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class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Gulingkan subbagian Diskusi: Pelanggaran Keamanan</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Fitnah" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fitnah"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">1.1</span> <span>Fitnah</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Fitnah-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Pengancaman" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Pengancaman"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">1.2</span> <span>Pengancaman</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Pengancaman-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Penyerangan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Penyerangan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">1.3</span> <span>Penyerangan</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Penyerangan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2</span> <span>Diskusi: Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 komentar</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Gulingkan subbagian Diskusi: Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Tata_cara_pelaporan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tata_cara_pelaporan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.1</span> <span>Tata cara pelaporan</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Tata_cara_pelaporan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3</span> <span>Diskusi: Prosedur Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 komentar</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Gulingkan subbagian Diskusi: Prosedur Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Kewajiban_pengurus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Kewajiban_pengurus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.1</span> <span>Kewajiban pengurus</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Kewajiban_pengurus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Penugasan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Penugasan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.2</span> <span>Penugasan</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Penugasan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>Perpanjangan waktu diskusi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 komentar</span> <ul id="toc-Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Komisi_Ombudsman" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Komisi_Ombudsman"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>Komisi Ombudsman</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 komentar</span> <ul id="toc-Komisi_Ombudsman-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Pemungutan_suara" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Pemungutan_suara"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Pemungutan suara</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">26 komentar</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Pemungutan_suara-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Gulingkan subbagian Pemungutan suara</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Pemungutan_suara-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Setuju" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Setuju"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6.1</span> <span>Setuju</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Setuju-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tidak_setuju" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tidak_setuju"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6.2</span> <span>Tidak setuju</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Tidak_setuju-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Abstain" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Abstain"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6.3</span> <span>Abstain</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Abstain-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hasil" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hasil"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6.4</span> <span>Hasil</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Hasil-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Keputusan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Keputusan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6.5</span> <span>Keputusan</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Keputusan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Alamat_pelaporan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Alamat_pelaporan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Alamat pelaporan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 komentar</span> <ul id="toc-Alamat_pelaporan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Amandemen_dan_tambahan_pada_kebijakan_ini_pada_WP:PAKET2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Amandemen_dan_tambahan_pada_kebijakan_ini_pada_WP:PAKET2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>Amandemen dan tambahan pada kebijakan ini pada WP:PAKET2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 komentar</span> <ul id="toc-Amandemen_dan_tambahan_pada_kebijakan_ini_pada_WP:PAKET2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div class="mw-content-container"> <main id="content" class="mw-body"> <header class="mw-body-header vector-page-titlebar"> <nav aria-label="Daftar isi" class="vector-toc-landmark"> <div id="vector-page-titlebar-toc" class="vector-dropdown vector-page-titlebar-toc vector-button-flush-left" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-page-titlebar-toc" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Gulingkan daftar isi" > <label id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-label" for="vector-page-titlebar-toc-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only " aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-listBullet mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-listBullet"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Gulingkan daftar isi</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> </div> </div> </div> </nav> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading"><span class="mw-page-title-namespace">Pembicaraan Wikipedia</span><span class="mw-page-title-separator">:</span><span class="mw-page-title-main">Kebijakan keamanan penyuntingan</span></h1> <div id="p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown mw-portlet mw-portlet-lang mw-portlet-lang-icon-only" > <input type="checkbox" id="p-lang-btn-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox mw-interlanguage-selector-empty" aria-label="Artikel ini hanya tersedia dalam bahasa ini. Terjemahkan artikelnya ke dalam bahasa lain" > <label id="p-lang-btn-label" for="p-lang-btn-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only mw-portlet-lang-heading-empty" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-language mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-language"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Tambah bahasa</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div class="mw-portlet-empty-language-selector-body"> Konten halaman tidak didukung dalam bahasa lain. </div> </div> </div> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=new" class="cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--action-progressive" id="ca-addsection" data-event-name="addsection-header"><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-speechBubbleAdd-progressive mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-speechBubbleAdd-progressive"></span> <span>Bagian baru</span> </a> </header> <div class="vector-page-toolbar"> <div class="vector-page-toolbar-container"> <div id="left-navigation"> <nav aria-label="Ruang nama"> <div id="p-associated-pages" class="vector-menu vector-menu-tabs mw-portlet mw-portlet-associated-pages" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-nstab-project" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan" title="Lihat halaman proyek [c]" accesskey="c"><span>Halaman proyek</span></a></li><li id="ca-talk" class="selected vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan" rel="discussion" title="Pembicaraan halaman isi [t]" accesskey="t"><span>Pembicaraan</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="vector-variants-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown emptyPortlet" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-variants-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-variants-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Ubah varian bahasa" > <label id="vector-variants-dropdown-label" for="vector-variants-dropdown-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Bahasa Indonesia</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="p-variants" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-variants emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> <div id="right-navigation" class="vector-collapsible"> <nav aria-label="Tampilan"> <div id="p-views" class="vector-menu vector-menu-tabs mw-portlet mw-portlet-views" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-view" class="selected vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan"><span>Baca</span></a></li><li id="ca-edit" class="istalk vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit" title="Sunting kode sumber halaman ini [e]" accesskey="e"><span>Sunting sumber</span></a></li><li id="ca-history" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=history" title="Revisi sebelumnya dari halaman ini. [h]" accesskey="h"><span>Lihat riwayat</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </nav> <nav class="vector-page-tools-landmark" aria-label="Peralatan halaman"> <div id="vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown vector-page-tools-dropdown" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Perkakas" > <label id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-label" for="vector-page-tools-dropdown-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Perkakas</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-page-tools-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> <div id="vector-page-tools" class="vector-page-tools vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-page-tools-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-unpinned" data-feature-name="page-tools-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-page-tools" data-pinned-container-id="vector-page-tools-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-page-tools-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Perkakas</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-page-tools.pin">pindah ke bilah sisi</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-page-tools.unpin">sembunyikan</button> </div> <div id="p-cactions" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-cactions emptyPortlet vector-has-collapsible-items" title="Opsi lainnya" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Tindakan </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-more-view" class="selected vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan"><span>Baca</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-edit" class="istalk vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit" title="Sunting kode sumber halaman ini [e]" accesskey="e"><span>Sunting sumber</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-addsection" class="vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=new"><span>Bagian baru</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-history" class="vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=history"><span>Lihat riwayat</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-tb" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-tb" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Umum </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="t-whatlinkshere" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Istimewa:Pranala_balik/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan" title="Daftar semua halaman wiki yang memiliki pranala ke halaman ini [j]" accesskey="j"><span>Pranala balik</span></a></li><li id="t-recentchangeslinked" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Istimewa:Perubahan_terkait/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan" rel="nofollow" title="Perubahan terbaru halaman-halaman yang memiliki pranala ke halaman ini [k]" accesskey="k"><span>Perubahan terkait</span></a></li><li id="t-specialpages" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Istimewa:Halaman_istimewa" title="Daftar semua halaman istimewa [q]" accesskey="q"><span>Halaman istimewa</span></a></li><li id="t-permalink" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&oldid=24973033" title="Pranala permanen untuk revisi halaman ini"><span>Pranala permanen</span></a></li><li id="t-info" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=info" title="Informasi lanjut tentang halaman ini"><span>Informasi halaman</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Istimewa:UrlShortener&url=https%3A%2F%2Fid.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPembicaraan_Wikipedia%3AKebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan"><span>Lihat URL pendek</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener-qrcode" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Istimewa:QrCode&url=https%3A%2F%2Fid.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPembicaraan_Wikipedia%3AKebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan"><span>Unduh kode QR</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-coll-print_export" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-coll-print_export" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Cetak/ekspor </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="coll-create_a_book" class="mw-list-item"><a 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Halaman ini dibagi menjadi tiga bagian diskusi utama: Pelanggaran Keamaan, Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan, dan Prosedur Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan. Harap untuk mendiskusikan masing-masing bab pada bagian yang telah ditentukan. Terima kasih. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-24T14:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 Juni 2020 14.43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-24T14:43:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-24T14:43:00.000Z"></span> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Diskusi: Pelanggaran Keamanan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=1" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Diskusi: Pelanggaran Keamanan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Komentar terbaru: <a href="#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:36:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:36:00.000Z">4 tahun yang lalu</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>12 komentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 orang dalam diskusi</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:28:00.000Z-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan"></span>"Seorang pengguna Wikipedia tidak boleh memfitnah/melecehkan/mengancam/menyerang pengguna lain." menurutku perlu diperluas, sesuatu seperti: "Siapa pun dilarang melakukan fitnah/pelecehan/ancamann/serangan dalam bentuk apa pun kepada siapa pun." Intinya, Wikipediawan memfitnah non-Wikipediawan, atau non-Wikipediawan memfitnah Wikipediawan juga tidak diperkenankan. Jika tidak, formulasi seperti ini sama sekali tidak melindungi Wikipediawan dari hal-hal ini dilakukan oleh non-Wikipediawan (i.e. pembaca/pers/pengunjung) untuk melakukannya. </p><p>Dari yang saya baca, banyak tumpang tindih definisi, cakupan*, dan tujuannya ("memastikan keamanan [Wikipediawan] dari serangan, gangguan, maupun pengancaman baik di dalam maupun di luar Wikipedia"). Dengan formula tersebut, tidak ada jaminan keamanan dari hal-hal tersebut yang di luar Wikipedia. (*Pasal "penghinaan", misalnya, menurutku perlu dikeluarkan dari bagian "pengancaman" dan "penyerangan", dan dimasukkan ke "pelecehan") </p><p>Selain itu, dalam hal definisi, bisa dipertimbangkan menggunakan KBBI sebagai acuan, maupun catatan tambahan: </p> <ul><li>fit·nah n perkataan bohong atau tanpa berdasarkan kebenaran yg disebarkan dng maksud menjelekkan orang (spt menodai nama baik, merugikan kehormatan orang)</li> <li>mem·fit·nah v menjelekkan nama orang (menodai nama baik, merugikan kehormatan, dsb)</li> <li>melecehkan v memandang rendah (tidak berharga); menghinakan; mengabaikan;</li> <li>mengancam v menyatakan maksud (niat, rencana) untuk melakukan sesuatu yg merugikan, menyulitkan, menyusahkan, atau mencelakakan pihak lain</li> <li>me·nye·rang v 1 mendatangi untuk melawan (melukai, memerangi, dsb); menyerbu</li></ul> <p><a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#444444;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">runding</a>｣</small></sup> 1 Juli 2020 08.07 (WIB) </p> <dl><dd>Kalau begitu, saya usul sebuah ketentuan larangan yang mencakup seluruhnya di awal bab:</dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r21477316">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 40px}.mw-parser-output .templatequote .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;padding-left:1.6em;margin-top:0}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Siapa pun dilarang memfitnah, melecehkan, mengancam, dan/atau menyerang dalam bentuk apa pun kepada siapa pun di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia.</p></blockquote> <dl><dd>Definisi fitnah diganti menjadi:</dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r21477316"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Suatu perbuatan berkata bohong atau tanpa berdasarkan kebenaran yang disebarkan dengan maksud menjelekkan nama, membuat rendah kehormatan, dan/atau merusak reputasi seseorang di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia.</p></blockquote> <dl><dd>Definisi pelecehan diganti menjadi:</dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r21477316"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Suatu perbuatan yang menghinakan, mengabaikan, atau membuat rendah seseorang yang menjadi sasarannya dengan maksud membuat orang tersebut menjadi tidak nyaman dalam menyunting di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia.</p></blockquote> <dl><dd>Definisi pengancaman diganti menjadi:</dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r21477316"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Suatu perbuatan menyatakan maksud, dalam bentuk niat maupun rencana, untuk melakukan sesuatu perbuatan yang merugikan, menyulitkan, menyusahkan, atau mencelakakan seseorang di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia.</p></blockquote> <dl><dd>Definisi pembeberan (baru) ditambahkan:</dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r21477316"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Suatu perbuatan membeberkan informasi pribadi tentang seseorang tanpa persetujuan orang tersebut di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia.</p></blockquote> <dl><dd>Definisi penyerangan diganti menjadi:</dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r21477316"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Suatu perbuatan yang telah dilakukan secara maya, lisan, atau tertulis yang menyebabkan kerugian, kesulitan, kesusahan, atau kecelakaan atas seseorang di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia.</p></blockquote> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:28:00.000Z-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2 Juli 2020 11.28 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:28:00.000Z-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:28:00.000Z-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Fitnah" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fitnah-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fitnah-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Fitnah<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fitnah-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=2" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Fitnah"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z-Fitnah"></span>Boleh tahu apa hubungan antara penambahan kebijakan ini dan peristiwa mutakhir? Dengan tidak mengurangi hormat, aku kurang mengerti kenapa ini ditambahkan. Selain itu, apa ini cakupannya untuk konten artikel, atau komunikasi antar pengguna? Sepemahamanku, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fitnah" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fitnah">Wikipedia:Fitnah</a> (dan <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Libel" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Libel">en:Wikipedia:Libel</a> yang terkait) itu lebih mengatur konten artikel. Misal artikel <a href="/wiki/Joko_Widodo" title="Joko Widodo">Joko Widodo</a> atau <a href="/wiki/Prabowo_Subianto" title="Prabowo Subianto">Prabowo Subianto</a> enggak boleh kita tambahin konten negatif yang tidak didukung sumber. Kalau komunikasi pengguna, banyak hal-hal seperti "Wah artikel ini ditulisnya asal-asalan", atau "Penguna A suka parah kalau nerjemahin artikel" yang menurutku tidak harus sampai ditangani sebagai pelanggaran keamanan. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z-Fitnah" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 Juni 2020 15.19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z-Fitnah"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z-Fitnah"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:08:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Sebenarnya bagian ini dimaksudkan untuk fitnah yang dilakukan oleh sesama kontributor dan terjadi pada ruang nama Wikipedia (pembicaan, warkop, RfC dsb, terpisah dari fitnah konten pada ruang nama artikel. Pemfitnahan ini juga bisa terjadi di luar Wikipedia, namun secara terang merujuk kepada pengguna tertentu atau perbuatannya di Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:08:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">27 Juni 2020 18.08 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:08:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:08:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-06-28T16:38:00.000Z-Fitnah"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">David Wadie Fisher-Freberg</a> sepertinya masukan dari bung @<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> belum dijawab semua tuh. </p> <ol><li>Perlu diperinci kalau fitnahnya dilakukan sesama Wikipediawan di ruang nama Wikipedia dan bukan konten karena ada pengguna yang punya halamannya sendiri (misalnya <a href="/wiki/Revo_Arka_Giri_Soekatno" title="Revo Arka Giri Soekatno">Revo Arka Giri Soekatno</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ivan_Lanin" title="Ivan Lanin">Ivan Lanin</a>, <a href="/wiki/Christian_Sugiono" title="Christian Sugiono">Christian Sugiono</a>, dll).</li> <li>"Stigma negatif" ini cakupannya luas loh. Seperti yang dibilang bung HaEr48, kalau misalkan ada yang bilang terjemahan bung HaEr48 "selalu jelek" sehingga sebaiknya jangan menerjemahkan dulu, bisa termasuk ke dalam cakupan "stigma negatif" kan?</li></ol> <p><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Danu_Widjajanto" title="Pengguna:Danu Widjajanto">Danu Widjajanto</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Danu_Widjajanto" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Danu Widjajanto">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-06-28T16:38:00.000Z-Fitnah" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">28 Juni 2020 16.38 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-06-28T16:38:00.000Z-Fitnah"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-06-28T16:38:00.000Z-Fitnah"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:26:00.000Z-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-06-28T16:38:00.000Z"></span>Kalau begitu apa WP:FITNAH tidak jadi aturan yang dicabut oleh proposal ini karena subjek aturannya berbeda? <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RXerself" title="Pengguna:RXerself">RXerself</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:RXerself" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:RXerself">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:26:00.000Z-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-06-28T16:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 Juni 2020 08.26 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:26:00.000Z-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-06-28T16:38:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:26:00.000Z-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-06-28T16:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:56:00.000Z-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Perlu ditambahi contoh. <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#222222;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">bicara</a>｣</small></sup> 1 Juli 2020 08.27 (WIB) <dl><dd>Sudah diperbaharui dengan mempertegas ketentuan tentang komunikasi antarpengguna. Mungkin bisa diubah menjadi "fitnah atas diri pribadi/terhadap pengguna lain" untuk membedakannya dengan WP:FITNAH. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:56:00.000Z-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2 Juli 2020 11.56 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:56:00.000Z-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:26:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:56:00.000Z-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:36:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:56:00.000Z"></span>Menurutku ini masih terlalu luas untuk dianggap sebagai masalah keamanan. Nanti takutnya jadi "<a href="/wiki/Pasal_karet" title="Pasal karet">pasal karet</a>". Bagaimana kalau dikaitkan dengan keamanan saja, misal: yang dilarang hanyalah fitnah yang berakibat terganggunya keamanan pribadi pengguna lain. Jadi kalau misalnya ada yang menyebut aku pemalas kalau nulis artikel, atau tulisanku suka amburadul, itu bukan isu keamanan, tapi kalau ada yang nuduh pengguna lain gembong PKI terus dikoar-koarkan di media sosial, barulah itu bisa dianggap pelanggaran keamanan. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:36:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3 Juli 2020 18.36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:36:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:56:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:36:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:36:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:36:00.000Z"></span>Saya tambahkan klausul "yang berakibat pada terganggunya keamanan diri pribadi pengguna yang difitnah." <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:36:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2020 06.36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:36:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:36:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:36:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Pengancaman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pengancaman-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-07-02T11:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pengancaman-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-07-02T11:43:00.000Z"></span>Pengancaman<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pengancaman-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-07-02T11:43:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=3" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Pengancaman"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:43:00.000Z-Pengancaman"></span>"Penguntitan" menurutku tidak berhubungan dengan "pengancaman". Tidak membahayakan, hanya menjengkelkan, dan tidak bisa dibuktikan. Kecuali kalau penguntitan di dunia nyata, itu sudah masuk ancaman. <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#222222;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">bicara</a>｣</small></sup> 1 Juli 2020 08.27 (WIB) </p> <dl><dd>Sepakat dihapus, dan ketentuan penguntitan di dunia nyata masuk ke dalam pengancaman. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:43:00.000Z-Pengancaman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2 Juli 2020 11.43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:43:00.000Z-Pengancaman"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:43:00.000Z-Pengancaman"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Penyerangan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Penyerangan-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Penyerangan-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Penyerangan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Penyerangan-Diskusi:_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=4" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Penyerangan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z-Penyerangan"></span>Apa istilah "penyerangan" terlalu generik untuk ini, karena contoh-contohnya terlihat sangat spesifik. Apa "Pembeberan" lebih cocok? <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z-Penyerangan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 Juni 2020 15.19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z-Penyerangan"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z-Penyerangan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:09:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Pemikirannya adalah pelanggaran keamanan ini sudah terjadi dan ya, memang contohnya cukup spesifik. Kalau "pembeberan" saya pikir cocok untuk dua kategori saja, tidak meliputi perbuatan pengaduan yang juga masuk. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:09:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">27 Juni 2020 18.09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:09:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:09:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:38:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:09:00.000Z"></span>"Penyerangan adalah perbuatan yang telah dilakukan sedemikian rupa sehingga merugikan, menghinakan, dan/atau membahayakan sesuatu golongan di dalam jaringan Wikipedia maupun di luar jaringan/dunia nyata, atas sebab-sebab tertentu, serta dapat melanggar peraturan hukum tertentu.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Seorang pengguna tidak boleh menyerang pengguna lain." </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Definisi dan skop penyerangan menurutku cukup kabur. Istilah ini lebih cocok "penyerangan secara maya, secara verbal/tertulis, secara digital" dan bukan "penyerangan fisik" (definisi kamus: pe·nye·rang·an n proses, cara, perbuatan menyerang; penyerbuan; agresi). Kemudian, terkait dengan serangan secara digital/tulisan, itu dapat ditafsirkan secara subjektif*; orang yang sensitif dapat merasa diserang dengan kata-kata teguran yang keras, misalnya.. terutama kata "merugikan", "menghinakan" ini penafsirannya bisa sangat luas (kerugian non-materiil, perasaan, dll.). "Peraturan hukum tertentu" juga multitafsir apakah hukum Indonesia, hukum negara x, atau hukum internasional? (*Beda halnya dengan fitnah, pelecehan, ancaman yang dapat dibuktikan dari fakta dan kata-kata yang digunakan)</dd> <dd>Saya setuju contoh yang pertama dan ketiga lebih condong ke "pembeberan", bukan "penyerangan". Contoh kedua, tidak jelas apa kerugian dari "diadukan" (tidak secara inheren negatif, kecuali diancam tuntutan hukum seperti di bagian "pengancaman")</dd> <dd>"Penyerangan", kalau mau dibedakan dari "pelecehan" menurutku bisa diarahkan ke serangan fisik (di dunia nyata), dan juga mencakup semua hal negatif yang dilakukan di tengah ketiadaan "pelecehan" dan "pengancaman". Jadi misalnya, tidak dilecehkan maupun tidak diancam, tiba-tiba diserang di dunia nyata, namun serangan ini harus bisa dibuktikan berhubungan dengan aktivitasnya di Wikipedia. Jadi lebih baik bagian ini dijadikan "pembeberan", atau dibuat bagian kelima. <dl><dd>Sepakat. Ditambahkan. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:38:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2 Juli 2020 11.38 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:38:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:09:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-02T11:38:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-27T18:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z"></span>Diskusi: Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=5" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Diskusi: Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Komentar terbaru: <a href="#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:40:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:42:00.000Z">4 tahun yang lalu</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 komentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 orang dalam diskusi</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p>Seperti yang saya tulis di atas, kalau mau menjaga keamanan Wikipediawan dari dalam dan luar komunitas Wikipedia, maka dalam penyusunan tata cara penanganan ini juga perlu dipertimbangkan apabila yang melapor atau yang terlapor bukan dari anggota komunitas, alias hanya pembaca, penyunting anonim, atau kategori lainnya, antara lain dengan mengganti nomenklatur "seorang pengguna yang ...", menjadi misalnya "pengguna dan pembaca yang ..."(?). <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#227722;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">bicara</a>｣</small></sup> 1 Juli 2020 08.42 (WIB) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Tata_cara_pelaporan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tata_cara_pelaporan-Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tata_cara_pelaporan-Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z"></span>Tata cara pelaporan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tata_cara_pelaporan-Diskusi:_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=6" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Tata cara pelaporan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z-Tata_cara_pelaporan"></span>Apakah semua pelecehan, penanganan, dan penyerangan harus ditangani lewat surel? Aku rasa ini cukup bertentangan dengan prinsip pengambilan keputusan Wikipedia yang transparan. Misalnya, kalau aku dituduh melakukan pelanggaran, bagaimana bisa membela diri dengan efektif kalau semuanya di belakang layar? Bandingkan dengan proses pencabutan status pengurus sekarang yang ada halaman diskusi terbukanya. Si tertuduh bisa membaca tuduhan, membela diri, dan pengguna lain juga bisa berkomentar sehingga lebih jelas duduk perkaranya. Ini akan susah kalau semua di belakang layar. Selain itu, kalau ada perdebatan pendapat yang harus diputuskan oleh pengurus yang menangani, bagaimana keputusan itu bisa dipertanggungjawabkan kalau semuanya tertutup? Saranku, kalau memang ada proses khusus, by default tetap terbuka saja di Wikipedia. Hanya kalau ada masalah sensitif, misal identitas pribadi atau keamanan pribadi, baru prosesnya bisa dilakukan secara tertutup. Kalau hal-hal seperti A menuduh B kampungan (ini contoh dari bagian #Pelanggaran keamanan), atau X suka mengancam Y tanpa bawa-bawa identitas pribadi, tetap bisa diproses secara terbuka. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z-Tata_cara_pelaporan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 Juni 2020 16.00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z-Tata_cara_pelaporan"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z-Tata_cara_pelaporan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:35:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z"></span>Pertimbangan utama dalam merumuskan ini adalah keamanan si terlapor maupun pelapor. Khawatirnya kalau proses ini dilakukan secara terbuka di Wikipedia, maka akan mengundang hal yang justru akan mengganggu proses penyelesaian masalah dan malah memperburuk keamanan keduanya, misalnya ada beberapa pengguna lain yang ikut campur tanpa diundang dan bersilang pendapat dengan sengit sampai malah melanggar keamanan juga, tanpa menyelesaikan proses yang asli. Yang membedakannya dengan proses pencabutan pengurus adalah pelanggaran keamanan bisa berdampak serius (dalam hal pengancaman) atau malah sudah berdampak serius (dalam hal penyerangan) pada keamanan seorang pengguna Wikipedia. Namun ya, perlu dipertimbangkan juga semangat transparansi, jadi mungkin saya pikir untuk kasus-kasus pelecehan dapat diadakan penyelesaian secara terbuka, namun dengan ketentuan yang tegas bahwa jika salah satu dari pelapor/terlapor merasa keamanannya sudah terganggu, maka proses penyelesaian langsung dipindahkan ke ranah privat. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:35:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30 Juni 2020 17.35 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:35:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:35:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T16:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dede2008-2020-07-01T12:46:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:35:00.000Z"></span>"Seorang pengguna yang merasa dirinya difitnah di Wikipedia dapat melaporkan perbuatan tersebut kepada pengurus melalui halaman permintaan perhatian pengurus atau melalui surat elektronik khusus."</dd> <dd>Kalau kasus kemarin masalahnya fitnah/serangan/ancaman terjadi di luar Wikipedia (Twitter, FB, dsb.), sehingga hal tersebut perlu dimasukkan juga di sini. (di ketiga bagian sesudahnya diberi penekanan "di dalam maupun di luar Wikipedia", tapi tidak di bagian ini)</dd> <dd><s>Di bagian "Penanganan ancaman", terutama kalau ada "ancaman hukum", perlu klausul bantuan hukum dari WMID?</s> <small>Sudah dibahas di bagian kewajiban pengurus</small></dd> <dd>Di bagian "Penanganan penyerangan", terkait komentar saya di subbagian sebelumnya, perlu diperjelas (dipisah?) antara pembeberan, penyerangan verbal/tulisan (masuk kategori fitnah/pelecehan/ancaman?) dan penyerangan fisik di dunia nyata (kalau perlu). Membaca sampai di sini, saya belum bisa membedakan antara konten serangan yang bukan masuk kategori pelecehan/ancaman, sehingga bagian ini perlu dibedakan/diperjelas dari kedua bagian sebelumnya. <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#442244;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">diskusi</a>｣</small></sup> 1 Juli 2020 08.52 (WIB) <dl><dd>Saya mengusulkan adanya yang semacam Responding the Threats of harm di Wikipedia Inggris utk pelaporan ancaman kpd pengguna tertentu (<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Responding_to_threats_of_harm">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Responding_to_threats_of_harm</a>) entah lewat role account Emergency atau surel pengaduan tertentu yang digunakan utk melaporkan ancaman yang diterima. Menurut saya laporan semacam ini seharusnya disampaikan melalui wadah yang privat, karena menyangkut privasi si pelapor. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pengguna:Dede2008">Dede2008</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Dede2008">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Dede2008-2020-07-01T12:46:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1 Juli 2020 12.46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dede2008-2020-07-01T12:46:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:35:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dede2008-2020-07-01T12:46:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:42:00.000Z-Dede2008-2020-07-01T12:46:00.000Z"></span>Aku tidak mempermasalahkan kalau <i>sebagian</i> masalah sebaiknya dilakukan secara privat untuk menyangkut privasi pelapor, yang aku ingin tanyakan adalah apakah <i>semua</i> pelanggaran dalam kelompok tersebut harus diselesaikan secara privat? Misal ada pengguna yang suka menggunakan kata-kata kasar di halaman pembicaraanku, apakah aku <i>harus</i> melaporkan lewat email dan tidak boleh melaporkan lewat jalur bisa di Wikipedia? <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:42:00.000Z-Dede2008-2020-07-01T12:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3 Juli 2020 18.42 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:42:00.000Z-Dede2008-2020-07-01T12:46:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:42:00.000Z-Dede2008-2020-07-01T12:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:40:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:42:00.000Z"></span>Mungkin harus dipisahkan model pelaporan berdasarkan pelanggarannya. Saya kira kategori pelecehan bisa dilaporkan secara publik di Wikipedia, namun kategori pelanggaran yang lain harus melalui surel khusus. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:40:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2020 06.40 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:40:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:42:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T06:40:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span>Diskusi: Prosedur Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=7" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Diskusi: Prosedur Penanganan Pelanggaran Keamanan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Komentar terbaru: <a href="#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T08:05:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:49:00.000Z">4 tahun yang lalu</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>8 komentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 orang dalam diskusi</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Kewajiban_pengurus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kewajiban_pengurus-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kewajiban_pengurus-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span>Kewajiban pengurus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kewajiban_pengurus-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=8" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Kewajiban pengurus"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z-Kewajiban_pengurus"></span>Apakah perlu dipikirkan alternatif lain selain mengandalkan pengurus? Kekhawatiranku adalah proses yang disebut disini cukup sensitif dan perlu orang yang sangat tepercaya. Sedangkan pengurus itu adalah sukarelawan biasa, dan selama ini fokusnya lebih ke hal-hal seperti menangani vandalisme, menghapus halaman tidak layak, memblokir vandal dan pengguna disruptif, proteksi halaman dan perbaikan halaman terproteksi, dan sebagainya. Ketika pemilihan pun biasanya kita tidak sampai mengusut apakah pengguna tersebut layak untuk mengurusi perihal sensitif atau tidak. Yang penting riwayat suntingan dan perilakunya memadai dan jawabannya memuaskan saja. Kalau ingin memperketat seleksi pengurus, aku rasa kurang tepat karena karena nanti akan menyusutkan kader pengurus yang tetap kita perlukan untuk menangani vandalisme, penghapusan, proteksi, dan sebagainya. Saranku dibuat posisi baru yang proses seleksinya lebih ketat. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z-Kewajiban_pengurus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 Juni 2020 15.45 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z-Kewajiban_pengurus"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z-Kewajiban_pengurus"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:37:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span>Untuk mekanisme pengurus, memang belum ada diskusi di antara para pengurus di sini bagaimana pembagian kewenangannya nanti. Namun dari pemikiran saya sendiri, yang akan dipercaya menjalankan tugas-tugas menyelesaikan pelanggaran keamanan ini adalah pengurus yang mau dan mengajukan diri saja, yang berarti tidak semua pengurus wpid saat ini. Memperketat seleksi pengurus saya kira bukan pilihan, mengingat wpid sendiri sudah sangat kekurangan pengurus. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:37:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30 Juni 2020 17.37 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:37:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:37:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:49:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:37:00.000Z"></span>"Melaporkan pelanggaran keamanan yang ia alami atau ia lihat terjadi kepada pengguna lain kepada pengurus."</dd> <dd>Mungkin cara pelaporannya perlu diperjelas, kepada pengurus siapa, karena tidak semua pengurus dapat dan/atau mampu mengurusi masalah keamanan, dan bayangkan apabila ke depan ada puluhan/ratusan pengurus di WBI, perlu diperkecil jumlah yang terlibat. Entah pengurus yang menangani ini perlu dipilih, mencalonkan diri, atau ditunjuk(?), dan idealnya posisinya tidak permanen, ada arsip terpisah yang tertutup (wiki tertutup, milis khusus, grup medsos tertentu, dsb.), sehingga dapat diteruskan ke pejabat berikutnya. Mungkin, tapi tidak harus, seperti Abitration Committee yang terpisah dari pengurus. <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#227722;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">bicara</a>｣</small></sup> 1 Juli 2020 08.42 (WIB)</dd> <dd>PS: Setuju dengan HaEr. Perlu dirumuskan lebih lanjut/terpisah. Tapi di proposal ini perlu disebutkan demikian, i.e. "pengurus khusus" (yang akan diatur lebih lanjut)</dd> <dd>Ada kemungkinan antara pelapor dan terlapor tidak bisa dihubungi. <small>– komentar <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Tanda_tangani_pembicaraan_Anda_pada_halaman_diskusi" title="Wikipedia:Tanda tangani pembicaraan Anda pada halaman diskusi">tanpa tanda tangan</a> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://id.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=history">oleh</a></span> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin">Bennylin</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">b</a> • <a href="/wiki/Istimewa:Kontribusi_pengguna/Bennylin" title="Istimewa:Kontribusi pengguna/Bennylin">k</a>).</small> <dl><dd>Aku juga setuju dengan usulan Bung Bennylin diatas, tentang perlunya pengurus khusus yang menangani ini, yang bentuknya bisa seperti Arbitration Commitee (tetapi tidak harus, bisa bentuk lain juga), dan punya jalur komunikasi khusus (baik terbuka dan tertutup), seperti milis khusus. Sebaiknya sekalian dijabarkan saja formatnya di proposal kebijakan ini, nanti bisa kita diskusikan lagi. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:49:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3 Juli 2020 18.49 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:49:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:37:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:49:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T08:05:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:49:00.000Z"></span>Saya lebih sepakat dengan model <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombuds_commission" class="extiw" title="meta:Ombuds commission">Ombuds commission Meta</a> dibanding ArbCom, yang lebih rumit dan seringkali malah menarik sengketa lain. Akan saya coba jabarkan idenya. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T08:05:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2020 08.05 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T08:05:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:49:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T08:05:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-07-03T18:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Penugasan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Penugasan-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Penugasan-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span>Penugasan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Penugasan-Diskusi:_Prosedur_Penanganan_Pelanggaran_Keamanan-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=9" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Penugasan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z-Penugasan"></span>Pengurus kan ada banyak, bagaimana memutuskan pengurus mana yang bertugas menangani suatu masalah? Bagaimana kalau pengurus yang ditunjuk sedang sibuk, atau tidak bersedia untuk menangani? Apakah ada sistem rotasi, atau dipilih pelapor? Kalau pelapor yang memilih, bagaimana pelapor bisa tahu pengurus mana yang cocok, mengingat mereka belum tentu kenal pengurus manapun? Bagaimana kalau satu pengurus dipilih terus sehingga kebanyakan menyita waktunya? Menurutku, pengurus tetap berstatus sukarelawan, dan berhak menolak "tugas" apapun. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z-Penugasan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 Juni 2020 15.45 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z-Penugasan"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z-Penugasan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:32:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span>Menurut saya, sebaiknya pengurus di sini yang dimaksud adalah semua pengurus saja sehingga jika seseroang melaporkan pelanggaran ke salah satu pengurus, si pengurus itu wajib memberi tahu pengurus-pengurus lainnya dan kewajiban-kewajiban yang ada di proposal menjadi tanggung jawab bareng semua pengurus. Jadi jika ada satu orang yang tidak bisa atau sibuk, baik dia jadi yang menerima laporan pertama atau tidak, pengurus yang lain tetap bisa membantu. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RXerself" title="Pengguna:RXerself">RXerself</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:RXerself" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:RXerself">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:32:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 Juni 2020 08.32 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:32:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:32:00.000Z-HaEr48-2020-06-26T15:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:40:00.000Z-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:32:00.000Z"></span>Menyambung dari jawaban di atas, terus terang memang masih belum ada mekanisme yang jelas untuk ini. Saya cenderung setengah setuju dengan ide <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RXerself" title="Pengguna:RXerself">RXerself</a> bahwa pengurus yang menerima laporan (melalui alamat surel khusus yang hanya bisa diakses oleh para pengurus yang mengajukan diri menangani pelanggaran keamanan) harus melapor ke seluruh pengurus lain, tetapi masih belum jelas bagaimana nantinya akan ditangani oleh seluruh pengurus yang tingkat keaktifannya berbeda-beda. Mungkin ada pendapat lain? <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:40:00.000Z-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30 Juni 2020 17.40 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:40:00.000Z-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:40:00.000Z-RXerself-2020-06-29T08:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-04T10:24:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:40:00.000Z"></span>Masalah keaktifan ini memang cukup rumit. Pengurus yang tidak terlibat langsung dengan masalah pasti akan cenderung diam saja dan tidak mau ikut campur (kecuali apabila ia peduli <i>cyber security</i>). Wikimedia Indonesia siap saja membantu menangani masalah ini, hanya untuk penanganannya pasti akan melibatkan pengurus yang sedang "terancam" pula. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RaymondSutanto" title="Pengguna:RaymondSutanto">RaymondSutanto</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:RaymondSutanto" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:RaymondSutanto">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-04T10:24:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 Juli 2020 10.24 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-04T10:24:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:40:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-04T10:24:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-06-30T17:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z"></span>Perpanjangan waktu diskusi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=10" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Perpanjangan waktu diskusi"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Komentar terbaru: <a href="#c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-06T04:52:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z">4 tahun yang lalu</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 komentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>5 orang dalam diskusi</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z-Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi"></span>Mengingat masih banyak hal yang perlu didiskusikan pada proposal ini sebelum masuk tahap pemungutan suara, saya mengusulkan agar proses diskusi diperpanjang 14 hari sampai 21 Juli 2020 23:59 UTC. Meminta pandangan yang telah berkomentar: <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin">Bennylin</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RXerself" title="Pengguna:RXerself">RXerself</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Danu_Widjajanto" title="Pengguna:Danu Widjajanto">Danu Widjajanto</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pengguna:Dede2008">Dede2008</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RaymondSutanto" title="Pengguna:RaymondSutanto">RaymondSutanto</a>. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z-Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5 Juli 2020 12.07 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z-Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z-Perpanjangan_waktu_diskusi"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-07-05T13:34:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Danu_Widjajanto" title="Pengguna:Danu Widjajanto">Danu Widjajanto</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Danu_Widjajanto" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Danu Widjajanto">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-07-05T13:34:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5 Juli 2020 13.34 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-07-05T13:34:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b>, agar kita mendapat lebih banyak input feedback dari pengguna lain. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pengguna:Dede2008">Dede2008</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Dede2008">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Dede2008-2020-07-05T14:15:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5 Juli 2020 14.15 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dede2008-2020-07-05T14:15:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-07-05T14:20:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5 Juli 2020 14.20 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-06T04:52:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> Mungkin perlu diletakkan di ASN? <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RaymondSutanto" title="Pengguna:RaymondSutanto">RaymondSutanto</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:RaymondSutanto" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:RaymondSutanto">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-06T04:52:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 Juli 2020 04.52 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-06T04:52:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-06T04:52:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-05T12:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Komisi_Ombudsman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Komisi_Ombudsman-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Komisi_Ombudsman-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z"></span>Komisi Ombudsman<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Komisi_Ombudsman-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=11" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Komisi Ombudsman"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Komentar terbaru: <a href="#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-10T12:58:00.000Z-Dede2008-2020-07-10T08:04:00.000Z">4 tahun yang lalu</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 komentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 orang dalam diskusi</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z-Komisi_Ombudsman"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r18844875">.mw-parser-output .hatnote{font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output div.hatnote{padding-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .hatnote i{font-style:normal}.mw-parser-output .hatnote+link+.hatnote{margin-top:-0.5em}</style><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">Halaman utama: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Komisi_Ombudsman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Komisi Ombudsman (halaman belum tersedia)">Wikipedia:Komisi Ombudsman</a></div> <p>Halo. Menyangkut diskusi di bagian penanganan dan prosedur pelanggaran keamanan, saya mengusulkan agar seluruh ketentuan menyangkut "pengurus" diganti menjadi "Komisi Ombudsman", yang strukturnya dapat dilihat di halaman terkait. Jika dipersetujui, maka ketentuan penanganan dan prosedur penanganan akan saya rombak sesuai dengan proposal Komisi Ombudsman, yang akan diajukan sebagai proposal kebijakan terpisah. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z-Komisi_Ombudsman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2020 09.17 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z-Komisi_Ombudsman"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z-Komisi_Ombudsman"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Medelam-2020-07-09T11:07:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z"></span>Halo Mas. Pada dasarnya saya setuju bahwa tindakan resmi (baca: setelah hasil penyidikan/penyelidikan) diambil oleh tim Ombudsman ini, mungkin apa yang berhak dilakukan oleh pengurus adalah melakukan pemblokiran cepat terhadap terlapor jika memang dilakukan di Wikipedia, terlepas nanti terbukti atau tidak pokok perkaranya. Salam. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Medelam" title="Pengguna:Medelam">Medelam</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Medelam" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Medelam">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Medelam-2020-07-09T11:07:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2020 11.07 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Medelam-2020-07-09T11:07:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Medelam-2020-07-09T11:07:00.000Z-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T09:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T11:31:00.000Z-Medelam-2020-07-09T11:07:00.000Z"></span>Sebagian besar poin mengenai penanganan dan prosedurnya sudah dipindahkan ke <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Komisi_Ombudsman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Komisi Ombudsman (halaman belum tersedia)">proposal Ombudsman</a>. Silakan didiskusikan di sana. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T11:31:00.000Z-Medelam-2020-07-09T11:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2020 11.31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T11:31:00.000Z-Medelam-2020-07-09T11:07:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-09T11:31:00.000Z-Medelam-2020-07-09T11:07:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dede2008-2020-07-10T08:04:00.000Z-Komisi_Ombudsman"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Symbol_thumbs_up.svg/16px-Symbol_thumbs_up.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Symbol_thumbs_up.svg/24px-Symbol_thumbs_up.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Symbol_thumbs_up.svg/32px-Symbol_thumbs_up.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="765" data-file-height="990"/></span></span> <a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#442244;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">runding</a>｣</small></sup> 9 Juli 2020 19.43 (WIB)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Komisi Ombudman itu seperti ArbCom atau gimana? <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pengguna:Dede2008">Dede2008</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Dede2008">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Dede2008-2020-07-10T08:04:00.000Z-Komisi_Ombudsman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10 Juli 2020 08.04 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dede2008-2020-07-10T08:04:00.000Z-Komisi_Ombudsman"><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dede2008-2020-07-10T08:04:00.000Z-Komisi_Ombudsman"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pengguna:Dede2008"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-10T12:58:00.000Z-Dede2008-2020-07-10T08:04:00.000Z"></span>Dede2008</a>: Secara umum, proposal Ombudsman di WPID lebih terbatas kewenangannya dibanding ArbCom. Kalau melihat kewenangan <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy#Scope_and_responsibilities" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy">ArbCom WPEN</a>, maka kewenangan Ombudsman WPID hanya akan meliputi penindakan terhadap pelanggaran keamanan dan atas penyalahgunaan peralatan oleh pengurus, tidak sampai menyelesaikan sengketa suntingan yang berbelit-belit atau mengangkat pengawas dan pemeriksa. Saya pikir kebijakan mengenai pengawas dan pemeriksa di WPID sudah cukup bagus tanpa harus diawasi lagi oleh sebuah ArbCom, dan sengketa suntingan di sini masih belum terlalu mengganggu seperti di WPEN. Lebih masuk akal memprioritaskan sebuah Ombudsman yang bertugas menjaga keamanan dan mencegah penyalahgunaan peralatan pengurus. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-10T12:58:00.000Z-Dede2008-2020-07-10T08:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10 Juli 2020 12.58 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-10T12:58:00.000Z-Dede2008-2020-07-10T08:04:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-07-10T12:58:00.000Z-Dede2008-2020-07-10T08:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pemungutan_suara" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pemungutan_suara-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pemungutan_suara-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z"></span>Pemungutan suara<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pemungutan_suara-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=12" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Pemungutan suara"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Komentar terbaru: <a href="#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-08-06T01:06:00.000Z-Keputusan">4 tahun yang lalu</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>26 komentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>26 orang dalam diskusi</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p>Sesuai prosedur, pemungutan suara dilangsungkan selama 2 minggu (14 hari), yang berarti pemungutan suara akan ditutup pada <b>5 Agustus 2020 pukul 23:59 UTC (6 Agustus 2020, 06.59 WIB, UTC+7)</b>. </p> <ul><li>Agar usulan dapat disetujui, pemungutan suara harus diikuti oleh minimal 10 pengguna terdaftar. Usulan juga harus memperoleh dukungan suara minimal 2/3 dari jumlah pengguna yang telah memberikan suaranya. Suara abstain dihitung untuk memenuhi kuorum, tetapi tidak ikut dihitung dalam pengambilan keputusan.</li> <li>Jumlah suara "setuju" oleh pengguna pengurus yang dibutuhkan adalah minimal 2/3 dari jumlah semua suara pengguna pengurus.</li> <li>Pengguna yang dapat memberikan suaranya adalah seorang Pengguna terdaftar.</li> <li>Seorang pengguna hanya dapat memberikan 1 suara (setuju atau tidak setuju atau abstain).</li> <li>Penggunaan akun siluman atau alternatif untuk memberikan suara tambahan tidak diperbolehkan.</li></ul> <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#E6F2FF; padding:5px 10px; border:1px solid #AAA;"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Crystal_Clear_action_lock.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Crystal_Clear_action_lock.png/20px-Crystal_Clear_action_lock.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Crystal_Clear_action_lock.png/30px-Crystal_Clear_action_lock.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Crystal_Clear_action_lock.png/40px-Crystal_Clear_action_lock.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <b>Diskusi berikut telah ditutup. Terima kasih atas partisipasi Anda. Mohon untuk tidak menyunting lagi halaman ini.</b> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Setuju" data-mw-thread-id="h-Setuju-Pemungutan_suara-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Setuju-Pemungutan_suara-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z"></span>Setuju<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Setuju-Pemungutan_suara-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=13" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Setuju"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Meursault2004-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Meursault2004" title="Pengguna:Meursault2004">Meursault2004</a><sup><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Meursault2004" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Meursault2004">ngobrol</a></sup> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Meursault2004-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 Juli 2020 08.02 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meursault2004-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meursault2004-2020-07-21T08:02:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Symphonium264-2020-07-21T08:03:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> — <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Symphonium264" title="Pengguna:Symphonium264"><b>808</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Symphonium264#top" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Symphonium264">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Symphonium264-2020-07-21T08:03:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 Juli 2020 08.03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Symphonium264-2020-07-21T08:03:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Symphonium264-2020-07-21T08:03:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-07-21T08:25:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b>--<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Danu_Widjajanto" title="Pengguna:Danu Widjajanto">Danu Widjajanto</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Danu_Widjajanto" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Danu Widjajanto">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-07-21T08:25:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 Juli 2020 08.25 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-07-21T08:25:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danu_Widjajanto-2020-07-21T08:25:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bonaditya-2020-07-21T13:10:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> — <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bonaditya" title="Pengguna:Bonaditya"><b>Bonaditya</b></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bonaditya" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bonaditya"><font color="red">bicara</font></a>)</sup> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Bonaditya-2020-07-21T13:10:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 Juli 2020 13.10 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bonaditya-2020-07-21T13:10:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bonaditya-2020-07-21T13:10:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-N219-2020-07-24T14:23:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> — <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pengguna:N219&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pengguna:N219 (halaman belum tersedia)"><font color="#099"><i>のこ</i></font></a><a href="/wiki/Istimewa:Kontribusi_pengguna/N219" title="Istimewa:Kontribusi pengguna/N219"><font color="#3C6"><i>こり </i></font> </a><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:N219" class="mw-redirect" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:N219"><font style="text-decoration:blink;"><i>♫</i></font></a> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-N219-2020-07-24T14:23:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 Juli 2020 14.23 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-N219-2020-07-24T14:23:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-N219-2020-07-24T14:23:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kenrick95-2020-07-21T14:32:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <b>·· <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Kenrick95" title="Pengguna:Kenrick95">Kℇℵ</a><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Kenrick95" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Kenrick95">℟ℑℭK</a></b> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Kenrick95-2020-07-21T14:32:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 Juli 2020 14.32 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kenrick95-2020-07-21T14:32:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kenrick95-2020-07-21T14:32:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnstad_Di_Maria-2020-07-21T14:46:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Johnstad_Di_Maria" title="Pengguna:Johnstad Di Maria"><font style="color:#4682B4;"><b>Johnstad</b></font></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Johnstad_Di_Maria" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Johnstad Di Maria"><font style="color:#4682B4;"><b>Почта</b></font></a></sup> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Johnstad_Di_Maria-2020-07-21T14:46:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 Juli 2020 14.46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnstad_Di_Maria-2020-07-21T14:46:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnstad_Di_Maria-2020-07-21T14:46:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-21T17:02:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RaymondSutanto" title="Pengguna:RaymondSutanto">RaymondSutanto</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:RaymondSutanto" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:RaymondSutanto">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-21T17:02:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 Juli 2020 17.02 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-21T17:02:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RaymondSutanto-2020-07-21T17:02:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hidayatsrf-2020-07-22T02:07:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hidayatsrf" title="Pengguna:Hidayatsrf">Hidayatsrf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Hidayatsrf" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Hidayatsrf">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Hidayatsrf-2020-07-22T02:07:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22 Juli 2020 02.07 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hidayatsrf-2020-07-22T02:07:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hidayatsrf-2020-07-22T02:07:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Medelam-2020-07-22T03:13:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Medelam" title="Pengguna:Medelam">Medelam</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Medelam" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Medelam">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Medelam-2020-07-22T03:13:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22 Juli 2020 03.13 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Medelam-2020-07-22T03:13:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Medelam-2020-07-22T03:13:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masjawad99-2020-07-22T14:23:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Masjawad99" class="mw-redirect" title="Pengguna:Masjawad99"><span title="lihat halaman pengguna"><b><span style="color:#0000FF">Masjawad99</span></b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Masjawad99" class="mw-redirect" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Masjawad99"><span title="ngobrol">💬</span></a></sup> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Masjawad99-2020-07-22T14:23:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22 Juli 2020 14.23 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masjawad99-2020-07-22T14:23:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masjawad99-2020-07-22T14:23:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wagino_20100516-2020-07-23T04:28:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #00cc00"><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/18px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/27px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/36px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/18px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/27px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/36px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span></span> <b>Dua-tujuh!</b> -- <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Wagino_20100516" title="Pengguna:Wagino 20100516">Wagino 20100516</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Wagino_20100516" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Wagino 20100516">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Wagino_20100516-2020-07-23T04:28:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23 Juli 2020 04.28 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wagino_20100516-2020-07-23T04:28:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wagino_20100516-2020-07-23T04:28:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dede2008-2020-07-23T10:19:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> agar dapat mengantisipasi kejadian serupa di masa mendatang. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pengguna:Dede2008">Dede2008</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Dede2008">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Dede2008-2020-07-23T10:19:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23 Juli 2020 10.19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dede2008-2020-07-23T10:19:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dede2008-2020-07-23T10:19:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RianHS-2020-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> — <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RianHS" title="Pengguna:RianHS">RianHS</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:RianHS" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:RianHS">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-RianHS-2020-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23 Juli 2020 13.01 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RianHS-2020-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RianHS-2020-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adhiwangsa-2020-07-24T03:29:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> — <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Adhiwangsa" title="Pengguna:Adhiwangsa">Adhiwangsa</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Adhiwangsa" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Adhiwangsa">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Adhiwangsa-2020-07-24T03:29:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 Juli 2020 03.29 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adhiwangsa-2020-07-24T03:29:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adhiwangsa-2020-07-24T03:29:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dimas_Laksani-2020-07-24T07:19:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <span style="background-color:#FF69B4;border-radius:8px;padding:0px 2px;"><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Dimas_Laksani" title="Pengguna:Dimas Laksani"><span style="color:#000000;font-weight:medium;font-family:Georgia;"> ✿Dimas Laksani✿ </span></a></span><a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Dimas_Laksani" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Dimas Laksani"><span style="color:#000000;font-weight:bold;">☏</span></a> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Dimas_Laksani-2020-07-24T07:19:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 Juli 2020 07.19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dimas_Laksani-2020-07-24T07:19:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dimas_Laksani-2020-07-24T07:19:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pinerineks-2020-07-24T17:59:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Pinerineks" title="Pengguna:Pinerineks">ꦤꦫꦲꦏ꧀ꦱꦫ꧉</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Pinerineks" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Pinerineks">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Pinerineks-2020-07-24T17:59:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 Juli 2020 17.59 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pinerineks-2020-07-24T17:59:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pinerineks-2020-07-24T17:59:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blue_Sonic-2020-07-25T09:36:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Blue_Sonic" class="mw-redirect" title="Pengguna:Blue Sonic">Blue Sonic</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Blue_Sonic" class="mw-redirect" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Blue Sonic">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Blue_Sonic-2020-07-25T09:36:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 Juli 2020 09.36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blue_Sonic-2020-07-25T09:36:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blue_Sonic-2020-07-25T09:36:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Silencemen21-2020-07-25T13:55:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pengguna:Ronniecoln_Loudtiago/tt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pengguna:Ronniecoln Loudtiago/tt (halaman belum tersedia)">Pengguna:Ronniecoln Loudtiago/tt</a> <a href="/wiki/Bantuan:Tanda_tangan" title="Bantuan:Tanda tangan">25 Juli 2020 pukul 19.49 WIB</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <b><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Silencemen21" title="Pengguna:Silencemen21">The Silencer</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Silencemen21" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Silencemen21">Talk page 💬</a>)</b> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Silencemen21-2020-07-25T13:55:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 Juli 2020 13.55 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Silencemen21-2020-07-25T13:55:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Silencemen21-2020-07-25T13:55:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hanamanteo-2020-07-29T10:10:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <font color="blue"><a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hanamanteo" title="Pengguna:Hanamanteo">Hanamanteo</a></font> <a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Hanamanteo" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Hanamanteo"><font color="green"><sup>Halaman pembicaraan saya</sup></font></a> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Hanamanteo-2020-07-29T10:10:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 Juli 2020 10.10 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hanamanteo-2020-07-29T10:10:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hanamanteo-2020-07-29T10:10:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NFarras-2020-07-29T10:25:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> — <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:NFarras" title="Pengguna:NFarras">Naufal Farras</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:NFarras" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:NFarras">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-NFarras-2020-07-29T10:25:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29 Juli 2020 10.25 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NFarras-2020-07-29T10:25:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NFarras-2020-07-29T10:25:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Veracious-2020-07-30T16:46:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Veracious" title="Pengguna:Veracious">flixwito</a> <a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Veracious" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Veracious">^(•‿•)^</a> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Veracious-2020-07-30T16:46:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30 Juli 2020 16.46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Veracious-2020-07-30T16:46:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Veracious-2020-07-30T16:46:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ksuc-2020-08-01T09:09:00.000Z-Setuju"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_support_vote.svg" title="Setuju"><img alt="Setuju" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Setuju</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Ksuc" class="mw-redirect" title="Pengguna:Ksuc"><small>ksuc</small></a> <a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Ksuc" class="mw-redirect" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Ksuc"><small>(b)</small></a> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Ksuc-2020-08-01T09:09:00.000Z-Setuju" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1 Agustus 2020 09.09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ksuc-2020-08-01T09:09:00.000Z-Setuju"><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ksuc-2020-08-01T09:09:00.000Z-Setuju"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Tidak_setuju" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tidak_setuju-Pemungutan_suara"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tidak_setuju-Pemungutan_suara"></span>Tidak setuju<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tidak_setuju-Pemungutan_suara"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=14" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Tidak setuju"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Abstain" data-mw-thread-id="h-Abstain-Pemungutan_suara-2020-07-30T00:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Abstain-Pemungutan_suara-2020-07-30T00:33:00.000Z"></span>Abstain<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Abstain-Pemungutan_suara-2020-07-30T00:33:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=15" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Abstain"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaEr48-2020-07-30T00:33:00.000Z-Abstain"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_neutral_vote.svg" title="Netral"><img alt="Netral" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Netral</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:HaEr48">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-HaEr48-2020-07-30T00:33:00.000Z-Abstain" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30 Juli 2020 00.33 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaEr48-2020-07-30T00:33:00.000Z-Abstain"><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaEr48-2020-07-30T00:33:00.000Z-Abstain"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JumadilM-2020-07-31T17:12:00.000Z-Abstain"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Berkas:Symbol_neutral_vote.svg" title="Netral"><img alt="Netral" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Netral</b> <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:JumadilM" title="Pengguna:JumadilM">JumadilM</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:JumadilM" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:JumadilM">bicara</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-JumadilM-2020-07-31T17:12:00.000Z-Abstain" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">31 Juli 2020 17.12 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JumadilM-2020-07-31T17:12:00.000Z-Abstain"><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Balas</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JumadilM-2020-07-31T17:12:00.000Z-Abstain"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Hasil" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hasil-Pemungutan_suara"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hasil-Pemungutan_suara"></span>Hasil<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hasil-Pemungutan_suara"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=16" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Hasil"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li>Diikuti oleh minimal 10 pengguna terdaftar: 26 pengguna <span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Selesai</b></span></li> <li>Didukung 2/3 pemberi suara: 24/24 <span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Selesai</b></span></li> <li>Disetujui 2/3 pengurus yang memberi suara: 12/12 <span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Selesai</b></span></li></ul> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"> <tbody><tr> <th rowspan="2">Uraian </th> <th colspan="3">Suara Setuju dan Tidak Setuju </th> <th rowspan="2" width="135"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Symbol_abstain_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_abstain_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Symbol_abstain_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_abstain_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Symbol_abstain_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_abstain_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Abstain</b> </th> <th rowspan="2" width="135">Jumlah semua suara </th></tr> <tr> <th width="135"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Setuju</b></th> <th width="135"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Tidak setuju</b></th> <th width="135">Jumlah </th></tr> <tr valign="top"> <th width="135">Jumlah suara </th> <td><b>24</b> (100%) </td> <td>0 </td> <td><b>24</b> (100%) </td> <td><b>2</b> </td> <td><b>26</b> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Keputusan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Keputusan-Pemungutan_suara-2020-08-06T01:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Keputusan-Pemungutan_suara-2020-08-06T01:06:00.000Z"></span>Keputusan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Keputusan-Pemungutan_suara-2020-08-06T01:06:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=17" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Keputusan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-08-06T01:06:00.000Z-Keputusan"></span>Kebijakan ini disahkan berlaku mulai tanggal ditetapkan. <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">dwf²</a> (<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:David Wadie Fisher-Freberg">runding</a>) <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-08-06T01:06:00.000Z-Keputusan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 Agustus 2020 01.06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-2020-08-06T01:06:00.000Z-Keputusan"><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Balas","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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pelaporan"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Komentar terbaru: <a href="#c-Symphonium264-2020-09-23T14:16:00.000Z-Alamat_pelaporan">4 tahun yang lalu</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 komentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 orang dalam diskusi</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Symphonium264-2020-09-23T14:16:00.000Z-Alamat_pelaporan"></span>Saya tambahkan paragraf berikut: </p><p><br/> </p> <table class="cquote pullquote" role="presentation" style="margin:auto; border-collapse: collapse; border: none; width: auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: top; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: left; padding: 10px 10px;">“ </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; border: none; padding: 4px 10px;">Apabila Anda merasa sedang menjadi korban pelecehan, fitnah, <i>doxing</i>, pengancaman, penyerangan karena suntingan Anda di Wikipedia, maka pihak Wikipedia Indonesia menyarankan Anda untuk menghubungi pengurus WBI, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Komisi_Ombudsman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Komisi Ombudsman (halaman belum tersedia)">Komisi Ombudsman</a> (per 2020 sedang dibentuk), atau pihak Wikimedia Indonesia, disertai bukti-bukti yang kuat. Kami akan berusaha semampu kami untuk membantu Anda. <dl><dd><code>info-id<span typeof="mw:File"><span title="﹫"><img alt="﹫" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/15px-At_sign.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/23px-At_sign.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/30px-At_sign.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="145" data-file-height="145"/></span></span>wikimedia.org</code></dd></dl> </td> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: bottom; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: right; padding: 10px 10px;">” </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p><a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/salam" class="extiw" title="wikt:salam">ꦱꦭꦩ꧀</a> ‑<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#774477;letter-spacing:0.1em;">Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ</span></a> <sup><small>｢<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin">komunikasi</a>｣</small></sup> 23 September 2020 21.14 (WIB) </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Saran saya, mungkin bisa ditambahkan sebelum surel "Anda juga dapat mengirimkan laporan pengaduan ke surel berikut," atau semacamnya agar tidak berkesan <i>njujug</i> – <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Symphonium264" title="Pengguna:Symphonium264"><b>S264</b></a> <sup>[<a href="/wiki/Pembicaraan_Pengguna:Symphonium264#top" title="Pembicaraan Pengguna:Symphonium264"><i>badhé ngobrol</i>?</a>]</sup> <a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan#c-Symphonium264-2020-09-23T14:16:00.000Z-Alamat_pelaporan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23 September 2020 14.16 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Amandemen_dan_tambahan_pada_kebijakan_ini_pada_WP:PAKET2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-Amandemen_dan_tambahan_pada_kebijakan_ini_pada_WP:PAKET2023-20230915170000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Amandemen_dan_tambahan_pada_kebijakan_ini_pada_WP:PAKET2023-20230915170000"></span>Amandemen dan tambahan pada kebijakan ini pada <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAKET2023" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAKET2023">WP:PAKET2023</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Amandemen_dan_tambahan_pada_kebijakan_ini_pada_WP:PAKET2023-20230915170000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pembicaraan_Wikipedia:Kebijakan_keamanan_penyuntingan&action=edit&section=19" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Amandemen dan tambahan pada kebijakan ini pada WP:PAKET2023"><span>sunting sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Komentar terbaru: <a href="#c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-20230915170000-Amandemen_dan_tambahan_pada_kebijakan_ini_pada_WP:PAKET2023">1 tahun yang lalu</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 komentar</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 orang dalam diskusi</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Wadie_Fisher-Freberg-20230915170000-Amandemen_dan_tambahan_pada_kebijakan_ini_pada_WP:PAKET2023"></span>mengeping seluruh pengguna yang pernah berkontribusi pada halaman pembicaraan ini: <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pengguna:HaEr48" title="Pengguna:HaEr48">HaEr48</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Bennylin" title="Pengguna:Bennylin">Bennylin</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Dede2008" title="Pengguna:Dede2008">Dede2008</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Danu_Widjajanto" title="Pengguna:Danu Widjajanto">Danu Widjajanto</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Symphonium264" title="Pengguna:Symphonium264">Symphonium264</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RaymondSutanto" title="Pengguna:RaymondSutanto">RaymondSutanto</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RXerself" title="Pengguna:RXerself">RXerself</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Medelam" title="Pengguna:Medelam">Medelam</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Johnstad_Di_Maria" title="Pengguna:Johnstad Di Maria">Johnstad Di Maria</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Silencemen21" title="Pengguna:Silencemen21">Silencemen21</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Wagino_20100516" title="Pengguna:Wagino 20100516">Wagino 20100516</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Rimapavadria" title="Pengguna:Rimapavadria">Rimapavadria</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:JumadilM" title="Pengguna:JumadilM">JumadilM</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Veracious" title="Pengguna:Veracious">Veracious</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:NFarras" title="Pengguna:NFarras">NFarras</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hanamanteo" title="Pengguna:Hanamanteo">Hanamanteo</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pengguna:Ronniecoln_Loudtiago&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pengguna:Ronniecoln Loudtiago (halaman belum tersedia)">Ronniecoln Loudtiago</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Blue_Sonic" class="mw-redirect" title="Pengguna:Blue Sonic">Blue Sonic</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Pinerineks" title="Pengguna:Pinerineks">Pinerineks</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:%EB%AF%B8%EC%86%94%ED%8C%8C" title="Pengguna:미솔파">미솔파</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Dimas_Laksani" title="Pengguna:Dimas Laksani">Dimas Laksani</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Adhiwangsa" title="Pengguna:Adhiwangsa">Adhiwangsa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:RianHS" title="Pengguna:RianHS">RianHS</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Swarabakti" title="Pengguna:Swarabakti">Swarabakti</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Hidayatsrf" title="Pengguna:Hidayatsrf">Hidayatsrf</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Kenrick95" title="Pengguna:Kenrick95">Kenrick95</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Nohirara" title="Pengguna:Nohirara">Nohirara</a>, dan <a href="/wiki/Pengguna:Meursault2004" title="Pengguna:Meursault2004">Meursault2004</a>:</span></dd></dl> <p>Seiring dengan perkembangan akhir-akhir ini, beberapa bagian pada kebijakan ini diusulkan untuk diamandemen dan dilengkapi melalui <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Paket_revisi_kebijakan_Wikipedia_bahasa_Indonesia_2023" title="Wikipedia:Paket revisi kebijakan Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia 2023">paket revisi kebijakan Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia 2023</a>. 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