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The result of <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1237922747#Requested_move_19_June_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1237922747">the discussion</a> was <b>no consensus</b>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thameslink_core" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thameslink_core-2018-01-15T16:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thameslink_core-2018-01-15T16:15:00.000Z"></span>Thameslink core<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thameslink_core-2018-01-15T16:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Thameslink core"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Turini2-2018-01-15T16:15:00.000Z-Thameslink_core"></span>Given the key status (and importance) of Thameslink core stations - is it worth separating them out in this table? (St Pancras International - Farringdon - City Thameslink - Blackfriars - London Bridge(?) ) <a href="/wiki/User:Turini2" title="User:Turini2">Turini2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turini2" title="User talk:Turini2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations#c-Turini2-2018-01-15T16:15:00.000Z-Thameslink_core" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 15 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Turini2-2018-01-15T16:15:00.000Z-Thameslink_core"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Turini2-2018-01-15T16:15:00.000Z-Thameslink_core"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move_19_June_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_19_June_2024-20240619235400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_19_June_2024-20240619235400"></span>Requested move 19 June 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_19_June_2024-20240619235400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Requested move 19 June 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color: var(--background-color-success-subtle, #efe); color: var(--color-base, #000); margin: 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted var(--border-color-subtle, #AAAAAA);"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SafariScribe-20240814211300-Requested_move_19_June_2024"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color: var(--color-error, red);"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a> after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>no consensus.</b> There is neither a move nor no move consensus. The community consensus is to split, hence a split request should be initiated. <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Closure_by_a_page_mover" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">closed by non-admin page mover</a>)</small> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:SafariScribe" title="User:SafariScribe">Safari Scribe</a></span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SafariScribe" title="Special:Contributions/SafariScribe"><i><b>Edits!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SafariScribe" title="User talk:SafariScribe"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations#c-SafariScribe-20240814211300-Requested_move_19_June_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SafariScribe-20240814211300-Requested_move_19_June_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SafariScribe-20240814211300-Requested_move_19_June_2024"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Template:TSGN_and_SE_Stations" title="Template:TSGN and SE Stations"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JalenFolf-20240619235400-Requested_move_19_June_2024"></span>Template:TSGN and SE Stations</a> → <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Railway_stations_served_by_Govia_Thameslink_Railway&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink Railway (page does not exist)">Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink Railway</a> – While a move is required to remove the unnecessary caps in "Stations", the move will also make the naming convention of this template consistent with other TOC station templates, as indicated by the consensus reached at the RM at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Railway_stations_served_by_c2c" title="Template talk:Railway stations served by c2c">Template talk:Railway stations served by c2c</a>. The suggested title stems from the fact that Thameslink, Southern, and Great Northern are all a part of Govia Thameslink. At the same time, I'd like to request the Southeastern content be split into a new template called <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Railway_stations_served_by_Southeastern&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern (page does not exist)">Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern</a> for the same reasons. <a href="/wiki/User:JalenFolf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:JalenFolf"><span style="font-size:1.2em;font-family:eurofurence;background:#368ec9;color:white">Jalen Folf</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:JalenFolf" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:JalenFolf"><span style="background:#6babd6;color:black">(Bark[s])</span></a> 23:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC) <small>— <i><b>Relisting.</b></i> <a href="/wiki/User:Bensci54" title="User:Bensci54">Bensci54</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bensci54" title="User talk:Bensci54">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations#c-JalenFolf-20240619235400-Requested_move_19_June_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JalenFolf-20240619235400-Requested_move_19_June_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JalenFolf-20240619235400-Requested_move_19_June_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DankJae-20240620021900-JalenFolf-20240619235400"></span>Comment</b> are Southeastern and TSGN largely interconnected with each other? The template seems to have been formatted, so only specific services need to be shown when needed, so don't see the harm having it as one from a functional perspective. <a href="/wiki/Swanley_railway_station" title="Swanley railway station">Swanley railway station</a> for example uses both operators so uses both parts of the template. If that is a rarer case, there could be a possibility of a split, but note such a split would have to carry over all the formatting ideally. So the template isn't just two operators put together but more interconnected. May be a split should be raised separately. <b><a href="/wiki/User:DankJae" title="User:DankJae"><span style="color: black">Dank</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:DankJae" title="User talk:DankJae"><span style="color: red">Jae</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations#c-DankJae-20240620021900-JalenFolf-20240619235400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:19, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DankJae-20240620021900-JalenFolf-20240619235400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DankJae-20240620021900-JalenFolf-20240619235400"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Difficultly_north-20240620203700-JalenFolf-20240619235400"></span>This should really not be a requested move but a split request. <a href="/wiki/User:Difficultly_north" title="User:Difficultly north">Difficultly north</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Difficultly_north" title="User talk:Difficultly north">talk</a>) <small>Time, department skies</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations#c-Difficultly_north-20240620203700-JalenFolf-20240619235400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Difficultly_north-20240620203700-JalenFolf-20240619235400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Difficultly_north-20240620203700-JalenFolf-20240619235400"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Difficultly_north-20240627210600-Difficultly_north-20240620203700"></span>I should probably add I support the split in principle. <a href="/wiki/User:Difficultly_north" title="User:Difficultly north">Difficultly north</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Difficultly_north" title="User talk:Difficultly north">talk</a>) <small>Time, department skies</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations#c-Difficultly_north-20240627210600-Difficultly_north-20240620203700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Difficultly_north-20240627210600-Difficultly_north-20240620203700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Difficultly_north-20240627210600-Difficultly_north-20240620203700"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asukite-20240726150100-Difficultly_north-20240620203700"></span>Comment</b> Just a note for the closer - if this is to be considered a split discussion, this is transcluded on <a class="external text" href="https://templatecount.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=en&namespace=10&name=TSGN_and_SE_Stations#bottom">465 pages</a>, so there will be a little work in processing it.<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asukite" title="User talk:Asukite"><span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations#c-Asukite-20240726150100-Difficultly_north-20240620203700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asukite-20240726150100-Difficultly_north-20240620203700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asukite-20240726150100-Difficultly_north-20240620203700"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Split_proposal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Split_proposal-20240814224100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Split_proposal-20240814224100"></span>Split proposal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Split_proposal-20240814224100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Split proposal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JalenFolf-20240814224100-Split_proposal"></span>As per the discussion above, I would like to propose a split of this template into <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Railway_stations_served_by_Govia_Thameslink_railway&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink railway (page does not exist)">Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink railway</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Railway_stations_served_by_Southeastern&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern (page does not exist)">Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern</a>. Southeastern is an entirely separate TOC from Southern, Thameslink, and Great Northern, and it does not make sense to have both TOCs covered in one template, regardless of whether they serve the same area. <a href="/wiki/User:JalenFolf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:JalenFolf"><span style="font-size:1.2em;font-family:eurofurence;background:#368ec9;color:white">Jalen Folf</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:JalenFolf" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:JalenFolf"><span style="background:#6babd6;color:black">(Bark[s])</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations#c-JalenFolf-20240814224100-Split_proposal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JalenFolf-20240814224100-Split_proposal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JalenFolf-20240814224100-Split_proposal"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations&oldid=1240344411">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:TSGN_and_SE_Stations&oldid=1240344411</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-Class_rail_transport_articles" title="Category:NA-Class rail transport articles">NA-Class rail transport articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_rail_transport_articles" title="Category:NA-importance rail transport articles">NA-importance rail transport articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-Class_Stations_articles" title="Category:NA-Class Stations articles">NA-Class Stations articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Stations_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Stations articles">WikiProject Stations articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-Class_UK_Railways_articles" title="Category:NA-Class UK Railways articles">NA-Class UK Railways articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_UK_Railways_articles" title="Category:NA-importance UK Railways articles">NA-importance UK Railways articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:All_WikiProject_Trains_pages" title="Category:All WikiProject Trains pages">All WikiProject Trains pages</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 14 August 2024, at 22:41<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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