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id="c-Quarante-quatre-20231204071800-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills"></span>28 décembre 2023 à 11:45:53 : <b>il est maintenant possible de clore la proposition.</b> En analysant 3 avis modélisés, le bot a estimé une décision <span style="color:green">d'acceptation</span>, sous réserve d'un sourçage certifié (100%). Pour notifier les participants : <code>{{Notif|Quarante-quatre|Borvan53|Fanfwah}}</code> <span id="ID_22879"></span> </p> <i><div style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background: #f9fcf9; margin-right: .5em; padding: 6px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Validée" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> Proposition validée. </span>L’anecdote qui suit, proposée par <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Quarante-quatre" title="Utilisateur:Quarante-quatre">Quarante-quatre</a> le 2023-12-04 08:18:00, a été certifiée par <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Bertrouf" title="Utilisateur:Bertrouf">Bertrouf</a> au niveau d'une source directe et validée par <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Loxyger" title="Utilisateur:Loxyger">Loxyger</a>. Elle va être déplacée sur la <a href="/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:LSVAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:LSVAP">page de préparation des publications</a>, pour être ensuite insérée automatiquement sur la page d’accueil le 09.03.2024 (la veille de la <abbr class="abbr" title="Quatre-vingt-seizième (nonante-sixième)">96<sup>e</sup></abbr> cérémonie des Oscars) :</div></i> <ul><li>Seuls trois films ont reçu 11 <b><a href="/wiki/Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma" title="Oscars du cinéma">Oscars</a></b>, le maximum à l'heure actuelle : <i><a href="/wiki/Ben-Hur_(film,_1959)" title="Ben-Hur (film, 1959)">Ben Hur</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Titanic_(film,_1997)" title="Titanic (film, 1997)">Titanic</a></i> et <i><a href="/wiki/Le_Seigneur_des_anneaux_:_Le_Retour_du_roi" title="Le Seigneur des anneaux : Le Retour du roi">Le Seigneur des anneaux : Le Retour du roi</a></i>.</li></ul> <div class="clear" style="clear:both;"></div><p><br/> </p><div class="notheme" style="margin-top:1em; margin-bottom:1em; background-color:#F5FAFF;border-collapse:collapse; border-style:solid; border-color: #A7D7F9; border-width:1px;border-radius:0.5em;"><div style="border-style:solid; border-color: #A7D7F9; border-width:0px 0px 1px 0px;border-top-left-radius:0.5em; border-top-right-radius:0.5em;"><table style="width:100%; border-style:none; border-collapse:collapse; padding:0px;margin:0; vertical-align:middle;"><tbody><tr><th style="border-style:none; padding:0.2em; text-align:left;">La ou les anecdotes suivantes ont déjà été proposées et possèdent des similarités (surtout au niveau des termes utilisés). <a href="/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:NHP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:NHP">N'hésitez pas</a> à supprimer ce bloc si les sujets sont vraiment différents.</th></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="padding:0.4em;"> <p>Proposée par Quarante-quatre le 22 novembre 2023, et <a href="#ID_22840">toujours en discussion</a> sur cette page. [indice de similitude 10/10]: </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Bernard_Hill" title="Bernard Hill">Bernard Hill</a></b> est le seul acteur a avoir joué dans deux des trois films qui ont reçu 11 <a href="/wiki/Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma" title="Oscars du cinéma">Oscars</a>, le maximum à l'heure actuelle : <i><a href="/wiki/Titanic_(film,_1997)" title="Titanic (film, 1997)">Titanic</a></i> et <i><a href="/wiki/Le_Seigneur_des_anneaux_:_Le_Retour_du_roi" title="Le Seigneur des anneaux : Le Retour du roi">Le Seigneur des anneaux : Le Retour du roi</a></i>, le troisième étant <i><a href="/wiki/Ben-Hur_(film,_1959)" title="Ben-Hur (film, 1959)">Ben Hur</a></i>.<div class="clear" style="clear:both;"></div></li></ul> <hr/> <p><span style="margin:0;background: #E5F6FF;padding:5px;color:#000">Proposée par SenseiAC le 19 novembre 2020, et publiée le 01 mars 2021.</span> [indice de similitude 5.9/10]: </p> <ul><li><i><b><a href="/wiki/Film_(film)" class="mw-redirect" title="Film (film)">Film</a></b></i> en est <a href="/wiki/Film_(cin%C3%A9ma)" title="Film (cinéma)">un</a>.<div class="clear" style="clear:both;"></div></li></ul> </div><div style="padding:0.2em; border-style:solid; border-color: #A7D7F9; border-width:1px 0px 0px 0px;border-bottom-left-radius:0.5em; border-bottom-right-radius:0.5em;"><small>Temps d'exécution total : 1 sec (détails : travail du bot: 1 sec, lecture des anecdotes en base: 95 millisecondes) </small></div></div> <p>Proposant : <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Quarante-quatre" title="Utilisateur:Quarante-quatre">Quarante-quatre</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Quarante-quatre" title="Discussion utilisateur:Quarante-quatre">discuter</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma/LSV_22879#c-Quarante-quatre-20231204071800-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 décembre 2023 à 08:18 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quarante-quatre-20231204071800-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231204071800","author":"Quarante-quatre","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Quarante-quatre-20231204071800-S\u00e9parations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quarante-quatre-20231204071800-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills"></span> </p><p><u><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cbigorgne-20231206064300-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills"></span>Discussion :</u><br/> NB: C'est une séparation en deux de mon anecdote sur Bernards Hills suivant les recommendations en commentaire : <a class="external free" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_saviez-vous_%3F/Anecdotes_propos%C3%A9es#O%C3%B9_%C3%A9tait_Bernard_Hill_quand_l'Ouestfold_est_tomb%C3%A9_">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_saviez-vous_%3F/Anecdotes_propos%C3%A9es#O%C3%B9_%C3%A9tait_Bernard_Hill_quand_l'Ouestfold_est_tomb%C3%A9_</a>? </p> <dl><dd>Une question de grammaire : ne faudrait-il pas mettre un pluriel à seul : <dl><dd><b>Seuls</b> trois films ont reçu 11 <b><a href="/wiki/Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma" title="Oscars du cinéma">Oscars</a></b>, le maximum à l'heure actuelle : <i><a href="/wiki/Ben-Hur_(film,_1959)" title="Ben-Hur (film, 1959)">Ben Hur</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Titanic_(film,_1997)" title="Titanic (film, 1997)">Titanic</a></i> et <i><a href="/wiki/Le_Seigneur_des_anneaux_:_Le_Retour_du_roi" title="Le Seigneur des anneaux : Le Retour du roi">Le Seigneur des anneaux : Le Retour du roi</a></i> ?</dd></dl></dd> <dd>-- <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Cbigorgne" title="Utilisateur:Cbigorgne">Cbigorgne</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Cbigorgne" title="Discussion utilisateur:Cbigorgne">discuter</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma/LSV_22879#c-Cbigorgne-20231206064300-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 décembre 2023 à 07:43 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cbigorgne-20231206064300-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231206064300","author":"Cbigorgne","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cbigorgne-20231206064300-S\u00e9parations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cbigorgne-20231206064300-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Olinone-20231206162900-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills"></span>Anecdote intéressante, mais attention : les sources sont peu explicites. Divers articles de WP mentionnent des palmarès où apparaissent bien ces trois films avec onze oscars, mais, sauf erreur de ma part, aucune source n'est attachée à ces tableaux récapitulatifs: à vérifier donc, et ajouter si possible.--<a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Olinone" title="Utilisateur:Olinone">Olinone</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Olinone" title="Discussion utilisateur:Olinone">discuter</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma/LSV_22879#c-Olinone-20231206162900-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 décembre 2023 à 17:29 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Olinone-20231206162900-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231206162900","author":"Olinone","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Olinone-20231206162900-S\u00e9parations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills","replies":["c-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400-Olinone-20231206162900","c-Bertrouf-20231208130600-Olinone-20231206162900","c-Borvan53-20231218092800-Olinone-20231206162900","c-Fanfwah-20231223013800-Olinone-20231206162900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Olinone-20231206162900-Séparations_de_l'anecdote_sur_Bernards_Hills"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400-Olinone-20231206162900"></span>Je sais pas si ce lien convient : <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies">https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies</a></dd> <dd>Il n'affiche pas tout sur la même page, il faut naviguer dans chaque menus, pour ensuite resgarder chaques Oscar pour chaque catégorie. <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Quarante-quatre" title="Utilisateur:Quarante-quatre">Quarante-quatre</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Quarante-quatre" title="Discussion utilisateur:Quarante-quatre">discuter</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma/LSV_22879#c-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400-Olinone-20231206162900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">7 décembre 2023 à 03:44 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400-Olinone-20231206162900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231207024400","author":"Quarante-quatre","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400-Olinone-20231206162900","replies":["c-Olinone-20231207072000-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400-Olinone-20231206162900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Olinone-20231207072000-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400"></span>C'est encore un peu fragile : le lecteur doit faire lui-même une recherche et une synthèse pour arriver à la conclusion. Mais un des principes de WP est de présumer la bonne foi : donc , pour moi, c'est bon...mais des "puristes" pourraient être d'un avis différent! Cdlt. <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Olinone" title="Utilisateur:Olinone">Olinone</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Olinone" title="Discussion utilisateur:Olinone">discuter</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma/LSV_22879#c-Olinone-20231207072000-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">7 décembre 2023 à 08:20 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Olinone-20231207072000-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231207072000","author":"Olinone","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Olinone-20231207072000-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Olinone-20231207072000-Quarante-quatre-20231207024400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://fr.statista.com/statistiques/664523/films-recompenses-oscars-nombre-monde/"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bertrouf-20231208130600-Olinone-20231206162900"></span>https://fr.statista.com/statistiques/664523/films-recompenses-oscars-nombre-monde/</a> facile ! <sub><a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Bertrouf" title="Utilisateur:Bertrouf">B<font color="black">ertr</font>ouf</a></sub> <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma/LSV_22879#c-Bertrouf-20231208130600-Olinone-20231206162900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">8 décembre 2023 à 14:06 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bertrouf-20231208130600-Olinone-20231206162900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231208130600","author":"Bertrouf","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bertrouf-20231208130600-Olinone-20231206162900","replies":["c-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700-Bertrouf-20231208130600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bertrouf-20231208130600-Olinone-20231206162900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700-Bertrouf-20231208130600"></span>Merci ! J'ai ajouté la source du coup :) <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Quarante-quatre" title="Utilisateur:Quarante-quatre">Quarante-quatre</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Quarante-quatre" title="Discussion utilisateur:Quarante-quatre">discuter</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma/LSV_22879#c-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700-Bertrouf-20231208130600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 décembre 2023 à 15:47 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700-Bertrouf-20231208130600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231212144700","author":"Quarante-quatre","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700-Bertrouf-20231208130600","replies":["c-Bertrouf-20231213103500-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700-Bertrouf-20231208130600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bertrouf-20231213103500-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700"></span>Alors je peux certifier. <sub><a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Bertrouf" title="Utilisateur:Bertrouf">B<font color="black">ertr</font>ouf</a></sub> <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma/LSV_22879#c-Bertrouf-20231213103500-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 décembre 2023 à 11:35 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bertrouf-20231213103500-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231213103500","author":"Bertrouf","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Bertrouf-20231213103500-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bertrouf-20231213103500-Quarante-quatre-20231212144700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Borvan53-20231218092800-Olinone-20231206162900"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fichier:Symbol_confirmed.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Oui."><img alt="Oui." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/16px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/24px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/32px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Je ne retrouve pas le débat de séparation en deux de l'anecdote sur Bernards Hills. Mais l'anecdote me semble bien ficelée. <a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Borvan53" title="Utilisateur:Borvan53">Borvan53</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Borvan53" title="Discussion utilisateur:Borvan53">discuter</a>) <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Oscars_du_cin%C3%A9ma/LSV_22879#c-Borvan53-20231218092800-Olinone-20231206162900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 décembre 2023 à 10:28 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Borvan53-20231218092800-Olinone-20231206162900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">répondre</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231218092800","author":"Borvan53","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Borvan53-20231218092800-Olinone-20231206162900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Borvan53-20231218092800-Olinone-20231206162900"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fanfwah-20231223013800-Olinone-20231206162900"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fichier:Symbol_confirmed.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Oui."><img alt="Oui." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/16px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/24px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/32px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> D'accord mais à condition de la publier avant l'autre, sinon doublon ! --<a href="/wiki/Utilisateur:Fanfwah" title="Utilisateur:Fanfwah">Fanfwah</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Fanfwah" title="Discussion 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