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The result of <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1249609975#Requested_move_1_October_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1249609975">the discussion</a> was <b>not moved</b>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Clean/organise"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Clean/organise</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-2"><a href="#precedence"><span class="tocnumber">1.1</span> <span class="toctext">precedence</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Redacted_not_a_soapbox"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span 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class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">External links modified</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Requested_move_1_October_2024"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Requested move 1 October 2024</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Clean\/organise-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z-Clean\/organise&quot;,&quot;c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T18:17:00.000Z-Clean\/organise&quot;,&quot;h-precedence-Clean\/organise-2011-01-10T08:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Clean\/organise&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Clean\/organise&quot;}--></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z-Clean/organise"></span>The article needs to be better organised perhaps akin to other refereundum articles with sections, etc. Also needs updating (an ITN nom was given <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2010/08/201081454738520280.html">[1]</a>)<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z-Clean/organise" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 15 August 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z-Clean/organise"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z-Clean/organise"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-10T00:23:00.000Z-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z"></span>THe only reason the tag was on because <i>another</i> set of eyes needs to read the oil, tribl differences adn demarcation sections that were merged.</dd> <dd>Also the controversy section needs organisation.</dd> <dd>then feel free to remove it if sanctioned as a-ok.(<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-10T00:23:00.000Z-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 10 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-10T00:23:00.000Z-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lihaas-2011-01-10T00:23:00.000Z-Lihaas-2010-08-15T00:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-13T18:09:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-10T00:23:00.000Z"></span>I've done a little bit of work to clean up the Issues and Controversies sections: among other things, I've moved the "violence" section under "Voting", since it's related to violence during the voting process; I moved the "precedents" bit into "Issues", and split the "Efforts..." subsection into its own section below "Issues". The work definitely isn't finished; I've only done a quick inspection of the whole thing. Please feel free to putter around and improve things further. The more structure, the better; let's move this away from being a huge wall of text. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Dragfyre" title="User:Dragfyre">dragfyre</a></b>_<span style="font-size:70%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dragfyre" title="User talk:Dragfyre">ʞןɐʇ</a></span><span style="font-size:70%;vertical-align:top"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dragfyre" title="Special:Contributions/Dragfyre">c</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Dragfyre-2011-01-13T18:09:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-10T00:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 13 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-13T18:09:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-10T00:23:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-13T18:09:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-10T00:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T18:17:00.000Z-Clean/organise"></span>The main issues of the 3 subjects was added by someone else, it looked good to add context tot he article so i merge but didnt go through the details (ie- seeming copyvio) of them. Otherwise most of the merging looks good. im going to do a little more here and there.(<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T18:17:00.000Z-Clean/organise" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T18:17:00.000Z-Clean/organise"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" 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cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-10T08:19:00.000Z-precedence"></span>the kosovo see also is added in line with the "extenral precedence" in its controversy of seetting off a storm.(<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-10T08:19:00.000Z-precedence" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-10T08:19:00.000Z-precedence"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redacted_not_a_soapbox"></span>Redacted not a soapbox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redacted_not_a_soapbox"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Redacted not a soapbox" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-49' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span></div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <p>This is an encyclopedia article based on sourced material, not a place for persuasion, a particular point of view, and original research/synthesis. Furthermore, this Talk page is not here to discuss the issue of the referendum in general. There are numerous places on the internet to do this. This Talk page is to discuss the article itself. Please refrain from persuasive speeches and original research in the talk page and article. There are better places to express these opinions.Jbower47 (talk) 20:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC) </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Redacted_Soap_box_rant" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redacted_Soap_box_rant"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redacted_Soap_box_rant"></span>Redacted Soap box rant<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redacted_Soap_box_rant"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Redacted Soap box rant" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-50' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span></div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> <p>This is an encyclopedia article based on sources material, not a position article or opinion piece. This is not the place to discuss your opinion of the legitimacy of the referendum. If you have issues with some fact stated in the article, please present a credible referenced source that refutes it, and then it can be discussed. There are MANY places on the internet to discuss your opinion on Sudanese politics. This article, and especially this Talk page is not one of them. The Talk page is a place to discuss issues with the article, not the topic in general.Jbower47 (talk) 20:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC) </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Their_Flag-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z-Their_Flag&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Their Flag&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Their Flag&quot;}--><h2 id="Their_Flag" data-mw-thread-id="h-Their_Flag-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Their_Flag-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z"></span>Their Flag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Their_Flag-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Their Flag" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-51' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lihaas-2011-01-09T22:22:00.000Z-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Their_Flag-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z-Their_Flag&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Their Flag&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Their Flag&quot;}--></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z-Their_Flag"></span>Shouldn't we include the Flag of Southern Sudan? </p> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg" class="mw-file-description"><noscript><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg/200px-Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="100" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="1140" data-file-height="570"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 200px;height: 100px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg/200px-Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg.png" data-width="200" data-height="100" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg/300px-Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg/400px-Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element">&nbsp;</span></a><figcaption>The flag of the Government of <a href="/wiki/Southern_Sudan" class="mw-disambig" title="Southern Sudan">Southern Sudan</a></figcaption></figure> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Invmog" title="User:Invmog">Invmog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Invmog" title="User talk:Invmog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z-Their_Flag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 7 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z-Their_Flag"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z-Their_Flag"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-09T22:22:00.000Z-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z"></span>Sure but under what content? the campaign i guess, but one must demostrante cited relevance (of the FLAG that is, to the vote) (<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-09T22:22:00.000Z-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-09T22:22:00.000Z-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lihaas-2011-01-09T22:22:00.000Z-Invmog-2011-01-07T15:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-UN?-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z-UN?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;UN?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;UN?&quot;}--><h2 id="UN?" data-mw-thread-id="h-UN?-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z"><span id="UN.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-UN?-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z"></span>UN?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-UN?-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: UN?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-52' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lihaas-2011-01-11T10:57:00.000Z-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-UN?-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z-UN?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;UN?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;UN?&quot;}--></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z-UN?"></span>If Southern Sudan does declare independence will they join the UN or will they be an observer? <a href="/wiki/User:Spongie555" title="User:Spongie555">Spongie555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spongie555" title="User talk:Spongie555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z-UN?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z-UN?"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z-UN?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-11T10:57:00.000Z-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z"></span>This question is better for the refdesk, but it seems like all parties agree to respect a referendum result should the prerequisite 60% take part. So it seems with no objection it should join the un. salva kir as general assembly head in a few years? <a href="/wiki/Perhaps_Perhaps_Perhaps" class="mw-redirect" title="Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps">Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps</a>.(<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-11T10:57:00.000Z-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-11T10:57:00.000Z-Spongie555-2011-01-11T04:57:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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mf-icon--small"></span><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Marked_\&quot;dubious\&quot;?-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z-Marked_\&quot;dubious\&quot;?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Marked \&quot;dubious\&quot;?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Marked \&quot;dubious\&quot;?&quot;}--><h2 id='Marked_"dubious"?' data-mw-thread-id='h-Marked_"dubious"?-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z'><span id="Marked_.22dubious.22.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-Marked_"dubious"?-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z'></span>Marked "dubious"?<span data-mw-comment-end='h-Marked_"dubious"?-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z'></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Marked_\&quot;dubious\&quot;?-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z-Marked_\&quot;dubious\&quot;?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Marked \&quot;dubious\&quot;?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Marked \&quot;dubious\&quot;?&quot;}--></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z-Marked_"dubious"?'></span>Why is the link to the <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.sudanvotemonitor.com/">http://www.sudanvotemonitor.com/</a> marked "Dubious"? And why wasn't that followed up on the talk page (per the usage)? Sudan Vote Monitor is an <a href="/wiki/Ushahidi" title="Ushahidi">Ushahidi</a> installation, run by a coalition of well respected South Sudanese and foreign NGOs. The lead group comes from the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sudan_Institute_for_Research_and_Policy&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Sudan Institute for Research and Policy (page does not exist)">Sudan Institute for Research and Policy</a>. See interview here (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.fastcompany.com/1708700/sudans-first-sms-powered-voting-monitor-takes-its-place-in-upcoming-referendum">Sudan's First SMS-Powered Voting Monitor Tracks "Violence," "Intimidation"</a>. Jenara Nerenberg. Fast Company. Dec 10, 2010.) There's enough third party independent reporting of the initiative that it might merit a place in the article, let alone making it a valuable external link. Unless someone has an axe to grind, I can't see how it is dubious. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/38.99.217.54" title="Special:Contributions/38.99.217.54">38.99.217.54</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:38.99.217.54" title="User talk:38.99.217.54">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z-Marked_%22dubious%22?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z-Marked_"dubious"?'><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z-Marked_"dubious"?'></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-11T21:48:00.000Z-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z"></span>it seemed pov from a glance at itw page and "about us" but go head and remove it.(<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-11T21:48:00.000Z-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).b<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-11T21:48:00.000Z-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lihaas-2011-01-11T21:48:00.000Z-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zeimusu-2011-01-12T22:02:00.000Z-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z"></span>It may be pov, but providing it doesn't unbalance the neutrality of the page it is acceptable to link to external sites that are non-neutral. Dubious is the wrong tag - it is for marking doubtful claims. removing <a href="/wiki/User:Zeimusu" title="User:Zeimusu">Zeimusu</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zeimusu" title="User talk:Zeimusu">Talk page</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Zeimusu-2011-01-12T22:02:00.000Z-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 12 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zeimusu-2011-01-12T22:02:00.000Z-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zeimusu-2011-01-12T22:02:00.000Z-38.99.217.54-2011-01-11T17:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:38:00.000Z-Zeimusu-2011-01-12T22:02:00.000Z"></span>It "may be pov, <i>but</i>"? neutrality is not balanced by linking to a pov source as thats Undue.(<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:38:00.000Z-Zeimusu-2011-01-12T22:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:38:00.000Z-Zeimusu-2011-01-12T22:02:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:38:00.000Z-Zeimusu-2011-01-12T22:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(7)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Naming-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z-Naming&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Naming&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Naming&quot;}--><h2 id="Naming" data-mw-thread-id="h-Naming-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Naming-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Naming<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Naming-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Naming" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-54' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lihaas-2011-01-18T15:04:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>8 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>5 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Naming-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z-Naming&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Naming&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Naming&quot;}--></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-7 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-7"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z-Naming"></span>According to BBC, a flag and an anthem for the future state (given a sucessful secession from Sudan) already exist, but a name has not been decided upon. Are there propositons for the name of the new country? -- <a href="/wiki/User:MegA" title="User:MegA">megA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MegA" title="User talk:MegA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z-Naming" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 12 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z-Naming"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z-Naming"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-66.183.11.233-2011-01-12T18:15:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z"></span>"Equatoria" might be high on the list, but I don't know (<a href="/wiki/User:Zazaban" title="User:Zazaban">User:Zazaban</a>, not logged in.) <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.183.11.233" title="Special:Contributions/66.183.11.233">66.183.11.233</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:66.183.11.233" title="User talk:66.183.11.233">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-66.183.11.233-2011-01-12T18:15:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-66.183.11.233-2011-01-12T18:15:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-66.183.11.233-2011-01-12T18:15:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MegA-2011-01-13T16:09:00.000Z-66.183.11.233-2011-01-12T18:15:00.000Z"></span>Um, is this speculation or is this name actually considered? -- <a href="/wiki/User:MegA" title="User:MegA">megA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MegA" title="User talk:MegA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-MegA-2011-01-13T16:09:00.000Z-66.183.11.233-2011-01-12T18:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 13 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MegA-2011-01-13T16:09:00.000Z-66.183.11.233-2011-01-12T18:15:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MegA-2011-01-13T16:09:00.000Z-66.183.11.233-2011-01-12T18:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-13T16:09:00.000Z"></span>if spourced to RS then feel free to add to the campaign part of some subsection thereof.<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-13T16:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-13T16:09:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-13T16:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxval-2011-01-16T11:47:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z"></span>I heard that the name of the country would be <b>Republic of Kush</b>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Maxval" title="User:Maxval">maxval</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxval" title="User talk:Maxval">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Maxval-2011-01-16T11:47:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxval-2011-01-16T11:47:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxval-2011-01-16T11:47:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soap-2011-01-16T22:41:00.000Z-Maxval-2011-01-16T11:47:00.000Z"></span>Do you have anything that you can link to that says that? I'm not doubting you, but we need something more substantial in order to add it to the article.<b><a href="/wiki/User:Soap" title="User:Soap"><span style="color:green;">—</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soap" title="User talk:Soap"><span style="color:#057602;"><i>Soap</i></span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Soap" title="Special:Contributions/Soap"><span style="color:green;">—</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Soap-2011-01-16T22:41:00.000Z-Maxval-2011-01-16T11:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soap-2011-01-16T22:41:00.000Z-Maxval-2011-01-16T11:47:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soap-2011-01-16T22:41:00.000Z-Maxval-2011-01-16T11:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxval-2011-01-17T12:59:00.000Z-Soap-2011-01-16T22:41:00.000Z"></span>If I had any authoritive link, I would have added this info to the article. But I dont have. I have this info from somebody who was there as part of some international mission. --<a href="/wiki/User:Maxval" title="User:Maxval">maxval</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxval" title="User talk:Maxval">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Maxval-2011-01-17T12:59:00.000Z-Soap-2011-01-16T22:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxval-2011-01-17T12:59:00.000Z-Soap-2011-01-16T22:41:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-18T15:04:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-18T15:04:00.000Z-MegA-2011-01-12T12:45:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span 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class="mf-section-8 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-8"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z-Bold_title"></span>per "Most commonly, the article's subject is stated as early as possible in the first sentence, and placed in boldface:" and "Only the first occurrence of this word or term is placed in boldface." i dont see why the bold titles were altogether removed as they are in the first sentence<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z-Bold_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z-Bold_title"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled 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href="/wiki/User:Howard_the_Duck" title="User:Howard the Duck"><span style="color:#FFA500;">HTD</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_31#World_Cup_updates" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 31"><span style="color:#FFA500;">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-17T16:15:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 17 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-17T16:15:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-15T03:40:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T04:31:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-17T21:18:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lihaas-2011-01-18T15:06:00.000Z-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T04:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T18:56:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-18T15:06:00.000Z"></span>Lemme put it this way, the title of the subject of the article about <a href="/wiki/Barack_Obama" title="Barack Obama">Barack Obama</a> is a noun -- w/c is "Barack Obama." Whatever the title of the article about the subject of this article is, or however the first sentence is reworded, it will always be a modifier and its corresponding subject (hence "Southern Sudanese" is the subject then "2011 independence referendum" is the modifier); ergo it shouldn't be boldfaced. This is inline w/ article titles such as the various "<a href="/wiki/Music_of_Final_Fantasy_X" title="Music of Final Fantasy X">Music of Final Fantasy X</a>" "<a href="/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama" title="Political positions of Barack Obama">political positions of Barack Obama</a>" (and all "&lt;adjective&gt; of &lt;subject&gt;" articles), all election articles, etc. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLDTITLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLDTITLE">WP:BOLDTITLE</a>, "Descriptive titles." –<b><a href="/wiki/User:Howard_the_Duck" title="User:Howard the Duck"><span style="color:#FFA500;">HTD</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_31#World_Cup_updates" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 31"><span style="color:#FFA500;">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T18:56:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-18T15:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 18 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T18:56:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-18T15:06:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T18:56:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-18T15:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-18T21:55:00.000Z-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T18:56:00.000Z"></span>Shouldnt be bold face <i>at all</i> or just the 3 different words? For the former i digress, though id easily accept an alternative to the latter.(<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-18T21:55:00.000Z-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T18:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-18T21:55:00.000Z-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T18:56:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lihaas-2011-01-18T21:55:00.000Z-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-18T18:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-19T03:17:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-18T21:55:00.000Z"></span>No word should be boldfaced. At all. –<b><a href="/wiki/User:Howard_the_Duck" title="User:Howard the Duck"><span style="color:#FFA500;">HTD</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_31#World_Cup_updates" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 31"><span style="color:#FFA500;">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-19T03:17:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-18T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Howard_the_Duck-2011-01-19T03:17:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-18T21:55:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lihaas-2011-01-17T02:34:00.000Z-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T00:54:00.000Z">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T00:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Section_headings-2011-01-17T00:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T00:54:00.000Z-Section_headings&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Section headings&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Section headings&quot;}--></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-9 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-9"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T00:54:00.000Z-Section_headings"></span>I'm changing "Elections" to "Voting", since this is a referendum, not an election—no one is being "elected". Please discuss here in case there are strong reasons why "Elections" should be used. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Dragfyre" title="User:Dragfyre">dragfyre</a></b>_<span style="font-size:70%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dragfyre" title="User talk:Dragfyre">ʞןɐʇ</a></span><span style="font-size:70%;vertical-align:top"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dragfyre" title="Special:Contributions/Dragfyre">c</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T00:54:00.000Z-Section_headings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T00:54:00.000Z-Section_headings"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Copyright_status_of_article_text-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z-Copyright_status_of_article_text&quot;,&quot;c-Moonriddengirl-2011-01-23T18:01:00.000Z-Copyright_status_of_article_text&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Copyright status of article text&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Copyright status of article text&quot;}--></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-10 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-10"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z-Copyright_status_of_article_text"></span>I was just reviewing some of the text in this article, notably in the "Oil" subsection under "Issues", and after doing a quick Google search, I realized that the following text is copied and pasted directly from the referenced article (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.majalla.com/en/geopolitics/article207001.ece">http://www.majalla.com/en/geopolitics/article207001.ece</a>), without being quoted as such. The text did not exist in the WP article before the date the source article was printed, which indicates that the text was indeed copied-and-pasted from the source, which amounts to a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COPYVIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COPYVIO">copyright violation</a>. </p> <dl><dd><b>The majority of armed fighters are not the ones whose pockets are lined by oil revenue. For these individuals, boosting the nation’s economy is no motivation to stop the violence.</b> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=The+majority+of+armed+fighters+are+not+the+ones+whose+pockets+are+lined+by+oil+revenue&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8">Google Search</a>)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><b>But if Sudan falls into further civil warring, it could cost $100 billion, a price Sudan cannot afford and the international community doesn’t want to pay.</b> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=But+if+Sudan+falls+into+further+civil+warring,+it+could+cost+%24100+billion,+a+price+Sudan+cannot+afford+and+the+international+community+doesn%E2%80%99t+want+to+pay.&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8">Google Search</a>)</dd></dl> <p>I don't see a problem with using the Majalla article as a source, but its text should not be copied and pasted straight onto Wikipedia. Not only is it forbidden by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COPYVIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COPYVIO">WP policy</a>, but it hurts the readability of the WP article. Any text that has been copied and pasted into this article from copyrighted sources will have to be refactored and rewritten. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Dragfyre" title="User:Dragfyre">dragfyre</a></b>_<span style="font-size:70%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dragfyre" title="User talk:Dragfyre">ʞןɐʇ</a></span><span style="font-size:70%;vertical-align:top"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dragfyre" title="Special:Contributions/Dragfyre">c</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z-Copyright_status_of_article_text" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z-Copyright_status_of_article_text"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z-Copyright_status_of_article_text"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-17T02:36:00.000Z-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z"></span>thats a reason for the tag. we can remove most and shorten the issue to clean that out.(<a href="/wiki/User:Lihaas" title="User:Lihaas">Lihaas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lihaas" title="User talk:Lihaas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Lihaas-2011-01-17T02:36:00.000Z-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)</a>).<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lihaas-2011-01-17T02:36:00.000Z-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lihaas-2011-01-17T02:36:00.000Z-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T01:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T03:10:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-17T02:36:00.000Z"></span>OK—I can't do much more work on it right now, so I've indicated this in the cleanup tags; it should be dealt with promptly though, as copyvios are a pretty serious problem for an article. If you'd like to go through and delete whatever seems to fit the bill, you should probably go ahead. A little original material is better than a lot of copyvio. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Dragfyre" title="User:Dragfyre">dragfyre</a></b>_<span style="font-size:70%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dragfyre" title="User talk:Dragfyre">ʞןɐʇ</a></span><span style="font-size:70%;vertical-align:top"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dragfyre" title="Special:Contributions/Dragfyre">c</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T03:10:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-17T02:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 17 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T03:10:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-17T02:36:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dragfyre-2011-01-17T03:10:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-01-17T02:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moonriddengirl-2011-01-23T18:01:00.000Z-Copyright_status_of_article_text"></span>The copy-paste tag added to the article listed it for review automatically at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CP">the copyright problems board</a>. It has now been over a week since the content was tagged, and this material still constitutes a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. For instance, as of the point of blanking, the article included the following text: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1224211176">.mw-parser-output .quotebox{background-color:#F9F9F9;border:1px solid #aaa;box-sizing:border-box;padding:10px;font-size:88%;max-width:100%}.mw-parser-output .quotebox.floatleft{margin:.5em 1.4em .8em 0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox.floatright{margin:.5em 0 .8em 1.4em}.mw-parser-output .quotebox.centered{overflow:hidden;position:relative;margin:.5em auto .8em auto}.mw-parser-output .quotebox.floatleft span,.mw-parser-output .quotebox.floatright span{font-style:inherit}.mw-parser-output .quotebox>blockquote{margin:0;padding:0;border-left:0;font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-title{text-align:center;font-size:110%;font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-quote>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-quote:last-child>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-quote.quoted:before{font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-weight:bold;font-size:large;color:gray;content:" “ ";vertical-align:-45%;line-height:0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-quote.quoted:after{font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-weight:bold;font-size:large;color:gray;content:" ” ";line-height:0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox .left-aligned{text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .quotebox .right-aligned{text-align:right}.mw-parser-output .quotebox .center-aligned{text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .quotebox .quote-title,.mw-parser-output .quotebox .quotebox-quote{display:block}.mw-parser-output .quotebox cite{display:block;font-style:normal}@media screen and (max-width:640px){.mw-parser-output .quotebox{width:100%!important;margin:0 0 .8em!important;float:none!important}}</style><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style=";"> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>The majority of armed fighters are not the ones whose pockets are lined by oil revenue. For these individuals, boosting the nation’s economy is no motivation to stop the violence. According to a December 3 article published by the London-based magazine Al-Majalla, “Warring groups might respond to the urging of their political leader. In support of the economic rationale for peace, a report co-launched by the Institute for International Security explains that if both sides attain and sustain peace, it will bring in more profits for the country and encourage investors.”<sup id="cite_ref-majalla_1-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-majalla-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> If Sudan separates, it could cost the country $100 billion, a price Sudan cannot afford and the international community does not want to pay. </p> </blockquote> </div> <p>The source says: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>The majority of armed fighters are not the ones whose pockets are lined by oil revenue. For these individuals, boosting the nation’s economy is no motivation to stop the violence. Warring groups might respond to the urging of their political leaders, though. In support of the economic rationale for peace, a report co-launched by the Institute for International Security explains that if both sides attain and sustain peace, it will bring in more profits for the country and encourage investors. But if Sudan falls into further civil warring, it could cost $100 billion, a price Sudan can’t afford and the international community doesn’t want to pay.</p></blockquote> <p>The content seems to have been first added <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Southern_Sudanese_independence_referendum,_2011&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=401822302">here</a>, with other content also pasted from other sources. I cannot account for the "bot generated title" tag, as I cannot find any evidence that this was copied from another article. But for a few (not exhaustive) examples: </p> <ul><li>"Sudan watchers fear that without the unifying goal of an independent south to fight for, discontent may grow over the government’s poor provision of basic services, corruption and bad behavior by the south’s ill-trained army." comes from <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKMCD832734._CH_.2420">[2]</a> (so does the sentence above it, even though it's referenced to somewhere else).</li> <li>"Those living on the demarcation border and internally displaced (IDP) fear that the South split from the North will harden the border, threatening their livelihood and security." is copied from <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september072010/sudan-referendum-aa.php">[3]</a></li> <li>"According to the International Monetary Fund, Sudan's gross domestic product has nearly tripled since Sudan's president, Omar Hassan al-Bashir took power in 1989" (and, obviously, more) comes from <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Sudan%20growth%20path%20boosts%20al%20Bashirs%20comeback%20chances/-/539546/900280/-/i3pivg/-/index.html">[4]</a>.</li> <li>The entire section beginning "South Sudan is ..crisscrossed" and ending "still more violence could follow" is copied from <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1994209,00.html">[5]</a>. While in quotation marks, the content is extensive and not used for any <a href="/wiki/Transformation_(law)" class="mw-redirect" title="Transformation (law)">transformative</a> purpose, nor is it attributed. It violates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFC">WP:NFC</a>.</li> <li>"The 1,200-mile border region between north and south is among the most resource-rich and ethnically diverse areas of Sudan. Predominantly Arab pastoralists from north of the border who journey southward each year to graze their livestock “fear that demarcation will prevent their seasonal movement.”" is copied entirely from <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/12/AR2010091204286.html">[6]</a>. I have no idea why part of it is in quotation marks but not the rest. Other content is copied from the article ("One of the contested areas encompasses...")</li> <li>"The Misseriya, a tribe that migrates each year to the Abyei region looking for pastures for their cattle, have threatened to carry out acts of violence in the region if they are not allowed to vote." is copied from <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eIpNRVOC8cwJ:www.usafricaonline.com/2010/10/12/talks-over-independence-of-southern-sudan-oil-rich-abyei-region-collapse/+have+threatened+to+carry+out+acts+of+violence+in+the+region+if+they+are+not+allowed+to+vote.&amp;cd=3&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a">[7]</a>.</li></ul> <p>Putting quotation marks around some of the words and minimally altering others does not bring the material in line with our copyright policy, I'm afraid, and instead creates a real risk of forming a <a href="/wiki/Derivative_work" title="Derivative work">derivative work</a>. I believe that unless we can somehow establish that this content was ours before it was published by these multiple sources, all of the content added in that edit needs to be rewritten or excised. --<a href="/wiki/User:Moonriddengirl" title="User:Moonriddengirl">Moonriddengirl</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moonriddengirl" title="User talk:Moonriddengirl">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Moonriddengirl-2011-01-23T18:01:00.000Z-Copyright_status_of_article_text" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moonriddengirl-2011-01-23T18:01:00.000Z-Copyright_status_of_article_text"><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Moonriddengirl" title="User:Moonriddengirl">Moonriddengirl</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moonriddengirl" title="User talk:Moonriddengirl">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Moonriddengirl-2011-01-31T15:19:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 31 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moonriddengirl-2011-01-31T15:19:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a 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It appears to end with South Sudan being one of a number of proposed names, but without showing that was indeed the adopted name or any developments since independence and UN membership. — <a href="/wiki/User:Glenn_L" title="User:Glenn L">Glenn L</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glenn_L" title="User talk:Glenn L">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Glenn_L-2011-11-23T05:43:00.000Z-Article_update?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:43, 23 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glenn_L-2011-11-23T05:43:00.000Z-Article_update?"><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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border: 1px dotted var(--border-color-subtle, #AAAAAA);"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bensci54-20241008164300-Requested_move_1_October_2024"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color: var(--color-error, red);"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a> after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>not moved.</b> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Closure_by_a_page_mover" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">closed by non-admin page mover</a>)</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Bensci54" title="User:Bensci54">Bensci54</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bensci54" title="User talk:Bensci54">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Bensci54-20241008164300-Requested_move_1_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bensci54-20241008164300-Requested_move_1_October_2024"><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bensci54-20241008164300-Requested_move_1_October_2024"></span> </p> <hr> <p><a href="/wiki/2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum" title="2011 South Sudanese independence referendum"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yovt-20241001162200-Requested_move_1_October_2024"></span>2011 South Sudanese independence referendum</a> → <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Sudanese_independence_referendum&amp;redirect=no">South Sudanese independence referendum</a></span> – The inclusion of the year in the current title is unnecessary disambiguation because this was the only independence referendum in <a href="/wiki/History_of_South_Sudan" title="History of South Sudan">South Sudan’s history</a>. There are no other referendums of this nature that require disambiguation by date. Other Wikipedia articles related to referendums generally avoid using years in the titles unless there is a need to distinguish between multiple similar events. So, the simpler title is more appropriate and aligns with Wikipedia’s naming policies, mostly <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONCISE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONCISE">WP:CONCISE</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Yovt" title="User:Yovt">𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yovt" title="User talk:Yovt">𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Yovt-20241001162200-Requested_move_1_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yovt-20241001162200-Requested_move_1_October_2024"><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yovt-20241001162200-Requested_move_1_October_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yovt-20241001162400-Yovt-20241001162200"></span>Note: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_South_Sudan" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South Sudan">WikiProject South Sudan</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elections_and_Referendums" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums">WikiProject Elections and Referendums</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Africa" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Africa">WikiProject Africa</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Politics" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics">WikiProject Politics</a> have been notified of this discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Yovt" title="User:Yovt">𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yovt" title="User talk:Yovt">𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Yovt-20241001162400-Yovt-20241001162200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:24, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yovt-20241001162400-Yovt-20241001162200"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yovt-20241001162400-Yovt-20241001162200"><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elli-20241001162900-Yovt-20241001162200"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Other Wikipedia articles related to referendums generally avoid using years in the titles</q> this isn't really the case; <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCELECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCELECT">WP:NCELECT</a> suggests usually including the year. However I don't have an objection to this move in particular. <a href="/wiki/User:Elli" title="User:Elli">Elli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elli" title="User talk:Elli">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elli" title="Special:Contributions/Elli">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Elli-20241001162900-Yovt-20241001162200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elli-20241001162900-Yovt-20241001162200"><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elli-20241001162900-Yovt-20241001162200"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Number_57-20241001194500-Yovt-20241001162200"></span>Oppose</b> as in contravention of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCELECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCELECT">WP:NCELECT</a>, the naming convention for elections and referendums. As can be seen in <a href="/wiki/Category:Independence_referendums" title="Category:Independence referendums">Category:Independence referendums</a>, all proper independence referendum articles have the year included. <a href="/wiki/User:Number_57" title="User:Number 57"><span style="color: orange;">Number</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Number_57" title="User talk:Number 57"><span style="color: green;">5</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Number_57" title="Special:Contributions/Number 57"><span style="color: blue;">7</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-Number_57-20241001194500-Yovt-20241001162200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Number_57-20241001194500-Yovt-20241001162200"><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Number_57-20241001194500-Yovt-20241001162200"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FuzzyMagma-20241005210300-Yovt-20241001162200"></span>Oppose</b>: per Number 57 <a href="/wiki/User:FuzzyMagma" title="User:FuzzyMagma">FuzzyMagma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FuzzyMagma" title="User talk:FuzzyMagma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2011_South_Sudanese_independence_referendum#c-FuzzyMagma-20241005210300-Yovt-20241001162200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FuzzyMagma-20241005210300-Yovt-20241001162200"><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FuzzyMagma-20241005210300-Yovt-20241001162200"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. 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