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Sections older than 60 days may be automatically archived by <a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a> when more than 5 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Primary_sources_tag_for_APPF">1 Primary sources tag for APPF</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)">2 Kalachuri (Rajput clan)</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Autopatrol_rights">3 Autopatrol rights</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#September_2024_NPP_backlog_drive_%E2%80%93_Points_award">4 September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Glad_to_see_I'm_not_alone_on_this_...">5 Glad to see I'm not alone on this ...</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment">6 Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Redirect_incorrect">7 Redirect incorrect</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Need_your_opinion">8 Need your opinion</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Name">9 Name</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Hello">10 Hello</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Creating_page_after_blocking">11 Creating page after blocking</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#I_learned_a_new_phrase">12 I learned a new phrase</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Indef_of_Mikewem">13 Indef of Mikewem</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#%7B%7Bsources_exist%7D%7D_on_Girl_Anachronism">14 {{sources exist}} on Girl Anachronism</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Illeana_Douglas_&_Talk:Illeana_Douglas">15 Illeana Douglas & Talk:Illeana Douglas</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#A_cup_of_tea_for_you!">16 A cup of tea for you!</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Bloqu%C3%A9_%CE%93%CE%9A%CE%9D%CE%9F%CE%A5?">17 Bloqué ΓΚΝΟΥ?</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Copy_of_recently_deleted_article">18 Copy of recently deleted article</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Scott_Burchill">19 Scott Burchill</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#the_indefinite_topic_ban">20 the indefinite topic ban</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-21"><a href="#Chance_to_respond">20.1 Chance to respond</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-22"><a href="#WP:Tendentious,_relevance_and_source-free">20.2 WP:Tendentious, relevance and source-free</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-23"><a href="#GS/AA,_Polemic_%E2%89%A0_disruptive">20.3 GS/AA, Polemic ≠ disruptive</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Deletion_requests....">21 Deletion requests....</a></li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><h2 id="Primary_sources_tag_for_APPF" data-mw-thread-id="h-Primary_sources_tag_for_APPF-20240925092000">Primary sources tag for APPF</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Primary sources tag for APPF" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-67' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Julius_Schwarz-20240925170900-Rosguill-20240925162900">2 months ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a>, thanks for adding the tag on the page of the APPF. I hadn't realised that most sources were primary, that was a good point. I just added a number of third-party sources to the article in several sections. I have to say that there just isn't much around; it's just not a very news-worthy agency at this point. Would you want to check the article again and see whether it would be justified to remove the banner? <a href="/wiki/User:Julius_Schwarz" title="User:Julius Schwarz">Julius Schwarz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Julius_Schwarz" title="User talk:Julius Schwarz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Julius_Schwarz-20240925092000-Primary_sources_tag_for_APPF" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Julius_Schwarz" title="User:Julius Schwarz">Julius Schwarz</a>, the new citations are an improvement, but overall the bulk of the article's text and analysis still relies predominantly on the primary sources. You may have better luck looking for coverage in scholarly publications (i.e. check Google Scholar) as academics will presumably be investigating and writing about the bodies and functions of the EU even if they haven't necessarily done anything conventionally newsworthy yet. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20240925162900-Julius_Schwarz-20240925092000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a>, thanks for the quick reply. In truth, I have already looked at academic sources and there isn't much. Just now I bookmarked a few more to go through later and possibly add if relevant. But the fact is that this agency is still rather new (set up in 2016 but really started its work in 2018) and deals with entities that already receive limited attention. So even after I add additional sources, the fact that primary sources remain the bulk of the sources will remain true for a very long time. It's not that the research is not done and the banner could incentivise users to add sources, it's just that there is a dearth of sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Julius_Schwarz" title="User:Julius Schwarz">Julius Schwarz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Julius_Schwarz" title="User talk:Julius Schwarz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Julius_Schwarz-20240925170900-Rosguill-20240925162900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)"><h2 id="Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)-20240930051700"><a href="/wiki/Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)" class="mw-redirect" title="Kalachuri (Rajput clan)">Kalachuri (Rajput clan)</a></h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Kalachuri (Rajput clan)" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-68' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-2409:4085:9C46:2345:0:0:8849:7B15-20240930051700-Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)">1 month ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> Hello @<a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a>. Please look at <a href="/wiki/Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)" class="mw-redirect" title="Kalachuri (Rajput clan)">Kalachuri (Rajput clan)</a> whose origin is uncertain. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)&diff=prev&oldid=1247602920">[1]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)&diff=prev&oldid=1247453431">[2]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)&diff=prev&oldid=1247600675">[3]</a>. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2409:4085:9C46:2345:0:0:8849:7B15" title="Special:Contributions/2409:4085:9C46:2345:0:0:8849:7B15">2409:4085:9C46:2345:0:0:8849:7B15</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2409:4085:9C46:2345:0:0:8849:7B15&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2409:4085:9C46:2345:0:0:8849:7B15 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-2409:4085:9C46:2345:0:0:8849:7B15-20240930051700-Kalachuri_(Rajput_clan)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)"><h2 id="Autopatrol_rights" data-mw-thread-id="h-Autopatrol_rights-20241001103800">Autopatrol rights</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Autopatrol rights" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-69' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Conyo14-20241001103800-Autopatrol_rights">1 month ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> Hello there, I'd like to personally thank you for granting me the autopatrol rights on a temporary basis for the backlog drive. I learned quite a bit from this journey, but I don't believe I am ready for the permanent right yet. I want to do some more content creation to understand some of the different nuances of going through different review statuses as well as experience more article creation as a user. Plus, I had made some boneheaded mistakes like a clear copy-paste violation instead of a move. So, ultimately my time as a perm is not yet, but I shall pursue it some time in the future. Thank you for letting me taste what could be. In return, here is something you could taste: <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Choco_chip_cookie.png" class="mw-file-description"><noscript><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/150px-Choco_chip_cookie.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="104" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="557"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 150px;height: 104px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/150px-Choco_chip_cookie.png" data-width="150" data-height="104" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/225px-Choco_chip_cookie.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/300px-Choco_chip_cookie.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <a href="/wiki/User:Conyo14" title="User:Conyo14">Conyo14</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Conyo14" title="User talk:Conyo14">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Conyo14-20241001103800-Autopatrol_rights" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)"><h2 id="September_2024_NPP_backlog_drive_–_Points_award" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_2024_NPP_backlog_drive_–_Points_award-20241007152400">September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-70' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241007152400-September_2024_NPP_backlog_drive_–_Points_award">1 month ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar-RTFM.png" class="mw-file-description"><noscript><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Barnstar-RTFM.png/100px-Barnstar-RTFM.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="94" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="115" data-file-height="108"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 100px;height: 94px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Barnstar-RTFM.png/100px-Barnstar-RTFM.png" data-width="100" data-height="94" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Barnstar-RTFM.png 1.5x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </a> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;">The Reviewer Barnstar </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">This award is given in recognition to Rosguill for accumulating at least 50 points during the September 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 19,000+ articles and 35,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 26,884.6 points) completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241007152400-September_2024_NPP_backlog_drive_%E2%80%93_Points_award" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:24, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)"><h2 id="Glad_to_see_I'm_not_alone_on_this_..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Glad_to_see_I'm_not_alone_on_this_...-20241015215600">Glad to see I'm not alone on this ...</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Glad to see I'm not alone on this ..." class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-71' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241015225400-Daniel_Case-20241015223400">1 month ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> Per <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1251349223">your comment here</a>: I have on several occasions in the last few months lamented the fact that, despite the increasing amount of protection and edit warring we see in articles related to it, the <a href="/wiki/Maghreb" title="Maghreb">Maghreb</a> is not a contentious topic area. It is getting to be as problematic as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBHORN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBHORN">the Horn</a>. Had I the time and greater knowledge of where to dig up the evidence on it, I'd put together a request to ArbCom to make that designation, much as they did with Sri Lanka earlier this year (the first time a CTOP has been created outside of a case specific to that area). <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Case" title="User:Daniel Case">Daniel Case</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Case" title="User talk:Daniel Case">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Daniel_Case-20241015215600-Glad_to_see_I'm_not_alone_on_this_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Case" title="User:Daniel Case">Daniel Case</a>, anecdotally I feel like I've always run into more disruption around North African topics than the Horn. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241015223200-Daniel_Case-20241015215600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>That may have to do with the latter's CTOPS designation.</dd> <dd>It's not the only area that would be under CTOPS if it were purely up to me ... <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Case" title="User:Daniel Case">Daniel Case</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Case" title="User talk:Daniel Case">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Daniel_Case-20241015223400-Rosguill-20241015223200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Perhaps, although this may have been true even before then? I've edited and kept tabs on a slew of country-history and country-religion articles since before ARBHORN and feel like I've pretty consistently seen the most disruption around Egypt, Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia (and the most vandalism in Latin America and Oceania). But maybe that lens doesn't capture what people fight about in East Africa topics.</dd> <dd>At a certain point, I wonder whether we could just have a CTOP designation for national disputes in general. With only a few exceptions, they're the root problem of almost all of the most problematic CTOP areas signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241015225400-Daniel_Case-20241015223400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(6)"><h2 id="Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment-20241017053000">Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-72' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Naypta-20241017053000-Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment">1 month ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/48px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 48px;height: 48px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/48px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="48" data-height="48" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/72px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/96px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> <figcaption></figcaption></figure>Your feedback is requested at <a href="/wiki/Talk:John_Rustad#rfc_959C3B8" title="Talk:John Rustad">Talk:John Rustad on a "All RFCs" request for comment</a>. 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Contact <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naypta" title="User talk:Naypta">my bot operator</a>. | Sent at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Naypta-20241017053000-Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(7)"><h2 id="Redirect_incorrect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redirect_incorrect-20241017095900">Redirect incorrect</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Redirect incorrect" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-73' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241017132500-Nurbaksh-20241017095900">1 month ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-7 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-7"> Dear Rosguill, I am a brandnew Wikipedia editor, asking for help. I have been a member of the International Sufi Movement (ISM), or rather one of its affiliates for 30+ years. This is an organisation founded in 1923 in Geneva, by Hazrat Inayat Khan, a sufi teacher that moved to the west. This organisation is still very much alive. To my surprise I found that a redirect was put in, redirecting to an organisation called the Inayattya order. That is also still alive, and it split off in the 1950's or such from our movement. This is fine with me, the more the merrier, so to say. So I set out and registered as an editor. I feel this is an act of mischief, the entire information about the ISM has been erased from the active wikipedia. I saw that someone had deleted the redirect, claiming that the ISM and the Inayattya are different organisations, which is correct. It appears that you later reversed that delete. Can I ask you why? I feel I am too young as a wikipedian to reverse an administrator without consult first! But ultimately we have a strong case based on documents and facts, and I hope we can solve this without editing wars or something like that! Best regards, Nurbaksh / Mark Veldhuis. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nurbaksh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nurbaksh (page does not exist)">Nurbaksh</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nurbaksh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Nurbaksh (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Nurbaksh-20241017095900-Redirect_incorrect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nurbaksh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nurbaksh (page does not exist)">Nurbaksh</a>, looking at the page history, it looks like a version of the article was first created in 2005 and deleted later that year following <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/International_Sufi_Movement" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Sufi Movement">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Sufi Movement</a>. A separate version was created in 2007 and existed until 2010, when it was converted to a redirect following the removal of copyright-infringing text and an assessment by the editor performing the edit that the page was a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CFORK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CFORK">fork</a> of <a href="/wiki/Universal_Sufism" class="mw-redirect" title="Universal Sufism">Universal Sufism</a>. This was changed to be a redirect to <a href="/wiki/Inayati_Order" title="Inayati Order">Inayati Order</a> by a different editor in 2016. My only edit to the page has been to reverse a mistaken attempt to delete the page in 2020 by simply removing its whole content (which is not the correct process).</dd> <dd>So, with all that in mind but without having looked at any of the sourcing in detail, my assessment is that 1) the prior versions of this article were removed through what appears to have been above board, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">good-faith</a> editing, not <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">mischief</q> 2) nevertheless, it's been more than a decade since anyone has tried to create an article for this topic or otherwise discussed the validity of such an attempt, so any editor can feel free to convert the redirect into an actual article at this time 3) but I would first check <a href="/wiki/Western_Sufism" title="Western Sufism">Western Sufism</a> (the more recent title of the <a href="/wiki/Universal_Sufism" class="mw-redirect" title="Universal Sufism">Universal Sufism</a> page) and other related Sufism articles in order to confirm that we're not accidentally creating a fork.</dd> <dd>Since you are a member of the ISM, you have a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a> with the topic, which you should disclose on your user page and on the talk page of <a href="/wiki/International_Sufi_Movement" class="mw-redirect" title="International Sufi Movement">International Sufi Movement</a> if you decide to edit it extensively. Also per the COI guidelines I linked in the prior sentence, if you choose to create an article on this topic, you should use <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">Wikipedia:Articles for creation</a> to prepare and submit a draft for review. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241017132500-Nurbaksh-20241017095900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(8)"><h2 id="Need_your_opinion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_your_opinion-20241017162700">Need your opinion</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Need your opinion" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-74' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241017170500-Kansas_Bear-20241017162700">1 month ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-8 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-8"> I have, since late September, noticed an influx of IPs that are editing the same articles as <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Armen888/Archive">blocked user:Armen888.</a> These IPs edit solely in Armenian topics adding questionable information and [WP:JDLI|deleting referenced information]. When I logged in today one of these IPs has now <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CANVASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CANVASS">canvassed</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yerevantsi&diff=prev&oldid=1251668301">user:Yerevantsi about my removing Armenian ethnicity</a> from the <a href="/wiki/David_the_Invincible" title="David the Invincible">David the Invincible</a> article since a university source questions his ethnicity. IPs in question. <ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.71.29.196">46.71.29.196</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.71.89.45">46.71.89.45</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.77.199.48">5.77.199.48</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=46.71.209.89">46.71.201.89</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=46.71.135.74">46.71.135.74</a></li></ul> My question is, can we protect the articles(under WP:GS/AA enforcement 500/30 restrictions) these IPs continue to disrupt or would filing an SPI be a more prudent action? Or both? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kansas_Bear" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Kansas Bear">Kansas Bear</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kansas_Bear" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Kansas Bear">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Kansas_Bear-20241017162700-Need_your_opinion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Kansas_Bear" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Kansas Bear">Kansas Bear</a>, I think SPI seems most appropriate here given the range of articles affected. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&end=&namespace=all&start=&tagfilter=&target=46.71.0.0%2F16&limit=500">This IP range</a> may merit investigation, although there is some noise that doesn't quite match Armen888. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241017170500-Kansas_Bear-20241017162700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(9)"><h2 id="Name" data-mw-thread-id="h-Name-20241021052300">Name</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Name" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-75' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241022142000-Owais_Al_Qarni-20241022065500">1 month ago</a>5 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-9 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-9"> Hello, please review <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rezaul_Karim_(scholar)&diff=prev&oldid=988528514">this</a> edit. It’s not a title; it’s part of his name. It represents a genre of Bangladeshi names, similar to <a href="/wiki/Syed_Shamsul_Haque" title="Syed Shamsul Haque">Syed Shamsul Haque</a>.–<a href="/wiki/User:Owais_Al_Qarni" title="User:Owais Al Qarni">𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Owais_Al_Qarni-20241021052300-Name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:23, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 18px;height: 18px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="18" data-height="18" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element">  Done signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241021130300-Owais_Al_Qarni-20241021052300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Thanks. However, we don't need "(scholar)" as there is no article by that name.–<a href="/wiki/User:Owais_Al_Qarni" title="User:Owais Al Qarni">𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Owais_Al_Qarni-20241021132500-Rosguill-20241021130300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Hello, I would like to draw your attention to the article <a href="/wiki/Fazlul_Karim_(scholar)" class="mw-redirect" title="Fazlul Karim (scholar)">Fazlul Karim (scholar)</a>. It should be renamed to <a href="/wiki/Syed_Fazlul_Karim" title="Syed Fazlul Karim">Syed Fazlul Karim</a>. He was the father of <a href="/wiki/Syed_Rezaul_Karim" title="Syed Rezaul Karim">Syed Rezaul Karim</a> and <a href="/wiki/Syed_Faizul_Karim" title="Syed Faizul Karim">Syed Faizul Karim</a>, and the son of <a href="/wiki/Syed_Muhammad_Ishaq" title="Syed Muhammad Ishaq">Syed Muhammad Ishaq</a>.–<a href="/wiki/User:Owais_Al_Qarni" title="User:Owais Al Qarni">𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Owais_Al_Qarni-20241022065500-Owais_Al_Qarni-20241021132500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Owais_Al_Qarni" title="User:Owais Al Qarni">Owais Al Qarni</a>, <noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 18px;height: 18px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="18" data-height="18" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element">  Done, in the future you can also bring such requests to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">WP:RM</a>. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241022142000-Owais_Al_Qarni-20241022065500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(10)"><h2 id="Hello" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello-20241021190700">Hello</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Hello" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-76' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241021191200-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241021190700">1 month ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-10 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-10"> On <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFugabus&diff=1252509573&oldid=1252102922">[4]</a>, if I may suggest a "broadly construed" on that. Articles like <a href="/wiki/Biafra" title="Biafra">Biafra</a>, their draft(s?) etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng-20241021190700-Hello" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Yes, it was intended as broadly construed, such that any group Ekpa has belonged to would be in-scope (but I'll make sure to clarify that before moving forward). Hypothetically I think there could be room for constructive editing about <a href="/wiki/Biafra" title="Biafra">Biafra</a> as long as it doesn't overlap with Ekpa and his government-in-exile activities, which to my reading comprise the clear focal point of the sockpuppetry. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241021191200-Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng-20241021190700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(11)"><h2 id="Creating_page_after_blocking" data-mw-thread-id="h-Creating_page_after_blocking-20241026173600">Creating page after blocking</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Creating page after blocking" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-77' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241026201600-अर्नाब5454-20241026173600">1 month ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-11 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-11"> <a href="/wiki/User:SOURAVSHETTIGAR" title="User:SOURAVSHETTIGAR">User:SOURAVSHETTIGAR</a> now used User:2402:8100:2818:6FA2:0:0:0:1 for undid your editing in <a href="/wiki/Bharathiya_Janata_Party,_Kerala" class="mw-redirect" title="Bharathiya Janata Party, Kerala">Bharathiya Janata Party, Kerala</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bharatiya_Janata_Party,_Puducherry" class="mw-redirect" title="Bharatiya Janata Party, Puducherry">Bharatiya Janata Party, Puducherry</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bharatiya_Janata_Party,_Tamil_Nadu" class="mw-redirect" title="Bharatiya Janata Party, Tamil Nadu">Bharatiya Janata Party, Tamil Nadu</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AC5454&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:अर्नाब5454 (page does not exist)">अर्नाब5454</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AC5454&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:अर्नाब5454 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AC5454-20241026173600-Creating_page_after_blocking" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>It seems like the IP has in all three cases started essentially a new article from scratch, rather than reverting to the prior edit. It may still be inappropriate to create these articles, but I'm not quite sure this is sockpuppetry. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241026201600-%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AC5454-20241026173600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(12)"><h2 id="I_learned_a_new_phrase" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_learned_a_new_phrase-20241028204600">I learned a new phrase</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: I learned a new phrase" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-78' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241028205000-TrangaBellam-20241028204600">30 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-12 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-12"> Lol, have never heard of it before! <a href="/wiki/User:TrangaBellam" title="User:TrangaBellam">TrangaBellam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TrangaBellam" title="User talk:TrangaBellam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-TrangaBellam-20241028204600-I_learned_a_new_phrase" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Ha, if we had an article I would have linked it. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241028205000-TrangaBellam-20241028204600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(13)"><h2 id="Indef_of_Mikewem" data-mw-thread-id="h-Indef_of_Mikewem-20241029203100">Indef of Mikewem</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Indef of Mikewem" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-79' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241029212500-Rosguill-20241029210100">29 days ago</a>5 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-13 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-13"> I'm reaching out because I think an indef might be a bit too much in this instance. Due to the inherently bitey nature of ECR their reaction wasn't unexpected, and although they needed to let it go i think that putting them into AE appeals to be unblocked with so little experience is essentially going to end their time as a contributor. Hopefully if they had a short forced timeout that would give them time to read the CTOP info and reach out for any clarification, as well as let the initial bite wear wear off so they could engage with a level head. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241029203100-Indef_of_Mikewem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a>, I would be open to waiving the need to appeal to AE if they indicate an understanding of what is expected of them and of CT editing moving forward. I don't see any such recognition thus far, and instead see clear intent to continuously litigate and selectively read what is communicated to them. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241029204000-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241029203100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thanks, I think that's reasonable. I don't think the chance is high, in my experience less than 5%, that they'll become a regular editor but at least this way we can say we tried. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241029205500-Rosguill-20241029204000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>FWIW, one thing that did factor into my initial decision was that reviewing their edits, even before the issue at Talk:Zionism, they had a confrontational interaction with PakEditor at <a href="/wiki/Liturgy" title="Liturgy">Liturgy</a>, where they asserted that they were upholding NPOV by what appears to be a misreading of the text, misunderstanding a sentence asserting that liturgy can specifically refer to Christian public prayer (with an unambiguous, verbatim citation to OED) to be somehow minimizing other religions. While Mikewem has to their credit mostly remained calm/polite, at pretty much every turn they've demonstrated a lack of due diligence, an inability to admit fault, and a tendency to assume bad faith. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241029210100-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241029205500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I agree. I don't want to give the impression that I think this was an unreasonable block, just that I thought that a lighter sanction might give a chance at a better outcome. I really appreciate you hearing me out about it, as well as being receptive enough to make an adjustment. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241029212500-Rosguill-20241029210100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(14)"><h2 id="{{sources_exist}}_on_Girl_Anachronism" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{sources_exist}}_on_Girl_Anachronism-20241031170900">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Sources_exist" title="Template:Sources exist">sources exist</a>}} on <a href="/wiki/Girl_Anachronism" class="mw-redirect" title="Girl Anachronism">Girl Anachronism</a></h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: {{sources exist}} on Girl Anachronism" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-80' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241031174900-Mach61-20241031174600">27 days ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-14 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-14"> Would you please add a {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Refideas" title="Template:Refideas">refideas</a>}} template to the talk page with the Google Scholar sources? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mach61" title="User talk:Mach61">Mach61</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Mach61-20241031170900-%7B%7Bsources_exist%7D%7D_on_Girl_Anachronism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I ended up self-reverting the addition of the template, as on closer investigation the papers I found were all undergraduate or Master's publications. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241031173200-Mach61-20241031170900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I have accordingly unreviewed the article. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mach61" title="User talk:Mach61">Mach61</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Mach61-20241031174600-Rosguill-20241031173200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thanks, meant to do that but evidently missed that step. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241031174900-Mach61-20241031174600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(15)"><h2 id="Illeana_Douglas_&_Talk:Illeana_Douglas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Illeana_Douglas_&_Talk:Illeana_Douglas-20241102000900">Illeana Douglas & Talk:Illeana Douglas</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Illeana Douglas & Talk:Illeana Douglas" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-81' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241102050300-69.181.17.113-20241102002100">25 days ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-15 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-15"> <a href="/wiki/Illeana_Douglas" title="Illeana Douglas">Illeana Douglas</a> & <a href="/wiki/Talk:Illeana_Douglas" title="Talk:Illeana Douglas">Talk:Illeana Douglas</a> are currently disabled by new or unregistered users (so far, three years). would you re-enable? ... <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.181.17.113" title="Special:Contributions/69.181.17.113">69.181.17.113</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:69.181.17.113" title="User talk:69.181.17.113">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-69.181.17.113-20241102000900-Illeana_Douglas_&_Talk:Illeana_Douglas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>restore this?</dd> <dd>{{Notice|1=This talk page is semi-protected due the [[WP:BLP]] policy. If you want to request an edit on this page click [[WP:RFED|here]] instead.}}</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.181.17.113" title="Special:Contributions/69.181.17.113">69.181.17.113</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:69.181.17.113" title="User talk:69.181.17.113">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-69.181.17.113-20241102001800-69.181.17.113-20241102000900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>need to show Melvyn Douglas (Melvyn Edouard Hesselberg) is grandfather to Illeana Douglas (Hesselberg) <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.181.17.113" title="Special:Contributions/69.181.17.113">69.181.17.113</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:69.181.17.113" title="User talk:69.181.17.113">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-69.181.17.113-20241102002100-69.181.17.113-20241102001800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Do you have a source for this claim? signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241102050300-69.181.17.113-20241102002100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:03, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(16)"><h2 id="A_cup_of_tea_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_cup_of_tea_for_you!-20241105171600">A cup of tea for you!</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: A cup of tea for you!" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-82' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Aafi-20241105173900-Rosguill-20241105172700">22 days ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-16 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-16"> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><a href="/wiki/File:Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><noscript><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg/120px-Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="90" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1500"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 120px;height: 90px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg/120px-Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg" data-width="120" data-height="90" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg/180px-Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg/240px-Meissen-teacup_pinkrose01.jpg 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </a> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">I was looking for a Mentorship barnstar, but unfortunately couldn't. Sending over this cup of tea (perhaps because I'm biased towards tea, I like it much more than any other thing) to appreciate everything that I learned from you during my NPR schooling. Earlier this year, I passed my RfA on Wikimedia Commons and then on Urdu Wikipedia, and over the years, have been gladly able to attend several Wikimedia events. I have always been through a lot of wiki-tech and volunteer as a translation administrator across several wikis. I recently came across you again at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VRTN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VRTN">WP:VRTN</a>, and I remembered, I have a thanks due. You have been a kind mentor. Thank you for being here. I have learned a lot from you. Thank you for making this difference. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Aafi" title="User:Aafi">Aafi</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aafi" title="User talk:Aafi"> (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Aafi-20241105171600-A_cup_of_tea_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Aafi" title="User:Aafi">Aafi</a>, I'm touched, thank you. If we ever cross paths at a Wikimedia event we should definitely share some tea. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241105172700-Aafi-20241105171600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I am hopeful. Thank you for responding. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Aafi" title="User:Aafi">Aafi</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aafi" title="User talk:Aafi"> (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Aafi-20241105173900-Rosguill-20241105172700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(17)"><h2 id="Bloqué_ΓΚΝΟΥ?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bloqué_ΓΚΝΟΥ?-20241106234900">Bloqué ΓΚΝΟΥ?</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Bloqué ΓΚΝΟΥ?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-83' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241107001300-Myrealnamm-20241106234900">20 days ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-17 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-17"> Perhaps tu should bloqué cette l'utilisateur? Il/elle engage dans disruptive editing. (LOL) <a href="/wiki/User:Myrealnamm" title="User:Myrealnamm">Myrealnamm</a> <big>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Myrealnamm" title="User talk:Myrealnamm">💬pros</a></big> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Myrealnamm" title="Special:Contributions/Myrealnamm">📜cons</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Myrealnamm-20241106234900-Bloqu%C3%A9_%CE%93%CE%9A%CE%9D%CE%9F%CE%A5?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>S'il continue ouis, mais iel n'avait pas editée plus apres l'avertissement finale. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241107001300-Myrealnamm-20241106234900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(18)"><h2 id="Copy_of_recently_deleted_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copy_of_recently_deleted_article-20241111124900">Copy of recently deleted article</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Copy of recently deleted article" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-84' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Selfstudier-20241111143500-Selfstudier-20241111124900">16 days ago</a>2 comments1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-18 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-18"> Hi, any chance of letting me have a copy of <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Israeli_destruction_of_the_Gaza_Strip_healthcare_system">this article</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Selfstudier" title="User:Selfstudier">Selfstudier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Selfstudier" title="User talk:Selfstudier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Selfstudier-20241111124900-Copy_of_recently_deleted_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Just ignore this, I have a copy now, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Selfstudier" title="User:Selfstudier">Selfstudier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Selfstudier" title="User talk:Selfstudier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Selfstudier-20241111143500-Selfstudier-20241111124900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(19)"><h2 id="Scott_Burchill" data-mw-thread-id="h-Scott_Burchill-20241112193200">Scott Burchill</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Scott Burchill" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-85' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Simonm223-20241112194500-Rosguill-20241112194200">15 days ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-19 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-19"> Thanks for bringing this theorist to my attention. I think I'll enjoy reading some of his work. <a href="/wiki/User:Simonm223" title="User:Simonm223">Simonm223</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simonm223" title="User talk:Simonm223">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Simonm223-20241112193200-Scott_Burchill" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>In addition to his picking apart of media memes in the broader text I linked at AE, his papers on Liberal <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9780230005778_5">[5]</a>, Marxist and Anarchist <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9780230005778_4">[6]</a> views of the state, as well as the broader place of Marxian theory in international relations academia <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://dro.deakin.edu.au/articles/chapter/Marxism/20552733/1/files/36779013.pdf">[7]</a> are interesting. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241112194200-Simonm223-20241112193200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Ooo, thanks! Those look right up my alley. <a href="/wiki/User:Simonm223" title="User:Simonm223">Simonm223</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simonm223" title="User talk:Simonm223">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Simonm223-20241112194500-Rosguill-20241112194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(20)"><h2 id="the_indefinite_topic_ban" data-mw-thread-id="h-the_indefinite_topic_ban-20241114113900">the indefinite topic ban</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: the indefinite topic ban" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-86' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Firefangledfeathers-20241118204400-Hew_Folly-20241118194200">9 days ago</a>13 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-20 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-20"> Hello, Rosguill. Yesterday I was left heartbroken after being banned from the AA topic by you without a chance to respond to the Vanezi's misrepresenting claims. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly#Formal_warning,_GS/AA:~:text=Even%20if%20you%20appeal%20this%20sanction%2C%20you%20remain%20bound%20by%20it%20until%20you%20are%20notified%20by%20an%20uninvolved%20administrator%20that%20the%20appeal%20has%20been%20successful">[8]</a> May I write my response to Vanezi that would consist of a table and several references to the AA topic? Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Hew_Folly" title="User:Hew Folly">Hew Folly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly" title="User talk:Hew Folly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Hew_Folly-20241114113900-the_indefinite_topic_ban" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Hew_Folly" title="User:Hew Folly">Hew Folly</a>, no. <s>I gave you a chance to respond, waiting until you continued editing before addressing the concerns raised. You ignored the concerns, and proceeded to post a</s> The message on Lucky102's talk page alone is clearly against the letter and spirit of GS/AA and merits a ban after having received the prior warnings from Firefangledfeathers (as would the edits I identified from the report). You have received sufficient warnings and second chances already. Your remaining recourse is to follow the standard appeals procedures described in the ban notice. I would strongly recommend that you first demonstrably build up your editing skills and dedication to Wikipedia by making significant contributions to other topics. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241114140400-Hew_Folly-20241114113900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Chance_to_respond" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chance_to_respond-the_indefinite_topic_ban-20241114180300">Chance to respond</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Chance to respond" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">I gave you a chance to respond, waiting until you continued editing before addressing the concerns raised. You ignored the concerns, and proceeded to post a The message on Lucky102's talk page alone is clearly against the letter... </q></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>I propose to look through chronology:</dd> <dd>My post on Lucky102's talk page was written at 05:16 on November 12, 2024 <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hew_Folly#:~:text=05%3A16%2C%2012,Reverted%20New%20topic">[9]</a>.</dd> <dd>Vanezi wrote his distorted claims <big> more than 16 hours later</big>, at 22:13, November 12. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hew_Folly&action=history#:~:text=12%20November%202024-,curprev,Tag%3A%20Reply,-8%20August%202024">[10]</a></dd> <dd>And you issued your ban less than 24 hours after the Vanetsi's letter in the absence of my answer, at 14:55, next day, November 13.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly#c-Rosguill-20241113145500-Vanezi_Astghik-20241112221300">[11]</a>. And then issued your ban notice right after that(one minute later), at 14:56, November 13 <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly#:~:text=14%3A56%2C%2013%20November%202024%20(UTC)">[12]</a>, and then on the AEL page, just three minutes later or at 14:59, November 13.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_enforcement_log/2024&action=history#:~:text=13%20November%202024-,curprev,Tag%3A%202017%20wikitext%20editor,-curprev">[13]</a></dd> <dd>All my edits after the Vanezi's letter were either related to my response on my draft page or those posted on your talk page on starting from 16:10 November 13 to November 14. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hew_Folly#:~:text=11%3A57%2C%2014,Tag%3A%20Reverted">[14]</a>. Last but not least, the edits were done more than 1 hour after you imposed your ban, and not before.</dd> <dd>Conclusion: you technically couldn't impose your ban due to alegged disregard to the raised issue (in the form of post on Lucky102 and edits after the issue) from my side for the following reasons:</dd> <dd>1. My post on the Luck102's page was written before the issue was ever raised. </dd> <dd>2. All my edits after the issue was raised were not only related to the issue itself but were also done after the ban was actually imposed. </dd> <dd>Do you agree?</dd> <dd>Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Hew_Folly" title="User:Hew Folly">Hew Folly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly" title="User talk:Hew Folly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Hew_Folly-20241114180300-Chance_to_respond" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WIKILAWYER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WIKILAWYER">WP:WIKILAWYER</a>. I still think the ban is warranted for the reasons I have already laid out, I do not disagree with the technicalities you point out but they're ultimately irrelevant. You have not demonstrated care for abiding by GS/AA after warnings; no further warning or response was required following the initial CTOPs notice left by FireFangledFeathers about 3 months ago. I'll also note that you're addressing comments that I had already struck and amended as of several hours ago. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241114180500-Hew_Folly-20241114180300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">See WP:WIKILAWYER. I still think the ban is warranted for the reasons I have already laid out, I do not disagree with the technicalities you point out but they're ultimately irrelevant.</q></dd> <dd>Sure, I have some questions about them, too. But let's finish this one, because there's still some unclarity about that:</dd> <dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">I'll also note that you're addressing comments that I had already struck and amended as of several hours ago</q></dd> <dd>I have checked both the older and current versions and noticed that only one of the comments I addressed <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#:~:text=1.%20My%20post,was%20actually%20imposed.">[15]</a> was struck <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&oldid=1257490640#:~:text=until%20you%20continued%20editing%20before%20addressing%20the%20concerns%20raised.-,You%20ignored%20the%20concerns%2C%20and%20proceeded%20to%20post%20a%20The%20message%20on%20Lucky102%27s,-talk%20page%20alone%20is%20clearly%20against%20the%20letter%20and">[16]</a>, while the first line (<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">I gave you a chance to respond, waiting until you continued editing before addressing the concerns raised.</q>) remains unchanged in both versions. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&oldid=1257354990#:~:text=I%20gave%20you%20a%20chance%20to%20respond%2C%20waiting%20until%20you%20continued%20editing%20before%20addressing%20the%20concerns%20raised.">[17]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&oldid=1257490640#:~:text=Folly%2C%20no.-,I%20gave%20you%20a%20chance%20to%20respond%2C%20waiting%20until%20you%20continued%20editing%20before%20addressing%20the%20concerns%20raised.,-You%20ignored%20the">[18]</a>.</dd> <dd>Let me just clarify if you still stand with it.</dd> <dd>Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Hew_Folly" title="User:Hew Folly">Hew Folly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly" title="User talk:Hew Folly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Hew_Folly-20241115073700-Rosguill-20241114180500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:37, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Apologies for the error in the application of the text striking. This has now been addressed. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241115162100-Hew_Folly-20241115073700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thank you! We have finished this part and now I suggest to start working on the next one. <a href="/wiki/User:Hew_Folly" title="User:Hew Folly">Hew Folly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly" title="User talk:Hew Folly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Hew_Folly-20241115165300-Rosguill-20241115162100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="WP:Tendentious,_relevance_and_source-free" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:Tendentious,_relevance_and_source-free-the_indefinite_topic_ban-20241115192500">WP:Tendentious, relevance and source-free</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: WP:Tendentious, relevance and source-free" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> After our previous discussion, I appreciate your modified post on my talk page. Although there is still some unclarity: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">I am also deeply concerned by the most recent comment, which is another irrelevant, RGW and source-free statement about Armenia-Azerbaijan.</q> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hew_Folly&oldid=1257157296#:~:text=Hew%20Folly%20has%20elected%20to%20continue%20with%20the%20irrelevant%2C%20RGW%20and%20source%2Dfree%20comments%20about%20Armenia%2DAzerbaijan.">[19]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hew_Folly&oldid=1257363093#Notice_that_you_are_now_subject_to_an_arbitration_enforcement_topic_ban:~:text=Instead%20of%20addressing%20these%20concerns%20raised%20here%2C%20Hew%20Folly%20has%20elected%20to%20I%20am%20also%20deeply%20concerned%20by%20the%20most%20recent%20comment%2C%20which%20is%20another%20irrelevant%2C%20RGW%20and%20source%2Dfree%20statement%20about%20Armenia%2DAzerbaijan.">[20]</a> So, we have two comments: Mine and that of Lucky102: 1. The Lucky102's post was written on a Stepanakert talk page <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1196935543#Requested_move_4_January_2024:~:text=Oppose%20The%20name%20of%20this%20article%20should%20remain%20as%20Stepanakert%20in%20my%20view%20as%20Wikipedia%20should%20uphold%20the%20values%20of%20humanitarianism.">[21]</a> that was published on January 16, at 06:06. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1196935543#Requested_move_4_January_2024:~:text=09%3A06%2C%2016%20January%202024%20(UTC)">[22]</a>.Note: as you can see, Lucky102's post was published with no links but WP:OR (which is legitimate for a Talk page), supported by links to Wikipedia pages <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1196935543#Requested_move_4_January_2024:~:text=We%20see%20in%20general%20examples%20such%20as%20Bolzano%2C%20Bienne%2C">[23]</a>, not specific sources, proper. 2. My post on his Talk page published several months later on November 12, at 05:16. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lucky102&oldid=1256914171#Stepan_Shahumian_and_Humanitarianism:~:text=Hi%2C%20Lucky102.,November%202024%20(UTC)">[24]</a>. Note: this post, as you can see, was tagged with a link to his post on another talk page<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lucky102&oldid=1256914171#Stepan_Shahumian_and_Humanitarianism:~:text=of%20humanitarianism%5B-,8%5D%2C,-but%20with%20a">[25]</a>, and provided with a source<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lucky102&oldid=1256914171#Stepan_Shahumian_and_Humanitarianism:~:text=and%20ethnic%20terror-,%5B9%5D%2C,-should%20indeed%20be">[26]</a> to a text on another Wikipedia page that itself had a source <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=March_Days&oldid=1256791234#:~:text=Later%20Shahumyan%20admitted,%5B35%5D">[27]</a>. Was my statement on the Lucky102's source-free, as you mentioned here <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hew_Folly&oldid=1257363093#:~:text=irrelevant%2C%20RGW%20and-,source%2Dfree,-statement%20about%20Armenia">[28]</a> ?— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Hew_Folly" title="User:Hew Folly">Hew Folly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly#top" title="User talk:Hew Folly">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hew_Folly" title="Special:Contributions/Hew Folly">contribs</a>) <dl><dd>The difference is that as an editor who is not yet extended confirmed, you are expressly forbidden from making any edits to this topic at all, unless they are obviously constructive improvements like correcting spelling mistakes, updating information based on RS, etc. Lucky102's comment in this case does appear to be subpar and reflects poorly of them. If they exhibit a consistent pattern of behavior in this fashion, they may face sanctions. But as an editor with more than 500 edits and 30 days, they are allowed to participate and that means some leeway for being less-than-constructive in discussions. You have not reached that level of clearance, and thus are held to a higher standard per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GS/AA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GS/AA">WP:GS/AA</a>. The exceptions to GS/AA exist to allow us to accept clearly beneficial edits that no one would object to; you have repeatedly abused them to make polemic arguments on talk pages, and for this reason you have been indefinitely banned from the topic.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I believe that I have sufficiently explained the grounds for the sanction. Any further appeals should be made to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AE">WP:AE</a>. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241115192500-WP:Tendentious,_relevance_and_source-free" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">I believe that I have sufficiently explained the grounds for the sanction. Any further appeals should be made to WP:AE</q></dd> <dd>To appeal to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement">WP:AE</a> (or any other relevant Wikipedia arbitral institution) is exactly what I am planning to do, but I need to clarify all the unclear issues, as you recommended yourself <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hew_Folly&oldid=1257157296#:~:text=You%20are%20also%20free%20to%20contact%20me%20on%20my%20talk%20page%20if%20anything%20above%20is%20unclear%20to%20you.">[29]</a>.</dd> <dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Lucky102's comment in this case does appear to be subpar and reflects poorly of them.If they exhibit a consistent pattern of behavior in this fashion, they may face sanctions.</q><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#:~:text=Lucky102%27s%20comment%20in%20this%20case%20does%20appear%20to%20be%20subpar%20and%20reflects%20poorly%20of%20them.%20If%20they%20exhibit%20a%20consistent%20pattern%20of%20behavior%20in%20this%20fashion">[30]</a></dd> <dd>And that's exactly what I meant when wrote that Lucky102's statement was not subject to the Wikipedia rules<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1256914171#Stepan_Shahumian_and_Humanitarianism:~:text=Although%20not%20relevant%20to%20the%20WP%20rules%2C%20I%20would%20like%20like%20to%20support%20your%20thesis%20on%20the%20Wikipedia%27s%20imperative%20to%20uphold%20the%20values%20of%20humanitarianism%5B8%5D">[31]</a>. Can we now agree that my post on his talk page was relevant, not WP:Tendentious due to this reason <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tendentious_editing#%22Banning%22_otherwise_constructive_editors_from_your_talk_page:~:text=.%20Talk%20pages%20are%20the%20fundamental%20medium%20used%20for%20editors%20to%20interact.">[32]</a> and the fact that I actually supported his point, and definetely not source-free? If yes, please modify your comments here <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly#Formal_warning,_GS/AA:~:text=I%20am%20also%20deeply%20concerned%20by%20the%20most%20recent%20comment%2C%20which%20is%20another%20irrelevant%2C%20RGW%20and%20source%2Dfree%20statement%20about%20Armenia%2DAzerbaijan.">[33]</a>.</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="GS/AA,_Polemic_≠_disruptive" data-mw-thread-id="h-GS/AA,_Polemic_≠_disruptive-the_indefinite_topic_ban-20241115202800">GS/AA, Polemic ≠ disruptive</h3> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: GS/AA, Polemic ≠ disruptive" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> </div> <dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The exceptions to GS/AA exist to allow us to accept clearly beneficial edits that no one would object to; you have repeatedly abused them to make polemic arguments on talk pages</q></dd> <dd>How can I know if anyone would object my argument or not? And according to the rules you referred to, Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace to post constructive comments and make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_sanctions/Armenia_and_Azerbaijan#:~:text=.%20Non%2Dextended%2Dconfirmed%20editors%20may%20use%20the%20%22Talk%3A%22%20namespace%20to%20post%20constructive%20comments%20and%20make%20edit%20requests%20related%20to%20articles%20within%20the%20topic%20area%2C%20provided%20they%20are%20not%20disruptive.">[34]</a> Polemic ≠ disruptive. I took part in polemics after receiving warning<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly#Restricted_topics:~:text=Hew%20Folly%2C%20I,July%202024%20(UTC)">[35]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly#Formal_warning,_GS/AA:~:text=Hew%20Folly%2C%20at,three%20general%20buckets%3A">[36]</a> from FireFrangledFeathers, was reported<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers/Archive_7#GS/AA_violation:~:text=Hello%20Firefangledfeathers%2C%20sorry">[37]</a>, warned again <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers/Archive_7#GS/AA_violation:~:text=Hew%20Folly%2C%20you%20now%20have%20a%20pattern%20of%20line%2Dcrossing%20and%20borderline%20conduct%20in%20the%20AA%20topic%20area.%20Consider%20radical%20changes%20to%20your%20approach%20and%20conduct%2C%20or%20a%20topic%20ban%20is%20likely.%20If%20you%27re%20not%20sure%20what%20policy%2Dcompliant%20editing%20looks%20like%2C%20spend%20some%20time%20in%20less%20contentious%20topic%20areas.">[38]</a> yet, supported by FireFrangledFeathers themselves in multiple cases<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers/Archive_7#:~:text=give%20some%20advice%3A-,We%20have%20a%20source%20that%20HistoryofIran%20praised%20and%20that%20Hew%20Folly%20has%20criticized.%20It%27s%20common%20argumentation%20to%20say%20something%20like%20what%20Hew%20Folly%20has%20here%2C%20along%20the%20lines%20of%20%22even%20this%20source%20that%20you%20prefer%20supports%20my%20side%20in%20these%20ways%22.,-I%20don%27t%20see">[39]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers/Archive_7#:~:text=Hew%20Folly%20is%20right%20that%20the%20OR%20policy%20has%20a%20specific%20exemption%20for%20discussion%20on%20talk%20pages%20and%20other%20discussion%20venues.">[40]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Hew_Folly" title="User:Hew Folly">Hew Folly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly" title="User talk:Hew Folly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Hew_Folly-20241115202800-GS/AA,_Polemic_%E2%89%A0_disruptive" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>See, this is the kind of wikilawyering that is unlikely to persuade anyone to unban you. I believe that I have sufficiently explained the grounds for the sanction. Any further appeals should be made to WP:AE. signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241115210100-Hew_Folly-20241115202800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>My thoughts match Rosguill's. It's very unlikely that an appeal based on these grounds will succeed, and it's likely that it would worsen the chances of a future appeal based on better ones. <a href="/wiki/User:Firefangledfeathers" title="User:Firefangledfeathers">Firefangledfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers" title="User talk:Firefangledfeathers">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers" title="Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Firefangledfeathers-20241115214400-Rosguill-20241115210100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Firefangledfeathers" title="User:Firefangledfeathers">Firefangledfeathers</a>@<a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> Thanks for advice! I appreciate that! Can we set the record straight here? <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#:~:text=And%20that%27s%20exactly,%5B40%5D.">[41]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Hew_Folly" title="User:Hew Folly">Hew Folly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hew_Folly" title="User talk:Hew Folly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Hew_Folly-20241118194200-Firefangledfeathers-20241115214400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I'm not sure why you'd want to continue to talk about your ECR violation, except to say that you understand that it was one and will be sure it isn't repeated. <a href="/wiki/User:Firefangledfeathers" title="User:Firefangledfeathers">Firefangledfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers" title="User talk:Firefangledfeathers">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers" title="Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Firefangledfeathers-20241118204400-Hew_Folly-20241118194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(21)"><h2 id="Deletion_requests...." data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_requests....-20241118060000">Deletion requests....</h2> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rosguill&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Deletion requests...." class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id='ooui-php-87' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'></a><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Rosguill-20241118151400-Aafi-20241118150900">9 days ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-21 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-21"> Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a>, could you please delete: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aafi/Archive_1" title="User talk:Aafi/Archive 1">this</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aafi/Archive_2" title="User talk:Aafi/Archive 2">this</a> and <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aafi/Archive_3" title="User talk:Aafi/Archive 3">this</a>. Thanks a lot. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Aafi" title="User:Aafi">Aafi</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aafi" title="User talk:Aafi"> (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Aafi-20241118060000-Deletion_requests...." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 18px;height: 18px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="18" data-height="18" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element">  Done signed, <a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill#c-Rosguill-20241118144200-Aafi-20241118060000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thankyou @<a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill">Rosguill</a>. Kindly cleanup <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aafi/Archives/Archive_1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Aafi/Archives/Archive 1 (page does not exist)">this</a> as well. 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