【ZZZ】【キャラ】バーニスとトリガーってどっちの方がいい？

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トリガーは表キャラのサポートがメインでしょ</dd> <dt>61: <span style="color: green;font-weight: bold">名無しさん</span> <span style="color: gray"> 2025/04/05(土) 12:41:43.93 </span> </dt> <dd class="t_b" style="font-weight: bold;color: #008080;padding-left: 10px;margin-bottom: 45px">ぶっちゃけ火力だけ見てもバーニスよりトリガーの方が遥かに上じゃね？<br> 餅前提だけど</dd> <div class="adspace articlead">  <div class="fourm_video"></div> </div> <dt>62: <span style="color: green;font-weight: bold">名無しさん</span> <span style="color: gray"> 2025/04/05(土) 12:44:33.84 </span> </dt> <dd class="t_b" style="font-weight: bold;color: #db7093;padding-left: 10px;margin-bottom: 45px">トリガーは撃破なので、ブレイクを起こす　兼デバフ役　兼サブ火力<br> バーニスは異常なので、とにかく熱傷の状態異常を起こしたい（１１号と組ませるとき）、<br> とにかく混沌を起こして異常アタッカー役のサポートをしたい（雅や柳と組ませるとき） <p>という役割の使い分けかと思う</p> </dd> <dt>63: <span style="color: green;font-weight: bold">名無しさん</span> <span style="color: gray"> 2025/04/05(土) 12:46:21.77 </span> </dt> <dd class="t_b" style="font-weight: bold;color: #a52a2a;padding-left: 10px;margin-bottom: 45px">異常と撃破を比べてる時点で同じ土俵じゃないけどな<br> バニは異常状態を起こしやすいのと火力に貢献<br> トリガーはブレイク値と表アタッカー支援<br> 全然用途が違うから比べるのはちゃうで</dd> <dt style="margin-left: 10px">66: <span style="color: green;font-weight: bold">名無しさん</span> <span style="color: gray"> 2025/04/05(土) 13:08:47.67 </span> </dt> <dd class="t_b t_i" style="font-weight: bold;padding-left: 10px;margin-left: 10px;margin-bottom: 45px"> <span class="anchor" style="color: mediumblue">>>63</span><br> 今その破綻してるロール区分持ち出して何になるのか</dd> <dt>67: <span style="color: green;font-weight: bold">名無しさん</span> <span style="color: gray"> 2025/04/05(土) 13:10:15.23 </span> </dt> <dd class="t_b" style="font-weight: bold;color: #db7093;padding-left: 10px;margin-bottom: 45px">初心者と書いてるのでね<br> ロール区分が１ミリの意味もなくなってるわけじゃないし</dd> <div class="adspace articlead">  <ins class="adsbygoogle" style="display:block" data-ad-client="ca-pub-9626709450639290" data-ad-slot="3479097661" data-ad-format="auto"></ins> <script> (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); </script> </div> <dt>68: <span style="color: green;font-weight: bold">名無しさん</span> <span style="color: gray"> 2025/04/05(土) 13:13:05.30 </span> </dt> <dd class="t_b" style="font-weight: bold;color: #4b6b73;padding-left: 10px;margin-bottom: 45px">結局やってること全部DPS確保だから異常と撃破だから関係ないって訳でもないな<br> というか撃破とか言ってるけどやってること支援だしな<br> 雅とか柳と組んでも普通に強いし</dd> <dt>69: <span style="color: green;font-weight: bold">名無しさん</span> <span style="color: gray"> 2025/04/05(土) 13:15:53.35 </span> </dt> <dd class="t_b" style="font-weight: bold;color: #008080;padding-left: 10px;margin-bottom: 45px">昔ならともかく今は11号の会心28％の為にほぼ混沌起こせないバーニスをわざわざ入れるぐらいなら他に選択肢いくらでもある<br> 雅の混沌要因も柳が最適だし柳ならそれこそバーニスよりトリガーと組んだ方が強いし汎用性も高い</dd> <dt>74: <span style="color: green;font-weight: bold">名無しさん</span> <span style="color: gray"> 2025/04/05(土) 13:30:22.53 </span> </dt> <dd class="t_b" style="font-weight: bold;color: #3366ff;padding-left: 10px;margin-bottom: 45px">例えばアストラ柳ptに入れるなら<br> バーニスよりトリガーが汎用性とか色々使い回せて便利て感じすか<br> まあ属性で使い分けられる人が羨ましいですけど</dd> </dl> <p 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commentmetadata"> <a href="https://zenless.gamerstand.net/10728#comment-22959">2025年4月5日 9:31 PM</a> </div> <p>トリガーも余裕で異常と組めるし逆にバーニスが強攻と組むメリットほぼないでしょ<br /> というかトリガーがバーニスに負けるシチュエーションがあまり思い浮かばないな</p> <div class="reply"><a rel='nofollow' class='comment-reply-link' href='https://zenless.gamerstand.net/10728?replytocom=22959#respond' data-commentid="22959" data-postid="10728" data-belowelement="div-comment-22959" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="匿名に返信" aria-label='匿名に返信'>返信</a></div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment even depth-3" id="comment-23005"> <div id="div-comment-23005" class="comment-body"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <cite class="fn">匿名</cite> <span class="says">より:</span> </div> <div class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> <a href="https://zenless.gamerstand.net/10728#comment-23005">2025年4月6日 1:54 PM</a> </div> <p>バーニスの会心ビルド、ライトのアタッカービルド、ルーシーで組ませて現危局でも60000以上出せますが何か？<br /> それだけじゃなく異常混沌でも幅広いPTで運用可能<br /> トリガーも汎用性高いけどバーニスも同じくらい汎用性あるって話<br /> どっちが上ってことではない</p> <div class="reply"><a rel='nofollow' class='comment-reply-link' href='https://zenless.gamerstand.net/10728?replytocom=23005#respond' data-commentid="23005" data-postid="10728" data-belowelement="div-comment-23005" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="匿名に返信" aria-label='匿名に返信'>返信</a></div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-22957"> <div id="div-comment-22957" class="comment-body"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <cite class="fn">匿名</cite> <span class="says">より:</span> </div> <div class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> <a href="https://zenless.gamerstand.net/10728#comment-22957">2025年4月5日 8:45 PM</a> </div> <p>持ってく強攻によってかえたらええがな</p> <div class="reply"><a rel='nofollow' class='comment-reply-link' href='https://zenless.gamerstand.net/10728?replytocom=22957#respond' data-commentid="22957" data-postid="10728" data-belowelement="div-comment-22957" data-respondelement="respond" 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</div> <div class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> <a href="https://zenless.gamerstand.net/10728#comment-22961">2025年4月5日 10:26 PM</a> </div> <p>バーニスはビルド次第で表メインアタッカーでも使える性能だぞ<br /> トリガーはどう頑張ってもサブアタッカーくらいの火力しかない</p> <div class="reply"><a rel='nofollow' class='comment-reply-link' href='https://zenless.gamerstand.net/10728?replytocom=22961#respond' data-commentid="22961" data-postid="10728" data-belowelement="div-comment-22961" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="匿名に返信" aria-label='匿名に返信'>返信</a></div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment even depth-3" id="comment-22964"> <div id="div-comment-22964" class="comment-body"> <div class="comment-author vcard"> <cite class="fn">匿名</cite> <span class="says">より:</span> </div> <div class="comment-meta commentmetadata"> <a href="https://zenless.gamerstand.net/10728#comment-22964">2025年4月5日 10:53 PM</a> </div> <p>バーニスのアタッカー運用なんてもう今や腐ってきてるじゃん</p> <div class="reply"><a rel='nofollow' class='comment-reply-link' 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