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<div id="vector-appearance" class="vector-appearance vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-appearance-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-pinned" data-feature-name="appearance-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-appearance" data-pinned-container-id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-appearance-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">外观</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.pin">移至侧栏</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.unpin">隐藏</button> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">维基百科,自由的百科全书</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-talkpageheader"> <div class="mw-parser-output"> </div> </div><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="zh" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-thread-id="h--2008-12-24T10:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h--2008-12-24T10:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h--2008-12-24T10:01:00.000Z"></span></span><div style="width: 100%; margin: 0.2em 0; padding: 0.3em 0; border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-bottom: 1px solid #ddd; font-size: 120%;"><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wcam-2008-12-24T10:01:00.000Z"></span>您好,靖天子!<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%AC%A2%E8%BF%8E%EF%BC%8C%E6%96%B0%E6%9D%A5%E8%80%85" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:欢迎,新来者">欢迎</a>加入维基百科!</b></div> <p>感謝您對維基百科的興趣與貢獻<big>大</big>,希望您會喜歡這裡。除了<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%AC%A2%E8%BF%8E%EF%BC%8C%E6%96%B0%E6%9D%A5%E8%80%85" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:欢迎,新来者">歡迎辭</a></b>外,也請您了解以下重要文章: </p> <table style="background: transparent; border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-bottom: 1px solid #ddd; border-collpase: collapse;"> <tbody><tr style="vertical-align: top;"> <td style="background: #f4f4f4; padding: .8em .2em;"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png" class="mw-file-description" title="政策"><img alt="政策" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png/35px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="35" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png/53px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png/70px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption>政策</figcaption></figure> <div style="margin-left: 45px;"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%94%E5%A4%A7%E6%94%AF%E6%9F%B1" title="Wikipedia:五大支柱">五大支柱</a></b><br/><small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%B8%8D%E9%80%82%E5%90%88%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%E7%9A%84%E6%96%87%E7%AB%A0" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:不适合维基百科的文章">百科</a>、<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%B8%AD%E6%80%A7%E7%9A%84%E8%A7%82%E7%82%B9" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:中性的观点">中立</a>、<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%AE%80%E6%98%8E%E7%89%88%E6%9D%83%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:简明版权信息">开放</a>、<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%96%87%E6%98%8E" title="Wikipedia:文明">互重</a>、<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%BF%BD%E7%95%A5%E6%89%80%E6%9C%89%E8%A7%84%E5%88%99" title="Wikipedia:忽略所有规则">勇於改善</a></small></div> </td> <td style="background: #faf1df; padding: .8em .2em;"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_emacs.png" class="mw-file-description" title="GNU"><img alt="GNU" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Nuvola_apps_emacs.png/45px-Nuvola_apps_emacs.png" decoding="async" width="45" height="45" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Nuvola_apps_emacs.png/68px-Nuvola_apps_emacs.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Nuvola_apps_emacs.png/90px-Nuvola_apps_emacs.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption>GNU</figcaption></figure> <div style="margin-left: 55px;"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%89%88%E6%9D%83%E5%B8%B8%E8%A7%81%E9%97%AE%E9%A2%98%E8%A7%A3%E7%AD%94" title="Wikipedia:版权常见问题解答">版權問題解答</a></b><br/><small>貢獻內容必须是<u>您所著或獲得授權</u>、<br/>同意在<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%89%88%E6%9D%83%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:版权信息">GFDL</a>條款下發布</small></div> </td> <td style="background: #f4f4f4; padding: .8em .2em;"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Postscript-viewer.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="手冊"><img alt="手冊" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Postscript-viewer.svg/35px-Postscript-viewer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="35" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Postscript-viewer.svg/53px-Postscript-viewer.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Postscript-viewer.svg/70px-Postscript-viewer.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="60" data-file-height="60"/></a><figcaption>手冊</figcaption></figure> <div style="margin-left: 45px;"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BD%BF%E7%94%A8%E6%8C%87%E5%8D%97" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:使用指南">使用指南</a></b><br/><small><a href="/wiki/Help:%E5%A6%82%E4%BD%95%E8%AE%BF%E9%97%AE%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91" title="Help:如何访问维基百科">安全访问</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%B2%99%E7%9B%92" title="Wikipedia:沙盒">測試編輯</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%A6%82%E4%BD%95%E7%BC%96%E8%BE%91%E9%A1%B5%E9%9D%A2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:如何编辑页面">如何编辑</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/Help:%E7%9B%AE%E5%BD%95" title="Help:目录">使用手册</a> / <a href="/wiki/Help:%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%E7%9A%84%E7%B9%81%E7%AE%80%E5%A4%84%E7%90%86" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:中文维基百科的繁简处理">繁简处理</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%A6%82%E4%BD%95%E5%86%99%E5%87%BA%E9%9D%9E%E5%B8%B8%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%9D%A1%E7%9B%AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:如何写出非常好的条目">寫個好條目</a></small></div> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" style="border-top: 1px solid #ddd; padding-top: .3em;"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Icon_apps_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="問號"><img alt="問號" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Icon_apps_query.svg/18px-Icon_apps_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Icon_apps_query.svg/27px-Icon_apps_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Icon_apps_query.svg/36px-Icon_apps_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a><figcaption>問號</figcaption></figure><b>有问题?</b>請到<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%92%E5%8A%A9%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88" title="Wikipedia:互助客栈">互助客栈</a></b>询问,或在我的对话页提出。別忘記:討論後要<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA%E9%A1%B5%E4%B8%8A%E7%AD%BE%E5%90%8D" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:在讨论页上签名"><b>簽名</b></a>,方式之一是留下4個波浪紋「~~~~」。<div lang="en" style="font-style: italic; font-size: 90%;">If you have any questions about the Chinese Wikipedia, please leave a message <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Guestbook_for_non-Chinese-speakers" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Guestbook for non-Chinese-speakers"><i>here</i></a>. Thank you for visiting!</div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <ul><li>新手应该注意的七种<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%81%BF%E5%85%8D%E5%B8%B8%E8%A7%81%E9%94%99%E8%AF%AF" title="Wikipedia:避免常见错误">常见错误</a></b>。</li> <li>在中文維基裡,<a href="/wiki/%E9%96%93%E9%9A%94%E8%99%9F" class="mw-redirect" title="間隔號">間隔號</a>的輸入比較特別,詳參<a href="/wiki/Help:%E5%A6%82%E4%BD%95%E8%BE%93%E5%85%A5%E9%97%B4%E9%9A%94%E5%8F%B7" title="Help:如何输入间隔号">Help:如何輸入間隔號</a>。</li> <li>不知道有何可写?<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%9D%A1%E7%9B%AE%E8%AF%B7%E6%B1%82" title="Wikipedia:条目请求">条目请求</a>、<a href="/wiki/Special:%E9%9C%80%E8%A6%81%E7%9A%84%E9%A1%B5%E9%9D%A2" title="Special:需要的页面">待撰页面</a>和<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%9C%80%E5%A4%9A%E8%AA%9E%E8%A8%80%E7%89%88%E6%9C%AC%E7%9A%84%E5%BE%85%E6%92%B0%E6%A2%9D%E7%9B%AE" title="Wikipedia:最多語言版本的待撰條目">最多语言版本的待撰条目</a>中列出了许多维基百科目前还没有的条目,欢迎您来撰写!</li> <li>希望您能享受编写人類共有之自由百科的快乐,成为一名快樂的<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%E4%BA%BA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:维基百科人">维基百科人</a>。</li></ul> <p><span style="display:none"></span>我是欢迎您的维基百科人:<a href="/wiki/User:Wcam" title="User:Wcam">Wcam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wcam" title="User talk:Wcam">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Wcam-2008-12-24T10:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年12月24日 (三) 10:01 (UTC)</a><span style="display:none"></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wcam-2008-12-24T10:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-24T10:01:00.000Z","author":"Wcam","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wcam-2008-12-24T10:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span 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</td></tr></tbody></table> <table class="plainlinks ombox ombox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/40px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/80px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">敝人為<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">單一用途帳號</a>,只進行條目寫作,不參與任何站務與社群討論,尚祈見諒。</td></tr></tbody></table> <table class="plainlinks ombox ombox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/40px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/80px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">本頁謝絕所有投票、討論與活動邀請。</td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83732962"> <table id="archivebox" role="presentation" class="tmbox tmbox-notice mbox-small" style="text-align: center;"> <tbody><tr><th><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/40px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/60px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/80px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></span></span><br/><a href="/wiki/Help:%E5%A6%82%E4%BD%95%E5%B0%87%E8%A8%8E%E8%AB%96%E9%A0%81%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%94" title="Help:如何將討論頁存檔">存檔</a> </th></tr> <tr><td style="text-align:left;"> <p> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%941" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔1">存檔1 (2009-2011年3月)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%942" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔2">存檔2 (2011年4月-2011年8月)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%943" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔3">存檔3 (2011年8月-2013年4月)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%944" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔4">存檔4 (2013年4月-2014年5月)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%945" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔5">存檔5 (2014年7月-2017年)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%946" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔6">存檔6 (2018年)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%947" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔7">存檔7 (2019年)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%948" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔8">存檔8 (2020年)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%949" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔9">存檔9 (2021年)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%9410" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔10">存檔10 (2022年)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%9411" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔11">存檔11 (2023年)</a></li></ul> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta 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id="h-关于鲁特部巴蜜环菌-20240106071600"></span>关于鲁特部巴蜜环菌<span data-mw-comment-end="h-关于鲁特部巴蜜环菌-20240106071600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="编辑章节:关于鲁特部巴蜜环菌"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Interaccoonale-20240106071600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u5173\u4e8e\u9c81\u7279\u90e8\u5df4\u871c\u73af\u83cc-20240106071600","replies":["c-Interaccoonale-20240106071600-\u5173\u4e8e\u9c81\u7279\u90e8\u5df4\u871c\u73af\u83cc","c-Htmlzycq-20240106122400-\u5173\u4e8e\u9c81\u7279\u90e8\u5df4\u871c\u73af\u83cc"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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title="User:靖天子/魯特部巴蜜環菌">User:靖天子/魯特部巴蜜環菌</a>被列在<a href="/wiki/Category:%E8%9C%9C%E7%8E%AF%E8%8F%8C%E5%B1%9E" title="Category:蜜环菌属">Category:蜜環菌屬</a>的分类页下,能否请您在该页面的分类中加入冒号以避免其出现在条目分类中?麻烦了。祝您新年快乐。--——🦝<a href="/wiki/User:Interaccoonale" title="User:Interaccoonale"><b><span style="color:grey">英特浣熊耐尔</span></b></a><sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Interaccoonale" title="User talk:Interaccoonale">留言</a>・<a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/Interaccoonale" title="Special:用户贡献/Interaccoonale">贡献</a>)</sub> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Interaccoonale-20240106071600-关于鲁特部巴蜜环菌" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年1月6日 (六) 07:16 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Interaccoonale-20240106071600-关于鲁特部巴蜜环菌"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Alankang-20240209014800-新年快樂!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年2月9日 (五) 01:48 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alankang-20240209014800-新年快樂!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240209014800","author":"Alankang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alankang-20240209014800-\u65b0\u5e74\u5feb\u6a02\uff01","replies":[],"displayName":"A.K."}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alankang-20240209014800-新年快樂!"></span><div style="font-size:x-small; text-align:right; padding-top:5px;"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r83933911">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240310103400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-2024-20240310103400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240310103400-2024&quot;,&quot;c-Htmlzycq-20240312084300-2024&quot;,&quot;c-Htmlzycq-20240313052600-2024&quot;,&quot;c-Htmlzycq-20240319032000-2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;2024&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240310103400-2024"></span>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90/%E5%AD%98%E6%AA%9411#迟来的新春祝福" title="User talk:靖天子/存檔11">前年討論</a>) </p> <ul><li><span style="display:none">@<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq" title="User:Htmlzycq">Htmlzycq</a>:</span>今年換在下向閣下至上遲來的新春祝福。去年太忙了,偶爾回來也大都是寫世界各地的時事熱點條目,居然都一年沒寫生物條目了,看到中文終於超了日文這個前幾大語種中唯一沒用過機器人刷條目的、我們在數量上追趕超過十年的語種,感慨良久,感受比超過瓦瑞瓦瑞、越南那種深刻許多,看看前面的語種中也就宿霧跟埃及阿拉伯語是機器人搞出來的虛胖語種,其他都是大語種了。看到這也讓我回去翻十幾年前客棧上大家與其他語種「對抗」的討論,那時的中文維基充滿合作的氛圍,許多人為此付出大量情感與心血。這次超日文好像站上沒什麼討論?就看到客棧消息版幾人祝賀而已,大概當時那幾位現在都不見了....--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240310103400-2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月10日 (日) 10:34 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240310103400-2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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title="User:日期20220626">日期20220626</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User talk:日期20220626">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-日期20220626-20240310104000-靖天子-20240310103400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月10日 (日) 10:40 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-日期20220626-20240310104000-靖天子-20240310103400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240310104000","author":"\u65e5\u671f20220626","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-\u65e5\u671f20220626-20240310104000-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240310103400","replies":["c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240312045900-\u65e5\u671f20220626-20240310104000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-日期20220626-20240310104000-靖天子-20240310103400"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240312045900-日期20220626-20240310104000"></span>這點確實不太好,也是我極力希望中文維基能避免的?--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240312045900-日期20220626-20240310104000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月12日 (二) 04:59 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240312045900-日期20220626-20240310104000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240310110900-靖天子-20240310103400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月10日 (日) 11:09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240310110900-靖天子-20240310103400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240310110900","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240310110900-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240310103400","replies":["c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600-Htmlzycq-20240310110900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240310110900-靖天子-20240310103400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600-Htmlzycq-20240310110900"></span>我有印象的第一个里程碑是30万;不过当时我只算读者,所以真正有参与的是40万。记得后面50万到70万都是开机器人,但当时客栈赶超外文维基的氛围还是很浓厚的。现在中维条目数140万,但我已经完全无感了。</dd> <dd>说到「对抗」,我活跃的ACG领域十年前也是有论争的:一些编者将日维奉为圭臬,认为日本作品条目就应该日维的格式来写;另一些编者则主张英维体例更优,无论是日本作品还是美国作品,都应该走英维的编写方向。我属于「另一些编辑」中的积极分子,当年没少写论述发留言黑日维<a href="/wiki/%F0%9F%98%82" title="😂">😂</a> 所以这次超越日维这个对手,的确让我想到很多。</dd> <dd>至于客栈没人关注,一方面是很多参与者没经历过那个时代。另一方面,是不是这几年<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ENWPSAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENWPSAID">中维个体意识增强</a>,而且大家开始关注品质,所以对这个话题没多大兴趣了?--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:For_Each_element_In_group_Next&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:For Each element In group Next(页面不存在)">For Each element In group Next</a>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:For_Each_element_In_group_Next&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:For Each element In group Next(页面不存在)">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600-Htmlzycq-20240310110900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月10日 (日) 11:46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600-Htmlzycq-20240310110900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240310114600","author":"For Each element In group Next","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600-Htmlzycq-20240310110900","replies":["c-\u65e5\u671f20220626-20240310115100-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600-Htmlzycq-20240310110900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-日期20220626-20240310115100-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600"></span>10年前開機器人刷條目的時候就有人說要關注品質,還有人在為了數量還是品質在那邊吵架,我記得就是簽名分別叫「維基皇帝」 和「泅水大象」的兩個人在吵。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User:日期20220626">日期20220626</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%9F20220626" title="User talk:日期20220626">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-日期20220626-20240310115100-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月10日 (日) 11:51 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-日期20220626-20240310115100-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240310114600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240312045900-日期20220626-20240310115100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240312045900","author":"\u9756\u5929\u5b50","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240312045900-\u65e5\u671f20220626-20240310115100","replies":[],"displayName":"Wikimycota"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-靖天子-20240312045900-日期20220626-20240310115100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Htmlzycq-20240310121300-靖天子-20240310103400"></span>在下觉得,维基最重要的是让查阅者有所收获,比如在下是玩<a href="/wiki/%E6%96%87%E6%98%8E5" class="mw-redirect" title="文明5">文明5</a>这个游戏的时候,发现<a href="/wiki/%E6%B3%A2%E6%96%AF%E9%95%BF%E7%94%9F%E5%86%9B" class="mw-redirect" title="波斯长生军">波斯长生军</a>挺有意思的,然后在条目中看到了<a href="/wiki/%E6%B3%A2%E6%96%AF%E5%B8%9D%E5%9B%BD%E6%88%90%E7%AB%8B2500%E5%91%A8%E5%B9%B4%E5%BA%86%E5%85%B8" title="波斯帝国成立2500周年庆典">波斯帝国成立2500周年庆典</a>...--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240310121300-靖天子-20240310103400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月10日 (日) 12:13 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240310121300-靖天子-20240310103400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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(2023年至今)">苏丹内战</a>的相關條目,媒體關注度實在相差太遠了。生物條目我有時想不到有什麼好寫的,閣下的學者或書籍條目如果有學理的紅連可以到這給我提供點靈感。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240312045900-Htmlzycq-20240310121300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月12日 (二) 04:59 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240312045900-Htmlzycq-20240310121300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240312045900","author":"\u9756\u5929\u5b50","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240312045900-Htmlzycq-20240310121300","replies":["c-\u5fae\u80bf\u5934\u9f99-20240312115700-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240312045900"],"displayName":"Wikimycota"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-靖天子-20240312045900-Htmlzycq-20240310121300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-微肿头龙-20240312115700-靖天子-20240312045900"></span>以现在三个语言的条目数量增速看来,中文应该会先超过埃及阿拉伯语然后才超过波兰语。(通过我的粗略计算,超过埃及阿拉伯语要3年,波兰语要7年)--<a href="/wiki/User:%E5%BE%AE%E8%82%BF%E5%A4%B4%E9%BE%99" title="User:微肿头龙">微肿头龙</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E5%BE%AE%E8%82%BF%E5%A4%B4%E9%BE%99" title="User talk:微肿头龙">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-微肿头龙-20240312115700-靖天子-20240312045900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月12日 (二) 11:57 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-微肿头龙-20240312115700-靖天子-20240312045900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240312115700","author":"\u5fae\u80bf\u5934\u9f99","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-\u5fae\u80bf\u5934\u9f99-20240312115700-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240312045900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-微肿头龙-20240312115700-靖天子-20240312045900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Htmlzycq-20240312084300-2024"></span>提供靈感不敢讲,讲一讲这些年在维基的体会吧。在下觉得各个维基各有各的特色,是从为<a href="/wiki/%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%91%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E5%AD%A6%E6%9C%AF%E5%90%8D%E8%91%97%E4%B8%9B%E4%B9%A6" title="汉译世界学术名著丛书">汉译世界学术名著丛书</a>添加{{link-XX||}}开始的,这些学术性的书籍,在没有中文條目和英文条目的情况下,还能找到德语条目、法语条目、俄语条目,这现在看起来很正常,但是还有一些能找到类似<span class="ilh-all" data-orig-title="哲学片段" data-lang-code="da" data-lang-name="丹麥語" data-foreign-title="Philosophiske Smuler"><span class="ilh-page"><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E5%93%B2%E5%AD%A6%E7%89%87%E6%AE%B5&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="哲学片段(页面不存在)">哲学片段</a></span><span class="noprint ilh-comment">(<span class="ilh-lang">丹麥語</span><span class="ilh-colon">:</span><span class="ilh-link"><a href="https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophiske_Smuler" class="extiw" title="da:Philosophiske Smuler"><span lang="da" dir="auto">Philosophiske Smuler</span></a></span>)</span></span>丹麦语条目,<span class="ilh-all" data-orig-title="林中路" data-lang-code="it" data-lang-name="義大利語" data-foreign-title="Sentieri interrotti"><span class="ilh-page"><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E6%9E%97%E4%B8%AD%E8%B7%AF&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="林中路(页面不存在)">林中路</a></span><span class="noprint ilh-comment">(<span class="ilh-lang">義大利語</span><span class="ilh-colon">:</span><span class="ilh-link"><a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentieri_interrotti" class="extiw" title="it:Sentieri interrotti"><span lang="it" dir="auto">Sentieri interrotti</span></a></span>)</span></span>意大利语条目,<span class="ilh-all" data-orig-title="地理学中的解释" data-lang-code="ja" data-lang-name="日语" data-foreign-title="地理学における説明"><span class="ilh-page"><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E5%9C%B0%E7%90%86%E5%AD%A6%E4%B8%AD%E7%9A%84%E8%A7%A3%E9%87%8A&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="地理学中的解释(页面不存在)">地理学中的解释</a></span><span class="noprint ilh-comment">(<span class="ilh-lang">日语</span><span class="ilh-colon">:</span><span class="ilh-link"><a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9C%B0%E7%90%86%E5%AD%A6%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E8%AA%AC%E6%98%8E" class="extiw" title="ja:地理学における説明"><span lang="ja" dir="auto">地理学における説明</span></a></span>)</span></span>日语条目等等,这就让十年前的在下非常惊讶了。 </p><p>之后在下开始编辑许多化学消歧义条目,发现世界语维基,加泰罗尼亚语维基,荷兰语维基,都有自己特有的化合物条目,可以说是各个各有特色吧。在希望中文维基能够取长补短时,在下参考了法语维基的格式,即每个消歧义义项之后都要跟上这个化合物的CAS,这样即使是红链,也方便后人查询建立。在这之后就是参考{{DisambigNav}}建立了{{MolFormDisambigNav}}这个模板,可以说是一个转折点,不但<a href="/wiki/User:Leiem/sandbox/sandbox6" title="User:Leiem/sandbox/sandbox6">未建立的同分异构体消歧义</a>所剩无几了,而且总数到达了2300+,超过了英文维基,<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r83791214">html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .text-blocked img{filter:invert(1)hue-rotate(180deg)}.mw-parser-output .inline-text-blocked{color:transparent!important;background-color:#000000;transition:color 0.25s}.mw-parser-output .inline-text-blocked *,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-blocked a{color:transparent!important;background-color:transparent!important;cursor:default!important;text-decoration:none!important;transition:color 0.25s!important}.mw-parser-output .inline-text-blocked::selection,.mw-parser-output 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.inline-text-block-hsd:active,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsd::selection{color:#ffffff!important;transition:0.15s linear}.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsd:hover a,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsd:active a,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsd a::selection{color:#88bbff;transition:0.15s linear}.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsd:hover .new,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsd:active .new,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsd .new::selection{color:#ffbb88;transition:0.15s linear}.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl a,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl .new{color:transparent!important}.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl:hover,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl:active,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl::selection{color:#000000!important;transition:0.15s linear}.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl:hover a,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl:active a,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl a::selection{color:#0033cc!important;transition:0.15s linear}.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl:hover .new,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl:active .new,.mw-parser-output .inline-text-block-hsl .new::selection{color:#cc3300!important;transition:0.15s linear}</style><mark class="skin-invert text-blocked inline-text-block-hd" title="你知道的太多了" style="background-color: #000000bf"><a href="/wiki/User:%E5%BE%AE%E8%82%BF%E5%A4%B4%E9%BE%99/A" title="User:微肿头龙/A">虽然其中大部分还有待完善</a></mark>。这可以看做是中文维基的一个特色内容了,可能某个消歧义条目中,一个中文蓝链都没有,但是却有{{link-eo||}}、{{link-de||}}、{{link-nl||}}等等来自多个语言的化合物。 </p><p>最后再说说中文另一个超过英文的领域吧,就是的<a href="/wiki/Category:%E7%B4%B0%E8%83%9E%E7%B3%BB" title="Category:細胞系">Category:細胞系</a>领域,已有一百多条目,<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83791214"><mark class="skin-invert text-blocked inline-text-block-hd" title="你知道的太多了" style="background-color: #000000bf">大部分是<a href="/wiki/User:Sing20041130" title="User:Sing20041130">User:Sing20041130</a>贡献的<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></mark>。在下为了这一领域能够更加系统化,编辑了<a href="/wiki/NCI-60" title="NCI-60">NCI-60</a><sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>、<a href="/wiki/LL-100" title="LL-100">LL-100</a><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>、<a href="/wiki/ICBP43" title="ICBP43">ICBP43</a><sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>、<a href="/wiki/JFCR39" title="JFCR39">JFCR39</a><sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>这一系列panel条目。--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240312084300-2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月12日 (二) 08:43 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240312084300-2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240312105800-Htmlzycq-20240312084300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月12日 (二) 10:58 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240312105800-Htmlzycq-20240312084300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240312105800","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240312105800-Htmlzycq-20240312084300","replies":["c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240313030800-Htmlzycq-20240312105800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240312105800-Htmlzycq-20240312084300"></span> <dl><dd><span style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240313030800-Htmlzycq-20240312105800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq" title="User:Htmlzycq">Htmlzycq</a>:</span>這些化合物條目確實很有索引價值,工作量巨大,閣下貢獻應值維基編輯專家的榮譽<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83791214"><mark class="skin-invert text-blocked inline-text-block-hd" title="你知道的太多了" style="background-color: #000000bf">可惜閣下用戶頁明言不喜歡維基榮譽.....</mark>除細胞系之外,我想到還有大腸桿菌與酵母菌菌株,常用小鼠品系、常用質粒、慢病毒等,應該很多是符合關注度但在各語言維基均無條目的,這方面潛力巨大,也有相當價值。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240313030800-Htmlzycq-20240312105800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月13日 (三) 03:08 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240313030800-Htmlzycq-20240312105800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-2">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">英文版有点乱</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-3">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">英文版是在下2022年建的,本想抛砖引玉,但也寥寥</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-4">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">英文版是收录标准不确定的乳癌细胞列表</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-5">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">不知能不能建立日文版</span> </li> </ol></div> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:CYP21Aevolution.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/CYP21Aevolution.png/400px-CYP21Aevolution.png" decoding="async" width="400" height="164" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/CYP21Aevolution.png/600px-CYP21Aevolution.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/CYP21Aevolution.png/800px-CYP21Aevolution.png 2x" data-file-width="2340" data-file-height="962"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>在下只是觉得“維基榮譽”会让人<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83791214"><mark class="skin-invert text-blocked inline-text-block-hd" title="你知道的太多了" style="background-color: #000000bf">骄傲不前<abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr></mark>,所以说觉得会增加新老用户的隔阂,不过最近站内增加了“此用户有XX,XXX次编辑,账号创建于XXXX年XX月XX日”让老用户藏不住了<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>囧rz……</b>。 </p><p>说一件另一个感慨的事情,就是<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21-Hydroxylase" class="extiw" title="en:21-Hydroxylase">en:21-Hydroxylase</a>在20-21年间大幅度扩充并申请英文优良条目的时间,在下参与了一点点小编辑,如上传了右图(不过存在一定问题,就是<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCCX" class="extiw" title="en:RCCX">en:RCCX</a>重复并非只发生在<a href="/wiki/%E9%9D%88%E9%95%B7%E7%B8%BD%E7%9B%AE" title="靈長總目">人鼠共同祖先</a>) </p><p>后续22-23年,Maxim Masiutin就专门创建了RCCX条目,解决了在下的一点点疑惑 --<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240313052600-2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月13日 (三) 05:26 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240313052600-2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240313052600","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240313052600-2024","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240313052600-2024"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Htmlzycq-20240319032000-2024"></span>在法语维基发现一个有用的生物技术类模板<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Palette_Fluorophores" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:Palette Fluorophores">fr:Modèle:Palette Fluorophores</a>,感觉与在下之前建立的<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:PCR" class="extiw" title="en:Template:PCR">en:Template:PCR</a>、<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Restriction_enzyme" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Restriction enzyme">en:Template:Restriction enzyme</a>以及葡萄牙语里的<a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predefini%C3%A7%C3%A3o:CRISPR" class="extiw" title="pt:Predefinição:CRISPR">pt:Predefinição:CRISPR</a>有异曲同工之妙,都是关注于一个生物技术领域的模板,打算有空就搬运到中文来。--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240319032000-2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月19日 (二) 03:20 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240319032000-2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240319032000","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240319032000-2024","replies":["c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240319093000-Htmlzycq-20240319032000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240319032000-2024"></span> </p> <ul><li><span style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240319093000-Htmlzycq-20240319032000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq" title="User:Htmlzycq">Htmlzycq</a>:</span>感謝,我感覺生物技術、實驗用品的條目不只中文版缺乏,英文版也還有很多空間,有關注度的技術、酵素、質粒、菌株等應該是遠遠不止這些。</li></ul> <dl><dd>剛剛看到有一位新人開始寫真菌條目,真是令人期待。閣下現在接受維基榮譽嗎?接受的話我就去提名閣下為維基編輯專家啦。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240319093000-Htmlzycq-20240319032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月19日 (二) 09:30 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240319093000-Htmlzycq-20240319032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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font-size:120%; padding-left:5px; padding-bottom:8px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ericliu1912-20240312084600-《維基人》第十六期(2024年3月)"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hant.svg/125px-Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hant.svg.png" decoding="async" width="125" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hant.svg/188px-Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hant.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hant.svg/250px-Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hant.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="166"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hans.svg/125px-Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hans.svg.png" decoding="async" width="125" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hans.svg/188px-Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hans.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hans.svg/250px-Wikipedian_Journal_Title_zh-hans.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="166"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><b>本期內容</b></div></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; padding-bottom:8px;"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E5%85%AD%E6%9C%9F/%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E%E5%92%8C%E6%9C%9F%E5%88%8A%E6%91%98%E9%8C%84" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/第十六期/新聞和期刊摘錄">新聞和期刊摘錄</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E5%85%AD%E6%9C%9F/%E4%B8%8D%E6%98%AF%E4%BD%9C%E5%93%81%E5%9C%A8%E4%BE%86%E6%BA%90%E5%9C%8B%E7%89%88%E6%AC%8A%E5%88%B0%E6%9C%9F%E5%B0%B1%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%94%BE%E4%B8%8A%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E5%85%B1%E4%BA%AB%E8%B3%87%E6%BA%90" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/第十六期/不是作品在來源國版權到期就可以放上維基共享資源">指南針:不是作品在來源國版權到期就可以放上維基共享資源</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E5%85%AD%E6%9C%9F/%E8%BF%87%E5%A4%B1%E5%BC%BA%E5%A5%B8%E7%BD%AA%EF%BC%8C%E5%BE%88%E9%87%8D%E8%A6%81" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/第十六期/过失强奸罪,很重要">專題報導:过失强奸罪,很重要</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E5%85%AD%E6%9C%9F/%E8%A8%AA%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E7%99%BD%E7%A3%B7" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/第十六期/訪維基人白磷">維基人專訪:白磷</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E5%85%AD%E6%9C%9F/%E7%94%B3%E5%A0%B1%E8%A7%A3%E5%B0%81%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/第十六期/申報解封維基百科">鑑往知來:申報解封維基百科</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E5%85%AD%E6%9C%9F/%E8%B0%88%E4%BD%B3%E5%A3%AB%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6%E6%9D%A1%E7%9B%AE" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/第十六期/谈佳士事件条目">維基評述:谈佳士事件条目</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E5%85%AD%E6%9C%9F/%E4%BD%A0%E7%9A%84%E7%9C%BC%E7%9D%9B%E4%B8%8D%E6%98%AF%E5%8F%AF%E9%9D%A0%E4%BE%86%E6%BA%90" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/第十六期/你的眼睛不是可靠來源">維基評述:你的眼睛不是可靠來源</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E5%85%AD%E6%9C%9F/%E5%BE%9E%E5%8D%94%E4%BD%9C%E8%AE%8A%E6%9C%8B%E5%8F%8B%EF%BC%8C%E8%AE%93%E4%BA%BA%E7%94%9F%E6%9B%B4%E5%AE%8C%E6%95%B4%E7%9A%84%E5%A5%B3%E6%80%A7%E6%9B%B8%E5%AF%AB" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/第十六期/從協作變朋友,讓人生更完整的女性書寫">薇姬的房間:從協作變朋友,讓人生更完整的女性書寫</a></li></ul> </div> <div style="clear:both; margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E5%BE%80%E6%9C%9F%E5%AD%98%E6%A1%A3" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/往期存档">往期存檔</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E6%8A%95%E7%A8%BF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/投稿平台">向《維基人》投稿</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E3%80%8A%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8B/%E8%AE%A2%E9%98%85%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8" title="Wikipedia:《维基人》/订阅列表">調整訂閱</a> · <b><a href="/wiki/User:Ericliu1912" title="User:Ericliu1912">Eric Liu</a></b><sub> 創造は生命(<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ericliu1912" title="User talk:Ericliu1912">留言</a>・<a href="/wiki/User:Ericliu1912#訪客芳名錄" title="User:Ericliu1912">留名</a>・<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E5%AD%B8%E7%94%9F%E6%9C%83" title="Wikipedia:維基學生會">學生會</a></b>)</sub> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Ericliu1912-20240312084600-《維基人》第十六期(2024年3月)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月12日 (二) 08:46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ericliu1912-20240312084600-《維基人》第十六期(2024年3月)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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Liu"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ericliu1912-20240312084600-Ericliu1912-20240312084600"></span> <dl><dd><span style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240313030000-Ericliu1912-20240312084600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ericliu1912" title="User:Ericliu1912">Ericliu1912</a>:</span>感謝,終於發了--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240313030000-Ericliu1912-20240312084600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月13日 (三) 03:00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240313030000-Ericliu1912-20240312084600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Ericliu1912-20240313030300-靖天子-20240313030000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月13日 (三) 03:03 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ericliu1912-20240313030300-靖天子-20240313030000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240313030300","author":"Ericliu1912","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ericliu1912-20240313030300-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240313030000","replies":["c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240415220600-Ericliu1912-20240313030300"],"displayName":"Eric Liu"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ericliu1912-20240313030300-靖天子-20240313030000"></span> <dl><dd><span style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240415220600-Ericliu1912-20240313030300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ericliu1912" title="User:Ericliu1912">Ericliu1912</a>:</span>我剛好有很好的題材,下期已經在準備了?--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240415220600-Ericliu1912-20240313030300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年4月15日 (一) 22:06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240415220600-Ericliu1912-20240313030300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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<table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="top"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WindWingWalker-20240321053900-星章送給你!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C%E6%98%9F%E7%AB%A0.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C%E6%98%9F%E7%AB%A0.png/100px-%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C%E6%98%9F%E7%AB%A0.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C%E6%98%9F%E7%AB%A0.png/150px-%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C%E6%98%9F%E7%AB%A0.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C%E6%98%9F%E7%AB%A0.png/200px-%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C%E6%98%9F%E7%AB%A0.png 2x" data-file-width="631" data-file-height="599"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;"><b>真菌星章</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">感謝閣下對本人的真菌新條目候選提出豐富且具體的建議。閣下在真菌主題貢獻也帶給本人很大的鼓舞和參考價值 <a href="/wiki/User:WindWingWalker" title="User:WindWingWalker">WindWingWalker</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WindWingWalker" title="User talk:WindWingWalker">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-WindWingWalker-20240321053900-星章送給你!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月21日 (四) 05:39 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WindWingWalker-20240321053900-星章送給你!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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(精子)}}来消歧义即可,无需建立只有两个义项的消歧义。不过,最近发现俄语里也是把两者翻译成一个词,在2015年也建立了消歧义<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>囧rz……</b>,比阁下还晚了两年,于是就把两个通过wikidata连接起来了,晚了七年多。 </p><p>另外,用作<a href="/wiki/%E6%A8%A1%E5%BC%8F%E7%94%9F%E7%89%A9" title="模式生物">模式生物</a>的具体是<a href="/wiki/%E9%A9%B9%E5%BD%A2%E6%B0%8F%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E5%B1%9E" title="驹形氏酵母属">驹形氏酵母属</a>下的哪一种?在下认为{{<a href="/wiki/Template:%E6%A8%A1%E5%BC%8F%E7%94%9F%E7%89%A9" title="Template:模式生物">模式生物</a>}}这一模板应该挂在种的条目下而非属的条目下。 </p><p>最后,wikidata真是个好东西,折毛东窗事发前,在下是有过怀疑的,就是那些内容在wikidata里检索,搜不到任何有用的信息,在下当时的猜测是wikidata对西里尔字母文字内容的兼容度不够,没想到结果居然是这样。--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240324032600-星章送給你!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月24日 (日) 03:26 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240324032600-星章送給你!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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title="毕赤酵母属">畢赤酵母屬</a>(<i>Pichia</i>)的,但分子支序起來後把用作模式生物的<i>Pichia pastoris</i>從<i>Pichia</i>屬中移出,新建立<a href="/wiki/%E9%A9%B9%E5%BD%A2%E6%B0%8F%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E5%B1%9E" title="驹形氏酵母属">驹形氏酵母属</a>,造成現在「畢赤酵母」不屬於「畢赤酵母屬」的狀況。作為模式生物的畢赤酵母原稱<i>Pichia pastoris</i>,在移入驹形氏酵母属後(<i>K. pastoris</i>),2005年又基於分子證據把某些菌株(美國菌株)分出<i>K. phaffii</i>這一新種,其他則留在<i>K. pastoris</i>(法國菌株),因此現在作為模式生物的有效物種包括<i>K. pastoris</i>與<i>K. phaffii</i>,其中應該以<i>K. phaffii</i>較多,最常用的菌株CBS7435是屬於<i>K. phaffii</i>。另外5種2000年後才發表的新種都是單一研究從資料庫中根據支序分析做出來的,看起來都是樹上採出的標本,應該沒有被做成菌株用作模式生物。</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>這就造成中文命名上很大的麻煩,<a href="/wiki/%E7%95%A2%E8%B5%A4%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D" class="mw-redirect" title="畢赤酵母">畢赤酵母</a>這個名稱應該是指<i>Pichia pastoris</i>這個<i><a href="/w/index.php?title=Sensu_lato&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Sensu lato(页面不存在)">sensu lato</a></i>的概念,因此在下對應物種把他重定向到了<a href="/wiki/%E9%A9%B9%E5%BD%A2%E6%B0%8F%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E5%B1%9E" title="驹形氏酵母属">驹形氏酵母属</a>,而非定向到<a href="/wiki/%E6%AF%95%E8%B5%A4%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E5%B1%9E" title="毕赤酵母属">畢赤酵母屬</a>或<a href="/wiki/%E6%AF%95%E8%B5%A4%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E7%A7%91" title="毕赤酵母科">畢赤酵母科</a>,但<i>K. pastoris</i>與<i>K. phaffii</i>的中文名稱就不好辦了,在下覺得這七個物種根本就不該寫成條目(英文版也沒有種的條目),沒有辦法給定中文名不說,這些物種沒有任何表型的差異,僅有DNA序列的差異,反而一個物種可能包括許多表型差異很大的菌株,如果要把<i>K. pastoris</i>跟<i>K. phaffii</i>獨立成條,會有大量資訊無法細分到具體物種的情況。而且原本的<a href="/wiki/%E6%AF%95%E8%B5%A4%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E5%B1%9E" title="毕赤酵母属">畢赤酵母屬</a>還有其他物種被用作模式生物,例如<i>Pichia Angusta</i>(但這個居然也被分到別的屬,成為<i><span class="ilh-all" data-orig-title="Ogataea polymorpha" data-lang-code="en" data-lang-name="英语" data-foreign-title="Ogataea polymorpha"><span class="ilh-page"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Ogataea_polymorpha&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Ogataea polymorpha(页面不存在)">Ogataea polymorpha</a></span><span class="noprint ilh-comment">(<span class="ilh-lang">英语</span><span class="ilh-colon">:</span><span class="ilh-link"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogataea_polymorpha" class="extiw" title="en:Ogataea polymorpha"><span lang="en" dir="auto">Ogataea polymorpha</span></a></span>)</span></span></i>去了.....)實至今日都還有人用畢赤酵母作為模式生物時,使用<i>Pichia pastoris</i>這個舊名,中文語境中更加混亂。</dd> <dd>在下覺得整個維基的物種分類框就應該全由Wikidata達成,自動輸出分類框,甚至可以直接輸出簡單的條目<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83791214"><mark class="skin-invert text-blocked inline-text-block-hd" title="你知道的太多了" style="background-color: white">估計比人肉機器人寫得更為準確</mark>,有任何分類改動直接在Wikidata進行,每半年一年用機器人在各個語言的維基跑一次,更新分類資訊,同名的條目合併,新種的條目分拆,這樣繁瑣的工作給機器人運行應該比人類能做得好得多,像現在各個語言的維基分類資訊經常相互矛盾,維護耗時耗力,事倍功半,實際是以人工來維持一個龐大的資料庫,效率與精準度都不如機器人。折毛事發前我沒懷疑過,剛爆發時我還當成是抹黑的.....</dd> <dd>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:%E6%A8%A1%E5%BC%8F%E7%94%9F%E7%89%A9" title="Template:模式生物">模式生物</a>}}我看還能擴充,有幾種比較典型的模式生物沒在上面,比如<a href="/wiki/%E7%9B%98%E5%9F%BA%E7%BD%91%E6%9F%84%E8%8F%8C" title="盘基网柄菌">盘基网柄菌</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E5%A2%A8%E8%A5%BF%E5%93%A5%E9%88%8D%E5%8F%A3%E8%9E%88" class="mw-redirect" title="墨西哥鈍口螈">墨西哥鈍口螈</a>、<a href="/wiki/SV40" title="SV40">SV40</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E8%8F%B8%E8%8D%89%E9%91%B2%E5%B5%8C%E7%97%85%E6%AF%92" title="菸草鑲嵌病毒">菸草鑲嵌病毒</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E6%9E%AF%E8%8D%89%E6%A1%BF%E8%8F%8C" title="枯草桿菌">枯草桿菌</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E8%A3%B8%E9%BC%B9%E9%BC%A0" title="裸鼹鼠">裸鼴鼠</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E6%81%92%E6%B2%B3%E7%8C%B4" class="mw-redirect" title="恒河猴">恆河猴</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E8%B1%9A%E9%BC%A0" title="豚鼠">豚鼠</a>這幾個我感覺可以加入,並把若干種最為有代表性的加粗(<a href="/wiki/%E5%B0%8F%E9%BC%A0" class="mw-redirect" title="小鼠">小鼠</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E5%A4%A7%E9%BC%A0" class="mw-redirect" title="大鼠">大鼠</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E9%BB%91%E8%85%B9%E6%9E%9C%E8%A0%85" class="mw-redirect" title="黑腹果蠅">黑腹果蠅</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E7%A7%80%E9%BA%97%E9%9A%B1%E6%A1%BF%E7%B7%9A%E8%9F%B2" title="秀麗隱桿線蟲">秀麗隱桿線蟲</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E6%96%91%E9%A6%AC%E9%AD%9A" title="斑馬魚">斑馬魚</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E5%A4%A7%E8%85%B8%E6%A1%BF%E8%8F%8C" title="大腸桿菌">大腸桿菌</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E9%87%80%E9%85%92%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D" title="釀酒酵母">釀酒酵母</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E9%98%BF%E6%8B%89%E4%BC%AF%E8%8A%A5" class="mw-redirect" title="阿拉伯芥">阿拉伯芥</a>)--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240325035400-Htmlzycq-20240324032600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月25日 (一) 03:54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240325035400-Htmlzycq-20240324032600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr>,阿拉伯语条目也试了一下,不过没找到,不过阿拉伯语里一个是جسيم_قمي,一个是جسم_مدبب_(فطريات)</dd></dl> <p>那就先挂属这里好了,等以后有学者深入研究了,再改好了。在下试着<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:%E6%A8%A1%E5%BC%8F%E7%94%9F%E7%89%A9" title="Template talk:模式生物">Template talk:模式生物</a>找了一下pubmed的文章数,感觉最开始的想法,给>10,0000文章的模式生物加粗,不靠谱,因为不同领域差距过大了,还是先按照文章数量排名好了。顺便加了几个<a href="/wiki/%E5%93%BA%E4%B9%B3%E5%8A%A8%E7%89%A9" title="哺乳动物">哺乳动物</a>物种,主要是在下手头拿着一本《实用医学实验动物学》,想把里面列出的常用<a href="/wiki/%E5%AE%9E%E9%AA%8C%E5%8A%A8%E7%89%A9" title="实验动物">实验动物</a>都放上去,但是一排板,发现哺乳动物有些多了,在下想的办法是把哺乳动物从动物下单列出来。 </p><p>在下用的是“引用”下面的第一个“模板”,会点出“cite journal”,填PMID或DOI号自动生成的。--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240325045600-星章送給你!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月25日 (一) 04:56 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240325045600-星章送給你!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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href="/wiki/%E6%81%92%E6%B2%B3%E7%8C%B4" class="mw-redirect" title="恒河猴">恆河猴</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E6%96%91%E9%A6%AC%E9%AD%9A" title="斑馬魚">斑馬魚</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E8%B1%9A%E9%BC%A0" title="豚鼠">豚鼠</a>.....無脊椎動物:<a href="/wiki/%E9%BB%91%E8%85%B9%E6%9E%9C%E8%A0%85" class="mw-redirect" title="黑腹果蠅">黑腹果蠅</a>、<a href="/wiki/%E7%A7%80%E9%BA%97%E9%9A%B1%E6%A1%BF%E7%B7%9A%E8%9F%B2" title="秀麗隱桿線蟲">秀麗隱桿線蟲</a>,或許再加上家蠶。並把部分物種加粗(想不到什麼客觀標準,大部分資料庫都嚴重傾向動物,上面列幾個是在下認為比較典型的)。</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/%E9%A9%B9%E5%BD%A2%E6%B0%8F%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E5%B1%9E" title="驹形氏酵母属">驹形氏酵母属</a>又寫了一點,希望比較清楚。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240325075500-Htmlzycq-20240325045600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月25日 (一) 07:55 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240325075500-Htmlzycq-20240325045600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240325075500","author":"\u9756\u5929\u5b50","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240325075500-Htmlzycq-20240325045600","replies":[],"displayName":"Wikimycota"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-靖天子-20240325075500-Htmlzycq-20240325045600"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Htmlzycq-20240326052900-星章送給你!"></span> Mesomycetozoea终于建立中文條目了,谢谢阁下,“原创译名”就原创好了,总比什么都不做要好。另外,在下也觉得罗兹菌门(Rozellomycota)比隐真菌门(Cryptomycota)好,后者容易被当成“狭义真菌”的一门--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240326052900-星章送給你!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月26日 (二) 05:29 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240326052900-星章送給你!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240326052900","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240326052900-\u661f\u7ae0\u9001\u7d66\u4f60\uff01","replies":["c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240326060200-Htmlzycq-20240326052900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240326052900-星章送給你!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240326060200-Htmlzycq-20240326052900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq" title="User:Htmlzycq">Htmlzycq</a>:</span>這個原創確實是非常之舉,看到閣下在修改模板,讓我突然有一股衝動直面解決這個真核生物分類模板第一大難題,錯譯從中文維基外溢到無數中文來源(包括<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=ePVcEAAAQBAJ&amp;pg=PA114&amp;lpg=PA114&amp;dq=mesomycetozoea+%E4%B8%AD%E9%BB%8F%E8%8F%8C%E9%96%80&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=5Pvx5jJN_M&amp;sig=ACfU3U19u5IQLoUKRcYI5ajvF5pmqXlDpw&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiElZXqmpGFAxXOHEQIHQJpAfI4FBDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&amp;q=mesomycetozoea&amp;f=false">數</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://taieol.tw/pages/221792/taxonomy">個</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.aquaticjournal.com/article/doi/10.11964/jfc.20210312707?viewType=html">可</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://m.fx361.com/news/2022/1126/11676296.html">靠</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://cfe-fish.blog.ntu.edu.tw/upload/doc/202012181022490.pdf">來</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.chinagene.cn/CN/10.3724/SP.J.1005.2014.0669">源</a>)、咱們討論多年多次的<b><a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%8C%E5%8A%A8%E7%89%A9" title="中菌动物">中黏菌門</a></b>,坦白說這個鍋我也有一部份,因為我估計製作一些模板時(例如{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Opisthokont_protists" title="Template:Opisthokont protists">Opisthokont protists</a>}})也用了這名字。這次直接寫了條目,希望可以收一錘定音之效,漸漸外溢蓋過錯誤的譯名。<a href="/wiki/%E9%9A%B1%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C%E9%96%80" class="mw-redirect" title="隱真菌門">隱真菌門</a>閣下覺得要直接移動到<a href="/wiki/%E7%BE%85%E8%8C%B2%E8%8F%8C%E9%96%80" class="mw-redirect" title="羅茲菌門">羅茲菌門</a>嗎?隱真菌門確實太像<a href="/wiki/%E9%9A%B1%E7%90%83%E8%8F%8C%E5%B1%AC" title="隱球菌屬">隱球菌屬</a>。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240326060200-Htmlzycq-20240326052900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月26日 (二) 06:02 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240326060200-Htmlzycq-20240326052900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240326060200","author":"\u9756\u5929\u5b50","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240326060200-Htmlzycq-20240326052900","replies":[],"displayName":"Wikimycota"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-靖天子-20240326060200-Htmlzycq-20240326052900"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Htmlzycq-20240328115700-星章送給你!"></span>感谢阁下建立了{{<a href="/wiki/Template:%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E8%8F%8C" title="Template:酵母菌">酵母菌</a>}},在下将{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Fungus_navs" title="Template:Fungus navs">Fungus navs</a>}}稍微改造了一下。光增加“酵母”在下觉得有些孤零零,就觉得蘑菇也可以专门制作一个类似的模板,比如类似酵母菌,有哪些科属的真菌可以形成“蘑菇”,还有就是蘑菇的常见解剖结构等等。。。当然,阁下觉得不妥也可以删去。另外,英文维基还是有几个酵母菌菌株条目的,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y187" class="extiw" title="en:Y187">en:Y187</a>、<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AH109" class="extiw" title="en:AH109">en:AH109</a>等。--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240328115700-星章送給你!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月28日 (四) 11:57 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240328115700-星章送給你!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240328115700","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240328115700-\u661f\u7ae0\u9001\u7d66\u4f60\uff01","replies":["c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240329065800-Htmlzycq-20240328115700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240328115700-星章送給你!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240329065800-Htmlzycq-20240328115700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq" title="User:Htmlzycq">Htmlzycq</a>:</span>突然又入坑真菌了...以前從來不曉得<a href="/wiki/%E6%8B%85%E5%AD%90%E8%8F%8C%E9%97%A8" title="担子菌门">擔子菌門</a>黑粉菌跟鏽菌那兩支居然那麼多酵母菌類群(以為都是植物病原菌),只知道銀耳那一支,相當意外。另外我也試著找子囊擔子以外,以前屬於<a href="/wiki/%E6%8E%A5%E5%90%88%E8%8F%8C%E9%97%A8" title="接合菌门">接合菌門</a>的真菌有沒有任何酵母菌,結果遺憾是完全沒有<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83791214"><mark class="skin-invert text-blocked inline-text-block-hd" title="你知道的太多了" style="background-color: white">沒看到文章把微孢子蟲當成酵母菌,頂多說yeast-like,在下還是把它放在相關條目有點夾帶私貨了</mark>。蕈類模板我得想想,不曉得這個「蕈類」應不應該包含馬勃、鳥巢菌、羊肚菌、鬼筆等等其他形狀的子實體,還是僅包含傘菌,如果是後者,那絕大部分類群就是<a href="/wiki/%E4%BC%9E%E8%8F%8C%E7%9B%AE" title="伞菌目">傘菌目</a>之下了,而且即使僅考慮傘菌,科數也會上百。在下打算重新設計{{<a href="/wiki/Template:%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C" title="Template:真菌">真菌</a>}},到時再看看有沒有辦法安排一個{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:%E8%95%88%E9%A1%9E&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:蕈類(页面不存在)">蕈類</a>}}。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240329065800-Htmlzycq-20240328115700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月29日 (五) 06:58 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240329065800-Htmlzycq-20240328115700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240329065800","author":"\u9756\u5929\u5b50","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240329065800-Htmlzycq-20240328115700","replies":[],"displayName":"Wikimycota"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-靖天子-20240329065800-Htmlzycq-20240328115700"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Htmlzycq-20240329083100-星章送給你!"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83791214"><mark class="skin-invert text-blocked inline-text-block-hd" title="你知道的太多了" style="background-color: white">我说怪不得微孢子蟲明明隔得这么远,也列入相關條目,原来是阁下夾帶私貨啊</mark>在下是觉得{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:%E8%95%88%E9%A1%9E&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:蕈類(页面不存在)">蕈類</a>}}要包括其他形狀的子實體的,本来在下想给{{<a href="/wiki/Template:%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E8%8F%8C" title="Template:酵母菌">酵母菌</a>}}作伴的是{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:%E8%98%91%E8%8F%87&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:蘑菇(页面不存在)">蘑菇</a>}},因为“蕈”一字其实并不常用,但是狭义蘑菇就只有“<a href="/wiki/%E4%BC%9E%E8%8F%8C%E5%B1%9E" title="伞菌属">蘑菇属</a>”,将来有可能重定向到{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:%E4%BC%9E%E8%8F%8C%E5%B1%9E&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:伞菌属(页面不存在)">伞菌属</a>}},还是用“蕈”好了。另外,<a href="/wiki/%E6%9D%8E%E7%8E%89_(%E8%8F%8C%E7%89%A9%E5%AD%A6%E5%AE%B6)" title="李玉 (菌物学家)">李玉院士</a>来在下所在学校作报告的时候提到过,“蘑菇”其实是元朝以后进入汉语的蒙古语词汇,“菌蕈”才是古汉语对蘑菇的称呼。--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240329083100-星章送給你!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月29日 (五) 08:31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240329083100-星章送給你!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240329083100","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240329083100-\u661f\u7ae0\u9001\u7d66\u4f60\uff01","replies":["c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240330023000-Htmlzycq-20240329083100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240329083100-星章送給你!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240330023000-Htmlzycq-20240329083100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq" title="User:Htmlzycq">Htmlzycq</a>:</span>原來如此,在下還以為蘑菇才是古漢語詞彙,以前不知道在哪看過「蘑」跟「帽」是同源的,發音接近,因為蘑菇最早是因形似帽子得名<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>囧rz……</b>。</dd> <dd>{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:%E8%95%88%E9%A1%9E&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:蕈類(页面不存在)">蕈類</a>}},我想大概可以用不同形狀的子實體作為主要區分依據,分別列出有哪些科的真菌具有各類子實體。除蕈類跟酵母外,{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:%E9%BB%B4%E8%8F%8C&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:黴菌(页面不存在)">黴菌</a>}}、{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:%E8%9F%B2%E7%94%9F%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:蟲生真菌(页面不存在)">蟲生真菌</a>}}、{{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:%E6%A4%8D%E7%89%A9%E7%97%85%E5%8E%9F%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:植物病原真菌(页面不存在)">植物病原真菌</a>}}應該也能建立,不過這些在下的了解就很少了。</dd> <dd>今天查到幾個有意思的類群:1.<a href="/wiki/%E9%94%A4%E8%88%8C%E8%8F%8C%E7%BA%B2" title="锤舌菌纲">錘舌菌綱</a>居然都發現有酵母菌<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/ijsem/10.1099/ijsem.0.004862#tab2">[1]</a>看來菌絲體往酵母菌的演化太容易發生了。2.<a href="/wiki/%E5%8E%9F%E5%AD%A2%E5%9B%8A%E8%97%BB%E5%B1%9E" title="原孢囊藻属">原孢囊藻屬</a>:這玩意兒是失去葉綠素的一類<a href="/wiki/%E7%B6%A0%E8%97%BB%E9%96%80" title="綠藻門">綠藻</a>,雖然早就知道不是真菌,還是被列入酵母菌。The Yeasts - A Taxonomic Study第五版除了子囊菌擔子菌外,還收入了幾種這種綠藻(上網搜圖,菌落確實長的跟一般酵母菌一模一樣)......3.<a href="/wiki/%E8%8A%BD%E5%9B%8A%E5%8E%9F%E8%99%AB%E5%B1%9E" title="芽囊原虫属">芽囊原蟲屬</a>:SAR的,也被部分人列入酵母菌。</dd> <dd>另外,{{<a href="/wiki/Template:%E6%A8%A1%E5%BC%8F%E7%94%9F%E7%89%A9" title="Template:模式生物">模式生物</a>}}因為涉及的領域遠超遺傳學,在下建議將標題改成「生物學研究中常用的模式生物」,閣下以為如何?--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240330023000-Htmlzycq-20240329083100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月30日 (六) 02:30 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240330023000-Htmlzycq-20240329083100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240330023000","author":"\u9756\u5929\u5b50","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240330023000-Htmlzycq-20240329083100","replies":["c-Htmlzycq-20240330043500-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240330023000"],"displayName":"Wikimycota"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-靖天子-20240330023000-Htmlzycq-20240329083100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Htmlzycq-20240330043500-靖天子-20240330023000"></span>原来如此,不知道The Yeasts - A Taxonomic Study把它们列入“yeast-like”的标准是什么?形态学上相似还是都走酒精发酵路线?另外,在下推测“菌蕈”一词在<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%8F%A4%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD" title="中古汉语">中古汉语</a>中的读音,有点类似于“国郡”,属于一种连绵词,“木生为菌,土生为蕈”还是“土生为菌,木生为蕈”来着在下忘了。最后“蘑菇”从蒙古语进入<a href="/wiki/%E8%BF%91%E5%8F%A4%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E" class="mw-redirect" title="近古漢語">近古汉语</a>,不代表其前身不会是从<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%8A%E5%8F%A4%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD" title="上古汉语">上古汉语</a>进入蒙古语,类似的例子有“博士”到“拔思黑”再到“耍把式”,“太子”到“台吉”再到“皇太极”,所以“蘑”跟“帽”同源一说也是有可能的--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240330043500-靖天子-20240330023000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月30日 (六) 04:35 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240330043500-靖天子-20240330023000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240330043500","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240330043500-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240330023000","replies":["c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240330052600-Htmlzycq-20240330043500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240330043500-靖天子-20240330023000"></span> <dl><dd><span style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240330052600-Htmlzycq-20240330043500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq" title="User:Htmlzycq">Htmlzycq</a>:</span>應該主要是型態(菌落、細胞)相似、無偽足、不能移動等,沒有查到這些生物可以發酵。而且在明知其為真菌之後,仍列入酵母菌研究範疇(其感染也列入醫用真菌學之下討論)。</dd> <dd>有意思,原來閣下也有涉獵語言學,在下有一段時間很著迷這個。這就讓我想到,既然「菌」在漢語長期是指菇類,為何翻譯bacteria的人會以此字翻譯「西洋發現之極微小生物」,畢竟細菌與菇類似無明顯關聯。「國郡」算是<a href="/wiki/%E9%98%B4%E9%98%B3%E5%AF%B9%E8%BD%AC" class="mw-redirect" title="阴阳对转">陰陽對轉</a>嗎?--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240330052600-Htmlzycq-20240330043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月30日 (六) 05:26 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240330052600-Htmlzycq-20240330043500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240330052600","author":"\u9756\u5929\u5b50","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240330052600-Htmlzycq-20240330043500","replies":[],"displayName":"Wikimycota"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-靖天子-20240330052600-Htmlzycq-20240330043500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Htmlzycq-20240330081800-星章送給你!"></span>语言学在下只是知道一点点皮毛而已<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>囧rz……</b>,<a href="/wiki/%E6%9D%8E%E7%8E%89_(%E8%8F%8C%E7%89%A9%E5%AD%A6%E5%AE%B6)" title="李玉 (菌物学家)">李玉院士</a>来讲座是好多年前了,他的说法在下可能有些记错了,不保准确。大致是,“蘑菇”进入后,“菌蕈”逐渐让位。后来bacteria从西洋翻譯而来时,是与Fungi一起进来的,当时已经知道了Fungi是真核生物,大小远大于bacteria,也知道Fungi包括了“蘑菇”等,于是用了“菌”字来统盖这些微生物,较大的真核的为“真菌”,较小的原核的为“细菌”。“细”是小的意思,指代其比真核的真菌细胞小。“真”字可能指代其是“蘑菇”的本体?(这点在下觉得可能性较大)或者指“真核”的菌?(这点在下觉得可能性较小,毕竟“真核”这一概念较晚才进入) </p><p>这导致今天人们翻译“Eumycota (True Fungi)”一词非常麻烦,“真真菌”?<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>囧rz……</b>在下的处理办法是“狭义真菌”,先应付一下--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240330081800-星章送給你!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月30日 (六) 08:18 (UTC)</a><span 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title="羅茲菌門">羅茲菌門</a>、Aphelidiomycota逐漸被廣泛接受為真菌後,Eumycota這個概念會漸漸消失,這兩者應該會在以後的課本中「正式」成為真菌,就像我們現在看<a href="/wiki/%E5%A3%BA%E8%8F%8C" class="mw-redirect" title="壺菌">壺菌</a>是核心真菌一樣。<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83791214"><mark class="skin-invert text-blocked inline-text-block-hd" title="你知道的太多了" style="background-color: white">高晶的條目問題比想像中大啊,本來以為就是分類過時(這不能怪他)和譯名問題,最近隨便看就發現許多根本性錯誤,還有大規模使用半型標點符號的</mark>--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240330101800-Htmlzycq-20240330081800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年3月30日 (六) 10:18 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240330101800-Htmlzycq-20240330081800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" 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typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_%E5%9B%A7_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>囧rz……</b></mark>在下当初觉得其之于真菌学的重要性堪比<a href="/wiki/RaTG13%E7%97%85%E6%AF%92" title="RaTG13病毒">RaTG13病毒</a>之于病毒学,所以就自作主张推荐了 </p><p>话说Eumycota这个词,在下看法和阁下有点不同。在下推测会和Eumetazoa一样流传下来,哪怕有朝一日栉水母被赶出去,海绵被纳入进来。。。 </p><p>另外就是“硝质体”的新闻,不知阁下看到了没,在下去enwiki看了有没有人建立Nitroplast这个条目,果然还没有,不过这两天确有人在Nitrogen fixation和Atelocyanobacterium thalassa这两个条目里加入了相关引用。 </p><p>算是符合在下对英文维基的预期吧,如果过早建立,很可能被以没有充足的参考文献为理由,重定向到Atelocyanobacterium thalassa--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240414110200-奇異酵母上首页了" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年4月14日 (日) 11:02 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240414110200-奇異酵母上首页了"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240414110200","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240414110200-\u5947\u7570\u9175\u6bcd\u4e0a\u9996\u9875\u4e86","replies":["c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240414222500-Htmlzycq-20240414110200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240414110200-奇異酵母上首页了"></span> </p> <ul><li><span style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240414222500-Htmlzycq-20240414110200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq" title="User:Htmlzycq">Htmlzycq</a>:</span>去查了才知,驚訝了...這讓我想起曾轟動一時、後來沒有下文(<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/345449815_Deep-Sea_Bacteria_Harboring_Bacterial_Endosymbionts_in_a_Cytoplasm_3D_Electron_Microscopy_by_Serial_Ultrathin_Sectioning_of_Freeze-Substituted_Specimen">甚至可能是arfifact</a>)的<a href="/wiki/%E5%87%86%E6%A0%B8%E7%94%9F%E7%89%A9" title="准核生物">准核生物</a>,還有前年本來想寫、不知道中文名怎下而作罷的<i><span class="ilh-all" data-orig-title="Azoamicus ciliaticola" data-lang-code="en" data-lang-name="英语" data-foreign-title="Azoamicus ciliaticola"><span class="ilh-page"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Azoamicus_ciliaticola&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Azoamicus ciliaticola(页面不存在)">Azoamicus ciliaticola</a></span><span class="noprint ilh-comment">(<span class="ilh-lang">英语</span><span class="ilh-colon">:</span><span class="ilh-link"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azoamicus_ciliaticola" class="extiw" title="en:Azoamicus ciliaticola"><span lang="en" dir="auto">Azoamicus ciliaticola</span></a></span>)</span></span></i>(<a href="/wiki/%E7%BA%96%E6%AF%9B%E8%9F%B2" class="mw-redirect" title="纖毛蟲">纖毛蟲</a>細胞內進行<a href="/wiki/%E8%84%AB%E6%B0%AE%E4%BD%9C%E7%94%A8" class="mw-redirect" title="脫氮作用">脫氮作用</a>的內共生細菌),以及著名的<a href="/wiki/%E8%9A%9C%E8%99%AB" title="蚜虫">蚜蟲</a><a href="/wiki/%E5%90%AB%E8%8F%8C%E7%BB%86%E8%83%9E" title="含菌细胞">含菌細胞</a>(估計還有更多案例,應該都足夠寫一篇Review了),「內共生胞器」與「內共生細菌」的界線估計會越來越模糊,隨著對更多「<a href="/wiki/%E5%8E%9F%E7%94%9F%E7%94%9F%E7%89%A9" title="原生生物">原生生物</a>」的研究進行,應該還會有更多案例發現。Nitroplast應該可以寫了,畢竟論文是已經被接受發表,印象中之前看過好幾次只是上<a href="/wiki/BioRxiv" title="BioRxiv">bioRxiv</a>英文維基就建條目的,比如尚未發表的物種<span class="ilh-all" data-orig-title="川普蚓螈" data-lang-code="en" data-lang-name="英语" data-foreign-title="Dermophis donaldtrumpi"><span class="ilh-page"><a href="/w/index.php?title=%E5%B7%9D%E6%99%AE%E8%9A%93%E8%9E%88&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="川普蚓螈(页面不存在)">川普蚓螈</a></span><span class="noprint ilh-comment">(<span class="ilh-lang">英语</span><span class="ilh-colon">:</span><span class="ilh-link"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermophis_donaldtrumpi" class="extiw" title="en:Dermophis donaldtrumpi"><span lang="en" dir="auto">Dermophis donaldtrumpi</span></a></span>)</span></span>,還有最近的這個<span class="ilh-all ilh-blue" data-orig-title="Obelisk (biology)" data-lang-code="en" data-lang-name="英语" data-foreign-title="Obelisk (biology)"><span class="ilh-page"><a href="/wiki/Obelisk_(biology)" class="mw-redirect" title="Obelisk (biology)">Obelisk (biology)</a></span></span>,一看居然都有八種語言了(個人覺得這東西有些描述搏版面的成分太高了<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r83791214"><mark class="skin-invert text-blocked inline-text-block-hd" title="你知道的太多了" style="background-color: white">不就是定序後發現了一類新的<a href="/wiki/%E7%92%B0%E7%8B%80RNA" title="環狀RNA">環狀RNA</a>....取這種名字</mark>)....</li></ul> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/%E5%A5%87%E7%95%B0%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D" title="奇異酵母">奇異酵母</a>我提名優良條目了,拜閣下激勵之賜才大幅擴充,否則條目大概幾年後都還維持這個<a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E5%A5%87%E7%95%B0%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D&amp;oldid=82209038">初級版本</a>。<a href="/wiki/%E6%A0%89%E6%B0%B4%E6%AF%8D" title="栉水母">栉水母</a>才是動物基群是不是現在已經實錘了?--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240414222500-Htmlzycq-20240414110200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年4月14日 (日) 22:25 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240414222500-Htmlzycq-20240414110200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240414222500","author":"\u9756\u5929\u5b50","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240414222500-Htmlzycq-20240414110200","replies":[],"displayName":"Wikimycota"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-靖天子-20240414222500-Htmlzycq-20240414110200"></span></dd></dl> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nitroplast" class="extiw" title="en:nitroplast"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Htmlzycq-20240416144600-奇異酵母上首页了"></span>英文</a>和<a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:%E7%A1%9D%E8%B4%A8%E4%BD%93&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:硝质体(页面不存在)">中文</a>都有人写了。 </p><p>栉水母和海绵之争好像快十年了,在下觉得,这样级别的争议,不看哪一方声量大,而是作为相关领域的小同行,更愿意以哪一种理论作为基础构建自己的理论。在下前几年看到的文章,比如某某基因家族在动物里的进化(如<a href="/wiki/%E6%A0%B8%E5%8F%97%E4%BD%93" title="核受体">核受体</a>之类在动物中广泛存在的基因家族)会提到以栉水母为基群构建基因进化树会怎么样,以海绵为基群会怎么样等等。现在不知道怎么样了。 </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2013" title="User:Htmlzycq/2013">Html</a><a href="/wiki/User:Htmlzycq/2014" title="User:Htmlzycq/2014">zycq</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Htmlzycq" title="User talk:Htmlzycq">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Htmlzycq-20240416144600-奇異酵母上首页了" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年4月16日 (二) 14:46 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240416144600-奇異酵母上首页了"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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href="/wiki/Template:%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C%E7%97%85" title="Template:真菌病">真菌病</a>}},都是十幾年沒人更新的模板,前者是一直沿用過時分類,後者是編排複雜難以閱讀,現在應該好多了。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240419043500-Htmlzycq-20240416144600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年4月19日 (五) 04:35 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240419043500-Htmlzycq-20240416144600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Htmlzycq-20240419094500-靖天子-20240419043500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240419094500","author":"Htmlzycq","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Htmlzycq-20240419094500-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240419043500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Htmlzycq-20240419094500-靖天子-20240419043500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240422164400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee-20240422164400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240422164400-\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee&quot;}--><h2 id="优良条目" data-mw-thread-id="h-优良条目-20240422164400"><span id=".E4.BC.98.E8.89.AF.E6.9D.A1.E7.9B.AE"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-优良条目-20240422164400"></span>优良条目<span data-mw-comment-end="h-优良条目-20240422164400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="编辑章节:优良条目"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240422164400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee-20240422164400","replies":["c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240422164400-\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240423153500-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-20240423011300","timestamp":"20240423153500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240422164400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee-20240422164400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240422164400-\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\u4f18\u826f\u6761\u76ee&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240422164400-优良条目"></span>靖天子,您好! </p><p>感谢您在<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%84%AA%E8%89%AF%E6%A2%9D%E7%9B%AE%E8%A9%95%E9%81%B8/%E6%8F%90%E5%90%8D%E5%8D%80#動物遷徙" title="Wikipedia:優良條目評選/提名區">Wikipedia:優良條目評選/提名區#動物遷徙</a>的意见。现在愿意从专业角度评审的编者已经很少了!我参与条目评审时也会提出意见,但一般也都是从文笔和逻辑方面入手,很少检查内容全面性。刚好您从内容方面做了评审,也提到了优良和典范的问题,所以我想请教您的看法: </p><p>英维把优良和典范分得很开:优良条目可以<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_the_Good_article_criteria_are_not#cite_note-1" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:What the Good article criteria are not">较典范条目大幅缩水</a>,亦<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment/A-Class_FAQ" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class FAQ">不需要专家把关</a>。所以没有专业人事参与的情况下,出现什都不足为奇<a href="/wiki/%F0%9F%98%82" title="😂">😂</a> 当然,英维是在先有典范的前提下,之后刻意设立了这个低标准的优良,所以他们本身对优良的期待也没多高就是了(类似我们对待DYK的心态?)。 </p><p>按他们的理论,典范条目在品质方面——特别是专业性上——远高于优良条目。我活跃的领域是流行文化领域,编者主要靠线上的非学术资料编写,所以专业性方面体现不明显。您认为在生物学科领域,他们的<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:FA-Class_vital_articles_in_Biology_and_health_sciences" class="extiw" title="en:Category:FA-Class vital articles in Biology and health sciences">典范</a>和<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:GA-Class_vital_articles_in_Biology_and_health_sciences" class="extiw" title="en:Category:GA-Class vital articles in Biology and health sciences">优良</a>有明显差距吗?(2007年入选的老条目就不谈了,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unreviewed_featured_articles/2020/2004%E2%80%932009" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Unreviewed featured articles/2020/2004–2009">他们自己也在检讨</a>您对近年入选的<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus" class="extiw" title="en:Octopus">en:Octopus</a>、<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilophosaurus" class="extiw" title="en:Dilophosaurus">en:Dilophosaurus</a>怎么看?) </p><p>关注过您和其他编者的交流,发现您把优良看得很重,经常和典范相提并论。考虑到本站的历史背景——一方面,本站因为典范条目太少,优良条目有很重要的导向意义;另一方面,「符合英维优良标准的条目」只要没有翻译问题,在本地通常畅通无阻——您认为在中维,典范和优良应该具有怎样的内涵? </p><p>祝好!--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:For_Each_element_In_group_Next&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:For Each element In group Next(页面不存在)">For Each element In group Next</a>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:For_Each_element_In_group_Next&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:For Each element In group Next(页面不存在)">留言</a>) <a 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style="display:none"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-靖天子-20240423011300-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240422164400"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:For_Each_element_In_group_Next&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:For Each element In group Next(页面不存在)">For Each element In group Next</a>:</span>您好!(舊帳號不用了?)</li></ul> <dl><dd>請教不敢,在下分享些自己的看法:確實中文裡優良典範條目的標準區分不明顯,在下自己的標準是用條目主題本身重要性區分的,典範條目應該要是個較為重要、較為基礎、涵蓋面向廣泛的主題,編者經大量閱讀、取捨材料後,組織寫出一篇內容豐富(3萬位元組以上)的條目;優良條目則可以是比較侷限、沒有那麼重要的主題,寫作方式可以是窮舉這個主題所有重要的文獻(本來可能就不多)再一一組織加入。例如我寫過的兩篇優良條目<a href="/wiki/%E5%A5%87%E7%95%B0%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D" title="奇異酵母">奇異酵母</a>與<a href="/wiki/%E8%86%A0%E8%97%BB%E8%8F%8C%E5%B1%AC" title="膠藻菌屬">膠藻菌屬</a>,都是已經「寫到極限」的條目,所有條目該有的內容都已經有了,再寫下去會是冗贅瑣碎內容或者離題,照理說是符合現有的典範條目標準,但這兩個主題因為沒有那麼重要、涉及的面向有限,不符合我心中對典範條目的期待,在下是認為<a href="/wiki/%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D%E8%8F%8C" class="mw-redirect" title="酵母菌">酵母菌</a>這個主題能夠撐起一篇典範條目,<a href="/wiki/%E5%A5%87%E7%95%B0%E9%85%B5%E6%AF%8D" title="奇異酵母">奇異酵母</a>則只夠撐起一篇優良;<a href="/wiki/%E8%97%8D%E7%B6%A0%E8%8F%8C" class="mw-redirect" title="藍綠菌">藍綠菌</a>可以撐起典範條目,<a href="/wiki/%E8%86%A0%E8%97%BB%E8%8F%8C%E5%B1%AC" title="膠藻菌屬">膠藻菌屬</a>則只夠撐起優良。我寫過的典範條目比如<a href="/wiki/%E7%99%BD%E8%89%B2%E5%BF%B5%E7%8F%A0%E8%8F%8C" title="白色念珠菌">白色念珠菌</a>,重要性遠大於前兩者,涉及分子、遺傳、醫學等多個層面,或者<a href="/wiki/%E7%9C%9F%E8%8F%8C" title="真菌">真菌</a>,分量更大的條目,涉及舉凡分類、生態、植病、醫學、工業、食品等諸多面向,這種主題才夠支撐典範條目需要的深度與廣度。對這種條目而言,正確寫作的方式就是直接將其寫成典範條目,以典範條目的架構組織編寫。</dd> <dd>不知道在哪看過有人講「維基百科的目標是所有條目都變成典範條目」,這點我是不同意的,在我看來只有一小部分條目有成為典範條目的「潛力」,有些條目只有成為優良的潛力,有些條目則充其量只能是普通條目,有些則只能寫成小作品了,這是受到條目主題的先天限制。中文目前有許多翻譯過來的典範條目,例如某電視劇的某一集、某條美國州道、某個巴士路線...這些條目即使已經寫到最佳狀態,在我看來還是只夠優良條目資格,撐不起典範條目。英文的優良條目確實很水,實際上以<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Migration" class="extiw" title="en:Animal Migration">en:Animal Migration</a>為例,這篇2021年入選的優良條目,評審時其實除主編外只有另一人提出一些潤飾、格式的意見,前後兩人同意就成為GA了。又以另一篇<a href="/wiki/2018%E5%B9%B4%E2%80%942020%E5%B9%B4%E5%89%9B%E6%9E%9C%E5%9F%BA%E4%BC%8D%E4%BC%8A%E6%B3%A2%E6%8B%89%E5%87%BA%E8%A1%80%E7%86%B1%E7%96%AB%E6%83%85" title="2018年—2020年剛果基伍伊波拉出血熱疫情">中文是我主編</a>、<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kivu_Ebola_epidemic" class="extiw" title="en:Kivu Ebola epidemic">英文版卻已經成為優良</a>的疫情條目為例,這篇中文版我自認沒有到GA標準,英文版寫得更爛(幾乎是以時間軸的方式編寫,某日多了幾個病例,某日發生了何時,而且有大量與疫情不直接相關的離題內容,例如介紹伊波拉病毒本身)卻成為GA了,看評審也是僅有另一名用戶作出一些格式、語句上的建議就得到GA資格。可以想像這樣的評審如果移到中文來會成為災難,差不多每一篇DYK等級的條目大概都能通過GA,只要有另一人過來做些「某一句話沒有來源、某句話有點翻譯腔、某段有錯字、形狀正確」等形式評審即可,畢竟DYK本來也就有這些要求。現行的六票制,至少除了主編者之外需要另外5人的背書,雖然水票橫行,但至少中文的評審有些「潛規則」存在,例如許多時候投票是給特定主編的信任票,如果前面有人已經指出問題、後面通常不會再有人投水票等,這雖然是個愚蠢的制度,但大概已經是中文社群目前能使用最佳的制度了。英文的典範條目印象中確實品質是優於優良,例如英文很多蕈類、疾病的典範條目,確實是內容豐富全面、文體正確(犬風船常常講害我也開始用這個詞)、幾乎無懈可擊,這應該是因為GA的標準太低了。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a 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data-mw-comment-end="c-靖天子-20240423011300-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240422164400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-For_Each_element_In_group_Next-20240423153500-靖天子-20240423011300"></span>感谢您的回复!<s style="font-size: small; color: grey;" title="开玩笑的">账号的事情属于正常操作,反正我之前也换过四五次了<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Doge.png/25px-Doge.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Doge.png/38px-Doge.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Doge.png/50px-Doge.png 2x" data-file-width="482" data-file-height="482"/></span></span></s></dd> <dd>您说的很对,撰写重要主题和一般主题可以说是两个思路。一般主题根据来源堆内容就OK;而且来源越多越开心,毕竟正愁找不到资料撑长度。而重要主题正好相反,要整理并消化浩瀚如烟的来源,确保条目既不长,也不短,更不偏,而且还得让人看懂,这就很考验编者的功力了。我选修地理学概论课时,教授一开始就说「这课很难讲,一方面话题太大,另一方面还得照顾你们非专业学生」,写重要条目大概就是这么一回事吧<a href="/wiki/%F0%9F%98%82" title="😂">😂</a> 当然这也不完全是长度问题,重要话题就算写2萬位元組,写好(根据最优质的来源,公平地提到各面向)的难度也不于一般条目。</dd> <dd>可能英维的GA不上首页(还不如DYK),或许他们就认为GA值这个价<a href="/wiki/%F0%9F%98%82" title="😂">😂</a> 我去年试着评了<a href="/wiki/Talk:%E6%A0%BC%E5%A5%88%E6%A3%AE%E7%91%99%E8%99%9F%E6%88%B0%E8%89%A6#優良條目評選" title="Talk:格奈森瑙號戰艦">不了解的领域</a>。虽然也是形式评审,但我也提出了三四条影响实际内容的想法。我是军事小白,其他编者应该不会比我再差了;那其他五位编辑加起来居然都没有一条建议,这就感觉很奇怪。如果不能确定编者是专家,我们一般是没人投票(包括支持和反对),最后条目自然落选;英维则比较主动,做个形式评审让条目通过。但如果编辑者本身是专家,那条目内容就没大问题,最后还真就缺一个<a href="/wiki/%E6%A0%A1%E5%AF%B9" class="mw-redirect" title="校对">形式评审</a>。不知道中维能不能把这点吸取过来。--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:For_Each_element_In_group_Next&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:For Each element In group Next(页面不存在)">For Each element In group Next</a>(<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:For_Each_element_In_group_Next&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:For Each element In group Next(页面不存在)">留言</a>) <a 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<p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Outlookxp-20240427102200-請注意Wikipedia:持续出没的破坏者/User:Qqqyyy捏造的影響"></span>你這筆誤用了<a class="external autonumber" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E7%AB%8B%E9%99%B6%E5%AE%9B&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=66630451">[2]</a>,見<a href="/wiki/Talk:%E6%8E%A2%E9%A1%8C#請注意Wikipedia:持續出沒的破壞者/User:Qqqyyy捏造「探題」的意思" title="Talk:探題">Talk:探題#請注意Wikipedia:持續出沒的破壞者/User:Qqqyyy捏造「探題」的意思</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Outlookxp" title="User:Outlookxp">Outlookxp</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Outlookxp" title="User talk:Outlookxp">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-Outlookxp-20240427102200-請注意Wikipedia:持续出没的破坏者/User:Qqqyyy捏造的影響" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年4月27日 (六) 10:22 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Outlookxp-20240427102200-請注意Wikipedia:持续出没的破坏者/User:Qqqyyy捏造的影響"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q528092">[3]</a>等使用。這種形式的破壞,以維基百科的運作模式確實難以抵抗,只是不知目的為何。--<a href="/wiki/User:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90" title="User:靖天子">Wikimycota</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">🧬</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E9%9D%96%E5%A4%A9%E5%AD%90#c-靖天子-20240427202800-Outlookxp-20240427102200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年4月27日 (六) 20:28 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-靖天子-20240427202800-Outlookxp-20240427102200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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