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It allows adding a reason in the summary.">undo</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/wiki/User:Fuhghettaboutit" class="mw-userlink" title="User:Fuhghettaboutit" data-mw-revid="1012347993"><bdi>Fuhghettaboutit</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fuhghettaboutit" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="User talk:Fuhghettaboutit">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fuhghettaboutit" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Special:Contributions/Fuhghettaboutit">contribs</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>85,115</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses">Been meaning to incorporate this for a while. I think we should strive to explain this to new users--how notability and verifiability work together, and how writing an article the &quot;right way&quot; does both seamlessly; gets an article on the right path; that it&#039;s all integratted, we cite sources to verify, and they prove notability at the same time; it&#039;s not some separate and artificial notability proving process but a flowing, dual, integrated thing when done right</span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Common_sourcing_mistakes_(notability)&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=1012347993&amp;diffonly=1" title="Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability)" id="differences-nextlink">Next edit →</a></div></td> </tr><tr><td colspan="4"><div class="mw-diff-inline-header">Line 1:</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">{{notability essay}}</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">{{nutshell|There are three common mistakes you should avoid when sourcing an article or proposed article to demonstrate that the topic is notable: i) adding citations but to ''unreliable'' sources; ii) adding citations to ''connected'' (non-independent) sources; and iii) adding citations to sources that ''merely mention'' the topic.|shortcut=WP:NERROR|shortcut2=WP:CSMN}}</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-changed">Wikipedia is an [[WP:ENC|encyclopedia]], a specific type of reference work properly containing articles on topics of knowledge. Wikipedia employs the concept of [[WP:N|notability]] to avoid [[WP:IINFO|indiscriminate inclusion]] of topics by attempting to ensure that the subjects of articles are "worthy of notice" – by only including articles on topics that the world has taken ''note'' of by substantively treating them in reliable sources unconnected with the topic<ins title="Content added">. The general notability standard thus presumes that topics are notable if they have "received '''significant coverage''' in '''[[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]]''' that are '''[[WP:Independent sources|independent]] of the subject'''"</ins>. </div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">&#160;</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-added"><ins title="Content added">Wikipedia's notability standards works hand in glove with its policy on [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiability of information]]. In short the "right way" to write an article is to gather the right types of sources first&lt;ref&gt;[[WP:PRIMARY|Primary sources]] may only be used to support: "straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge." In addition to a number of other prohibitions on their use set out at the linked policy page, additional restrictions are provided on the use of primary sources in articles that are biographies of living persons. See [[WP:BLPPRIMARY]] and [[WP:BLPPRIVACY]].&lt;/ref&gt; (as explained below), and, if and only if they they exist, write only what they verify, [[WP:REFB|citing those sources as you go for the information]] (''without'' copying the words used&lt;ref&gt;''Short'' quotations of copyrighted material [[|Wikipedia:Non-free content #Acceptable use of text|are allowed under fair use]], but any such quotations ''must'' be marked as such using quote marks (or by less common methods, such as block-indenting), and must by policy be immediately followed by an [[WP:IC|inline citation]] to the source of the quotation).&lt;/ref&gt;) At the same time such sources verify the information content, they act to demonstrate the notability of the topic by their substantive treatment of it. If notability cannot be established for an article it is likely to be [[Wikipedia:Merging|merged]], [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirected]] or [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deleted]]. </ins></div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-deleted"><del title="Content deleted">The general notability standard thus presumes that topics are notable if they have "received '''significant coverage''' in '''[[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]]''' that are '''[[WP:Independent sources|independent]] of the subject'''". </del></div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">&#160;</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-changed">In order to establish notability, we ask that users [[WP:REFB|cite]], using [[WP:IC|inline citations]], to: published, [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable]], [[WP:SECONDARY|secondary]] sources that are entirely [[Wikipedia:Independent sources|independent]] of the topic and provide significant coverage of it beyond its mere trivial mention. <del title="Content deleted">If notability cannot be established for an article it is likely to be [[Wikipedia:Merging|merged]], [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirected]] or [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deleted]].</del></div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">&#160;</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">There are a number of common mistakes seen in addressing this issue:</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-header">Line 13:</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">&#160;</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">If insufficient reliable, secondary and independent sources exist treating a topic in substantive detail, then Wikipedia should not have an article on the topic. Remember that [[Wikipedia:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability|no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability]].</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-added mw-diff-empty-line"><ins title="Content added">&#160;</ins></div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-added"><ins title="Content added">== Footnotes ==</ins></div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-added"><ins title="Content added">{{Reflist}}</ins></div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">&#160;</div> <div class="mw-diff-inline-context">{{Wikipedia essays|notability}}</div> </td></tr></table><!--esi <esi:include src="/esitest-fa8a495983347898/content" /> --><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=mobile&amp;type=1x1&amp;usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Common_sourcing_mistakes_(notability)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Common_sourcing_mistakes_(notability)</a>"</div></div> </div> <div class="post-content" id="page-secondary-actions"> </div> </main> <footer class="mw-footer minerva-footer" role="contentinfo"> <div class="post-content footer-content"> <div id="p-lang"> <h4>Languages</h4> <section> <ul id="p-variants" class="minerva-languages"></ul> <ul class="minerva-languages"></ul> <p>This page is not available in other languages.</p> </section> </div> <div class="minerva-footer-logo"><img src="/static/images/mobile/copyright/wikipedia-wordmark-en.svg" alt="Wikipedia" width="120" height="18" style="width: 7.5em; height: 1.125em;"/> </div> <ul id="footer-info" class="footer-info hlist hlist-separated"> </ul> <ul id="footer-places" class="footer-places hlist hlist-separated"> <li id="footer-places-privacy"><a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Privacy_policy">Privacy policy</a></li> <li id="footer-places-about"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:About">About Wikipedia</a></li> <li id="footer-places-disclaimers"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer">Disclaimers</a></li> <li id="footer-places-contact"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us">Contact Wikipedia</a></li> <li id="footer-places-wm-codeofconduct"><a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Universal_Code_of_Conduct">Code of Conduct</a></li> <li id="footer-places-developers"><a href="https://developer.wikimedia.org">Developers</a></li> <li id="footer-places-statslink"><a href="https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org">Statistics</a></li> <li id="footer-places-cookiestatement"><a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Cookie_statement">Cookie statement</a></li> <li id="footer-places-terms-use"><a href="https://foundation.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Terms_of_Use">Terms of Use</a></li> <li id="footer-places-desktop-toggle"><a id="mw-mf-display-toggle" href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Common_sourcing_mistakes_(notability)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=1012347993&amp;mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop" data-event-name="switch_to_desktop">Desktop</a></li> </ul> </div> </footer> </div> </div> <div class="mw-notification-area" data-mw="interface"></div> <!-- v:8.3.1 --> <script>(RLQ=window.RLQ||[]).push(function(){mw.config.set({"wgHostname":"mw-web.codfw.main-55db797859-7cc7k","wgBackendResponseTime":339});});</script> <script>(window.NORLQ=window.NORLQ||[]).push(function(){var ns,i,p,img;ns=document.getElementsByTagName('noscript');for(i=0;i<ns.length;i++){p=ns[i].nextSibling;if(p&&p.className&&p.className.indexOf('lazy-image-placeholder')>-1){img=document.createElement('img');img.setAttribute('src',p.getAttribute('data-src'));img.setAttribute('width',p.getAttribute('data-width'));img.setAttribute('height',p.getAttribute('data-height'));img.setAttribute('alt',p.getAttribute('data-alt'));p.parentNode.replaceChild(img,p);}}});</script> </body> </html>

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