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class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/_____k_024' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="0" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">24歳</strong> <span class="status_name">@_____k_024</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>今日福岡吉本の漫才見に行ったら芸人にステージ上から指さされ「かわいい!」って言われ別の芸人に「いや化粧だけやろ!」って大声で言われたんですけど普通にめちゃくちゃ不快で顔凍りついたしあの芸人絶対ウチよりフォロワーおらんだろ潰すぞボケ</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/_____k_024/status/1096396575847309312" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-15 22:11:28</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='2' data-id='1096679996918099968'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/_____k_024' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="0" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">24歳</strong> <span class="status_name">@_____k_024</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>化粧だけの顔でお笑いライブ見に行ってすみませんでした、化粧してたらステージ上から容姿を馬鹿にされるなんて知ってたら行ってませんでしたこんな顔に産まれてきてすみませんでした〜wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/_____k_024/status/1096679996918099968" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-16 16:57:41</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='3' data-id='1096714036161306624'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/_____k_024' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="0" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">24歳</strong> <span class="status_name">@_____k_024</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>失礼なことを言われた事実を書いただけで影響力考えろとか言われるの笑うフォロワー多いと愚痴る権利も無いんかい</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/_____k_024/status/1096714036161306624" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-16 19:12:56</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='4' data-id='1097059519073406976'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/DaiCE33138841' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ゆっけ</strong> <span class="status_name">@DaiCE33138841</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>ヨシオちゃんの件、拡散力のある方が発信したことで福岡吉本に蔓延る誰かを犠牲にして笑いを取るゲスいやり方が露呈したのは良いと思うし、他の芸人さんも全員そういう笑いの取り方をしてると思われては困るのでヨシオちゃんには本当に猛省して頂きたい訳なんだけど、住所特定とかTwitter通報とかは→</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/DaiCE33138841/status/1097059519073406976" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-17 18:05:46</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='5' data-id='1097061208602030080'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/DaiCE33138841' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ゆっけ</strong> <span class="status_name">@DaiCE33138841</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>本気でやめよう。いじられた本人様や毎回劇場に足を運んでていじられた経験がある方々が激怒するのは凄くわかるけど、関係ない人が面白半分で叩くのは違う。本気で反省して自分達のネタやトークの技術を磨いて活躍できる可能性があるかもしれないのに1人の芸人さんの人生を台無しにしないで頂きたい。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/DaiCE33138841/status/1097061208602030080" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-17 18:12:29</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='6' data-id='1097067653900886016'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/DaiCE33138841' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ゆっけ</strong> <span class="status_name">@DaiCE33138841</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>女性の心を傷つけた罪は重いけど、救いようのない性悪じゃないなら自分でもっと面白くなる努力して這いつくばって上に行ってみろ。ヨシオちゃんただ1人だけの問題じゃなくてトリオの存続にも関わってくるんだから残された2人が可哀想だよ。まぁ一緒になって笑ってたその人達にも大きな問題はあるけど。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/DaiCE33138841/status/1097067653900886016" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-17 18:38:05</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="7"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">ここからはじまるフォロワーマウント理論 <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" onclick="openDialog('/dialog/index/1320518');"><svg class="svg-icon fa-list-alt"><use xlink:href="#list-alt" /></svg></button> </h2> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='8' data-id='1096767115221057537'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/hanakazenaore' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="3" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">のび</strong> <span class="status_name">@hanakazenaore</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>フォロワー1000人しかいない芸人が、観客の一般人の女の子をナメくさった態度でディスったら、実はその女の子にはフォロワーが2万人いて、一瞬で悪事を暴露されて1万RTされて燃やされたの、マジで面白すぎるな。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/hanakazenaore/status/1096767115221057537" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-16 22:43:51</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="9"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">フォロワー多いと偉いみたいな価値観に関するやりとりへ <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" onclick="openDialog('/dialog/index/1320518');"><svg class="svg-icon fa-list-alt"><use xlink:href="#list-alt" /></svg></button> </h2> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='10' data-id='1097124110906286080'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/fair_lovewar' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="4" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">あく</strong> <span class="status_name">@fair_lovewar</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/hanakazenaore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@hanakazenaore</a> <a href="https://x.com/xsrknrx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@xsrknrx</a> フォロワー多い人がエラいみたいな価値観きらい</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/fair_lovewar/status/1097124110906286080" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-17 22:22:26</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='11' data-id='1097181039720509441'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/rano___xxx' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="5" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ふらの</strong> <span class="status_name">@rano___xxx</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/fair_lovewar" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@fair_lovewar</a> そんなこと書いてねーよ頭悪すぎワロタ</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/rano___xxx/status/1097181039720509441" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 02:08:39</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='12' data-id='1097209346750963712'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/nfdrtcknl7sl3ut' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="6" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">irf:.t</strong> <span class="status_name">@nfdrtcknl7sl3ut</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/momomomo_x" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@momomomo_x</a> <a href="https://x.com/fair_lovewar" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@fair_lovewar</a> そういうことを書いてるわけじゃないけど、フォロワーの多さはパワーだ、という1つの事実を示す話ではあるよな。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/nfdrtcknl7sl3ut/status/1097209346750963712" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 04:01:08</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='13' data-id='1097266091858903040'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/sutebatijinsei' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="7" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ウィルソンフィリップス上院議員</strong> <span class="status_name">@sutebatijinsei</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/nfdrtcknl7sl3ut" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@nfdrtcknl7sl3ut</a> そもそも炎上させた当人(女性)がフォロワー数の違いを批判の初手で書いてるからね。フォロワー数の大小を理由に叩いてる側面はあるよな</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/sutebatijinsei/status/1097266091858903040" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 07:46:37</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='14' data-id='1097267748843839488'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/nfdrtcknl7sl3ut' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="6" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">irf:.t</strong> <span class="status_name">@nfdrtcknl7sl3ut</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/sutebatijinsei" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@sutebatijinsei</a> 理由はあくまでも不愉快なイジリだと思うけど、自分のフォロワーの多さを意識した上で叩きに行ってるのは、のび太のくせに生意気だぞみはありますね。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/nfdrtcknl7sl3ut/status/1097267748843839488" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 07:53:12</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='15' data-id='1097270545157054465'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/sutebatijinsei' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="7" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ウィルソンフィリップス上院議員</strong> <span class="status_name">@sutebatijinsei</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/nfdrtcknl7sl3ut" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@nfdrtcknl7sl3ut</a> 相手がフォロワー数100万の芸人なら喧嘩ふっかけたのか?って話ですしね。それならそれで、あの著名芸人に名指しでいじられた!と自慢してそうだし。芸人の発言が肯定されるわけではないけどもさ</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/sutebatijinsei/status/1097270545157054465" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 08:04:18</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='16' data-id='1097271151632371712'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/nfdrtcknl7sl3ut' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="6" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">irf:.t</strong> <span class="status_name">@nfdrtcknl7sl3ut</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/sutebatijinsei" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@sutebatijinsei</a> いやー。自慢はしなかったんじゃ。仮に相手の方がデカい勢力でも、こっちの味方も多いほうが強気に出やすいのはたしかですな。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/nfdrtcknl7sl3ut/status/1097271151632371712" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 08:06:43</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='17' data-id='1097271860486594560'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/sutebatijinsei' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="7" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">ウィルソンフィリップス上院議員</strong> <span class="status_name">@sutebatijinsei</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/nfdrtcknl7sl3ut" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@nfdrtcknl7sl3ut</a> 自慢するかしないかは個人の性格だから知らんけど(わざわざ自分から名指しで批判するんだから自己顕示欲強いんだろうなとワイは感じた)、「のび太のくせに生意気だ」ってのは本当に言い得て妙だと思いました</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/sutebatijinsei/status/1097271860486594560" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 08:09:32</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='18' data-id='1097308579109826560'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/kaname34' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="8" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">満腹 花子 自宅療養終了</strong> <span class="status_name">@kaname34</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/hanakazenaore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@hanakazenaore</a> フォロワー多いから凄いか思ってる人キライ。 上辺だけの付き合いでしょ…</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/kaname34/status/1097308579109826560" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 10:35:26</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='19' data-id='1097335659386159104'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/sngf_cn9a' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="9" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">タウンゼンド・ホイーレン</strong> <span class="status_name">@sngf_cn9a</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/kaname34" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@kaname34</a> いや、ふつうに凄い事だと思いますよ。 上辺の付き合いだとしても、それだけ広範囲に拡げることができるのは一つの才能だと思います。 まぁ、手の届かない葡萄をどうせ酸っぱいさと言いたくなる気持ちもわからないでもないですが。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/sngf_cn9a/status/1097335659386159104" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 12:23:03</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='20' data-id='1097351784081678338'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/kaname34' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="8" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">満腹 花子 自宅療養終了</strong> <span class="status_name">@kaname34</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/sngf_cn9a" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@sngf_cn9a</a> 才能であってもそれを誇示する事に疑問を感じているだけです。 才能だけに頼っていればいずれは足元掬われる。 そう思っているだけですよ。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/kaname34/status/1097351784081678338" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-02-18 13:27:07</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="21"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">当該芸人が謝罪へ <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" onclick="openDialog('/dialog/index/1320518');"><svg class="svg-icon fa-list-alt"><use xlink:href="#list-alt" /></svg></button> </h2> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='22' data-id='1096667264978321408'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/scraps_yoshio' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="10" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" 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