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vector-toc-level-1"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#" class="vector-toc-link"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> Beginning </div></a></li> <li id="toc-_Release_and_features_FAQ" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#_Release_and_features_FAQ"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1</span> <span> Release and features FAQ</span> </div></a> <button aria-controls="toc-_Release_and_features_FAQ-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle Release and features FAQ subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-_Release_and_features_FAQ-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Is_Structured_Discussions_replacing_talk_pages?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Is_Structured_Discussions_replacing_talk_pages?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.1</span> <span>Is Structured Discussions replacing talk pages?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Is_Structured_Discussions_replacing_talk_pages?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-What_wikis_are_using_Structured_Discussions?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#What_wikis_are_using_Structured_Discussions?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.2</span> <span>What wikis are using Structured Discussions?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-What_wikis_are_using_Structured_Discussions?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Can_I_opt_out?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Can_I_opt_out?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.3</span> <span>Can I opt out?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Can_I_opt_out?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-What_happens_to_current_talk_page_discussions?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#What_happens_to_current_talk_page_discussions?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.4</span> <span>What happens to current talk page discussions?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-What_happens_to_current_talk_page_discussions?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-What_about_IP/anonymous_editors?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#What_about_IP/anonymous_editors?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.5</span> <span>What about IP/anonymous editors?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-What_about_IP/anonymous_editors?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Why_didn't_we_use_a_pre-built_system,_like_PHPBB_or_Discourse?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Why_didn't_we_use_a_pre-built_system,_like_PHPBB_or_Discourse?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.6</span> <span>Why didn't we use a pre-built system, like PHPBB or Discourse?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Why_didn't_we_use_a_pre-built_system,_like_PHPBB_or_Discourse?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Why_not_use_LiquidThreads?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Why_not_use_LiquidThreads?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.7</span> <span>Why not use LiquidThreads?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Why_not_use_LiquidThreads?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-How_does_Structured_Discussions_handle_spam_and_vandalism?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#How_does_Structured_Discussions_handle_spam_and_vandalism?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.8</span> <span>How does Structured Discussions handle spam and vandalism?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-How_does_Structured_Discussions_handle_spam_and_vandalism?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_wikitext_or_VisualEditor?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Does_Structured_Discussions_support_wikitext_or_VisualEditor?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.9</span> <span>Does Structured Discussions support wikitext or VisualEditor?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_wikitext_or_VisualEditor?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_all_the_templates_and_other_markup_we_need_in_discussions?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Does_Structured_Discussions_support_all_the_templates_and_other_markup_we_need_in_discussions?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.10</span> <span>Does Structured Discussions support all the templates and other markup we need in discussions?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_all_the_templates_and_other_markup_we_need_in_discussions?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-What_happens_to_my_custom_signature?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#What_happens_to_my_custom_signature?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.11</span> <span>What happens to my custom signature?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-What_happens_to_my_custom_signature?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Can_I_edit_other_people's_posts?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Can_I_edit_other_people's_posts?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.12</span> <span>Can I edit other people's posts?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Can_I_edit_other_people's_posts?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Instead_or_in_parallel_of_Structured_Discussions,_will_VisualEditor_be_enabled_on_talk_pages?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Instead_or_in_parallel_of_Structured_Discussions,_will_VisualEditor_be_enabled_on_talk_pages?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.13</span> <span>Instead or in parallel of Structured Discussions, will VisualEditor be enabled on talk pages?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Instead_or_in_parallel_of_Structured_Discussions,_will_VisualEditor_be_enabled_on_talk_pages?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-I_can't_use_any_page_on_Structured_Discussions._Why?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#I_can't_use_any_page_on_Structured_Discussions._Why?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.14</span> <span>I can't use any page on Structured Discussions. Why?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-I_can't_use_any_page_on_Structured_Discussions._Why?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Why_do_you_use_Topics_and_replies_URLs_that_are_not_understandable_by_a_human_(like_Topic:RdZ3SJY7W5Wtr)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Why_do_you_use_Topics_and_replies_URLs_that_are_not_understandable_by_a_human_(like_Topic:RdZ3SJY7W5Wtr)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.15</span> <span>Why do you use Topics and replies URLs that are not understandable by a human (like Topic:RdZ3SJY7W5Wtr)</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Why_do_you_use_Topics_and_replies_URLs_that_are_not_understandable_by_a_human_(like_Topic:RdZ3SJY7W5Wtr)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Is_there_a_way_to_all_find_pages_that_use_Structured_Discussions_?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Is_there_a_way_to_all_find_pages_that_use_Structured_Discussions_?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.16</span> <span>Is there a way to all find pages that use Structured Discussions ?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Is_there_a_way_to_all_find_pages_that_use_Structured_Discussions_?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-I_don't_want_Structured_Discussions_on_my_talk_page._Is_it_possible_to_change_it_back_to_the_old_wikitext_style?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#I_don't_want_Structured_Discussions_on_my_talk_page._Is_it_possible_to_change_it_back_to_the_old_wikitext_style?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">1.17</span> <span>I don't want Structured Discussions on my talk page. Is it possible to change it back to the old wikitext style?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-I_don't_want_Structured_Discussions_on_my_talk_page._Is_it_possible_to_change_it_back_to_the_old_wikitext_style?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Design_FAQ" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Design_FAQ"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2</span> <span>Design FAQ</span> </div></a> <button aria-controls="toc-Design_FAQ-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle Design FAQ subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Design_FAQ-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Why_is_there_so_much_whitespace/padding?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Why_is_there_so_much_whitespace/padding?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.1</span> <span>Why is there so much whitespace/padding?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Why_is_there_so_much_whitespace/padding?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Why_is_there_limited_indenting/threading_of_comments?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Why_is_there_limited_indenting/threading_of_comments?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.2</span> <span>Why is there limited indenting/threading of comments?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Why_is_there_limited_indenting/threading_of_comments?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Why_are_we_using_big_colored_buttons?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Why_are_we_using_big_colored_buttons?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.3</span> <span>Why are we using big colored buttons?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Why_are_we_using_big_colored_buttons?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Are_you_working_on_a_design_without_JavaScript,_for_users_with_accessibility_or_browser_concerns?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Are_you_working_on_a_design_without_JavaScript,_for_users_with_accessibility_or_browser_concerns?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.4</span> <span>Are you working on a design without JavaScript, for users with accessibility or browser concerns?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Are_you_working_on_a_design_without_JavaScript,_for_users_with_accessibility_or_browser_concerns?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Why_is_there_gray_text?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Why_is_there_gray_text?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.5</span> <span>Why is there gray text?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Why_is_there_gray_text?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Why_does_it_look_like_Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange,_etc.?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Why_does_it_look_like_Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange,_etc.?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.6</span> <span>Why does it look like Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange, etc.?</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-Why_does_it_look_like_Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange,_etc.?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-Why_are_we_using_this_Topic_and_Post_order?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Why_are_we_using_this_Topic_and_Post_order?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span 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style="display:none"><a class="mw-selflink selflink"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Structured_Discussions/Sandbox?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Structured Discussions/Sandbox">Sandbox</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/Sandbox?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Structured Discussions/Sandbox"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Structured_Discussions/Wikis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Structured Discussions/Wikis">Wikis</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/Wikis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Structured Discussions/Wikis"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help_talk:Structured_Discussions?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help talk:Structured Discussions">Feedback</a></li> <li><b><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Structured_Discussions/Deprecation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Structured Discussions/Deprecation">Deprecation</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/Deprecation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Structured Discussions/Deprecation"> </a></span></b></li> </ul></td> </tr> <tr class="tpl-sidebar-heading"> <th class="" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; padding-top: 1em;;"><b>Documentation</b></th> </tr> <tr class="tpl-sidebar-content"> <td class="" style=";"> <ul> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Glossary">Glossary</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Glossary"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Quick_tour?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Quick tour">Quick tour</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Quick_tour?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Quick tour"> </a></span> with most important points including posting and editing.</li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions">Documentation</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions"> </a></span> (<a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/One_page?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/One page">on one page</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/One_page?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/One page"> </a></span>) <ul> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Activation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Activation">Activation and Deactivation</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Activation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Activation"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Topics?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Topics">Topics</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Topics?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Topics"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Notifications_and_watchlist?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Notifications and watchlist">Notifications and watchlist</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Notifications_and_watchlist?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Notifications and watchlist"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Permalinks?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Permalinks">Permalinks</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Permalinks?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Permalinks"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Administration?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Administration">Administration</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Administration?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Administration"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Preloading?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Preloading">Preloading</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Preloading?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Preloading"> </a></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Keyboard_shortcuts?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Keyboard shortcuts">Keyboard shortcuts</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Keyboard_shortcuts?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Keyboard shortcuts"> </a></span></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Known_problems?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Known problems">Known problems (and how to solve them)</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Known_problems?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Known problems"> </a></span></li> </ul></td> </tr> <tr class="tpl-sidebar-heading"> <th class="" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; padding-top: 1em;;"><b>Gadgets</b></th> </tr> <tr class="tpl-sidebar-content"> <td class="" style=";"> <ul> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/FlowDeluxe?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/FlowDeluxe">FlowDeluxe</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/FlowDeluxe?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/FlowDeluxe"> </a></span></li> </ul></td> </tr> <tr class="tpl-sidebar-heading"> <th class="" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; padding-top: 1em;;"><b>Technical</b></th> </tr> <tr class="tpl-sidebar-content"> <td class="" style=";"> <ul> <li><a 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title="Special:MyLanguage/Extension:StructuredDiscussions">Extension:StructuredDiscussions</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Extension:StructuredDiscussions?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Extension:StructuredDiscussions"> </a></span></li> </ul></td> </tr> <tr class="tpl-sidebar-heading"> <th class="" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; padding-top: 1em;;"><b>Misc</b></th> </tr> <tr class="tpl-sidebar-abovebelow"> <td class="" style=""><small class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Template:Structured_Discussions_Navigation&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">Translate this template</a></small></td> </tr> <tr class="tpl-sidebar-navbar"> <td style=""><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r4692751">.mw-parser-output .navbar{display:inline;font-size:88%;font-weight:normal}.mw-parser-output .navbar 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</div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Is_Structured_Discussions_replacing_talk_pages?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_Structured_Discussions_replacing_talk_pages?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Is_Structured_Discussions_replacing_talk_pages.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_Structured_Discussions_replacing_talk_pages?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Is Structured Discussions replacing talk pages?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_Structured_Discussions_replacing_talk_pages?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=2&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Is Structured Discussions replacing talk pages?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The Structured Discussions discussion features have been used successfully on user talk pages, help spaces and village pump-style group discussion pages.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="What_wikis_are_using_Structured_Discussions?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_wikis_are_using_Structured_Discussions?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="What_wikis_are_using_Structured_Discussions.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_wikis_are_using_Structured_Discussions?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>What wikis are using Structured Discussions?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_wikis_are_using_Structured_Discussions?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=3&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: What wikis are using Structured Discussions?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>See <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Structured_Discussions/Wikis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Structured Discussions/Wikis">Structured Discussions/Wikis</a>).</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Can_I_opt_out?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_I_opt_out?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Can_I_opt_out.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_I_opt_out?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Can I opt out?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_I_opt_out?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=4&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Can I opt out?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>In terms of viewing, you cannot opt out of <i>seeing</i> Structured Discussions. If Structured Discussions is enabled on a page, there's no way to avoid using Structured Discussions if you want to contribute to that page.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="What_happens_to_current_talk_page_discussions?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_happens_to_current_talk_page_discussions?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="What_happens_to_current_talk_page_discussions.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_happens_to_current_talk_page_discussions?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>What happens to current talk page discussions?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_happens_to_current_talk_page_discussions?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=5&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: What happens to current talk page discussions?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>When Structured Discussions is enabled on an active wiki talk page, the existing discussions are moved to an archive page. There's a link in the Structured Discussions board's side rail to the archive page. Old discussions aren't thrown away; we know how important discussions are to understanding the collaborative history of a wiki page or project.</p> <p>We aren't able to "convert" wiki talk pages into the Structured Discussions format, because there isn't a clear one-to-one correspondence between a wiki talk page edit to a Structured Discussions post. It's more respectful to the discussions if we preserve the original format, on an archive page.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="What_about_IP/anonymous_editors?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_about_IP/anonymous_editors?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="What_about_IP.2Fanonymous_editors.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_about_IP/anonymous_editors?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>What about IP/anonymous editors?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_about_IP/anonymous_editors?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=6&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: What about IP/anonymous editors?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Anonymous users are able to use Structured Discussions-enabled talk pages as any other user. However, subscriptions to individual topics, and notifications based on those subscriptions, are available to logged-in users.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Why_didn't_we_use_a_pre-built_system,_like_PHPBB_or_Discourse?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_didn't_we_use_a_pre-built_system,_like_PHPBB_or_Discourse?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Why_didn.27t_we_use_a_pre-built_system.2C_like_PHPBB_or_Discourse.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_didn't_we_use_a_pre-built_system,_like_PHPBB_or_Discourse?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Why didn't we use a pre-built system, like PHPBB or Discourse?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_didn't_we_use_a_pre-built_system,_like_PHPBB_or_Discourse?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=7&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why didn't we use a pre-built system, like PHPBB or Discourse?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>On a wiki, the discussion system needs to connect to the rest of the wiki systems, including history pages, contributions pages and diffs. It would be harder to integrate a pre-built system than it is to build our own.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Why_not_use_LiquidThreads?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_not_use_LiquidThreads?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Why_not_use_LiquidThreads.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_not_use_LiquidThreads?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Why not use LiquidThreads?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_not_use_LiquidThreads?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=8&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why not use LiquidThreads?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/LiquidThreads?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/LiquidThreads">LiquidThreads</a> (LQT) was an early attempt at creating a structured discussion system. It had both strengths and weaknesses. After exploration and discussion, LQT was abandoned as a solution going forward for several reasons: poor performance, due to the way individual comments or posts are stored, parsed, rendered, cached, and assembled; no support for globally unique identifiers; and lack of flexibility with regards to workflows and collaboration techniques beyond simple discussion.</p> <p>We have a conversion script that turns LQT discussions into Structured Discussions topics, which was used to convert all the LQT threads on MediaWiki.org into Structured Discussions. Details at <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Flow/Converting_LiquidThreads?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Flow/Converting LiquidThreads">Flow/Converting LiquidThreads</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="How_does_Structured_Discussions_handle_spam_and_vandalism?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_does_Structured_Discussions_handle_spam_and_vandalism?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="How_does_Structured_Discussions_handle_spam_and_vandalism.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_does_Structured_Discussions_handle_spam_and_vandalism?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>How does Structured Discussions handle spam and vandalism?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_does_Structured_Discussions_handle_spam_and_vandalism?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=9&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: How does Structured Discussions handle spam and vandalism?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r6969225">.mw-parser-output .hatnote{font-style:italic;padding-bottom:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.4em;border-bottom:1px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1)}.mw-parser-output .hatnote.no-border{border-bottom:none}</style> <div role="note" class="hatnote relarticle mainarticle"> Main page: <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Administration?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Administration">Help:Structured Discussions/Administration</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Administration?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:Structured Discussions/Administration"> </a></span> </div> <p>Each topic and individual post comes with a set of moderation features. These are:</p> <ol> <li>Hide (equivalent to reversion/rollback);</li> <li>Delete (equivalent to revision-deletion), and</li> <li>Suppress (equivalent to oversight or suppression)</li> </ol> <p>Because Structured Discussions topics and comments exist as discrete elements, a specific post can be removed with a single set of actions: there's no need to go through the page history removing intervening comments, for example. In terms of spam, Structured Discussions is integrated with the AbuseFilter and the global and local Spam Blacklist. See <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Extension:Flow/Moderation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Extension:Flow/Moderation">mw:Extension:Flow/Moderation</a> for technical details.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Does_Structured_Discussions_support_wikitext_or_VisualEditor?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_wikitext_or_VisualEditor?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Does_Structured_Discussions_support_wikitext_or_VisualEditor.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_wikitext_or_VisualEditor?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Does Structured Discussions support wikitext or VisualEditor?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_wikitext_or_VisualEditor?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=10&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Does Structured Discussions support wikitext or VisualEditor?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Both. Structured Discussions is linked into <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Parsoid?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Parsoid">Parsoid</a>, which is the software that <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor">VisualEditor</a> uses to read and write wikimarkup. Hooked into that is a wikitext editor and VisualEditor. Users are able to pick which they want to use, and the last edit-mode that is used to edit the content within, will be saved as a hidden preference. VisualEditor is used as the "preview" function.</p> <p>Because Structured Discussions stores content in HTML rather than Wikitext, Parsoid may rewrite wikitext when previewing or saving and re-editing. Those rewrites will usually be non-damaging.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Does_Structured_Discussions_support_all_the_templates_and_other_markup_we_need_in_discussions?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_all_the_templates_and_other_markup_we_need_i-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Does_Structured_Discussions_support_all_the_templates_and_other_markup_we_need_in_discussions.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_all_the_templates_and_other_markup_we_need_i-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Does Structured Discussions support all the templates and other markup we need in discussions?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Does_Structured_Discussions_support_all_the_templates_and_other_markup_we_need_i-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=11&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Does Structured Discussions support all the templates and other markup we need in discussions?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Whatever markup Parsoid supports, Structured Discussions can support. Generally speaking, anything users commonly need to use (mathematical symbols, references, templates) can be added to a Structured Discussions post. You can see and test templates and other markup in the sandbox, e.g. <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Topic:Sdaf3ew396cm661w?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Topic:Sdaf3ew396cm661w">this topic</a> has some examples.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="What_happens_to_my_custom_signature?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_happens_to_my_custom_signature?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="What_happens_to_my_custom_signature.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_happens_to_my_custom_signature?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>What happens to my custom signature?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_happens_to_my_custom_signature?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=12&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: What happens to my custom signature?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Structured Discussions does not directly support custom signatures, for a couple of reasons.</p> <p>The first is that they're disruptive from a UI point of view. Custom signatures are great for letting people know who said what; they allow for a specific user to be easily, visually distinguishable in discussions. The problem is that the way this comes about is by allowing refactoring of where links live, how they're displayed, and so on. As a result, there's a complete lack of consistency, which hurts the ability of users to navigate easily. One user might have their talkpage link in one place – another in a different place, and with a signature that doesn't actually reveal their username. The second is technical; allowing people to add raw HTML formatting into Structured Discussions boards could cause serious issues and errors in how the page is displayed.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Can_I_edit_other_people's_posts?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_I_edit_other_people's_posts?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Can_I_edit_other_people.27s_posts.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_I_edit_other_people's_posts?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Can I edit other people's posts?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_I_edit_other_people's_posts?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=13&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Can I edit other people's posts?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Yes. In the current release, autoconfirmed users are able to edit the posts of others, to fix problems or look at the wikitext. When you edit another person's post, there's a clear signal on the page that the message has been edited.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Instead_or_in_parallel_of_Structured_Discussions,_will_VisualEditor_be_enabled_on_talk_pages?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Instead_or_in_parallel_of_Structured_Discussions,_will_VisualEditor_be_enabled_o-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Instead_or_in_parallel_of_Structured_Discussions.2C_will_VisualEditor_be_enabled_on_talk_pages.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Instead_or_in_parallel_of_Structured_Discussions,_will_VisualEditor_be_enabled_o-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Instead or in parallel of Structured Discussions, will VisualEditor be enabled on talk pages?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Instead_or_in_parallel_of_Structured_Discussions,_will_VisualEditor_be_enabled_o-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=14&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Instead or in parallel of Structured Discussions, will VisualEditor be enabled on talk pages?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>No. This question comes up quite often.</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/VisualEditor?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="VisualEditor">VisualEditor</a> (VE) is designed to edit content, plain pages of text.<sup id="cite_ref-:0_1-0" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-:0-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> <ul> <li>Talk pages aren't encyclopedic content. Many of the tools and design patterns that make VE nice to use to edit content make it poor to use for discussions.</li> <li>To make it usable for discussions, we would have to remove or break many of those patterns in VE.</li> </ul></li> <li>Traditional talk page discussions often appear fairly well-structured through the use of section headers, indentation and the like. However, this kind of structure cannot be parsed by software to determine with certainty who has replied to whom. <ul> <li>In Structured Discussions, each post is independent with a unique ID, linked to other posts and to a Topic (also with a unique ID), with a specific history, and all posts can be targeted precisely. It would be possible in the future to have conversations at multiple places, to move topics or replies, and to create sub-discussions with Structured Discussions. Classical talk pages, using VE or not, do not currently have that feature, and adding it might prove cumbersome.</li> </ul></li> </ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="I_can't_use_any_page_on_Structured_Discussions._Why?" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_can't_use_any_page_on_Structured_Discussions._Why?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="I_can.27t_use_any_page_on_Structured_Discussions._Why.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_can't_use_any_page_on_Structured_Discussions._Why?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>I can't use any page on Structured Discussions. Why?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_can't_use_any_page_on_Structured_Discussions._Why?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=15&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: I can't use any page on Structured Discussions. Why?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>It is probably a compatibility problem; see <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured_Discussions/Known_problems?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Structured Discussions/Known problems">Structured Discussions/Known problems</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Why_do_you_use_Topics_and_replies_URLs_that_are_not_understandable_by_a_human_(like_Topic:RdZ3SJY7W5Wtr)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_do_you_use_Topics_and_replies_URLs_that_are_not_understandable_by_a_human_(l-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Why_do_you_use_Topics_and_replies_URLs_that_are_not_understandable_by_a_human_.28like_Topic:RdZ3SJY7W5Wtr.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_do_you_use_Topics_and_replies_URLs_that_are_not_understandable_by_a_human_(l-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Why do you use Topics and replies URLs that are not understandable by a human (like Topic:RdZ3SJY7W5Wtr)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_do_you_use_Topics_and_replies_URLs_that_are_not_understandable_by_a_human_(l-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=16&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why do you use Topics and replies URLs that are not understandable by a human (like Topic:RdZ3SJY7W5Wtr)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>These URLs are an unique ID. Structured Discussions was designed to allow cross-pages and cross-wiki display which have a unique ID. It is not possible to have multiple topics titled ''Topic:Hello''. A way to change topic names was investigated to have something more explicit, like <code>Topic:Hello-RdZ3SJY7W5Wtr</code>, but that still have that necessary unique ID somewhere.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Is_there_a_way_to_all_find_pages_that_use_Structured_Discussions_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_there_a_way_to_all_find_pages_that_use_Structured_Discussions_?-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="Is_there_a_way_to_all_find_pages_that_use_Structured_Discussions_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_there_a_way_to_all_find_pages_that_use_Structured_Discussions_?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>Is there a way to all find pages that use Structured Discussions ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_there_a_way_to_all_find_pages_that_use_Structured_Discussions_?-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=17&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Is there a way to all find pages that use Structured Discussions ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>For wikis using <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Extension:CirrusSearch?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Extension:CirrusSearch">CirrusSearch</a> this can be found using the "contentmodel" keyword, e.g. <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Search/contentmodel:flow-board?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Search/contentmodel:flow-board">Special:Search/contentmodel:flow-board</a>. This will only find Structured Discussions pages, not the threads within them until they are cleanly separated (<a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73196" class="extiw" title="phab:T73196">T73196</a>).</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="I_don't_want_Structured_Discussions_on_my_talk_page._Is_it_possible_to_change_it_back_to_the_old_wikitext_style?" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_don't_want_Structured_Discussions_on_my_talk_page._Is_it_possible_to_change_it-Release_and_features_FAQ"><span id="I_don.27t_want_Structured_Discussions_on_my_talk_page._Is_it_possible_to_change_it_back_to_the_old_wikitext_style.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_don't_want_Structured_Discussions_on_my_talk_page._Is_it_possible_to_change_it-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span>I don't want Structured Discussions on my talk page. Is it possible to change it back to the old wikitext style?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_don't_want_Structured_Discussions_on_my_talk_page._Is_it_possible_to_change_it-Release_and_features_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=18&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: I don't want Structured Discussions on my talk page. Is it possible to change it back to the old wikitext style?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>It is. However, note that your existing talk page content will have to be moved to an archive, as the default wikitext model is incompatible with Structured Discussions.</p> <p>On a wiki where Structured Discussions are <b>deployed by default on user talk pages</b>, you'll need an admin at your wiki to perform that change and follow the local rules about Structured Discussions on talk pages. For other Wikimedia wikis, contact an admin or post at your village pump or similar.</p> <p>Procedure by admins:</p> <ol> <li>Move the user's current talk page content to an archive page.</li> <li>Go to <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:ChangeContentModel?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:ChangeContentModel">Special:ChangeContentModel</a> and enter the user talk page. Then select <i>wikitext</i> as the new content model. Type a reason and hit enter.</li> </ol> <p>On a wiki where Structured Discussions are available as a <b>Beta feature for talk pages</b>, go to the Beta preferences and unselect the preference "Structured Discussions on user talk".</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="Design_FAQ" data-mw-thread-id="h-Design_FAQ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Design_FAQ"></span>Design FAQ<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Design_FAQ"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=19&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Design FAQ"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Design_FAQ","replies":["h-Why_is_there_so_much_whitespace\/padding?-Design_FAQ","h-Why_is_there_limited_indenting\/threading_of_comments?-Design_FAQ","h-Why_are_we_using_big_colored_buttons?-Design_FAQ","h-Are_you_working_on_a_design_without_JavaScript,_for_users_with_accessibility_or-Design_FAQ","h-Why_is_there_gray_text?-Design_FAQ","h-Why_does_it_look_like_Facebook\/Twitter\/StackExchange,_etc.?-Design_FAQ","h-Why_are_we_using_this_Topic_and_Post_order?-Design_FAQ"]}}--> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Why_is_there_so_much_whitespace/padding?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_is_there_so_much_whitespace/padding?-Design_FAQ"><span id="Why_is_there_so_much_whitespace.2Fpadding.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_is_there_so_much_whitespace/padding?-Design_FAQ"></span>Why is there so much whitespace/padding?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_is_there_so_much_whitespace/padding?-Design_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=20&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why is there so much whitespace/padding?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Whitespace is used for your eyes' resting spots. It helps you focus on content and increases content comprehension by 20%,<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> which is important in discussing complicated issues. It decreases user dissatisfaction, which could result in an unhealthy discussion and harassment. We know what kind of harm to productive conversations misunderstandings and misinterpretation can do.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></p> <p>In addition to the above, white space helps structure a wall-sized amount of text, communicates the relationship between content, and improves scannability and readability. "The eye cannot focus on excessively close lines and … the reader expends energy in the wrong place and tires more easily. The same also holds true for lines that are too widely spaced ... Where reading is smooth and easy, the meaning content of the words is grasped more clearly[.]"<sup id="cite_ref-whitespace_4-0" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-whitespace-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> The optimal text leading is x1.5 of the text size. The text size used for Structured Discussions is 16pt at 25pt leading.<sup id="cite_ref-smashing_5-0" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-smashing-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></p> <p>That being said—there is a wide range in users' preference for information density. Core MediaWiki is very information-dense, with a completely fluid width and tight line spacing—and, possibly not coincidentally, experienced MediaWiki users tend to prefer greater information density. (This may be the equivalent of <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Natural selection">natural selection</a>.) One of the goals for Structured Discussions is to make the discussion system more accessible for new users, and part of that may include a less info-dense design. We're still figuring out the right balance, and this may include individual preferences for display density, with <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmail" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Gmail">Gmail's</a> 2013 redesign as an example.</p> <p>See the following for more discussion and analysis of whitespace and font sizes on the web:</p> <ul> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://uxmyths.com/post/2059998441/myth-28-white-space-is-wasted-space">Whitespace myth</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key%3D0AsK4MoYiBVMldE12V3FJYk95YVRUZ18xNDJNOVRrSHc%26hl%3Dde%23gid%3D0">Best practices analysis</a></li> </ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Why_is_there_limited_indenting/threading_of_comments?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_is_there_limited_indenting/threading_of_comments?-Design_FAQ"><span id="Why_is_there_limited_indenting.2Fthreading_of_comments.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_is_there_limited_indenting/threading_of_comments?-Design_FAQ"></span>Why is there limited indenting/threading of comments?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_is_there_limited_indenting/threading_of_comments?-Design_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=21&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why is there limited indenting/threading of comments?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Mobile readership is growing dramatically (currently, representing almost 1/4th of total pageviews to Wikipedia),<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>6<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> so we need to build for a future where we have users who are purely mobile-only. Multiple indentations will have problems displaying on a small screen.</p> <p>There are also many general usability arguments out there for why discussion systems that use indentation (also called nesting, branching, or threading) to indicate the relationship between comments are problematic.<sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-7"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>7<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> As <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Spolsky" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Joel Spolsky">Joel Spolsky</a> writes:</p> <blockquote> <p>Branching is very logical to a programmer's mind but it doesn't correspond to the way conversations take place in the real world. Branched discussions are disjointed to follow and distracting. (...) Branching makes discussions get off track, and reading a thread that is branched is discombobulating and unnatural. Better to force people to start a new topic if they want to get off topic.<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-8"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>8<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></p> </blockquote> <p>We want to structure conversations in a way that makes sense and fosters a healthy discussion. The framework we're proposing places more emphasis on discussing the topic and less on tangents. (Users can still engage in tangents with one another, but the primary action that is emphasized is responding to the topic.) To complement this system, we are planning to add the ability to easily split tangents off into new topics, since it's likely that long tangents are, in fact, different discussions altogether. What we want to de-emphasize (without entirely disabling) are long back-and-forth tangents between two users that have no relation to the main topic. This is usually the hallmark of an <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Flaming (Internet)">unhealthy conversation</a> or just one that needs to be moved off to a new discussion.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Why_are_we_using_big_colored_buttons?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_are_we_using_big_colored_buttons?-Design_FAQ"><span id="Why_are_we_using_big_colored_buttons.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_are_we_using_big_colored_buttons?-Design_FAQ"></span>Why are we using big colored buttons?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_are_we_using_big_colored_buttons?-Design_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=22&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why are we using big colored buttons?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The buttons in Structured Discussions are part of <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/OOUI?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/OOUI">OOUI</a> (previously from Agora), a new standardized UI library for Wikimedia projects. We use colored buttons to emphasize what to click next in order to complete a particular workflow. The blue-colored button signifies a progressive action that requires more steps ahead, while a green-colored button signifies the final progressive action. Links are used in areas where the action is not necessarily encouraged or discouraged (e.g., replying to any specific post).</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Are_you_working_on_a_design_without_JavaScript,_for_users_with_accessibility_or_browser_concerns?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Are_you_working_on_a_design_without_JavaScript,_for_users_with_accessibility_or-Design_FAQ"><span id="Are_you_working_on_a_design_without_JavaScript.2C_for_users_with_accessibility_or_browser_concerns.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Are_you_working_on_a_design_without_JavaScript,_for_users_with_accessibility_or-Design_FAQ"></span>Are you working on a design without JavaScript, for users with accessibility or browser concerns?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Are_you_working_on_a_design_without_JavaScript,_for_users_with_accessibility_or-Design_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=23&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Are you working on a design without JavaScript, for users with accessibility or browser concerns?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The aim is to make most of the core Structured Discussions functionality work without JavaScript, on older browsers, etc. The software <i>will</i> work, but it will not work <i>optimally</i>. Also, given the nature of the way Structured Discussions is designed to behave, disabling JavaScript "for performance reasons" may actually create <i>poorer</i> performance than with JavaScript. For example, the plan is for Structured Discussions to make use of a technology called <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/lazy_loading" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:lazy loading">lazy loading</a> that will reduce immediate request overhead for browsers that have JavaScript enabled. This will have the effect of causing the pages to <i>appear</i> to load faster than the non-JavaScript version, which will require all elements to load before achieving full functionality. Replying to a post with JavaScript enabled will be done in-line and quickly, in the background, while replying without JavaScript will require loading a new page, submitting the reply, and then reloading the discussion.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Why_is_there_gray_text?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_is_there_gray_text?-Design_FAQ"><span id="Why_is_there_gray_text.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_is_there_gray_text?-Design_FAQ"></span>Why is there gray text?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_is_there_gray_text?-Design_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=24&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why is there gray text?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Pure black text is harsher for the eye to read on a white background, due to strong color contrast. Text will start to flicker, users will experience eye fatigue and strain, and they will be tempted to stop reading. If my eyes gives me a limited amount of time to read and try to understand a discussion thread, especially a complicated one, I'm more likely to get frustrated and give up. That's not a good user experience. The benchmark of text color on white backgrounds to avoid these issues is #333.<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-9"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>9<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-10" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-10"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>10<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Why_does_it_look_like_Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange,_etc.?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_does_it_look_like_Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange,_etc.?-Design_FAQ"><span id="Why_does_it_look_like_Facebook.2FTwitter.2FStackExchange.2C_etc..3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_does_it_look_like_Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange,_etc.?-Design_FAQ"></span>Why does it look like Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange, etc.?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_does_it_look_like_Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange,_etc.?-Design_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=25&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why does it look like Facebook/Twitter/StackExchange, etc.?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The Wikipedia community has very different values from many of the other popular discussion websites. But the important thing to remember is that those sites have done lots of elaborate user research and A/B testing to find what works best for facilitating discussions, reducing flame-wars, and creating inviting and easy-to-use interactions. We don't want to reinvent the wheel when it comes to the basics of online discussion, and we don't want to create something that breaks most Internet users' expectations of what a discussion system looks and behaves like. Structured Discussions should be intuitive enough for <i>anyone</i> to use without having to read a manual, and that means following the best practices of discussion interface design.</p> <p>However, we are aware that the discussion system on Wikipedia is more than just a tool for communication, but also a medium for collaboration and consensus-based decision-making. We are going to keep iterating and responding to your feedback on how to better serve those usages.</p> <p>In addition to the sites you may be familiar with, here are some other sites we look to for inspiration/guidance that have structured discussion systems:</p> <ol> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:YouTube">YouTube</a></li> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flickr" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Flickr">Flickr</a></li> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhpBB" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:PhpBB">PhpBB</a></li> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Machines_Forum" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Simple Machines Forum">Simple Machines Forum</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://gawker.com/there-will-be-an-attempt-on-the-world-twerking-record-t-1384214324">Gawker</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://try.discourse.org/t/this-site-is-a-sandbox-it-is-reset-every-day/">Discourse</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://gizmodo.com/youtube-comments-will-soon-be-less-racist-homophobic-1377565582">Gizmodo</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1172843/need-advice-on-html-css-structure-for-indented-threaded-comments">StackOverflow</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://medium.com/about/5972c72b18f2">Medium</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.quora.com/Wealth/Is-getting-rich-worth-it/answers/1606930">Quora</a></li> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumblr" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Tumblr">Tumblr</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/24/4766758/youtube-introduces-radical-redesign-of-comments-tied-to-google%23comments">The Verge</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.reddit.com/r/test/comments/1mo1jj/testing_comment_depth/ccazy0e">Reddit</a></li> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livejournal" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Livejournal">Livejournal</a></li> </ol> <p>If there are patterns from these sites that you think might be interesting to explore on Wikipedia – or if there are patterns you feel do <i>not</i> belong in a Wikipedia discussion! – please let us know.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Why_are_we_using_this_Topic_and_Post_order?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_are_we_using_this_Topic_and_Post_order?-Design_FAQ"><span id="Why_are_we_using_this_Topic_and_Post_order.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_are_we_using_this_Topic_and_Post_order?-Design_FAQ"></span>Why are we using this Topic and Post order?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_are_we_using_this_Topic_and_Post_order?-Design_FAQ"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=26&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why are we using this Topic and Post order?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The default order in the current release is: new topics appear at the top of the page, and new posts within those topics appear at the bottom, below older posts. There is also a sorting feature that allows users to see the most recently active topics at the top.</p> <dl> <dt> Topic order </dt> </dl> <p>Infinite scroll, and the elimination of the need to archive - this aspect necessitates top-posting.</p> <p>More intuitive for newcomers and more efficient for seeing new/updated content. New/updated topics appearing at the top follows standard set by many forums, social media, and email.</p> <dl> <dt> Post order </dt> </dl> <p>Replies to topics appearing oldest to newest (top to bottom) make sense as a way of encouraging users to read through the existing conversation before jumping in to comment.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="References" data-mw-thread-id="h-References"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-References"></span>References<span data-mw-comment-end="h-References"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Structured_Discussions/FAQ&action=edit&section=27&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: References"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-References","replies":[]}}--> </div> <div class="mw-references-wrap"> <ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-:0-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-:0_1-0">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Based on James Forrester's <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-June/084560.html" class="extiw" title="mailarchive:wikimedia-l/2016-June/084560.html">message on wikimedia-l mailing-list</a>, June 2016</span></li> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-2">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20060220185508/http://www.humanfactors.com/downloads/dec05.asp">UI Design Newsletter – December, 2005</a>, Human Factors International</span></li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-3">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Norman A. Johnson, Randolph B. Cooper and Wynne W. Chin, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167923608001851">Anger and flaming in computer-mediated negotiation among strangers</a>, <i>Decision Support Systems</i>, Volume 46, Issue 3, February 2009, Pages 660–672</span></li> <li id="cite_note-whitespace-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-whitespace_4-0">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Barbara Chaparro, J. Ryan Baker, A. Dawn Shaikh, Spring Hull, & Laurie Brady, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://usabilitynews.org/reading-online-text-a-comparison-of-four-white-space-layouts/">[1]</a> <i>The Software Usability Research Lab (SURL)</i>, July 12, 2004</span></li> <li id="cite_note-smashing-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-smashing_5-0">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Michael Martin, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/08/typographic-design-survey-best-practices-from-the-best-blogs/">Typographic Design Patterns and Best Practices</a>, <i>Smashing Magazine</i>, August 20th, 2009</span></li> <li id="cite_note-6"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-6">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/pageviews_mobile">Mobile Pageviews</a>, Wikimedia Report Card</span></li> <li id="cite_note-7"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-7">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Jeff Attwood, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/12/web-discussions-flat-by-design.html">Web Discussions: Flat by Design</a>, Coding Horror blog</span></li> <li id="cite_note-8"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-8">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Joel Spolsky, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/BuildingCommunitieswithSo.html">Building Communities with Software</a>, Joel on Software blog</span></li> <li id="cite_note-9"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-9">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Aries Arditi, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~nilufer/classes/cs3611/interesting-stuff/designing-with-colors-1/color_contrast.htm">Designing for People with Partial Sight and Color Deficiencies</a>, Lighthouse International</span></li> <li id="cite_note-10"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Structured_Discussions/FAQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-10">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Oliver Reichenstein, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ia.net/blog/100e2r/">The 100% Easy-2-Read Standard</a>, iA</span></li> </ol> </div><!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐b766959bd‐ql8n7 Cached time: 20250216203833 Cache expiry: 2592000 Reduced expiry: false Complications: [show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.016 seconds CPU time usage: 0.263 seconds Real time usage: 0.385 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1990/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 32012/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 15539/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 17/100 Expensive parser function count: 6/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 8810/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.029/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1059042/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 167.793 1 -total 87.98% 147.631 1 Template:Structured_Discussions_Navigation 85.26% 143.058 1 Template:Sidebar 55.06% 92.382 24 Template:Ll 33.40% 56.048 48 Template:Translatable 27.24% 45.714 27 Template:Pagelang 10.48% 17.587 3 Template:Dir 8.20% 13.758 1 Template:Main 7.94% 13.328 2 Template:TNTN 6.58% 11.037 1 Template:Navbar --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key mediawikiwiki:pcache:721893:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20250216203833 and revision id 6662714. 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