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data-quote="Reynold" data-source="post: 43338148" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/civis/goto/post?id=43338148" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-43338148">Reynold said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I have not seen a launch (yet), but discussions I have seen from the Youtuber Ellie in Space and on NSF forums say that a multi-hour wait to get out of the Isla Blanca parking lot and back across the bridge after a launch is common. I saw the lots in the area when I visited Boca Chica a few weeks before a launch, and I could believe it. <br /> <br /> Best bet is to get a hotel room in walking distance of the park and walk to the park for a launch rather than drive, or plan to stay at the Rocket Ranch closer to the launch site and reserve one of their 2 rooms early or plan on camping/RVing there. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I watched a few of the early belly-flops from SH48 that ran along the shipping canal. There are spots where you can see the tower. It's only about 2km further away from the closest spots further in, and you're right on the highway, so traffic isn't a problem. Be cautious though. People are idiots, and target fixation is a thing. Park well away from the road, and then sit further away with some distance between you and your car. 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