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It's one of many surprises that can await at the end of a vacation on the high seas.</p><p>For Laurie Markham, it was the booze tab for what she'd thought had been a fairly conservative glass of wine with dinner and the occasional cocktail for her husband and herself.</p><p>For Dianne Tan, it was the gratuities and soda pop cards for her two teenagers. And for Carole Round, it was the high-priced haircuts and pedicures in the onboard salon.</p><p>"What I think is the single biggest problem where cruise costs are concerned is that people talk about it as an all-inclusive vacation," says Carolyn Spencer Brown, editor of CruiseCritic.com. 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It was like one long sales pitch for the&#160;entire cruise. Jewellry, art, trinkets, extra charges for almost everything onboard, attending info sessions on different ports of call that are just sales pitches for onshore shops that the cruise companies and directors obviously have kick back agreements with. About the only thing that seemed to be included on the 'all-inclusive cruise' was basic food and a nightly show. We bought an expensive ($500) spa package for the 'length of the cruise'&#160; only to discover that it was only for a 'segment' of our cruise and was invalid for the last week of the cruise. The best things about the cruise were the ports of call which are there with or without the cruise line.</p> <p>&#160;I can think of so many better ways to spend $10,000 + on a vacation for than a cruise. </p></div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=86&amp;tid=1410089&amp;pty=0&amp;par=34954261&amp;cid=bpbtibqmfsqwwwkw5ckiauqe574h0j6w&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=1&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb1" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb1',34954261,6994795);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFrAlt"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst34997575" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=86&amp;UserID=13556264&amp;md=ic">LastCall123</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #2</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">December 4, 2009 4:59:50 PM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">Worst value for money in my opinion. Have taken two cruises and would never have taken the second except that my wife wanted to. Everything is an additional cost plus they add as much as a 15% gratuity onto the prices. But the thing I dislike most about cruises is the pressure to leave a gratuity to everyone and their uncle at the end of the cruise. Will not be taking another cruise regardless of what the wife wants.</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=86&amp;tid=1410089&amp;pty=0&amp;par=34997575&amp;cid=bpbtibqmfsqwwwkw5ckiauqe574h0j6w&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=1&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb2" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb2',34997575,13556264);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFr"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst34997832" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=86&amp;UserID=11865884&amp;md=ic">4NAK8TR </a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #3</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">December 4, 2009 5:15:19 PM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">Go on the smaller cruise ships ..Stay away from Carnival period!!they own most of the cruise lines. The push for Balconies etc etc has driven passengers to stay in their cabins not use the decks to suntan etc. This is why they are pushing the sales sales sales!!its actually quite irritating to say the least. I was on Holland America on an Alaska cruise, I would never go on them again period. the cruise line industry has replaced most of its ships, guess what we will be paying more for the cruise in extras, and thats not fair!!So cruise on the older but clean ships and you wont get the pesty staff pushing you into things you dont want or unexpected charges in the end....</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=86&amp;tid=1410089&amp;pty=0&amp;par=34997832&amp;cid=bpbtibqmfsqwwwkw5ckiauqe574h0j6w&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=1&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb3" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb3',34997832,11865884);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFrAlt"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst35005344" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=86&amp;UserID=13120690&amp;md=ic">camperdave</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #4</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">December 5, 2009 7:30:37 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en"><p>???</p> <p>Been on 8-9 cruises and just finished cruise on NCL yesterday. All fabulous. Sure they cost-but does no one think about this before they sign up? $600 blackberry bill? Did they think it would be free? Haircut on board? Would you not do this prior to taking your cruise? Pop for the teens-most cruise lines charge $6.&#160;a day for unlimited pop. The way my kids drink the stuff that's a bargain. I agree-cruising is not the most inexpensive vacation, but I do not think they are promoted that way. If your goal is to spend the least amount of money I would suggest an all-inclusive to Cuba or DR. We had a great time and overall the NCL staff were polite, friendly and not in the least pushy, just doing their job!&#160; Plus...bonus have met some wonderful new folks that we will be sure to stay in touch with for years to come.&#160; Definitely will go again! </p></div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=86&amp;tid=1410089&amp;pty=0&amp;par=35005344&amp;cid=bpbtibqmfsqwwwkw5ckiauqe574h0j6w&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=1&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb4" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb4',35005344,13120690);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFr"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst35016836" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=86&amp;UserID=13563081&amp;md=ic">Bob 9999</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #5</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">December 6, 2009 3:20:27 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">I really don't know what some of the people are talking about. We have been on two cruise's and have never felt pressured into buying any thing we did not want. As with what the last person said, why get a hair cut on board the boat. Get it cut before if need be, I don't think it will grow that fast in a couple of weeks. As for spending all your time sitting in front of a slot machine, if that what you like you be better off going to Vegas. There are to many other things to see and do on the boat. I do agree with one thing though. There should not be a blanket&#160; gratuity at the end of the trip. You should be able to tip who ever you feel deservers it.</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=86&amp;tid=1410089&amp;pty=0&amp;par=35016836&amp;cid=bpbtibqmfsqwwwkw5ckiauqe574h0j6w&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=1&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb5" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb5',35016836,13563081);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFrAlt"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst35022780" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=86&amp;UserID=4692&amp;md=ic">marko1965</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #6</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">December 6, 2009 2:45:06 PM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">On our first cruise I was surprised by the sales tactics but you can easily ignore them and still have a great cruise.&#160; But avoid cruise lines such as Royal Caribbean who are unresponsive to shipboard problems.&#160; We had booked a romance package that didn't come when it should have and when it did there were missing components (cheap carnations instead of the roses we'd paid for) and mold on strawberries.&#160; When I took time out of my cruise to complain, Royal Caribbean&#160;couldn't make it right until they spoke to "Miami" and finally after 4 days of hounding them they said what they had supplied was "close enough" and to not bother them any more.&#160; Trust me, this is more of a holiday wrecker than a few soda salesmen.</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=86&amp;tid=1410089&amp;pty=0&amp;par=35022780&amp;cid=bpbtibqmfsqwwwkw5ckiauqe574h0j6w&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=1&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb6" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb6',35022780,4692);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFr"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst35335351" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=86&amp;UserID=13637809&amp;md=ic">jasond1234</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #7</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">December 18, 2009 11:26:50 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en"><p>We absolutely love cruising.&#160; However, we are aware of the extra charges involved with it.&#160;The sticker price is not what the price actually is.&#160; We are very careful to limit our excess, but we do budget for it before we leave. &#160;We do purchase the nonstop pop cards as it is a bargain for us, who drink pop like it's going out of style.&#160; But we try to limit our alcoholic drinks to 1 per day (or less) and if we gamble - $20 a day maximum.&#160; Plus, we have never eaten in the specialty restaurants.&#160; The regular dining is just fine with us.</p> <p>&#160;</p> <p>As for tipping, you do not have to tip everybody on board.&#160; You should tip the people that take care of you though.&#160; Your room steward and waiter for sure.&#160; These people are from 3rd world countries and they rely on tips as their wages.&#160; I realize that some cruise lines automatically charge your room for tips, but if you are not happy with that - go to the pursers desk and have them remove the charges.</p> <p>&#160;</p> <p>But I can see where people go overboard.&#160; You are around a lot of people, you want to fit in and you buy a round of drinks here or there, or play a few extra hands of black jack.</p> <p>&#160;</p> <p>&#160;</p></div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20091225184112/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=86&amp;tid=1410089&amp;pty=0&amp;par=35335351&amp;cid=bpbtibqmfsqwwwkw5ckiauqe574h0j6w&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=1&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb7" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb7',35335351,13637809);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div style=" display:block;" class="iucPagPnl iucCf iucPagPnlBot" id="ucpgB"><div class="iucChild iucC1"><input type="hidden"/></div><div class="iucChild iucC2">1-7 of 7</div><div class="iucChild iucC3"><span class="iucPrev iucPrevHidden"><a class="iucHdLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Previous_Click');" href="">Previous</a></span><span class="iucNext iucNextHidden"><a class="iucHdLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Next_Click');" href="">Next</a></span></div></div><script type="text/javascript">_ucf13('0'); 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