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href="https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Kafi%C4%87/Jezi%C4%8Dna_pitanja" title="Wikipedija:Kafić/Jezična pitanja – Kroasia" lang="hr" hreflang="hr" data-title="Wikipedija:Kafić/Jezična pitanja" data-language-autonym="Hrvatski" data-language-local-name="Kroasia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Hrvatski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hu mw-list-item"><a href="https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Kocsmafal_(nyelvi)" title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal (nyelvi) – Hungaria" lang="hu" hreflang="hu" data-title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal (nyelvi)" data-language-autonym="Magyar" data-language-local-name="Hungaria" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Magyar</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-id mw-list-item"><a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Bahasa) – Indonesia" lang="id" hreflang="id" data-title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Bahasa)" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Indonesia" 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hreflang="sr" data-title="Википедија:Трг/Правописна питања" data-language-autonym="Српски / srpski" data-language-local-name="Serbia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Српски / srpski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-th mw-list-item"><a href="https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2:%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%89%E0%B8%B2-%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%8A%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B2/%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%B2" title="วิกิพีเดีย:ปุจฉา-วิสัชนา/ภาษา – Thai" lang="th" hreflang="th" data-title="วิกิพีเดีย:ปุจฉา-วิสัชนา/ภาษา" data-language-autonym="ไทย" data-language-local-name="Thai" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ไทย</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tt mw-list-item"><a href="https://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80" title="Википедия:Хаталар – Tatar" lang="tt" hreflang="tt" data-title="Википедия:Хаталар" data-language-autonym="Татарча / tatarça" data-language-local-name="Tatar" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Татарча / tatarça</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uk mw-list-item"><a href="https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%94%D0%BA%D1%82:%D0%93%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C" title="Вікіпедія:Проєкт:Грамотність – Ukraina" lang="uk" hreflang="uk" data-title="Вікіпедія:Проєкт:Грамотність" data-language-autonym="Українська" data-language-local-name="Ukraina" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Українська</span></a></li> </ul> <div class="after-portlet after-portlet-lang"><span class="wb-langlinks-edit wb-langlinks-link"><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityPage/Q3906960#sitelinks-wikipedia" title="Édit tutumbu antarbasa" class="wbc-editpage">Édit tutumbu</a></span></div> </div> </div> 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href="https://su.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&action=edit">édit</a></span></li></ul> </div></div> <table style="margin: 0 auto 0.5em; width: 100%; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse; border: 2px solid #4682B4; border-top: 0px; background: #eeeef8; text-align: center;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="padding: 0.5em; text-align: left;"><table class="shortcutbox shortcutbox-policy noprint" style="float: right; margin: .3em .3em .3em 1em; border: 1px solid #aaa; background: #fff; padding: 3px; text-align: center; font-size:80%"><tbody><tr><th style="border: none; background: transparent;" class="plainlist"><span id="WP:SB"></span><span id="WP:SBASA"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Takulan" title="Wikipedia:Takulan">Takulan</a>: <ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://su.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SB&redirect=no">WP:SB </a></span></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SBASA&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:SBASA (kaca can aya)">WP:SBASA</a></li></ul> </th></tr></tbody></table> Kaca sawala bagian <b>basa</b> digunakeun pikeun nyawalakeun hal-hal ngeunaan kabasaan, sarta mermanakeun masalah anu patula-patalian jeung pamakéan basa Sunda anu anteb tur merenah. Bahasa Sunda di Wikipedia nyekel palanggeran kana éjahan anu disampurnakeun. <p>Lian ti kitu, anu jadi andelkeuneun téh nyaéta kapahung dina milah-milah kecap, boh kecap serepan, kecap ahéng sarta panyaluyuan kecap tarjamahan jeung kana kecap Sundana sorangan. </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td><div class="mw-inputbox-centered" style=""><form name="searchbox" class="searchbox mw-inputbox-form-inline" action="/wiki/Husus:Sungsi"><div class="cdx-text-input"><input class="mw-searchInput searchboxInput cdx-text-input__input" name="search" placeholder="" size="50" dir="ltr"/></div><input type="hidden" value="Wikipedia:Sawala" name="prefix"/> <input type="submit" name="fulltext" value="Sungsi sawala jeung arsipna" class="cdx-button"/><input type="hidden" value="Search" name="fulltext"/></form></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <p><span id="below_toc"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Penyanyi,_panyanyi,_panembang,_tukang_ngawih,_sinden?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Penyanyi,_panyanyi,_panembang,_tukang_ngawih,_sinden?-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z"><span id="Penyanyi.2C_panyanyi.2C_panembang.2C_tukang_ngawih.2C_sinden.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Penyanyi,_panyanyi,_panembang,_tukang_ngawih,_sinden?-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z"></span>Penyanyi, panyanyi, panembang, tukang ngawih, sinden?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Penyanyi,_panyanyi,_panembang,_tukang_ngawih,_sinden?-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&action=edit&section=1" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Penyanyi, panyanyi, panembang, tukang ngawih, sinden?"><span>édit sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z-Penyanyi,_panyanyi,_panembang,_tukang_ngawih,_sinden?"></span>Basa Sunda nu pas sareng ilahar keur penyanyi naon nya? Penyanyi, panyanyi, panembang, tukang ngawih, sinden? --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Tedi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Obrolan pamaké:Mssetiadi">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z-Penyanyi,_panyanyi,_panembang,_tukang_ngawih,_sinden?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2015 00.58 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z-Penyanyi,_panyanyi,_panembang,_tukang_ngawih,_sinden?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z-Penyanyi,_panyanyi,_panembang,_tukang_ngawih,_sinden?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z"></span>Pami nyanyi mah kecap dina basa Indonésia, pami ningal kana kamus RA. Danadibrata mah sigana kecap anu cocok téh tukang ngawih/pangawih, sabab ari kawih mah sora lalaguan jalma anu teu aya pupuhna sedengkeun ari tembang mah aya pupuhna.--<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19"><b><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#">Yusup_Ramdani</font></b></a> <a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Obrolan pamaké:Uchup19"><font color="#">✉</font></a> <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2015 02.20 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T00:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T02:57:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z"></span>Tah muhun kitu rupina saiyah oge sapamadegan Kang. Pami araya waktos mah kedah diaralihkeun artikelna sareng dihiji-hijikeun kategorina --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Tedi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Obrolan pamaké:Mssetiadi">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T02:57:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2015 02.57 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T02:57:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T02:57:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T03:00:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z"></span>okéh kang, siap. Tapi saéna <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pangawih&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pangawih (kaca can aya)">Pangawih</a> atawa <a href="/w/index.php?title=Tukang_ngawih&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tukang ngawih (kaca can aya)">Tukang ngawih</a>?--<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19"><b><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#">Yusup_Ramdani</font></b></a> <a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Obrolan pamaké:Uchup19"><font color="#">✉</font></a> <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T03:00:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2015 03.00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T03:00:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T03:00:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T02:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T04:50:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T03:00:00.000Z"></span>Ah kumaha atuh nya. Dina basa Sunda mah, aya nu disebut sinden atanapi juru kawih, nya éta tukang ngawih tea. Ari pangawih mah dipilari dina google oge mung sakedik nu nganggona. Ari disebat sinden, atu da asa mung kanggo gamelan wungkul nya. Maenya aya sinden rock and roll mah? Tapi margi kedah aya istilah nu dianggo, simkuring mah panuju keneh disebat tukang ngawih atanapi juru kawih --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Tedi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Obrolan pamaké:Mssetiadi">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T04:50:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T03:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2015 04.50 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T04:50:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T03:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T04:50:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T03:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T04:56:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T04:50:00.000Z"></span>Atuh urang antosan heula, bilihna aya kedalan ti nu sanés. Colék kang <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">Ilham</a>.--<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19"><b><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#">Yusup_Ramdani</font></b></a> <a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Obrolan pamaké:Uchup19"><font color="#">✉</font></a> <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T04:56:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T04:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2015 04.56 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T04:56:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T04:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T04:56:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-07-09T04:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-07-09T14:10:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T04:56:00.000Z"></span>Ari numutkeun kamus R. Danadibrata mah aya kecap "nyanyi" téh nyaéta serepan tina basa Indonesia, anu disatatakeun sareng istilah "nembang, ngawih, sok disebut ogé 'manyanyi'" cenah. Mung tangtos kedah diluyukeun sareng konteks. Ari kawih sareng tembang ogé bénten deuih hartosna. Anu ngahaleuangkeun <a href="/w/index.php?title=Tembang&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tembang (kaca can aya)">tembang</a> moal disebut juru kawih, tapi panembang atanapi juru tembang. Upami anu ngahaleuangkeun kawih moal disebut juru tembang deuih, tapi juru kawih, atanapi "sindén". Malah istilah sindén langkung condong kanggo juru kawih anu ngahaleuangkeun "sisindiran" dina kawihna. Kitu deui tukang <a href="/wiki/Beluk" title="Beluk">ngabeluk</a>, pan ngahaleuangkeun sora ogé, janten kumaha atuh? Numutkeun simkuring, supados tiasa dianggo dina kontéks seni sora umum, istilah "panyanyi" rupina tiasa dianggo (kapan teu tiasa dipungkir yén istilah serepan/basa kosta téh nyampak dina basa Sunda), di sagédéngeun aya istilah "ngawih" "nembang", "nyindén" dina kontéks lokal Sunda. Kinten-kinten janten sapertos kieu kategorina: <ul><li><b>Panyanyi</b>: <ul><li>Juru tembang / tukang nembang</li> <li>Juru kawih / tukang ngawih <ul><li>Sindén</li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></dd> <dd>Cag. --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">ilhamkang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Obrolan pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-07-09T14:10:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T04:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2015 14.10 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-07-09T14:10:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T04:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-07-09T14:10:00.000Z-Uchup19-2015-07-09T04:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T15:51:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-07-09T14:10:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Enya"><img alt="Enya" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><span style="display:none">Y</span> Satuju.--<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19"><b><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#">Yusup_Ramdani</font></b></a> <a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Obrolan pamaké:Uchup19"><font color="#">✉</font></a> <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T15:51:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-07-09T14:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9 Juli 2015 15.51 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T15:51:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-07-09T14:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uchup19-2015-07-09T15:51:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-07-09T14:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sains_atawa_élmu?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sains_atawa_élmu?-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z"><span id="Sains_atawa_.C3.A9lmu.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sains_atawa_élmu?-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z"></span>Sains atawa élmu?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sains_atawa_élmu?-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&action=edit&section=2" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Sains atawa élmu?"><span>édit sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z-Sains_atawa_élmu?"></span>Para wargi, naon bédana ari <b>élmu</b> sareng <b>sains</b>? simkuring nuju ngarapihkeun <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kategori:Sains&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kategori:Sains (kaca can aya)">Kategori:Sains</a> anu eusina pacorok antara <b>sains</b> & <b>élmu</b>. Sangkan kategorina merenah, sigana mending dicandak salah sahiji istilah. Badé nu mana kinten-kinten? <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">Kumincir</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19">Uchup19</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">A.R Dipusparaga</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Sopianwar" title="Pamaké:Sopianwar">Sopianwar</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Mssetiadi</a>. Diantos tanggapanna. --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">ilhamkang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Obrolan pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z-Sains_atawa_élmu?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 Séptémber 2015 10.52 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z-Sains_atawa_élmu?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z-Sains_atawa_élmu?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-18T02:33:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z"></span>Saparantos maca definisi élmu sareng sains tina kamus, numutkeun abi mah mending nganggo <b>élmu</b> waé nu ambahanana langkung lega. Margi luyu sareng definisisa, sains mah museur kana hal-hal nu sipatna fisik/ indrawi wungkul, sedengkeun nu namina élmu mah kan teu kawatesanan ku éta, tiasa ngawengku lahir, batin, dunya, ahérat jsb. Kitu sigana mah --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">A.R Dipusparaga</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Obrolan pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-18T02:33:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 Séptémber 2015 02.33 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-18T02:33:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-18T02:33:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-17T10:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kumincir-2015-09-18T07:29:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-18T02:33:00.000Z"></span>Ceuk uing mah sains ganti ku elmu, najan baheula asana aya nu ngabedakeun, mere conto 'elmu nyambel'. Heuheu --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">kumincir</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Obrolan pamaké:Kumincir">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Kumincir-2015-09-18T07:29:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-18T02:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 Séptémber 2015 07.29 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kumincir-2015-09-18T07:29:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-18T02:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kumincir-2015-09-18T07:29:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-18T02:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-18T10:17:00.000Z-Kumincir-2015-09-18T07:29:00.000Z"></span>Okéh sip! nuhun kana pamendakna. --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">ilhamkang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Obrolan pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-18T10:17:00.000Z-Kumincir-2015-09-18T07:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 Séptémber 2015 10.17 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-18T10:17:00.000Z-Kumincir-2015-09-18T07:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-18T10:17:00.000Z-Kumincir-2015-09-18T07:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sopianwar-2015-09-18T14:24:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-18T10:17:00.000Z"></span>Saterang abdi mah.. élmu mangrupa pangaweruh sacara umum, ku margi dicandak tina basa arab anu hartosna pangaweruh... ari sains mah bagian elmu anu tiasa dikembangkeun kumaha ayana pendakan anyar.. --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Sopianwar" title="Pamaké:Sopianwar">Sopianwar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Sopianwar" title="Obrolan pamaké:Sopianwar">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Sopianwar-2015-09-18T14:24:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-18T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 Séptémber 2015 14.24 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sopianwar-2015-09-18T14:24:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-18T10:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sopianwar-2015-09-18T14:24:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2015-09-18T10:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Negeri,_negri,_atawa_nagri?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Negeri,_negri,_atawa_nagri?-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z"><span id="Negeri.2C_negri.2C_atawa_nagri.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Negeri,_negri,_atawa_nagri?-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z"></span>Negeri, negri, atawa nagri?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Negeri,_negri,_atawa_nagri?-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&action=edit&section=3" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Negeri, negri, atawa nagri?"><span>édit sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z-Negeri,_negri,_atawa_nagri?"></span>Pami badé narjamahkeun perguruan tinggi negeri, menteri luar negeri, menteri dalam negeri sjb nganggé negeri, negri, atanapi nagri nya? Diantos tanggapanana <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">Kumincir</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19">Uchup19</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Sopianwar" title="Pamaké:Sopianwar">Sopianwar</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Mssetiadi</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">ilhamkang</a>. --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">A.R Dipusparaga</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Obrolan pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z-Negeri,_negri,_atawa_nagri?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 Séptémber 2015 01.55 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z-Negeri,_negri,_atawa_nagri?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z-Negeri,_negri,_atawa_nagri?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z"></span>Numutkeun simkuring mah, <i>nagri</i> Téh. Janten wé paguron luhur nagri, mentri luar nagri, mentri jero nagri (hihi rada anéh), jsb. Upami rada anéh mah nya kapaksa nganggo basa Indonésia panginten --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Tedi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Obrolan pamaké:Mssetiadi">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 Séptémber 2015 09.56 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T01:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T10:29:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z"></span>Muhun, hatur nuhun kana pangdeudeulna Kang <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Mssetiadi</a>:</span>, da dina kamus gé émang nagri. Mung pas disungsi téh gening seueur artikel nu nganggé kecap negeri sareng negri, janten wéh bingung :D --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">A.R Dipusparaga</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Obrolan pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T10:29:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 Séptémber 2015 10.29 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T10:29:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T10:29:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kumincir-2015-09-28T02:15:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T10:29:00.000Z"></span>Ngiringan nu dihijab we abdi mah... --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">kumincir</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Obrolan pamaké:Kumincir">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Kumincir-2015-09-28T02:15:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T10:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">28 Séptémber 2015 02.15 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kumincir-2015-09-28T02:15:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T10:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kumincir-2015-09-28T02:15:00.000Z-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-09-25T10:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uchup19-2015-09-28T04:41:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z"></span>Sanaos rada karagok dianggéna, abdi sapuk pami konsistén kana kecap "Nagri"--<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19"><b><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#">Yusup_Ramdani</font></b></a> <a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Obrolan pamaké:Uchup19"><font color="#">✉</font></a> <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Uchup19-2015-09-28T04:41:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">28 Séptémber 2015 04.41 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uchup19-2015-09-28T04:41:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uchup19-2015-09-28T04:41:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2015-09-25T09:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd>Okéy siap. Hatur nuhun Kang <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">Kang kumi</a> <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19">Kang Ucup</a> :)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Penjelajah" data-mw-thread-id="h-Penjelajah-2015-11-16T09:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Penjelajah-2015-11-16T09:28:00.000Z"></span>Penjelajah<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Penjelajah-2015-11-16T09:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&action=edit&section=4" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Penjelajah"><span>édit sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-11-16T09:28:00.000Z-Penjelajah"></span>Baraya sadaya, pami basa Sunda nu pas kanggo penjelajah naon nya? <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">Kumincir</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19">Uchup19</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Sopianwar" title="Pamaké:Sopianwar">Sopianwar</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Mssetiadi</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">ilhamkang</a> --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">A.R Dipusparaga</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Obrolan pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-11-16T09:28:00.000Z-Penjelajah" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 Nopémber 2015 09.28 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-11-16T09:28:00.000Z-Penjelajah"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.R_Dipusparaga-2015-11-16T09:28:00.000Z-Penjelajah"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kecepatan,_Kacepatan,_Katéréhan,_Kagancangan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kecepatan,_Kacepatan,_Katéréhan,_Kagancangan-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z"><span id="Kecepatan.2C_Kacepatan.2C_Kat.C3.A9r.C3.A9han.2C_Kagancangan"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kecepatan,_Kacepatan,_Katéréhan,_Kagancangan-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Kecepatan, Kacepatan, Katéréhan, Kagancangan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kecepatan,_Kacepatan,_Katéréhan,_Kagancangan-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&action=edit&section=5" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Kecepatan, Kacepatan, Katéréhan, Kagancangan"><span>édit sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A2613-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z-Kecepatan,_Kacepatan,_Katéréhan,_Kagancangan"></span>Naon basa Sundana "Kecepatan"? Diantos waleranana <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">Ilham.nurwansah</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:A.R_Dipusparaga" title="Pamaké:A.R Dipusparaga">A.R Dipusparaga</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19">Uchup19</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">Kumincir</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Mssetiadi</a>:</span> <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:A2613" title="Pamaké:A2613">A2613</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:A2613" title="Obrolan pamaké:A2613">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-A2613-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z-Kecepatan,_Kacepatan,_Katéréhan,_Kagancangan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5 Januari 2016 13.37 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A2613-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z-Kecepatan,_Kacepatan,_Katéréhan,_Kagancangan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A2613-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z-Kecepatan,_Kacepatan,_Katéréhan,_Kagancangan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-07T04:20:00.000Z-A2613-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z"></span>simkuring teu acan ningal kamus, mung biasana mah sok ilahar disebat 'kacepetan'. Cobi diantos pamendak nu sanésna. --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">ilhamkang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Obrolan pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-07T04:20:00.000Z-A2613-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">7 Januari 2016 04.20 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-07T04:20:00.000Z-A2613-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-07T04:20:00.000Z-A2613-2016-01-05T13:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mssetiadi-2016-01-26T01:56:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-07T04:20:00.000Z"></span>Ieu téh mangrupi salah sawios masalah nu dipayunan ku simkuring salami ngédit di Wikipédia. "Ke-an" dina basa Indonésia (atanapi "-ence", "-ness" dina basa Inggris) sesah disundakeun kanggo sadaya kecap. Simkuring mah biasana ngagentos ku "-na" atanapi kadang-kadang henteu dirarangkénan. Duka tah leres henteuna mah, margi mung supados karaos merenah wé. :) Contona: (1) Kecepatan mobil tersebut 20 km/jam. --> Gancangna éta mobil 20 km/jam. (2) Mobil ini berkecepatan tinggi --> Ieu mobil gancang pisan. (Teu énakeun upami diserat: "Ieu mobil boga kagancangan luhur" haha, merenah kénéh upami ditarjamahkeun "Ieu mobil kacida pisan gancangna"). Sababaraha kecap sanésna mah tiasa kénéh lebet upami ditarjamahkeun nganggo rarangkén "ka-an" sapertos (en, id, su): patience, kesabaran, kasabaran; independence, kemerdekaan, kamerdikaan; happiness, kebahagiaan, kabagjaan. Nanging ieu pola henteu tiasa sami persis, contona upami dibalik, "kahampangan" janten naon basa Indonésia sareng basa Inggrisna hayo? --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Pamaké:Mssetiadi">Tedi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Mssetiadi" title="Obrolan pamaké:Mssetiadi">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Mssetiadi-2016-01-26T01:56:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-07T04:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 Januari 2016 01.56 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mssetiadi-2016-01-26T01:56:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-07T04:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mssetiadi-2016-01-26T01:56:00.000Z-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-07T04:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-26T02:59:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2016-01-26T01:56:00.000Z"></span>Upami kahampangan janten "keringanan" sareng "lightness" rupina mah. haha. Muhun numawi, ilaharna dina kaidah basa Sunda mah digentos wangunna kecapna nganggo rarangken -na, oge wangun kalimahna margi dina narjamahkeun teu kedah salawasna sami sareng wangun basa sumberna. Saéna mah diluyukeun kana kabiasaan dina basa Sunda waé. Ku margi upami ditarjamahkeun kecap per kecap mah insyaallah hasilna ahéng. Hehehe. Nuhun, Kang sawanganna. --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">ilhamkang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Obrolan pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-26T02:59:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2016-01-26T01:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 Januari 2016 02.59 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-26T02:59:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2016-01-26T01:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2016-01-26T02:59:00.000Z-Mssetiadi-2016-01-26T01:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pamakéan_Aksara_Sunda_di_Wikipédia_Sunda" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pamakéan_Aksara_Sunda_di_Wikipédia_Sunda-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"><span id="Pamak.C3.A9an_Aksara_Sunda_di_Wikip.C3.A9dia_Sunda"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pamakéan_Aksara_Sunda_di_Wikipédia_Sunda-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"></span>Pamakéan Aksara Sunda di Wikipédia Sunda<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pamakéan_Aksara_Sunda_di_Wikipédia_Sunda-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&action=edit&section=6" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Pamakéan Aksara Sunda di Wikipédia Sunda"><span>édit sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z-Pamakéan_Aksara_Sunda_di_Wikipédia_Sunda"></span>Urang sadaya uninga yén Wikipédia Sunda téh diserat nganggo aksara Latén. Kaayeunakeun, simkuring sok mendakan aya nu nambihan aksara Sunda saatos <i>kata kunci</i> artikel. Misalna "<b>Munding</b> (Aksara Sunda <i>Munding</i>) nyaéta...". Kumargi di Wikipédia Sunda ayeuna teu acan aya kawijakan perkawis hal éta, panginten kedah aya sapertos kawijakan anu ngatur éta. simkuring badé ngusulkeun tilu hal: </p> <ol><li>Aksara Sunda ngan dipaké di artikel anu aya patalina jeung Sunda atawa Jawa Kulon. Jadi, artikel ngeunaan Jérman mah teu kudu maké aksara Sunda.</li> <li>Aksara Sunda ngan dipaké saenggeus <i>kata kunci</i>.</li> <li>Aksara Sunda sipatna opsional, ditulis pék, teu ditulis teu nanaon.</li></ol> <p>Kumaha kamandang sadérék sadaya? <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">Kumincir</a>:</span> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">Ilham.nurwansah</a>:</span> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Uchup19" title="Pamaké:Uchup19">Uchup19</a>:</span> Mudah-mudahan wéh engké mah bakal aya Wikipédia Sunda vérsi <i>full</i> aksara Sunda sapertos Wikipédia basa Kazakh. <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:A2613" title="Pamaké:A2613">A2613</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:A2613" title="Obrolan pamaké:A2613">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z-Pamakéan_Aksara_Sunda_di_Wikipédia_Sunda" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">7 Désémber 2019 13.19 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z-Pamakéan_Aksara_Sunda_di_Wikipédia_Sunda"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z-Pamakéan_Aksara_Sunda_di_Wikipédia_Sunda"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kumincir-2019-12-17T09:29:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"></span>Ari ceuk kami mah teu kudu diwatesan, bisa dina artikel naon baé, malah ari hayang maju mah puguh kudu aksara Sunda téh kudu ngambah widang2 séjén. Nu penting cara nulisna bener. --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">nandar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Obrolan pamaké:Kumincir">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Kumincir-2019-12-17T09:29:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 Désémber 2019 09.29 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kumincir-2019-12-17T09:29:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kumincir-2019-12-17T09:29:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kumincir-2019-12-17T09:31:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"></span>Émbohna, kumaha carana ngasupkeun sét aksara Sunda kana batang parabot di luhur kotak suntingan/édit? Ngarah babari ngasupkeun :D --<a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Pamaké:Kumincir">nandar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Kumincir" title="Obrolan pamaké:Kumincir">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Kumincir-2019-12-17T09:31:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 Désémber 2019 09.31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kumincir-2019-12-17T09:31:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kumincir-2019-12-17T09:31:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2020-10-17T06:06:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"></span>Sapuk <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">ilhamkang</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Ilham.nurwansah" title="Obrolan pamaké:Ilham.nurwansah">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Ilham.nurwansah-2020-10-17T06:06:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 Oktober 2020 06.06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2020-10-17T06:06:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilham.nurwansah-2020-10-17T06:06:00.000Z-A2613-2019-12-07T13:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Terjemahan_Basa_Indonesia_kana_Basa_Sunda" data-mw-thread-id="h-Terjemahan_Basa_Indonesia_kana_Basa_Sunda-20230410113600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Terjemahan_Basa_Indonesia_kana_Basa_Sunda-20230410113600"></span>Terjemahan Basa Indonesia kana Basa Sunda<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Terjemahan_Basa_Indonesia_kana_Basa_Sunda-20230410113600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&action=edit&section=7" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Terjemahan Basa Indonesia kana Basa Sunda"><span>édit sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ariandi_Lie-20230410113600-Terjemahan_Basa_Indonesia_kana_Basa_Sunda"></span>Sampurasun, Dupi SMP (Sekolah menengah pertama) sareng SMA (Sekolah menengah atas) lamun di robih kana basa Sunda janten naon ?? <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Ariandi_Lie" title="Pamaké:Ariandi Lie">Ariandi Lie</a> (<a href="/wiki/Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Ariandi_Lie" title="Obrolan pamaké:Ariandi Lie">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Ariandi_Lie-20230410113600-Terjemahan_Basa_Indonesia_kana_Basa_Sunda" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10 April 2023 11.36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ariandi_Lie-20230410113600-Terjemahan_Basa_Indonesia_kana_Basa_Sunda"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ariandi_Lie-20230410113600-Terjemahan_Basa_Indonesia_kana_Basa_Sunda"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ngavaluation_Pautan_Brand_Luar_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ngavaluation_Pautan_Brand_Luar_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?-20240921031600"><span id="Ngavaluation_Pautan_Brand_Luar_di_AdvancedSiteNotices.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ngavaluation_Pautan_Brand_Luar_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?-20240921031600"></span>Ngavaluation Pautan Brand Luar di AdvancedSiteNotices?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ngavaluation_Pautan_Brand_Luar_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?-20240921031600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&action=edit&section=8" title="Sunting kode sumber bagian: Ngavaluation Pautan Brand Luar di AdvancedSiteNotices?"><span>édit sumber</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kitabc12345-20240921031600-Ngavaluation_Pautan_Brand_Luar_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?"></span>Sundanese (Latin script): </p><p>Aya nu percaya yén Warta Wikipedia Céna sareng <a href="/wiki/Citakan:AdvancedSiteNotices" title="Citakan:AdvancedSiteNotices">AdvancedSiteNotices</a> Wikipedia Céna teu meunang nyebut ngalengkepan brand kawas Telegram, Instagram, Google Form, atawa ngagunakeun pautan luar éta. Masalah ieu kudu <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375253" class="extiw" title="phab:T375253">dipuruk sakumah di Phabricator T375253</a>. </p><p>Kuring nganggap ieu teu masuk akal sarta kuring amat prihatin. Ku kituna, kuring hayang nangkéb pamadegan anjeun sadaya. Ku sabab wiki anjeun ogé aya situasi nu sarua, sarta masalah ieu kamungkinan bade dipuruk dina waktu saakéan, kuring sarankeun anjeun nyapek konsensus masarakat, tuluy nganjurkeun pamadegan anjeun ka Phabricator T375253. </p><p>Anjeunna ngomong: "Kuring saéstu yakin anjeun teu dihijikeun pikeun nyambung atawa ngan ukur nyebut brand kawas Telegram atawa Instagram atawa Google ti sateungeul wangun sitenotice. Anjeun moal bisa ti CentralNotice, kuring teu nempo naha dasar bédana kudu diterapkeun di dieu. Anjeun bisa nyambung ka kaca-kaca éta ti kaca di wiki anjeun sarta nyambung ti sitenotice ka kaca éta di wiki anjeun. Tapi can langsung ti sitenotice ka situs luar. Ieu urjen, kudu dipuruk sakumaha. (iwal lamun anjeun bisa tunjukkeun ka kami di mana aya nu ngomong ieu diwijikeun?)" </p><p>Sundanese (Sundanese script): </p> <pre>ᮀᮖᮥᮒᮇᮍᮦᮔ᮪ ᮞᮜᮤᮆᮒ᮪ ᮘᮩᮀᮔ᮪ ᮘᮩᮏᮧᮜ᮪ ᮌᮜᮥᮁ ᮄᮓᮤ ᮓᮧᮝᮥ᮴ ᮝᮤᮔᮥᮎᮧᮒᮤᮢᮠᮆ? </pre> <p>ᮃᮘ ᮔᮥ ᮞᮣᮤ ᮘᮦᮤ ᮛᮊ᮪ᮤᮔ ᮚᮨᮔ ᮦᮃᮕᮣᮒ᮪ ᮔᮤᮚ ᮃᮒᮥ ᮓᮥᮓᮥᮎᮥᮔ᮪ ᮘᮩᮀᮔ᮪ ᮎᮓ᮪ ᮎᮓᮎ᮪ᮚ ᮒᮦᮜᮤᮌᮩᮒ᮪, ᮤᮔᮥᮝᮒᮩᮌᮩᮒ᮪, ᮌᮥᮌᮧᮜ᮪ ᮓᮧᮩᮒ᮪, ᮃᮒᮓ ᮌᮥᮔᮛᮓᮄᮔ᮪ ᮞᮜᮤᮆᮒ᮪ ᮌᮜᮥᮁ ᮆᮒ᮪. ᮔᮧᮎᮡ ᮤᮤ ᮏᮥᮒ᮪ <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375253" class="extiw" title="phab:T375253">ᮓᮤᮞᮒᮤᮟᮤᮓ ᮞᮨᮢᮖᮠ ᮄᮓᮤ ᮙᮦᮘᮩᮢᮤᮍᮣᮒᮧᮜ᮪ ᮒ375253</a>᮪ </p><p>ᮏᮥᮎᮤᮔ᮪ ᮃᮔᮌᮌᮤᮞᮆᮤᮔ᮪ ᮠᮤᮑᮥ ᮒᮏᮥᮎ ᮏᮢᮤᮔ᮪ ᮟᮛᮤᮑᮣᮔ᮪. ᮏᮥ ᮢᮤᮒᮤᮔ, ᮏᮥᮎᮤᮔ᮪ ᮑᮒᮔ᮪ ᮔᮌᮍᮔ᮪ ᮞᮢᮛᮒ᮪ ᮒᮕᮜᮤᮔ ᮃᮔᮢᮥᮔ᮪ ᮞᮓᮖ᮪. ᮏᮥ ᮞᮘᮩᮘ᮪ ᮦᮏᮤᮓᮖᮤᮔ᮪ ᮃᮌ ᮃᮓᮃ ᮞᮤᮒᮥᮃᮤ ᮔᮥ ᮞᮣᮤᮢᮃ, ᮟᮣᮒᮖ ᮔᮧᮎᮡ ᮤᮤ ᮎᮓᮖᮤᮔ᮪ ᮓᮤᮞᮒᮤᮟᮤᮓ ᮓᮤᮜᮥᮜᮥ, ᮏᮥᮎᮤᮔ᮪ ᮟᮣᮛᮎᮔᮎᮔ᮪ ᮠᮏᮣᮒᮤᮩᮔ ᮔᮥ ᮞᮣᮒ᮳ᮏᮣᮒ, ᮒᮥᮜᮧᮢ ᮔᮌᮍᮔ᮪ ᮏᮣᮓᮕᮣᮒ᮪ ᮃᮔᮢᮥᮔ᮪ ᮎᮃ ᮙᮦᮘᮩᮢᮤᮍᮣᮒᮧᮜ᮪ ᮒ375253. </p><p>ᮃᮔᮢᮥᮔ᮪ ᮔᮌᮧᮒ᮪: "ᮏᮥᮎᮤᮔ᮪ ᮟᮣᮨᮝᮥ ᮖᮉᮔ᮪ ᮃᮔᮢᮥᮔ᮪ ᮒᮆ ᮓᮤᮤᮚᮤᮔ᮪ ᮔᮣᮊᮢᮤᮔ᮪ ᮃᮒᮓ ᮔᮓᮔᮢᮤᮔ᮪ ᮘᮩᮀᮔ᮪ ᮎᮓ᮪ ᮎᮓᮎ᮪ᮚ ᮒᮦᮜᮤᮌᮩᮒ᮪ ᮃᮒᮓ ᮤᮔᮥᮝᮒᮩᮌᮩᮒ᮪ ᮃᮒᮓ ᮌᮥᮌᮧᮜ᮪ ᮩᮢᮃ ᮞᮤᮒᮦᮔᮧᮒᮤᮢ. ᮃᮔᮢᮥᮔ᮪ ᮟᮧᮃᮜ᮪ ᮘᮤᮞᮃ ᮩᮢᮃ ᮘᮢᮤᮔᮧᮒᮤᮢ, ᮏᮥᮎᮤᮔ᮪ ᮒᮆ ᮔᮦᮟᮧ ᮔᮣᮓ ᮏᮧᮜᮤᮞᮤ ᮘᮦᮓ ᮏᮥᮒ ᮓᮤᮒᮩᮩᮘᮗᮦᮔ᮪ ᮓᮤᮟᮣᮎᮤᮔ᮪ ᮓᮤᮤᮑᮤ. ᮃᮔᮢᮥᮔ᮪ ᮘᮤᮞᮃ ᮔᮣᮊᮢᮤᮔ᮪ ᮎᮃ ᮎᮣᮢᮃ-ᮎᮣᮢᮃ ᮆᮒ᮪ ᮩᮢᮃ ᮎᮣᮢᮃ ᮓᮤ ᮦᮏᮤᮓᮖ ᮃᮔᮢᮥᮔ᮪ ᮟᮣᮒᮖ ᮔᮣᮊᮢᮤᮔ᮪ ᮩᮢᮃ ᮎᮣᮢᮃ ᮆᮒ᮪ ᮓᮤ ᮦᮏᮤᮓᮖ. ᮒᮣᮒᮤ ᮎᮓᮠ ᮩᮢᮃ ᮞᮤᮒᮦᮔᮧᮒᮤᮢ ᮎᮃ ᮞᮤᮒᮥᮢ ᮜᮥᮁ. ᮠᮤᮔᮤ ᮥᮚᮦᮔ᮪, ᮏᮥᮒ᮪ ᮓᮤᮞᮒᮤᮟᮤᮓ ᮞᮨᮢᮖᮠ. (ᮞᮒᮥᮎᮤ ᮃᮔᮢᮥᮔ᮪ ᮘᮤᮞᮃ ᮒᮥᮔᮢᮥᮎᮎᮦᮔ᮪ ᮎᮃ ᮏᮣᮤ ᮃᮓᮃ ᮔᮥ ᮔᮌᮧᮒ᮪ ᮠᮤᮔᮤ ᮓᮤᮤᮚᮤᮔ᮪?)" </p><p>Sundanese (Pegon script): اﭗنکاۋالواسیۆن ڤالواتن براند لۋار دی ادۋانسدسایتنۆٽیس؟ </p><p>اٙی ن ڤرچاي ئن واٹ ويکیڤیدیا چينا سرﭔ ادۋانسدسایتنۆٽیس ويکیڤیدیا چينا ت مونڠ نيبوت ڠالغکڤن براند کاواس ٽيليکرام، اینستاکرام، کۆکل ڗۆرم، اتاوا ڠکۋنکون ڤالواتن لۋار ايٽا. مسالح ائی کۋد <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375253" class="extiw" title="phab:T375253">دیڤرۋک سکومه دی ڗحرایکاتۆر ت375253</a>۪ </p><p>کۋرینک ڠاڠک اٙی ت مسۋک ائیڠل سرت کۋرینک امت ڤریحتن. ک کیٽۋنا، کۋرینک حایڠ نڠک ڤامدیڠن انجون سداي. ک سبب ویکی انجون اۆک ای سیٽواسی ن سرۋا، سرت مسالح ائی کمۋڠکینن بادي دی ڤرۋک دالم واکت سدايکن، کۋرینک سارنکين انجون نياڤک کۆنسینس مسارکت، تولوي ڠنجورکن ڤامدیڠن انجون ک ڗحرایکاتۆر ت375253۪ </p><p>انجۋنن ڠۆمۆ: "کۋرینک ساٿ ياکیٔن انجۋن ت دیحیجکين ڤیکون نياریبوتکن اٙبراند کاواس ٽيليکرام اٙتاوا اینستاکرام اٙتاوا کۆکل تی ساٽونکل واڠڭن سایٹ نۆٽیس. انجۋن مۆال بیسا تی سنتڕاله نۆٽیس، کۋرینک ت ناۋه نادا کابیجاکن بيدانا کۋد دیٽراڤاکن دی دی ایۆ. انجۋن بیسا نياریبوتکن ک کاچا-کاچا ایٽا تی کاچا دی ویکی انجۋن سرت نياریبوتکن تی سایٹ نۆٽیس ک کاچا ایٽا دی ویکی انجۋن. ٽاڤی جاڠن لکسۆ٘ تی سایٹ نۆٽیس ک سیٽوس لۋار. ائی اۋرجن، کۋد دیڤرۋک سکومه. (اٙیوال لمن انجۋن بیسا تنجوکون ک کامی دی مان ای ن ڠۆمۆ ائی دیویجیکین؟)" </p><p>Evaluating External Brand Links in AdvancedSiteNotices? </p><p>Some people believe that Chinese Wikipedia News and Chinese Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Citakan:AdvancedSiteNotices" title="Citakan:AdvancedSiteNotices">AdvancedSiteNotices</a> should not fully mention brand names like Telegram, Instagram, Google Form, or use these external links. This issue needs to be <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375253" class="extiw" title="phab:T375253">fixed immediately on Phabricator T375253</a>. </p><p>I find this quite unreasonable and I am very concerned. Therefore, I would like to hear all of your opinions. Since your wiki also has the same situation, and this issue is likely to be fixed in the near future, I suggest you reach a community consensus and then submit your opinion to Phabricator T375253. </p><p>He says: "I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to link to or even mention the brand names Telegram or Instagram or Google from a sitenotice. You can't from a CentralNotice, I don't see why a different policy should apply here. You can link to those pages from a page on your wiki and link from the sitenotice to that page on your wiki. But not directly from sitenotice to the external site. This is urgent, must be fixed immediately. (unless you can show us where someone said this is ok?)" <a href="/wiki/Pamak%C3%A9:Kitabc12345" title="Pamaké:Kitabc12345">Kitabc12345</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Obrolan_pamak%C3%A9:Kitabc12345&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Obrolan pamaké:Kitabc12345 (kaca can aya)">sawala</a>) <a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)#c-Kitabc12345-20240921031600-Ngavaluation_Pautan_Brand_Luar_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 Séptémber 2024 03.16 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kitabc12345-20240921031600-Ngavaluation_Pautan_Brand_Luar_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">balesan</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kitabc12345-20240921031600-Ngavaluation_Pautan_Brand_Luar_di_AdvancedSiteNotices?"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Dicomot ti "<a dir="ltr" href="https://su.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&oldid=673187">https://su.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)&oldid=673187</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Husus:Kategori" title="Husus:Kategori">Kategori</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Kategori:Sawala_Wikipedia" title="Kategori:Sawala Wikipedia">Sawala Wikipedia</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Kaca ieu panungtungan diédit 21 Séptémber 2024, jam 03.16.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Téks sadia dina <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en">Lisénsi Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike</a>; katangtuan tambahan kamungkinan lumaku. 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