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I'm thinking about using AWB to add joy to my life, but I'm a Mac user and before I follow the guidance on how to register and download a compatible version, I'd like to know what you think about a suitable task? {{tl|main}} should not be used at a lead section, it is only appropriate for sections in the body of an article. An indiscriminate bot request for all articles may have adverse consequences, but semi-automation in a limited set of articles I think is feasible. What is required is for every article containing "United States presidential election in" in the title (e.g. [[1992 United States presidential election in California]]), delete any code <code><nowiki>{{main|...}}</nowiki></code> that occurs before the lead. Is that a task AWB could handle? [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 07:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Shhhnotsoloud}} Assuming that no one will object to the change, that is a perfect task for AWB. You can make the list simply from a wiki search on intitle: (though more sophisticated options are available) and it's a fairly simple [[regex]] substitution. I use AWB on [[Ubuntu]], which is more Mac-like than Windows. It's usable but has a few rough edges, probably due to limitations in [[Wine (software)|Wine]] rather than AWB. [[WP:JWB|JWB]] is an alternative worth considering and could also handle this task. If you're looking for similar work, [[WP:AWB/TA]] usually has jobs waiting. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 10:53, 26 May 2021 (UTC) ::That's great, thank you. I'll go ahead and register. I'm not looking for work just yet haha! [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 16:13, 26 May 2021 (UTC) == Re: Remove URL redundant with identifier in autolinked citation == If you're referring to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Life&type=revision&diff=1025185836&oldid=1022966506 this edit], I agree with you and that's indeed the point of the edit: instead of going to an URL which may or may not work, we now link [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693349 PMC] which is always reliable. [[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 12:32, 26 May 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Nemo bis}} Yes, I suppose my beef is with the [[Digital object identifier#Resolution|DOI resolution]] system. It is unfortunate that it leads us to a paywall when content is freely available elsewhere, but that's hardly the fault of those who insert the DOIs. We should be careful to preserve URLs when they provide a more accessible alternative to the DOI, though I agree that this was not the case for your edit. I'm also concerned about losing information for the future, when a DOI which works today might be diverted to greedy-middleman.com/insert-credit-card and a plain URL alongside would have continued to serve our readers well. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:31, 26 May 2021 (UTC) ::We ''could'' use oadoi.org instead of doi.org. The Italian Wikipedia does. [[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 16:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC) :::That sounds like a big improvement. We're treating the intermediary for these links like a sister project, and oadoi's values seem to align much more closely with Wikipedia's. I found the free link I mentioned on your talk page via their Unpaywall extension. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 18:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC) ::::I agree. It's a big step though, so I think we're more likely to get there gradually. One step is to start using the links Unpaywall suggests us: [[Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Autolinking]] would help because OAbot can add hdl automatically. [[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 18:55, 27 May 2021 (UTC) == Hello! == Hi there, Certes! Thank you so much for thanking me in that edit on [[List of numbers]]! I'm your friend now. [[User:Pedro Lucas Silva|Pedro Lucas Silva]] ([[User talk:Pedro Lucas Silva|talk]]) 16:39, 12 June 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Pedro Lucas Silva}} You're very welcome. [[WP:WikiGnome|Wikignoming]] is an undervalued activity that helps our readers get the best out of Wikipedia's content. Adding free-to-read citation links unlocks important resources for readers who might otherwise hit a paywall and give up. Thanks again for your contributions. It's a friendly community here, so if you want any help, just leave a message on a relevant [[WP:talk page|talk page]] and a subject expert should be along soon. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 17:41, 12 June 2021 (UTC) 😄 [[User:Pedro Lucas Silva|Pedro Lucas Silva]] ([[User talk:Pedro Lucas Silva|talk]]) 19:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC) == Vandalism? == Hi. I am sorry to bother you, and I am absolutely not up for a fight over this, but I wondered about your vandalism warning on [[User talk:89.143.161.156]]. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree that the edits are wrong and a royal pain to revert, but my guess was that this was some kind of good-faith attempt to do something they ''thought'' was useful or necessary, which seems to invoke {{tq|Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism}} at the [[WP:VD|link]] from the template. What do you think? Cheers [[User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|DBaK]] ([[User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|talk]]) 11:32, 17 June 2021 (UTC) :{{re|DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered}} On reflection, I think you're right and I failed to [[WP:AGF|AGF]] here. I've toned down the warning, hopefully before the IP notices it. Thanks for pointing out my mistake. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:47, 17 June 2021 (UTC) ::Thank you! That is exceedingly decent of you. Much appreciated. With all good wishes [[User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|DBaK]] ([[User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|talk]]) 14:49, 17 June 2021 (UTC) == Disambiguation links == {{hatnote|Previous discussion: [[User talk:RVE865Wiki]]}} This is because I hate seeing "(disambiguation)" placed into MY edits. Getting blocked from editing makes me feel depressed as a Wikipedian. If you send ME a message like THAT, It gets me be like warned/having account deleted in Roblox to me. Don't SEND me a message like that. Thank you.<span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RVE865Wiki|RVE865Wiki]] ([[User talk:RVE865Wiki#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RVE865Wiki|contribs]]) 19:47, 19 June 2021 (UTC)</span> :{{re|RVE865Wiki}} Unfortunately, it is sometimes necessary to insert "(disambiguation)", even into edits you have made. The reasons are explained in [[WP:INTDAB]]. A block might be depressing, but it's easy to avoid by following the advice that several editors have given you. If you disagree with some of our policies or guidelines, you could seek a consensus to change them, but it may be better to divert your efforts to other areas of Wikipedia where our aims are more closely aligned with yours. I hope that helps you to enjoy continuing to edit constructively, and that no one has reason to block you. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 23:40, 19 June 2021 (UTC) == A note regarding orphaned and underlinked content == [[File:EM your name here (2512280085).jpg|thumb|600px|center|<big>When Wikipedia content is orphaned or underlinked, it is like being on a hamster wheel. The work is performed, but then nobody will ever see it, negating the purpose of performing the work in the first place, deforming it into pointless [[busy work]].</big><br><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 19:47, 23 June 2021 (UTC)]] == A barnstar for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Vitruvian Barnstar Hires.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Technical Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For your excellent reply at [[WP:VPT]] with the Quarry query. Thanks! '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Fire Walk with Me]]</sup> 08:32, 4 July 2021 (UTC) |} == Fish == {{trout|1=[[Special:Diff/1032960050|whyyyy?]] <span style="display:inline-block;text-align:center;vertical-align:bottom;line-height:0.5em;">~~<nowiki/>~~<br/><span style="font-size:0.7em;">[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|talk]])</span></span> 20:41, 10 July 2021 (UTC)}} :{{re|1234qwer1234qwer4}} Wrong sort of fish! Saran (film) and Saran (movie) should both redirect to a [[common dab]] containing [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0930881/ Saran (1963 film)] and [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245413/ Saran (1991 film)]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 21:35, 10 July 2021 (UTC) ::... <span style="display:inline-block;text-align:center;vertical-align:bottom;line-height:0.5em;">~~<nowiki/>~~<br/><span style="font-size:0.7em;">[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|talk]])</span></span> 21:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC) ==Links in bolded titles== Prompted by [[WP:ANI#Long term pattern of Wikilink vandalism from Jordanian IP's]]. I doubt that new links are common enough to justify a filter. Irritants like the subject of that discussion are rare (and such editors often add DABlinks as well, and get caught that way). More common are edits by people who don't know about [[MOS:BOLDAVOID]] - and they need manual intervention, either by moving the link along to the next occurrence or by tinkering with the lead. For a one-off report, how about this pseudocode: # Ignore if DAB # Ignore between {{ }} # Look for first triple-apostrophe # If [[ found, add to log # If second triple-apostrophe found, stop # If no second triple-apostrophe found, log for a different reason (whole article in boldface) It might take a second or two to test all 6M articles, but filtering by recent creations or most-recent edits might yield something manageable. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 07:18, 11 July 2021 (UTC) :{{smalldiv|1="whole article in boldface" – FYI, the bolding will stop with a new paragraph. <span style="display:inline-block;text-align:center;vertical-align:bottom;line-height:0.5em;">~~<nowiki/>~~<br/><span style="font-size:0.7em;">[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|talk]])</span></span> 07:32, 11 July 2021 (UTC)}} :Looks good but there really are 6M to check, and Cirrus search, PetScan, Quarry, etc. can't help, so it would have to be automated. (I keep meaning to get into bot writing, and I don't think a read-only bot which just lists offenders would need approval.) I would also flag <nowiki>[[ before (or even without) '''</nowiki>, to catch leads beginning {{!xt|[[A]] '''foo''' is a ...}}. Linking "A" there is a common test edit which I've fixed many times. :I've worked through links to [[The]]. Eleven were wrong but there's no pattern: a mix of possible misclicks in VE, careless links to [&#91;The|Foo]] and one vandal but no repeat offenders. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC) ::Use the AWB database scanner on the latest mainspace-only database dump. <span style="display:inline-block;text-align:center;vertical-align:bottom;line-height:0.5em;">~~<nowiki/>~~<br/><span style="font-size:0.7em;">[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|talk]])</span></span> 17:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC) :::Thanks for the tip. Does this requires downloading a huge dump file to process locally, or is there somewhere (Toolforge?) that allows one to scan a central dump and just transfer the tiny results file? [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 18:59, 11 July 2021 (UTC) ::::My understanding of [[WP:BOTPOL]] is that not only bots which might merrily corrupt the whole encyclopaedia need heavy-duty approval, but also ones which might clog the servers by making an inordinate number of rapid requests. ::::From DOS days, I remember a little [[Terminate and stay resident program|TSR]] loaded from AUTOEXEC.BAT which sat in the printer interrupt, and occasionally replaced "." with ", squire." Proofreading business letters before signature is good practice. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 19:09, 11 July 2021 (UTC) ::::Yes, you would need to download about 18 GB from https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20210701/. <span style="display:inline-block;text-align:center;vertical-align:bottom;line-height:0.5em;">~~<nowiki/>~~<br/><span style="font-size:0.7em;">[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|talk]])</span></span> 20:26, 11 July 2021 (UTC) == Why I meant GOD = 786 = Atom? == Check https://tejascreative.wordpress.com/tag/lalitha-sahasranama-meanings-1000-names-divine-mother/ and search for 'Paramanu' on the page and you will find it is Atom. Kindly help me to unite religions by proving GOD is One and Religions are like diferrent rivers reaching One Ocean/ GOD. Please approve my content based on https://www.quora.com/What-is-786/answer/Vasanth-Kumar-Nagulakonda Also check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalita_Sahasranama GOD bless All. Please feel free to add my content yourself. All I want is people know that GOD is Omnipresent, Omniscient, and Omnipotent. Isn't my original research meant to unite religions good? I meant to stop the wars against religions. Please approve my addition to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/786_(number) <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Vasanthkn|Vasanthkn]] ([[User talk:Vasanthkn#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vasanthkn|contribs]]) 12:02, 17 July 2021 (UTC)</span> :{{re|Vasanthkn}} Thank you for the comments. The content you added does not seem to be related to the topic of [[786 (number)]]. It is also from [[WP:self-published sources|self-published sources]], which Wikipedia tries to avoid. We try to provide a balanced summary of the many views about God, on relevant pages, but an article about a number is not suitable for [[WP:PROMOTION|promoting]] one opinion, however sincerely held. If you still feel that this information is [[WP:verifiable|verifiable]], [[WP:NPOV|neutral]] and relevant to the article, please raise the matter at [[Talk:786 (number)]] so we can seek other opinions and form a consensus. Thanks, [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:15, 17 July 2021 (UTC) :Done! [[Talk:786 (number)]] [[User:Vasanthkn|Vasanthkn]] ([[User talk:Vasanthkn|talk]]) 12:52, 17 July 2021 (UTC) == Quarry request for Bluelink patrol == Hi Certes! I saw your post at [[Wikipedia:Bot requests#Fixing proper name for The New York Times...]] and for some reason my head went in a different direction. I wonder if you would be able to create a Quarry query to find lowercase bluelinks such as [[peanuts]] that should should probably be changed to <nowiki>[[peanut]]s</nowiki> as follows: # The singular link is commonly used in the lowercase (e.g. [[peanut]], the food) # The plural link is commonly used in the uppercase (e.g. [[Peanuts]], the cartoon) # The plural is not a redirect to the singular (but could be a redirect somewhere else, like [[Windows]] redirects to [[Microsoft Windows]] instead of [[window]]) Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 20:40, 24 July 2021 (UTC) :{{re|GoingBatty}} Great idea. Unfortunately, the database available to Quarry normalises link targets to start with a capital, making no distinction between [[peanut]] and [[Peanut]]. Quarry cannot access wikitext, so doing exactly what you asked for would need a different solution. However, I've had a go at [[quarry:query/57082]], with a few unjustified assumptions: :# "Commonly used" means the singular is linked 1000+ times from mainspace. (If the ''plural'' is rare, that just makes links more likely to be wrong.) Lowering this limit is easy and will find more pairs, but let's do the prolific cases first. :# The singular is not a blatant proper noun, e.g. uses {{tl|Infobox settlement}} or is in [[:Category:Surnames]]. :# The singular is not a redirect: we can easily remove this restriction but it might produce a lot more output :The output highlights genuine errors, e.g. [[adobes]] in [[Jatagan Mala]], but produces lots of false positives, mainly due to unidentified proper nouns. Much of the noise is taxa but removing them would throw away Peanut and other good leads. Suggestions for improvement are welcome. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 02:22, 25 July 2021 (UTC) ::Pretty cool - thanks! ::* I changed [[Bunkers]] to redirect to [[Bunker]] (instead of [[Hazard (golf)]], since most of the links referred to military installations). ::* I changed [[Tombs]] to redirect to [[Tomb]] (instead of [[The Tombs]], since only one link referred to that particular facility). ::* I changed [[SEAS]] to redirect to [[Seas (disambiguation)]] (instead of [[List of seas]], since the only link was an acronym). ::* I changed all six lowercase links from [[tubas]] to <nowiki>[[tuba]]s</nowiki>, and added it to my Backlinks ::* I changed all three lowercase links from [[minds]] to <nowiki>[[mind]]s</nowiki>, and added it to my Backlinks ::* I changed two lowercase links from [[heavyweights]] to <nowiki>[[heavyweight]]s</nowiki>, unlinked the third, and added it to my Backlinks ::* I changed seven links from [[knockouts]] to <nowiki>[[knockout]]s</nowiki>, changed the last to [[knockout tournament]], and added it to my Backlinks ::* I changed the only link from [[frauds]] to <nowiki>[[fraud]]s</nowiki>, and added it to my Backlinks ::* I changed both links from [[elks]] to <nowiki>[[elk]]s</nowiki>, and added it to my Backlinks ::* I changed several links from [[stocks]] to <nowiki>[[stock]]s</nowiki>, and unlinked a couple that were referring to inventory. ::* I unlinked a few instances of [[Sterns]] that referred to Sterns Music, and changed others to [[Stern's]]. ::* I changed most links from <nowiki>[[reason]]s</nowiki> to [[reasons]] (which redirects to [[reason (argument)]]). ::* I removed one incorrect link to [[Neptunes]] and removed one incorrect link to [[Vans]]. ::* I changed one link from [[Loves]] to [[Loves (band)]] (Ugh...[[List of Peel sessions]] still has bad links!) ::* I changed a few links from [[Hamlet]] to [[Hamlet (place)]], and removed one incorrect link to [[Hamlets]]. Many links should either be changed to [[Prince Hamlet]] or italicized. ::* I changed one link from [[Compasses]] to <nowiki>[[Compass]]es</nowiki>, and unlinked 1 referring to a magazine - need to look at lowercase [[compasses]] ::* I wonder how many links to [[baseball]]/[[basketball]]/[[volleyball]] should go to [[baseball (ball)]]/[[basketball (ball)]]/[[volleyball (ball)]], and what's an easy way to find them? ::More work on this later - thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 06:16, 25 July 2021 (UTC) :::Well done. I thought I had my eye on hamlet and vans, but clearly missed a couple. I've also change a few redirects like {{-r|airlocks}}. Basketball crossed my mind too. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=linksto%3Abasketball+insource%3A%2Fa+%5C%5B%5C%5Bbasketball%5C%5D%5C%5D%2F+-insource%3A%2Fa+%5C%5B%5C%5Bbasketball%5C%5D%5C%5D+%28game%7Cteam%7Cplayer%7Cclub%7Cevent%7Cstar%7Choop%7Cfan%7Ccourt%7Cshot%7Ctournament%7Cposition%29%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns10=1&ns14=1&ns100=1 Searching] has about a 20% success rate ([[Force]], [[Heat Shield Rock]], [[Orders of magnitude (area)]] and [[Sigma Alpha Mu]] on the first page) but I don't think the solution can be automated. [[Eddie Hickey]] {{xt|was a [[basketball]] and [[American football]] coach}}, and only common sense tells us that he was not a plastic sphere. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:09, 25 July 2021 (UTC) :::I also wonder whether more hatnotes are needed. Are most readers who visit [[Adobes]] seeking the Spanish village (pop. 68), or would a significant number prefer to know about [[adobe]] houses or bricks? [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:38, 25 July 2021 (UTC) ::::Thanks again! I fixed many more articles. The phrases "[[basketball]] court", "[[baseball]] bat/cap", "[[golf]]/[[tennis]] ball" and "diameter/size of a [[basketball]]/[[baseball]]/[[volleyball]]" could be automated, but there weren't many of these. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 22:32, 25 July 2021 (UTC) :::::I think only the last of those needs correction (and there may still be the occasional "size of a baseball field" etc.) However, we could extend the link to [[Basketball court]], à la [[WP:WikiProject Disambiguation/Candidates for disambiguation by extending link]]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 22:56, 26 July 2021 (UTC) ::::More work today: ::::* I changed all five links from [[aisles]] to <nowiki>[[aisle]]s</nowiki>, and added it to my Backlinks ::::* I changed all seven links from [[andesites]] to <nowiki>[[andesite]]s</nowiki>, and added it to my Backlinks ::::* I changed [[Apses]] so it redirects to [[Apse]] (since all 21 links to [[apses]] refer to the plural of [[apse]]). ::::* I changed 1 link from [[Bentleys]] to [[Bentley]]. ::::* I changed 1 link from [[Bloods]] to [[Bloods (song)]]. ::::* I changed all three links from [[cattles]] to [[cattle]], and added it to my Backlinks ::::* I changed one link from [[chalks]] to <nowiki>[[chalk]]s</nowiki>, and unlinked the other, and added it to my Backlinks ::::* Changed 7 links from [[compasses]] to <nowiki>[[compass]]es</nowiki>, and unlinked 1, and added it to my Backlinks ::::* Changed 1 link from [[cricket]] to [[crickets]], 3 links from [[cricket]] to [[cricket (insect)]], 2 links from <nowiki>[[cricket]]s</nowiki> to [[crickets]], 7 links from [[cricket]] ball to [[cricket ball]], 12 links from [[cricket]] bat to [[cricket bat]] ::::* Changed 1 link from <nowiki>[[dancehall]]s</nowiki> to [[dancehall]] ::::* Changed [[Diplomats]] to redirect to [[Diplomat]] (instead of [[Diplomacy]]) ::::* Changed the only link from [[paroles]] to <nowiki>[[parole]]s</nowiki> ::::If you want to change this from 1000+ to 500+, could you tweak the query so it shows the count for the singular and the plural, and exclude any where there are no article links to the plural? Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:56, 26 July 2021 (UTC) :::::Done and run. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:52, 26 July 2021 (UTC) ::::::Today's work: ::::::* Changed several links from <nowiki>[[baseball]]s/[[basketball]]s</nowiki> to [[baseballs]]/[[basketballs]]. ::::::* Changed 1 [[Augusts]] to [[Augustus]] ::::::* Changed 1 [[Bayer]] to [[Bayer filter]] ::::::* Changed 1 [[casting]] to [[casting (fishing)]], 37 to [[casting (performing arts)]], 1 to [[Casting (TV series)]] ::::::* Changed all three links from [[changelings]] to <nowiki>[[changeling]]s</nowiki>, and added it to my Backlinks [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC) ::::::* Removed both incorrect links to [[Dices]]; changed 1 [[Dice]] to [[Dice (TV series)]] and unlinked 2. ::::::* Changed 7 [[dogfights]] to <nowiki>[[dogfight]]s</nowiki>, and the other 1 to [[dog fighting]], and added it to my Backlinks ::::::* Changed 2 [[football]] to [[football (ball)]] and 1 to [[ball (association football)]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 03:21, 27 July 2021 (UTC) ::::::Today's work: ::::::* Changed 13 [[fens]] to [[Fens]]/[[The Fens]], changed 19 to <nowiki>[[fen]]s</nowiki>, unlinked 1 (duplicate link), and added it to my Backlinks [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:47, 28 July 2021 (UTC) ===List of Peel sessions=== The sorely missed presenter allegedly showcased a [[kaleidoscope]] and the entire town of [[Kaisers]]. I come across a lot of articles like that, and sometimes bother with the laborious chore of fixing them. Sadly, I've not found a tool that can list their bad links. [[WP:PetScan|PetScan]] is almost up to the job but can't exclude negative categories without limiting its search to positive ones too. Cirrus search can't handle it unless [[m:Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Search/linksfrom: filter|linksfrom:]] gets implemented. It's so common that it's almost worth writing a custom tool. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 00:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC) :...and a [[King]]! I've reviewed the whole "K" section and made some updates (my 42nd update to this article). [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:17, 27 July 2021 (UTC) ::My go-to link is https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/sessions/ - if they ain't there, I doubt they ever recorded a session. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 23:35, 27 July 2021 (UTC) :::A great resource for the topic, but it doesn't tell me whether the "King" who appeared is the same one described in [[King]] (though I can guess). I was thinking of listing targets wikilinked from [[Article]] that are not in {{cl|Foo}} or its subcategories, but it's more difficult: not all of the guests belong in {{cl|Musicians}} and even that would take forever to trawl thousands of branches such as {{cl|South Korean women classical cellists‎}}. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 23:48, 27 July 2021 (UTC) ::https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXPfCUkQdacxuf9jRFBlM2A isn't RS, but is worth a visit. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 23:35, 27 July 2021 (UTC) == RfC notice == This is a neutral notice sent to all non-bot/non-blocked registered users who edited [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics]] in the past year that there is a new request for comment at {{section link|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics|RfC: Where should so-called voiceless approximants be covered?}}. [[User:Nardog|Nardog]] ([[User talk:Nardog|talk]]) 10:52, 27 July 2021 (UTC) == Angel numbers == Hi, sorry to bother you. Saw you've reverted this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=999&diff=1032489179&oldid=1032487707 IP] for refspam. Looks like they've been doing cross-wiki spamming on [https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ciento_once&diff=137299930&oldid=136778928 ES], [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=555_(numero)&diff=122175747&oldid=121838276 IT], and [https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=111_(nombre)&diff=185025640&oldid=184351152 FR] by adding links to angelclan.org across many projects. Do you know what's the best ways/channels to report this? --[[User:Lovelife11111|Lovelife11111]] ([[User talk:Lovelife11111|talk]]) 20:07, 28 July 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Lovelife11111}} Thanks for helping to keep Wikipedia vandal-free! That IP hasn't done any damage for two weeks ([https://xtools.wmflabs.org/globalcontribs/103.42.248.134 global contributions]) so I hope they may have given up. If they return then you could report them to [[WP:AIV]] (or its equivalent in other languages), mentioning that it is cross-wiki, but that is only for current vandals. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 21:43, 28 July 2021 (UTC) :: {{re|Certes}} That's very helpful, thank you. --[[User:Lovelife11111|Lovelife11111]] ([[User talk:Lovelife11111|talk]]) 22:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC) == Template : Lanchester Valley Railway RDT Route Map == I printed out a copy of this to pass on to a friend who had requested it. However, the resultant printed image is spoilt by having many horizontal blank spaces. Can you possibly put matters right, as in the past, you have updated matters. [[User:Xenophon Philosopher|Xenophon Philosopher]] ([[User talk:Xenophon Philosopher|talk]]) 07:37, 1 August 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Xenophon Philosopher}} My only contribution to the map was to fix a link to a station. Map rendering is a black art which I've never mastered. The creator is still active, or someone at [[WP:WikiProject Trains]] or [[WP:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop]] may be able to help you. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:03, 1 August 2021 (UTC) == Merge request, to an experienced Lua user == Hi Certes: [[Template:Friendly search suggestions]] is listed for merging at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Holding cell#Other]], as per the consensus at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 October 4#Reference search tools talk page templates]]. It has been listed for some time, but nobody has merged it. I had to request its undeletion because it was tagged for speedy deletion and then deleted sans any merge. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz&diff=1037649474&oldid=1037649299 here] for more information. I am requesting your assistance because I would perform the merge myself, but it involves use of [[Template:Invoke]] and Lua, which I am not versed in. I typically refrain from asking specifi users to perform such types of actions, but I don't know who else to ask at this time. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 21:33, 7 August 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Northamerica1000}} Although the templates do invoke modules, I think this task mainly involves template changes rather than Lua coding. Primefac offered to do the merge in the collapsed section of [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Holding cell#Other|Holding cell]]. That sounds like a better idea, as I've never looked inside either template before. {{tl|Talk header}} is (quite rightly) TE protected, so I'd need help changing it anyway. Come back to me if you're really stuck, but I'll be busy off-wiki for the next couple of days. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 23:43, 7 August 2021 (UTC) ::Thanks for the reply. Pinging {{u|Primefac}} here so they're aware of this convo. The template was deleted after the discussion closer added a speedy delete tag, but no merge ever occurred. It has since been undeleted by admin {{u|Liz}} per my request at their talk page ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz&diff=1037652632&oldid=1037650738 diff]). I view the speedy tagging as a highly inappropriate supervote that totally ignores the consensus at the discussion in favor of a unilateral decision. I tried to do the merge, but ran into problems and don't want to mess everything up. I'm just looking forward to the prospect of it getting done. Then, it would be done. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 00:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC) :::Different subject. I created the new Pacific Northwest portal recently. Plenty of high-quality articles out there. I like it. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 14:01, 12 August 2021 (UTC) ::::Well done! I've added a hatnote in [[Pacific Northwest Portal]], which was the first suggestion when I searched for it. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 15:01, 12 August 2021 (UTC) :::::Thanks, that's cool. I missed that one! <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 15:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC) == [[FC Steaua București]] == Don’t see the point in having this and [[Steaua București]] as two separate pages. I summarized the content of FC Steaua Bucuresti and moved it to Steaua Bucuresti, but got removed for vandalism. We need to reach consensus. [[User:8Dodo8|8Dodo8]] ([[User talk:8Dodo8|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/8Dodo8|contribs]]) 11:19, 22 August 2021 (UTC) :{{re|8Dodo8}} Yes, we need to reach consensus. I don't see your other edit as vandalism: whether it should stand is debatable but you are clearly acting in good faith. The nearest thing I can find to consensus is [[Talk:CSA Steaua București (football)#RfC on this article's content]] from 2018. Perhaps it is time to reopen the discussion. I don't have a view in favour of either claimant to the title; I just want the information organised methodically with all the links pointing to the correct articles. I picked this up today because most entries on our [https://dplbot.toolforge.org/templates_with_dab_links.php Templates with disambiguation links] error report are pointing to the new dab. Most of them should link to whichever current club "owns" the history, but that's still unclear. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 11:24, 22 August 2021 (UTC) ::I am also neutral, I am only trying to solve the situation because I am Romanian. don't think we will find out who "owns" the trophies too soon. FCSB has been always, but always credited as the continuation of original Steaua by UEFA in one way or another. The problem is CSA Steaua have won the honours up to 1998 in Romamiam court this summer, so this situation is far from over. My proposed solution is to turn all pages (FC Steaua București, FC Steaua Bucuresti, FC Steaua etc.) into redirects for Steaua Bucuresti and add there the explained situation (FCSB - honours attributed by UEFA, CSA honours won in court). I think the Rfc should be opened on WikiProject Football instead, because CSA Steaua is low traffic.[[User:8Dodo8|8Dodo8]] ([[User talk:8Dodo8|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/8Dodo8|contribs]]) 11:45, 22 August 2021 (UTC) :::That's a good idea. WP Football will have plenty of knowledgeable people who don't support either team. I support opening an RfC there, though I've no information or opinions to contribute to it. We should also notify WP Romania, and [[WP:WikiProject Disambiguation|WP Disambiguation]] who will probably be left to fix all the wikilinks. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 11:49, 22 August 2021 (UTC) ::::Well, I am not familiar with WP Disambig and what my compatriots are doing on the Romanian WP, but I am now opening a RfC on WikiProject football. I'll let you know in a few minutes when I'm done writing it.[[User:8Dodo8|8Dodo8]] ([[User talk:8Dodo8|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/8Dodo8|contribs]]) 12:15, 22 August 2021 (UTC) ::::I posted the discussion here [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#RfC on Steaua București disambig articles]].[[User:8Dodo8|8Dodo8]] ([[User talk:8Dodo8|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/8Dodo8|contribs]]) 13:04, 22 August 2021 (UTC) == Lists of 100 == The canadian lists were the only series of lists that listed 100 in their titles. I fixed the links so that they would match their current titles. Sometimes it is ok to leave the links as they are. This isn't the case for these links. For example, it is ok to leave the link for the binomial name of dog in instances where the scientific name is discussed. [[User:Catchpoke|Catchpoke]] ([[User talk:Catchpoke|talk]]) 16:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC) ==Common history article== Hey, I am done arguing on that talk page, that guy Dante accuses me of being biased and the whole situation only gets on my nerves. I think a better solution would be the common history article we mentioned earlier. I created one for [[Universitatea Craiova|History of Universitatea Craiova (football club)]], which is in a similar situation to the one Steaua and FCSB have. Do you mind checking it out? I think adapting the already existent [[History of FC Steaua Bucuresti]] in the same way could be a solution. I will also announce an admin about the creation of the Craiova article this since I don't want to be called a vandal again.[[User:8Dodo8|8Dodo8]] ([[User talk:8Dodo8|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/8Dodo8|contribs]]) 13:36, 26 August 2021 (UTC) :Thank you. Both the [[Universitatea Craiova]] dab and the [[History of Universitatea Craiova (football club)]] article look like very useful additions and could form a good model for our coverage of the Steaua clubs. I don't know enough about football or Romania to add anything further: I joined the original discussion to fix links to disambiguation pages. I'll keep an eye on the discussions but, with hard tackles coming in from both sides, I hope to be a spectator rather than the referee. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:51, 26 August 2021 (UTC) == I noticed it! == [[Special:Diff/1043159052|Nice reference]], thanks. <span style="display:inline-block;text-align:center;vertical-align:bottom;line-height:0.5em;">~~<nowiki/>~~<br/><span style="font-size:0.7em;">[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|talk]])</span></span> 17:51, 8 September 2021 (UTC) ==Participation in a signpost interview for WikiProject [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Redirect|Redirect]] == Hi Certes, hope that you're well. I was wondering if you'd be able to participate in a Signpost interview in your capacity as a contributor to WikiProject [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Redirect|Redirect]]? I am enthusiastic about these interviews because they help remind other Wikipedians about the passionate and diverse group of volunteers that edit Wikipedia, and into the many discussions and editors that inhabit our space, nooks and crannies. If you had time to even answer a few questions here ([[User:Tom (LT)/sandbox/WikiProject redirects interview draft]]) I'd be very grateful :). [[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 04:46, 9 September 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Tom (LT)}} Thanks for thinking of me. I'm a keen Signpost reader and look forward to reading the piece. However, I only occasionally work with redirects, so I might not make the best interviewee. By the way, replying naively to your message messes up variables such as "Hi {{{editor}}}". I managed to reply by replacing my entire talk page with {{((}}subst:User talk:Certes}} plus my reply. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 10:31, 9 September 2021 (UTC) ::Silly me, I just needed to subst your template. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 10:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC) :::Thanks, I was completely unaware of that unintended mistake :P. [[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 23:34, 18 September 2021 (UTC) == bluelink == [[Consul]] is linked over 1000 times. A cursory look indicates most are probably correct, but some should link to [[Consul (representative)]]. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 16:27, 17 September 2021 (UTC) :{{re|MB}} I've fixed about 400 of them (including one for [[Consul, Saskatchewan]]) and am monitoring for new links daily, but please let me know if you find any I've missed. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 22:09, 17 September 2021 (UTC) ::Wow. I had no idea so many were wrong. I fixed the one that led me to this. In that case, have you considered if the dab should be at the basename. [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=Consul|Consul_(representative)|Roman_consul|Consul_(software) Page views] doesn't show a clear PT, and if nearly have the links are to the diplomatic title, the dab may be a better target. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 22:25, 17 September 2021 (UTC) :::[[Consul]] can be viewed as a [[WP:BCA|BCA]]: like a dab but with all entries having something in common (types of leader). Links to BCAs don't appear on reports such as [https://dplbot.toolforge.org/disambig_links.php Disambiguation pages with links]. They're one of several types of link target which fall through the cracks for [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Bluelink patrol|WikiProject Bluelink patrol]] to deal with. Others include set indices such as [[Ministry of Defence]] (usually [[Ministry of Defence (United Kingdom)]] but occasionally India etc.) and articles where the "encyclopaedic" primary topic is not what many readers and editors think of first ([[Apple]] vs [[Apple Inc.]], [[Model]] vs [[Model (person)]], etc.) [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 22:50, 17 September 2021 (UTC) ::::This may be the first time I have seen a BCA and a DAB. If I find something like this again, would you prefer that I put it at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject| the Bluelink project]] instead? [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 23:35, 17 September 2021 (UTC) :::::It's a bit of a mess; we should normally have either a BCA or a dab. (I usually lean towards dab.) Dealing with such cases isn't really anyone's responsibility, which is why they often don't get dealt with. Although new, [[WP:BPAT]] is probably as good a place as anywhere to report them. It's debatable whether links to the BCA are "wrong" – they're about one of the subtopics it covers – but I think many are capable of improvement. A more diligent editor might have diverted most of the remaining links to [[Roman consul]]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 23:42, 17 September 2021 (UTC) ::::::{{tps}} [[Ford Consul]], anyone? BCAs/SIAs should give readers a sensible selection of related topics to choose from. {{u|MB}}, gud catch. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 21:24, 19 September 2021 (UTC) :::::::''For the consul using a ford, see [[Battle of Tigranocerta]].'' [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 22:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC) ::::::::Ford Consul and [[Ford Prefect|Prefect]], but no Imperator, Dictator, Tribune or Quaestor. Odd. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 18:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC) == Whoop, there it is... == Somewhere out on that horizon<br> Out beyond the neon lights<br> I know there must be something better<br> But there's nowhere else in sight<br> It's survival in the city<br> When you live from day to day<br> City streets don't have much pity<br> When you're down, that's where you'll stay<br> – [[In the City (Joe Walsh song)|In the City]] Check out the new Portal:Cities. It's curated now. Improve at will if you're into it. Cheers, <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 03:55, 23 September 2021 (UTC) == Quick thanks re Open Media == Just to say, thanks for correcting my mistake with the disambiguation page. I didn't know that rule but it makes sense. Was just trying to help redirect people who contact us thinking they are going to reach the Liverpool firm. [[User:AnOpenMedium|AnOpenMedium]] ([[User talk:AnOpenMedium|talk]]) 13:14, 7 October 2021 (UTC) :Thanks for the message. I understand that you're editing in good faith and not connected to (or here to plug) the Liverpool firm. It's tempting to add the entry, but it doesn't seem major enough to qualify for [[Advertising agency#List of advertising agencies]] and, after all, [[WP:Wikipedia is not a directory|Wikipedia is not a directory]]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:29, 7 October 2021 (UTC) ==Plurals of common nouns== {{-r|Borders}} and {{-r|Highlands}} are currently at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 8]], and the !voting traffic is so far all one way. It might be a propitious time for you to collect the Plurals you monitor and nominate them as well (perhaps over a few days). I suspect you may have the figures to back such nominations up. (Is there such a thing as reverse [[WP:CANVASS]]ing? You can probably guess which way I'd !vote.) [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 16:45, 12 October 2021 (UTC) :I'm not sure I can make a great case for any of them. [&#91;[[The Carpenters]]|Carpenters]] is more commonly linked than [&#91;[[carpenters]]]], but most unlinked mentions are about woodworkers. [[WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 May 19#Eagles]] failed to gain consensus, despite it also having sporting uses. We tried other sports teams such as [[WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 7#Ospreys]] without success. Other sporting ambiguities include [[Angels]], [[Barbarians]], [[Bears]], [[Border Reivers]], [[Broncos]], [[Buccaneers]], [[Canadiens]], [[Cavaliers]], [[Cheetahs]], [[Coyotes]], [[Crusaders]], [[Dolphins]], [[Dragons]], [[Ducks]], [[Falcons‎]], [[Flames]], [[Griquas]], [[Hawks]], [[Hornets]], [[Hurricanes]], [[Jaguars]], [[Jays]], [[Leopards]], [[Lions]], [[Pelicans]], [[Penguins]], [[Pirates]], [[Predators]], [[Rockets]], [[Rockies]], [[Saints]], [[Saracens]], [[Sharks]], [[Stars]], [[Tigers]], [[Twins]], [[Warriors]], [[Wasps]] and [[Wolves]]. Do you think any are particularly likely to gain support? [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 00:03, 13 October 2021 (UTC) ::All yield silly results, but [[Saints]] stands out to me as being ambiguous both sides of The Pond in major sports, and [[stars]] because of the acting/sporting use. Once the open discussions have run their course, there will be recent precedent. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 08:07, 13 October 2021 (UTC) == RM on [[QC]] == You may want to comment at [[Talk:QC (disambiguation)]]. Have you ever fixed bluelinks to QC? [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 17:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC) :I've never fixed bluelinks to QC. From a quick glance, they're all correct, mostly of the form {{tq|Sir '''Hangham Flogham''' [[QC]] was a lawyer.}} Thanks for the pointer to a tricky RM. [[Queen's Counsel]] gets [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=Queen%27s_Counsel 800 views a day] and doesn't seem a PT amongst [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QC%20(disambiguation) rivals] but that just confirms that [[Quebec]] is a popular topic, not how many readers refer to it as "QC". I'm leaning towards Support but will see if any compelling evidence appears in the next few days. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 19:11, 24 October 2021 (UTC) ==Disambiguation link notification for October 25== Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that you've added some links pointing to [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|disambiguation pages]]. Such links are [[WP:INTDABLINK|usually incorrect]], since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. <small>(Read the [[User:DPL bot/Dablink notification FAQ|FAQ]]{{*}} Join us at the [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links|DPL WikiProject]].)</small> :[[Meanings of minor planet names: 48001–49000]] ::added a link pointing to [[Rutland, Vermont]] :[[Peter Gallo]] ::added a link pointing to [[Rutland, Vermont]] It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these [[User:DPL bot|opt-out instructions]]. 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[[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 11:43, 1 November 2021 (UTC) == I need your help can you review the article I created for [[Joaquin Domagoso]]. == Good day, I would have asked for help because someone proposed a deletion in the article I created, he said no because he is the mayor's son, this is not a basis to say that he is an actor and he doesn't have any significant roles on television. I also have a list of shows and series that he voted for me not to be deleted and someone also helped, I hope you can help me thank you. --[[User:7starunited|7starunited]] ([[User talk:7starunited|talk]]) 13:36, 1 November 2021 (UTC) :Sorry, I can't help with this one. I've never heard of Domagoso and I am not an expert on [[WP:notability|notability]]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:40, 1 November 2021 (UTC) == AWB - Linux == Hey Certes! I'm sure you remember me. I'm still grateful you helped me set up AWB on my Linux PC, been using it everyday since then. Now that I've regained a bit of security with it though, I had a question I've been wanting to make since day one: I don't know if that's supposed to happen to everyone but for me, AWB runs with a couple of errors. Like, setting the changes made as part of the summary is always set ON and I can't remove it (there isn't even a checkbox to begin with), the main screen showcasing changes being done freezes, the page-queue freezes "changing" (even though it does accept your commands), etc. It's still usable pretty good but I was wondering if those problems too can be solved with a couple of updates. Considering what we did the last time, the things that can be updated are: # wine; # winetricks; # dotnet; # AWB; Now, I've already made sure to update AWB to the latest version. Do you think updating any of the said components can make any change on that? Maybe you have the same problems? I tried using winetricks to "update" the dotnet version by writing "winetricks" on the terminal and using the GUI to select the latest version (dotnet62, if I'm not wrong) but it wouldn't let me select it because it said that it conflicted with my current version. Then I tried dotnet61, dotnet6... and so on but I always got the same answer. Apparently I needed to remove the current version if I wanted to get any other higher version but given that I wasn't sure that that would be the correct way to go about updating it, I didn't go any further and decided to ask here. As for wine and winetricks I didn't try. So, any advice? Also, even if they won't be helpful in my situation, what would be the correct and easiest way to update the 3 components listed above? Any GUI way? Thank you for any help you can provide! :) - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 02:13, 4 November 2021 (UTC) :I'm happy to record the changes and I don't know a way to remove them from the edit summary. You could ask a specific question and see if anyone else responds at [[WT:AWB]]. Sometimes a page takes a while to load or save, and the screen does freeze. I agree that it's good but not perfect; I'm not sure how much of this is due to AWB and how much to Linux and Wine. Try <code>wine --version</code>. Versions 4.0.3 to 5.0.3 inclusive work well; other versions may also work but I've not tested them. The version of winetricks is not important. You need dotnet45, which also installs dotnet40. dotnet62 doesn't work and other version probably don't work either. The AWB version is shown when it starts. I use 6.2.1.0 but other versions should work. Hope that helps, [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:24, 4 November 2021 (UTC) ::I always get version 4.0 for Wine. ::I tried updating and upgrading it (and everything else basically) but I always get the same results as shown [https://pastebin.com/44urhg1T here]. ::AWB is updated so if we remove our attention from winetricks and dotnet, wine is all there's left. But you're telling me we have the same problems so I believe there's nothing wrong per se. I'm just curious as to why I get that behavior when I try to update wine. - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 13:00, 4 November 2021 (UTC) :::That's probably because wine has been "kept back". I've not had this problem myself but it's discussed [https://askubuntu.com/questions/601/the-following-packages-have-been-kept-back-why-and-how-do-i-solve-it here]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:06, 4 November 2021 (UTC) ::::Followed the instructions. [https://pastebin.com/d9GgaYhW Here's what I get.] ::::''U Bë'' → done (Albanian) ::::''Varet'' → depends (Albanian) - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 13:27, 4 November 2021 (UTC) :::::Sorry, I've not seen this problem myself and don't know anything about it beyond the link above. Maybe try [[WP:VPT]]? [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:30, 4 November 2021 (UTC) ::::::Yeap, I will. 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Delivered by ''[[User:SDZeroBot|SDZeroBot]]'' ([[User talk:SDZeroBot|talk]]) 01:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC) == A barnstar for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Team Barnstar Hires.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Teamwork Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | You helped me so much with that one little suggestion on linking to subsections (or is it just called "sections") of an article. THANK YOU Certes! [[User:Th78blue|Th78blue]] (They/Them/Theirs • [[User talk:Th78blue|talk)]] 20:41, 14 November 2021 (UTC) |} :Thanks {{u|Th78blue}} and you're welcome. We usually call the headings starting with two "=" sections and those with 3+ "=" subsections. Article#section works for either. Further details: [[WP:ANCHOR]]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 20:56, 14 November 2021 (UTC) == "This user tries to do the right thing. If they make a mistake, please let them know." == What is the userbox text for this? I'd like to add it to my user page. I too, try to do the right thing. {{smiley}}... but sometimes fail. [[User:Th78blue|Th78blue]] (They/Them/Theirs • [[User talk:Th78blue|talk)]] 20:46, 14 November 2021 (UTC) :It's the cryptically named {{tl|User oops}}. (I learnt a lot by using the "Edit" tab to look at a page's wikitext, even when I didn't intend to change or save it.) People here are usually very forgiving of others who try to do the right thing, especially if they're willing to communicate. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 20:55, 14 November 2021 (UTC) == If you have some spare time... == How you been doing Certes? Well, I've been trying to get the flex columns to work on [[Portal:Philately]], which I have been working on, specifically using left-wide and right narrow flex columns, using the following markup, which works on everything else: <nowiki> </nowiki> <br> <nowiki> {{Flex columns |flex1=3|</nowiki> <br> ''(CONTENT)'' <nowiki> </nowiki> <br> <nowiki> |flex2=2|</nowiki> ''(CONTENT)'' <nowiki> }}</nowiki> <br> <nowiki> </nowiki> Just can't get it to work on the portal. I have checked subpages for stray <nowiki></div></nowiki> markup, etc., but can't get it to work. There are other portals that I can't get the Flex columns to work on either: 1) Transport, 2) Bangladesh, 3) Nepal, 4) Covid-19 and 5) Energy. If you get bored, perhaps you could be of assistance. Cheers, <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 07:13, 19 November 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Northamerica1000}} I've had a go at {{diff|Portal:Philately|prev|1056056994|Philately}}. Is that what you were hoping for? The hard part was identifying the matching /div tags to remove. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC) ::(My edit has now been reverted; link above is to the old version containing the change.) [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 15:41, 19 November 2021 (UTC) :::Thanks very much Certes. Yes, that's what I was looking for. Oh well, another user ({{u|Ww2censor}}) didn't like it, and so it goes. This is not intended to disparage, but the notion of having portal maintainers for various portals who rarely work on them, or only work on them less than once a year with a single edit in between, is rather impractical. I feel that this is quite below the threshold of what a "maintainer" should be defined as. Those that actively update portals on a regular basis should be declared as maintainers, but less than one edit a year; it's a stretch at best. It reminds me of the [[WP:OWNERSHIP]] problem in some manners. I don't feel particularly eager to get into a long discussion debating using flex columns or not in the portal with Ww2censor, but if they change their mind, I would be all right with that. I think it makes the layout look much cleaner, and the addition scrolling required is actually quite minimal. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 17:48, 19 November 2021 (UTC) :::P.S. The portal received rather low <u>page views</u>, because it needs more links to it in main namespace articles. I have added some, but many more are needed to make readers aware that the portal even exists. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 17:51, 19 November 2021 (UTC) == ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message == <table class="messagebox " style="border: 1px solid #AAA; background: ivory; padding: 0.5em; width: 100%;"> <tr><td style="vertical-align:middle; padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;">[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|40px]]</td><td>Hello! Voting in the '''[[WP:ACE2021|2021 Arbitration Committee elections]]''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2021|end}}-1 day}}. All '''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2021#Election timeline|eligible users]]''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. 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It's unfortunate that the banner proudly displays a huge Greenland front and centre whilst relegating the south to the scrollbar, but I don't think we can do much about that. ({{para|croptop}} doesn't help much here.) [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 13:40, 30 November 2021 (UTC) ::Short reply: I noticed that with some of the protected areas, and thank you kindly for your assistance. It would be great if the portal image banner centered images from the start, both horizontally and vertically, so the center of the image is right in the middle. No opinion yet about changing the Earth portal redirect. More later... <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 15:42, 30 November 2021 (UTC) ::Regarding the redirect, yeah, why not? It's a bit of a close call, as both are great, highly relevant redirect targets, but I've ultimately boldly redirected the link to the new World portal ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Earth&diff=1058095541&oldid=902150893 diff]). <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 12:32, 1 December 2021 (UTC) ::– Plus, for all of November 2021, the redirect page received a grand total of [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2021-11-01&end=2021-11-30&pages=Portal:Earth 23 page views], so it's a bit moot anyway, perhaps. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 12:32, 1 December 2021 (UTC) == BPAT question == Are piped links within the realm of the project? I found an article with a link to [[Astronomy]] that displayed as Astronomer, when we have an article on [[Astronomer]], so that is obviously the better target. There are probably others, but with almost 70k links to Astronomer, it would be impractical to check them and the improvement to the project is probably not worth the effort. Still, I thought I would mention it. This is certainly a reason to NOT pipe and use redirects which can later be turned into article. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 03:09, 8 December 2021 (UTC) :Yes; I don't see why piped links would be excluded. There seem to be [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=linksto%3Aastronomy+insource%3A%2F%5C%5B%5C%5B+%2Aastronomy+%2A%5C%7C+%2Aastronome%2Fi&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns10=1&ns14=1&ns100=1 328 of them], so an AWB run may be in order. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:17, 8 December 2021 (UTC) :{{re|MB}} I've fixed some of those and will continue later if no one objects. I expect other [[:Category:science occupations|science occupations]] will have similar opportunities for improvement. We get the occasional enthusiastic new editor who specialises in bypassing redirects – some may even be matching socks – and this is a poster child for why they [[WP:NOTBROKEN|shouldn't]]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 20:23, 12 December 2021 (UTC) ::Yeah, I'm sure you have seen that I added two more at BPAT; ones that I have seen in piped redirects in actual articles. I too suspect there are more of these. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 20:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC) ==New message from Northamerica1000== [[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|25px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at [[:Template talk:Portal#Removal of the box|Template talk:Portal §&nbsp;Removal of the box]]. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 10:03, 11 December 2021 (UTC) == A barnstar for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Vitruvian Barnstar Hires.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Technical Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Your work to square away recent portal matters is truly greatly appreciated. This important work will enable literally ''billions'' of mobile readers to now be able to see portal links in articles. There is some technical work that I'm not versed in, such as modules, and your assistance has been vital in improving the encyclopedia and enabling mobile readers to have a more diversified and complete reading experience. Much thanks to you. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 13:01, 13 December 2021 (UTC) |} == Nav pop-up tool == You may be interested in [[Wikipedia talk:Tools/Navigation popups#Dab page detection]]. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 15:18, 23 December 2021 (UTC) == RDAB speedy proposal == Hello, Certes! If you are so inclined, you might want to use [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2021_December_26&diff=1062129159&oldid=1062122916 your reasoning] at RfD for a proposal at [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion]]. If you are not so inclined, I would be happy to do it instead. Rgrds. --[[User:Bison X|Bison X]] ([[User talk:Bison X|talk]]) 00:11, 30 December 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Bison X}} I would support such a proposal but I'm afraid it would probably fail. It's a perennial request; I think the most recent attempt was [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 77#Proposed new CSD criterion: R5, for redirects with malformed or misspelled (disambiguation) qualifiers]]. Some editors felt that such redirects can already be speedily deleted per [[WP:G6|G6]]; others opposed an amendment extending G6 to cover them. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 10:49, 30 December 2021 (UTC) {{od2}}Hello again, Certes! Due to a sticky letter "e" on my keyboard, yada yada yada, there is an [[Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Remove_"Typo"_from_Reword_R3|RfC on redirect typos]] regarding R3. You might want to keep an eye on it & see if there is a good time to slip in language about "(disambiguation)." Rgrds. --[[User:Bison X|Bison X]] ([[User talk:Bison X|talk]]) 15:30, 3 February 2022 (UTC) ==Wishing you a happy 2022! [[File:Happy Holidays text.png|237px|Happy holidays]]== <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#1D4E89; background-color:#6868ab; border-width:2px; text-align:left; color:white; padding:3px; max-width:750px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);> <gallery mode=packed widths="155px" heights="200px"> File:Rio New Year Fireworks.jpg File:Fuochi d'artificio.gif File:Happy New Year! (2138227696).jpg </gallery> {{center|[[File:Golden star-rotating.gif|68px|left]]{{font|text='''''Happy New Year!'''''|font=Helvetica|size=43px|color=#f90000}} [[File:Golden star-rotating.gif|68px|right]]}} <gallery mode=packed heights="280px"> File:2022 Lunar Calendar.png|{{resize|13px|[[2022|{{color|white|<u>MMXXII</u>}}]] Lunar Calendar}} </gallery> {{center|{{resize|20px|'''Certes,'''<br>Have a great 2022 and thanks for your continued contributions to Wikipedia.}}}}</br> [[File:Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - 1908 Australian postcard.png|center|500px]] ---- <div style="float:left"> &nbsp;&nbsp; – <small>Background color is Very Peri (<u>#6868ab</u>), Pantone's [https://www.printmag.com/design-news/2022-pantone-color-of-the-year/ <span style="color:white;"><u>2022 Color of the year</u></span>]</small> </div>{{-}} {{center|''{{resize|90%|Send New Year cheer by adding [[Template:Happy New Year 2022|<span style="color:white;"><u><nowiki>{{subst:Happy New Year 2022}}</nowiki></u></span>]] to user talk pages.}}''}} {{-}} </div> – '''<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 16:28, 3 January 2022 (UTC)''' == Portal cats again == Something else changed recently, and now {{tq|<nowiki>"{{portal bar}}"</nowiki>}} (that is with no parameters) is being flagged in [[:Category:Portal templates with all redlinked portals]]. Nothing wrong with that. But something in {{tl|Year category header}} is assuming that there are portals for every category where it is used, but there aren't. [[:Category:Portal templates with all redlinked portals]] has a couple right now, but it has just started to fill up. I think there will be many eventually. [[:Category:1960s]] displays [[Portal:1960s]], but [[:Category:1970s]] does not display [[Portal:1970s]]. Note that 1960s exists while 1970s is a redirect to [[Portal:Modern history]]. That's what I have figured out so far. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 03:56, 4 January 2022 (UTC) :{{re|MB}} There are two issues here. Firstly, more pages are being flagged. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing; {{u|Hike395}} may be able to shed light on the recent changes. Secondly, [[Module:FindYDCportal#L-21]] hard-codes a list of portals rather than checking whether they actually exist. [[Portal:1970s]] isn't listed there, perhaps because it's a redirect, so {{tl|Year category header}} doesn't know about it. Similarly, redirect [[Portal:2020s]] isn't listed, which may explain why so many 2022 pages are flagged. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:25, 4 January 2022 (UTC) ::{{ping|MB}} There was a bug in {{tl|Portal bar}} (and {{tl|Portal}} and similar) where the tracking was not on by default. I recently fixed that bug: I think this is a good thing in general, because it gives editors information they can act on. For this case, I would set {{para|tracking|0}}, because generating a missing portal is not useful for editors of {{tl|Year category header}}. I'll make the change. — [[User:Hike395|hike395]] ([[User talk:Hike395|talk]]) 13:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC) ==Disambiguation link notification for January 10== An automated process has detected that when you recently edited [[List of European saints]], you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page [[Katarzyna Ostrogska]]. ([[User:DPL bot|Opt-out instructions]].) --[[User:DPL bot|DPL bot]] ([[User talk:DPL bot|talk]]) 05:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC) :I've no idea which person this is. Help from a TPS would be welcome. (Maybe adding a dn tag should exempt us from the reminder?) [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 10:42, 10 January 2022 (UTC) == a "family" matter?? == Oh, dear! You've spotted an embarrassing faux pas in some of the categories I've created. I've been linking families to human relation ones, rather than the taxonomic ones I obviously meant. I'm afraid I might have done that dozens of times. [[User:AzseicsoK|Uporządnicki]] ([[User talk:AzseicsoK|talk]]) 18:36, 25 January 2022 (UTC) :{{re|AzseicsoK}} No problem! So many editors make these links that we have [[WP:BPAT|a whole project]] dedicated to fixing them. Many [[Template:taxonomic ranks|taxonomic ranks]] need a qualifier, usually "(biology)", but the most commonly mislinked articles are family and [[tribe (biology)|tribe]]. A few terms used in specialised areas of biology, such as [[aperture (mollusc)]], also get mislinked. (Gastropods seem to be exceptionally well covered by Wikipedia.) [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 19:19, 25 January 2022 (UTC) == Linux help == Hello, Certes! You've helped me some time ago with my Linux problems in regard to AWB. I'm having some rather major problems now and not knowing where else to go (and considering you to be more informed in regard to Linux than myself), I thought I'd give it a try here. I deleted the <code>/etc/apt/sources.list.d</code> directory. (I can provide background information why I did that if it is needed.) I tried recreating it and giving the needed permissions (mkdir + chmod) but I believe it has left some persistent problems. Lately I tried installing 2 packages (unrelated to each other) and I couldn't do it. *<code>sudo apt install trash-cli</code> returns <code>E: Unable to locate package trash-cli</code> *<code>sudo apt install php7.2-cli</code> returns <code>E: Unable to locate package php7.2-cli</code> I've tried re-deleting that directory and recreating it many times now (currently is still deleted) and running <code>sudo apt update</code> thinking it would solve the problem but... Do you have any advice to offer whatsoever? What should I ultimately do with that directory? Should I recreate it manually with mkdir? Do you think the problems are related to that event or maybe it is just a coincidence? I worry that I won't be able to install any new package whatsoever in the future. :/ - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:01, 27 January 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Klein Muçi}} I don't know: I've not seen that problem before. All I can suggest is restoring <code>/etc/apt/sources.list.d</code> from a backup, if you have one, but that will probably bring back the issues you were trying to solve in the first place. [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing]] may have a specialist who can help further. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC) ::I believe it was a rather hurried decision overall. I was following instructions from [[mw:How to become a MediaWiki hacker#Set up your development environment|here]] to install docker and I was having some problems with duplicated lines from there. I deleted the directory altogether not fearing much because that laptop is almost factory mode except for the AWB which you helped me install. I thought I could always recreate it if needed. Eventually I was able to complete the instructions there but I started having these other problems. And no, unfortunately I don't have a backup (at least, not one that I know of) because, as I said, the computer is rather blank. But thank you for the link! I had totally forgotten that place. I'll try there. - [[User:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[User talk:Klein Muçi|talk]]) 12:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC) == Second opinion == A RM discussion at [[Talk:Deira (disambiguation)]] closed as No Consensus. By the numbers, it was 3/2. Where would you have been on this one? [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 02:31, 31 January 2022 (UTC) :{{re|MB}} A close call, so I'd probably have left it to other editors even if I'd known about it. Starting from scratch I'd make Deira a dab, but I'm more pro-dab than most editors and leaving the status quo is not unreasonable. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:38, 31 January 2022 (UTC) ::I was thinking of asking for a relisting given the minimal participation, but maybe I will try a new discussion in a year or more. Until then, this is a candidate for BPAT to monitor (I think I fixed the current mis-links). [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 15:13, 31 January 2022 (UTC) ==New message from Mreatwashacked== {{talkback|User talk:2601:647:6512:44D7:504C:2BFE:363B:BDF5|ts=00:21, 2 February 2022 (UTC)}} [[User:Mreatwashacked|Mr Eat]] ([[User talk:Mreatwashacked|talk]]) 00:21, 2 February 2022 (UTC) ==March 2022== [[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hi [[User:Certes|Certes]]. I noticed you [[Special:Contributions/Certes|left a message]] on my [[User talk:Telefocus|talk page]]. I would like to inform you that for any talk page, if you wish to contact the User, you must start another thread. This can be done by typing pressing "New Section" and then typing in a subject line, then typing in your message.([[User:Telefocus]] > New Section) Intervening in other threads is never okay and is frowned upon, especially when you are not affiliated with either person. As I mentioned previously, however, this can be interpreted to [[WP:SOCK|sockpuppetry]], [[WP:MEAT|meatpuppetry]] or even a [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|targeted attack]] due to the fact there is a likely possibility the intervening user is a sockpuppet account created by one of the [[User:Chris troutman|users]] to intimidate the other into submission. Evidence is that the intervening user has "no affiliation" with either parties, so must have been created by one of them to appear as an outsider. Even if they are not a sockpuppet, it would most likely be a [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|targeted attack]] be the [[User:Chris troutman|user]], asking the intervening user to intervene. Regardless, please make sure that you start a new thread and do not interrupt others that you have no affiliation with. Thank you, [[User:Telefocus|Telefocus]] ([[User talk:Telefocus|talk]]) 18:39, 3 March 2022 (UTC) :<small>(Talk page watcher)</small> I'd start a new thread here if it was actually a requirement to do so whenever contacting a user, but it's not a policy or guideline whatsoever, so instead, I just ''indented'' this message here. [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines]] has nothing about the notion of "intervening" in other threads never being okay, and has nothing about affiliation with a user being a requirement to communicate within an existing thread. Cheers, <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 16:20, 5 March 2022 (UTC) ::<small>(Another talk page watcher)</small> {{tq|Intervening in other threads is never okay{{cn}} and is frowned upon{{by whom}}}} –[[User:Austronesier|Austronesier]] ([[User talk:Austronesier|talk]]) 19:22, 5 March 2022 (UTC) :: <small>(Another user who has their own guidelines for their talk page.)</small>It's a notice, I'm not starting a talk thread... What is it with some Wikipedians going straight to [[WP:LAWYER|an argument]]? I was giving him my policy for [[User talk:Telefocus|my talk page]], not yours, or any other Users for that matter. [[User:Telefocus|Telefocus]] ([[User talk:Telefocus|talk]]) 17:09, 7 March 2022 (UTC) :::The guidelines for all user talk pages can be found at [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#User talk pages]] and related pages. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 00:39, 8 March 2022 (UTC) ::::My guidelines, such as [[Special:diff/767034353|you do]] for asking people to respond on their talk page if you talk to them on theirs and Vice-versa, can be found [[User talk:Telefocus|here]]. [[User:Telefocus|Telefocus]] ([[User talk:Telefocus|talk]]) 04:21, 8 March 2022 (UTC) == Seervi Jat == Hi, was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seervi_Jat&type=revision&diff=1075383692&oldid=1075383479 this] an error or were you looking to do something else? I moved the article because it didn't need a disambiguation. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]], [[User talk:CambridgeBayWeather|Uqaqtuq (talk)]], [[Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather|Huliva]] 16:14, 6 March 2022 (UTC) :{{re|CambridgeBayWeather}} Oops. I opened the article to fix a link (Pali here is the district rather than the language), but it moved whilst I was editing it. It looks as if I accidentally saved my edited version over the top of the redirect that was created whilst I was editing, effectively doing a copy-paste move. I'm surprised I didn't get an edit conflict. Thanks for spotting the error and fixing the redirect. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 18:40, 6 March 2022 (UTC) ::No worries. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]], [[User talk:CambridgeBayWeather|Uqaqtuq (talk)]], [[Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather|Huliva]] 18:46, 6 March 2022 (UTC) == Your edit to Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested == Question: did you intend to remove DVdm's typo fix (refrerence -> reference) and remove Tercer's comment {{diff||next|1076088006|here}}? Cheers [[User:Adakiko|Adakiko]] ([[User talk:Adakiko|talk]]) 12:13, 9 March 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Adakiko}} No. I've reinstated them. Thanks for pointing this out. I should have got an edit conflict notification. A similar thing happened a few days ago; something may be broken with the edit conflict system. I'll raise the matter at [[WP:VPT]]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC) == Deletion of “Donald Pevsner” == My entry certainly looks “too long”. However, I would bet that my life deeds are a good bit more “worthy” than yours. For example, I left out the fact that I was a syndicated newspaper columnist with over 15 million Sunday readers. Who appointed you personally to determine who is “worthy” or not, anyway? Please send me the Wikipedia guidelines, if any exist. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/174.212.99.30|174.212.99.30]] ([[User talk:174.212.99.30|talk]]) 14:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC) :To keep the conversation together, I have replied on the talk page of your other IP address. I neither claimed to be worthy nor suggested that you are not. I simply pointed out that the edit I reverted firstly was in the wrong place and secondly failed to provide the evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]] required for a Wikipedia entry. (I don't have or merit an article either.) [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 22:50, 14 March 2022 (UTC) == Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church == Hi {{ping|Certes}} You had recently edited the article [[Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church]]. Please intervene in the dispute going on in [[Talk: Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church#What is happening here?]]. Thank you. [[User:Jude Didimus|Jude Didimus]] ([[User talk:Jude Didimus|talk]]) 05:27, 18 March 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Jude Didimus}} Sorry, I don't know enough about the topic to help with that discussion. I simply corrected a typo. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 11:25, 18 March 2022 (UTC) ::Yes, but it would be very helpful if you look into the discussion and evaluate it.[[User:Jude Didimus|Jude Didimus]] ([[User talk:Jude Didimus|talk]]) <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 11:31, 18 March 2022 (UTC)</small>  == Cyrtophleba and Cyrtophloeba == Can you explain the reasoning to restoring the misspelt genus ''Cyrtophleba'' please? On page 207 of Rondani (1856) Dipterologiae Italicae Prodromus. Vol: I it is Cyrtophloeba. This has precedence over the spelling of 1857 Dipterologiae Italicae Prodromus. Vol: II. repeated by Vimmer & Soukup 1940 and subsequent authors. See O’Hara, James E.; Shannon, J. Henderson; D. Monty, Wood (5 March 2020). "World Checklist of the Tachinidae" (PDF). Tachinidae Resources page 137. If you are using Systema Dipterorum as a reference, the spellings will be corrected on the next update. [[User:Simuliid|<font color="#21610B" style="text-shadow: #5FB404 0 3px 3px;">'''Simuliid'''</font>]] [[User talk:Simuliid|<span style="color:#013ADF;">talk</span>]] 12:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Simuliid}} [http://www.nadsdiptera.org/Tach/WorldTachs/Checklist/Tachchlist_ver2.1.pdf Ref 1] seems to be the only source for the ''Cyrtophloeba'' spelling. [https://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2009/f/zt02190p236.pdf Ref 2] [https://web.archive.org/web/20110706211242/http://www.uoguelph.ca/nadsfly/Tach/Genera/Gentach_ver4.pdf Ref 3] [https://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=650768#null Ref 4] [https://www.gbif.org/species/1464003 Ref 6] and [https://bugguide.net/node/view/864242 Ref 7] all use ''Cyrtophleba''. (Ref 5 doesn't show me either spelling, even in [http://web.archive.org/web/20180428093714/https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/browse/tree/id/747371e95bbbb7390aeeb72eafce787f archive].) The titles and text of all species articles ([[Cyrtophleba coquilletti]], [[Cyrtophleba horrida]], [[Cyrtophleba nitida]]) use ''Cyrtophleba'' consistently, as do their refs. If we still want to move the genus article, it needs a proper page move to retain the attribution, rather than [[Wikipedia:Cut and paste move| cutting and pasting]] over the redirect, and we need to consider moving the species articles and changing their content to be consistent. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:59, 22 March 2022 (UTC) :…and [[Template:Taxonomy/Cyrtophleba]] needs to be moved, then we should fix the spelling in it and [[Special:Search/~Cyrtophleba|a few articles]]. ([[Voriini]] is my fault). [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 14:44, 22 March 2022 (UTC) ::Thank you, all valid points. I have better citations now to support the ''Cyrtophloeba'' spelling, and I have personal comms from James O’Hara, the leading expert on Tachinidae with support and advice on the spelling. Not that I can use "pers coms" on Wikipedia, and rightly so! The original author's spelling has to take precedence over any subsequent spelling, in this case Camillo Róndani. However, he also misspelt it in the same and subsequent publications, adding to the confusion. [[ICZN]] rule are the first name has precedence, always, regardless. ::Yes, the other sources all use Cyrtophleba, as do very many other papers. Some indexes are not that up to date or reliable, especially ITIS, with old taxonomy, misspellings, synonyms listed as valid etc. ::Thank you for querying my edits. And you raise very valid points like updates of the species pages, I had planned to do that a day or two latter. But most of all, you had me explore this in more detail, and have me question my own changes. Always a good thing. When I do update, I will add a section on the naming confusion. ::However, I had wanted to move the page. But, I couldn't do that as the page was already occupied by the redirect, Wikipedia blocked that. Hence, the copy and paste change. Unless you know a way to do this? [[User:Simuliid|<font color="#21610B" style="text-shadow: #5FB404 0 3px 3px;">'''Simuliid'''</font>]] [[User talk:Simuliid|<span style="color:#013ADF;">talk</span>]] 20:43, 24 March 2022 (UTC) :::{{re|Simuliid}} Thanks for investigating. If you're certain that ''Cyrtophleba'' is an incorrect spelling then the best way forward is to file a request for an uncontroversial move at [[WP:RMTR|RMTR]]. If you're less sure then I'd raise a [[WP:RM|RM]] in the usual way and let other experts have their say. Moving the species is no problem as the targets are redlinks. [[Template:Taxonomy/Cyrtophloeba]] already exists but, if you copy-pasted it from [[Template:Taxonomy/Cyrtophleba]], it would be better to file a RMTR for that too so we can keep the [[Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia|attribution|]] from the original template. Hope that helps, [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 20:50, 24 March 2022 (UTC) ==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Get Enough (disambiguation)]]== [[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]] {{Quote box|quote=<p>If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read [[WP:Your first article|the guide to writing your first article]].</p><p>You may want to consider using the [[Wikipedia:Article wizard|Article Wizard]] to help you create articles.</p>|width=20%|align=right}} A tag has been placed on [[:Get Enough (disambiguation)]] requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under [[WP:CSD#G14|section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion]], because it is a disambiguation page which either :::*disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is there a primary topic?|primary topic]]); :::* disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or :::*is an [[Wikipedia:Orphan|orphaned]] redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function. Under the [[WP:CSD#Articles|criteria for speedy deletion]], such pages may be deleted at any time. Please [[Wikipedia:MOSDAB|see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information]]. If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by [[:Get Enough (disambiguation)|visiting the page]] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with [[Wikipedia:List of policies|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]]. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the {{Querylink|Special:Log|qs=type=delete&page=Get+Enough+%28disambiguation%29|deleting administrator}}.   [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 09:35, 27 March 2022 (UTC) :Yes, please delete. The redirect was a {{tl|R to disambiguation page}} but its target is no longer a dab. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 10:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC) ==Happy April 1== {{collapse top|1=Don't open this!}} <div style="transform: rotate(-25deg);">[[File:Farnos.jpg|700px|left|thumb|{{center|'''What the?!'''}}]]</div><br><br><br> <div style="transform: rotate(+25deg);">[[File:Farnos.jpg|thumb|right|265px|'''Happy April Fool's Day! Thanks for your contributions to improve the dissemination of free knowledge to humanity!''' <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 15:07, 1 April 2022 (UTC)]]</div> {{clear}} {{collapse bottom}} {{-}} {{center|'''[[User:Northamerica1000/AfD listing|Check it!]]'''}} == [[User:Certes/Western]] == Just found this page; {{IPvandal|107.77.232.149}} from yesterday might be them (similar ISP and geolocation as some ranges used). Or have they gone dormant in recent times? [[:User:Wizzito|<span style="color: hotpink; text-decoration: inherit;">wizzito</span>]] &#124; [[:User talk:Wizzito|<span style="color: navyc; text-decoration: inherit;">say hello!</span>]] 19:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC) :Yes, that's my vandal! They're almost dormant, but that's probably due to edit filters. Thanks for the report. I find it incredible that someone could remain so interested in the same kids' TV for seven years – don't kids grow up nowadays? [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 21:14, 1 April 2022 (UTC) ::If you want to know about a similar vandal, [[WP:LTA/TFD]] has been at it since 2010 replacing people's names with cast members from Australian kids' TV shows. I'll add the pages listed to my watchlist and see if anything else comes up in the future. [[:User:Wizzito|<span style="color: hotpink; text-decoration: inherit;">wizzito</span>]] &#124; [[:User talk:Wizzito|<span style="color: navyc; text-decoration: inherit;">say hello!</span>]] 14:28, 2 April 2022 (UTC) :::Yes, a similar pattern, though clearly different people as each edits from a consistent place on different continents. Mine is into [[PAW Patrol]]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 15:19, 2 April 2022 (UTC) ::::The [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Summer_Forever_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=1080366910 latest edit] on ''Summer Forever'' seems to be namedropping some child and old western actors, while talking about a middle and high school in Mississippi and some Arab countries? [[:User:Wizzito|<span style="color: hotpink; text-decoration: inherit;">wizzito</span>]] &#124; [[:User talk:Wizzito|<span style="color: navyc; text-decoration: inherit;">say hello!</span>]] 15:46, 2 April 2022 (UTC) :::::Oh dear, they've moved on from old westerns. That'll make them harder to spot, as the child actors were actually alive at the time of these alleged performances. A private edit filter blocks certain text, but the vandal seems to have found new incorrect information to add. I don't see any other obviously wrong articles, but I'll update my regular off-wiki check to look for the new favourites. Thanks for the tip. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 17:00, 2 April 2022 (UTC) == Proposed layout changes == Thank you for [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements/Fourth_prototype_testing/Feedback#Username%3ACertes comments on the Desktop "Improvements"], esp the evil fixed-width. You are right: the WMF should used its funds on something useful, rather than waste them on this great leap backwards. [[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 13:54, 12 April 2022 (UTC) == FYI == [[Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Clarifying scope of non-disruptive statements of opinion on internal Wikipedia policies and guidelines]] --[[User:Guy Macon Alternate Account|Guy Macon Alternate Account]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon Alternate Account|talk]]) 17:33, 13 April 2022 (UTC) == Nomination for deletion of [[:Template:S-line/TJM left/6]] == [[File:Ambox warning blue.svg|30px|link=]][[:Template:S-line/TJM left/6]] has been [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|nominated for deletion]]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 April 13#Template:S-line/TJM left/6|the entry on the Templates for discussion page]]. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 23:10, 13 April 2022 (UTC) == Nomination for deletion of [[:Template:S-line/TJM right/6]] == [[File:Ambox warning blue.svg|30px|link=]][[:Template:S-line/TJM right/6]] has been [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|nominated for deletion]]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 April 13#Template:S-line/TJM right/6|the entry on the Templates for discussion page]]. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 23:11, 13 April 2022 (UTC) == Thanks == Thanks for cleaning up after me [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=8192_(number)&diff=1085834380&oldid=1085807312 here] -- and apologies to {{ping|Bruce1ee}} for the errant revert. --[[User:JayBeeEll|JBL]] ([[User_talk:JayBeeEll|talk]]) 00:44, 3 May 2022 (UTC) :You're welcome. I'm an inclusionist but not all of the many new number facts seem relevant or important enough to belong in the articles. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 01:03, 3 May 2022 (UTC) == Recent editing == Sorry about that [[User:Cwater1|Cwater1]] ([[User talk:Cwater1|talk]]) 02:14, 9 May 2022 (UTC) == Please block this account already == Please block (NOT BAN) this account from editing. For at least a few months (if you even can). Please. It is much more effective than following it. [[Special:Contributions/199.43.174.143|199.43.174.143]] ([[User talk:199.43.174.143|talk]]) 17:23, 2 June 2022 (UTC) :I've replied to the longer thread at [[User talk:199.43.174.143]]. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 18:03, 2 June 2022 (UTC) == [[Cervix]] == I've noted that [[User:Ggijj554]] made a not-constructive edit and I've reverted also your edit for mistake. The user aforementioned also put a file representing a lock also used when the page become semi-protected, but your edit left it there. Now is fixed. [[User:ZandDev|ZandDev]] ([[User talk:ZandDev|msg]]) 17:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC) :{{re|ZandDev}} Thanks, I see what happened there. I should have checked for a removed SD before making a new one up – all GAs now have one. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 18:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC) == Macronesia == The source for the species list at ''[[Tetragnatha]]'' seems to use "Macronesia" in the first sense of the [[wikt:Macronesia|Wiktionary entry]]. Certainly its reference for the species covers only Australasia in a broad sense (i.e. including the South Pacific), and definitely not Macaronesia. So I'm not quite sure what the best solution is: "Macronesia" is sourced, but not a term that is currently clear. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 21:00, 9 July 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Peter coxhead}} Thanks for investigating. Yes, it looks like a verbatim quote from [[World Spider Catalog|WSC]], which is all I could find too. My guess was [[Micronesia]] but I agree that it looks more like sense 1 from Wiktionary: rare, but not an error. I copied your fix to [[List of Tetragnathidae species]].{{pb}}I wonder if we should retarget redirect {{-r|Macronesia}}. I fixed about 10 cases which were clear typos for [[Macaronesia]], but it seems to have legitimate use too. Another way to deal with such things is a "source looks dodgy" footnote as in ''[[Raoiella indica]]'', but I don't think that's appropriate here. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 22:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC) :{{u|Sesamehoneytart}} makes a relevant point in {{diff|List of Tetragnathidae species|prev|1097352650|an edit to List of Tetragnathidae species}}. I'm not a subject expert but can the three of us agree on the most accurate location for both articles? [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 09:37, 10 July 2022 (UTC) :Both Macaronesia and Micronesia are distinct, different places of similar standing with the exception that one is much more widely known than the other. As far as it being a "rare" term, maybe it is in general, but within the context of spider wikipedia articles, it's not really rare at all. I'm curious about these typos (and whether they are actually typos) because that's a common random spellcheck edit (in good faith, of course) that I have to revert in the ten bazillion orphan spider articles I'm currently watching. That said, the World Spider Catalog- originally sourced in this example- is technically a secondary source, so when there is conflicting information like this, I am much more inclined to believe the primary source. <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Sesamehoneytart|<span style="color:green">Sesame</span>]][[User talk:Sesamehoneytart|<span style="color:blue">honey</span>]][[User:Sesamehoneytart/created articles|<span style="color:red">tart</span>]]</span> 18:36, 10 July 2022 (UTC) ::{{re|Sesamehoneytart}} I've not changed any text which read "Macaronesia" or "Micronesia". If any editor has confused the two then I've made no attempt to find or fix such errors. I only reviewed articles mentioning "Macronesia", which Wiktionary [[wikt:Macronesia|claims]] is rare and I tend to agree. Some were clearly correct: mainly citations of ''[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/295847158_New_Cossidae_Lepidoptera_from_Asia_Africa_and_Macronesia New Cossidae (Lepidoptera) from Asia, Africa and Macronesia]'' and plot summaries for ''[[seaQuest DSV]]'' which uses a fictional location called Macronesia. About ten were clearly typos for [[Macaronesia]], so I fixed them. A typical example is {{diff|Sempervivoideae|prev|1097092390|Sempervivoideae}}, where the source ([https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/tax.12316 Messerschmid]) clearly refers to Macaronesia (Azores etc.) rather than Macronesia (Australia) or Micronesia (south Pacific). None of the ten concerned spiders. I suspected an error in the two spider articles mentioned here but was not confident enough to boldly change it, so I asked for help with a {{tl|clarify}} tag. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 19:08, 10 July 2022 (UTC) :::Your changes are all good- I didn't mean that as an accusation to ''you'' in particular; what I meant is that "Macaronesia" is rare in the same way that "pedipalp" is rare- it may be rare in general, but within the context of biogeographical publications, it's the accepted/expected term. For example [https://wsc.nmbe.ch/reference/11476 this] and [https://wsc.nmbe.ch/reference/13833 this]. Don't be afraid to be bold; all help in good faith is welcome, and there's nothing you can do that can't be fixed. I've made plenty of mistakes myself <s>on 500+ consecutive article edits</s>. Good faith mistakes are still better than ones like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saaristoa&type=revision&diff=1094650611&oldid=1011931477&diffmode=source this]. If this clown can be bold, you can be too :-) <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Sesamehoneytart|<span style="color:green">Sesame</span>]][[User talk:Sesamehoneytart|<span style="color:blue">honey</span>]][[User:Sesamehoneytart/created articles|<span style="color:red">tart</span>]]</span> 11:14, 11 July 2022 (UTC) ::::Thanks. Those citations are for Mac'''a'''ronesia which I agree isn't rare; it's only Macronesia (no A) which often seems to be a typo. I enjoyed the ''Metaverse'' spider: does it exist only on its web site? [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 12:04, 11 July 2022 (UTC) ==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:The Self-Titled Tour (disambiguation)]]== [[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]] {{Quote box|quote=<p>If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read [[WP:Your first article|the guide to writing your first article]].</p><p>You may want to consider using the [[Wikipedia:Article wizard|Article Wizard]] to help you create articles.</p>|width=20%|align=right}} A tag has been placed on [[:The Self-Titled Tour (disambiguation)]] requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under [[WP:CSD#G14|section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion]], because it is a disambiguation page which either :::*disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is there a primary topic?|primary topic]]); :::* disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or :::*is an [[Wikipedia:Orphan|orphaned]] redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function. Under the [[WP:CSD#Articles|criteria for speedy deletion]], such pages may be deleted at any time. Please [[Wikipedia:MOSDAB|see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information]]. If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by [[:The Self-Titled Tour (disambiguation)|visiting the page]] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with [[Wikipedia:List of policies|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]]. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the {{Querylink|Special:Log|qs=type=delete&page=The+Self-Titled+Tour+%28disambiguation%29|deleting administrator}}.   [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 13:59, 15 July 2022 (UTC) == Help with restoring hijacked articles == [[User:BigChungoBungo]] has hijacked 9 articles, replacing them with the text from the page [[Odin]]. Since the edit filter thinks that I am blanking the articles, I have only been able to revert two of their edits. Could you please help? [[Special:Contributions/47.227.95.73|47.227.95.73]] ([[User talk:47.227.95.73|talk]]) 22:22, 21 July 2022 (UTC) :Some have already been fixed; I've done the rest. Thanks for the report. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 22:29, 21 July 2022 (UTC) == UTC+12:00 == Hey Certes. I just realized we were on third person's talk page and I've been warned before about that. Just wanted to add that when I started looking at the edit histories of some of the pages this person has targeted, the story seems to get longer very quickly. Many IP addresses, many more targets. I'm real-life busy this week so I'm not interested in tracking down all these IPs, but it ''is'' concerning. The addition of death dates were glaring (I reverted some myself earlier this week) and that behavior is probably worthy of block-on-sight just on their own, but those are easily caught and reverted. Whether a celeb is alive or dead can be easily confirmed or refuted within seconds. The time zone tinkerings are ''more'' concerning in a way because as you've already said, it's hard to tell if there's anything to the changes, or complete nonsense, or something in between. --[[User:DB1729|DB1729]] ([[User talk:DB1729|talk]]) 23:27, 21 July 2022 (UTC) :{{re|DB1729}} The US plans to change DST but plans haven't taken effect yet, don't seem finalised, and would result in permanent DST (rather than no DST as implied by the edits I looked at, which concerned Canada anyway). With no edit summaries and no response to talk page messages, it's hard to know whether this is vandalism, [[WP:CIR|incompetence]] or important information that we've missed (but still needs a source). IP hopping would tend to suggest vandalism. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 23:38, 21 July 2022 (UTC) == Limerick == Hey, I see you reverted my edit to [[Limerick]]. I don't think the revert was warranted as articles on other Irish cities do not use the prefix "Republic of" and [[WP:IRE-IRL]] only requires the distinction where the island of Ireland or Northern Ireland is being discussed in the same context. [[User:Cashew.wheel|Cashew.wheel]] ([[User talk:Cashew.wheel|talk]]) 15:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC) :The guideline does support the view that political correctness is more important than clarity, so if you want to change it back then I won't revert again. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 15:16, 28 July 2022 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Cashew.wheel|Cashew.wheel]] ([[User talk:Cashew.wheel|talk]]) 15:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC) == Removal of an edit == @[[User:Certes|Certes]] Hello sir, sorry i'm not very familiar with wiki, i just wanna know if it is you who removed the edit i came up with? if so, could you explain to me why? ive seen that wp:dubmantion which seems to lack in my edit but i don't know what it is. Thanks for the reply. [[User:Cur53d Jungl3r|Cur53d Jungl3r]] ([[User talk:Cur53d Jungl3r|talk]]) 21:52, 1 August 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Cur53d Jungl3r}} Yes, I [[WP:revert|revert]]ed the edit. [[727]] is a [[WP:disambiguation page|disambiguation page]] which lists topics referred to by the term "727" covered on Wikipedia, such as the [[Boeing 727]] airliner and the year [[AD 727]]. [[Osu!]] is not referred to as "727" – the number is not even [[WP:DABMENTION|mentioned]] in that article – and so ''Osu!'' should not be listed on the [[727]] page. Several other editors seem to have reached the same conclusion, as similar edits have been removed repeatedly. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 22:02, 1 August 2022 (UTC) == Guido Chigi Saracini == Hi, Certes, Thanks for your edit seeking to clarify the use of the word "Madonna" in [[Guido Chigi Saracini|this article]]. I have just changed the text again slightly, not in purpose to override your edit, but because the "Lauda" written by Chigi Saracini to the "Madonna of Pancole" is clearly in praise of [[Our Lady of Providence]] herself, as worshipped at her sanctuary in Pancole, and not in praise of any one particular image. As I find there is an article on O.L.o.P., it seems better to link to that. Hope you approve... best wishes, [[User:Eebahgum|Eebahgum]] ([[User talk:Eebahgum|talk]]) 08:55, 10 August 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Eebahgum}} You're welcome. I'm not a subject expert and I agree that the link I made could be improved further; I just wanted a target that wasn't the pop star! It's a common confusion: [[Talk:Madonna/Archive_23#Requested_move_23_July_2022|a recent RM]] tried to clarify things by using a dab, and we have [[WP:BPAT|a whole project]] devoted to making similar improvements. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes#top|talk]]) 09:57, 10 August 2022 (UTC) ::Haha! I see. I had overlooked that dimension! 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