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article</span></li> <li><span title="Cette page n&#39;existe pas">Lumière sur</span></li> <li><span title="Cette page n&#39;existe pas">À faire</span></li> <li><span title="Cette page n&#39;existe pas">Archives</span></li> <li><span title="Cette page n&#39;existe pas">Commons</span></li></ul></div> </div><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="fr" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nom_du_mod\u00e8le-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z-Nom_du_mod\u00e8le&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nom du mod\u00e8le&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nom du mod\u00e8le&quot;}--><h2 id="Nom_du_modèle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nom_du_modèle-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z"><span id="Nom_du_mod.C3.A8le"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nom_du_modèle-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z"></span>Nom du modèle<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nom_du_modèle-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussion_mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnelle&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Modifier le code source de la section : Nom du modèle"><span>modifier le code</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nom_du_mod\u00e8le-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z-Nom_du_mod\u00e8le"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:30:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z","timestamp":"2010-11-24T13:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nom_du_mod\u00e8le-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z-Nom_du_mod\u00e8le&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nom du mod\u00e8le&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nom du mod\u00e8le&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z-Nom_du_modèle"></span>Ce modèle devrait s'appeler <a href="/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnelle" title="Modèle:Infobox/Ligne optionnelle">{{Infobox/Ligne optionnelle}}</a> et non <a href="/w/index.php?title=Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnel&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Modèle:Infobox/Ligne optionnel (page inexistante)">{{Infobox/Ligne optionnel}}</a>. --<a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Piglop" title="Utilisateur:Piglop">Piglop</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Piglop" title="Discussion utilisateur:Piglop">d</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnelle#c-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z-Nom_du_modèle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 octobre 2010 à 19:16 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z-Nom_du_modèle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z","author":"Piglop","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z-Nom_du_mod\u00e8le","replies":["c-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z-Nom_du_modèle"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z"></span>J'y avais pensé au moment de la création des modèles, mais j'ai préféré un genre unique pour la totalité afin de rendre plus compréhensible l'usage des modèles et leur interaction. amicalement--<a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Wikialine" title="Utilisateur:Wikialine">Wikialine</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Wikialine" title="Discussion utilisateur:Wikialine">d</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnelle#c-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 octobre 2010 à 20:16 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z","author":"Wikialine","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-10-18T17:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z"></span>Je suis d'accord avec Piglop, je trouve que ce nom est déroutant... J'ai créé une redirection, <s>mais on pourrait même envisager un renommage</s>. Après réflexion, il est vrai que le choix de Wikialine présente une certaine cohérence. Je ne vois pas trop comment on pourrait faire pour améliorer les noms. <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Od1n" title="Utilisateur:Od1n">od†n</a> <small><sup>[<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Od1n" title="Discussion utilisateur:Od1n">dead words</a>]</sup></small> <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnelle#c-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">8 novembre 2010 à 11:36 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z","author":"Od1n","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z"],"displayName":"od\u2020n"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z-Wikialine-2010-10-18T18:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z"></span>Je ne vois pas ce que ça apporte. Si on met les choses en français autant respecter la grammaire française. Surtout qu'il n'y a aucune contrainte technique. --<a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Piglop" title="Utilisateur:Piglop">Piglop</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Piglop" title="Discussion utilisateur:Piglop">d</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnelle#c-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 novembre 2010 à 14:02 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z","author":"Piglop","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-08T10:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z"></span>On va juste imposer côté serveur le traitement d'une redirection de modèle à l'utilité technique nulle. je comprends bien qu'on trouve le nom initial du modèle très maladroitement choisi, mais ce qui est fait est fait et il y a franchement d'autres priorités, à commencer par le contenu des articles. Un rappel: le nom d'un modèle n'est pas du contenu. Cordialement, --<a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Lgd" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Lgd">Lgd</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Lgd" title="Discussion utilisateur:Lgd">d</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnelle#c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 novembre 2010 à 14:08 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z","author":"Lgd","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z-Piglop-2010-11-24T13:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z"></span>Le problème est surtout que ça créerait encore plus de confusion... on aurait une profusion de « optionnel », « optionnelle » et même « optionnelles ». Et on s'emmêlerait les pinceaux, du genre « Ligne mixte site web optionnel(le) ça s'accorde avec quoi déjà », <abbr class="abbr" title="et cetera">etc.</abbr> Une autre approche, <i>peut-être</i> meilleure, <i>peut-être</i> pas, aurait été d'utiliser un ordre différent pour les termes : « ligne optionnelle truc ». Cordialement, <span class="romain"><a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Od1n" title="Utilisateur:Od1n">od†n</a></span> <small><sup>[<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Od1n" title="Discussion utilisateur:Od1n">dead words</a>]</sup></small> <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnelle#c-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 novembre 2010 à 14:21 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Od1n","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:30:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z"],"displayName":"od\u2020n"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:30:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z"></span>C'est une vieille histoire typiquement wikipédienne, mais en fait, ces briques d'infobox sont assez maladroitement faites (beaucoup trop nombreuses, pour commencer). Un bon nommage reposerait d'abord sur une architecture de templates plus pertinente. Ici, ces modèles ont déjà l'immense mérite d'exister et de fonctionner : le tout est de ne pas aller les alambiquer pour des questions de qualité qui sont très au-delà de leur niveau actuel. Cordialement, --<a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Lgd" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Lgd">Lgd</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Lgd" title="Discussion utilisateur:Lgd">d</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_mod%C3%A8le:Infobox/Ligne_optionnelle#c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:30:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 novembre 2010 à 14:30 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:30:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-24T13:30:00.000Z","author":"Lgd","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:30:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lgd-2010-11-24T13:30:00.000Z-Od1n-2010-11-24T13:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐57488d5c7d‐xqx8d Cached time: 20241128012322 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.012 seconds CPU time usage: 0.026 seconds Real time usage: 0.041 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 93/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 438/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 157/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 4/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 8/5000000 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 7.283 1 -total 52.18% 3.800 1 Modèle:Etc. 45.09% 3.284 2 Modèle:M 26.34% 1.918 1 Modèle:Abréviation_discrète --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key frwiki:pcache:idhash:5031298-0!canonical and timestamp 20241128012322 and revision id 62087859. 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