1 px line on top of every image pasted into Firefox from paint.net - Troubleshooting & Bug Reports

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When I select an image from paint.net selection tool then copy it on firefox on whatsapp web or google docs, there's a 1 pixel line on top of the image: The line gets literally incorporated into the image. If I download the image, the black line is on top of it replacing th..."> <meta property="og:description" content="That's a very odd bug. When I select an image from paint.net selection tool then copy it on firefox on whatsapp web or google docs, there's a 1 pixel line on top of the image: The line gets literally incorporated into the image. 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When I select an image from <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://paint.net" rel="external nofollow">paint.net</a> selection tool then copy it on firefox on whatsapp web or google docs, there's a 1 pixel line on top of the image:</p> <p><img class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" data-fileid="24943" data-ratio="71.36" width="391" alt="3yofmlah6sgc1.webp.8ad0d8498c595c60ed59c7386ee5fb04.webp" src="//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2024_02/3yofmlah6sgc1.webp.8ad0d8498c595c60ed59c7386ee5fb04.webp"></p> <p>The line gets literally incorporated into the image. If I download the image, the black line is on top of it replacing the first row of pixels.</p> <p>This does not occur on Edge, and it also does not occur when I try to paste something from other image editors, like mspaint. 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</div> <div class="cPost_contentWrap"> <div data-role="commentContent" class="ipsType_normal ipsType_richText ipsPadding_bottom ipsContained" data-controller="core.front.core.lightboxedImages"> <p>In <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1436969" rel="external nofollow">https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1436969, </a> paulgibbs111 says it's a firefox bug.</p> <p><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1436969" rel="external nofollow">I</a>n <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://github.com/graphics32/graphics32/issues/257" rel="external nofollow">https://github.com/graphics32/graphics32/issues/257, </a>rickbrewsays it's a paint.net bug.</p> <p>Rick said it was fixed in 5.0.8, but I'm in 5.0.12 and getting the same glitch.</p> <p>What now? 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data-role="commentContent" class="ipsType_normal ipsType_richText ipsPadding_bottom ipsContained" data-controller="core.front.core.lightboxedImages"> <p><a contenteditable="false" data-ipshover="" data-ipshover-target="https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/?do=hovercard" data-mentionid="176279" href="https://forums-getpaint-net.translate.goog/profile/176279-marvin321/?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl" id="ips_uid_2173_10" rel="">@Marvin321</a> There are lots of references to this already: <a href="https://forums-getpaint-net.translate.goog/topic/124444-screenshots-are-corruptedshifted-when-pasting-from-paintnet-into-firefox?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl" rel="">https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124444-screenshots-are-corruptedshifted-when-pasting-from-paintnet-into-firefox</a><br type="_moz"><br> It's a Firefox issue.<br><br>  </p> <blockquote class="ipsQuote" data-gramm="false" data-ipsquote="" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" 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Is there a solution?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br> Until this is fixed in Firefox, your options are to:<br><br> 1. Save the image as a .png and upload that file via Firefox to WhatsApp Web or Google Docs (or wherever).<br> or<br> 2. Copy from paint.net, paste into IrfanView or MS Paint. 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<time datetime="2024-02-05T18:43:31Z" title="02/05/2024 06:43 PM" data-short="Feb 5">February 5</time> <span class="ipsResponsive_hidePhone"> (edited) </span> </div> </div> <div class="cPost_contentWrap"> <div data-role="commentContent" class="ipsType_normal ipsType_richText ipsPadding_bottom ipsContained" data-controller="core.front.core.lightboxedImages"> <p>Thanks for your response.</p> <p>That's an unpleasant situation, because <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id%3D1866655" rel="external nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1866655</a> says paint.net is faulty on that one. 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ipsPadding_bottom ipsContained" data-controller="core.front.core.lightboxedImages"> <p>Here:</p><iframe allowfullscreen data-controller="core.front.core.autosizeiframe" data-embedauthorid="174923" data-embedcontent="" data-embedid="embed1236415075" src="https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/123169-copypaste-image-offset-three-pixels-when-pasted-into-paint-tool-sai/page/2/?do=embed" style="height:394px;max-width:502px;"></iframe> <p>Ok it looks like paint.net doesn't want to add the default 12 bytes header on DIBV5. Just why not?</p> <p>BoltBait said "Just because a bunch of software does it, doesn't make it right."</p> <p> </p> <p>I mean who cares if it is right or not, at least it works for everyone. I do not see firefox solving this issue soon because they just won't care enough, so why can't paintnet add these 12 bytes and call it a go? Problem is fixed.</p> <p>It is like "Ok, if you won't fix it on your side, let me fix it myself for the sake of the users". 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data-gramm="false"> <p>because <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id%3D1866655" rel="external nofollow" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1866655</a> says paint.net is faulty on that one</p> </div> </blockquote> <p> </p> <p>That is <em>not</em> the conclusion in the bug report.</p> <p> </p> <blockquote class="ipsQuote" data-gramm="false" data-ipsquote="" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic" data-ipsquote-contentcommentid="621211" data-ipsquote-contentid="124628" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-timestamp="1707158611" data-ipsquote-userid="176279" data-ipsquote-username="Marvin321"> <div class="ipsQuote_citation"> 22 minutes ago, Marvin321 said: </div> <div class="ipsQuote_contents ipsClearfix" data-gramm="false"> <p>The bug is 2 months old and we got no fix yet <span><img alt=":/" data-emoticon="" height="15" 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I'm going to assume this unless proven otherwise, such as via an in-depth technical discussion <em>by experts </em>here at <a href="https://forums-getpaint-net.translate.goog/topic/122848-pasting-dibv5-image/?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl" ipsnoembed="true" rel="">https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/122848-pasting-dibv5-image/</a>)</li> <li>Apps have varying degrees of buggy ways of copying <i>and pasting </i>DIBV5s</li> <li>DIBV5 is supposed to be a simple format, but it isn't due to how it's evolved over the last ~30 years <em>and</em> its poor documentation/specification</li> <li>This led to DIBV5 essentially being an ambiguously defined format due to both its buggy specification <em>and</em> inconsistent implementations across many, many apps</li> <li>PNG does not have any of these issues and is far superior in all ways except for encoding performance (i.o.w. how long it takes to copy it to the clipboard). This could probably be rectified if we got a PNG library with a "super fast compression" mode (which may already exist, although WIC certainly doesn't support that unfortunately).</li> <li>Therefore, if a PNG is on the clipboard alongside the DIBv5, <em>just use the PNG</em>. All this pain would be avoided if Firefox and Paint Tool SAI would just do that.</li> </ol> <p> </p> <p>DIBV5 should be considered a legacy clipboard format at this point, only included for the sake of apps that don't (yet) handle PNG. No matter what changes I make to the DIBV5 clipboard copy/paste code, it's guaranteed that a bunch of other apps will either 1) not copy its data to the clipboard correctly such that PDN will handle it, or 2) not read PDN's DIBV5 from the clipboard correctly. This is what happens Every. Single. Time. I. Have. Ever. Changed. The. Clipboard. Code. It is not possible to get 100% compatibility between all apps. 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It helped me to understand the issue better.</p> <p>I got another question if you don't mind answering: If DIBV5 is that problematic, then why keep it? Even mspaint doesn't use it anymore. Haven't apps moved to png yet in all these years? Firefox does give preference to DIBV5 over PNG for some reason, but it certainly accepts PNG. 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data-ipsquote-username="Marvin321"> <div class="ipsQuote_citation"> 8 minutes ago, Marvin321 said: </div> <div class="ipsQuote_contents ipsClearfix" data-gramm="false"> <p>If DIBV5 is that problematic, then why keep it?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p> </p> <p>Because DIB(non-V5) doesn't support transparency, and not all apps handle PNG. When I say "it's a legacy format" I mean that we shouldn't be shedding blood and tears over getting it right, we should just consider it to be a lost cause and accept it how it is, <em>and</em> encourage other apps to support and prefer PNG.</p> <p> </p> <p>You could also say that cash is legacy and problematic compared to debit/credit cards. Why keep using it then? Because it's still useful for a variety of reasons, and we're not yet to the point where we can just <em>stop. </em>And maybe we'll never reach that point, either for DIBV5 or cash, and that's something we have to accept. It's not a lost cause, we can still improve the state of the world with respect to either, but there will always be some app that someone wants to use that only supports DIB/DIBV5, just like there will always be someone out there who only has cash or some merchant who isn't willing/able to handle cards. 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just searched the Firefox source for CF_DIBV5, BITMAPV4HEADER and BITMAPV5HEADER in order to find out how they handle DIBs - and now I need to book an appointment with my therapist...</p> <p> </p> <p>As far as I can tell Firefox has used the renowned method of rolling a dice to decide what method to use when reading/writing V4/V5 bitmaps. In most places the DIB data <strong>does not</strong> contain the extra three color masks, but in a few places it does, and in one gloriously stupid case, <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/e7e2b1612b677b21c3cf38816b89779270d9b463/widget/windows/WinUtils.cpp%23L1314" rel="external nofollow">when writing a bitmap file</a>, the masks are included but only if the data is specified as having alpha. 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practical solution might be to write a little program that implements something called a <em>clipboard hook</em>. Basically it gets notified whenever the clipboard changes. 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I can't remember which it is.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Edit:</strong> I see that I already mentioned this in the original thread:</p><iframe allowfullscreen data-controller="core.front.core.autosizeiframe" data-embedauthorid="174542" data-embedcontent="" data-embedid="embed3370332157" src="https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/122848-pasting-dibv5-image/?do=embed&comment=610922&embedComment=610922&embedDo=findComment" style="height:298px;max-width:502px;"></iframe> <p>The comment that mentions the clipboard bugs predates Windows 10 so I probably discovered them in Windows 7 (I only upgraded from Win7 to Win10 a few months ago).</p><span class="ipsType_reset ipsType_medium ipsType_light" data-excludequote> <strong>Edited <time datetime="2024-02-05T22:09:07Z" title="02/05/2024 10:09 PM" data-short="Feb 5">February 5</time> by AndersM</strong> </span> </div> <div class="ipsItemControls"> <div data-controller="core.front.core.reaction" class="ipsItemControls_right ipsClearfix "> <div 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seems I have to concede defeat on this issue. I was wrong.</p> <p> </p> <p>I noticed that the <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/gdi/bitmap-header-types" rel="external nofollow">MSDN documentation</a> on bitmap headers has once again been rephrased and now reads:</p> <blockquote class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote=""> <div class="ipsQuote_citation"> Quote </div> <div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p>The red, green, and blue bitfield masks for BI_BITFIELD bitmaps immediately follow the <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wingdi/ns-wingdi-bitmapinfoheader" rel="external nofollow"><strong>BITMAPINFOHEADER</strong></a>, <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/api/Wingdi/ns-wingdi-bitmapv4header" rel="external nofollow"><strong>BITMAPV4HEADER</strong></a>, and <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/api/Wingdi/ns-wingdi-bitmapv5header" rel="external nofollow"><strong>BITMAPV5HEADER</strong></a> structures. The <strong>BITMAPV4HEADER</strong> and <strong>BITMAPV5HEADER</strong> structures contain additional members for red, green, and blue masks as follows. [...]</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>The text that follows shows evidence of having been copied from somewhere else (it makes reference to <em>the function</em> which has no meaning in that context) but regardless of that it doesn't really leave room for ambiguity; The color masks <strong>must</strong> follow BITMAPV5HEADER.</p> <p> </p> <p>Since MSDN nowadays is semi-community-edited I didn't take the above as definite proof (I've seen the documentation on this topic change back and forth so many times). Instead I decided to consult "the source" (I'll leave it to you to guess what "the source" is).</p> <p> </p> <p>So I now have it on good authority that the following is how the Windows clipboard calculates the size of a DIB (brought to you in beautiful Pascal):</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Size of the color table</strong></p> <pre class="ipsCode">if (BitmapInfoHeader.biCompression = BI_RGB) then begin if (BitmapInfoHeader.biClrUsed) then ColorTableSize := BitmapInfoHeader.biClrUsed * SizeOf(DWORD) else if (BitmapInfoHeader.biBitCount <= 8) then ColorTableSize := (1 shl BitmapInfoHeader.biBitCount) * SizeOf(RGBQUAD) else ColorTableSize := 0; end else if (BitmapInfoHeader.biCompression = BI_BITFIELDS) then begin if (BitmapInfoHeader.biBitCount = 16) or (BitmapInfoHeader.biBitCount = 32) then ColorTableSize := 3 * SizeOf(DWORD) else ColorTableSize := 0; end else if (BitmapInfoHeader.biCompression = BI_RLE4) { ColorTableSize := 16 * SizeOf(DWORD) else if (BitmapInfoHeader.biCompression = BI_RLE8) { ColorTableSize := 256 * SizeOf(DWORD) else ColorTableSize := 0;</pre> <p> </p> <p><strong>Size of the pixel data</strong></p> <pre class="ipsCode">PixelDataSize := (((BitmapInfoheader.biWidth * BitmapInfoheader.biBitCount + 31) and not 31) shr 3) * Abs(BitmapInfoheader.biHeight); // 32 bit aligned </pre> <p> </p> <p><strong>Size of DIB</strong></p> <pre class="ipsCode">DIBSize := BitmapInfoHeader.biSize + ColorTableSize + PixelDataSize;</pre> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p>Notes:</p> <ul> <li>The above only applies for (BitmapInfoHeader.biSize >= SizeOf(BITMAPINFOHEADER)).<br> The rules for BITMAPCOREHEADER (i.e an OS/2 DIB) are different.<br>  </li> <li>For BITMAPV5HEADER, when writing DIBs, the header color masks are duplicated into the color table.<br> This is a <em>requirement</em> but I guess it's a good idea since we don't know which of the two set of masks the reader will use.<br>  </li> </ul> <p>My guess regarding the cause of this mess is that the DIB spec, internally at Microsoft, has evolved through time from the masks originally being included in the header to them being excluded because that was how <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_deviance" rel="external nofollow">most people implemented it</a>.<br> This would explain the ever changing documentation and the fact that different Microsoft tools has implemented different formats - and in the case of the clipboard, different formats within the same code. 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data-ipsquote-username="AndersM"> <div class="ipsQuote_citation"> 1 hour ago, AndersM said: </div> <div class="ipsQuote_contents ipsClearfix" data-gramm="false"> <p>I noticed that the <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/gdi/bitmap-header-types" rel="external nofollow" target="_blank">MSDN documentation</a> on bitmap headers has once again been rephrased and now reads:</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>It doesn't look like it's actually be edited, there's just a bunch of commits for infra stuff: <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=pl&tl=en&hl=pl&u=https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/win32/commits/docs/desktop-src/gdi/bitmap-header-types.md" ipsnoembed="true" rel="external nofollow">https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/win32/commits/docs/desktop-src/gdi/bitmap-header-types.md</a></p> <p> </p> <p>The documentation for BITMAPV5HEADER still states, in several different ways (but of course never really <em>directly</em> saying it) that this is not the way it should be done. It does say that <strong>bV5ClrUsed</strong> can be non-zero for a 32-bpp DIB, but that those color values are to be used for some kind of palette optimization (obviously a legacy consideration at this point).</p> <p> </p> <p>It also has a nonsensical explanation for how color profiles should be encoded (3rd paragraph in Remarks) ... I actually implemented color profiles support in the v5.1 codebase for BMP files as part of the color management feature work, but it's disabled because that's a Pandora's box I'm not willing to open yet.</p> <p> </p> <p>And yet, as you point out, the Bitmap Header Types page does explicitly say that there should be 3 color mask values <em>in addition to </em>the embedded color mask values (<b>bV5RedMask</b> et. al.).</p> <p> </p> <p>I'm still not convinced that the 2nd copy of the masks is <em>supposed </em>to be there, other than the "normalization of deviancy" Wikipedia link you provided -- in other words, the spec is <em>de facto</em> the implementation, which was accidentally crowdsourced out to every application or library that handles DIBV5s. And everyone got it wrong in a multitude of different ways and we just have to deal with it now.</p> <p> </p> <p>So we must find a way to unambiguously encode and decode in a way that achieves maximum compatibility.</p> <p> </p> <p>At least for decoding you can look at the total size of the payload (header + bitmap + anything else) -- if there's an extra 12 bytes then assume that the 3 masks are there, otherwise they're not. Easy enough. On the Paint.NET side I haven't been seeing any issues here, so my code for that seems to be working (knock on wood).</p> <p> </p> <p>Encoding is another matter because then you're contending with the decoding implementation <em>of every other app</em>. That's currently where the trouble is. And there isn't really a good unit test for this because it would require obtaining all of those other apps, something I am not interested in paying for or dealing with. At least for now we can probably focus on Chrome, Firefox, Office (Word, etc.), GIMP, Krita, mspaint, and any other popular free(ware) software.</p> <p> </p> <p>I'll reopen the issue over on GitHub and poke into this some more for the 5.0.13 servicing release. It sounds like what you're saying is that the fix is to add in the 3 masks. 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<time datetime="2024-02-06T18:35:59Z" title="02/06/2024 06:35 PM" data-short="Feb 6">February 6</time> <span class="ipsResponsive_hidePhone"> </span> </div> </div> <div class="cPost_contentWrap"> <div data-role="commentContent" class="ipsType_normal ipsType_richText ipsPadding_bottom ipsContained" data-controller="core.front.core.lightboxedImages"> <p>I've had an idea and hope it might be useful to you.</p> <p>What if Rick adds an option somewhere in paint.net (interface or config files) so you can disable/enable DIBV5 format from the clipboard? That would be a workaround this Firefox issue, and if some incompatibility is noticed with other apps, just turn it back on.</p> </div> <div class="ipsItemControls"> <div data-controller="core.front.core.reaction" class="ipsItemControls_right ipsClearfix "> <div class="ipsReact ipsPos_right"> <div class="ipsReact_blurb ipsHide" data-role="reactionBlurb"> </div> </div> </div> <ul class="ipsComment_controls ipsClearfix ipsItemControls_left" data-role="commentControls"> <li data-ipsquote-editor="topic_comment" data-ipsquote-target="#comment-621421" class="ipsJS_show"><button class="ipsButton ipsButton_light ipsButton_verySmall ipsButton_narrow cMultiQuote ipsHide" data-action="multiQuoteComment" data-ipstooltip data-ipsquote-multiquote data-mqid="mq621421" title="MultiQuote"><i class="fa fa-plus"></i></button></li> <li data-ipsquote-editor="topic_comment" data-ipsquote-target="#comment-621421" class="ipsJS_show"><a 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issue over on GitHub and poke into this some more for the 5.0.13 servicing release. It sounds like what you're saying is that the fix is to add in the 3 masks. It may also make sense to just punt this over to WIC -- have it save a BMP to an in-memory stream, skip past the <strong>BITMAPFILEHEADER, </strong>and copy the remaining bytes to the clipboard.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p> </p> <p>I think I'm going crazy.</p> <p>As you've seen I have implemented the change in Graphics32 and closed the issue there.</p> <p>Since many of the bitmaps I used for unit testing were made under the old assumption I decided to regenerate all the bitmaps. And now that I had the bitmaps I thought I would see how Windows Paint handled them - and this is where things got really depressing.</p> <p> </p> <p>I've attached a zip with two 16x16x32bit bitmaps in v4 BI_BITFIELDS format. One with the color table and one without. The bitmaps look like this (in my own bitmap editor):</p> <p><img class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" data-fileid="24961" data-ratio="96.07" width="305" alt="image.png.998fc37930dcbbaafedf8387051fb8d9.png" src="//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2024_02/image.png.998fc37930dcbbaafedf8387051fb8d9.png"></p> <p>And this is what they look like in Paint when I load them from file:</p> <p><strong>bgra_v4_bottomup.bmp</strong> (with color table)</p> <p><img class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" data-fileid="24965" data-ratio="100.79" width="127" alt="image.png.6eaa3a94b1c4c0846fc9a6e3eb662c8a.png" src="//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2024_02/image.png.6eaa3a94b1c4c0846fc9a6e3eb662c8a.png"></p> <p><strong>bgra_v4_bottomup_missing_color_table.bmp</strong> (without color table)</p> <p><img class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" data-fileid="24964" data-ratio="100.79" width="127" alt="image.png.ae72c40881130f9dd19bcff2b7b5dfe5.png" src="//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2024_02/image.png.ae72c40881130f9dd19bcff2b7b5dfe5.png"></p> <p>Okay, I thought, I guess I was wrong about being wrong. But then I did a copy from my editor (which now produce CF_DIBV5 data <em>with</em> the color table) and pasted into Paint:</p> <p><img class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" data-fileid="24966" data-ratio="100.79" width="127" alt="image.png.2ef5efaed267b3befb14f986097d11bf.png" src="//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2024_02/image.png.2ef5efaed267b3befb14f986097d11bf.png"></p> <p>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻</p> <div> <div>   </div> </div> <p>Anyway, I'm too busy with work and stuff to get to the bottom of this right now but I just wanted to give you a heads up.</p> <p><a class="ipsAttachLink" href="https://forums-getpaint-net.translate.goog/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=24962&key=fa0052c8776338af3ef8f8a3d4fa2fd7&_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl" data-fileext="zip" data-fileid="24962" data-filekey="fa0052c8776338af3ef8f8a3d4fa2fd7">bgra_v4_bottomup.zip</a></p> </div> <div class="ipsItemControls"> <div data-controller="core.front.core.reaction" class="ipsItemControls_right ipsClearfix "> <div class="ipsReact ipsPos_right"> <div class="ipsReact_blurb " data-role="reactionBlurb"> <ul class="ipsReact_reactions"> <li class="ipsReact_reactCount"><span data-ipstooltip title="Upvote"> <span> <img src="//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/reactions/react_up.png" alt="Upvote" loading="lazy"> </span> <span> 1 </span> </span></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> <ul class="ipsComment_controls ipsClearfix ipsItemControls_left" data-role="commentControls"> <li data-ipsquote-editor="topic_comment" data-ipsquote-target="#comment-621543" class="ipsJS_show"><button class="ipsButton ipsButton_light ipsButton_verySmall ipsButton_narrow cMultiQuote ipsHide" data-action="multiQuoteComment" data-ipstooltip data-ipsquote-multiquote data-mqid="mq621543" title="MultiQuote"><i class="fa fa-plus"></i></button></li> <li data-ipsquote-editor="topic_comment" data-ipsquote-target="#comment-621543" class="ipsJS_show"><a href="https://forums-getpaint-net.translate.goog/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl#" data-action="quoteComment" data-ipsquote-singlequote>Quote</a></li> <li></li> <li class="ipsHide" data-role="commentLoading"><span class="ipsLoading ipsLoading_tiny ipsLoading_noAnim"></span></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </article><input type="hidden" name="csrfKey" value="2426aaa7c3d57a6768cfbcf7ad4ee2af"> </form> <script> // Add copy button to code blocks document.querySelectorAll("pre.ipsCode").forEach(preElement => { const copyButton = document.createElement("button"); 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When I select an image from paint.net selection tool then copy it on firefox on whatsapp web or google docs, there\u0027s a 1 pixel line on top of the image:\n \n\n\n\t\n \n\n\n\tThe line gets literally incorporated into the image. If I download the image, the black line is on top of it replacing the first row of pixels.\n \n\n\n\tThis does not occur on Edge, and it also does not occur when I try to paste something from other image editors, like mspaint. Firefox version is 122.0 and paint.net is 5.0.12 and Windows 11. This bug just won\u0027t occur if I don\u0027t use firefox or paint.net, and it only occurs when both are present. I have also posted this question on firefox support forum.\n \n\n\n\tBug is also present in my laptop with the same apps, so it\u0027s not exclusive to my computer.\n \n", "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T17:44:48+0000", "datePublished": "2024-02-05T17:44:48+0000", "dateModified": "2024-02-08T00:36:25+0000", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Marvin321", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/" }, "interactionStatistic": [ { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "http://schema.org/ViewAction", "userInteractionCount": 1535 }, { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "http://schema.org/CommentAction", "userInteractionCount": 35 }, { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "http://schema.org/FollowAction", "userInteractionCount": 2 } ], "@context": "http://schema.org", "@type": "DiscussionForumPosting", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/", "isPartOf": { "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/#website" }, "publisher": { "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/#organization", "member": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Marvin321", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/" } }, "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/", "discussionUrl": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/", "mainEntityOfPage": { "@type": "WebPage", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/" }, "pageStart": 1, "pageEnd": 2, "comment": [ { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621205", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621205", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "BoltBait", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2024_01/BoltBaitOrig.thumb.png.f8d44c5c542f3f7476560c2ff196831e.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44727-boltbait/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T17:55:53+0000", "text": "https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1436969\n \n", "upvoteCount": 1 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621208", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621208", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Marvin321", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T18:14:47+0000", "text": "In https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1436969, \u00a0paulgibbs111 says it\u0027s a firefox bug.\n \n\n\n\tIn https://github.com/graphics32/graphics32/issues/257, rickbrewsays it\u0027s a paint.net bug.\n \n\n\n\tRick said it was fixed in 5.0.8, but I\u0027m in 5.0.12 and getting the same glitch.\n \n\n\n\tWhat now? Is there a solution?\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621209", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621209", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Tactilis", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/162722-tactilis/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T18:27:16+0000", "text": "@Marvin321 There are lots of references to this already: https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124444-screenshots-are-corruptedshifted-when-pasting-from-paintnet-into-firefox\n\t \n\tIt\u0027s a Firefox issue. \n\t \n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\n\n\t \n\tUntil this is fixed in Firefox, your options are to: \n\t \n\t1. Save the image as a .png and upload that file via Firefox to WhatsApp Web or Google Docs (or wherever). \n\tor \n\t2. Copy from paint.net, paste into IrfanView or MS Paint. Copy from Irfanview/MS Paint and paste to Firefox. \n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621211", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621211", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Marvin321", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T18:43:31+0000", "text": "Thanks for your response.\n \n\n\n\tThat\u0027s an unpleasant situation, because https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1866655 says paint.net is faulty on that one. The bug is 2 months old and we got no fix yet \n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621214", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621214", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Marvin321", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:04:06+0000", "text": "Here:\n \n\n\n\n\tOk it looks like paint.net doesn\u0027t want to add the default 12 bytes header on DIBV5. Just why not?\n \n\n\n\tBoltBait said \"Just because a bunch of software does it, doesn\u0027t make it right.\"\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tI mean who cares if it is right or not, at least it works for everyone. I do not see firefox solving this issue soon because they just won\u0027t care enough, so why can\u0027t paintnet add these 12 bytes and call it a go? Problem is fixed.\n \n\n\n\tIt is like \"Ok, if you won\u0027t fix it on your side, let me fix it myself for the sake of the users\". Stuff like this occur every time and that\u0027s why open source projects have so many forks.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621215", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621215", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "toe_head2001", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2019_09/toehead2001avatar.thumb.png.a4930f97ec86509f8fffa0b5abd40f21.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/46943-toe_head2001/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:07:36+0000", "text": "That is not the conclusion in the bug report.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tI think it\u0027s safe to say a niche clipboard bug is not a top priority, so it may take some time for them to address it.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621217", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621217", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Marvin321", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:10:15+0000", "text": "I might have gotten it wrong because I don\u0027t know much about the problem/isn\u0027t used to that tech language that much. Sorry for that.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621218", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621218", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Rick Brewster", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2023_03/centeredPDN.thumb.png.3b0fb62cbbb3700ecfc2ebe3469b7e37.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44714-rick-brewster/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:12:39+0000", "text": "Because it\u0027s not supposed to be there\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621219", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621219", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Rick Brewster", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2023_03/centeredPDN.thumb.png.3b0fb62cbbb3700ecfc2ebe3469b7e37.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44714-rick-brewster/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:13:32+0000", "text": "Because Firefox should either 1) fix how they handle DIBV5, or -- even better -- 2) use the PNG which is placed at a higher priority in the clipboard, which sidesteps ALL of these issues.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621220", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621220", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Rick Brewster", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2023_03/centeredPDN.thumb.png.3b0fb62cbbb3700ecfc2ebe3469b7e37.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44714-rick-brewster/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:21:54+0000", "text": "Basically it\u0027s like this,\n \n\n\n\t\n\t\tPaint.NET is placing a correctly formed DIBV5 on the clipboard. I\u0027m going to assume this unless proven otherwise, such as via an in-depth technical discussion\u00a0by experts\u00a0here at\u00a0https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/122848-pasting-dibv5-image/)\n\t \n\t\n\t\tApps have varying degrees of buggy ways of copying and pasting\u00a0DIBV5s\n\t \n\t\n\t\tDIBV5 is supposed to be a simple format, but it isn\u0027t due to how it\u0027s evolved over the last ~30 years\u00a0and\u00a0its poor documentation/specification\n\t \n\t\n\t\tThis led to DIBV5 essentially being an ambiguously defined format due to both its buggy specification\u00a0and\u00a0inconsistent implementations across many, many apps\n\t \n\t\n\t\tPNG does not have any of these issues and is far superior in all ways except for encoding performance (i.o.w. how long it takes to copy it to the clipboard). This could probably be rectified if we got a PNG library with a \"super fast compression\" mode (which may already exist, although WIC certainly doesn\u0027t support that unfortunately).\n\t \n\t\n\t\tTherefore, if a PNG is on the clipboard alongside the DIBv5, just use the PNG. All this pain would be avoided if Firefox and Paint Tool SAI would just do that.\n\t \n\n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tDIBV5 should be considered a legacy clipboard format at this point, only included for the sake of apps that don\u0027t (yet) handle PNG. No matter what changes I make to the DIBV5 clipboard copy/paste code, it\u0027s guaranteed that a bunch of other apps will either 1) not copy its data to the clipboard correctly such that PDN will handle it, or 2) not read PDN\u0027s DIBV5 from the clipboard correctly. This is what happens Every. Single. Time. I. Have. Ever. Changed. The. Clipboard. Code. It is not possible to get 100% compatibility between all apps. At this point you need the equivalent of winning a case at the US Supreme Court to get me to change this code (which I considered that discussion linked in #1 to be an example of). It\u0027s not worth the trouble otherwise.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 2 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621221", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621221", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Marvin321", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:26:51+0000", "text": "Thank you for that reply, Rick. It helped me to understand the issue better.\n \n\n\n\tI got another question if you don\u0027t mind answering: If DIBV5 is that problematic, then why keep it? Even mspaint doesn\u0027t use it anymore. Haven\u0027t apps moved to png yet in all these years? Firefox does give preference to DIBV5 over PNG for some reason, but it certainly accepts PNG. Don\u0027t know much about the other apps.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621224", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621224", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Rick Brewster", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2023_03/centeredPDN.thumb.png.3b0fb62cbbb3700ecfc2ebe3469b7e37.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44714-rick-brewster/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:29:23+0000", "text": "(btw I made some more edits to my most recently reply that may have been after your reply)\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621225", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621225", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Marvin321", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:31:55+0000", "text": "Thank you, Rick. I believe this sorted things out for me.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621226", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621226", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Rick Brewster", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2023_03/centeredPDN.thumb.png.3b0fb62cbbb3700ecfc2ebe3469b7e37.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44714-rick-brewster/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T19:34:58+0000", "text": "Because DIB(non-V5) doesn\u0027t support transparency, and not all apps handle PNG. When I say \"it\u0027s a legacy format\" I mean that we shouldn\u0027t be shedding blood and tears over getting it right, we should just consider it to be a lost cause and accept it how it is,\u00a0and\u00a0encourage other apps to support and prefer PNG.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tYou could also say that cash is legacy and problematic compared to debit/credit cards. Why keep using it then? Because it\u0027s still useful for a variety of reasons, and we\u0027re not yet to the point where we can just\u00a0stop.\u00a0And maybe we\u0027ll never reach that point, either for DIBV5 or cash, and that\u0027s something we have to accept. It\u0027s not a lost cause, we can still improve the state of the world with respect to either, but there will always be some app that someone wants to use that only supports DIB/DIBV5, just like there will always be someone out there who only has cash or some merchant who isn\u0027t willing/able to handle cards. (Also, there isn\u0027t yet a law banning cash in favor of cards, at least not in the U.S.)\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\t(I\u0027m not sure cash vs. card is a proper good analogy, and I\u0027m not trying to stake out a political position on the matter, but hopefully you got the point)\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tAnother way to improve this situation would be for Windows itself to step in and fix up / homogenize the clipboard data, possibly with compatibility shims for legacy apps which are known to do the wrong thing.\u00a0\n \n", "upvoteCount": 1 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621231", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621231", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "AndersM", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/174542-andersm/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T20:38:19+0000", "text": "I just searched the Firefox source for CF_DIBV5, BITMAPV4HEADER and BITMAPV5HEADER in order to find out how they handle DIBs - and now I need to book an appointment with my therapist...\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tAs far as I can tell Firefox has used the renowned method of rolling a dice to decide what method to use when reading/writing V4/V5 bitmaps. In most places the DIB data does not contain the extra three color masks, but in a few places it does, and in one gloriously stupid case, when writing a bitmap file, the masks are included but only if the data is specified as having alpha. WTH?\n \n", "upvoteCount": 2 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621236", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621236", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Rick Brewster", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2023_03/centeredPDN.thumb.png.3b0fb62cbbb3700ecfc2ebe3469b7e37.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44714-rick-brewster/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T21:17:02+0000", "text": "Welcome to the world of DIBV5s and the Win32 clipboard\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621237", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621237", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Rick Brewster", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2023_03/centeredPDN.thumb.png.3b0fb62cbbb3700ecfc2ebe3469b7e37.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44714-rick-brewster/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T21:20:30+0000", "text": "A practical solution might be to write a little program that implements something called a\u00a0clipboard hook. Basically it gets notified whenever the clipboard changes. When it sees a DIBV5 put onto the clipboard, it will either 1) Remove it if a PNG is also on the clipboard, or 2) Decode the DIBV5, re-encode as PNG, put the PNG on the clipboard, and remove the DIBV5.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tObviously this would break pasting into apps that don\u0027t support PNG, but I\u0027m sure things could be filtered with allow/block lists.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tAnyway this is just an idea.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621239", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621239", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "AndersM", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/174542-andersm/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T21:48:09+0000", "text": "Don\u0027t go there; The clipboard will synthesize CF_DIBV5 from CF_DIB if only CF_DIB has been pasted.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621240", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621240", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "AndersM", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/174542-andersm/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-05T21:52:01+0000", "text": "Btw, as far as I remember there is a bug, at least in Windows 10, where pasting CF_DIB will corrupt the CF_DIBV5 on the clipboard - or maybe vice versa. I can\u0027t remember which it is.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tEdit: I see that I already mentioned this in the original thread:\n \n\n\n\n\tThe comment that mentions the clipboard bugs predates Windows 10 so I probably discovered them in Windows 7 (I only upgraded from Win7 to Win10 a few months ago).\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621249", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621249", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "AndersM", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/174542-andersm/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-06T01:24:09+0000", "text": "Alas, it seems I have to concede defeat on this issue. I was wrong.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tI noticed that the MSDN documentation on bitmap headers has once again been rephrased and now reads:\n \n\n\n\n\n\tThe text that follows shows evidence of having been copied from somewhere else (it makes reference to the function which has no meaning in that context) but regardless of that it doesn\u0027t really leave room for ambiguity; The color masks must follow BITMAPV5HEADER.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tSince MSDN nowadays is semi-community-edited I didn\u0027t take the above as definite proof (I\u0027ve seen the documentation on this topic change back and forth so many times). Instead I decided to consult \"the source\" (I\u0027ll leave it to you to guess what \"the source\" is).\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tSo I now have it on good authority that the following is how the Windows clipboard calculates the size of a DIB (brought to you in beautiful Pascal):\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tSize of the color table\n \n\nif (BitmapInfoHeader.biCompression = BI_RGB) then\nbegin\n if (BitmapInfoHeader.biClrUsed) then\n ColorTableSize := BitmapInfoHeader.biClrUsed * SizeOf(DWORD)\n else\n if (BitmapInfoHeader.biBitCount \u0026lt;= 8) then\n ColorTableSize := (1 shl BitmapInfoHeader.biBitCount) * SizeOf(RGBQUAD)\n else\n ColorTableSize := 0;\nend else\nif (BitmapInfoHeader.biCompression = BI_BITFIELDS) then\nbegin\n if (BitmapInfoHeader.biBitCount = 16) or (BitmapInfoHeader.biBitCount = 32) then\n ColorTableSize := 3 * SizeOf(DWORD)\n else\n ColorTableSize := 0;\nend else\nif (BitmapInfoHeader.biCompression = BI_RLE4) {\n ColorTableSize := 16 * SizeOf(DWORD)\nelse \nif (BitmapInfoHeader.biCompression = BI_RLE8) {\n ColorTableSize := 256 * SizeOf(DWORD)\nelse\n ColorTableSize := 0;\n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tSize of the pixel data\n \n\nPixelDataSize := (((BitmapInfoheader.biWidth * BitmapInfoheader.biBitCount + 31) and not 31) shr 3) * Abs(BitmapInfoheader.biHeight); // 32 bit aligned\n\n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tSize of DIB\n \n\nDIBSize := BitmapInfoHeader.biSize + ColorTableSize + PixelDataSize;\n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tNotes:\n \n\n\n\t\n\t\tThe above only applies for (BitmapInfoHeader.biSize \u0026gt;= SizeOf(BITMAPINFOHEADER)). \n\t\tThe rules for BITMAPCOREHEADER (i.e an OS/2 DIB) are different. \n\t\t\u00a0\n\t \n\t\n\t\tFor BITMAPV5HEADER, when writing DIBs, the header color masks are duplicated into the color table. \n\t\tThis is a requirement but I guess it\u0027s a good idea since we don\u0027t know which of the two set of masks the reader will use. \n\t\t\u00a0\n\t \n\n\n\n\tMy guess regarding the cause of this mess is that the DIB spec, internally at Microsoft, has evolved through time from the masks originally being included in the header to them being excluded because that was how most people implemented it. \n\tThis would explain the ever changing documentation and the fact that different Microsoft tools has implemented different formats - and in the case of the clipboard, different formats within the same code. It\u0027s also interesting that so many Windows tools are able to correctly read both versions of the format...\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621252", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621252", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Rick Brewster", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2023_03/centeredPDN.thumb.png.3b0fb62cbbb3700ecfc2ebe3469b7e37.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44714-rick-brewster/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-06T03:19:08+0000", "text": "It doesn\u0027t look like it\u0027s actually be edited, there\u0027s just a bunch of commits for infra stuff:\u00a0https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/win32/commits/docs/desktop-src/gdi/bitmap-header-types.md\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tThe documentation for BITMAPV5HEADER still states, in several different ways (but of course never really directly\u00a0saying it) that this is not the way it should be done. It does say that\u00a0bV5ClrUsed\u00a0can be non-zero for a 32-bpp DIB, but that those color values are to be used for some kind of palette optimization (obviously a legacy consideration at this point).\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tIt also has a nonsensical explanation for how color profiles should be encoded (3rd paragraph in Remarks) ... I actually implemented color profiles support in the v5.1 codebase for BMP files as part of the color management feature work, but it\u0027s disabled because that\u0027s a Pandora\u0027s box I\u0027m not willing to open yet.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tAnd yet, as you point out, the Bitmap Header Types page does explicitly say that there should be 3 color mask values\u00a0in addition to\u00a0the embedded color mask values (bV5RedMask et. al.).\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tI\u0027m still not convinced that the 2nd copy of the masks is supposed to be there, other than the \"normalization of deviancy\" Wikipedia link you provided -- in other words, the spec is\u00a0de facto\u00a0the implementation, which was accidentally crowdsourced out to every application or library that handles DIBV5s. And everyone got it wrong in a multitude of different ways and we just have to deal with it now.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tSo we must find a way to unambiguously encode and decode in a way that achieves maximum compatibility.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tAt least for decoding you can look at the total size of the payload (header + bitmap + anything else) -- if there\u0027s an extra 12 bytes then assume that the 3 masks are there, otherwise they\u0027re not. Easy enough. On the Paint.NET side I haven\u0027t been seeing any issues here, so my code for that seems to be working (knock on wood).\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tEncoding is another matter because then you\u0027re contending with the decoding implementation\u00a0of every other app. That\u0027s currently where the trouble is. And there isn\u0027t really a good unit test for this because it would require obtaining all of those other apps, something I am not interested in paying for or dealing with. At least for now we can probably focus on Chrome, Firefox, Office (Word, etc.), GIMP, Krita, mspaint, and any other popular free(ware) software.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tI\u0027ll reopen the issue over on GitHub and poke into this some more for the 5.0.13 servicing release. It sounds like what you\u0027re saying is that the fix is to add in the 3 masks. It may also make sense to just punt this over to WIC -- have it save a BMP to an in-memory stream, skip past the\u00a0BITMAPFILEHEADER,\u00a0and copy the remaining bytes to the clipboard.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621421", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621421", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Marvin321", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/176279-marvin321/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-06T18:35:59+0000", "text": "I\u0027ve had an idea and hope it might be useful to you.\n \n\n\n\tWhat if Rick adds an option somewhere in paint.net (interface or config files) so you can disable/enable DIBV5 format from the clipboard? That would be a workaround this Firefox issue, and if some incompatibility is noticed with other apps, just turn it back on.\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621430", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621430", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Rick Brewster", "image": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2023_03/centeredPDN.thumb.png.3b0fb62cbbb3700ecfc2ebe3469b7e37.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/44714-rick-brewster/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-06T21:41:53+0000", "text": "I\u0027m not doing that\n \n", "upvoteCount": 0 }, { "@type": "Comment", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621543", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/124628-1-px-line-on-top-of-every-image-pasted-into-firefox-from-paintnet/#comment-621543", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "AndersM", "image": "https://forums.getpaint.net/applications/core/interface/email/default_photo.png", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/profile/174542-andersm/" }, "dateCreated": "2024-02-07T15:16:36+0000", "text": "I think I\u0027m going crazy.\n \n\n\n\tAs you\u0027ve seen I have implemented the change in Graphics32 and closed the issue there.\n \n\n\n\tSince many of the bitmaps I used for unit testing were made under the old assumption I decided to regenerate all the bitmaps. And now that I had the bitmaps I thought I would see how Windows Paint handled them - and this is where things got really depressing.\n \n\n\n\t\u00a0\n \n\n\n\tI\u0027ve attached a zip with two 16x16x32bit bitmaps in v4 BI_BITFIELDS format. One with the color table and one without. The bitmaps look like this (in my own bitmap editor):\n \n\n\n\t\n \n\n\n\tAnd this is what they look like in Paint when I load them from file:\n \n\n\n\tbgra_v4_bottomup.bmp (with color table)\n \n\n\n\t\n \n\n\n\tbgra_v4_bottomup_missing_color_table.bmp (without color table)\n \n\n\n\t\n \n\n\n\tOkay, I thought, I guess I was wrong about being wrong. But then I did a copy from my editor (which now produce CF_DIBV5 data with the color table) and pasted into Paint:\n \n\n\n\t\n \n\n\n\t(\u256f\u00b0\u25a1\u00b0)\u256f\ufe35 \u253b\u2501\u253b\n \n\n\n\t\n\t\t\u00a0\n\t\n\n\n\n\tAnyway, I\u0027m too busy with work and stuff to get to the bottom of this right now but I just wanted to give you a heads up.\n \n\nbgra_v4_bottomup.zip ", "upvoteCount": 1 } ] } </script> <script type="application/ld+json"> { "@context": "http://www.schema.org", "publisher": "https://forums.getpaint.net/#organization", "@type": "WebSite", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/#website", "mainEntityOfPage": "https://forums.getpaint.net/", "name": "Paint.NET Forum", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/", "potentialAction": { "type": "SearchAction", "query-input": "required name=query", "target": "https://forums.getpaint.net/search/?q={query}" }, "inLanguage": [ { "@type": "Language", "name": "English (USA)", "alternateName": "en-US" } ] } </script> <script type="application/ld+json"> { "@context": "http://www.schema.org", "@type": "Organization", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/#organization", "mainEntityOfPage": "https://forums.getpaint.net/", "name": "Paint.NET Forum", "url": "https://forums.getpaint.net/", "logo": { "@type": "ImageObject", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/#logo", "url": "//media.invisioncic.com/r125076/monthly_2020_08/getpaint_blacktext.png.5e2669ddda3d7a5f9c5af66188e317c7.png" } } </script> <script type="application/ld+json"> { "@context": "http://schema.org", "@type": "BreadcrumbList", "itemListElement": [ { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 1, "item": { "name": "Paint.NET", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/forum/13-paintnet/" } }, { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 2, "item": { "name": "Troubleshooting & Bug Reports", "@id": "https://forums.getpaint.net/forum/3-troubleshooting-bug-reports/" } }, { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 3, "item": { "name": "1 px line on top of every image pasted into Firefox from paint.net" } } ] } </script> <script type="text/javascript"> (() => { let gqlKeys = []; for (let [k, v] of Object.entries(gqlKeys)) { ips.setGraphQlData(k, v); } })(); </script>  <script>function gtElInit() {var lib = new google.translate.TranslateService();lib.translatePage('pl', 'en', function () {});}</script> <script src="https://translate.google.com/translate_a/element.js?cb=gtElInit&hl=pl&client=wt" type="text/javascript"></script> </body> </html>

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