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class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英国动车组"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3</span> <span><span>Template:英国柴油动车组</span>、<span>Template:英国电力动车组</span>、<span>Template:英国动车组</span></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">11条留言</span> <ul id="toc-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英国动车组-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-痕" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#痕"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>痕</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1条留言</span> <ul id="toc-痕-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-朱忠盛" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#朱忠盛"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> 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<td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>{{刪除}}理據：不符合[[WP:FAME]]，[[WP:SOAP]]并且[[WP:IINFO]]。<s>看到长官一栏里写了个国防部长还以为是这一期出了个国防部长，结果只是列出了当年的国防部长。</s>（目前已被删除）</div></td> </tr> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>2024年11月27日 (三) 12:11的最新版本</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="zh" dir="ltr"><p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <div style="float: right; margin: .3em .3em .3em 1em;"><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=purge&_=20241201090705"><span class="mw-ui-button" role="button">刷新本頁</span></a></span></div> <table border="0"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center"><b>頁面</b></td> <td>：<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E7%A9%8D%E5%A3%93%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/積壓討論">積壓</a> <small><span class="noprint plainlinksneverexpand">[<a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E7%A9%8D%E5%A3%93%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96&action=edit"><span title="">編</span></a>]</span></small></td> <td>｜ </td> <td align="right"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/13" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/13">←9月13日</a>－ </td> <td align="center"><b>9月14日</b> </td> <td align="left">－<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/15" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/15">9月15日→</a> </td> <td class="autoconfirmed-show">｜<span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" 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title="Wikipedia:檔案存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/12">←9月12日</a>－<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">…</span>－</small> </td> <td align="center"><small><span style="display:none">{{safesubst:IfdLinkToday/auto{{subst:!}}text=</span><span style="color:#808080;" title="是日尚未有檔案被提出存廢討論">9月14日</span><span style="display:none">}}</span></small> </td> <td align="left"><small>－<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%AA%94%E6%A1%88%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/15" title="Wikipedia:檔案存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/15">9月15日→</a></small> </td> <td class="autoconfirmed-show">｜<small><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E6%AA%94%E6%A1%88%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/12/01&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:IfdItem/auto/zh-hans&editintro=Template:IfdItemNotice&nosummary=1"><span style="color:inherit" title="按此提报存废讨论">提報新文件</span></a></span></small> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p class="notice metadata" 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Proceedings of the 54th Annual Meeting of the Association for Computational Linguistics (Volume 1: Long Papers) (Berlin, Germany: Association for Computational Linguistics). 2016-08. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.18653%2Fv1%2FP16-1222"><span title="數位物件識別號">doi:10.18653/v1/P16-1222</span></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fzh.wikipedia.org%3AWikipedia%3A%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%2F%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84%2F2024%2F09%2F14&rft.atitle=Chinese+Couplet+Generation+with+Neural+Network+Structures&rft.au=Hu%2C+Xiaohua&rft.au=Li%2C+Cheng-Te&rft.au=Zhang%2C+Ming&rft.aufirst=Rui&rft.aulast=Yan&rft.date=2016-08&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Proceedings+of+the+54th+Annual+Meeting+of+the+Association+for+Computational+Linguistics+%28Volume+1%3A+Long+Papers%29&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Faclanthology.org%2FP16-1222%2F&rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.18653%2Fv1%2FP16-1222&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal" class="Z3988"><span style="display:none;"> </span></span></span> </li> </ol></div> </div> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;">為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240914021400-对联机" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 02:14 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240914021400-对联机"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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class="skin-invert">(×)</span><b>删除</b>理據：雪莲子似乎与鹰嘴豆不同，重定向可能符合CSD R7。 </p> <dl><dd>提交的維基人及時間：<a href="/wiki/User:ZhaoFJx" title="User:ZhaoFJx"><span style="color:black;">即请秋安 <b>ZhaoFJx</b></span></a><sub><b>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ZhaoFJx" title="User talk:ZhaoFJx"><span style="color:black;">论</span></a>•<a href="/wiki/User:ZhaoFJx/%E7%AD%BE%E5%90%8D" title="User:ZhaoFJx/签名"><span style="color:#6495ed;">欢迎签名</span></a></b>)</sub> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-ZhaoFJx-20240821052900-雪蓮子" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月21日 (三) 05:29 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ZhaoFJx-20240821052900-雪蓮子"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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title="编辑章节：Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英国动车组"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patrickov-20240821172800-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，討論<b>無共識</b>，以上页面暫時<b>保留</b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert">(×)</span><b>删除</b>理據：前兩個模板雖然都有對應英文版，但檢視對應英文版模板（<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:British_Rail_DMU" class="extiw" title="en:Template:British Rail DMU">en:Template:British Rail DMU</a>及<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:British_Rail_EMU" class="extiw" title="en:Template:British Rail EMU">en:Template:British Rail EMU</a>）後，我認為其定義和分類混亂（部份較舊式的車型曾經過多次編號改動，英文版模板不加篩選地一概納入，連結與顯示不一致，造成混淆），中文維基百科亦無足夠人力物力管理當中所有項目，因此建議刪除。 </p><p>後一個模板現時沒有條目使用，而且集中收錄現役車型、模板名卻沒有「現役」一詞，命名有誤，加上其中項目會因應各車型的進場、退役而隨時增減，管理這個模板會比前兩個模板更困難，因此也建議刪除。 </p><p>由於三個模板主題相類，因此選擇批量提刪以便集中討論。 </p><p>後續跟進建議：現時已有分類收納英國<a href="/wiki/Category:%E8%8B%B1%E5%9C%8B%E6%9F%B4%E6%B2%B9%E5%8B%95%E8%BB%8A%E7%B5%84" title="Category:英國柴油動車組">柴油</a>或<a href="/wiki/Category:%E8%8B%B1%E5%9C%8B%E9%9B%BB%E5%8A%9B%E5%8B%95%E8%BB%8A%E7%B5%84" title="Category:英國電力動車組">電力</a>動車組，新條目可先行加掛分類。其後建議先用列表列出所有在英國（曾）服役的動車組（必要時分拆），完善後再慢慢重建模板。 </p> <dl><dd>提交的維基人及時間：<a href="/wiki/User:Patrickov" title="User:Patrickov">派翠可夫</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patrickov" title="User talk:Patrickov">留言按此</a>)</small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Patrickov-20240821172800-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月21日 (三) 17:28 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patrickov-20240821172800-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patrickov-20240821172800-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"></span></dd></dl> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240829005800-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240829005800-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月29日 (四) 00:58 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240829005800-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240829005800-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240906001000-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240906001000-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 00:10 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240906001000-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240906001000-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240914021500-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240914021500-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 02:15 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240914021500-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240914021500-Template:英国柴油动车组、Template:英国电力动车组、Template:英"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patrickov-20240915152400-Manchiu-20240914021500"></span>先前已於模板創建者（包括本人自己<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>囧rz……</b>）的討論頁留言。現在再副知一下兩位較近期有參與編輯上述模板的維基人：<span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Comrade_John" title="User:Comrade John">Comrade John</a>、<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MYE_VOR&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MYE VOR（页面不存在）">MYE VOR</a>，</span>以及一些在鐵路相關條目活躍的維基人：<span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User:鐵路1">鐵路1</a>、<a href="/wiki/User:Tisscherry" title="User:Tisscherry">Tisscherry</a>、<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%98%BF%E5%8D%97%E4%B9%8B%E4%BA%BA" title="User:阿南之人">阿南之人</a>、<a href="/wiki/User:Iokseng" title="User:Iokseng">Iokseng</a>、<a href="/wiki/User:%E6%9D%B0%E9%87%8C%E6%AF%9B%E6%96%AF" title="User:杰里毛斯">杰里毛斯</a>。</span>如有冒犯請見諒。--<a href="/wiki/User:Patrickov" title="User:Patrickov">派翠可夫</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patrickov" title="User talk:Patrickov">留言按此</a>)</small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Patrickov-20240915152400-Manchiu-20240914021500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月15日 (日) 15:24 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patrickov-20240915152400-Manchiu-20240914021500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patrickov-20240915152400-Manchiu-20240914021500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Comrade_John-20240915153800-Patrickov-20240915152400"></span>我只清偽藍鏈而已。我的意見，刪前，找人備份模板，以作重建參考。--<a href="/wiki/User:Comrade_John" title="User:Comrade John">約翰同志－條目裱糊匠</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Comrade_John" title="User talk:Comrade John">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Comrade_John-20240915153800-Patrickov-20240915152400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月15日 (日) 15:38 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Comrade_John-20240915153800-Patrickov-20240915152400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Comrade_John-20240915153800-Patrickov-20240915152400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tisscherry-20240916000100-Patrickov-20240915152400"></span>我也只是因為原創研究遇到傀儡。個人支持刪除，只要將欲刪除模板移動到個人頁面，到個人頁面後續能繼續編輯，也做到上面說的備份模板。--<a href="/wiki/User:Tisscherry" title="User:Tisscherry">提斯切里</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tisscherry" title="User talk:Tisscherry">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Tisscherry-20240916000100-Patrickov-20240915152400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月16日 (一) 00:01 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tisscherry-20240916000100-Patrickov-20240915152400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tisscherry-20240916000100-Patrickov-20240915152400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-杰里毛斯-20240916070800-Patrickov-20240915152400"></span>您好，我并没有编辑过铁路条目，不清楚车型的名称变动和退役的频率，无法提供意见，抱歉。——<a href="/wiki/User:%E6%9D%B0%E9%87%8C%E6%AF%9B%E6%96%AF" title="User:杰里毛斯">杰里毛斯</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%9D%B0%E9%87%8C%E6%AF%9B%E6%96%AF" title="User talk:杰里毛斯">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-杰里毛斯-20240916070800-Patrickov-20240915152400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月16日 (一) 07:08 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-杰里毛斯-20240916070800-Patrickov-20240915152400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-杰里毛斯-20240916070800-Patrickov-20240915152400"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patrickov-20240921022300-Manchiu-20240914021500"></span>謝謝各位的意見。本人會先把三個模板備份到自己的個人空間，完成後再在這裏匯報，謝謝。--<a href="/wiki/User:Patrickov" title="User:Patrickov">派翠可夫</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patrickov" title="User talk:Patrickov">留言按此</a>)</small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Patrickov-20240921022300-Manchiu-20240914021500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 02:23 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patrickov-20240921022300-Manchiu-20240914021500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patrickov-20240921022300-Manchiu-20240914021500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patrickov-20240921044400-Patrickov-20240921022300"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Symbol_redirect_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_redirect_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Symbol_redirect_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_redirect_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Symbol_redirect_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_redirect_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>已完成</b>：已建立以下三個備份頁面： <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Patrickov/%E6%A8%A1%E6%9D%BF%E5%82%99%E4%BB%BD/%E8%8B%B1%E5%9C%8B%E5%8B%95%E8%BB%8A%E7%B5%84" title="User:Patrickov/模板備份/英國動車組">用戶:Patrickov/模板備份/英國動車組</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Patrickov/%E6%A8%A1%E6%9D%BF%E5%82%99%E4%BB%BD/%E8%8B%B1%E5%9C%8B%E6%9F%B4%E6%B2%B9%E5%8B%95%E8%BB%8A%E7%B5%84" title="User:Patrickov/模板備份/英國柴油動車組">用戶:Patrickov/模板備份/英國柴油動車組</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Patrickov/%E6%A8%A1%E6%9D%BF%E5%82%99%E4%BB%BD/%E8%8B%B1%E5%9C%8B%E9%9B%BB%E5%8A%9B%E5%8B%95%E8%BB%8A%E7%B5%84" title="User:Patrickov/模板備份/英國電力動車組">用戶:Patrickov/模板備份/英國電力動車組</a></li></ul></dd> <dd>以上--<a href="/wiki/User:Patrickov" title="User:Patrickov">派翠可夫</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patrickov" title="User talk:Patrickov">留言按此</a>)</small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Patrickov-20240921044400-Patrickov-20240921022300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 04:44 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patrickov-20240921044400-Patrickov-20240921022300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patrickov-20240921044400-Patrickov-20240921022300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shizhao-20240921114100-Manchiu-20240914021500-1"></span>无共识。--<a href="/wiki/User:Shizhao" title="User:Shizhao">百無一用是書生</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shizhao" title="User talk:Shizhao">☎</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shizhao-20240921114100-Manchiu-20240914021500-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 11:41 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shizhao-20240921114100-Manchiu-20240914021500-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a></b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>重新提交</b>到<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/22#痕" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22#痕</a>。--<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240922002600-痕" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月22日 (日) 00:26 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240922002600-痕"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240922002600-痕"></span> </p> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="朱忠盛" data-mw-thread-id="h-朱忠盛-20240922002700"><span id=".E6.9C.B1.E5.BF.A0.E7.9B.9B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-朱忠盛-20240922002700"></span><a href="/wiki/%E6%9C%B1%E5%BF%A0%E7%9B%9B" title="朱忠盛">朱忠盛</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-朱忠盛-20240922002700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=5" title="编辑章节：朱忠盛"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-朱忠盛"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a></b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>重新提交</b>到<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/22#朱忠盛" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22#朱忠盛</a>。--<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240922002700-朱忠盛" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月22日 (日) 00:27 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-朱忠盛"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-朱忠盛"></span> </p> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="衛士" data-mw-thread-id="h-衛士-20240922002700"><span id=".E8.A1.9B.E5.A3.AB"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-衛士-20240922002700"></span><a href="/wiki/%E8%A1%9B%E5%A3%AB" class="mw-redirect" title="衛士">衛士</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-衛士-20240922002700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=6" title="编辑章节：衛士"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-衛士"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a></b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>重新提交</b>到<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/22#衛士" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22#衛士</a>。--<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240922002700-衛士" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月22日 (日) 00:27 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-衛士"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-衛士"></span> </p> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="中華民國陸軍官校專科五期" data-mw-thread-id="h-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期-20240829131900"><span id=".E4.B8.AD.E8.8F.AF.E6.B0.91.E5.9C.8B.E9.99.B8.E8.BB.8D.E5.AE.98.E6.A0.A1.E5.B0.88.E7.A7.91.E4.BA.94.E6.9C.9F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期-20240829131900"></span><a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E9%99%B8%E8%BB%8D%E5%AE%98%E6%A0%A1%E5%B0%88%E7%A7%91%E4%BA%94%E6%9C%9F" title="中華民國陸軍官校專科五期">中華民國陸軍官校專科五期</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期-20240829131900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=7" title="编辑章节：中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YouCountry-20240829131900-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，討論<b>無共識</b>，以上页面暫時<b>保留</b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p class="formerly"><span class="anchor" id="中华民国陆军官校专科五期"></span><span class="formerly-intro">原标题为：</span><span class="formerly-title"><a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E9%99%B8%E8%BB%8D%E5%AE%98%E6%A0%A1%E5%B0%88%E7%A7%91%E4%BA%94%E6%9C%9F" title="中華民國陸軍官校專科五期">中华民国陆军官校专科五期</a></span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert">(×)</span><b>删除</b>理據：不符合<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FAME">WP:FAME</a>，<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOAP">WP:SOAP</a>并且<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IINFO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IINFO">WP:IINFO</a>。<s>看到长官一栏里写了个国防部长还以为是这一期出了个国防部长，结果只是列出了当年的国防部长。</s>（目前已被删除） </p> <dl><dd>提交的維基人及時間：<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:YouCountry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:YouCountry（页面不存在）">YouCountry</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YouCountry" title="User talk:YouCountry">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YouCountry-20240829131900-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月29日 (四) 13:19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YouCountry-20240829131900-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YouCountry-20240829131900-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold; background-color:#ffd700; color:#8b0000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240912152900-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>(※)</span><b>注意</b>管理員Antigng於2017年裁示-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期-不能证明内容有违中立性、违反NOT、有自我宣傳問題）。<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240912152900-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月12日 (四) 15:29 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240912152900-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240912152900-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" lang="zh-Hant" style="font-weight: bold; color:#FFCD71; background-color: #DB6D00;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901040800-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>(：)</span><b>回應</b>，歡迎新人加入維基。閣下所疑已有調整，另你或許不知此條目先前已獲八票推新，及五票保留，請再視諸下討論。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901040800-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 04:08 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901040800-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901040800-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240915025300-Chinuan12623-20240901040800"></span>Wolfch 已刪除"關注度不足"的原因）。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240915025300-Chinuan12623-20240901040800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月15日 (日) 02:53 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240915025300-Chinuan12623-20240901040800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240915025300-Chinuan12623-20240901040800"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240829134800-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>，絕對沒有到需要刪除的程度，但可能需要不小規模的清理，以及來源的篩選。--<a href="/wiki/User:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #D94DFF;"><b>William</b></span></a> <span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #008B8B"><b>is</b></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User talk:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #FF0000;"><b> Wikipedia!</b></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240829134800-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月29日 (四) 13:48 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240829134800-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240829134800-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TimWu007-20240829145000-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>倾向于<span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold; background: #ffa0ab; color: white;">(◇)</span><b>刪後重建</b>，现在的条目（尤其是顶部的大合照）搞得像是同学会博客主页。--<a href="/wiki/User:TimWu007" title="User:TimWu007">Tim Wu</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TimWu007" title="User talk:TimWu007">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-TimWu007-20240829145000-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月29日 (四) 14:50 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TimWu007-20240829145000-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TimWu007-20240829145000-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A2093064-bot-20240829150600-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>機器人修正了該存廢討論的段落標題。因為該標題的繁簡用字與被提刪頁面不同。--<a href="/wiki/User:A2093064-bot" title="User:A2093064-bot">A2093064-bot</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A2093064-bot" title="User talk:A2093064-bot">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-A2093064-bot-20240829150600-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月29日 (四) 15:06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A2093064-bot-20240829150600-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A2093064-bot-20240829150600-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-日期20220626-20240829232400-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>寫的倒是很長，真的值得刪除嗎？--<a href="/wiki/User:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User:日期20220626">日期20220626</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User talk:日期20220626">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-日期20220626-20240829232400-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月29日 (四) 23:24 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-日期20220626-20240829232400-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-日期20220626-20240829232400-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WiiUf-20240829233800-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>粗略的讀一遍甚至看上去接近GA標準⋯⋯--<a href="/wiki/User:WiiUf" title="User:WiiUf"><span style="color:#00A0A0;"><b>WiiUf</b></span></a><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:WiiUf" title="User talk:WiiUf"><span style="color:#F27310;"><b> ——青龍出世，傲視蒼穹</b></span></a></small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WiiUf-20240829233800-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月29日 (四) 23:38 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WiiUf-20240829233800-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WiiUf-20240829233800-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240830014700-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>(×)</span><b>删除</b>，太過瑣碎，廣告宣傳，不少內容是和陸軍官校有關，不是單純針對這一期的說明（假設建立了「<a href="/w/index.php?title=%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E9%99%B8%E8%BB%8D%E5%AE%98%E6%A0%A1%E5%B0%88%E7%A7%91%E5%9B%9B%E6%9C%9F&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="中華民國陸軍官校專科四期（页面不存在）">中華民國陸軍官校專科四期</a>」條目，像「校歌」<s>、「黃埔情歌」、「黃埔壽歌」</s>應該可以直接沿用），<s>而且沒有看出「<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E9%99%B8%E8%BB%8D%E5%AE%98%E6%A0%A1%E5%B0%88%E7%A7%91%E4%BA%94%E6%9C%9F" title="中華民國陸軍官校專科五期">中華民國陸軍官校專科五期</a>」此一主題的關注度</s>。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240830014700-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月30日 (五) 01:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240830014700-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240830014700-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span> <dl><dd><span class="skin-invert" lang="zh-Hant" style="font-weight: bold; color:#FFCD71; background-color: #DB6D00;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240915032000-Wolfch-20240830014700"></span>(：)</span><b>回應</b>，剩一疑項，釋出善意，就如你言-校歌移除，沿用陸官。<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240915032000-Wolfch-20240830014700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月15日 (日) 03:20 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240915032000-Wolfch-20240830014700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240915032000-Wolfch-20240830014700"></span></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold;background:#D2691E;color:white;"><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240830022300-Wolfch-20240830014700"></span>(～)</b></span><b>補充</b>，此條目曾二次提報存廢討論，第一次被刪（<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2012/07/28#中華民國陸軍官校專科五期" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2012/07/28">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2012/07/28#中華民國陸軍官校專科五期</a>），第二次暫時保留（<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2013/01/20#陸軍官校專科五期" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2013/01/20">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2013/01/20#陸軍官校專科五期</a>），且後來提報DYK推薦通過（<a href="/wiki/Talk:%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E9%99%B8%E8%BB%8D%E5%AE%98%E6%A0%A1%E5%B0%88%E7%A7%91%E4%BA%94%E6%9C%9F#新条目推荐讨论" title="Talk:中華民國陸軍官校專科五期">Talk:中華民國陸軍官校專科五期#新条目推荐讨论</a>），不過以條目目前情形，我仍建議刪除條目。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240830022300-Wolfch-20240830014700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月30日 (五) 02:23 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240830022300-Wolfch-20240830014700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240830022300-Wolfch-20240830014700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831155400-Wolfch-20240830022300"></span>原上文是</dd> <dd>閣下只「連結第一次提刪」的不完整條目版之討論。</dd> <dd>卻未「連結第二次」提刪討論，當時該版已獲八人支持新條目推薦，亦獲五人認同保留之討論。（PS 我質疑後，已見你事後已做連結）</dd> <dd>我不猜想你是刻意不做連結而有誤導討論傾向，所以我會將第二次提刪也做連結，讓大家較清楚來去始末。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240831155400-Wolfch-20240830022300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 15:54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831155400-Wolfch-20240830022300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240831155400-Wolfch-20240830022300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240830070400-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>(○)</span><b>快速保留</b>1. 前有二次提刪獲保留2. 見<a class="external text" href="https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:中華民國陸軍官校專科五期#新条目推荐讨论">1</a> 有八票支持的理由。3.關注來源甚多。4. 時任管理員Outlookxp表示肯定新手的編輯。<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240830070400-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月30日 (五) 07:04 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240830070400-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240830070400-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WiiUf-20240830071900-Chinuan12623-20240830070400"></span>關於您的第4條，請提供證據。不過，我也支持<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert">(○)</span>保留</span>，畢竟問題還沒嚴重到無法通過修改來解決。實在不行，或可<span style="font-weight: bold; color: blue; background: lightblue;" class="skin-invert">(►)</span><b>移动</b>到<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E8%8D%89%E7%A8%BF%E5%91%BD%E5%90%8D%E7%A9%BA%E9%97%B4" title="Wikipedia:草稿命名空间">草稿</a>，進行大幅編修。--<a href="/wiki/User:WiiUf" title="User:WiiUf"><span style="color:#00A0A0;"><b>WiiUf</b></span></a><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:WiiUf" title="User talk:WiiUf"><span style="color:#F27310;"><b> ——青龍出世，傲視蒼穹</b></span></a></small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WiiUf-20240830071900-Chinuan12623-20240830070400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月30日 (五) 07:19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WiiUf-20240830071900-Chinuan12623-20240830070400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WiiUf-20240830071900-Chinuan12623-20240830070400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831152400-WiiUf-20240830071900"></span>Outlookxp在2014年表示-我來到維基已經快十年了，有件事要跟您說抱歉～</dd> <dd>「中華民國陸軍官校專科五期」我心中後悔沒有協助您去改善。好在您不氣餒，又補充資料來建立，不然，我又趕跑了有潛力的新人了，希望維基能增加越多人才。）--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240831152400-WiiUf-20240830071900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 15:24 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831152400-WiiUf-20240830071900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240831152400-WiiUf-20240830071900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240830074700-Chinuan12623-20240830070400"></span>關於您提出的第2點，說明一下，新條目推薦約是2013年的事，另外，新條目推薦票數無法佐證「條目應該保留」。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240830074700-Chinuan12623-20240830070400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月30日 (五) 07:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240830074700-Chinuan12623-20240830070400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240830074700-Chinuan12623-20240830070400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831153100-Wolfch-20240830074700"></span>1.在11年前的本條目「初版」新條推薦已獲8票支持，是很高的。</dd> <dd>2.慣例已獲新條推薦的不會做提刪，管理員大多做「快速保留」裁決。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240831153100-Wolfch-20240830074700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 15:31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831153100-Wolfch-20240830074700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240831153100-Wolfch-20240830074700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240902081600-Chinuan12623-20240831153100"></span>您提到的 "慣例已獲新條推薦的不會做提刪，管理員大多做「快速保留」裁決。" 我在維基百科上找了一下, 沒有找到類似的說法, 您是否可以提供相關的資料佐證？謝謝您。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240902081600-Chinuan12623-20240831153100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 08:16 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240902081600-Chinuan12623-20240831153100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240902081600-Chinuan12623-20240831153100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240902092600-Wolfch-20240902081600"></span>1.當然是有，太多條目，不好回想是那些。</dd> <dd>2.就算提出了，你和提案者也不會因此刪劃，繼續123。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240902092600-Wolfch-20240902081600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 09:26 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240902092600-Wolfch-20240902081600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240902092600-Wolfch-20240902081600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240902093700-Chinuan12623-20240902092600"></span>我相信有不少DYK的條目被提刪，被保留或快速保留，但我想也有DYK條目被提刪，然後刪除的例子，毎個條目狀況不同，這類的舉例幫助不大。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240902093700-Chinuan12623-20240902092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 09:37 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240902093700-Chinuan12623-20240902092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240902093700-Chinuan12623-20240902092600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240902125300-Wolfch-20240902093700"></span>我不採（相信）有推新條目被刪掉，因我只（見）過推新修目快速保留。但舉例也無益你二人對條目要刪除看法。還是看眾論吧。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240902125300-Wolfch-20240902093700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 12:53 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240902125300-Wolfch-20240902093700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240902125300-Wolfch-20240902093700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240902132300-Chinuan12623-20240902125300"></span>我找到新條目推薦被刪除的例子了。</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E5%AD%94%E4%BD%91%E7%A9%8E&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="孔佑穎（页面不存在）">孔佑穎</a>條目在2024年4月1日成為DYK推薦（<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%96%B0%E6%9D%A1%E7%9B%AE%E6%8E%A8%E8%8D%90/%E4%BE%9B%E7%A8%BF/2024%E5%B9%B44%E6%9C%881%E6%97%A5" title="Wikipedia:新条目推荐/供稿/2024年4月1日">Wikipedia:新条目推荐/供稿/2024年4月1日</a>）,在同年6/19被刪除（<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/06/19#孔佑穎" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/06/19">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/06/19#孔佑穎</a>），刪除原因是「關注度不足」</dd> <dd>我同意這樣的事不常見，每個條目狀況不同，不能一概而論，但通過新條目推薦的條目，提報存廢討論，不是一定會以快速保留結案的--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240902132300-Chinuan12623-20240902125300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 13:23 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240902132300-Chinuan12623-20240902125300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240902132300-Chinuan12623-20240902125300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240902135700-Wolfch-20240902132300"></span>1.你舉的條目是「移動」到-維基拾遺，還是可點閱到的。又見了相關討論說明-上了DYK的條目是不提刪的，但真若關注度極少而來源不符要求的，是可做處理。</dd> <dd>2.但這條目沒上述缺撼，我不想去找因上了DYk而快速保留的條目，用類比也無法說服你不是嗎，還是見眾論吧。</dd> <dd>3.不必在此打轉，條目內容現都有用戶協力編修，目的-不下架、優化，不是嗎？--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240902135700-Wolfch-20240902132300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 13:57 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240902135700-Wolfch-20240902132300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240902135700-Wolfch-20240902132300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SunAfterRain-20240902155300-Wolfch-20240902081600"></span>我第一次聽到有人這麼光明正大唬爛的，<u><b>不是慣例也不可能有這條慣例</b></u>，有的話建議那個管理員自行離開維基百科。--<b><a href="/wiki/User:SunAfterRain" title="User:SunAfterRain"><span style="color: #cc0;">Sun</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SunAfterRain" title="User talk:SunAfterRain"><span style="color: #0c0;">After</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/SunAfterRain" title="Special:用户贡献/SunAfterRain"><span style="color: #00c;">Rain</span></a></b> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-SunAfterRain-20240902155300-Wolfch-20240902081600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 15:53 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SunAfterRain-20240902155300-Wolfch-20240902081600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SunAfterRain-20240902155300-Wolfch-20240902081600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240910013200-SunAfterRain-20240902155300"></span>有前例DYK後又提刪之二DYK提刪案例，管理(行政)員之裁處:（Kegns-DYK，依据WP:SK予以快速保留、Jimmy Xu-上首页了，快速保留）。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240910013200-SunAfterRain-20240902155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月10日 (二) 01:32 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240910013200-SunAfterRain-20240902155300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240910013200-SunAfterRain-20240902155300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831053800-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>參見第二次提為-暫時保留（<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2013/01/20#陸軍官校專科五期" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2013/01/20">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2013/01/20#陸軍官校專科五期</a>。<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240831053800-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 05:38 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831053800-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240831053800-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240831054300-Chinuan12623-20240831053800"></span>當時暫時保留的說明有提到："已掛關注度，30天後再提刪"，後來沒有提刪，不過其關注度是有疑慮的，當時參與討論的維基人也有提及。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240831054300-Chinuan12623-20240831053800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 05:43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240831054300-Chinuan12623-20240831053800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240831054300-Chinuan12623-20240831053800"></span> <dl><dd><span class="skin-invert" lang="zh-Hant" style="font-weight: bold; color:#FFCD71; background-color: #DB6D00;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831060300-Wolfch-20240831054300"></span>(：)</span><b>回應</b>1.那是個別用戶-Nivekin留言-（○)暫時保留，已掛關注度，30天後再提刪）。又日後他真未再提刪，不是証明也認同條目是可行的。</dd> <dd>2.該條目後則賡增關注度來解他人疑慮。而原討論除提案人外，餘<b>五員是都-留言（○)保留，</b>及有他方陳述及釋疑。</dd> <dd>3.再二天後，理員管-Alberth2 <b>汪汪裁示-（○) 暫時保留）。並沒有裁說-日後再提刪</b>詞。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240831060300-Wolfch-20240831054300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 06:03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831060300-Wolfch-20240831054300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240831060300-Wolfch-20240831054300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240831073100-Chinuan12623-20240831060300"></span>當初的關注度模版, 是在加入以下參考資料 "陸官專五行善網團　關注社會公益" 後移除, 以下是參考資料的網頁備份<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140113202735/http://www.twtimes.com.tw/?page=news&nid=306284">[4]</a></dd> <dd>留待其他維基人確認, 此參考資料是否可以證實 "中華民國陸軍官校專科五期" 的關注度。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240831073100-Chinuan12623-20240831060300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 07:31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240831073100-Chinuan12623-20240831060300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240831073100-Chinuan12623-20240831060300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831110600-Wolfch-20240831073100"></span>請注意</dd> <dd>1.維基人有必要再去確認你在談論十年前的関注度，甚至模版？此在該時第二次提刪前後多已觸及，當時就是除提案人外，餘五員均認同（o）保留。</dd> <dd>2.現在則是談論條目旳當前狀態，請注意該條目現今的關注度來源是一大堆。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240831110600-Wolfch-20240831073100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 11:06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831110600-Wolfch-20240831073100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240831110600-Wolfch-20240831073100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240831115400-Chinuan12623-20240831110600"></span>依我的印象, 只要有一個參考資料可以佐證條目的關注度, 就可以了, 因此, 不太清楚為何不去確認當初那個參考資料的關注度。我就先不往下深入探究了。改由其他維基人來確認此條目的狀態。謝謝大家--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240831115400-Chinuan12623-20240831110600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 11:54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240831115400-Chinuan12623-20240831110600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240831115400-Chinuan12623-20240831110600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831150900-Wolfch-20240831115400"></span>所以閣下有打算參考現有諸多留言，劃掉-刪除？--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240831150900-Wolfch-20240831115400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 15:09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240831150900-Wolfch-20240831115400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240831150900-Wolfch-20240831115400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240831182700-Chinuan12623-20240831150900"></span>我提刪除票還有其他原因(太過瑣碎，廣告宣傳，不少內容是和陸軍官校有關，不是單純針對這一期的說明),我認為問題還存在的情況下，沒辦法劃票，不好意思。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240831182700-Chinuan12623-20240831150900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 18:27 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240831182700-Chinuan12623-20240831150900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240831182700-Chinuan12623-20240831150900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901032100-Wolfch-20240831182700"></span>1.另一用戶不是已針對提案人及你指的內容進行移除和修飾。</dd> <dd>2.而你另幾項質疑，不也都釋疑了。不可原說一，觧釋了反又增二，這會讓人覺得你是為反對而反對。</dd> <dd>3.似乎只你的見解不同於其他人的認同意見，甚還有人說條日略看近GA標準。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901032100-Wolfch-20240831182700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 03:21 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901032100-Wolfch-20240831182700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901032100-Wolfch-20240831182700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240901065700-Chinuan12623-20240901032100"></span>我知道部分問題有修正，但還是有部份問題，我就不一一說明了，若我認為我提出問題都修正了，自然會劃刪除票。此存廢討論目前看下來，條目大概不會被刪，因此請主編不要執著在我是否有劃刪除票，重新看一下大家的意見，確認條目是否有所述問題，會比較好。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240901065700-Chinuan12623-20240901032100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 06:57 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240901065700-Chinuan12623-20240901032100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240901065700-Chinuan12623-20240901032100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901084000-Wolfch-20240901065700"></span>1.你說條目大概不會被刪）。但從你和提案者之頁面對話，是瞭解提案者根本不知條目之始末來去。但你是知道條目本有獲八票推新，笫二次提刪也五票保留，依慣例是不應提刪，即提也符保留。</dd> <dd>2.你劃-移除否在你，這頁面自會呈現何者較為主流看法。</dd> <dd>3.我會反向思考，此新進的維基人之再提刪，可再誏証此條目是合宜。如在絕大多數認同，又獲裁-保留，爾後若仍有用戶再提，就是來亂的，浪費維基資源。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901084000-Wolfch-20240901065700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 08:40 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901084000-Wolfch-20240901065700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901084000-Wolfch-20240901065700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-61.229.65.196-20240831121400-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>來/留言不少的，請保留，謝謝啦！--<a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/61.229.65.196" title="Special:用户贡献/61.229.65.196">61.229.65.196</a>（<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:61.229.65.196&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:61.229.65.196（页面不存在）">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-61.229.65.196-20240831121400-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 12:14 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-61.229.65.196-20240831121400-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-61.229.65.196-20240831121400-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chungmasayoshi-20240831125900-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>,本條目沒有誤導的狀況,值得保留<a href="/wiki/User:Chungmasayoshi" title="User:Chungmasayoshi">Chungmasayoshi</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chungmasayoshi" title="User talk:Chungmasayoshi">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chungmasayoshi-20240831125900-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 12:59 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chungmasayoshi-20240831125900-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chungmasayoshi-20240831125900-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold;background:#D2691E;color:white;"><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YouCountry-20240901084700-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span>(～)</b></span><b>補充</b>，1. 关于未能在提删前通知条目创建者：我很抱歉未能熟悉维基百科中的一些操作。我准备提删时在条目的修订历史点选了“最早”，此时显示在顶部的第一笔编辑实际上是<b>最早的一页修订历史</b>中的<b>最晚一笔编辑</b>，而我默认它是最早一笔编辑，导致未能找到条目创建者，并错误地以为是年代过于久远的问题。感谢Wolfch的帮助，我在提删后约14小时通知到了条目创建者。</dd> <dd>2. 关于删除理由：谈论此条目十多年前的删除重建保留等等光荣事迹已经没什么意义，当前的现实是，此条目已经是属于集体部落格的存在，条目内容就是照着违反<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POV">WP:POV</a>和<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOAP">WP:SOAP</a>写的，并且充斥着大量“报人名”“报队名”“报课名”的<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IINFO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IINFO">WP:IINFO</a>（包括我提删时就说的长官列表）。刚一点开此条目或许会觉得很长很丰富，其实稍微读一下就<s>突开化粪池</s>翻开战友纪念册了，<s>不忍直视</s>令人怀疑自己是否真的在看维基百科。大修或打回草稿重写固然是改善条目内容的方式，问题是，谁来改善、谁来重写？没有非利益相关者愿意<s>从这个化粪池里抽大粪出去</s>花费时间精力来改善如此之长、问题如此之严重的条目，只有利益相关者十年如一日地<s>往里面拉屎</s>在里面拉清单，更进一步坐实了<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOAP">WP:SOAP</a>。越早删除这个条目，越少的<s>人被满脸喷粪</s>维基服务器资源被浪费。</dd> <dd>3. 另外值得注意的是：本条目的存废讨论似乎已出现了<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEAT">WP:MEAT</a>问题。抛开以往没有编辑记录的<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:61.229.65.196&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:61.229.65.196（页面不存在）">User:61.229.65.196</a>不谈，<a href="/wiki/User:Liao3558" title="User:Liao3558">User:Liao3558</a>从2021年11月后不再活跃，<a href="/wiki/User:Chungmasayoshi" title="User:Chungmasayoshi">User:Chungmasayoshi</a>从2022年10月后不再活跃，而他们此刻都不约而同来到中文维基百科页面存废讨论20240829这个小小角落发表了他们的意见。这一现象与方针中描述的“邀请一个或一群维基人加入某个讨论，并发表支持邀请人的观点，意图改变共识的形成”高度吻合。--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:YouCountry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:YouCountry（页面不存在）">YouCountry</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YouCountry" title="User talk:YouCountry">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YouCountry-20240901084700-YouCountry-20240829131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 08:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YouCountry-20240901084700-YouCountry-20240829131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YouCountry-20240901084700-YouCountry-20240829131900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901093600-YouCountry-20240901084700"></span>1.閣下-一下就突开化粪池了，不忍直视。）之相関…人身攻擊，請自己直接刪除，我不會幫你劃。否則會請管理員處分。</dd> <dd>2.新人本應鼓勵，但語句嚴厲自我強烈，完全莫視此條目有八票推新，曾五票全保留，有管理員肯定此編輯，也有述類近優良條目。</dd> <dd>3.多看他人論述。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901093600-YouCountry-20240901084700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 09:36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901093600-YouCountry-20240901084700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901093600-YouCountry-20240901084700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold; background-color:#ffd700; color:#8b0000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YouCountry-20240901095500-Chinuan12623-20240901093600"></span>(※)</span><b>注意</b>：你既没有搞懂人身攻击的定义，也没有回应我列出的条目当前存在的严重问题。--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:YouCountry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:YouCountry（页面不存在）">YouCountry</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YouCountry" title="User talk:YouCountry">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YouCountry-20240901095500-Chinuan12623-20240901093600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 09:55 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YouCountry-20240901095500-Chinuan12623-20240901093600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YouCountry-20240901095500-Chinuan12623-20240901093600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901100600-YouCountry-20240901095500"></span>1.人攻、鄙詞，不需我定義。不要看低常知。</dd> <dd>2.我依管理員前示，不刪他人留言，故已在此頁及你頁提了二次警告。（不是貼模版才算）</dd> <dd>3.我怎沒回應你提刪理由，你去見你提案「理由」，那些內容刪了沒。</dd> <dd>4.我也說了，在這頁有反對人之理由，如已釋疑解了，反者就不應再提二、三來反，會讓人有為反對而反對之感覺，很不好的。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901100600-YouCountry-20240901095500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 10:06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901100600-YouCountry-20240901095500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901100600-YouCountry-20240901095500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YouCountry-20240901101000-Chinuan12623-20240901100600"></span>1. 看来你确实没搞懂。</dd> <dd>2. 你还想着删我的发言呢？</dd> <dd>3. 没有。</dd> <dd>4. 你当你是谁？我提出删除，你才是反对者。--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:YouCountry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:YouCountry（页面不存在）">YouCountry</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YouCountry" title="User talk:YouCountry">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YouCountry-20240901101000-Chinuan12623-20240901100600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 10:10 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YouCountry-20240901101000-Chinuan12623-20240901100600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YouCountry-20240901101000-Chinuan12623-20240901100600"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240901144700-Chinuan12623-20240901100600"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:YouCountry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:YouCountry（页面不存在）">YouCountry</a>：</span>，您提到了"其实稍微读一下就突开化粪池了，不忍直视。"，我不確定這算不算人身攻擊，不過對編寫條目的人而言，很容易會對這類的形容詞反感，進而沒有回答您其他的問題。若是可以，還是修改一下吧--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240901144700-Chinuan12623-20240901100600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 14:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240901144700-Chinuan12623-20240901100600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240901144700-Chinuan12623-20240901100600"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240901144700-Chinuan12623-20240901100600-1"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>：</span>（我有依照您所說的，我提的完全都是在此存廢討論提過的，但沒有進一步解釋的，沒有增加問題。）YouCountry提了多次<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POV">WP:POV</a>、<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOAP">WP:SOAP</a>、<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IINFO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IINFO">WP:IINFO</a>，您不考慮針對這些簡單說明一下嗎？說明一下為什麼目前條目符合這些方針指引？既然您提到：「有述類近優良條目」，應該可以說明條目符合方針指引的地方吧？麻煩您了，謝謝。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240901144700-Chinuan12623-20240901100600-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 14:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240901144700-Chinuan12623-20240901100600-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240901144700-Chinuan12623-20240901100600-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901150300-Wolfch-20240901144700"></span>1.我對你的問題多已釋疑，你也未反增述，是良善互動。</dd> <dd>2.至於提案人「原由」之內容已移去，他本該同你般，不應反復增，只是誏人覺得在拗。</dd> <dd>3.另這條目是協作，我只是開頭。但他也說不是很熟操作，但連以前那麽多支持票意見，他都能用人攻鄙詞來批評眾人，等他在維基久些熟些再好談。</dd> <dd>4.另有管理員說此條目來肯定編創者，和有人說此略近優良條目，他們替我說，夠了。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901150300-Wolfch-20240901144700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 15:03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901150300-Wolfch-20240901144700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901150300-Wolfch-20240901144700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240901151900-Chinuan12623-20240901150300"></span>1.我提出的問題, 恕不在此討論, 我不同意您所提出"我對你的問題多已釋疑" 的說法。</dd> <dd>2.提案人在進一步說明他的看法, 至少我不認為"他是在拗"。</dd> <dd>3.我覺得提案人雖然之前的用詞需要修正，但他有提出一些大家需確認的WP:POV、WP:SOAP、WP:IINFO（若他可以再簡單舉例說明，我覺得會更理想），不應因為之前用詞不當而被大家忽視。</dd> <dd>4.我認為條目是協作，只要意見合理，大家都可以提出意見，不應因為意見正面或是負面而有不同的看待。只要意見合理，大家也都可以對條目提出修改或是增刪。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240901151900-Chinuan12623-20240901150300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 15:19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240901151900-Chinuan12623-20240901150300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240901151900-Chinuan12623-20240901150300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901154300-Wolfch-20240901151900"></span>1.指引我看的懂，是未違中立、廣宣，而好的條目也歡迎現在、久違、有無匿名的任何人來路過。</dd> <dd>2.再告知，提刪是用戶權，我寫條目也有幾條被提刪過，但我會依指引優化，故不曾下架過條目，至少是推新，見優甚典範，這你可去查證。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901154300-Wolfch-20240901151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 15:43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901154300-Wolfch-20240901151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901154300-Wolfch-20240901151900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YouCountry-20240901153700-Wolfch-20240901151900"></span>不说别的，就“同学会”一栏，有任何一句话应该出现在维基百科里面吗？“杰出表现”一栏又是在做什么？--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:YouCountry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:YouCountry（页面不存在）">YouCountry</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YouCountry" title="User talk:YouCountry">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YouCountry-20240901153700-Wolfch-20240901151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 15:37 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YouCountry-20240901153700-Wolfch-20240901151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YouCountry-20240901153700-Wolfch-20240901151900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901155900-YouCountry-20240901153700"></span>就再回你一次，此在維基合理合宜收錄</dd> <dd>1.條目-期史、同學會，等同優良條目-陸軍官校-校史、校友會之編述。</dd> <dd>2.條目-傑出表現，等同優良條目-陸軍官校-著名校友之編述。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901155900-YouCountry-20240901153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 15:59 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901155900-YouCountry-20240901153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901155900-YouCountry-20240901153700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YouCountry-20240901160400-Chinuan12623-20240901155900"></span>你这个注册维基百科12年的老人是不是从来没看过<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">WP:NOT</a>？--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:YouCountry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:YouCountry（页面不存在）">YouCountry</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YouCountry" title="User talk:YouCountry">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YouCountry-20240901160400-Chinuan12623-20240901155900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 16:04 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YouCountry-20240901160400-Chinuan12623-20240901155900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YouCountry-20240901160400-Chinuan12623-20240901155900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901161300-YouCountry-20240901160400"></span>在進維基不久，多用-歡迎新人加入維基，不會用資淺詞。</dd> <dd>但進入久宜用-資深用戶，而不會用-老人這鄙詞--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901161300-YouCountry-20240901160400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 16:13 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901161300-YouCountry-20240901160400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901161300-YouCountry-20240901160400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YouCountry-20240901161800-Chinuan12623-20240901161300"></span>这是啥“鄙词”，你叫我新人，我叫你老人，刚好而已，况且事实如此。你作为一个注册维基百科12年的老人（虽然似乎没看过<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">WP:NOT</a>）不感到自豪吗？你在中文维百活跃了12年，应该已经很熟悉维百的各类方针，贡献了很多优质内容，并获得其他维基人的肯定和尊敬了吧？你没有吗？--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:YouCountry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:YouCountry（页面不存在）">YouCountry</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YouCountry" title="User talk:YouCountry">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YouCountry-20240901161800-Chinuan12623-20240901161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 16:18 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YouCountry-20240901161800-Chinuan12623-20240901161300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YouCountry-20240901161800-Chinuan12623-20240901161300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240902011100-Chinuan12623-20240901155900"></span>在陸軍官校-著名校友中，列出的有中華民國及中華人民共和國的高級將領，立法委員、政黨副主席、白色恐怖受難者、前高雄市長等人，都是著名，有關注度的人物。我贊成將此條目的「傑出表現」改為「著名校友」，依類似的原則調整該段落內容。</dd> <dd>目前的內容，若放在專屬網頁或部落格中，完全沒有問題，若要放在維基百科裡，我會建議比照優良條目陸軍官校的寫法來處理--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240902011100-Chinuan12623-20240901155900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 01:11 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240902011100-Chinuan12623-20240901155900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240902011100-Chinuan12623-20240901155900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240902020800-Wolfch-20240902011100"></span>1.陸官會成優良條目，是有很多喜歡「黃埔」的人去協作，但陸官之-著名校友-多只列平、戰時之重要軍職，卻未列事蹟引來源。而專五期條目-傑出表現，不是只在將軍，現無戰事時期，重在高階公務級及職、退後之優異表現，為提昇採計標準，專列人在公務門「科長」職以上，及在「県市級、軍總級」以上，有獲獎來源事蹟的獎狀獎章人員，（不含累功、年積、感謝狀），有曾任職公務門的，應多知這獲獎難度很高。</dd> <dd>2.此條目要朝優良條目，他不似黃埔聲，能獲推新，與前、此次多票認同保留，已不易，不作他想。</dd> <dd>3.先依你建議，將-𠍇出表現，改為-著名校友。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240902020800-Wolfch-20240902011100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 02:08 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240902020800-Wolfch-20240902011100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240902020800-Wolfch-20240902011100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240902031200-Chinuan12623-20240902020800"></span>在<a href="/wiki/WikiProject:%E5%AD%B8%E6%A0%A1/%E6%A2%9D%E7%9B%AE%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="WikiProject:學校/條目指引">WikiProject:學校/條目指引</a>的"其他章節"中有提到"知名校友：若可能，提供具關注度的校友名單，並列出適當、可查證的細節。"。我會認為此處只需列出具關注度的校友，並適當說明細節即可。目前列的太細了。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240902031200-Chinuan12623-20240902020800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 03:12 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240902031200-Chinuan12623-20240902020800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240902031200-Chinuan12623-20240902020800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240901160100-YouCountry-20240901153700"></span>老實說, 參與此一條目的存廢討論, 且站刪除方，要刪除歷時已久，有許多內容的條目，本身就是一個吃力不討好的工作。維基百科條目要加內容不太會有人反對，要刪內容或是刪條目則不然，容易有多方反對，要說服大家。</dd> <dd>為什麼要刪呢。簡單來說，就是認為條目問題很多，難以維護，才會有要刪除條目的下下策。以這個條目來說，若可以在大家沒有爭議的前提下，透過簡單的修改就可以修正問題，至少我是不會提刪除票的。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240901160100-YouCountry-20240901153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 16:01 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240901160100-YouCountry-20240901153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240901160100-YouCountry-20240901153700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240901160300-YouCountry-20240901153700"></span>另外，我將我認為條目要修改的地方寫在<a href="/wiki/Talk:%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E9%99%B8%E8%BB%8D%E5%AE%98%E6%A0%A1%E5%B0%88%E7%A7%91%E4%BA%94%E6%9C%9F#條目需要編修的原因" title="Talk:中華民國陸軍官校專科五期">Talk:中華民國陸軍官校專科五期#條目需要編修的原因</a>了。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240901160300-YouCountry-20240901153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 16:03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240901160300-YouCountry-20240901153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240901160300-YouCountry-20240901153700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901161900-Wolfch-20240901160300"></span>1.不需這麽煩麻，已絕對多數保留意見，如又第二次獲裁-保留，可視同合宜穩定版本。</dd> <dd>2.你提修編原因，自不見於主流意見。你知道嗎，在這頁討論其間，已有管理員及用戶對這條目修飾，只要合宜，前協作者會認同。</dd> <dd>3.將此頁討論連結於條目討論頁即可--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901161900-Wolfch-20240901160300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 16:19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901161900-Wolfch-20240901160300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901161900-Wolfch-20240901160300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240902032100-Chinuan12623-20240901161900"></span>1.大家對"合宜穩定版本"的認知可能有所不同。對我來說，若有維基人提出條目不符合維基百科方針指引之處，此問題又沒有處理，我不會認為這是"合宜"的版本。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240902032100-Chinuan12623-20240901161900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 03:21 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240902032100-Chinuan12623-20240901161900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240902032100-Chinuan12623-20240901161900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240902032100-Chinuan12623-20240901161900-1"></span>2.此條目是在維基百科上，我想，需考慮的不單單是「前協作者是否認同」。維基百科對條目有相關的規定。您曾說：「（此條目）未違中立、廣宣，」，但具體說明的部份其實不多，我會比較在意此條目是否符合維基百科的方針及指引--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240902032100-Chinuan12623-20240901161900-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月2日 (一) 03:21 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240902032100-Chinuan12623-20240901161900-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240902032100-Chinuan12623-20240901161900-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240904115300-Wolfch-20240902032100"></span>1.你說-大家對"合宜穩定版本"的認知可能有所不同。）</dd> <dd>而對我來說，維基百科方針指引，許多人也有各自看法解讀不同，所以會有討論、編輯戰及管理員之調處。</dd> <dd>2.條目沒有百分百完美的，在沒有編輯戰及管理員需調處的，我會普認是「當前」合宜穩定的版本。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240904115300-Wolfch-20240902032100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月4日 (三) 11:53 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240904115300-Wolfch-20240902032100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240904115300-Wolfch-20240902032100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liao3558-20240831131100-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>本條目有參考依據,值得（o）保留。Liao3558（留言）--<a href="/wiki/User:Liao3558" title="User:Liao3558">liao3558</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liao3558" title="User talk:Liao3558">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Liao3558-20240831131100-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 13:11 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liao3558-20240831131100-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liao3558-20240831131100-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WiiUf-20240831134500-Liao3558-20240831131100"></span>建議您用保留模板（{{保留}})來表達意見。--<a href="/wiki/User:WiiUf" title="User:WiiUf"><span style="color:#00A0A0;"><b>WiiUf</b></span></a><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:WiiUf" title="User talk:WiiUf"><span style="color:#F27310;"><b> ——青龍出世，傲視蒼穹</b></span></a></small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WiiUf-20240831134500-Liao3558-20240831131100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 13:45 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WiiUf-20240831134500-Liao3558-20240831131100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WiiUf-20240831134500-Liao3558-20240831131100"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold;background:#D2691E;color:white;"><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240831164800-Liao3558-20240831131100"></span>(～)</b></span><b>補充</b>，以上兩位在這項存廢討論之前各已2、3年未有編輯紀錄，沒有惡意，但還是請其他使用者多加注意。--<a href="/wiki/User:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #D94DFF;"><b>William</b></span></a> <span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #008B8B"><b>is</b></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User talk:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #FF0000;"><b> Wikipedia!</b></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240831164800-Liao3558-20240831131100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 16:48 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240831164800-Liao3558-20240831131100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240831164800-Liao3558-20240831131100"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold;background:#D2691E;color:white;"><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901035600-Liao3558-20240831131100"></span>(～)</b></span><b>補充</b></dd> <dd>1.有用戶已對-新人提案<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YouCountry" title="User talk:YouCountry">留言</a>旨提不宜內容-進行移除和修飾，或許他認為該處沒關注度吧。歡迎新人加入維基。</dd> <dd>2.已對質疑項都釋疑了。不建議在此原有論者似為反對而反對又徒增反述理由。</dd> <dd>3.條目沒有無缺完美版，但這裡不也有人說這條目略看近GA優良條目的標準。<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240901035600-Liao3558-20240831131100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月1日 (日) 03:56 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240901035600-Liao3558-20240831131100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240901035600-Liao3558-20240831131100"></span></dd> <dd><span lang="zh-Hant" class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold;background-color:#EDE275;color:#DB6D00"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240904193600-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span>(！)</span><b>意見</b> 請保留（o）當前條目，就疑方所提釋疑綜整如下：</dd> <dd>1.軍事院校條目是不同於一般條目，我多以主編-陸官-優良條目之「格式」來編寫-陸官專五期。</dd> <dd>2.太過瑣碎之虞？陸官條目的讀者也不是都陸官校友，在我主編獲優良條目後，已有多數人再擴充，多在-校史，而其-校友會則多有五個章節。見專五期-期史已固定，多未再擴充，同學會-因是現行組織，也是偶增年會事宜，相較於母校之述，篇幅很低的。</dd> <dd>3.提刪人「理由」，專五期-在校長官不宜列（他已刪），但陸官黃埔創校-期史-就列了有當時卅餘名「黃埔老師及幹部」名字，就是類述。</dd> <dd>4.陸官-著名校友-多只列平、戰時之重要軍職，卻未列事蹟引來源。而專五期條目-傑出表現，不是只在將軍，此現無戰事時期，重在高階公務級，與在職、退後之優異表現。為提昇採計標準，專列在公務門「科長」職以上，及在「県市級、軍總級」以上，有獲獎來源事蹟的獎狀獎章人員，（不含累功、年積、感謝狀），有曾任職公務門的，應多知此獲獎難度很高。然若雙方認僵在此，我認為非戰爭時期，不是只有將軍才是傑出表現，又不是黃埔多戰時將領。故陸官專五期-著名校友-應以三位將領、總統府「褒揚令」與軍事校友會授證之「傑出校友」實之，不宜再過度精簡。</dd> <dd>5.陸官有表格化-歷任校長及任期，在專五期-同學會-中是採維基化來提介歴屆理事長，也是類述。</dd> <dd>6.校歌已移除。而相關黃埔歌曲，當然是黃埔人都會的，但看此段落宜就主體一次性便於閱讀，若再連移至他條目，不也似麻煩，況且內容已較陸官述的刪少很多。</dd> <dd>7.期團及活動-如行義團、網路文物舘（類校史舘）、凱道正步、刺槍、環𡷊、慢壘、捐血…等都是公益、健身亦增進國防教育，怎會是廣宣，本希可引拋磗引玉之效，稍述些始末，正常無妨。</dd> <dd>8.條目不是每一句都要有來源，那會類似抄襲，但我會儘可能每段落都給他引述來源。</dd> <dd>9.本條目在現討論期間，已有管理員及多名用戶做內容調修，當前版本應為合宜穩定版本。</dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240904193600-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月4日 (三) 19:36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240904193600-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240904193600-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span> </p> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240906001100-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240906001100-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 00:11 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240906001100-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240906001100-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240906021900-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span>(○)</span><b>快速保留</b>中華民國陸軍官校專科五期，請予（保留），此在上討論已久，也多改善及說明：</dd> <dd>1.提案人原提刪（原由）已劃刪了，質疑處我也說明，其也已多日也未再參與討論。</dd> <dd>2.另Wolfch質疑項，我也回復。又Wolfch也述不再發言，且他也認為存廢討論看下來，條目大概不會被刪。</dd> <dd>3.餘參論6人均表示同意（保留）。就2.3項應可視為<b>絕多數之保留共識</b>。</dd> <dd>4.我也總結這條目原先質疑項，釋疑在上頁最後，參見。</dd> <dd>5.這條目在這期間，有管理員、我與幾位用戶對此條目再調節，而近些日也無其他用戶對條目再異或修編，當前版本應可為合宜穩定版本。</dd> <dd>6.此條先前已獲8票推新，前次提刪除提案人，餘5人均為保留票，也有管理員肯定對此條目之編創，和有人說此略近優良條目。併參。</dd> <dd>綜上：不想冗佔維基人時間與資源，請對此提刪案-核予保留。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240906021900-Manchiu-20240906001100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 02:19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240906021900-Manchiu-20240906001100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240906021900-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span> <dl><dd><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold; background-color:#ffd700; color:#8b0000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YouCountry-20240906041700-Chinuan12623-20240906021900"></span>(※)</span><b>注意</b>，1. 我划删的<b>不是</b>我的提删理由，只是佐证我提出的<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IINFO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IINFO">WP:IINFO</a>的一个例子，划删只因这单个例子已被移除。</dd> <dd>2. 提出保留意见的<a href="/wiki/User:Chungmasayoshi" title="User:Chungmasayoshi">User:Chungmasayoshi</a>和<a href="/wiki/User:Liao3558" title="User:Liao3558">User:Liao3558</a>明显为<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">WP:SPA</a>。</dd> <dd>3. 请诸位自行判断，此人在我提删后对条目的编辑是否已改善条目至“合宜稳定”状态：<a href="/wiki/Special:%E5%B7%AE%E5%BC%82/84075908/84105802" title="Special:差异/84075908/84105802">Special:diff/84075908/84105802</a>--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:YouCountry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:YouCountry（页面不存在）">YouCountry</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YouCountry" title="User talk:YouCountry">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YouCountry-20240906041700-Chinuan12623-20240906021900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 04:17 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YouCountry-20240906041700-Chinuan12623-20240906021900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YouCountry-20240906041700-Chinuan12623-20240906021900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240906120900-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span>(✓)</span>已改善</span>編源碼較不易解讀，請大家檢視<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E9%99%B8%E8%BB%8D%E5%AE%98%E6%A0%A1%E5%B0%88%E7%A7%91%E4%BA%94%E6%9C%9F" title="中華民國陸軍官校專科五期">中華民國陸軍官校專科五期</a>正文是否為合宜稳定状态。另（管理員Antigng於2017年裁示-<b>中華民國陸軍官校專科五期-不能证明内容有违中立性、违反NOT、有自我宣傳問題</b>）。<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240906120900-Manchiu-20240906001100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 12:09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240906120900-Manchiu-20240906001100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240906120900-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ohtashinichiro-20240906025800-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span>(×)</span><b>快速删除</b>，G11。->><a href="/wiki/User:Ohtashinichiro" title="User:Ohtashinichiro"><span style="color: #DC143C;"><b>Vocal&Guitar</b></span></a>->><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ohtashinichiro" title="User talk:Ohtashinichiro">留言</a></sub> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Ohtashinichiro-20240906025800-Manchiu-20240906001100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 02:58 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ohtashinichiro-20240906025800-Manchiu-20240906001100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ohtashinichiro-20240906025800-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" lang="zh-Hant" style="font-weight: bold; color:#FFCD71; background-color: #DB6D00;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240906035000-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span>(：)</span><b>回應</b>，條目多同與本人主編-陸軍官校-方式建立，陸官-也非僅黃埔人看讀而有宣傳之條目，同上（管理員Antigng於2017年裁示-<b>中華民國陸軍官校專科五期-不能证明内容有违中立性、违反NOT、有自我宣傳問題</b>）。--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240906035000-Manchiu-20240906001100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 03:50 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240906035000-Manchiu-20240906001100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240906035000-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span></dd> <dd><span lang="zh-Hant" class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold;background-color:#EDE275;color:#DB6D00"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240907030000-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span>(！)</span><b>意見</b>感覺這個確實有改善空間，但是看起來像廣告。--希望支持<a href="/wiki/%E8%B5%96%E6%B8%85%E5%BE%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="赖清德">台独金孙</a>的台湾人被<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%8B%E8%BB%8D" title="中華民國國軍">台独武装</a>强制拉去做<a href="/wiki/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E6%B5%B7%E5%B3%BD%E5%8D%B1%E6%A9%9F" class="mw-redirect" title="台灣海峽危機">填线宝宝</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240907030000-Manchiu-20240906001100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月7日 (六) 03:00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240907030000-Manchiu-20240906001100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240907030000-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold; background-color:#ffd700; color:#8b0000;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240907031100-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span>(※)</span><b>注意</b>樓上貌似來亂，不應在此有統獨宣傳--<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240907031100-Manchiu-20240906001100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月7日 (六) 03:11 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240907031100-Manchiu-20240906001100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240907031100-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240907051800-Chinuan12623-20240907031100"></span>之前看到有人在簽名調侃國民黨要求中國更名大陸這件事<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://udn.com/news/story/6656/7936971">[5]</a>所以在簽名中宣傳兩岸統一有何問題？--希望支持<a href="/wiki/%E8%B5%96%E6%B8%85%E5%BE%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="赖清德">台独金孙</a>的台湾人被<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%8B%E8%BB%8D" title="中華民國國軍">台独武装</a>强制拉去做<a href="/wiki/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E6%B5%B7%E5%B3%BD%E5%8D%B1%E6%A9%9F" class="mw-redirect" title="台灣海峽危機">填线宝宝</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240907051800-Chinuan12623-20240907031100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月7日 (六) 05:18 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240907051800-Chinuan12623-20240907031100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240907051800-Chinuan12623-20240907031100"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight:bold;background:#D2691E;color:white;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240912152600-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span>'<i>(～)<b></b></i></span><i>補充'</i><b>四名管理員之相關見解</b>。本條目前獲八票DYK。見有前例<b>獲DYK後又提刪之案例，行政員之裁處:快速保留</b></dd> <dd>1.行政員Kegns裁示2012年8月-发正念條目登上DYK，依据WP:SK予以快速保留。</dd> <dd>2.行政員Jimmy Xu裁示2013年5月-维基人上首页了，快速保留。</dd> <dd>3.管理員Antigng於2017年裁示-<b>中華民國陸軍官校專科五期-不能证明内容有违中立性、违反NOT、有自我宣傳問題</b>。</dd> <dd>4.管理員Outlookxp在2014年表示-我來到維基已經快十年了，有件事要跟您說抱歉～「中華民國陸軍官校專科五期」我心中後悔沒有協助您去改善。好在您不氣餒，又補充資料來建立，不然，我又趕跑了有潛力的新人了，希望維基能增加越多人才。）<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623#top" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240912152600-Manchiu-20240906001100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月12日 (四) 15:26 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240912152600-Manchiu-20240906001100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240912152600-Manchiu-20240906001100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240914021600-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240914021600-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 02:16 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240914021600-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240914021600-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wolfch-20240914102500-Manchiu-20240914021600"></span>我已和相關維基人提過，我暫時不會處理此條目以及其存廢討論。不過，有關Chinuan12623所述：「另Wolfch質疑項，我也回復。又Wolfch也述不再發言，且他也認為存廢討論看下來，條目大概不會被刪。」，我想再做些說明。</dd> <dd>1.我所質疑的項目，Chinuan12623有修改一些，有些他認為不需修改（這部份我和他的意見不同，這也是我目前還是認為要刪除條目的原因）。</dd> <dd>2.我曾經提過：「此存廢討論目前看下來，條目大概不會被刪。」是根據存廢討論中，表示要刪除的意見還不是壓倒性多數，因此所作的結論。我還是認為條目要刪除，只是目前存廢討論情形來看，若最後無法刪除，我可以理解。我對於Chinuan12623引用我的話來希望保留條目一事，不予置評。--<a href="/wiki/User:Wolfch" title="User:Wolfch">Wolfch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wolfch" title="User talk:Wolfch">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Wolfch-20240914102500-Manchiu-20240914021600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 10:25 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wolfch-20240914102500-Manchiu-20240914021600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wolfch-20240914102500-Manchiu-20240914021600"></span></dd> <dd><span class="skin-invert" lang="zh-Hant" style="font-weight: bold; color:#FFCD71; background-color: #DB6D00;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinuan12623-20240914150600-Manchiu-20240914021600"></span>(：)</span><b>回應</b></dd> <dd>1.在Wolfch説在此停論前，其質疑項，請我舉出獲DYK後又為管理員裁處:快速保留案例。 <dl><dd>說明：現在引行政員見解（Kegns裁示2012年8月-发正念條目登上DYK，依据WP:SK予以快速保留。Jimmy Xu裁示2013年5月-维基人上首页了，快速保留）。</dd></dl></dd> <dd>2.Wolfch説條目瑣碎廣宣，他有修一些，但有些是我認為不需修，二人意見不同。</dd> <dd>又提刪人YouCountry不知始末下，以條目雜細、違中立性、违反NOT、有自我宣傳來提刪。 <dl><dd>說明：這條目當前不是只我修改，有管理員及用戶約十人來調修改，<b>沒有只Wolfch和我二人認為哪可修哪不可修之問題，當前版本是共同協作與優化</b>。尊重Wolfch表示目前存廢討論情形來看，條目大概不會被刪，若最後無法刪除，他可以理解。 <dl><dd>再說明：條目在提刪日之章節篇幅，與2017年版本相去不遠。引管理員Antigng於2017年裁示-見Mapayna向管理員Antigng舉報-中華民國陸軍官校專科五期-是自我宣傳，遭管理員Antigng表示:拒绝。条目内文未见明显的不中立之处。一般的WP:NPOV和WP:NOT问题通常无法被证明符合此定义。这也就导致不同的人对NPOV和NOT的判定标准不同。就观点为例：您认为是“鸡毛蒜皮的小事”，不值得收录，也许他就认为是值得收录；您认为是“雜項資料”，也许他就认为具有重要的意义。所以<b>事实上并不能证明内容有違中立性问题、违反NOT的问题，将这些内容加入条目，以危害维基百科的正确完整性</b>。</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>3.見wolfch已刪除"關注度不足"的原因）。本人也提請注意-條目在被提刪時已有很多關注度來源。而W君在此頁剩一個疑項未劃除，本人釋出善意就如其所言-校歌移除，沿用陸官。就合理性而言，疑項皆除，不應再有為反對而反對之舉。<a href="/wiki/User:Chinuan12623" title="User:Chinuan12623">Chinuan12623</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinuan12623" title="User talk:Chinuan12623">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Chinuan12623-20240914150600-Manchiu-20240914021600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 15:06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinuan12623-20240914150600-Manchiu-20240914021600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinuan12623-20240914150600-Manchiu-20240914021600"></span></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240921003500-Manchiu-20240914021600"></span>無共識。--<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240921003500-Manchiu-20240914021600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 00:35 (UTC)</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=8" title="编辑章节：張志達"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-張志達"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a></b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>重新提交</b>到<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/22#張志達" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22#張志達</a>。--<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240922002700-張志達" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月22日 (日) 00:27 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-張志達"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-張志達"></span> </p> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="童雪兒" data-mw-thread-id="h-童雪兒-20240922002700"><span id=".E7.AB.A5.E9.9B.AA.E5.85.92"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-童雪兒-20240922002700"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E7%AB%A5%E9%9B%AA%E5%85%92&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="童雪兒（页面不存在）">童雪兒</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-童雪兒-20240922002700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=9" title="编辑章节：童雪兒"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-童雪兒"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a></b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>重新提交</b>到<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/22#童雪兒" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22#童雪兒</a>。--<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240922002700-童雪兒" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月22日 (日) 00:27 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-童雪兒"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240922002700-童雪兒"></span> </p> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="台独武装" data-mw-thread-id="h-台独武装-20240906025400"><span id=".E5.8F.B0.E7.8B.AC.E6.AD.A6.E8.A3.85"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-台独武装-20240906025400"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E5%8F%B0%E7%8B%AC%E6%AD%A6%E8%A3%85&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="台独武装（页面不存在）">台独武装</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-台独武装-20240906025400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=10" title="编辑章节：台独武装"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ericliu1912-20240906025400-台独武装"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，以上页面已<b>刪除</b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p>转交自<a href="/wiki/Category:%E5%BF%AB%E9%80%9F%E5%88%A0%E9%99%A4%E5%80%99%E9%80%89" title="Category:快速删除候选">快速删除候选</a>，原提交人<a href="/wiki/User:%E8%87%AA%E7%94%B1%E9%9B%A8%E6%97%A5" title="User:自由雨日">自由雨日</a>提交<span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert">(×)</span><b>删除</b>理据：<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#G3" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">G3</a>: 纯粹<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAN">破坏</a>，包括但不限于明显的<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HOAX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HOAX">恶作剧</a>、错误信息、<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PA">人身攻击</a>等<br/> 轉交理由：固不屬純粹破壞，惟顯有爭議（見討論頁），故予以轉交。 </p> <dl><dd>提交的維基人及時間：<b><a href="/wiki/User:Ericliu1912" title="User:Ericliu1912">Eric Liu</a></b><sub> 創造は生命（<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ericliu1912" title="User talk:Ericliu1912">留言</a>・<a href="/wiki/User:Ericliu1912#訪客芳名錄" title="User:Ericliu1912">留名</a>・<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E5%AD%B8%E7%94%9F%E6%9C%83" title="Wikipedia:維基學生會">學生會</a></b>）</sub> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Ericliu1912-20240906025400-台独武装" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 02:54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ericliu1912-20240906025400-台独武装"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ericliu1912-20240906025400-台独武装"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-自由雨日-20240906054500-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span>（原讨论链接：《<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:%E5%8F%B0%E7%8B%AC%E6%AD%A6%E8%A3%85&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:台独武装（页面不存在）">talk:台独武装</a>》）--<span style="font-family:cursive"><a href="/wiki/User:%E8%87%AA%E7%94%B1%E9%9B%A8%E6%97%A5" title="User:自由雨日">自由雨日</a>🌧️<small>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E8%87%AA%E7%94%B1%E9%9B%A8%E6%97%A5" title="User talk:自由雨日">留言</a>｜<a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/%E8%87%AA%E7%94%B1%E9%9B%A8%E6%97%A5" title="Special:用户贡献/自由雨日">贡献</a>）</small></span> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-自由雨日-20240906054500-Ericliu1912-20240906025400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 05:45 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-自由雨日-20240906054500-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-自由雨日-20240906054500-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906032700-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>目前中国大陆官方媒体以及国防部（軍方）新闻稿均有提及该词作为台军高层的贬称。（跟合併到<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%8D%8E%E6%B0%91%E5%9B%BD%E5%9B%BD%E5%86%9B" class="mw-redirect" title="中华民国国军">中华民国国军</a>的另外一个贬称<a href="/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E6%B0%91%E5%85%9A%E5%86%9B" class="mw-redirect" title="国民党军">国民党军</a>一樣）<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-7"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-8"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>--希望台湾人早日成为<a href="/wiki/%E4%BF%84%E7%BD%97%E6%96%AF%E5%85%A5%E4%BE%B5%E4%B9%8C%E5%85%8B%E5%85%B0" class="mw-redirect" title="俄罗斯入侵乌克兰">填线宝宝</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906032700-Ericliu1912-20240906025400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 03:27 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906032700-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906032700-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span>(×)</span><b>删除</b>，無法完全劃上等號的事物，且續留可能會引發高度爭議。--<a href="/wiki/User:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #D94DFF;"><b>William</b></span></a> <span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #008B8B"><b>is</b></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User talk:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #FF0000;"><b> Wikipedia!</b></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200-Ericliu1912-20240906025400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 05:42 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906055300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200"></span>之前有人要求将国民党军以及蒋军这两个贬称合并到中华民国国军时候，當時没见其他人反对。<a class="external autonumber" href="https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/08/09#国民党军队">[6]</a>--希望台湾人早日成为<a href="/wiki/%E4%BF%84%E7%BD%97%E6%96%AF%E5%85%A5%E4%BE%B5%E4%B9%8C%E5%85%8B%E5%85%B0" class="mw-redirect" title="俄罗斯入侵乌克兰">填线宝宝</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906055300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 05:53 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906055300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906055300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906055600-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200"></span>請就這個條目進行討論，並非每人都有能力關注每個存廢，當時不發表意見不代表我不反對。--<a href="/wiki/User:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #D94DFF;"><b>William</b></span></a> <span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #008B8B"><b>is</b></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User talk:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #FF0000;"><b> Wikipedia!</b></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906055600-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 05:56 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906055600-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906055600-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906054200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906070000-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906055600"></span>至少在官方的新闻稿中都是有提及这个词，主要的问题是这个词该怎么解读罢了。--希望台湾人早日成为<a href="/wiki/%E4%BF%84%E7%BD%97%E6%96%AF%E5%85%A5%E4%BE%B5%E4%B9%8C%E5%85%8B%E5%85%B0" class="mw-redirect" title="俄罗斯入侵乌克兰">填线宝宝</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906070000-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906055600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 07:00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906070000-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906055600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906070000-WilliamSkyWalk-20240906055600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sanmosa-20240906074400-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span>(×)</span><b>删除</b>：指代可能並不唯一且不完全對應。<a href="/wiki/User:Sanmosa" title="User:Sanmosa">San</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sanmosa" title="User talk:Sanmosa">mo</a><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/Sanmosa" title="Special:用户贡献/Sanmosa">sa</a> <sub><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%8B%95%E5%93%A1%E4%BB%A4/%E7%AC%AC%E4%BA%8C%E5%8D%81%E4%BA%8C%E6%AC%A1%E5%8B%95%E5%93%A1%E4%BB%A4/%E5%80%8B%E4%BA%BA%E8%B2%A2%E7%8D%BB/Sanmosa" title="Wikipedia:動員令/第二十二次動員令/個人貢獻/Sanmosa">DC</a></sub> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Sanmosa-20240906074400-Ericliu1912-20240906025400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 07:44 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sanmosa-20240906074400-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sanmosa-20240906074400-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906084900-Sanmosa-20240906074400"></span>但是目前搜寻到的结果都是跟台军有关的内容。（单指台独武装一词）--希望台湾人早日成为<a href="/wiki/%E4%BF%84%E7%BD%97%E6%96%AF%E5%85%A5%E4%BE%B5%E4%B9%8C%E5%85%8B%E5%85%B0" class="mw-redirect" title="俄罗斯入侵乌克兰">填线宝宝</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906084900-Sanmosa-20240906074400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 08:49 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906084900-Sanmosa-20240906074400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906084900-Sanmosa-20240906074400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130000-Sanmosa-20240906074400"></span>但是搜索台湾独立武装有其他结果，但是跟国防部官方说法无关<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.gov.cn/test/2006-04/26/content_266050.htm">[7]</a>--希望支持<a href="/wiki/%E8%B5%96%E6%B8%85%E5%BE%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="赖清德">台独金孙</a>的台湾人被<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%8B%E8%BB%8D" title="中華民國國軍">台独武装</a>强制拉去做<a href="/wiki/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E6%B5%B7%E5%B3%BD%E5%8D%B1%E6%A9%9F" class="mw-redirect" title="台灣海峽危機">填线宝宝</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130000-Sanmosa-20240906074400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 13:00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130000-Sanmosa-20240906074400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130000-Sanmosa-20240906074400"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YFdyh000-20240906125900-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span>(×)</span><b>删除</b> 非对等。不能作解释的重定向不妥。另见讨论页。--<a href="/wiki/User:YFdyh000" title="User:YFdyh000"><span style="color:#0000DD;">YF</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/YFdyh000" title="Special:用户贡献/YFdyh000"><span style="color:steelblue;">dyh000</span></a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YFdyh000" title="User talk:YFdyh000">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YFdyh000-20240906125900-Ericliu1912-20240906025400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 12:59 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YFdyh000-20240906125900-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500-YFdyh000-20240906125900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 13:05 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500-YFdyh000-20240906125900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500-YFdyh000-20240906125900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500-YFdyh000-20240906125900-1"></span>既然其他的貶稱可以從定向到中華民國國軍，台獨武裝自然也可以。（東方日報的文章明確提及是中方首次使用台独武装來稱呼中華民國國軍）--希望支持<a href="/wiki/%E8%B5%96%E6%B8%85%E5%BE%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="赖清德">台独金孙</a>的台湾人被<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%8B%E8%BB%8D" title="中華民國國軍">台独武装</a>强制拉去做<a href="/wiki/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E6%B5%B7%E5%B3%BD%E5%8D%B1%E6%A9%9F" class="mw-redirect" title="台灣海峽危機">填线宝宝</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500-YFdyh000-20240906125900-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 13:05 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500-YFdyh000-20240906125900-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500-YFdyh000-20240906125900-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YFdyh000-20240906140000-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500"></span>“其他的贬称可以从定向到中华民国国军”请举例。--<a href="/wiki/User:YFdyh000" title="User:YFdyh000"><span style="color:#0000DD;">YF</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/YFdyh000" title="Special:用户贡献/YFdyh000"><span style="color:steelblue;">dyh000</span></a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YFdyh000" title="User talk:YFdyh000">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YFdyh000-20240906140000-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 14:00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YFdyh000-20240906140000-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YFdyh000-20240906140000-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906130500"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E6%B0%91%E5%85%9A%E5%86%9B%E9%98%9F" title="国民党军队"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906141400-YFdyh000-20240906140000"></span>国民党军队</a>和<a href="/wiki/%E8%92%8B%E5%86%9B" class="mw-redirect" title="蒋军">蒋军</a>这两个贬称的独立条目在之前的存废讨论就有共识把条目内容合并到<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%8D%8E%E6%B0%91%E5%9B%BD%E5%9B%BD%E5%86%9B" class="mw-redirect" title="中华民国国军">中华民国国军</a>但目前尚未实施。--希望支持<a href="/wiki/%E8%B5%96%E6%B8%85%E5%BE%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="赖清德">台独金孙</a>的台湾人被<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%8B%E8%BB%8D" title="中華民國國軍">台独武装</a>强制拉去做<a href="/wiki/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E6%B5%B7%E5%B3%BD%E5%8D%B1%E6%A9%9F" class="mw-redirect" title="台灣海峽危機">填线宝宝</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906141400-YFdyh000-20240906140000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 14:14 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906141400-YFdyh000-20240906140000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906141400-YFdyh000-20240906140000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YFdyh000-20240906142100-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906141400"></span>共识结论不妥，两个讨论中都有异议存在，合并后可能会成为消歧义或者章节重定向。目前其链入重定向没有其他贬称。--<a href="/wiki/User:YFdyh000" title="User:YFdyh000"><span style="color:#0000DD;">YF</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/YFdyh000" title="Special:用户贡献/YFdyh000"><span style="color:steelblue;">dyh000</span></a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YFdyh000" title="User talk:YFdyh000">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YFdyh000-20240906142100-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906141400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 14:21 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YFdyh000-20240906142100-甜甜圈真好吃-20240906141400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-薏仁將-20240909212900-Ericliu1912-20240906025400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900-薏仁將-20240909212900"></span>然而其他的这类词汇粗诸如:<a href="/wiki/%E5%8F%B0%E6%B9%BE%E5%BD%93%E5%B1%80" title="台湾当局">台湾当局</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E5%8F%B0%E5%8C%97" title="中国台北">中国台北</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E6%B0%91%E5%85%9A%E5%86%9B" class="mw-redirect" title="国民党军">国民党军</a>以及<a href="/wiki/%E8%92%8B%E5%86%9B" class="mw-redirect" title="蒋军">蒋军</a>这种中国大陆单方面说法都是独立的条目或者重定向。既然其他的说法可以保留那台独武装和<a href="/wiki/%E6%8B%9C%E9%AC%BC" class="mw-redirect" title="拜鬼">拜鬼</a>这两个单方面说法为什么不能保留？（台独武装这个词是今年6月中国军方在香格里拉对话会提出的。而拜鬼这个词是中国大陆方面对于参拜靖国神社的说法）----<a href="/wiki/User:%E7%94%9C%E7%94%9C%E5%9C%88%E7%9C%9F%E5%A5%BD%E5%90%83" title="User:甜甜圈真好吃">甜甜圈</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900-薏仁將-20240909212900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月10日 (二) 03:09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900-薏仁將-20240909212900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900-薏仁將-20240909212900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-银色雪莉-20240910033600-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900"></span>只讨论“台独武装”：您前面举的四个词的定义指向都是明确而且单一的，而“台独武装”的定义，您自己之前给出的来源里，就至少有两种不同的说法了——因此我想拿这四个词和“台独武装”比是不太恰当的，这是没有找准问题的核心。事实上正如<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:R#DELETE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:R">WP:R#DELETE</a>第2条所指出的，该重定向可能导致混淆——这混淆的原因，就是因为概念的不稳定；而前面的四个词，则没有这个问题。我的看法是，这个词不作为重定向而作为具体内容写入其他合适的条目，又或者直接根据来源写成一个条目（以阁下此前提供的来源看，关注度应该问题不大），都比重定向来得妥帖。（PS：他人提删的，是重定向面貌下的该页面，这操作在目前并无不妥。）--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%93%B6%E8%89%B2%E9%9B%AA%E8%8E%89" title="User:银色雪莉">银色雪莉</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%93%B6%E8%89%B2%E9%9B%AA%E8%8E%89" title="User talk:银色雪莉">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-银色雪莉-20240910033600-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月10日 (二) 03:36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-银色雪莉-20240910033600-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-银色雪莉-20240910033600-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-银色雪莉-20240910035800-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900"></span>而且老实说，在您自己找到的来源所包含的内容已经超出了词义解释的程度的情况下，我不理解您为什么坚持其重定向的面貌（这里的意思是，我留意到您已经多次更换其重定向指向）而不选择把它写成一个独立条目。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%93%B6%E8%89%B2%E9%9B%AA%E8%8E%89" title="User:银色雪莉">银色雪莉</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%93%B6%E8%89%B2%E9%9B%AA%E8%8E%89" title="User talk:银色雪莉">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-银色雪莉-20240910035800-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月10日 (二) 03:58 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-银色雪莉-20240910035800-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910030900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="c-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910043200-银色雪莉-20240910035800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YFdyh000-20240910100700-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910043200"></span>之前指向和写于<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%8D%8E%E6%B0%91%E5%9B%BD%E5%9B%BD%E5%86%9B%E7%9A%84%E4%B8%91%E9%97%BB%E4%B8%8E%E4%BA%89%E8%AE%AE" title="中华民国国军的丑闻与争议">中华民国国军的丑闻与争议</a>恐怕不妥，更类似批评而非争议。重定向到<a href="/wiki/%E6%B6%89%E5%8F%B0%E7%94%A8%E8%AF%AD" title="涉台用语">涉台用语</a>中的锚点可能合适，但那样的话不重定向也是合适的，以及涉台用语中的介绍总结不确定是否妥当。--<a href="/wiki/User:YFdyh000" title="User:YFdyh000"><span style="color:#0000DD;">YF</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/YFdyh000" title="Special:用户贡献/YFdyh000"><span style="color:steelblue;">dyh000</span></a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YFdyh000" title="User talk:YFdyh000">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-YFdyh000-20240910100700-甜甜圈真好吃-20240910043200" 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title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fzh.wikipedia.org%3AWikipedia%3A%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%2F%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84%2F2024%2F09%2F14&rft.atitle=%E2%80%9C%E9%A6%96%E6%AC%A1%E7%A8%B1%E7%82%BA%E3%80%8C%E5%8F%B0%E7%8D%A8%E6%AD%A6%E8%A3%9D%E3%80%8D&rft.date=2024-06-08&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=%E4%B8%9C%E6%96%B9%E6%97%A5%E6%8A%A5&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fhk.on.cc%2Fhk%2Fbkn%2Fcnt%2Fcommentary%2F20240608%2Fmobile%2Fbkn-20240608000456561-0608_00832_001.html&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal" class="Z3988"><span style="display:none;"> </span></span></span> </li> </ol></div> </div> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;">為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240914021600-台独武装" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 02:16 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240914021600-台独武装"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240914021600-台独武装"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shizhao-20240921114200-Manchiu-20240914021600"></span>删除。--<a href="/wiki/User:Shizhao" title="User:Shizhao">百無一用是書生</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shizhao" title="User talk:Shizhao">☎</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shizhao-20240921114200-Manchiu-20240914021600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 11:42 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shizhao-20240921114200-Manchiu-20240914021600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shizhao-20240921114200-Manchiu-20240914021600"></span></dd></dl> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="批量提刪" data-mw-thread-id="h-批量提刪-20240821154000"><span id=".E6.89.B9.E9.87.8F.E6.8F.90.E5.88.AA"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-批量提刪-20240821154000"></span>批量提刪<span data-mw-comment-end="h-批量提刪-20240821154000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=11" title="编辑章节：批量提刪"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="亞通客運" data-mw-thread-id="h-亞通客運-批量提刪-20240821154000"><span id=".E4.BA.9E.E9.80.9A.E5.AE.A2.E9.81.8B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-亞通客運-批量提刪-20240821154000"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E4%BA%9E%E9%80%9A%E5%AE%A2%E9%81%8B&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="亞通客運（页面不存在）">亞通客運</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-亞通客運-批量提刪-20240821154000"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=12" title="编辑章节：亞通客運"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154000-亞通客運"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，以上页面已<b>保留</b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <ul><li><span style="font-weight: bold; color: blue; background: lightblue;" class="skin-invert">(►)</span><b>移动</b>到<a href="https://zh.wikiversity.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="v:">维基学院</a>，內容過度瑣碎。--<a href="/wiki/User:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #D94DFF;"><b>William</b></span></a> <span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #008B8B"><b>is</b></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User talk:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #FF0000;"><b> Wikipedia!</b></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154000-亞通客運" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月21日 (三) 15:40 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154000-亞通客運"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154000-亞通客運"></span></li> <li><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shopping0624-20240822120300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154000"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>：考量有公車迷會更新路線及車輛近況，建議暫時保留。<a href="/wiki/User:Shopping0624" title="User:Shopping0624">Shopping0624</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shopping0624" title="User talk:Shopping0624">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shopping0624-20240822120300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 12:03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shopping0624-20240822120300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shopping0624-20240822120300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154000"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-鐵路1-20240822121200-Shopping0624-20240822120300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Shopping0624" title="User:Shopping0624">Shopping0624</a>：</span>這些都是愛好者原創研究內容，不是維基百科收入標準。--<span style="background:#fff;padding:0.2em ;border:1px solid #000;border-radius:0.5em;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User:鐵路1">🚊　<span style="color:#000">鐵路Railway</span></a></b> </span><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User talk:鐵路1">論</a>．<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1/%E7%B0%BD%E5%90%8D%E6%9D%BF" title="User:鐵路1/簽名板">簽</a></sup> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-鐵路1-20240822121200-Shopping0624-20240822120300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 12:12 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-鐵路1-20240822121200-Shopping0624-20240822120300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-鐵路1-20240822121200-Shopping0624-20240822120300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shopping0624-20240822163900-鐵路1-20240822121200"></span>能理解您的說法，但如果藉因這結果刪除的話，可能有很多相關客運的頁面都會被刪除，屆時會造成部分反彈。--<a href="/wiki/User:Shopping0624" title="User:Shopping0624">Shopping0624</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shopping0624" title="User talk:Shopping0624">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shopping0624-20240822163900-鐵路1-20240822121200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 16:39 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shopping0624-20240822163900-鐵路1-20240822121200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shopping0624-20240822163900-鐵路1-20240822121200"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-鐵路1-20240822165500-Shopping0624-20240822163900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Shopping0624" title="User:Shopping0624">Shopping0624</a>：</span>如果能提供<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">可供查證</a>並且必須是<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">可靠的來源</a>，有<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">關注度</a>，同時不違反<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FAN">WP:FAN</a>的文獻自然就會保留下來。--<span style="background:#fff;padding:0.2em ;border:1px solid #000;border-radius:0.5em;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User:鐵路1">🚊　<span style="color:#000">鐵路Railway</span></a></b> </span><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User talk:鐵路1">論</a>．<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1/%E7%B0%BD%E5%90%8D%E6%9D%BF" title="User:鐵路1/簽名板">簽</a></sup> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-鐵路1-20240822165500-Shopping0624-20240822163900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 16:55 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-鐵路1-20240822165500-Shopping0624-20240822163900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-鐵路1-20240822165500-Shopping0624-20240822163900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240829010700-亞通客運"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240829010700-亞通客運" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月29日 (四) 01:07 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240829010700-亞通客運"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240829010700-亞通客運"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jason520395-20240831170300-Manchiu-20240829010700"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>：客運公司頁面應可留下並表示「小作品」，路線等過於詳細的內容移至維基學院。<span style="background:red;padding:0.1em 4px;border-radius:0.4em"><b> <a href="/wiki/User:Jason520395" title="User:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">Jason520395</span></a><span style="color:white"> | </span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jason520395" title="User talk:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">✉</span></a> </b></span> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Jason520395-20240831170300-Manchiu-20240829010700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 17:03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jason520395-20240831170300-Manchiu-20240829010700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jason520395-20240831170300-Manchiu-20240829010700"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Manchiu-20240829010700"></span>保留。--<a href="/wiki/User:Shizhao" title="User:Shizhao">百無一用是書生</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shizhao" title="User talk:Shizhao">☎</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Manchiu-20240829010700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 11:43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Manchiu-20240829010700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Manchiu-20240829010700"></span></dd></dl> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="台聯客運" data-mw-thread-id="h-台聯客運-批量提刪-20240821154100"><span id=".E5.8F.B0.E8.81.AF.E5.AE.A2.E9.81.8B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-台聯客運-批量提刪-20240821154100"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E5%8F%B0%E8%81%AF%E5%AE%A2%E9%81%8B&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="台聯客運（页面不存在）">台聯客運</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-台聯客運-批量提刪-20240821154100"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=13" title="编辑章节：台聯客運"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100-台聯客運"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，以上页面已<b>保留</b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <ul><li><span style="font-weight: bold; color: blue; background: lightblue;" class="skin-invert">(►)</span><b>移动</b>到<a href="https://zh.wikiversity.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="v:">维基学院</a>，內容過度瑣碎。--<a href="/wiki/User:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #D94DFF;"><b>William</b></span></a> <span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #008B8B"><b>is</b></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User talk:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #FF0000;"><b> Wikipedia!</b></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100-台聯客運" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月21日 (三) 15:41 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100-台聯客運"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100-台聯客運"></span></li> <li><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jason520395-20240831170400-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>：客運公司頁面應可留下並表示「小作品」，路線等過於詳細的內容移至維基學院。<span style="background:red;padding:0.1em 4px;border-radius:0.4em"><b> <a href="/wiki/User:Jason520395" title="User:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">Jason520395</span></a><span style="color:white"> | </span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jason520395" title="User talk:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">✉</span></a> </b></span> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Jason520395-20240831170400-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 17:04 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jason520395-20240831170400-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jason520395-20240831170400-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100"></span>保留。--<a href="/wiki/User:Shizhao" title="User:Shizhao">百無一用是書生</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shizhao" title="User talk:Shizhao">☎</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shizhao-20240921114300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 11:43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-WilliamSkyWalk-20240821154100"></span></dd></dl> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="三重客運" data-mw-thread-id="h-三重客運-批量提刪-20240822121000"><span id=".E4.B8.89.E9.87.8D.E5.AE.A2.E9.81.8B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-三重客運-批量提刪-20240822121000"></span><a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%89%E9%87%8D%E5%AE%A2%E9%81%8B" title="三重客運">三重客運</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-三重客運-批量提刪-20240822121000"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=14" title="编辑章节：三重客運"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shopping0624-20240822121000-三重客運"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，以上页面已<b>保留</b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <ul><li><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert">(○)</span>保留</span>：考量此頁面有查詢需求，建議保持原狀<a href="/wiki/User:Shopping0624" title="User:Shopping0624">Shopping0624</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shopping0624" title="User talk:Shopping0624">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shopping0624-20240822121000-三重客運" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 12:10 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shopping0624-20240822121000-三重客運"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shopping0624-20240822121000-三重客運"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patrickov-20240822150100-Shopping0624-20240822121000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Shopping0624" title="User:Shopping0624">Shopping0624</a>：</span>請問是甚麼查詢需求？--<a href="/wiki/User:Patrickov" title="User:Patrickov">派翠可夫</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patrickov" title="User talk:Patrickov">留言按此</a>)</small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Patrickov-20240822150100-Shopping0624-20240822121000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 15:01 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patrickov-20240822150100-Shopping0624-20240822121000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patrickov-20240822150100-Shopping0624-20240822121000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shopping0624-20240822164700-Shopping0624-20240822121000"></span>需查詢此業者相關路線及客運業者，使用者使用此頁面會較易查詢。--<a href="/wiki/User:Shopping0624" title="User:Shopping0624">Shopping0624</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shopping0624" title="User talk:Shopping0624">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shopping0624-20240822164700-Shopping0624-20240822121000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 16:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shopping0624-20240822164700-Shopping0624-20240822121000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shopping0624-20240822164700-Shopping0624-20240822121000"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240822172700-Shopping0624-20240822164700"></span>抱歉，但您提出的並不是一個保留的理由，更像是一個刪除的理由。請見<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">WP:NOT</a>。另一方面個人認為現在版本可予以保留。--<a href="/wiki/User:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #D94DFF;"><b>William</b></span></a> <span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #008B8B"><b>is</b></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User talk:WilliamSkyWalk"><span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #FF0000;"><b> Wikipedia!</b></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240822172700-Shopping0624-20240822164700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 17:27 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240822172700-Shopping0624-20240822164700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WilliamSkyWalk-20240822172700-Shopping0624-20240822164700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shopping0624-20240822211000-WilliamSkyWalk-20240822172700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:WilliamSkyWalk" title="User:WilliamSkyWalk">WilliamSkyWalk</a>回文錯誤，已更正--<a href="/wiki/User:Shopping0624" title="User:Shopping0624">Shopping0624</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shopping0624" title="User talk:Shopping0624">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shopping0624-20240822211000-WilliamSkyWalk-20240822172700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 21:10 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shopping0624-20240822211000-WilliamSkyWalk-20240822172700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shopping0624-20240822211000-WilliamSkyWalk-20240822172700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jason520395-20240831170400-Shopping0624-20240822121000"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>：客運公司頁面應可留下並表示「小作品」，路線等過於詳細的內容移至維基學院。<span style="background:red;padding:0.1em 4px;border-radius:0.4em"><b> <a href="/wiki/User:Jason520395" title="User:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">Jason520395</span></a><span style="color:white"> | </span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jason520395" title="User talk:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">✉</span></a> </b></span> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Jason520395-20240831170400-Shopping0624-20240822121000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 17:04 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jason520395-20240831170400-Shopping0624-20240822121000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jason520395-20240831170400-Shopping0624-20240822121000"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Shopping0624-20240822121000"></span>保留。--<a href="/wiki/User:Shizhao" title="User:Shizhao">百無一用是書生</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shizhao" title="User talk:Shizhao">☎</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Shopping0624-20240822121000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 11:43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Shopping0624-20240822121000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Shopping0624-20240822121000"></span></dd></dl> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="基隆客運" data-mw-thread-id="h-基隆客運-批量提刪-20240831170500"><span id=".E5.9F.BA.E9.9A.86.E5.AE.A2.E9.81.8B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-基隆客運-批量提刪-20240831170500"></span><a href="/wiki/%E5%9F%BA%E9%9A%86%E5%AE%A2%E9%81%8B" title="基隆客運">基隆客運</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-基隆客運-批量提刪-20240831170500"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=15" title="编辑章节：基隆客運"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jason520395-20240831170500-基隆客運"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，以上页面已<b>保留</b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <ul><li><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert">(○)</span>保留</span>：客運公司頁面應可留下並表示「小作品」，路線等過於詳細的內容移至維基學院。<span style="background:red;padding:0.1em 4px;border-radius:0.4em"><b> <a href="/wiki/User:Jason520395" title="User:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">Jason520395</span></a><span style="color:white"> | </span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jason520395" title="User talk:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">✉</span></a> </b></span> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Jason520395-20240831170500-基隆客運" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 17:05 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jason520395-20240831170500-基隆客運"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jason520395-20240831170500-基隆客運"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Jason520395-20240831170500"></span>保留。--<a href="/wiki/User:Shizhao" title="User:Shizhao">百無一用是書生</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shizhao" title="User talk:Shizhao">☎</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Jason520395-20240831170500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 11:43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Jason520395-20240831170500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Jason520395-20240831170500"></span></dd></dl> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="東南客運" data-mw-thread-id="h-東南客運-批量提刪-20240821155400"><span id=".E6.9D.B1.E5.8D.97.E5.AE.A2.E9.81.8B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-東南客運-批量提刪-20240821155400"></span><a href="/wiki/%E6%9D%B1%E5%8D%97%E5%AE%A2%E9%81%8B" title="東南客運">東南客運</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-東南客運-批量提刪-20240821155400"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=16" title="编辑章节：東南客運"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jason520395-20240831170600-東南客運"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，以上页面已<b>保留</b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <ul><li><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert">(○)</span>保留</span>：客運公司頁面應可留下並表示「小作品」，路線等過於詳細的內容移至維基學院。<span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">--此條<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%AD%BE%E5%90%8D" title="Wikipedia:签名">未正確簽名</a>的留言由<a href="/wiki/User:Jason520395" title="User:Jason520395">Jason520395</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jason520395" title="User talk:Jason520395">討論</a>｜<a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/Jason520395" title="Special:用户贡献/Jason520395">貢獻</a>）於<a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Jason520395-20240831170600-東南客運" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 17:06 (UTC)</a>加入。<span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jason520395-20240831170600-東南客運"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jason520395-20240831170600-東南客運"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Jason520395-20240831170600"></span>保留。--<a href="/wiki/User:Shizhao" title="User:Shizhao">百無一用是書生</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shizhao" title="User talk:Shizhao">☎</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Jason520395-20240831170600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 11:43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Jason520395-20240831170600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shizhao-20240921114300-Jason520395-20240831170600"></span></dd></dl> </div></div> <hr/> <dl><dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-鐵路1-20240821155400-東南客運"></span>(×)</span><b>删除</b>理據：純粹資料庫或通篇<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FAN">WP:FAN</a>，<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a></dd></dl> <p>提报以上頁面的維基人及時間：<br id="no-new-title"/><span style="background:#fff;padding:0.2em ;border:1px solid #000;border-radius:0.5em;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User:鐵路1">🚊　<span style="color:#000">鐵路Railway</span></a></b> </span><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User talk:鐵路1">論</a>．<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1/%E7%B0%BD%E5%90%8D%E6%9D%BF" title="User:鐵路1/簽名板">簽</a></sup> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-鐵路1-20240821155400-東南客運" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月21日 (三) 15:54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-鐵路1-20240821155400-東南客運"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-鐵路1-20240821155400-東南客運"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-日期20220626-20240822032400-鐵路1-20240821155400"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>：瑣碎的內容刪掉了。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User:日期20220626">日期20220626</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User talk:日期20220626">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-日期20220626-20240822032400-鐵路1-20240821155400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 03:24 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-日期20220626-20240822032400-鐵路1-20240821155400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-日期20220626-20240822032400-鐵路1-20240821155400"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sinsyuan-20240822152700-日期20220626-20240822032400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User:鐵路1">鐵路1</a>：</span>瑣碎內容已被<a href="/wiki/User:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User:日期20220626">U:日期20220626</a>移除了，我認為這項存廢理由已經消失了，那你呢？--<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#00ff55,#00cbff,#ff0090,#ffc300);border-radius:999px;padding:0 15px"><a href="/wiki/User:Sinsyuan" title="User:Sinsyuan"><span style="color:white">Sinsyuan</span></a></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sinsyuan" title="User talk:Sinsyuan">✍️</a><a href="/wiki/%E6%9E%97%E4%BD%B3%E8%BE%B0" title="林佳辰">🌏🚀</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Sinsyuan-20240822152700-日期20220626-20240822032400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 15:27 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sinsyuan-20240822152700-日期20220626-20240822032400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sinsyuan-20240822152700-日期20220626-20240822032400"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-鐵路1-20240822154500-Sinsyuan-20240822152700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sinsyuan" title="User:Sinsyuan">Sinsyuan</a>：</span>在猶豫關注度問題，除基隆客運有多個新聞報導，其他的客運公司都沒有來源，基隆客運的報導看標題似乎是針對營運路線報導，沒有針對客運公司介紹，關注度也是問題。要先暫時保留走關注度或是直接處理??剛剛稍微查了一下，臺灣的客運很少有針對公司的介紹，大多只有路線開/停航和車禍新聞~.~--<span style="background:#fff;padding:0.2em ;border:1px solid #000;border-radius:0.5em;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User:鐵路1">🚊　<span style="color:#000">鐵路Railway</span></a></b> </span><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User talk:鐵路1">論</a>．<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1/%E7%B0%BD%E5%90%8D%E6%9D%BF" title="User:鐵路1/簽名板">簽</a></sup> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-鐵路1-20240822154500-Sinsyuan-20240822152700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 15:45 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-鐵路1-20240822154500-Sinsyuan-20240822152700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-鐵路1-20240822154500-Sinsyuan-20240822152700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-日期20220626-20240822154900-鐵路1-20240822154500"></span>如果覺得關注度有問題的話就不用走流程了吧，直接處理好了。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User:日期20220626">日期20220626</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User talk:日期20220626">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-日期20220626-20240822154900-鐵路1-20240822154500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 15:49 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-日期20220626-20240822154900-鐵路1-20240822154500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-日期20220626-20240822154900-鐵路1-20240822154500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-日期20220626-20240822155000-鐵路1-20240822154500"></span>瑣碎內容，我刪了，日後可能別人又加回來了。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User:日期20220626">日期20220626</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User talk:日期20220626">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-日期20220626-20240822155000-鐵路1-20240822154500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月22日 (四) 15:50 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-日期20220626-20240822155000-鐵路1-20240822154500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-日期20220626-20240822155000-鐵路1-20240822154500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jason520395-20240831171100-鐵路1-20240821155400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User:鐵路1">鐵路1</a>：</span>這樣提刪很奇怪欸，為啥不是全部客運公司都要刪。如果只刪這五間公司，那其他客運公司有什麼理由留著？另外提醒，若為關注度提刪需掛notability模板30天才能以此理由提刪。本人論點為先<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert">(○)</span>保留</span>或<span title="" class="mw-redirect"><span class="plainlinks"><span class="skin-invert" style="font-weight: bold; color: #22a000; background-color: #ddee11;">(○)</span><b>暫時保留</b></span></span>，可以留下客運公司歷史、經營範圍等資訊，而詳細路線起迄站、調度場站等資訊移動至維基學院。<span style="background:red;padding:0.1em 4px;border-radius:0.4em"><b> <a href="/wiki/User:Jason520395" title="User:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">Jason520395</span></a><span style="color:white"> | </span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jason520395" title="User talk:Jason520395"><span style="color:white">✉</span></a> </b></span> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Jason520395-20240831171100-鐵路1-20240821155400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月31日 (六) 17:11 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jason520395-20240831171100-鐵路1-20240821155400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jason520395-20240831171100-鐵路1-20240821155400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-鐵路1-20240903011700-Jason520395-20240831171100"></span>在下並沒有一一去看所有客運公司條目，只有簡單巡查幾篇，這幾篇是較嚴重的所以提出來。--<span style="background:#fff;padding:0.2em ;border:1px solid #000;border-radius:0.5em;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User:鐵路1">🚊　<span style="color:#000">鐵路Railway</span></a></b> </span><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1" title="User talk:鐵路1">論</a>．<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%90%B5%E8%B7%AF1/%E7%B0%BD%E5%90%8D%E6%9D%BF" title="User:鐵路1/簽名板">簽</a></sup> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-鐵路1-20240903011700-Jason520395-20240831171100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月3日 (二) 01:17 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-鐵路1-20240903011700-Jason520395-20240831171100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-鐵路1-20240903011700-Jason520395-20240831171100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240906001300-東南客運"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/08/29#批量提刪" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/08/29">本討論</a>已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240906001300-東南客運" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 00:13 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240906001300-東南客運"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240906001300-東南客運"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240914031300-東南客運"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240914031300-東南客運" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 03:13 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240914031300-東南客運"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240914031300-東南客運"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: green; background-color: lightgreen;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patrickov-20240915135800-Manchiu-20240914031300"></span>(○)</span>保留</span>：原則上同意<span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Jason520395" title="User:Jason520395">Jason520395</a></span>的具體解決辦法。--<a href="/wiki/User:Patrickov" title="User:Patrickov">派翠可夫</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patrickov" title="User talk:Patrickov">留言按此</a>)</small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Patrickov-20240915135800-Manchiu-20240914031300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月15日 (日) 13:58 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patrickov-20240915135800-Manchiu-20240914031300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patrickov-20240915135800-Manchiu-20240914031300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="老门东" data-mw-thread-id="h-老门东-20240821014300"><span id=".E8.80.81.E9.97.A8.E4.B8.9C"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-老门东-20240821014300"></span><a href="/wiki/%E8%80%81%E9%97%A8%E4%B8%9C" class="mw-redirect" title="老门东">老门东</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-老门东-20240821014300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=17" title="编辑章节：老门东"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MNXANL-20240821014300-老门东"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，以上页面已<b>合併</b>到<a href="/wiki/%E9%97%A8%E4%B8%9C" title="门东">门东</a>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span style="font-weight: bold; color: blue; background: lightblue;" class="skin-invert">(±)</span><b>合併</b>到<a href="/wiki/%E9%97%A8%E4%B8%9C" title="门东">门东</a>。见<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/08/20#门东" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/08/20">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/08/20#门东</a> </p> <dl><dd>提交的維基人及時間：<a href="/wiki/User:MNXANL" title="User:MNXANL"><span style="color:#007078;"><b>MNXANL</b></span></a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/MNXANL" title="Special:用户贡献/MNXANL">贡献</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MNXANL" title="User talk:MNXANL">讨论</a></small> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-MNXANL-20240821014300-老门东" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月21日 (三) 01:43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MNXANL-20240821014300-老门东"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MNXANL-20240821014300-老门东"></span></dd></dl> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240829005900-老门东"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240829005900-老门东" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月29日 (四) 00:59 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240829005900-老门东"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240829005900-老门东"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240906001000-老门东"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，本討論已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240906001000-老门东" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月6日 (五) 00:10 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240906001000-老门东"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240906001000-老门东"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600; font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shizhao-20240914030600-老门东"></span>為了能更深入地討論并获得明确的共識，<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/06#老门东" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/06">本討論</a>已<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a>。</span><br/> <small>請將新留言置於本提示下方，感謝。<a href="/wiki/User:Shizhao" title="User:Shizhao">百無一用是書生</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shizhao" title="User talk:Shizhao">☎</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shizhao-20240914030600-老门东" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 03:06 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shizhao-20240914030600-老门东"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shizhao-20240914030600-老门东"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="follow-up" style="border-top: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: var(--color-success, #14866d); font-size: 91%; font-weight: bold;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shizhao-20240921114400-老门东"></span>本讨论已有明确的共识，相关页面正在等待处理：</span> <dl><dd>合併到<a href="/wiki/%E9%97%A8%E4%B8%9C" title="门东">门东</a><br/></dd></dl> <small><b>当处理完相关页面后，请及时（或通知管理员）关闭本讨论。</b>（若您对当前已形成的共识有不同意见，請將新留言置於本提示的下方，谢谢。）<a href="/wiki/User:Shizhao" title="User:Shizhao">百無一用是書生</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shizhao" title="User talk:Shizhao">☎</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Shizhao-20240921114400-老门东" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月21日 (六) 11:44 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shizhao-20240921114400-老门东"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shizhao-20240921114400-老门东"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sanmosa-20240922083300-Shizhao-20240921114400"></span>併入<a href="/wiki/%E9%97%A8%E4%B8%9C" title="门东">门东</a>。<span class="NAC"><small>（<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%9D%9E%E7%AE%A1%E7%90%86%E5%93%A1%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96" title="Wikipedia:非管理員關閉討論">非管理員關閉</a>）</small></span><a href="/wiki/User:Sanmosa" title="User:Sanmosa">San</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sanmosa" title="User talk:Sanmosa">mo</a><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/Sanmosa" title="Special:用户贡献/Sanmosa">sa</a> <sub><a href="/wiki/%E6%AB%BB%E6%AB%BB%E7%BE%8E%E4%BB%A3%E5%AD%90" title="櫻櫻美代子">Miyamoto Miyoko</a></sub> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Sanmosa-20240922083300-Shizhao-20240921114400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月22日 (日) 08:33 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sanmosa-20240922083300-Shizhao-20240921114400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sanmosa-20240922083300-Shizhao-20240921114400"></span></dd></dl> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="七二水災" data-mw-thread-id="h-七二水災-20240922002800"><span id=".E4.B8.83.E4.BA.8C.E6.B0.B4.E7.81.BD"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-七二水災-20240922002800"></span><a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%83%E4%BA%8C%E6%B0%B4%E7%81%BD" title="七二水災">七二水災</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-七二水災-20240922002800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=18" title="编辑章节：七二水災"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240922002800-七二水災"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a></b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>重新提交</b>到<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/22#七二水災" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22#七二水災</a>。--<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240922002800-七二水災" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月22日 (日) 00:28 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240922002800-七二水災"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240922002800-七二水災"></span> </p> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色-20240914123500"><span id="Category:.E5.90.84.E5.AA.92.E4.BD.93.E5.92.8C.E5.9B.BD.E5.AE.B6.E6.BC.AB.E7.94.BB.E8.A7.92.E8.89.B2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色-20240914123500"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:%E5%90%84%E5%AA%92%E4%BD%93%E5%92%8C%E5%9B%BD%E5%AE%B6%E6%BC%AB%E7%94%BB%E8%A7%92%E8%89%B2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色（页面不存在）">Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色-20240914123500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=19" title="编辑章节：Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yumeto-20240914123500-Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%97%9C%E9%96%89%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E6%8C%87%E5%BC%95" title="Wikipedia:關閉存廢討論指引">结束</a>，以上页面已<b>刪除</b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert">(×)</span><b>删除</b>理據：不明所以，使用<a href="/wiki/Category:%E5%90%84%E5%9B%BD%E6%BC%AB%E7%94%BB%E8%A7%92%E8%89%B2" title="Category:各国漫画角色">分類:各国漫画角色</a>即可。 </p> <dl><dd>提交的維基人及時間：<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yumeto" title="User talk:Yumeto"><span style="color:purple;font-weight:bold">紺野</span></a><a href="/wiki/User:Yumeto" title="User:Yumeto"><span style="color:#000;font-weight:bold">夢人</span></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Yumeto-20240914123500-Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 12:35 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yumeto-20240914123500-Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yumeto-20240914123500-Category:各媒体和国家漫画角色"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-红渡厨-20240914124200-Yumeto-20240914123500"></span>(×)</span><b>删除</b>，我也觉得不明所以。--——— <a href="/wiki/User:%E7%BA%A2%E6%B8%A1%E5%8E%A8" title="User:红渡厨">红渡厨</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E7%BA%A2%E6%B8%A1%E5%8E%A8" title="User talk:红渡厨">留言</a>・<a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/%E7%BA%A2%E6%B8%A1%E5%8E%A8" title="Special:用户贡献/红渡厨">贡献</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-红渡厨-20240914124200-Yumeto-20240914123500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 12:42 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-红渡厨-20240914124200-Yumeto-20240914123500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-红渡厨-20240914124200-Yumeto-20240914123500"></span></dd> <dd><span style="font-weight: bold; color: red; background: pink;" class="skin-invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Allervous-20240916012100-Yumeto-20240914123500"></span>(×)</span><b>删除</b>，定义模糊的分类。--<a href="/wiki/User:Allervous/%E8%A8%AA%E5%AE%A2%E7%B0%BD%E5%90%8D%E5%8D%80" title="User:Allervous/訪客簽名區"><span style="color:#39C5BB;">Allervous</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Allervous" title="User talk:Allervous"><span style="color:#FF0099;">シカ部・ざ・ろっく!</span></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Allervous-20240916012100-Yumeto-20240914123500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月16日 (一) 01:21 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Allervous-20240916012100-Yumeto-20240914123500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=20" title="编辑章节：FIFTY FIFTY第一代成員經紀權糾紛事件"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240922002800-FIFTY_FIFTY第一代成員經紀權糾紛事件"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="talkend-title collapsible-title"><div class="talkend-title-text">本討論已經<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">重新提交</a></b>。请<b>不要</b>对这个存档做任何编辑。</div> <div class="talkend-title-toggleplace"><span class="mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder"></span></div> </div> <div class="talkend-clear" style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="talkend-content mw-collapsible-content"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>重新提交</b>到<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/22#FIFTY_FIFTY第一代成員經紀權糾紛事件" title="Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22">Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2024/09/22#FIFTY FIFTY第一代成員經紀權糾紛事件</a>。--<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-Manchiu-20240922002800-FIFTY_FIFTY第一代成員經紀權糾紛事件" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月22日 (日) 00:28 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchiu-20240922002800-FIFTY_FIFTY第一代成員經紀權糾紛事件"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchiu-20240922002800-FIFTY_FIFTY第一代成員經紀權糾紛事件"></span> </p> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:王思黔/李沛持" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:王思黔/李沛持-20240914140800"><span id="User:.E7.8E.8B.E6.80.9D.E9.BB.94.2F.E6.9D.8E.E6.B2.9B.E6.8C.81"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:王思黔/李沛持-20240914140800"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%E7%8E%8B%E6%80%9D%E9%BB%94/%E6%9D%8E%E6%B2%9B%E6%8C%81&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:王思黔/李沛持（页面不存在）">User:王思黔/李沛持</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:王思黔/李沛持-20240914140800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14&action=edit&section=21" title="编辑章节：User:王思黔/李沛持"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WiiUf-20240914140800-User:王思黔/李沛持"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83643097"><div class="talkend mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk 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href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A0%81%E9%9D%A2%E5%AD%98%E5%BB%A2%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96/%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%84/2024/09/14#c-WiiUf-20240914140800-User:王思黔/李沛持" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月14日 (六) 14:08 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WiiUf-20240914140800-User:王思黔/李沛持"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WiiUf-20240914140800-User:王思黔/李沛持"></span></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchiu-20240921003500-WiiUf-20240914140800"></span>刪除。--<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">千村狐兔</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">留言</a>） <a 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