: #ffff66; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:C-Class aviation articles">C</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=C-Class">11,878</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-start" style="color:inherit; background: #ffaa66; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:Start-Class aviation articles">Start</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Start-Class">15,082</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-stub" style="color:inherit; background: #ffa4a4; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Stub-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:Stub-Class aviation articles">Stub</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Stub-Class">18,754</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-list" style="color:inherit; background: #c7b1ff; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:List-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:List-Class aviation articles">List</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=List-Class">2,539</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-category" style="color:inherit; background: #ffdb58; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Category-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:Category-Class aviation articles">Category</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Category-Class">11,638</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-disambig" style="color:inherit; background: #00fa9a; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Disambig-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:Disambig-Class aviation articles">Disambig</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Disambig-Class">653</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-File" style="color:inherit; background: #ddccff; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:File-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:File-Class aviation articles">File</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=File-Class">2,713</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-portal" style="color:inherit; background: #ddb1bc; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Portal-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:Portal-Class aviation articles">Portal</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Portal-Class">629</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-project" style="color:inherit; background: #c0c090; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Project-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:Project-Class aviation articles">Project</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Project-Class">89</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-redirect" style="color:inherit; background: #c0c0c0; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Redirect-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:Redirect-Class aviation articles">Redirect</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Redirect-Class">1,518</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-template" style="color:inherit; background: #fbceb1; text-align: center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:Template-Class aviation articles">Template</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Template-Class">2,489</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-na" style="color:inherit; background: #f5f5f5; text-align: center;"><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-Class_aviation_articles" title="Category:NA-Class aviation articles">NA</a> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=NA-Class">66</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center"><b>Assessed</b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Assessed-Class">73,339</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="assess-unassessed" style="color:inherit; background: #dcdcdc; text-align:center;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Unassessed_aviation_articles" title="Category:Unassessed aviation articles">Unassessed</a></b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles?quality=Unassessed-Class">1</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;"><b>Total</b> </td> <td><b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Aviation/articles">73,340</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" colspan="2"><b>WikiWork factors</b> (<a href="/wiki/User:WP_1.0_bot/WikiWork/faq" title="User:WP 1.0 bot/WikiWork/faq"><span style="color:blue">?</span></a>) </td> <td style="text-align: center;" colspan="3">ω = <b> <span data-sort-value="7005251827000000000♠">251,827</span></b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" colspan="3">Ω = <b> 4.92</b> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="padding:5px; vertical-align:top;"><span style="font-size:22px;"><b>New/Ongoing Discussions</b></span> <hr/> <style 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Cscr-candidate.svg/20px-Cscr-candidate.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Cscr-candidate.svg/30px-Cscr-candidate.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Cscr-candidate.svg/40px-Cscr-candidate.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="522" data-file-height="438"/></a></span> <b>Featured Article review</b> </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/D._B._Cooper" title="D. B. Cooper">D. B. Cooper</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/D._B._Cooper/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article review/D. B. Cooper/archive1">discussion</a>) – Since 14 December 2021</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_a_class.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Symbol_a_class.svg/20px-Symbol_a_class.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Symbol_a_class.svg/30px-Symbol_a_class.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Symbol_a_class.svg/40px-Symbol_a_class.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>A-class Article assessment</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Granville_Gee_Bee_Model_A" title="Granville Gee Bee Model A">Granville Gee Bee Model A</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation/Assessment/Granville_Gee_Bee_Model_A" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Assessment/Granville Gee Bee Model A">discussion</a>) – Since 21 April 2020</li> <li><a href="/wiki/List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_Iraq_War" title="List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the Iraq War">List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the Iraq War</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation/Assessment/List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_Iraq_War" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Assessment/List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the Iraq War">discussion</a>) – Since 22 February 2010</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Good Article assessment</b> </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Romanian_Air_Corps" title="Romanian Air Corps">Romanian Air Corps</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Romanian_Air_Corps/GA1" title="Talk:Romanian Air Corps/GA1">discussion</a>) – Since 25 December 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Jean_Batten" title="Jean Batten">Jean Batten</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Jean_Batten/GA1" title="Talk:Jean Batten/GA1">discussion</a>) – Since 2 October 2021</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_merge_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Symbol_merge_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_merge_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Symbol_merge_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_merge_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Symbol_merge_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_merge_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Merger proposals</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/List_of_astronauts_by_name" title="List of astronauts by name">List of astronauts by name</a> → <a href="/wiki/List_of_astronauts_by_year_of_selection" title="List of astronauts by year of selection">List of astronauts by year of selection</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_astronauts_by_year_of_selection#Merge_from_List_of_astronauts_by_name" title="Talk:List of astronauts by year of selection">discussion</a>) – Since 10 August 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/List_of_cosmonauts" title="List of cosmonauts">List of cosmonauts</a> → <a href="/wiki/List_of_space_travelers_by_nationality" title="List of space travelers by nationality">List of space travelers by nationality</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_space_travelers_by_nationality#Merge_from_List_of_cosmonauts" title="Talk:List of space travelers by nationality">discussion</a>) – Since 10 August 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/List_of_space_travelers_by_name" class="mw-redirect" title="List of space travelers by name">List of space travelers by name</a> → <a href="/wiki/List_of_space_travelers_by_nationality" title="List of space travelers by nationality">List of space travelers by nationality</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_space_travelers_by_nationality#Merge_from_List_of_space_travelers_by_name" title="Talk:List of space travelers by nationality">discussion</a>) – Since 10 August 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Holidays_Czech_Airlines" class="mw-redirect" title="Holidays Czech Airlines">Holidays Czech Airlines</a> → <a href="/wiki/Czech_Airlines" title="Czech Airlines">Czech Airlines</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Czech_Airlines#Proposed_merge_of_Holidays_Czech_Airlines_into_Czech_Airlines" title="Talk:Czech Airlines">discussion</a>) – Since 23 June 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Bendix_Aviation" class="mw-redirect" title="Bendix Aviation">Bendix Aviation</a> → <a href="/wiki/Bendix_Corporation" title="Bendix Corporation">Bendix Corporation</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Bendix_Corporation#Merger_Proposal" title="Talk:Bendix Corporation">discussion</a>) – Since 30 May 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Airport_Movement_Area_Safety_System" class="mw-redirect" title="Airport Movement Area Safety System">Airport Movement Area Safety System</a> → <a href="/wiki/Airport_Surface_Surveillance_Capability" class="mw-redirect" title="Airport Surface Surveillance Capability">Airport Surface Surveillance Capability</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Airport_Surface_Surveillance_Capability#Merger_Proposal" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Airport Surface Surveillance Capability">discussion</a>) – Since 29 May 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/ASDE-X" class="mw-redirect" title="ASDE-X">ASDE-X</a> → <a href="/wiki/Airport_Surface_Surveillance_Capability" class="mw-redirect" title="Airport Surface Surveillance Capability">Airport Surface Surveillance Capability</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Airport_Surface_Surveillance_Capability#Merger_Proposal" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Airport Surface Surveillance Capability">discussion</a>) – Since 28 May 2021</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_split_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Symbol_split_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_split_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Symbol_split_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_split_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Symbol_split_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_split_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Splitting proposals</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Family_Airlines" title="Family Airlines">Family Airlines</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Family_Airlines#Proposed_article_split_for_Avatar_Airlines_content" title="Talk:Family Airlines">discussion</a>) – Since 23 November 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/2021_Kabul_airport_attack" title="2021 Kabul airport attack">2021 Kabul airport attack</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2021_Kabul_airport_attack#Splitting_proposal" title="Talk:2021 Kabul airport attack">discussion</a>) – Since 24 September 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_the_United_States" class="mw-redirect" title="List of military aircraft of the United States">List of military aircraft of the United States</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_military_aircraft_of_the_United_States#Splitting_proposal" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:List of military aircraft of the United States">discussion</a>) – Since 16 August 2021</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Braniff_International_Airways" title="Braniff International Airways">Braniff International Airways</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Braniff_International_Airways#History_of_Braniff_International_Airways" title="Talk:Braniff International Airways">discussion</a>) – Since 8 September 2019</li></ul> <p><br/> </p> </td> <td class="col-break col-break-2"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_delete_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Deletion</b> </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/w/index.php?title=List_of_maiden_voyages&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="List of maiden voyages (page does not exist)">List of maiden voyages</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_maiden_voyages_(2nd_nomination)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of maiden voyages (2nd nomination)">discussion</a>) – Since 29 December 2021</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_move_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Requested moves</b> </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Hot-air_balloon" class="mw-redirect" title="Hot-air balloon">Hot-air balloon</a> → <a href="/wiki/Hot_air_balloon" title="Hot air balloon">Hot air balloon</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Hot-air_balloon#Requested_move_30_December_2021" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Hot-air balloon">discussion</a>) – Since 30 December 2021</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Aeropostal_Alas_de_Venezuela_Flight_108" title="Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 108">Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 108</a> → <a href="/w/index.php?title=Aeropostal_Alas_de_Venezuela_Flight_109&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 109 (page does not exist)">Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 109</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Aeropostal_Alas_de_Venezuela_Flight_108#Requested_move_28_December_2021" title="Talk:Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 108">discussion</a>) – Since 28 December 2021</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Garuda_Indonesia_Flight_150" class="mw-redirect" title="Garuda Indonesia Flight 150">Garuda Indonesia Flight 150</a> → <a href="/wiki/Garuda_Indonesian_Airways_Flight_150" title="Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 150">Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 150</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Garuda_Indonesia_Flight_035#Requested_move_28_December_2021" title="Talk:Garuda Indonesia Flight 035">discussion</a>) – Since 28 December 2021</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Garuda_Indonesia_Flight_206" class="mw-redirect" title="Garuda Indonesia Flight 206">Garuda Indonesia Flight 206</a> → <a href="/wiki/Garuda_Indonesian_Airways_Flight_206" title="Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 206">Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 206</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Garuda_Indonesia_Flight_035#Requested_move_28_December_2021" title="Talk:Garuda Indonesia Flight 035">discussion</a>) – Since 28 December 2021</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Garuda_Indonesia_Flight_708" class="mw-redirect" title="Garuda Indonesia Flight 708">Garuda Indonesia Flight 708</a> → <a href="/wiki/Garuda_Indonesian_Airways_Flight_708" title="Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 708">Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 708</a></b> (<a 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The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. </p><p>Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. </p> </div> <p><sub><span style="color:#2C5E1A; font-style: italic">- Signed by </span></sub><a href="/wiki/User:NeverTry4Me" title="User:NeverTry4Me"><span style="color:#2C5E1A; font-family:Impact;">NeverTry4Me</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:NeverTry4Me" title="User talk:NeverTry4Me"><span style="color:#2C5E1A;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-NeverTry4Me-2022-06-03T08:23:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:23, 3 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NeverTry4Me-2022-06-03T08:23:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NeverTry4Me-2022-06-03T08:23:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion_2-2022-06-03T08:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion_2-2022-06-03T08:56:00.000Z"></span>Nomination of <a href="/wiki/Partisan_Cross" title="Partisan Cross">Partisan Cross</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion_2-2022-06-03T08:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=115" title="Edit section: Nomination of Partisan Cross for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="afd-notice"> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NeverTry4Me-2022-06-03T08:56:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article <b><a href="/wiki/Partisan_Cross" title="Partisan Cross">Partisan Cross</a></b> is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. <p>The article will be discussed at <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross_(2nd_nomination)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Partisan Cross (2nd nomination) (page does not exist)">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Partisan Cross (2nd nomination)</a> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 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However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. </p> </div> <p><sub><span style="color:#2C5E1A; font-style: italic">- Signed by </span></sub><a href="/wiki/User:NeverTry4Me" title="User:NeverTry4Me"><span style="color:#2C5E1A; font-family:Impact;">NeverTry4Me</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:NeverTry4Me" title="User talk:NeverTry4Me"><span style="color:#2C5E1A;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-NeverTry4Me-2022-06-03T08:56:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NeverTry4Me-2022-06-03T08:56:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NeverTry4Me-2022-06-03T08:56:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Partisan_Cross_for_deletion_2"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Co_do_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross" data-mw-thread-id="h-Co_do_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross-2022-06-04T23:24:00.000Z"><span id="Co_do_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FPartisan_Cross"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Co_do_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross-2022-06-04T23:24:00.000Z"></span>Co do <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Partisan Cross">Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Co_do_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross-2022-06-04T23:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=116" title="Edit section: Co do Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2022-06-04T23:24:00.000Z-Co_do_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross"></span>Re: " I may easily create references to Polish law acts constituting the cross, which are official source". Tylko to nic nie pomoże, bo <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIMARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIMARY">WP:PRIMARY</a> sources nie udowadniają ENCY czyli tu <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>. Źróła, które ja znalazłem, są o wiele lepsze, jakbyś miał dostęp do nich, do z takich trzeba korzystać. Dziennik Ustaw itp. to są słabe źródła (pod kątem ENCY). Dlatego to zgłoszenie było dobre - hasło trzeba poprawić. Co prawda, zgłaszający powinien zrobić lepszą kwerendę, ale wisieć w tym stanie sprzed lat nastu nie powinno. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Piotrus-2022-06-04T23:24:00.000Z-Co_do_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 4 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2022-06-04T23:24:00.000Z-Co_do_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2022-06-04T23:24:00.000Z-Co_do_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Partisan_Cross"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2022_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2022_Elections_voter_message-20221129002500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2022_Elections_voter_message-20221129002500"></span>ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2022_Elections_voter_message-20221129002500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=117" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #AAA; background-color: ivory; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em; flex: 1 0 40px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20221129002500-ArbCom_2022_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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I think that's what you meant, but wanted to make sure I wasn't misinterpreting. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Parsecboy" title="User:Parsecboy">Parsecboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Parsecboy" title="User talk:Parsecboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Parsecboy-20221208130200-Emden" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 8 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Parsecboy-20221208130200-Emden"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Parsecboy-20221208130200-Emden"></span> </p> <div class="user-block unblock-reviewed" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: var(--background-color-warning-subtle, #fdf2d5); color: inherit;"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pibwl-20231024192600-Emden"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/48px-Appointment_red.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/72px-Appointment_red.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/96px-Appointment_red.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <b>This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">administrator</a>, who declined the request.</b> Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocking policy</a>). <p><a href="/wiki/User:Pibwl" title="User:Pibwl">Pibwl</a> <span class="plainlinks" style="font-size:88%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Pibwl">block log</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:BlockList&action=search&ip=Pibwl">active blocks</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:GlobalBlockList&ip=Pibwl">global blocks</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pibwl" title="Special:Contributions/Pibwl">contribs</a><span class="sysop-show"> • <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Pibwl" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Pibwl">deleted contribs</a></span> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Pibwl">filter log</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=newusers&user=Pibwl">creation log</a><span class="sysop-show"> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Pibwl" title="Special:Block/Pibwl">change block settings</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:BlockList&action=unblock&ip=Pibwl">unblock</a></span><span class="checkuser-show"> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Pibwl&reason=%5B%5BUser+talk%3APibwl%5D%5D%2C+unblock+request">checkuser</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUserLog&cuSearch=Pibwl">log</a>)</span>)</span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <hr/> <p><b>Request reason</b>: </p> <div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 2em;"> <p>Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. My IP address is 91.215.46.65. Place any further information here. <a href="/wiki/User:Pibwl" title="User:Pibwl">Pibwl</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">←«</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Pibwl-20231024192600-Emden" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pibwl-20231024192600-Emden"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pibwl-20231024192600-Emden"></span> </p> </div> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yamla-20231024200700-Emden"></span>Decline reason</b>: </p> <div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 2em;"> <p>Confirmed p2p proxy. 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I don't know if it is open proxy - I have the same web provider and router since about 5 years. </p> </div> <p><b>Accept reason</b>: </p> <div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 2em;"> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IPBE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IPBE">WP:IPBE</a> granted. <a href="/wiki/User:Jpgordon" title="User:Jpgordon">--jpgordon</a><sup><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jpgordon" title="User talk:Jpgordon">𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇</a></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Jpgordon-20231025025700-Emden" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jpgordon-20231025025700-Emden"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jpgordon-20231025025700-Emden"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction_has_been_nominated_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction_has_been_nominated_for_deletion-20231104141000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction_has_been_nominated_for_deletion-20231104141000"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Polish-Americans in fiction (page does not exist)">Category:Polish-Americans in fiction</a> has been nominated for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction_has_been_nominated_for_deletion-20231104141000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=119" title="Edit section: Category:Polish-Americans in fiction has been nominated for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20231104141000-Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction_has_been_nominated_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Polish-Americans in fiction (page does not exist)">Category:Polish-Americans in fiction</a> has been nominated for deletion. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pibwl#c-Marcocapelle-20231104141000-Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction_has_been_nominated_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20231104141000-Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction_has_been_nominated_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20231104141000-Category:Polish-Americans_in_fiction_has_been_nominated_for_deletion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-20231128002000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-20231128002000"></span>ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-20231128002000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pibwl&action=edit&section=120" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #AAA; background-color: ivory; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em; flex: 1 0 40px; max-width: 100px"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231128002000-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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Your recent edit to the <a href="/wiki/MiG-15" class="mw-redirect" title="MiG-15">MiG-15</a> article characterizes the UMiG-15MT as a <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">conversion for two-seat trainers</q>. The nature of the conversion is unclear; I think the meaning has been lost in translation. I do not have access to the cited source and I cannot read the Polish language. Is the UMiG-15MT a conversion <i>of</i> a two-seat trainer to perform some other mission, a conversion of a two-seat trainer <i>into</i> a single-seat fighter, or a conversion of a single-seat fighter <i>into</i> a two-seat trainer? 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