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[edit] Useful links: subpage list • transclusions • redirects Shortcut: <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:synonyms#top" title="Template:synonyms">syn</a>}}</code> This template shows a line with synonyms. It's intended to be used below each definition, after any usage examples or quotes: </p> <ol><li>Capable of <a href="/wiki/produce" title="produce">producing</a> great physical <a href="/wiki/force" title="force">force</a>. <dl><dd><div class="h-usage-example"><i class="Latn mention e-example" lang="en">This person is very <b>strong</b>.</i></div></dd> <dd><span class="nyms synonym"><span class="defdate">Synonym:</span> <span class="Latn" lang="en"><a href="/wiki/powerful#English" title="powerful">powerful</a></span></span></dd></dl></li></ol> <p>The template is implemented through Module:nyms. </p><p>ParametersEdit |1= The language code (see Wiktionary:Languages) of the language whose sense this appears under. |2=, |3=, |4=, ... One or more synonyms to be listed. |alt1=, |alt2=, |alt3=, ... Link text for each of the synonyms, if = different from the entry name. |tr1=, |tr2=, |tr3=, ... If necessar== Definition === = to the original definition that it was given - a word with a similar meaning. "It is now universally recognized that no exact synonyms exist in a given language... Synonyms are words either of which <i>in one or other of its acceptations</i> can <i>sometimes</i> be substituted for the other without affecting the meaning" (<i>Fowler's Modern English Usage</i>); "usually ...having the same general sense, but possessing each of them meanings which are not shared by the other, or having different shades of meaning or implications appropriate to different contexts" (Oxford English Dictionary). We shouldn't use the word "synonym" to mean words of identical meaning, because the word "synonym" would become useless. In common use, the word "synonym" means a word of broadly similar meaning. <i>Roget's Thesaurus</i> includes "indicator, index, pointer, arrow", and "fireworks, illuminations, pyrotechnics"; "luminescent, luminous, incandescent, shining"; "glimmer, flicker, flash". These are (most people would accept) groups of synonyms, but they don't (I would argue) have "very nearly" the same meaning. <a href="/wiki/User:Amatlexico" title="User:Amatlexico">Amatlexico</a> 17 Nov 2003 20:58 UTC </p> <dl><dd>Well, what's with translations? E.g. the German translation "gleichbedeutendes Wort" means "word which has the same meaning as another" and not just "word with a similar meaning as another". So maybe how about having both definitions, like: <i>sensu stricto (strict sense): a word which has the same meaning as another; sensu lato: a word which has the same or a similar meaning as another</i>? -IP, 19:55, 26 April 2015 (UTC)~</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>That may be what "gleichbedeutendes Wort" <i>literally</i> means, but Amatlexico's point about synonyms never being 100% exact is presumably true in German as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Equinox" title="User:Equinox">Equinox</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Equinox" title="User talk:Equinox">◑</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Template_talk:syn#c-Equinox-2015-04-26T20:01:00.000Z-Synonyms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 26 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Equinox-2015-04-26T20:01:00.000Z-Synonyms"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Equinox-2015-04-26T20:01:00.000Z-Synonyms"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Opt2mistic1-2018-06-13T05:54:00.000Z-Synonyms"></span>There are several different terms in German: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/gleichbedeutend" title="gleichbedeutend">gleichbedeutendes</a>/<a href="/wiki/bedeutungsgleich" title="bedeutungsgleich">bedeutungsgleiches</a>/<a href="/w/index.php?title=sinngleich&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="sinngleich (page does not exist)">sinngleiches</a> <a href="/wiki/Wort" title="Wort">Wort</a> = Synonym[um] (at least traditionally) - word which has the same meaning as another</li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=bedeutungs%C3%A4hnlich&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="bedeutungsähnlich (page does not exist)">bedeutungsähnliches</a>/<a href="/w/index.php?title=bedeutungsverwandt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="bedeutungsverwandt (page does not exist)">bedeutungsverwandtes</a>/<a href="/w/index.php?title=sinn%C3%A4hnlich&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="sinnähnlich (page does not exist)">sinnähnliches</a>/<a href="/wiki/sinnverwandt" title="sinnverwandt">sinnverwandtes</a> Wort = Synonym (sometimes in modern books &c. and maybe "Synonym" is sometimes also used for phrases) - word which has a similar (including: the same) meaning as another</li> <li>zeno.org/Brockhaus-1809/A/Synonim (dated/obsolete spelling): "Synonim (eigentlich richtiger Synonym) [...] Wort, das mit einem oder mehreren andern eine gleiche Bedeutung hat" -- that is: Synonim - word which has the same meaning as another. Of course, "Synonim" might have also been used for "... similar meaning ...", but I've never found any citation for that (though I haven't really searched).</li></ul></dd> <dd>It might be difficult to decide whether two words have the same or just a similar meaning, and there might be different opinions whether two words have the same or just a similar meaning, but: When an author defines "synonym = word which has the same meaning as another" and then calles two words synonym, then at least he _thinks_ that they have the same meaning (even though they might be somewhat different or different in the mind of other persons). So this meaning/definition does at least reveal something more atbout the author's view.</dd> <dd>-IP, 20:53, 26 April 2015 (UTC) transliteration for each of the synonyms, some languages are done automatically.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>|q1=, |q2=, |q3=, ... If necessary, qualifiers for each of the synonyms. 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