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href="#Quality_images"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Quality images</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Вероятное_нарушение_АП"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Вероятное нарушение АП</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_für_deine_Teilnahme"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Wiki Loves Earth 2024 - Deutschland - Vielen Dank für deine Teilnahme</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Свобода_панорамы_в_России_для_памятников"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Свобода панорамы в России для памятников</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Hello!"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Hello!</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Не_надо_придумывать_неизвестные_названия_да_ещё_без_года_постройки"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Не надо придумывать неизвестные названия да ещё без года постройки</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#File:Warsaw_07-13_img29_View_from_Palace_of_Culture_and_Science.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">File:Warsaw 07-13 img29 View from Palace of Culture and Science.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Quality_Image_Promotion"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Quality Image Promotion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_veröffentlicht"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Wiki Loves Earth 2024 - Deutschland - Ergebnisse veröffentlicht</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Categorization_of_churches_as_towers"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">Categorization of churches as towers</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#FP_Promotion"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">FP Promotion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Что_у_тебя_снова_за_проблемы_с_фото?"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">Что у тебя снова за проблемы с фото?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Tram_line_1_(Frankfurt_(Oder))"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Tram line 1 (Frankfurt (Oder))</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Категории_Новоржев"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Категории Новоржев</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Thanks"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Thanks</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Zum_meiner_Datei..."><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Zum meiner Datei...</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Please_see_this_complaint_Charlesjsharp_(talk)_18:10,_7_September_2024_(UTC)"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">Please see this complaint Charlesjsharp (<span>talk</span>) 18:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Опознание_персоналий"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Опознание персоналий</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Category:Kommunarka (Moscow Metro)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Notification_about_possible_deletion"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Notification about possible deletion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Vaduz_Castle"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">Vaduz Castle</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#Зоовыставки"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">Зоовыставки</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Флаг_ПФ"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Флаг ПФ</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#Бачуринская_и_Коммунарка"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">Бачуринская и Коммунарка</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Ahrensfelde"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">Ahrensfelde</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Памяти_участника"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">Памяти участника</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#О_метаданных"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">О метаданных</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#SDC_reverts"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">SDC reverts</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#Quality_Image_Promotion_2"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">Quality Image Promotion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#Gutspark_Groß_Glienicke"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">Gutspark Groß Glienicke</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#Фотография_с_показа_в_Берлине"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">Фотография с показа в Берлине</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#Crucifixes,_..._in_Wartburgkreis"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext">Crucifixes, ... in Wartburgkreis</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#Toilette"><span class="tocnumber">34</span> <span class="toctext">Toilette</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#Marburg_asv2022-02_img06_Reitgasse.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">35</span> <span class="toctext">Marburg asv2022-02 img06 Reitgasse.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">36</span> <span class="toctext">File:Hennickendorf Gartenstadt lub 2024-06-23.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#Belle_foto"><span class="tocnumber">37</span> <span class="toctext">Belle foto</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#Mal_so_als_Idee"><span class="tocnumber">38</span> <span class="toctext">Mal so als Idee</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#File:Oberbaumbrücke_3.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">39</span> <span class="toctext">File:Oberbaumbrücke 3.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-40"><a href="#Russian_Embassy"><span class="tocnumber">40</span> <span class="toctext">Russian Embassy</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-41"><a href="#Quality_Image_Promotion_3"><span class="tocnumber">41</span> <span class="toctext">Quality Image Promotion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-42"><a href="#Quality_Image_Promotion_4"><span class="tocnumber">42</span> <span class="toctext">Quality Image Promotion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-43"><a href="#Wikidata_Objekte_löschen"><span class="tocnumber">43</span> <span class="toctext">Wikidata Objekte löschen</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Chicken_Kyiv" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chicken_Kyiv-20240701180600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chicken_Kyiv-20240701180600"></span>Chicken Kyiv<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chicken_Kyiv-20240701180600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Chicken Kyiv"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tangopaso-20240701180600-Chicken_Kyiv"></span>Hello, Its a bad idea to redirect Chicken Kyiv to Chicken Kiev. Because Kyiv is the original name in ukrainian as Kiev is the russian name. And of course Kyiv is in Ukraine. <a href="/wiki/User:Tangopaso" title="User:Tangopaso">Tangopaso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tangopaso" title="User talk:Tangopaso"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Tangopaso-20240701180600-Chicken_Kyiv" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tangopaso-20240701180600-Chicken_Kyiv"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tangopaso-20240701180600-Chicken_Kyiv"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240701190900-Tangopaso-20240701180600"></span>I presume your request is not about the category redirect from "<a href="/wiki/Category:Chicken_Kyiv" title="Category:Chicken Kyiv">Chicken Kyiv</a>" to "<a href="/wiki/Category:Chicken_Kiev" title="Category:Chicken Kiev">Chicken Kiev</a>", but about the move itself. The reason is quite simple: "Chicken Kiev" is as such a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_noun" class="extiw" title="en:Proper noun">proper noun</a> and its name refers to the historical naming or translation of Kyiv/Kiev at time of first mention; it's pretty similar as for "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigsberger_Klopse" class="extiw" title="en:Königsberger Klopse">Königsberger Klopse</a> which never has been renamed to "Kaliningrader Klopse" despite the rename of the city; that means the move from "Chicken Kiev" to "Chicken Kyiv" a while ago, which was performed by a meanwhile indef-blocked account, was unconsensusal at the very least, and I don't see any preceding discussions either. In English WP, a rename of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Kiev" class="extiw" title="en:Chicken Kiev">Chicken Kiev</a> was already rejected, from what I see. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240701190900-Tangopaso-20240701180600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240701190900-Tangopaso-20240701180600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240701190900-Tangopaso-20240701180600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Quality_images" data-mw-thread-id="h-Quality_images-20240709135700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Quality_images-20240709135700"></span>Quality images<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Quality_images-20240709135700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Quality images"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MBH-20240709135700-Quality_images"></span>Я подумываю подать на это некоторые из своих фотографий. Как вы считаете, могут ли быть избраны следующие фото? </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/File:Church_of_the_Annunciation,_Krasnoyarsk.jpg" title="File:Church of the Annunciation, Krasnoyarsk.jpg">File:Church of the Annunciation, Krasnoyarsk.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Krasnoyarsk_Krai_government_building.jpg" title="File:Krasnoyarsk Krai government building.jpg">File:Krasnoyarsk Krai government building.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Russian_surface-to-air_missile_system_S-75_Dvina.JPG" title="File:Russian surface-to-air missile system S-75 Dvina.JPG">File:Russian surface-to-air missile system S-75 Dvina.JPG</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Center_of_space_communications_at_Zheleznogorsk,_Russia.JPG" title="File:Center of space communications at Zheleznogorsk, Russia.JPG">File:Center of space communications at Zheleznogorsk, Russia.JPG</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Krasnoyarsk_Regional_Philharmonic,_the_Grand_Concert_Hall.jpg" title="File:Krasnoyarsk Regional Philharmonic, the Grand Concert Hall.jpg">File:Krasnoyarsk Regional Philharmonic, the Grand Concert Hall.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Siberian_State_Aerospace_University,_Krasnoyarsk.jpg" title="File:Siberian State Aerospace University, Krasnoyarsk.jpg">File:Siberian State Aerospace University, Krasnoyarsk.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:ISS_Reshetnev_antenna_tower_3.JPG" title="File:ISS Reshetnev antenna tower 3.JPG">File:ISS Reshetnev antenna tower 3.JPG</a></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:MBH" title="User:MBH">MBH</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MBH-20240709135700-Quality_images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MBH-20240709135700-Quality_images"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MBH-20240709135700-Quality_images"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240709140800-MBH-20240709135700"></span>Для качественных архитектурных фото важно отсутствие перспективного искажения, а здесь оно есть, и немало. Вы можете попробовать номинировать третье изображение, хотя лично я не понимаю, зачем это нужно. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240709140800-MBH-20240709135700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240709140800-MBH-20240709135700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240709140800-MBH-20240709135700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MBH-20240709150100-A.Savin-20240709140800"></span>Но как может не быть перспективного искажения (если я правильно понимаю, что это такое) при фото с земли? Что - только с вертолёта снимать? И где перспективные искажения у второго, четвёртого и предпоследнего фото? <a href="/wiki/User:MBH" title="User:MBH">MBH</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MBH-20240709150100-A.Savin-20240709140800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MBH-20240709150100-A.Savin-20240709140800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MBH-20240709150100-A.Savin-20240709140800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240709155000-MBH-20240709150100"></span>Зависит от расстояния между вами и мотивом, от фокусного расстояния: с широкоугольным объективом больше возможности держать камеру прямо и не завалить вертикали. Исправить перспективу в фотошопе тоже можно, но когда здание едва влезает в кадр, как на номере два, этим вы с неизбежностью его обрежете и тогда ни о каком качественном изображении уж точно не может идти речь. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240709155000-MBH-20240709150100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240709155000-MBH-20240709150100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240709155000-MBH-20240709150100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Вероятное_нарушение_АП" data-mw-thread-id="h-Вероятное_нарушение_АП-20240711104000"><span id=".D0.92.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.BE.D1.8F.D1.82.D0.BD.D0.BE.D0.B5_.D0.BD.D0.B0.D1.80.D1.83.D1.88.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.B5_.D0.90.D0.9F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Вероятное_нарушение_АП-20240711104000"></span>Вероятное нарушение АП<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Вероятное_нарушение_АП-20240711104000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Вероятное нарушение АП"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Valmin-20240711104000-Вероятное_нарушение_АП"></span>Здравствуйте Александр. Имеются обоснованные подозрения на нарушения авторского права вот с этой фотографией <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:%D0%94%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%95.%D0%A2._-Ordamed_2024.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Длимбетов Е.Т. -Ordamed 2024.jpg (page does not exist)">File:Длимбетов Е.Т. -Ordamed 2024.jpg</a>. Программа поиска не нашла в инете оригинального изображения, только обрезанное - <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://online.zakon.kz/Document/?doc_id=32468195&pos=1;-16#pos=1;-16">[1]</a>, поэтому не уверен что можно действовать по обычной процедуре используя шаблон <a href="/wiki/Template:Copyvio" title="Template:Copyvio"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Copyvio}}</span></a>. Факт нарушения авторского права подтверждён также <a class="external text" href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:Valmin#%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81_%D0%BE%D1%82_Asel_ibo_(14:00,_10_%D0%B8%D1%8E%D0%BB%D1%8F_2024)">загрузившей фото участницей</a>. Оставляю на ваше усмотрение.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Valmin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Valmin (page does not exist)">Valmin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Valmin" title="User talk:Valmin"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Valmin-20240711104000-Вероятное_нарушение_АП" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Valmin-20240711104000-Вероятное_нарушение_АП"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Valmin-20240711104000-Вероятное_нарушение_АП"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_für_deine_Teilnahme" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_für_deine_Teilnahme-20240715133800"><span id="Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_f.C3.BCr_deine_Teilnahme"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_für_deine_Teilnahme-20240715133800"></span>Wiki Loves Earth 2024 - Deutschland - Vielen Dank für deine Teilnahme<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_für_deine_Teilnahme-20240715133800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Wiki Loves Earth 2024 - Deutschland - Vielen Dank für deine Teilnahme"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240715133800-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_für_deine_Teilnahme"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Bienenfresser_%C3%BCbergibt_Beute_im_FFH-Gebiet_Kaiserstuhl.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Bienenfresser_%C3%BCbergibt_Beute_im_FFH-Gebiet_Kaiserstuhl.jpg/220px-Bienenfresser_%C3%BCbergibt_Beute_im_FFH-Gebiet_Kaiserstuhl.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="147" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Bienenfresser_%C3%BCbergibt_Beute_im_FFH-Gebiet_Kaiserstuhl.jpg/330px-Bienenfresser_%C3%BCbergibt_Beute_im_FFH-Gebiet_Kaiserstuhl.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Bienenfresser_%C3%BCbergibt_Beute_im_FFH-Gebiet_Kaiserstuhl.jpg/440px-Bienenfresser_%C3%BCbergibt_Beute_im_FFH-Gebiet_Kaiserstuhl.jpg 2x" data-file-width="5400" data-file-height="3600"/></a><figcaption>Teilnehmerbild von WLE 2020</figcaption></figure> <p>Hallo A.Savin, </p><p>Wiki Loves Earth 2024 in Deutschland ist beendet. Du hast mit deinen hochgeladenen Fotos zum Gelingen des Wettbewerbs beigetragen. Vielen Dank für deine Fotos, sie sind ein wertvoller Beitrag, das Thema Naturschutz in der Wikipedia zu dokumentieren. Es wurden über 16.000 Fotos hochgeladen, du findest alle in der Kategorie <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_in_Germany" title="Category:Images from Wiki Loves Earth 2024 in Germany">Images from Wiki Loves Earth 2024 in Germany</a></i>. </p><p>Bis zum 19. Juni 2024 kannst du die hochgeladenen Fotos im <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://voting.wikilovesearth.de/prejury/">Vorjurytool</a> bewerten. Vom 2. bis zum 4. August 2024 kürt dann die Jury die Siegerbilder, vielleicht ist eins deiner Bilder dabei. </p><p>Wir möchten den Wettbewerb besser machen, aus diesem Grund haben wir eine kleine anonyme <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://lime.wikimedia.de/index.php/879731">Umfrage</a></b> vorbereitet. Wir freuen uns, wenn du daran teilnimmst. </p><p>Vielen Dank im Namen des Organisationsteams und bis spätestens nächstes Jahr, wenn Wiki Loves Earth 2025 stattfindet. <small><a href="/wiki/User:GPSLeo" title="User:GPSLeo">GPSLeo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GPSLeo" title="User talk:GPSLeo"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>)</small> --<a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240715133800-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_für_deine_Teilnahme" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:38, 15 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240715133800-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_für_deine_Teilnahme"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240715133800-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Vielen_Dank_für_deine_Teilnahme"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Свобода_панорамы_в_России_для_памятников" data-mw-thread-id="h-Свобода_панорамы_в_России_для_памятников-20240726165800"><span id=".D0.A1.D0.B2.D0.BE.D0.B1.D0.BE.D0.B4.D0.B0_.D0.BF.D0.B0.D0.BD.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.BC.D1.8B_.D0.B2_.D0.A0.D0.BE.D1.81.D1.81.D0.B8.D0.B8_.D0.B4.D0.BB.D1.8F_.D0.BF.D0.B0.D0.BC.D1.8F.D1.82.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.BA.D0.BE.D0.B2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Свобода_панорамы_в_России_для_памятников-20240726165800"></span>Свобода панорамы в России для памятников<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Свобода_панорамы_в_России_для_памятников-20240726165800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Свобода панорамы в России для памятников"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800-Свобода_панорамы_в_России_для_памятников"></span>Месяц назад Конституционный суд РФ <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doc.ksrf.ru/decision/KSRFDecision766084.pdf">вынес вердикт</a> по использованию изображений памятников <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://rg.ru/2024/06/26/reg-urfo/gonorar-za-foto.html">после иска одного из екатеринбургских издательств</a>. Нужно ли переделывать <a href="/wiki/Template:FoP-Russia" title="Template:FoP-Russia"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{FoP-Russia}}</span></a>? <a href="/wiki/User:MasterRus21thCentury" title="User:MasterRus21thCentury">MasterRus21thCentury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MasterRus21thCentury" title="User talk:MasterRus21thCentury"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800-Свобода_панорамы_в_России_для_памятников" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800-Свобода_панорамы_в_России_для_памятников"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800-Свобода_панорамы_в_России_для_памятников"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240726185900-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800"></span>У меня эта ссылка не открывается. Если желаете, можете вкратце изложить суть вердикта, но об изменении правил Викисклада в любом случае решать не мне. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240726185900-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240726185900-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240726185900-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Engelberthumperdink-20240805095400-A.Savin-20240726185900"></span>«при размещении в информационно-справочном материале о культурных, исторических и иных достопримечательностях территории (путеводителе) изображения произведения изобразительного искусства — скульптуры, которая расположена в открытом для свободного посещения месте на этой территории или видна из такого места, не требуется получения согласия автора или иного правообладателя скульптуры и выплаты ему вознаграждения, в том числе если соответствующий информационно-справочный материал распространяется в целях получения прибыли, а на данном изображении скульптура может рассматриваться как основной объект использования». У меня такой же вопрос по <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Plaques_in_Kazan" title="Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Plaques in Kazan">мемориальным доскам</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Engelberthumperdink" title="User:Engelberthumperdink">Engelberthumperdink</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Engelberthumperdink" title="User talk:Engelberthumperdink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Engelberthumperdink-20240805095400-A.Savin-20240726185900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Engelberthumperdink-20240805095400-A.Savin-20240726185900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Engelberthumperdink-20240805095400-A.Savin-20240726185900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240805103700-Engelberthumperdink-20240805095400"></span>Ну, для "информационно-справочного материала" нам скорее всего недстаточно, но ещё раз: это не мне решать. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240805103700-Engelberthumperdink-20240805095400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240805103700-Engelberthumperdink-20240805095400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240805103700-Engelberthumperdink-20240805095400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MBH-20240726212700-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800"></span>Спейд на <a href="/wiki/Commons:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Commons:Форум">commons:Форум</a> уже написал: по его мнению, это не свобода панорамы, которая нужна складу. <a href="/wiki/User:MBH" title="User:MBH">MBH</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MBH-20240726212700-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MBH-20240726212700-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MBH-20240726212700-MasterRus21thCentury-20240726165800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello!-20240728122800"><span id="Hello.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello!-20240728122800"></span>Hello!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello!-20240728122800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Hello!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nyilvoskt-20240728122800-Hello!"></span>Hello, sorry for direct messaging you, can you block this specific IP, they've vandalized quite a lot pages by putting unnecessary deletion tag in the last 30 minutes. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:140.213.126.5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:140.213.126.5 (page does not exist)">140.213.126.5</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:140.213.126.5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:140.213.126.5 (page does not exist)">talk</a><span style="white-space:nowrap"> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/140.213.126.5" title="Special:Contributions/140.213.126.5">contributions</a><span style="white-space:nowrap"> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span></span> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/move&user=140.213.126.5">Move log</a><span style="white-space:nowrap"> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span></span> <a class="external text" 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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Nyilvoskt-20240728122800-Hello!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nyilvoskt-20240728122800-Hello!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nyilvoskt-20240728122800-Hello!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Не_надо_придумывать_неизвестные_названия_да_ещё_без_года_постройки" data-mw-thread-id="h-Не_надо_придумывать_неизвестные_названия_д-20240811102500"><span id=".D0.9D.D0.B5_.D0.BD.D0.B0.D0.B4.D0.BE_.D0.BF.D1.80.D0.B8.D0.B4.D1.83.D0.BC.D1.8B.D0.B2.D0.B0.D1.82.D1.8C_.D0.BD.D0.B5.D0.B8.D0.B7.D0.B2.D0.B5.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BD.D1.8B.D0.B5_.D0.BD.D0.B0.D0.B7.D0.B2.D0.B0.D0.BD.D0.B8.D1.8F_.D0.B4.D0.B0_.D0.B5.D1.89.D1.91_.D0.B1.D0.B5.D0.B7_.D0.B3.D0.BE.D0.B4.D0.B0_.D0.BF.D0.BE.D1.81.D1.82.D1.80.D0.BE.D0.B9.D0.BA.D0.B8"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Не_надо_придумывать_неизвестные_названия_д-20240811102500"></span>Не надо придумывать неизвестные названия да ещё без года постройки<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Не_надо_придумывать_неизвестные_названия_д-20240811102500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Не надо придумывать неизвестные названия да ещё без года постройки"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240811102500-Не_надо_придумывать_неизвестные_названия_д"></span>Привет, in Vanasadam (неизвестное или мало кому известное выражение), вместо него надо употреблять современное название Ревеля, например, правильно in Reval, допустимо сейчас и in Tallinn, но Vanasadamas as in Vanasadam - буквально in Old Port, это довольно неприятный перебор от эстонского товарища Erko, начинающий юзер, и наверно не в курсе, что Wikimedia Commons задумана на английском языке. Он может держать для себя лично сайт Ships in Vanasadam с подкатегориями для всех судов, но не надо встраивать свою категорию в правильную категорию Category:Silja Europa (ship, 1993) in Tallinn, так как акватория порта очень мала, см. границу порта, а судно очень часто сфотографировано в Tallinn Bay, Port of Paljassaare, около Miiduranna на рейде. Определять точное местоположение судна он не будет, поэтому нет смысла затевать эту историю. Я снова убираю его ссылку в правильной категории в подкатегорию Silja Europa in Vanasadam. Парень даже не удосужился написать (ship, 1993). Это касается всех остальных судов. По-немецки это звучит как Шламперай (Schlamperei), так называлась немецким руководителем стройки работа советских 40 лет назад, типа тяп-ляп. Хорошего дня, thanks,</li></ul> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PjotrMahh1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PjotrMahh1 (page does not exist)">PjotrMahh1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PjotrMahh1" title="User talk:PjotrMahh1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-PjotrMahh1-20240811102500-Не_надо_придумывать_неизвестные_названия_д" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240811102500-Не_надо_придумывать_неизвестные_названия_д"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PjotrMahh1-20240811102500-Не_надо_придумывать_неизвестные_названия_д"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240811122800-PjotrMahh1-20240811102500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PjotrMahh1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PjotrMahh1 (page does not exist)">PjotrMahh1</a>: </span> Правильным действием с вашей стороны было бы, выставить эту категорию на быстрое удаление или заменить её на <a href="/wiki/Template:Category_redirect" title="Template:Category redirect"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Category redirect}}</span></a>. Каких-то параллельных по смыслу категорий специально для "некоего парня" мы на Викискладе не допускаем. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240811122800-PjotrMahh1-20240811102500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240811122800-PjotrMahh1-20240811102500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240811122800-PjotrMahh1-20240811102500"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240811130400-A.Savin-20240811122800"></span>Да, там проблема не только с этим парнем, который появился в 2017 и пропал тоже в 2017. Проблема возникла в 2014 году с категорией Category:Ships in Vanasadam, сделанной 2014-12-11 18:24:21‎ 2001:7d0:88c2:f401:2933:9a41:2adb:418. Я как-то обращался к нему Анонимус, ..., но он не желает или стесняется светиться. Я не стал сносить их личный контакт, (наверно для популяризации эстонского языка?). Туда же подключился и HenSti. А по идее сносить надо почти все категории, где используется слово Vanasadam не в качестве имени, а в качестве old port, то есть "суда в старом порту". По Фремантлю в Австралии иная проблема, там категория была в гавани Фреманля, хотя суда уже покинули гавань на фото, не знаю, приняли ли мою правку. Да, всё нормально: Category:Cruise ships in Fremantle, as PjotrMahh1 moved page Category:Cruise ships in Fremantle Harbour to Category:Cruise ships in Fremantle: port + area around. Очень много меняю категорий в Category:Cruise ships in Venice, те, в которых суда указаны без года постройки, например, Category:Aurora in Venice, это нарушение нормы оформления категории Category:Ships by name.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PjotrMahh1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PjotrMahh1 (page does not exist)">PjotrMahh1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PjotrMahh1" title="User talk:PjotrMahh1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-PjotrMahh1-20240811130400-A.Savin-20240811122800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240811130400-A.Savin-20240811122800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="qic-comments-title">Comments</span> <span lang="" dir="auto"><br/><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Support</bdi></b> Good quality. --<a href="/wiki/User:Plozessor" title="User:Plozessor">Plozessor</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Plozessor-20240812045200-Quality_Image_Promotion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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data-mw-thread-id="c-QICbot-20240814053000-Quality_Image_Promotion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QICbot-20240814053000-Quality_Image_Promotion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_veröffentlicht" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_veröffentlicht-20240815051500"><span id="Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_ver.C3.B6ffentlicht"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_veröffentlicht-20240815051500"></span>Wiki Loves Earth 2024 - Deutschland - Ergebnisse veröffentlicht<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_veröffentlicht-20240815051500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Wiki Loves Earth 2024 - Deutschland - Ergebnisse veröffentlicht"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240815051500-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_veröffentlicht"></span>Hallo A.Savin, </p><p>die Ergebnisse von Wiki Loves Earth 2024 in Deutschland sind nun veröffentlicht. Vorjury und Jury haben aus 12.000 Fotos im Wettbewerb die besten 50 Einreichungen in den Kategorien Landschaft und Detail sowie drei Fotos mit Sonderpreisen ausgezeichnet. Wenn deine Fotos unter den ersten Plätzen sind und du einen Gutscheinpreis erhältst, hast du bereits eine Nachricht erhalten. </p> <ul class="gallery mw-gallery-packed-hover center"> <li class="gallerycaption">Sieger WLE 2024 – Detail</li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 80.666666666667px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 78.666666666667px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Bl%C3%BChendes_Strand-Milchkraut_(Glaux_maritima)_am_Strand_von_Norderney_03.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Stephan Sprinz - Blühendes Strand-Milchkraut am Strand von Norderney"><img alt="Stephan Sprinz - Blühendes Strand-Milchkraut am Strand von Norderney" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Bl%C3%BChendes_Strand-Milchkraut_%28Glaux_maritima%29_am_Strand_von_Norderney_03.jpg/118px-Bl%C3%BChendes_Strand-Milchkraut_%28Glaux_maritima%29_am_Strand_von_Norderney_03.jpg" decoding="async" width="79" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Bl%C3%BChendes_Strand-Milchkraut_%28Glaux_maritima%29_am_Strand_von_Norderney_03.jpg/177px-Bl%C3%BChendes_Strand-Milchkraut_%28Glaux_maritima%29_am_Strand_von_Norderney_03.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Bl%C3%BChendes_Strand-Milchkraut_%28Glaux_maritima%29_am_Strand_von_Norderney_03.jpg/237px-Bl%C3%BChendes_Strand-Milchkraut_%28Glaux_maritima%29_am_Strand_von_Norderney_03.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3317" data-file-height="5044"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytextwrapper" style="width: 59px"><div class="gallerytext">Stephan Sprinz - Blühendes Strand-Milchkraut am Strand von Norderney</div> </div> </li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 82px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 80px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Sichelwespe,_Therion_circumflexum.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Peach-Boy11 - Eine parasitische Sichelwespe bei der Eiablage in eine Raupe"><img alt="Peach-Boy11 - Eine parasitische Sichelwespe bei der Eiablage in eine Raupe" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Sichelwespe%2C_Therion_circumflexum.jpg/120px-Sichelwespe%2C_Therion_circumflexum.jpg" decoding="async" width="80" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Sichelwespe%2C_Therion_circumflexum.jpg/180px-Sichelwespe%2C_Therion_circumflexum.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Sichelwespe%2C_Therion_circumflexum.jpg/240px-Sichelwespe%2C_Therion_circumflexum.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2793" data-file-height="4189"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytextwrapper" style="width: 60px"><div class="gallerytext">Peach-Boy11 - Eine parasitische Sichelwespe bei der Eiablage in eine Raupe</div> </div> </li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 89.333333333333px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 87.333333333333px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Kupfer-Rosenk%C3%A4fer_im_Naturschutzgebiet_D%C3%B6rscheider_Heide.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Oliver Knebel - Kupfer-Rosenkäfer im Naturschutzgebiet Dörscheider Heide"><img alt="Oliver Knebel - Kupfer-Rosenkäfer im Naturschutzgebiet Dörscheider Heide" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Kupfer-Rosenk%C3%A4fer_im_Naturschutzgebiet_D%C3%B6rscheider_Heide.jpg/131px-Kupfer-Rosenk%C3%A4fer_im_Naturschutzgebiet_D%C3%B6rscheider_Heide.jpg" decoding="async" width="88" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Kupfer-Rosenk%C3%A4fer_im_Naturschutzgebiet_D%C3%B6rscheider_Heide.jpg/196px-Kupfer-Rosenk%C3%A4fer_im_Naturschutzgebiet_D%C3%B6rscheider_Heide.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Kupfer-Rosenk%C3%A4fer_im_Naturschutzgebiet_D%C3%B6rscheider_Heide.jpg/262px-Kupfer-Rosenk%C3%A4fer_im_Naturschutzgebiet_D%C3%B6rscheider_Heide.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2640" data-file-height="3629"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytextwrapper" style="width: 68px"><div class="gallerytext">Oliver Knebel - Kupfer-Rosenkäfer im Naturschutzgebiet Dörscheider Heide</div> </div> </li> </ul> <ul class="gallery mw-gallery-packed-hover center"> <li class="gallerycaption">Sieger WLE 2024 – Landschaft</li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 182px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 180px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Sachsen_9671.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="T meltzer - Lilienstein im Elbsandsteingebirge"><img alt="T meltzer - Lilienstein im Elbsandsteingebirge" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Sachsen_9671.jpg/270px-Sachsen_9671.jpg" decoding="async" width="180" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Sachsen_9671.jpg/405px-Sachsen_9671.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Sachsen_9671.jpg/540px-Sachsen_9671.jpg 2x" data-file-width="7360" data-file-height="4912"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytextwrapper" style="width: 160px"><div class="gallerytext">T meltzer - Lilienstein im Elbsandsteingebirge</div> </div> </li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 182.66666666667px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 180.66666666667px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ahbach_(Ahr)_11.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Thomas Hummel - Ahbach (Ahr) im Naturschutzgebiet am Wasserfall Dreimühlen"><img alt="Thomas Hummel - Ahbach (Ahr) im Naturschutzgebiet am Wasserfall Dreimühlen" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Ahbach_%28Ahr%29_11.jpg/271px-Ahbach_%28Ahr%29_11.jpg" decoding="async" width="181" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Ahbach_%28Ahr%29_11.jpg/406px-Ahbach_%28Ahr%29_11.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Ahbach_%28Ahr%29_11.jpg/541px-Ahbach_%28Ahr%29_11.jpg 2x" data-file-width="6048" data-file-height="4024"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytextwrapper" style="width: 161px"><div class="gallerytext">Thomas Hummel - Ahbach (Ahr) im Naturschutzgebiet am Wasserfall Dreimühlen</div> </div> </li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 173.33333333333px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 171.33333333333px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:T%C3%BCbingen_-_Hirschau_-_Spitzberg_-_S%C3%BCdhang_-_Blumbergweg_und_Trockenmauern_(3).jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Roman Eisele - Trockenmauern der ehemaligen Weinberge im Naturschutzgebiet Hirschauer Berg"><img alt="Roman Eisele - Trockenmauern der ehemaligen Weinberge im Naturschutzgebiet Hirschauer Berg" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/T%C3%BCbingen_-_Hirschau_-_Spitzberg_-_S%C3%BCdhang_-_Blumbergweg_und_Trockenmauern_%283%29.jpg/257px-T%C3%BCbingen_-_Hirschau_-_Spitzberg_-_S%C3%BCdhang_-_Blumbergweg_und_Trockenmauern_%283%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="172" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/T%C3%BCbingen_-_Hirschau_-_Spitzberg_-_S%C3%BCdhang_-_Blumbergweg_und_Trockenmauern_%283%29.jpg/386px-T%C3%BCbingen_-_Hirschau_-_Spitzberg_-_S%C3%BCdhang_-_Blumbergweg_und_Trockenmauern_%283%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/T%C3%BCbingen_-_Hirschau_-_Spitzberg_-_S%C3%BCdhang_-_Blumbergweg_und_Trockenmauern_%283%29.jpg/514px-T%C3%BCbingen_-_Hirschau_-_Spitzberg_-_S%C3%BCdhang_-_Blumbergweg_und_Trockenmauern_%283%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="9047" data-file-height="6336"/></a></span></div> <div class="gallerytextwrapper" style="width: 152px"><div class="gallerytext">Roman Eisele - Trockenmauern der ehemaligen Weinberge im Naturschutzgebiet Hirschauer Berg</div> </div> </li> </ul> <p><b><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024/Deutschland/Preistr%C3%A4ger" class="extiw" title="de:Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Earth 2024/Deutschland/Preisträger">Hier findest du alle ausgezeichneten Fotos.</a></b> </p><p>Wir haben dir bereits den <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://lime.wikimedia.de/index.php/879731">Link zu unserer Umfrage</a> geschickt. Wenn du sie noch nicht ausgefüllt hast, würden wir uns freuen, wenn du noch bis zum Sonntag den 18. August teilnimmst. </p><p>Falls du nicht bis 2025 auf den nächsten Fotowettbewerb warten willst, kannst du im September bei <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2024/Deutschland" class="extiw" title="de:Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Monuments 2024/Deutschland">Wiki Loves Monuments in Deutschland</a> oder einem anderen der <a href="/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2024/Participating_countries" title="Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2024/Participating countries">teilnehmenden Länder</a> deine Fotos zum Thema Kulturerbe hochladen. </p><p>Noch einmal vielen Dank im Namen des Organisationsteams und der Jury <a href="/wiki/User:GPSLeo" title="User:GPSLeo">GPSLeo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GPSLeo" title="User talk:GPSLeo">talk</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240815051500-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_veröffentlicht" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240815051500-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_veröffentlicht"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240815051500-Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024_-_Deutschland_-_Ergebnisse_veröffentlicht"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Categorization_of_churches_as_towers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Categorization_of_churches_as_towers-20240816201900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Categorization_of_churches_as_towers-20240816201900"></span>Categorization of churches as towers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Categorization_of_churches_as_towers-20240816201900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Categorization of churches as towers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lieven_Smits-20240816201900-Categorization_of_churches_as_towers"></span>Hello A., why are you systematically moving aerial photographs of churches to the category of church towers? Surely if the picture is about the whole church, such a category is misleading? <a href="/wiki/User:Lieven_Smits" title="User:Lieven Smits">Lieven Smits</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lieven_Smits" title="User talk:Lieven Smits"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Lieven_Smits-20240816201900-Categorization_of_churches_as_towers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lieven_Smits-20240816201900-Categorization_of_churches_as_towers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lieven_Smits-20240816201900-Categorization_of_churches_as_towers"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240816202300-Lieven_Smits-20240816201900"></span>Sincerely I don't get your problem and why should a <a href="/wiki/Category:Aerial_photographs_of_church_towers" title="Category:Aerial photographs of church towers">Category:Aerial photographs of church towers</a> be misleading. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240816202300-Lieven_Smits-20240816201900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240816202300-Lieven_Smits-20240816201900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240816202300-Lieven_Smits-20240816201900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lieven_Smits-20240820151900-A.Savin-20240816202300"></span>The name of the category is misleading for the following reason. Every church, apart from some ruins or rare architectural anomalies, has at least one tower. A normal aerial photograph of a church can hardly avoid including that tower. If the mere appearance of the tower in the photograph is taken as sufficient reason to categorize the photograph as "Aerial photographs of church towers", then the parent category "Aerial photographs of churches" loses its meaning. Since this is obvious to anyone reading the names of the categories, they would suppose that the child category is there specifically for high-magnification telephotos that focus on the tower only, without showing the entire rest of the church or showing it less prominently.</dd> <dd>Apart from this confusion, it creates an unnecessary level of clicks.</dd> <dd>In your opinion, what difference currently justifies that some churches are in the parent category, while some others are in the more detailed child category? <a href="/wiki/User:Lieven_Smits" title="User:Lieven Smits">Lieven Smits</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lieven_Smits" title="User talk:Lieven Smits"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Lieven_Smits-20240820151900-A.Savin-20240816202300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lieven_Smits-20240820151900-A.Savin-20240816202300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lieven_Smits-20240820151900-A.Savin-20240816202300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240820235700-Lieven_Smits-20240820151900"></span>I just think, if an image is for example in the category "Aerial photographs of churches in Germany" and shows a church tower too, then it is of course okay to add it to both categories: "Aerial photographs of churches in Germany", "Aerial photographs of church towers". 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Ты видел, что круизные уже категоризуются по городам? Я тоже пару лет назад был против этого, ты новичок в этой схеме? А про timeline тоже не слышал? Верни всё как было, я от тебя уже начинаю уставать,</li></ul> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PjotrMahh1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PjotrMahh1 (page does not exist)">PjotrMahh1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PjotrMahh1" title="User talk:PjotrMahh1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400-Что_у_тебя_снова_за_проблемы_с_фото?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 23 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400-Что_у_тебя_снова_за_проблемы_с_фото?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400-Что_у_тебя_снова_за_проблемы_с_фото?"></span> </p> <ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240823142600-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400"></span>Если тебе нужно своё фото в главной категории судна, то сделай дубликат, то есть дополнительную категорию, я просто не знал, что тебе это нужно, чтобы на фото все сразу попадали,--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PjotrMahh1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PjotrMahh1 (page does not exist)">PjotrMahh1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PjotrMahh1" title="User talk:PjotrMahh1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-PjotrMahh1-20240823142600-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240823142600-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PjotrMahh1-20240823142600-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240823144000-PjotrMahh1-20240823142600"></span>Я не понял, а зачем ты дериватив загнал в Category:Amera (ship, 1988) in Saint Petersburg, это не оригинальное фото, а производный дубликат. Зачем он тут. Я не против, что в описании просто год 2019 стоит, но это важно в правильном выстраивании фото судна на странице по времени, timeline, а не по алфавиту придуманного названия, некоторые начинают с цифр, чтобы их фото попали первыми на страницу. Но это и глупо и неправильно. Кроме того, надо полностью восстановить года и дни посещения судном Санкт-Петербурга в стиле <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://fleetphoto.ru/vessel/801/">https://fleetphoto.ru/vessel/801/</a>, там фото <i>Amera</i> только два, но ставят правильно по timeline,--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PjotrMahh1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PjotrMahh1 (page does not exist)">PjotrMahh1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PjotrMahh1" title="User talk:PjotrMahh1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-PjotrMahh1-20240823144000-PjotrMahh1-20240823142600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:40, 23 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240823144000-PjotrMahh1-20240823142600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PjotrMahh1-20240823144000-PjotrMahh1-20240823142600"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240824010400-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400"></span>Постарайтесь сформулировать вопрос по новой, но только без хамства и так, чтобы было вообще понятно о чём собственно речь. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240824010400-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240824010400-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240824010400-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240825045200-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400"></span>Wikimedia по усмотрению расставляет суда на странице по алфавиту, ряд фотографов для фото уже используют timeline по номерам 01, 02, 03, или более сложные но краткие даты, однако лучше использовать полные даты с секундами, так как при развороте судна в одну минуту делается до десятка снимков, чтобы поймать точный нос, корму, левый или правый борт. Если оставить размещение фото по алфавиту, то посещение порта судном в зависимости от даты и года, а также поворот судна будут отражаться на странице нелогично или беспорядочно. Кроме того многие юзеры не указывают год и дату, часто и местоположение, в названии файла, в описании, приходится открывать файл, искать данные в описании, но и там обычно ничего нет. То есть юзеры просто закидывают страницу фотографиями, а что там изображено, знают только они сами. Далее, если файл подвергся обрезанию, то лучше оставить его на главной странице, очевидно делалось для показа в Википедии, его будет труднее смотреть в городской разбивке, да и зачем там нужен дубликат, если посещение судном города уже зафиксировано. То есть заход отменён не был, как почти весь круизный туризм в пандемию и ряд морей (Балтийское, Чёрное, Средиземное, Красное в ходе войны), а также ограничение захода в порты некоторых стран. Хотелось бы добавить, что некоторые юзеры из фото, в том числе моих, начали изготовлять фэйки, например, Angelgreat сводил в одно фото два судна, которые заходили в Таллин в разные дни: <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Black_Watch,_Lulu_and_Boudicca_in_Tallinn_Bay_(cropped).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Black_Watch%2C_Lulu_and_Boudicca_in_Tallinn_Bay_%28cropped%29.jpg/80px-Black_Watch%2C_Lulu_and_Boudicca_in_Tallinn_Bay_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="80" height="45" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Black_Watch%2C_Lulu_and_Boudicca_in_Tallinn_Bay_%28cropped%29.jpg/120px-Black_Watch%2C_Lulu_and_Boudicca_in_Tallinn_Bay_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Black_Watch%2C_Lulu_and_Boudicca_in_Tallinn_Bay_%28cropped%29.jpg/160px-Black_Watch%2C_Lulu_and_Boudicca_in_Tallinn_Bay_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1124"/></a></span>. Также он часто менял на борту название судна, чтобы получить якобы фото судно, которое оно имело в 70-е годы и под флагом, например, Норвегии, <i>Royal Viking Sky</i> или <i>Royal Viking ...</i>, название не помню. То есть удаляет современное название и пишет первоначальное, причём фото снято уже в 2000-е годы. Зачем? И такой фэйк переносится в Википедию. И это уже не остановить, идёт полная хаотизация. Просьба не отвечать на эти строки, так как я избегаю любого общения с юзерами (пользователями) и не хочу возвращать их действия через undo, после чего выскакивает красный колокол на странице talk. А общаться я не хочу. Лучше вручную внести изменения в категорию или в описание фото, thanks --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PjotrMahh1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PjotrMahh1 (page does not exist)">PjotrMahh1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PjotrMahh1" title="User talk:PjotrMahh1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-PjotrMahh1-20240825045200-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PjotrMahh1-20240825045200-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PjotrMahh1-20240825045200-PjotrMahh1-20240823142400"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240825120200-PjotrMahh1-20240825045200"></span>Категории существуют для того, чтобы собирать в них все медиафайлы, подходящие под это описание. Возможно, вы путаете категории с галереями, где вы действительно можете выбирать изображения произвольно. Так что заведомо нет ничего неверного во включении <a href="/wiki/File:Spb_Vasilievsky_Island_Neva_at_SchmidtEmb_asv2019-09_crop.jpg" title="File:Spb Vasilievsky Island Neva at SchmidtEmb asv2019-09 crop.jpg">вот этой фотографии</a> в <a href="/wiki/Category:Amera_(ship,_1988)_in_Saint_Petersburg" title="Category:Amera (ship, 1988) in Saint Petersburg">вот эту категорию</a>, раз уж вы зачем-то решили её (категорию) создать. Ну а если вы не хотите (ни с кем?) общаться, то честно говоря я не совсем понимаю, что вы вообще ищете в проектах Фонда Викимедиа и как себе представляете какую-либо работу в них. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240825120200-PjotrMahh1-20240825045200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240825120200-PjotrMahh1-20240825045200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240825120200-PjotrMahh1-20240825045200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tram_line_1_(Frankfurt_(Oder))" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tram_line_1_(Frankfurt_(Oder))-20240903130200"><span id="Tram_line_1_.28Frankfurt_.28Oder.29.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tram_line_1_(Frankfurt_(Oder))-20240903130200"></span>Tram line 1 (Frankfurt (Oder))<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tram_line_1_(Frankfurt_(Oder))-20240903130200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Tram line 1 (Frankfurt (Oder))"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clic-20240903130200-Tram_line_1_(Frankfurt_(Oder))"></span>Hi, why did you revert the last modification? This line is a tram line in Germany, so it should be categorized there. <a href="/wiki/User:Clic" title="User:Clic">Clic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clic" title="User talk:Clic"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Clic-20240903130200-Tram_line_1_(Frankfurt_(Oder))" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clic-20240903130200-Tram_line_1_(Frankfurt_(Oder))"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clic-20240903130200-Tram_line_1_(Frankfurt_(Oder))"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240903214400-Clic-20240903130200"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Commons:OVERCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:OVERCAT">COM:OVERCAT</a>. It's already categorized as route 1 in Germany, so no further categorization as roiute 1 please. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240903214400-Clic-20240903130200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240903214400-Clic-20240903130200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240903214400-Clic-20240903130200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Категории_Новоржев" data-mw-thread-id="h-Категории_Новоржев-20240904112100"><span id=".D0.9A.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.B5.D0.B3.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B8.D0.B8_.D0.9D.D0.BE.D0.B2.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B6.D0.B5.D0.B2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Категории_Новоржев-20240904112100"></span>Категории Новоржев<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Категории_Новоржев-20240904112100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Категории Новоржев"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wagon-20240904112100-Категории_Новоржев"></span>Здравствуйте. Категория Buildings in Novorzhev не входит в категорию Germana Street (Novorzhev), поэтому для моста она не будет отображаться. <a href="/wiki/User:Wagon" title="User:Wagon">Wagon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wagon" title="User talk:Wagon"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Wagon-20240904112100-Категории_Новоржев" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wagon-20240904112100-Категории_Новоржев"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wagon-20240904112100-Категории_Новоржев"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240904171600-Wagon-20240904112100"></span>Вы желаете, чтобы я пояснил почему мосты не считаются за здания, или чем конкретно я могу быть полезен? --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240904171600-Wagon-20240904112100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240904171600-Wagon-20240904112100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240904171600-Wagon-20240904112100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks-20240905091600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks-20240905091600"></span>Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks-20240905091600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Thanks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240905091600-Thanks"></span>Thanks for <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AOrijentolog&diff=919644396&oldid=857069145">opening my eyes</a>. Spending months for reading hundreds of scholarly works, in purpose of using thousands of references on Wikidata for towers and other buildings, wasting thousands of hours to organize cats here on Commons... and all can be destroyed by a single click. Goodbye and never again. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog" title="User talk:Orijentolog"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Orijentolog-20240905091600-Thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:16, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240905091600-Thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240905091600-Thanks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240905093200-Orijentolog-20240905091600"></span>As you wish. But I would use Common sense instead and ask to myself, whether towers really are buildings, and whether the ratio of height to width (or whatever it's named as in scholarly works) really is a shape. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240905093200-Orijentolog-20240905091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240905093200-Orijentolog-20240905091600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240905093200-Orijentolog-20240905091600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240905221800-A.Savin-20240905093200"></span>Please take a look around: "a tall narrow building or part of a building" (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/tower_1">Oxford Dictionary</a>), "a very tall, narrow building, or part of a building" (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/learner-english/tower">Cambridge Dictionary</a>), "a tall, narrow building or structure" (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/tower">Britannica Dictionary</a>), "a tower is a tall, narrow building" (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/tower">Collins Dictionary</a>), etc. The definitions from these dictionaries are based on the traditional interpretation of towers, because they were built for millennia from elementary materials (brick, stone), so they almost always represent buildings i.e. structures with walls and a roof. Truss towers and similar came relatively recently and are just structures, not buildings. The English Wikipedia is not a good guide as it illustrates the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/tower" class="extiw" title="en:tower">tower</a> article with modern examples of structures.</dd> <dd>Of course, I don't claim all towers are buildings, nor am I asking that absolutely all types of towers be categorized under buildings, which is obviously wrong. We are a much more technically detailed project. What I am saying is that it is not wrong to categorize the general categories of towers under buildings, along with structures. We don't have categories named like <i>Tower buildings</i>. If you open <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Towers_in_Iran_by_function" title="Category:Towers in Iran by function">Towers in Iran by function</a></i> you'll notice that virtually all individual towers are indeed buildings. Non-building towers like electricity pylons and wind turbines have no individual example. When I said you were "destroying" the categorization tree, I meant this: there are 81 categories of towers by city and 31 categories by province, all categorized under buildings (Iran doesn't have <i>structures by city/province</i>). Now, after your subjective insisting on removal, everything has lost its meaning. Likewise in other countries. Italy, Germany and Iran were architecturally the best categorized countries, me and the others invested months in this work, and now you claim that these three should follow messy countries (your comment: <i>please see other "Towers by country" categories</i>). These three countries also have hundreds of <i>architecture by city</i> categories, while <a href="/wiki/Category:Architecture_by_city_by_country" title="Category:Architecture by city by country">the majority of countries have none</a>. And what now, the former should follow the latter flawed ones? As for shape, even Wikipedias keep towers under <i>buildings and structures by shape</i>, and <a href="/wiki/Category:Buildings_by_shape" title="Category:Buildings by shape">here "shape" refers to the widest range of meanings</a>: planar, vertical, 2D or 3D forms, even buildings with flat roofs‎.</dd> <dd>Therefore, in the end, I will politely ask you to reconsider your behavior and edits like today, which make more than a hundred subcategories lose their sense. I don't see a future here if something that has been painstakingly organized for a long time is going to be destroyed with one click or overnight. If you asked me why I categorized like that, I would have answered you all this. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog" title="User talk:Orijentolog"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Orijentolog-20240905221800-A.Savin-20240905093200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240905221800-A.Savin-20240905093200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240905221800-A.Savin-20240905093200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240905232000-Orijentolog-20240905221800"></span>Well I'm not the one who started the discussion, so not sure why I'm the one who should reconsider my behaviour (and not sure what's wrong about it after all). However I think that a dictionary is less of a credible source of information for us, because we are basically a sister project of Wikipedia, which is not a dictionary, and a scientific explanation of a subject may of course be more complex rather than what is in a dictionary for a very basic level of understanding.</dd> <dd>Your behaviour is wrong anyway, as at least two people obviously disagree with your approach and you had continued editwarring.</dd> <dd>Regarding shapes, just take a simple example: <a href="/wiki/Category:Leuchtturm_Helgoland_(1941/1965)" title="Category:Leuchtturm Helgoland (1941/1965)">this one</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Wasserturm_Finsterwalde" title="Category:Wasserturm Finsterwalde">this one</a> are both towers, but obviously different shapes. I hope this is enough to explain that at least there's something wrong with your approach. Thanks --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240905232000-Orijentolog-20240905221800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240905232000-Orijentolog-20240905221800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240905232000-Orijentolog-20240905221800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240906101200-A.Savin-20240905232000"></span>You didn't get my point. I'm saying that all subcategories of <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Towers_in_Iran" title="Category:Towers in Iran">Towers in Iran</a></i>, some 122 of them (plus metacats), treat towers as buildings. By shape. There is no logical and practical alternative to that. Now, when your edit has removed the relevant parent category from the primary category, the whole categorization tree is messed up. Categorization should be consistent for primary and subcategories, but now it is not. I reverted to maintain consistency. A discussion like ours here is fine and any objections or questions are fine, but making radical changes before the discussion is not. That's my point.</dd> <dd>The same thing is with Germany and other countries. I spent weeks for organizing historical towers in those major countries, like <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Towers_in_Germany_by_style" title="Category:Towers in Germany by style">Towers in Germany</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Towers_in_France_by_style" title="Category:Towers in France by style">France</a></i> and <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Towers_in_Spain_by_style" title="Category:Towers in Spain by style">Spain by style</a></i>, treating everything as buildings, and yesterday you went around removing <i>buildings by shape</i> from their primary category. Everything has lost its meaning. You may not be aware of the damage you're doing with such changes, but I am, and that's why I'm seriously considering abandoning the project forever. The same as others, like <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ADenghi%C3%B9Comm&diff=919927271&oldid=908750764">DenghiùComm</a>.</dd> <dd>Wikipedia itself treats towers as <i>buildings and structures by shape</i>, there is no separation on buildings and structures like here, so I don't understand what you mean. It does not explain that historical towers are mostly buildings (those with walls and roofs), nor does it provide an overview of historical towers in major European countries or Iran. Commons is actually a much more technically detailed project than Wikipedia.</dd> <dd>See e.g. <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2024/09/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:WikiProject Iran by city">this discussion</a>, users agreed that changes are needed and this will soon be done comprehensively, across hundreds of categories, and consistency will exist. So I'm fine with it. If I were to force something against the consensus, with "It's mine", "I opened it" or "It's our project", then my behavior would be problematic. Worth of block. Before the consensus was reached, I was also reverting edits, only for keeping consistency. Because 30 cases among 200 should not be ruined. Once we reached the solution, all 200 will be changed and that's fine. So, it's only keeping consistency, not forcing subjective ideas.</dd> <dd>Regarding shapes, you didn't quite understand me. I wrote that shapes here includes "planar, vertical, 2D or 3D forms, even roofs". In terms of vertical shape, the two examples you give are towers, and they differ in planar shape. Please take a look at <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Shebeli_Tower" title="Category:Shebeli Tower">Shebeli Tower</a></i>: it has three different categories (<i><a href="/wiki/Category:Mausoleum_towers_in_Iran" title="Category:Mausoleum towers in Iran">mausoleum towers</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Domed_mausoleums_in_Iran" title="Category:Domed mausoleums in Iran">domed mausoleums</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Octagonal_mausoleums_in_Iran" title="Category:Octagonal mausoleums in Iran">octagonal mausoleums</a></i>) that fall under <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Mausoleums_in_Iran_by_shape" title="Category:Mausoleums in Iran by shape">Mausoleums in Iran by shape</a></i>. The first refers to the vertical shape, the second to the top, and the third to the floor plan. In the future, <i>buildings by shape</i> can be more precisely divided into <i>buildings by planar shape</i>, <i>buildings by vertical shape</i>, <i>buildings by roof shape</i>, <i>buildings by 3D form</i>, etc.</dd> <dd>Finally, my referring to "scholarly works" is not related to the definitions of towers in general, but to the arrangement of individual examples. For that <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Shebeli_Tower" title="Category:Shebeli Tower">Shebeli Tower</a></i>, it took me at least <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7492258&diff=2214992595&oldid=2214939202">two hours to find strong sources, and reference the technical and chronological details on Wikidata</a>. Once that's done, my editing of the Commons categories follows. The same was done with thousands of historical buildings. I don't know anyone else here who takes such a serious approach. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog" title="User talk:Orijentolog"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Orijentolog-20240906101200-A.Savin-20240905232000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:12, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240906101200-A.Savin-20240905232000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240906101200-A.Savin-20240905232000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240906102400-Orijentolog-20240906101200"></span>I don't understand whether you're actually retired or not.</dd> <dd>Also, it's not my job to set a rule on tower-related categories. This should be done according to a consensus, which I fail to see at the moment.</dd> <dd>Do I have to say something else here? Although you allegedly have retired, you are continuing pushing these "buildings by shape" categories. As I just see, there are already categories like <a href="/wiki/Category:Towers_in_Spain_by_shape" title="Category:Towers in Spain by shape">Category:Towers in Spain by shape</a>. Created by you! And now you are trying to push both categories in editwar modus into "Buildings in Spain by shape". "Towers in Spain" (and same for other countries) AND "Towers in Spain by shape". Never heard of <a href="/wiki/Commons:OVERCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:OVERCAT">COM:OVERCAT</a>? Do I still have to explain why overcat is evil? I'm out here. Discuss elsewhere, or do retire. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240906102400-Orijentolog-20240906101200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:24, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240906102400-Orijentolog-20240906101200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240906102400-Orijentolog-20240906101200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240906111700-A.Savin-20240906102400"></span>I'm trying not to get retired, but your behavior is forcing me to do so. Dear A.Savin, can you keep a rational discussion and act politely? Can you read the text above? I was reverting an IP edit, again to maintain consistency. I don't plan to revert yours, until we agree.</dd> <dd>Looking superficially, it seems like <i>Towers in Spain by shape</i> falls under <i>Buildings in Spain by shape by shape</i> (twice <i>shape</i>), so you found it as strange and incorrect. BUT, buildings with particular vertical shape (like tower) have other shapes, so there's actually no <a href="/wiki/Commons:OVERCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:OVERCAT">COM:OVERCAT</a>. There are similar examples: <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Windcatchers" title="Category:Windcatchers">Windcatchers</a></i> fall under <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Towers_by_function" title="Category:Towers by function">Towers by function</a></i>, but they are further subcategorized to <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Windcatchers_by_building_function" title="Category:Windcatchers by building function">Windcatchers by building function</a></i>. Superficially it would imply something like <i>Buildings by building function by function</i> (twice <i>function</i>). Also, <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Industry_buildings" title="Category:Industry buildings">Industry buildings</a></i> fall under <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Buildings_by_function" title="Category:Buildings by function">Buildings by function</a></i>, and again are further subcategorized to <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Industry_buildings_by_function" title="Category:Industry buildings by function">Industry buildings by function</a></i>, implying <i>Buildings by function by function</i> (twice <i>function</i>). These cats are not wrong, they're fine. However, having meta categories with two identical criteria is not practical. If there was a more precise division of <i>buildings by shape</i> into planar, vertical and other shapes, as I discussed above, <i>Towers in Spain</i> would fall under <i>Buildings in Spain by vertical shape</i>, and <i>Towers in Spain by shape</i> would imply having something like <i>Buildings in Spain by vertical shape by shape</i>, similar to the case of windcatchers. Don't let that confuse you.</dd> <dd>Once again, please read my arguments carefully and answer me after several days, when you be calm. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog" title="User talk:Orijentolog"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Orijentolog-20240906111700-A.Savin-20240906102400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240906111700-A.Savin-20240906102400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240906111700-A.Savin-20240906102400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240906183200-Orijentolog-20240906111700"></span>Not to hijack the discussion but it seems like your way to far down in the weeds with this whole thing. There's absolutely zero reason to be that pedantic about categorizing images. Otherwise your seriously just missing the forest for the trees here. Things like <a href="/wiki/Commons:OVERCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:OVERCAT">COM:OVERCAT</a> exist for a reason and that's clearly what your doing. It doesn't magically stop being overcategorizing just because you spent 2 hours researching towers and can write a 15 page research paper on why their shapes either. Regardless, from what I've seen so far you've been reverted by 3 admins, one of whom you got in an edit war with. Plus you edit wared me multiple times. You should really just be happy you haven't been blocked yet when your behavior is clearly inappropriate Honestly, this is an extremely minor that absolutely no difference what-so-ever in the grand scheme of things. It's certainly not worth editing waring people over. I know it sucks having something changed after spending a lot of time and research on it, but that's just the cost of contributing to a collaborative project. If you can't handle other people editing or changing your work go create a personal blog or something. Otherwise just drop the stick and follow the guidelines next time. Things like <a href="/wiki/Commons:OVERCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:OVERCAT">COM:OVERCAT</a> are extremely easy to understand, follow, and there's absolutely no legitimate reason why someone who's been contributing to the project as long as you should be having issues over it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Adamant1-20240906183200-Orijentolog-20240906111700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240906183200-Orijentolog-20240906111700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240906183200-Orijentolog-20240906111700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240906190600-Adamant1-20240906183200"></span>There's no any issue with OVERCAT there, as I explained. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog" title="User talk:Orijentolog"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Orijentolog-20240906190600-Adamant1-20240906183200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240906190600-Adamant1-20240906183200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240906190600-Adamant1-20240906183200"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive%20editing"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240906195300-Orijentolog-20240906190600"></span>IDHT</a>. Your clearly failing to get the point. --<a href="/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Adamant1-20240906195300-Orijentolog-20240906190600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240906195300-Orijentolog-20240906190600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240906195300-Orijentolog-20240906190600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240906184700-Orijentolog-20240906111700"></span>I'm calm. At least it's not me who's slamming the door but subsequently continuing to edit as if nothing happened. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240906184700-Orijentolog-20240906111700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240906184700-Orijentolog-20240906111700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240906184700-Orijentolog-20240906111700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240906191700-A.Savin-20240906184700"></span>I edited something related to the discussion here, changed by IP, nothing else. And I don't intend to continue editing only because of your behavior. In the end, I have to admit that you entertained me with your claims that you are some kind of "Westerner". You're not, you have no manners. Goodbye. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog" title="User talk:Orijentolog"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Orijentolog-20240906191700-A.Savin-20240906184700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240906191700-A.Savin-20240906184700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240906191700-A.Savin-20240906184700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240925171800-Thanks"></span>Just to let you know: the <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2024/09/Category:Towers_in_Iran" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:Towers in Iran">discussion about towers</a> is over, so it's back to its original state. I do not intend to insert the same categories in all countries, except for those where I have comprehensively edited the subcategories (several major European countries). So please don't mind. Your comment that "shape of buildings is here commonly meant as 3D shape" was incorrect, as currently only 7-8 such categories exist, while tens of others stand for 2D shapes. Only polygonal have 22 different 2D shapes. You can see the current situation at <i><a href="/wiki/Category_talk:Buildings_by_shape" title="Category talk:Buildings by shape">Category talk:Buildings by shape</a></i>, where I have put a division proposal for the future, and that can be recategorized later, in a year, two... no rush. If you have suggestions or criticism, feel free to leave a comment. Also, if you see something controversial or what seems to you controversial about the existing architectural categorization, feel free to ask me. If I made a mistake, I will take care of it comprehensively. All the best. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog" title="User talk:Orijentolog"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Orijentolog-20240925171800-Thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:18, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240925171800-Thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240925171800-Thanks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Zum_meiner_Datei..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Zum_meiner_Datei...-20240907163200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Zum_meiner_Datei...-20240907163200"></span>Zum meiner Datei...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Zum_meiner_Datei...-20240907163200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Zum meiner Datei..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ahmet_Düz-20240907163200-Zum_meiner_Datei..."></span>Guten Abend @<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a>! Du hattest mich wieder dran erinnert, mit dem Thema "(Fotos von den) Kunstwerken auf Commons". Dafür bedanke ich mich nochmals sehr! Ich wollte dir allerdings nur erinnern, dass auf dieser Foto NICHT auf einen Kunstwerk sich handelt, sondern um einige Kopftücher aus einem Live-Performance! Falls ich aber doch erneut einen Thema begangen habe, bitte ich um Entschuldigung! Viele Grüße, <a href="/wiki/User:Ahmet_D%C3%BCz" title="User:Ahmet Düz">Ahmet Düz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahmet_D%C3%BCz" title="User talk:Ahmet Düz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Ahmet_Düz-20240907163200-Zum_meiner_Datei..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:32, 7 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ahmet_Düz-20240907163200-Zum_meiner_Datei..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ahmet_Düz-20240907163200-Zum_meiner_Datei..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240907202800-Ahmet_Düz-20240907163200"></span>Nun, wenn <a href="/wiki/File:2024-07-20_Revolutionsfest_Rastatt_Performance_001.jpg" title="File:2024-07-20 Revolutionsfest Rastatt Performance 001.jpg">das</a> einfach nur ein Haufen Kopftücher auf dem Boden ist, was soll dann der Nutzen eines solchen Fotos für das Projekt sein? --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240907202800-Ahmet_Düz-20240907163200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240907202800-Ahmet_Düz-20240907163200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240907202800-Ahmet_Düz-20240907163200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ahmet_Düz-20240907205100-A.Savin-20240907202800"></span>Siehe hier: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Performance_mit_der_K%C3%BCnstlerin_Farzane_Vaziritabar_in_der_St%C3%A4dtische_Galerie_Fruchthalle,_anl%C3%A4sslich_zum_%22175_Jahre_Badische_Revolution%22_in_Rastatt_am_20._Juli_2024?fbclid=IwY2xjawFJm6JleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHfFyhnI7JfZIrXwO4pzwKXbYKIkI8GrI8ym-cYNw0tqiE1FonltfzZwCFQ_aem_3YoftiKL_H9dTeBwsQiJBw">[2]</a>. Viele Grüße, <a href="/wiki/User:Ahmet_D%C3%BCz" title="User:Ahmet Düz">Ahmet Düz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahmet_D%C3%BCz" title="User talk:Ahmet Düz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Ahmet_Düz-20240907205100-A.Savin-20240907202800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ahmet_Düz-20240907205100-A.Savin-20240907202800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ahmet_Düz-20240907205100-A.Savin-20240907202800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240907221500-Ahmet_Düz-20240907205100"></span>Oder, um es mal halbwegs nutzerfreundlich zu verlinken: <a href="/wiki/Category:Performance_mit_der_K%C3%BCnstlerin_Farzane_Vaziritabar_in_der_St%C3%A4dtische_Galerie_Fruchthalle,_anl%C3%A4sslich_zum_%22175_Jahre_Badische_Revolution%22_in_Rastatt_am_20._Juli_2024" title="Category:Performance mit der Künstlerin Farzane Vaziritabar in der Städtische Galerie Fruchthalle, anlässlich zum "175 Jahre Badische Revolution" in Rastatt am 20. Juli 2024">Category:Performance mit der Künstlerin Farzane Vaziritabar in der Städtische Galerie Fruchthalle, anlässlich zum "175 Jahre Badische Revolution" in Rastatt am 20. Juli 2024</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240907221500-Ahmet_Düz-20240907205100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 7 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240907221500-Ahmet_Düz-20240907205100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240907221500-Ahmet_Düz-20240907205100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_see_this_complaint_Charlesjsharp_(talk)_18:10,_7_September_2024_(UTC)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_see_this_complaint_Charlesjsharp_(talk)_18:10,_7_September_2024_(UTC)"><span id="Please_see_this_complaint_Charlesjsharp_.28talk.29_18:10.2C_7_September_2024_.28UTC.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_see_this_complaint_Charlesjsharp_(talk)_18:10,_7_September_2024_(UTC)"></span>Please see <a class="external text" href="https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems#User:A.Savin">this complaint</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Charlesjsharp" title="User:Charlesjsharp">Charlesjsharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Charlesjsharp" title="User talk:Charlesjsharp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 18:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_see_this_complaint_Charlesjsharp_(talk)_18:10,_7_September_2024_(UTC)"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Please see this complaint Charlesjsharp (talk) 18:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Опознание_персоналий" data-mw-thread-id="h-Опознание_персоналий-20240908085300"><span id=".D0.9E.D0.BF.D0.BE.D0.B7.D0.BD.D0.B0.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.B5_.D0.BF.D0.B5.D1.80.D1.81.D0.BE.D0.BD.D0.B0.D0.BB.D0.B8.D0.B9"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Опознание_персоналий-20240908085300"></span>Опознание персоналий<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Опознание_персоналий-20240908085300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Опознание персоналий"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240908085300-Опознание_персоналий"></span>Привет! У меня к Вам просьба помочь с опознанием персоналий в категориях <a href="/wiki/Category:Unidentified_politicians_of_Russia" title="Category:Unidentified politicians of Russia">Category:Unidentified politicians of Russia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Unidentified_people_of_Russia" title="Category:Unidentified people of Russia">Category:Unidentified people of Russia</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:MasterRus21thCentury" title="User:MasterRus21thCentury">MasterRus21thCentury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MasterRus21thCentury" title="User talk:MasterRus21thCentury"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240908085300-Опознание_персоналий" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240908085300-Опознание_персоналий"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240908085300-Опознание_персоналий"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)-20240909075000"><span id="Category:Kommunarka_.28Moscow_Metro.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)-20240909075000"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Kommunarka (Moscow Metro) (page does not exist)">Category:Kommunarka (Moscow Metro)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)-20240909075000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Category:Kommunarka (Moscow Metro)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Горизонт_событий-20240909075000-Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)"></span>Hello! I moved this category, because I wanted to move <a href="/wiki/Category:Bachurinskaya_(Moscow_Metro)" title="Category:Bachurinskaya (Moscow Metro)">Category:Bachurinskaya (Moscow Metro)</a> to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Kommunarka (Moscow Metro) (page does not exist)">Category:Kommunarka (Moscow Metro)</a>, since this is the current name of the station. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="User:Горизонт событий">Горизонт событий</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="User talk:Горизонт событий"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Горизонт_событий-20240909075000-Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Горизонт_событий-20240909075000-Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Горизонт_событий-20240909075000-Category:Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Горизонт_событий-20240909191200-Горизонт_событий-20240909075000"></span>Thanks for moving! <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="User:Горизонт событий">Горизонт событий</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="User talk:Горизонт событий"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Горизонт_событий-20240909191200-Горизонт_событий-20240909075000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Горизонт_событий-20240909191200-Горизонт_событий-20240909075000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Горизонт_событий-20240909191200-Горизонт_событий-20240909075000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notification_about_possible_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notification_about_possible_deletion-20240910023100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notification_about_possible_deletion-20240910023100"></span>Notification about possible deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notification_about_possible_deletion-20240910023100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Notification about possible deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="layouttemplate" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:0; border:2px solid var(--border-color-warning,#D6D0B4); background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#F5EAB8);color: inherit;" dir="ltr"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240910023100-Notification_about_possible_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Commons-emblem-issue.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Commons-emblem-issue.svg/75px-Commons-emblem-issue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="75" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Commons-emblem-issue.svg/113px-Commons-emblem-issue.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Commons-emblem-issue.svg/150px-Commons-emblem-issue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span><span class="layouttemplateargs" style="display:none;speak:none;" title="template=Idw 1%3D 2%3DFiles+in+Category%3AStatues+of+Lenin+in+Vyksa 3%3Dplural"> </span> </td> <td><div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="description en" style="display:inline;">Some contents have been listed at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests" title="Commons:Deletion requests">Commons:Deletion requests</a> so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. 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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Idw/lang&action=edit">+/−</a></small></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Affected: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/File:Vyksa-lenin-i-tserkov.JPG" title="File:Vyksa-lenin-i-tserkov.JPG">File:Vyksa-lenin-i-tserkov.JPG</a></li></ul> <p><br/> Yours sincerely, <a href="/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Adamant1-20240910023100-Notification_about_possible_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240910023100-Notification_about_possible_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240910023100-Notification_about_possible_deletion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vaduz_Castle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vaduz_Castle-20240911123400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vaduz_Castle-20240911123400"></span>Vaduz Castle<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vaduz_Castle-20240911123400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Vaduz Castle"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GuyFromGaspésie2-20240911123400-Vaduz_Castle"></span>Good job on the photos for the Vaduz Castle on the wikipedia page for Vaduz Castle! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GuyFromGasp%C3%A9sie2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GuyFromGaspésie2 (page does not exist)">GuyFromGaspésie2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GuyFromGasp%C3%A9sie2" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:GuyFromGaspésie2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-GuyFromGaspésie2-20240911123400-Vaduz_Castle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GuyFromGaspésie2-20240911123400-Vaduz_Castle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GuyFromGaspésie2-20240911123400-Vaduz_Castle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Зоовыставки" data-mw-thread-id="h-Зоовыставки-20240922155200"><span id=".D0.97.D0.BE.D0.BE.D0.B2.D1.8B.D1.81.D1.82.D0.B0.D0.B2.D0.BA.D0.B8"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Зоовыставки-20240922155200"></span>Зоовыставки<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Зоовыставки-20240922155200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Зоовыставки"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-George_Chernilevsky-20240922155200-Зоовыставки"></span>Доброго времени суток, Александр!<br/> Не все зоовыставки на гастролях бывают ужасными. Я уже давно не видел таких, в которых измученные животные сидят в тесных грязных клетках. Сейчас это, скорее, возможность энтузиастам экзотики продемонстрировать своих питомцев и свои успехи. В довоенные годы такие выставки были очень неплохими.<br/> В 2009 я познакомился с коллекционером экзотики, у которого выставка и все питомцы были очень ухоженными и регулярно давали потомство. Это Евгений Буяновер из Днепра, основатель и владелец Трогательного зоопарка, человек с высшим биологическим образованием. В Интернете есть много публикаций о его деятельности. В коллекции Евгения много птицеедов, рептилий, скорпионов, есть разные многоножки и ракообразные.<br/> Подобные коллекционеры есть и в других городах Украины, и в Виннице тоже.<br/> Так что не стоит априори считать временную выставку животных злом.<br/> С уважением, Георгий -- <a href="/wiki/User:George_Chernilevsky" title="User:George Chernilevsky"><span style="color:darkgreen;">George Chernilevsky</span></a> <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:George_Chernilevsky" title="User talk:George Chernilevsky">talk</a></span></small></sup></b> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-George_Chernilevsky-20240922155200-Зоовыставки" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-George_Chernilevsky-20240922155200-Зоовыставки"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-George_Chernilevsky-20240922155200-Зоовыставки"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240922160900-George_Chernilevsky-20240922155200"></span>Здравствуйте, Георгий, спасибо за разъяснение.</dd> <dd>Как я вижу, номинация и без меня прошла единогласно. Мне кажется, что в любом случае там нужна и категория по месту съёмки. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240922160900-George_Chernilevsky-20240922155200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240922160900-George_Chernilevsky-20240922155200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240922160900-George_Chernilevsky-20240922155200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Флаг_ПФ" data-mw-thread-id="h-Флаг_ПФ-20240922163900"><span id=".D0.A4.D0.BB.D0.B0.D0.B3_.D0.9F.D0.A4"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Флаг_ПФ-20240922163900"></span>Флаг ПФ<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Флаг_ПФ-20240922163900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Флаг ПФ"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MBH-20240922163900-Флаг_ПФ"></span>Приветствую ещё раз. Я не очень разобрался, какие здесь процедуры подачи заявок на мелкие флаги - можете выдать моей основной учётке флаг переименовывающего файлы? Он уже более 10 лет есть у меня на боте (я получил его одновременно с ботом для массовых переименований названий с кирлатом), но отдельные переименования просто плохо названных файлов неудобно делать с учётки бота. <a href="/wiki/User:MBH" title="User:MBH">MBH</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MBH-20240922163900-Флаг_ПФ" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MBH-20240922163900-Флаг_ПФ"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MBH-20240922163900-Флаг_ПФ"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240922183200-MBH-20240922163900"></span>OK --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240922183200-MBH-20240922163900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240922183200-MBH-20240922163900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240922183200-MBH-20240922163900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MBH-20240922230600-A.Savin-20240922183200"></span>Спасибо. <a href="/wiki/User:MBH" title="User:MBH">MBH</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MBH-20240922230600-A.Savin-20240922183200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MBH-20240922230600-A.Savin-20240922183200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MBH-20240922230600-A.Savin-20240922183200"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MBH-20241013144900-MBH-20240922163900"></span>Приветствую снова. Хотел бы попросить также о выдаче флага ipblock-exempt. Я гружу файлы в аплоад визарде большими наборами, такой набор заливается на склад час-два, и использую впн (бесплатный, без настройки исключений по доменам) для доступа к ютубу и дискорду. Для обычных правок в вики можно, хоть и неудобно, включать-выключать впн для правки, но на время заливки набора на склад он должен быть перманентно выключен, иначе заливка валится. <a href="/wiki/User:MBH" title="User:MBH">MBH</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MBH-20241013144900-MBH-20240922163900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MBH-20241013144900-MBH-20240922163900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MBH-20241013144900-MBH-20240922163900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Бачуринская_и_Коммунарка" data-mw-thread-id="h-Бачуринская_и_Коммунарка-20240925172900"><span id=".D0.91.D0.B0.D1.87.D1.83.D1.80.D0.B8.D0.BD.D1.81.D0.BA.D0.B0.D1.8F_.D0.B8_.D0.9A.D0.BE.D0.BC.D0.BC.D1.83.D0.BD.D0.B0.D1.80.D0.BA.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Бачуринская_и_Коммунарка-20240925172900"></span>Бачуринская и Коммунарка<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Бачуринская_и_Коммунарка-20240925172900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Бачуринская и Коммунарка"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Горизонт_событий-20240925172900-Бачуринская_и_Коммунарка"></span>Здравствуйте! Не могли бы вы, пожалуйста, переименовать страницу <a href="/wiki/Category:Construction_of_Bachurinskaya_(Moscow_Metro)" title="Category:Construction of Bachurinskaya (Moscow Metro)">Category:Construction of Bachurinskaya (Moscow Metro)</a> в <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Construction_of_Kommunarka_(Moscow_Metro)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Construction of Kommunarka (Moscow Metro) (page does not exist)">Category:Construction of Kommunarka (Moscow Metro)</a>? Потому что название станции поменялось, она откроется под названием Коммунарка. Увы, сейчас во второй категории стоит редирект на строительство Новомосковской-Сокольнической. Кажется, вы можете удалять категории? Заранее спасибо. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="User:Горизонт событий">Горизонт событий</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="User talk:Горизонт событий"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Горизонт_событий-20240925172900-Бачуринская_и_Коммунарка" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Горизонт_событий-20240925172900-Бачуринская_и_Коммунарка"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Горизонт_событий-20240925172900-Бачуринская_и_Коммунарка"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240925181200-Горизонт_событий-20240925172900"></span>Да, конечно --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240925181200-Горизонт_событий-20240925172900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240925181200-Горизонт_событий-20240925172900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240925181200-Горизонт_событий-20240925172900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Горизонт_событий-20240926131100-A.Savin-20240925181200"></span>Спасибо. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="User:Горизонт событий">Горизонт событий</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="User talk:Горизонт событий"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Горизонт_событий-20240926131100-A.Savin-20240925181200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Горизонт_событий-20240926131100-A.Savin-20240925181200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Горизонт_событий-20240926131100-A.Savin-20240925181200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ahrensfelde" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ahrensfelde-20240926183900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ahrensfelde-20240926183900"></span>Ahrensfelde<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ahrensfelde-20240926183900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Ahrensfelde"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20240926183900-Ahrensfelde"></span>Hallo Alex! Findest du <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Streets_in_Ahrensfelde_(Ot._Ahrensfelde,_Barnim)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Streets in Ahrensfelde (Ot. Ahrensfelde, Barnim) (page does not exist)">hierfür</a> eine elegantere Lösung? Gruß <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20240926183900-Ahrensfelde" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20240926183900-Ahrensfelde"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20240926183900-Ahrensfelde"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240926213500-L._Beck-20240926183900"></span>Hi Lukas. Hmm, verstehe ich richtig dass Ahrensfelde ein Ortsteil von Ahrensfelde ist. Dann würde eventuell ein Name wie "Streets in Ahrensfelde (Ahrensfelde)" reichen, allerdings verstehe ich den Sinn des ganzen nicht, sieht man doch, dass es dort ganze zwei Einträge gibt und auch keine Kategorie für diesen Ortsteil in <a href="/wiki/Category:Districts_of_Ahrensfelde_(Brandenburg)" title="Category:Districts of Ahrensfelde (Brandenburg)">Category:Districts of Ahrensfelde (Brandenburg)</a> soweit existiert. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240926213500-L._Beck-20240926183900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240926213500-L._Beck-20240926183900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240926213500-L._Beck-20240926183900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20240927040700-A.Savin-20240926213500"></span>Naja, der Nutzer hat ja für jeden Ortsteil der Gemeinde Ahrensfelde die Straßenkategorie erstellt und wollte wohl Vollständigkeitshalber den Ortsteil Ahrensfelde nicht außen vor lassen. Aber wie du schon sagst, existiert dafür kein Kategorienbaum. Ich weiß auch nicht ob sich das lohnt? Gruß <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20240927040700-A.Savin-20240926213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:07, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20240927040700-A.Savin-20240926213500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20240927040700-A.Savin-20240926213500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240928151100-L._Beck-20240927040700"></span>Nun, man könnte die Kategorie für OT Ahrensfelde anlegen mit einer Streets Unterkategorie eund es vorerst dabei belassen. Keine Ahnung, wieso <a href="/wiki/User:Radler22" title="User:Radler22">Radler22</a> diese Kategorie ausgespart hat. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240928151100-L._Beck-20240927040700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240928151100-L._Beck-20240927040700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240928151100-L._Beck-20240927040700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20240928152000-A.Savin-20240928151100"></span>Ist den die Abkürzung <i>OT</i> eine gängige und bekannte Abkürzung auf Commons? <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20240928152000-A.Savin-20240928151100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20240928152000-A.Savin-20240928151100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20240928152000-A.Savin-20240928151100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240928152400-L._Beck-20240928152000"></span>Eigentlich nicht. Ich würde Ahrensfelde (Ahrensfelde) verwenden, auch wenn's doppelt gemoppelt rüberkommt... --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240928152400-L._Beck-20240928152000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:24, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240928152400-L._Beck-20240928152000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240928152400-L._Beck-20240928152000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20240928153600-A.Savin-20240928152400"></span>Danke. Ich habe das jetzt Mal entsprechend angepasst. Schönes Wochenende gewünscht <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20240928153600-A.Savin-20240928152400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20240928153600-A.Savin-20240928152400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20240928153600-A.Savin-20240928152400"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Radler22-20240928154100-L._Beck-20240928152000"></span>Hallö @<a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">L. Beck</a> und @<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> Ot. ist eine eigentlich generell gebräuchliche Abkürzung für Ortsteil. Ich habe mich bei der Kategorie auch für die Verwendung entschieden, um es nicht nach doppelt gemoppeltem, oder Schreibfehler aussehen zu lassen, sondern auch für den Nichtwissenden klarzustellen, das es sich um einen Ortsteil mit dem gleichen Namen handelt. In der Kategorie Straßen Ahrensfelde ist ein Kauderwelch aus straßen der verschiedenen Ortsteile vorhanden, sodaß der Suchende es schwer hat, das richtige zu finden. Daher die Aufteilung, schließlich hat jeder andere Ortsteil ja auch seine eigene Unterkategorie. Die Hauptkategorie Ahrensfelde müsste ansich genauso aufgeteilt werden, denn dort weiß man auch nicht, was sich nun auf den alten Ort Ahrensfelde, seir 2003 Ortsteil Ahrensfelde und was auf den Gemeindezusammenschluß bezieht. Da ist die Namensgebung für die Sortierung recht ungünstig. Ich habe dies für die Hauptkategorie nicht auchnoch angelegt, wel dies eine stundenlange Arbeit, mit allem zurechtsortieren bedeuten würde. Die meisten Arbeiten arten so schon reichlich aus. Ich arbeite hier keine Auftragsliste ab, sondern lege da Hand an, wo es mich gerade drauf stößt und mein Hirn meint " ja komm los". Selbst bei den Straßen müsste man noch reichlich weitersortieren, L.Beck hat ja da schönerweise, gleich einiges noch erledigt. <a href="/wiki/User:Radler22" title="User:Radler22">Radler22</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Radler22" title="User talk:Radler22"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Radler22-20240928154100-L._Beck-20240928152000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Radler22-20240928154100-L._Beck-20240928152000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Radler22-20240928154100-L._Beck-20240928152000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20240928154400-Radler22-20240928154100"></span>Es dürfte für deutlich mehr Verwirrung sorgen, wenn du mit deiner Ortsteilabkürzung vom Standard abweichst. Daher halte ich die Idee von A.Savin für sinnvoller. Es mag "doppelt gemoppelt" aussehen, aber ist es das nicht auch? Der Ort heißt halt genau so, wie die Gemeinde. Als kann man das ruhig so umsetzten. Gruß <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20240928154400-Radler22-20240928154100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20240928154400-Radler22-20240928154100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20240928154400-Radler22-20240928154100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Radler22-20240928161200-L._Beck-20240928154400"></span>Hallö @<a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">L. Beck</a> verzeiung bitte, aber ich wußte da leider nicht, das es hier extra Standards dafür gibt. Ich hatte extra nochmal nachgeschaut, und diese Abkürzung ist sogar nach DIN, nur das sie da wohl mit beiden Buchstaben großgechrieben wird. Ich kannte dies nur so wie ich es schrieb. Aber auch jetzt mit der Änderung ist es wohl besser als vorher.</dd> <dd>Nun wäre es gut, wenn jemand die Zeit und Muße hätte, auch für den Ort Ahrensfelde selber eine Kategorie zu erstellen. Wie oben angemerkt, laut 'Districts of Ahrensfelde' gibt es diesen Ort nicht.</dd> <dd>beste Grüße Marek <a href="/wiki/User:Radler22" title="User:Radler22">Radler22</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Radler22" title="User talk:Radler22"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Radler22-20240928161200-L._Beck-20240928154400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Radler22-20240928161200-L._Beck-20240928154400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Radler22-20240928161200-L._Beck-20240928154400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Памяти_участника" data-mw-thread-id="h-Памяти_участника-20240927144700"><span id=".D0.9F.D0.B0.D0.BC.D1.8F.D1.82.D0.B8_.D1.83.D1.87.D0.B0.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.BA.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Памяти_участника-20240927144700"></span>Памяти участника<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Памяти_участника-20240927144700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Памяти участника"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-92.243.182.32-20240927144700-Памяти_участника"></span>Здравствуйте, добавьте, пожалуйста, в <a href="/wiki/Commons:RIP" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:RIP">COM:RIP</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:SKas" title="User:SKas">SKas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SKas" title="User talk:SKas">talk</a><span style="white-space:nowrap"> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SKas" title="Special:Contributions/SKas">contribs</a>) (<a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B9/2024/09#Памяти_участника" class="extiw" title="ru:Википедия:Форум/Архив/Общий/2024/09">ru:Википедия:Форум/Архив/Общий/2024/09#Памяти участника</a>). --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.243.182.32" title="Special:Contributions/92.243.182.32">92.243.182.32</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-92.243.182.32-20240927144700-Памяти_участника" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-92.243.182.32-20240927144700-Памяти_участника"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-92.243.182.32-20240927144700-Памяти_участника"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="О_метаданных" data-mw-thread-id="h-О_метаданных-20240927194500"><span id=".D0.9E_.D0.BC.D0.B5.D1.82.D0.B0.D0.B4.D0.B0.D0.BD.D0.BD.D1.8B.D1.85"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-О_метаданных-20240927194500"></span>О метаданных<span data-mw-comment-end="h-О_метаданных-20240927194500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: О метаданных"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240927194500-О_метаданных"></span>Приветствую. У меня есть такой вопрос - как у вас такое получается, когда изображение обрезано, а в исходных метаданных указаны его ширина и высота, как на примере <a href="/wiki/File:Alexey_Venediktov_asv2024-02.jpg" title="File:Alexey Venediktov asv2024-02.jpg">Вашей фотографии Алексея Венедиктова</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:MasterRus21thCentury" title="User:MasterRus21thCentury">MasterRus21thCentury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MasterRus21thCentury" title="User talk:MasterRus21thCentury"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240927194500-О_метаданных" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240927194500-О_метаданных"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240927194500-О_метаданных"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20240928150600-MasterRus21thCentury-20240927194500"></span>Вы имеете в виду 7952x5304? Если так, то это размер каждого кадра-исходника от этой камеры, так что ничего странного --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20240928150600-MasterRus21thCentury-20240927194500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20240928150600-MasterRus21thCentury-20240927194500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20240928150600-MasterRus21thCentury-20240927194500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240928175400-A.Savin-20240928150600"></span>Получается, вы используете специальную программу для обрезки что-то вроде Adobe Photoshop? <a href="/wiki/User:MasterRus21thCentury" title="User:MasterRus21thCentury">MasterRus21thCentury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MasterRus21thCentury" title="User talk:MasterRus21thCentury"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240928175400-A.Savin-20240928150600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240928175400-A.Savin-20240928150600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MasterRus21thCentury-20240928175400-A.Savin-20240928150600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SDC_reverts" data-mw-thread-id="h-SDC_reverts-20241010180700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SDC_reverts-20241010180700"></span>SDC reverts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SDC_reverts-20241010180700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: SDC reverts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MB-one-20241010180700-SDC_reverts"></span>Hi A.Savin, </p><p>you have reverted a few of my SDC statements regarding the location of creation (e. g. <a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=937142176">https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=937142176</a>) and now these files are once again lacking such statements (see <a href="/wiki/Category:Files_with_coordinates_missing_SDC_location_of_creation" title="Category:Files with coordinates missing SDC location of creation">Files with coordinates missing SDC location of creation</a>). Can you please clarify your rationale for these reverts? Thank you --<a href="/wiki/User:MB-one" title="User:MB-one">MB-one</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MB-one" title="User talk:MB-one"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MB-one-20241010180700-SDC_reverts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MB-one-20241010180700-SDC_reverts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MB-one-20241010180700-SDC_reverts"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241010190600-MB-one-20241010180700"></span>It was "locality of creation (P1071)" which only applies for manufactured objects. Also, Saxony is not an appropriate value, too generic. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241010190600-MB-one-20241010180700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241010190600-MB-one-20241010180700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241010190600-MB-one-20241010180700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MB-one-20241011070500-A.Savin-20241010190600"></span>Hello again,</dd> <dd>There seems to be a misunderstanding as <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityPage/P1071" class="extiw" title="d:Special:EntityPage/P1071">location of creation <small>(P1071)</small></a> is the designated property to indicate the location from where a photograph was taken (see <a href="/wiki/Template:Missing_SDC_location_of_creation" title="Template:Missing SDC location of creation">{{Missing SDC location of creation}}</a> for reference). Also, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1202" class="extiw" title="d:Q1202"><span title="state in Germany">Saxony <small>(Q1202)</small></span></a> is a correct value according to the GPS coordinates of the camera. If you want to change it to a more specific value, that's obviously fine, but removing a valid statement doesn't make sense to me. <a href="/wiki/User:MB-one" title="User:MB-one">MB-one</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MB-one" title="User talk:MB-one"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MB-one-20241011070500-A.Savin-20241010190600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MB-one-20241011070500-A.Savin-20241010190600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MB-one-20241011070500-A.Savin-20241010190600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241011191400-MB-one-20241011070500"></span>OK, P1071 you are right. Still, for mass-adding sth like Saxony I strongly <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Oppose</bdi></b>. Please apply for bot rights for such edits. I'd like to have a possibility to filter them out on my watchlist. Besides, it should be perfectly possible nowadays to add more generic values (based on cats, coords etc...) automatically. We don't need to create such a mess with adding "France" instead of "Eiffel Tower" to pictures of Eiffel Tower. So I will not restore these Saxony values on my pictures and if you add it again I will report you. Thanks --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241011191400-MB-one-20241011070500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241011191400-MB-one-20241011070500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241011191400-MB-one-20241011070500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MB-one-20241012065700-A.Savin-20241011191400"></span>Hi A.Savin,</dd> <dd>Again, please feel free to add more specific value instead of removing a valid value alltogether. If you want to filter these edits on your watchlist, you can easily do so by filtering out edits with the tag AC/DC. <a href="/wiki/Commons:Bots" title="Commons:Bots">Bots</a> have a different purpose on Commons.</dd> <dd>Please note, that reverting of useful edits can be seen as <a href="/wiki/Commons:Edit_war" title="Commons:Edit war">edit warring</a>. So, I strongly advise against it. If you have further questions, feel free to ping me. Otherwise I see this discussion as completed.</dd> <dd>Have a nice weekend, <a href="/wiki/User:MB-one" title="User:MB-one">MB-one</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MB-one" title="User talk:MB-one"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-MB-one-20241012065700-A.Savin-20241011191400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MB-one-20241012065700-A.Savin-20241011191400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MB-one-20241012065700-A.Savin-20241011191400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241012175300-MB-one-20241012065700"></span>No, I cannot filter it as AC/DC or whatever.</dd> <dd>Your threats are of course irrelevant because if you re-install these meaningless SDC edits then you are the editwarrior for sure.</dd> <dd>Yes, the discussion is completed indeed, as any discussion with you appears to be useless in the first place. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241012175300-MB-one-20241012065700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241012175300-MB-one-20241012065700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241012175300-MB-one-20241012065700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Quality_Image_Promotion_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Quality_Image_Promotion_2-20241014080100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Quality_Image_Promotion_2-20241014080100"></span>Quality Image Promotion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Quality_Image_Promotion_2-20241014080100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Quality Image Promotion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ReneeWrites-20241014080100-Quality_Image_Promotion_2"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r364463798"> <table class="qic-promoted" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <tbody><tr> <td><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TR_Izmir_asv2020-02_img17_G%C3%BCndo%C4%9Fdu_Square.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/TR_Izmir_asv2020-02_img17_G%C3%BCndo%C4%9Fdu_Square.jpg/75px-TR_Izmir_asv2020-02_img17_G%C3%BCndo%C4%9Fdu_Square.jpg" decoding="async" width="75" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/TR_Izmir_asv2020-02_img17_G%C3%BCndo%C4%9Fdu_Square.jpg/113px-TR_Izmir_asv2020-02_img17_G%C3%BCndo%C4%9Fdu_Square.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/TR_Izmir_asv2020-02_img17_G%C3%BCndo%C4%9Fdu_Square.jpg/150px-TR_Izmir_asv2020-02_img17_G%C3%BCndo%C4%9Fdu_Square.jpg 2x" data-file-width="6539" data-file-height="3678"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td> <td><div class="qic-promoted-title">Your image has been reviewed and promoted</div> <p>Congratulations! <b><a href="/wiki/File:TR_Izmir_asv2020-02_img17_G%C3%BCndo%C4%9Fdu_Square.jpg" title="File:TR Izmir asv2020-02 img17 Gündoğdu Square.jpg">TR Izmir asv2020-02 img17 Gündoğdu Square.jpg</a></b>, which was produced by you, was reviewed and has now been promoted to <a href="/wiki/Commons:Quality_images" title="Commons:Quality images">Quality Image</a> status. </p><p>If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Quality_images_candidates" title="Commons:Quality images candidates">Quality images candidates</a>. </p><p>We also invite you to take part in the categorization of <a href="/wiki/Commons:Quality_images/Recently_promoted" title="Commons:Quality images/Recently promoted">recently promoted quality images</a>. <br/><span class="qic-comments-title">Comments</span> <span lang="" dir="auto"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Support</bdi></b> Good quality. --<a href="/wiki/User:ReneeWrites" title="User:ReneeWrites">ReneeWrites</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-ReneeWrites-20241014080100-Quality_Image_Promotion_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:01, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ReneeWrites-20241014080100-Quality_Image_Promotion_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ReneeWrites-20241014080100-Quality_Image_Promotion_2"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QICbot-20241017053200-Quality_Image_Promotion_2"></span>--<a href="/wiki/User:QICbot" title="User:QICbot">QICbot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QICbot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:QICbot"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-QICbot-20241017053200-Quality_Image_Promotion_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:32, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QICbot-20241017053200-Quality_Image_Promotion_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QICbot-20241017053200-Quality_Image_Promotion_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gutspark_Groß_Glienicke" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gutspark_Groß_Glienicke-20241017160900"><span id="Gutspark_Gro.C3.9F_Glienicke"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gutspark_Groß_Glienicke-20241017160900"></span>Gutspark Groß Glienicke<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gutspark_Groß_Glienicke-20241017160900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Gutspark Groß Glienicke"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GPSLeo-20241017160900-Gutspark_Groß_Glienicke"></span>Du hast meine Änderung wieder rückgängig gemacht. Auf dem Foto ist das Tor zu sehen, das 300 Meter von der Grenze entfernt in Berlin steht. Die <a href="/wiki/Category:Gutspark_Gro%C3%9F_Glienicke" title="Category:Gutspark Groß Glienicke">Category:Gutspark Groß Glienicke</a> beschreibt jedoch nur den Brandenburger Teil. Das Tor Gehört zu einem Baudenkmal in Berlin, das in der Denkmaldatenbank den Namen <a href="/wiki/Category:Rittergut_Gro%C3%9F_Glienicke" title="Category:Rittergut Groß Glienicke">Category:Rittergut Groß Glienicke</a> hat <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://denkmaldatenbank.berlin.de/daobj.php?obj_dok_nr=09085592">[3]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:GPSLeo" title="User:GPSLeo">GPSLeo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GPSLeo" title="User talk:GPSLeo"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-GPSLeo-20241017160900-Gutspark_Groß_Glienicke" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GPSLeo-20241017160900-Gutspark_Groß_Glienicke"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GPSLeo-20241017160900-Gutspark_Groß_Glienicke"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241017161300-GPSLeo-20241017160900"></span>Bezieht sich denn der Name Gutspark auf das Rittergut? --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241017161300-GPSLeo-20241017160900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241017161300-GPSLeo-20241017160900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241017161300-GPSLeo-20241017160900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GPSLeo-20241017170200-A.Savin-20241017161300"></span>Die gehören historisch wohl schon zusammen, sind aber durch die Landesgrenze zwei getrennte Denkmäler. Habe gerade auch bemerkt, dass sie selbst in Wikipedia getrennt werden. <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutspark_Gro%C3%9F_Glienicke" class="extiw" title="de:Gutspark Groß Glienicke">de:Gutspark Groß Glienicke</a> und <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rittergut_Gro%C3%9F_Glienicke" class="extiw" title="de:Rittergut Groß Glienicke">de:Rittergut Groß Glienicke</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:GPSLeo" title="User:GPSLeo">GPSLeo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GPSLeo" title="User talk:GPSLeo"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-GPSLeo-20241017170200-A.Savin-20241017161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GPSLeo-20241017170200-A.Savin-20241017161300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GPSLeo-20241017170200-A.Savin-20241017161300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241017174000-GPSLeo-20241017170200"></span>Somit ist die Gutspark-Kategorie als Unterkategorie des Ritterguts einzusortieren, was du versäumt hast, wie so oft. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241017174000-GPSLeo-20241017170200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241017174000-GPSLeo-20241017170200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241017174000-GPSLeo-20241017170200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GPSLeo-20241017180100-A.Savin-20241017174000"></span>Damit ist jetzt aber der Park in Brandenburg als Unterkategorie eines Baudenkmals in Berlin kategorisiert. Eigentlich versuche ich so etwas eher über <a href="/wiki/Template:See_also" title="Template:See also">{{See also}}</a> oder eine Überkategorie die weder in Berlin noch in Brandenburg sondern direkt in der Bundeskategorie einsortiert ist zu lösen. <a href="/wiki/User:GPSLeo" title="User:GPSLeo">GPSLeo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GPSLeo" title="User talk:GPSLeo"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-GPSLeo-20241017180100-A.Savin-20241017174000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GPSLeo-20241017180100-A.Savin-20241017174000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GPSLeo-20241017180100-A.Savin-20241017174000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241017181500-GPSLeo-20241017180100"></span>Meines Erachtens nicht schlimm. Es geht ja um ein und dasselbe Rittergut, und dass dort die Stadtgrenze verläuft macht daraus keine zwei voneinander unabhängige Objekte mit zwei nicht verbundenen Kategorien. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241017181500-GPSLeo-20241017180100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241017181500-GPSLeo-20241017180100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241017181500-GPSLeo-20241017180100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Фотография_с_показа_в_Берлине" data-mw-thread-id="h-Фотография_с_показа_в_Берлине-20241020200700"><span id=".D0.A4.D0.BE.D1.82.D0.BE.D0.B3.D1.80.D0.B0.D1.84.D0.B8.D1.8F_.D1.81_.D0.BF.D0.BE.D0.BA.D0.B0.D0.B7.D0.B0_.D0.B2_.D0.91.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.BB.D0.B8.D0.BD.D0.B5"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Фотография_с_показа_в_Берлине-20241020200700"></span>Фотография с показа в Берлине<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Фотография_с_показа_в_Берлине-20241020200700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Фотография с показа в Берлине"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-185.104.139.72-20241020200700-Фотография_с_показа_в_Берлине"></span>Добрый день, вы могли бы пожалйста убрать или использовать другую фотографию М. Локшин из Берлина с показа Мастер и Маргарита? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/185.104.139.72" title="Special:Contributions/185.104.139.72">185.104.139.72</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-185.104.139.72-20241020200700-Фотография_с_показа_в_Берлине" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-185.104.139.72-20241020200700-Фотография_с_показа_в_Берлине"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-185.104.139.72-20241020200700-Фотография_с_показа_в_Берлине"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241021042400-185.104.139.72-20241020200700"></span>Добрый день. На каком основании? --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241021042400-185.104.139.72-20241020200700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241021042400-185.104.139.72-20241020200700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241021042400-185.104.139.72-20241020200700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Crucifixes,_..._in_Wartburgkreis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Crucifixes,_..._in_Wartburgkreis-20241022095800"><span id="Crucifixes.2C_..._in_Wartburgkreis"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Crucifixes,_..._in_Wartburgkreis-20241022095800"></span>Crucifixes, ... in Wartburgkreis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Crucifixes,_..._in_Wartburgkreis-20241022095800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Crucifixes, ... in Wartburgkreis"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EACC80-20241022095800-Crucifixes,_..._in_Wartburgkreis"></span>Hallo - would you please respect the data I just completed in my district. The change will make categories empty again and can soon be deleted - that's annoying. I live here and process the data according to available documents. I took most of the photos myself. There are 400 districts in Germany where there is still a lot to do. Please choose another area. I'll watch your activities for the next few days. <a href="/wiki/User:EACC80" title="User:EACC80">EACC80</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EACC80" title="User talk:EACC80"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-EACC80-20241022095800-Crucifixes,_..._in_Wartburgkreis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:58, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EACC80-20241022095800-Crucifixes,_..._in_Wartburgkreis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EACC80-20241022095800-Crucifixes,_..._in_Wartburgkreis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241022110600-EACC80-20241022095800"></span>No clue what is your problem. Please add the "crucifixes" category only to files where a crucifix is clearly visible. Not every cross is a crucifix. A crucifix is a sculpture of Jesus on the cross. MfG --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241022110600-EACC80-20241022095800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241022110600-EACC80-20241022095800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241022110600-EACC80-20241022095800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EACC80-20241022111800-A.Savin-20241022110600"></span>Pleace have a look at this brand new examble of Vandalism in Wartburgkreis. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/thueringen/west-thueringen/wartburgkreis/liboriuskapelle-beschmiert-creuzburg-polizei-100.html">[4]</a> The Crosses are a christian symbol and is praxis do remove the Jesus figures after a catholic event as a precautionary measure - you understand, that the examples in this field are seldom. OK? <a href="/wiki/User:EACC80" title="User:EACC80">EACC80</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EACC80" title="User talk:EACC80"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-EACC80-20241022111800-A.Savin-20241022110600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EACC80-20241022111800-A.Savin-20241022110600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EACC80-20241022111800-A.Savin-20241022110600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241022112300-EACC80-20241022111800"></span>I'm still not sure what is your problem with me. If you want to report vandalism on crosses, go to the police. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241022112300-EACC80-20241022111800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241022112300-EACC80-20241022111800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241022112300-EACC80-20241022111800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20241022140900-A.Savin-20241022112300"></span>You should read the last message from them on their talk page. It's totally incompressible. Or maybe their trying to use Commons as a way to track crime? I can't really tell, but somethings going on here. --<a href="/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Adamant1-20241022140900-A.Savin-20241022112300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20241022140900-A.Savin-20241022112300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20241022140900-A.Savin-20241022112300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Toilette" data-mw-thread-id="h-Toilette-20241025145800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Toilette-20241025145800"></span>Toilette<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Toilette-20241025145800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Toilette"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mitumial-20241025145800-Toilette"></span>Wäre es für dich in Ordnung, wenn wir das Foto wieder in den Artikel einarbeiten. Ich habe noch einmal mit allen Beteiligten gesprochen und es bestehen keine Bedenken, außerdem veranschaulicht es das Lemma adäquat. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mitumial&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mitumial (page does not exist)">Mitumial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mitumial" title="User talk:Mitumial"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Mitumial-20241025145800-Toilette" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mitumial-20241025145800-Toilette"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mitumial-20241025145800-Toilette"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241025220900-Mitumial-20241025145800"></span>Es geht um <a href="/wiki/File:IMG_Toilettengang.jpg" title="File:IMG Toilettengang.jpg">dieses Bild</a>. Ich bin eigentlich dagegen, dies zu verwenden, denn ich halte es nicht für repräsentativ für den Artikel (es ist gestellt und überhaupt, welche Frau geht denn schon *so* auf die Toilette, wage ich mal zu vermuten). Mir gefällt auch deine Praxis nicht, Fotos in möglichst prominente Themenartikel gezielt zu platzieren, um sich selbst zu bewerben und ohne wirklich zu schauen, ob sie dort jeweils auch nötig sind. Allerdings habe ich bei diesem Thema im Moment nicht vor, Widerstand zu leisten, und stelle es dir anheim, das Bild wieder einzufügen. --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241025220900-Mitumial-20241025145800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241025220900-Mitumial-20241025145800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241025220900-Mitumial-20241025145800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Marburg_asv2022-02_img06_Reitgasse.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Marburg_asv2022-02_img06_Reitgasse.jpg-20241103173700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Marburg_asv2022-02_img06_Reitgasse.jpg-20241103173700"></span>Marburg asv2022-02 img06 Reitgasse.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Marburg_asv2022-02_img06_Reitgasse.jpg-20241103173700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Marburg asv2022-02 img06 Reitgasse.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241103173700-Marburg_asv2022-02_img06_Reitgasse.jpg"></span>Hallo, ich hatte dein obiges Foto entdeckt und in die von mir neu erstellte Kategorie Buchhandlung N.G. Elwert mit aufgenommen, nachdem ich ein Bildnis des Buchhändlers Noa Gottfried Elwert entdeckt hatte. Jetzt sehe ich, dass du diese Änderung zurückgenommen hast. Darf ich fragen, was für dich als Urheber des Bildes der Buchhandlung in Marburg dagegen spricht, dein Foto mit in die eigens für diese traditionsreiche Buchhandlung erstellte Kategorie mit aufzunehmen? Danke für deine Antwort. <small class="autosigned" lang="en" dir="ltr">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Commons:Signatures" title="Commons:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <bdi><a href="/wiki/User:Haendelfan" title="User:Haendelfan">Haendelfan</a></bdi> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Haendelfan" title="User talk:Haendelfan">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Haendelfan" title="Special:Contributions/Haendelfan">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>Bitte signiere deine Beiträge zukünftig, sonst antworte ich nicht. Zur Frage: Ich habe nichts gegen eine separate Kategorie, das Problem ist nur, dass du <a href="/wiki/Category:Buchhandlung_N.G._Elwert" title="Category:Buchhandlung N.G. Elwert">diese Kategorie</a> dauernd versuchst anzulegen, obwohl sie verwaist ist. Unter der Hilfeseite <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories" title="Commons:Categories">COM:Categories</a> kannst du nachlesen, wie man Kategorien korrekt anlegt. So wie du das tust, nützt sie nichts und niemandem und ist daher schnellzulöschen. MfG --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241103173700-Marburg_asv2022-02_img06_Reitgasse.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241103173700-Marburg_asv2022-02_img06_Reitgasse.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241103173700-Marburg_asv2022-02_img06_Reitgasse.jpg"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg-20241106114800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg-20241106114800"></span>File:Hennickendorf Gartenstadt lub 2024-06-23.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg-20241106114800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: File:Hennickendorf Gartenstadt lub 2024-06-23.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20241106114800-File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg"></span>Hallo Alex. Mein <a href="/wiki/File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg" title="File:Hennickendorf Gartenstadt lub 2024-06-23.jpg">Bild</a> hat irgendwie einen komischen <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Pages using the JsonConfig extension (page does not exist)">Rotlink</a> einer eigentlich gelöschten und leeren Seite. Weißt du, warum dieser dort steht und was er bedeutet? Gruß <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20241106114800-File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20241106114800-File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20241106114800-File:Hennickendorf_Gartenstadt_lub_2024-06-23.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241106222400-L._Beck-20241106114800"></span>Hi Lukas, also ich sehe dort Stand jetzt keinen solchen Rotlink. LG --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241106222400-L._Beck-20241106114800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241106222400-L._Beck-20241106114800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241106222400-L._Beck-20241106114800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20241110210900-A.Savin-20241106222400"></span>Danke für deine Rückmeldung. Ich habe dir zu dem Thema eine E-Mail geschickt. Viele Grüße <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20241110210900-A.Savin-20241106222400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20241110210900-A.Savin-20241106222400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20241110210900-A.Savin-20241106222400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Belle_foto" data-mw-thread-id="h-Belle_foto-20241113094300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Belle_foto-20241113094300"></span>Belle foto<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Belle_foto-20241113094300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Belle foto"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-192.167.110.12-20241113094300-Belle_foto"></span>Ciao <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/192.167.110.12" title="Special:Contributions/192.167.110.12">192.167.110.12</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-192.167.110.12-20241113094300-Belle_foto" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-192.167.110.12-20241113094300-Belle_foto"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-192.167.110.12-20241113094300-Belle_foto"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mal_so_als_Idee" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mal_so_als_Idee-20241116152100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mal_so_als_Idee-20241116152100"></span>Mal so als Idee<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mal_so_als_Idee-20241116152100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Mal so als Idee"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Category:Dorfkirche_(R%C3%BCdersdorf_bei_Berlin)" title="Category:Dorfkirche (Rüdersdorf bei Berlin)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20241116152100-Mal_so_als_Idee"></span>Category:Dorfkirche (Rüdersdorf bei Berlin)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20241116152100-Mal_so_als_Idee" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20241116152100-Mal_so_als_Idee"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20241116152100-Mal_so_als_Idee"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Oberbaumbrücke_3.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Oberbaumbrücke_3.jpg-20241119194700"><span id="File:Oberbaumbr.C3.BCcke_3.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Oberbaumbrücke_3.jpg-20241119194700"></span><a href="/wiki/File:Oberbaumbr%C3%BCcke_3.jpg" title="File:Oberbaumbrücke 3.jpg">File:Oberbaumbrücke 3.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Oberbaumbrücke_3.jpg-20241119194700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: File:Oberbaumbrücke 3.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20241119194700-File:Oberbaumbrücke_3.jpg"></span>Hallo Alex, könnte das nach deiner Einschätzung nach ein urheberrechtlich schützenswertes Kunstwerk sein? Gruß <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20241119194700-File:Oberbaumbrücke_3.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20241119194700-File:Oberbaumbrücke_3.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20241119194700-File:Oberbaumbrücke_3.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241119230200-L._Beck-20241119194700"></span>Ja, das könnte es... --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241119230200-L._Beck-20241119194700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241119230200-L._Beck-20241119194700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241119230200-L._Beck-20241119194700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Russian_Embassy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Russian_Embassy"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Russian_Embassy"></span>Russian Embassy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Russian_Embassy"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Russian Embassy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Not the main facade, but it is the same building built at the same time by the same architects. You could create a sub-category inside <a href="/wiki/Category:Building_of_the_Russian_Embassy,_Berlin_(1953%E2%80%93)" title="Category:Building of the Russian Embassy, Berlin (1953–)">Category:Building of the Russian Embassy, Berlin (1953–)</a> for the specific facade if you like, but please keep them inside the category. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Quality_Image_Promotion_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Quality_Image_Promotion_3-20241119164300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Quality_Image_Promotion_3-20241119164300"></span>Quality Image Promotion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Quality_Image_Promotion_3-20241119164300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Quality Image Promotion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div 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Good quality. --<a href="/wiki/User:%D0%95%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%91%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="User:Екатерина Борисова">Екатерина Борисова</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-Екатерина_Борисова-20241121001500-Quality_Image_Promotion_4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Екатерина_Борисова-20241121001500-Quality_Image_Promotion_4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Екатерина_Борисова-20241121001500-Quality_Image_Promotion_4"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QICbot-20241123053500-Quality_Image_Promotion_4"></span>--<a href="/wiki/User:QICbot" title="User:QICbot">QICbot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QICbot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:QICbot"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-QICbot-20241123053500-Quality_Image_Promotion_4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:35, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QICbot-20241123053500-Quality_Image_Promotion_4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QICbot-20241123053500-Quality_Image_Promotion_4"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikidata_Objekte_löschen" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikidata_Objekte_löschen-20241124103500"><span id="Wikidata_Objekte_l.C3.B6schen"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikidata_Objekte_löschen-20241124103500"></span>Wikidata Objekte löschen<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikidata_Objekte_löschen-20241124103500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.Savin&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: Wikidata Objekte löschen"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20241124103500-Wikidata_Objekte_löschen"></span>Guten Morgen Alex, weißt du etwas darüber, wie Wikidata Objekte gelöscht werden können, wenn diese zum Beispiel doppelt angelegt wurden. Konkret würde ich gerne diese, bereits von mir geleerte Seite löschen: <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q31559436">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q31559436</a>. Sie war doppelt zu diesem Objekt: <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20479143">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20479143</a>. Gruß <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. Beck"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-L._Beck-20241124103500-Wikidata_Objekte_löschen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L._Beck-20241124103500-Wikidata_Objekte_löschen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L._Beck-20241124103500-Wikidata_Objekte_löschen"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-20241124133200-L._Beck-20241124103500"></span>Ja, habe manchmal auch so ein Problem. Ich mache das dann über Zusammenführungen (Merge with-Knopf), wobei von der alten ID ein Redirect verbleibt. Löschen können nur die dortigen Admins, weiß aber nicht ob sie das auch machen auf Anfrage. LG --<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A.Savin#c-A.Savin-20241124133200-L._Beck-20241124103500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-20241124133200-L._Beck-20241124103500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-20241124133200-L._Beck-20241124103500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L._Beck-20241124134400-A.Savin-20241124133200"></span>Könntest du es mal mit dem Zusammenführen probieren und kennst du einen Admin, der dort gerne helfen könnte? <a href="/wiki/User:L._Beck" title="User:L. Beck">Lukas Beck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L._Beck" title="User talk:L. 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