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font-size: 150%; color: #FF5511; font-family: 'Copperplate Gothic Light'">VOTE OPPOSE</div> <p>No signs that the Arbitration Committee is in any form willing to change for the better (as expected). </p><p>For years we have been complaining about anchoring, about railroading, about bias. When someone comes before ArbCom, ArbCom <i>has</i> to sanction, no matter how feeble the evidence is. They do not care to properly present the evidence that they make decisions on. They do not care whether the editor has been trying to improve since. And when an editor comes again in front of ArbCom, they will just increase the sanctions - they have been here before so they <i>must</i> be guilty. </p> It is becoming more and more clear that there is no will, nor possibility to improve.<sup><a href="/wiki/User:Flyer22_Frozen" title="User:Flyer22 Frozen">1</a></sup> This institute should be abandoned - NOW</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/> </p> <table style="margin-top:.1em; margin-bottom:.1em; border:1px solid #8DB9F6; background-color:#E9F2DE; padding:.1em" align="center"><tbody><tr><td width="55%"> <div style="margin-top:.1em; margin-bottom:.1em; border:1px solid #8DB9F6; background-color:#E9F2FE; padding:.1em"><div align="center">Welcome to my talk page.<br/> <p>Please leave me a note by starting a new subject <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=edit&section=new">here</a><br/>and please don't forget to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SIG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SIG">sign</a> your post<br/> </p> <div align="center" style="color:#FF0000">You may want to have a look at the subjects<br/>in the header of this talkpage before starting a new subject.<br/>The question you may have may already have been answered there</div><br/></div><div align="right">Dirk Beetstra </div> </div></td><td><table class="plainlinks qxz-ads" style="color:#555555;border:none;line-height:1em;font-size:90%;display:block;overflow:auto;max-width:477px;margin:0 auto"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="border:none"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red"><img alt="Wikipedia ad for Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/WikiProject_Women_in_Red_ad.gif" decoding="async" width="468" height="60" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="468" data-file-height="60"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><td style="border:none"><a href="/wiki/Template:Wikipedia_ads" title="Template:Wikipedia ads"><span style="color:#002bb8">Wikipedia ads</span></a></td><td style="text-align:right;border:none"><a href="/wiki/File:WikiProject_Women_in_Red_ad.gif" title="File:WikiProject Women in Red ad.gif"><span style="color:#002bb8">file info</span></a> – <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=purge"><span style="color:#002bb8">show another</span></a> – #282</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"> <div align="center"><div style="align: center; border: 5px solid #000000; -moz-border-radius: 15px 15px 15px 15px; background: #000000; padding:1px; width:97%; color: #dd3333; font-size: 125%; align: center; margin-bottom:10px;">I am the main operator of <a href="/wiki/User:COIBot" title="User:COIBot">User:COIBot</a>. If you feel that your name is wrongly on the COI reports list because of an unfortunate overlap between your username and a certain link or text, please ask for whitelisting by starting a <b>new subject <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=edit&section=new">on my talkpage</a></b>. For a better answer please include some specific 'diffs' of your edits (you can copy the link from the report page). If you want a quicker response, make your case at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WPSPAM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WPSPAM">WT:WPSPAM</a></b> or <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COIN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COIN">WP:COIN</a></b>.<br/> <small><a href="/wiki/User:COIBot" title="User:COIBot">COIBot</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:COIBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:COIBot">Talk to COIBot</a> - <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/COIReports" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/COIReports">listings</a> - <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports">Link reports</a> - <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/UserReports" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/UserReports">User reports</a> - <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/PageReports" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/PageReports">Page reports</a></small></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table style="margin-top:.1em; margin-bottom:.1em; border:1px solid #8DB9F6; background-color:#E9F2DE; padding:.1em" align="center"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:top" width="50%"><div style="margin-top:.1em; margin-bottom:.1em; border:1px solid #8DB9F6; background-color:#E9F2FE; padding:.1em"><div align="center"><b>Responding</b></div> <p>I will respond to talk messages where they started, trying to keep discussions in one place (you may want to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=watch">watch</a> this page for some time after adding a question). Otherwise I will clearly state where the discussion will be moved/copied to. Though, with the large number of pages I am watching, it may be wise to contact me here as well if you need a swift response. If I forget to answer, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=edit&section=new">poke me</a>.<br/><br/> I preserve the right not to answer to non-civil remarks, or subjects which are covered in this talk-header. </p> </div> <div style="margin-top:.1em; margin-bottom:.1em; border:1px solid #8DB9F6; background-color:#E9F2FE; padding:.1em"><div align="center"><div style="align: center; border: 5px solid #000000; -moz-border-radius: 15px 15px 15px 15px; background: #000000; padding:1px; width:97%; color: #dd3333; font-size: 125%; align: center; margin-bottom:10px;"><b>ON EXTERNAL LINK REMOVAL</b></div> <p>There are several discussions about my link removal here, and in my archives. If you want to contact me about my view of this policy, please read and <b>understand</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">WP:NOT</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EL">WP:EL</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPAM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPAM">WP:SPAM</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:A" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:A">WP:A</a>, and read the discussions on my talkpage or in my archives <b>first</b>. </p> <div align="center" style="background-color:#FF0000">My view in a nutshell:<br/>External links are not meant to tunnel people away from the wikipedia.</div><br/> <p>Hence, I will remove external links on pages where I think they do not add to the page (per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT#REPOSITORY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">WP:NOT#REPOSITORY</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EL">WP:EL</a>), or when they are added in a way that <i>wikipedia</i> defines as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPAM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPAM">spam</a> (understand that wikipedia defines spam as: '... wide-scale external link spamming ...', even if the link <i>is</i> appropriate; also read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPAM#External_link_spamming" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPAM">this</a>). This may mean that I remove links, while similar links are already there or which are there already for a long time. Still, the question is not whether your link should be there, the question <i>may</i> be whether those other links should be there (again, see the wording of the policies and guidelines). </p><p>Please consider the alternatives before re-adding the link: </p> <ul><li>If the link contains information, use the information to add <i>content</i> to the article, and use the link as a reference (content is not 'see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.example.org">here</a> for more information').</li> <li>Add an appropriate linkfarm (you can consider to remove other links covered there).</li> <li>Incorporate the information into one of the sister projects.</li> <li>Add the link to other mediawiki projects aimed at advertiseing (see e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.aboutus.org">this</a>)</li></ul> <p>If the linkspam of a certain link perseveres, I will not hesitate to report it to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam">wikiproject spam</a> for blacklisting (even <i>if</i> the link would be appropriate for wikipedia). It may be wise to consider the alternatives <i>before</i> things get to that point. </p> <div align="center" style="background-color:#FF0000">The answer in a nutshell<br/>Please consider if the link you want to add complies with the policies and guidelines.</div><br/> <p>If you have other questions, or still have questions on my view of the external link policy, disagree with me, or think I made a mistake in removing a link you added, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=edit&section=new">please poke me by starting a new subject on my talk-page</a>. If you absolutely want an answer, you can try to poke the people at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:EL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:EL">WT:EL</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WPSPAM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WPSPAM">WT:WPSPAM</a> on your specific case. Also, regarding link, I can be contacted on IRC, channel <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia-spam-t%7C#wikipedia-spam-t">[1]</a>. </p> </div></div> <div style="margin-top:.1em; margin-bottom:.1em; border:1px solid #8DB9F6; background-color:#E9F2FE; padding:.1em"> <div align="center"><b>Reliable sources</b></div> <p>I convert inline URL's into references and convert referencing styles to a consistent format. My preferred style is the style provided by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FOOT" class="mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:FOOT">cite.php</a> (<ref> and <references/>). When other mechanisms are mainly (but not consistently) used (e.g. <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ref" title="Template:Ref">ref</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>/<span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Note" title="Template:Note">note</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>/<span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cite">cite</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>-templates) I will assess whether referencing would benefit from the cite.php-style. Feel free to revert these edits when I am wrong. </p><p>Converting inline URLs in references may result in data being retrieved from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Rs" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Rs">unreliable sources</a>. In these cases, the link may have been removed, and replaced by a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cn" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cn">cn</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. If you feel that the page should be used as a reference (complying with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Rs" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Rs">wp:rs</a>!!), please discuss that on the talkpage of the page, or <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=edit&section=new">poke me by starting a new subject on my talk-page</a> </p><p>Note: I am working with some other developers on mediawiki to expand the possibilities of cite.php, our attempts can be followed <a class="external text" href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423">here</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7908">here</a>. If you like these features and want them enabled, please vote for these bugs. </p> </div> <div style="margin-top:.1em; margin-bottom:.1em; border:1px solid #8DB9F6; background-color:#E9F2FE; padding:.1em"> <div align="center"><b>Stub/Importance/Notability/Expand/Expert</b></div> <p>I am in general against deletion, except when the page really gives misinformation, is clear spam or copyvio. Otherwise, these pages may need to be expanded or rewritten. For very short articles there are the different <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Stub" title="Template:Stub">stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> marks, which clearly state that the article is to be expanded. For articles that do not state why they are notable, I will add either <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Importance" title="Template:Importance">importance</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> or <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Notability" title="Template:Notability">notability</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. In my view there is a distinct difference between these two templates, while articles carrying one of these templates <i>may</i> not be notable, the first template does say the <i>article</i> is probably notable enough, but the <i>contents</i> does not state that (yet). The latter provides a clear concern that the article is not notable, and should probably be <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Prod" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Prod">prod</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>ed or <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:AfD" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:AfD">AfD</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>ed. Removing importance-tags does not take away the backlog, it only hides from attention, deleting pages does not make the database smaller. If you contest the notability/importance of an article, please consider adding an <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Expert-subject" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Expert-subject">expert-subject</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag, or raise the subject on an appropriate wikiproject. Remember, there are many, many pages on the wikipedia, many need attention, so maybe we have to live with a backlog. </p><p>Having said this, I generally delete the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Expand" class="mw-disambig" title="Template:Expand">expand</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>-template on sight. The template is in most cases superfluous, expansion is intrinsic to the wikipedia (for stubs, expansion is already mentioned in <i>that</i> template). </p> </div> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="infobox" width="140"> <tbody><tr align="center"> <td><div class="wikipediauserbox" style="float:left;border:1px solid black;margin:1px;width:238px"><table role="presentation" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:238px;margin-bottom:0;margin-top:0;background:#eee;color:inherit"><tbody><tr><td style="border:0;width:45px;height:45px;background:#eee;text-align:center;font-size:14pt;font-weight:bold;color:black;padding:0 1px 0 0;line-height:1.25em;vertical-align:middle"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/User:O/Userbox/VandalProof" title="User:O/Userbox/VandalProof"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Vandalproof.png/43px-Vandalproof.png" decoding="async" width="43" height="45" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Vandalproof.png/65px-Vandalproof.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Vandalproof.png/86px-Vandalproof.png 2x" data-file-width="395" data-file-height="416"/></a></span></td><td style="border:0;text-align:center;font-size:8pt;padding:0 4px 0 4px;height:45px;line-height:1.25em;color:black;vertical-align:middle"><b><span style="color: #f00;">Warning to Vandals:</span> This user is armed with <a href="/wiki/User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof" title="User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof">VandalProof</a>.</b></td></tr></tbody></table></div> <div style="float: left; border:solid black 1px;"> <table cellspacing="0" style="width: 238px; background: #EEEEEE;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 48px; height: 45px; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; color: black;"><b><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Introscreen.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Introscreen.jpg/90px-Introscreen.jpg" decoding="async" width="90" height="23" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Introscreen.jpg/135px-Introscreen.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Introscreen.jpg/180px-Introscreen.jpg 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="90"/></a></span></b> </td> <td style="font-size: 8pt; padding: 4pt; line-height: 1.25em; color: black;"><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="color:red">Warning to Spammers:</span> This user is armed with <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spamda" class="extiw" title="m:Spamda">Spamda</a></b></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <div style="float: left; border:solid #D2B48C 1px; margin: 1px;"> <table cellspacing="0" style="width: 238px; background: #FFEFD5;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 45px; height: 45px; background: #D2B48C; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; color: black;"><b><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Choco_chip_cookie.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Choco_chip_cookie.jpg/40px-Choco_chip_cookie.jpg" decoding="async" width="40" height="28" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Choco_chip_cookie.jpg/60px-Choco_chip_cookie.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Choco_chip_cookie.jpg/80px-Choco_chip_cookie.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1185" data-file-height="825"/></a></span></b> </td> <td style="font-size: 8pt; padding: 4pt; line-height: 1.25em; color: black;">This user knows where IRC hides the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="irc://chat.freenode.net:8001/wikipedia-en-spam">cookies</a>, and knows how to feed them to <b><a href="/wiki/User:AntiSpamBot" title="User:AntiSpamBot">AntiSpamBot</a></b>. </td></tr></tbody></table></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="margin-top:.1em; margin-bottom:.1em; border:1px solid #8DB9F6; background-color:#E9F2FE; padding:.1em"> <table class="infobox" width="140"> <tbody><tr align="center"> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Vista-file-manager.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Archive"><img alt="Archive" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Vista-file-manager.png/50px-Vista-file-manager.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Vista-file-manager.png/75px-Vista-file-manager.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Vista-file-manager.png/100px-Vista-file-manager.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <p><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_archive_a_talk_page" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page">Archives</a></b> </p> <hr/> <p>This talk page is <b>automatically archived</b> by <a href="/wiki/User:MiszaBot_III" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MiszaBot III">MiszaBot III</a>. Timestamped threads older than <b>7</b> days are automatically archived to the current archive </p> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <td>Talk started 20/3/2006 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_1" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 1"> 1 - 7/9/2006</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_2" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 2"> 2 - 29/11/2006</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_3" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 3"> 3 - 05/02/2007</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_4" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 4"> 4 - 05/03/2007</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_5" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 5"> 5 - 15/03/2007</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_6" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 6"> 6 - 29/07/2007</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_8" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 8"> 7 - 06/11/2007</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_8" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 8"> 8 - 31/03/2008</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_9" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 9"> 9 - 22/09/2008</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_10" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 10">10 - 03/02/2009</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_11" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 11">11 - 17/05/2009</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_12" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 12">12 - 13/11/2009</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_13" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 13">13 - 27/5/2010</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_14" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 14">14 - 13/12/2010</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_15" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 15">15 - 5/7/2011</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_16" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 16">16 - </a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_17" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 17">17 - </a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_18" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 18">18 - </a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_19" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 19">19 - </a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_20" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 20">20 - </a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_21" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 21">21 - </a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_22" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 22">22 - current</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 23 (page does not exist)">23 -</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 24 (page does not exist)">24 -</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra/Archive_25&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Beetstra/Archive 25 (page does not exist)">25 -</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> </div></td></tr> </tbody></table> <table role="presentation" class="userboxes" style="margin: auto; margin-bottom: 0.5em; width: 248px; border: #99B3FF solid 1px; background-color: #FFFFFF; background-color: var(--background-color-base, #FFFFFF);; color: #000000; color: var(--color-emphasized, #000000); float: right;"> <tbody><tr> <td><div style="text-align: center; font-size: 120%; font-weight: bold;"></div> <div class="wikipediauserbox" style="float:left;border:1px solid black;margin:1px;width:238px"><table role="presentation" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:238px;margin-bottom:0;margin-top:0;background:White;color:inherit"><tbody><tr><td style="border:0;width:45px;height:45px;background:White;text-align:center;font-size:12pt;font-weight:bold;color:White;padding:0 1px 0 0;line-height:1.25em;vertical-align:middle"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-en.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Wikipedia-logo-v2-en.svg/35px-Wikipedia-logo-v2-en.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Wikipedia-logo-v2-en.svg/53px-Wikipedia-logo-v2-en.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Wikipedia-logo-v2-en.svg/70px-Wikipedia-logo-v2-en.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="135" data-file-height="155"/></a></span></td><td style="border:0;text-align:left;font-size:8pt;padding:0 4px 0 4px;height:45px;line-height:1.25em;color:black;vertical-align:middle">This user is one of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits" title="Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits"><b>400</b> most active English Wikipedians</a> of all time.</td></tr></tbody></table></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Chembot_help?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chembot_help?-20241009062300"><span id="Chembot_help.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chembot_help?-20241009062300"></span>Chembot help?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chembot_help?-20241009062300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Chembot help?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-120.19.149.247-20241009062300-Chembot_help?"></span>hey mate, the page for sulfuric acid has a cross symbol for the chembox validation, but i dont understand how to fix it.. what must be done? I also noticed the same for the pages of methanol and acetic acid.. i believe the bot marks the page with an x if any extra text is added to the chembox.. </p><p>Thanks <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/120.19.149.247" title="Special:Contributions/120.19.149.247">120.19.149.247</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:120.19.149.247&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:120.19.149.247 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra#c-120.19.149.247-20241009062300-Chembot_help?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-120.19.149.247-20241009062300-Chembot_help?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-120.19.149.247-20241009062300-Chembot_help?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beetstra-20241009143400-120.19.149.247-20241009062300"></span>We should consider to disable all those marks. It was turned out cumbersome to keep track of, and then there was also the integration with WikiData. I think it is better to remove the parameters. <a href="/wiki/User:Beetstra" title="User:Beetstra">Dirk Beetstra</a> <sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Beetstra" title="Special:Contributions/Beetstra"><span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra#c-Beetstra-20241009143400-120.19.149.247-20241009062300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beetstra-20241009143400-120.19.149.247-20241009062300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beetstra-20241009143400-120.19.149.247-20241009062300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Diamondina"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Diamondina"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20241015011800"><span id=".22Diamondina.22_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Diamondina"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20241015011800"></span>"<a href="/w/index.php?title=Diamondina&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Diamondina (page does not exist)">Diamondina</a>" listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">Redirects for discussion</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Diamondina"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20241015011800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: "Diamondina" listed at Redirects for discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mdewman6-20241015011800-"Diamondina"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> The redirect <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diamondina&redirect=no">Diamondina</a></span> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">redirects for discussion</a> to determine whether its use and function meets the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect" title="Wikipedia:Redirect">redirect guidelines</a>. 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