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It allows adding a reason in the summary.">undo</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/wiki/User:Hiding" class="mw-userlink" title="User:Hiding" data-mw-revid="205151359"><bdi>Hiding</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hiding" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="User talk:Hiding">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hiding" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Special:Contributions/Hiding">contribs</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Autopatrolled" title="Wikipedia:Autopatrolled">Autopatrolled</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">Administrators</a></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>45,137</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses"><span class="autocomment"><a href="#Another_barnstar">→<bdi dir="ltr">Another barnstar</bdi></a>: </span> tipo, feel free to amend for gender</span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03&diff=next&oldid=205151359" title="User talk:Jc37/Archive/03" id="differences-nextlink">Next edit →</a></div></td> </tr><tr><td colspan="4" class="diff-multi" lang="en">(One intermediate revision by the same user not shown)</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 130:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 130:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>: How do you not strain your muscles? It looks like you performed the ''splits'' forwards and then upside down over at [[WP:UBX]] and its subpages. Actually, I don't even want to know. Here's an aerobatic barnstar. [[Image:Barnstar-goldrun7.png|40px]] –[[User talk:Pomte|Pomte]] 15:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>: How do you not strain your muscles? It looks like you performed the ''splits'' forwards and then upside down over at [[WP:UBX]] and its subpages. Actually, I don't even want to know. Here's an aerobatic barnstar. [[Image:Barnstar-goldrun7.png|40px]] –[[User talk:Pomte|Pomte]] 15:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>== Another barnstar ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>{| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>|rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Category Barnstar.png|100px]]</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>|rowspan="2" |</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Categorisation Barnstar'''</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>|-</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For all the hard work JC37 does regarding categories, especially in light of all the grief I give him over it, I award thee this piece of tin I just knocked up. Don't bite on it too hard. [[User:Hiding|Hiding]] <small>[[User talk:Hiding|T]] </small> 16:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>|}</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>I couldn't find a category barnstar so I made one. If you can think of a better one, feel free to modify. [[User:Hiding|Hiding]] <small>[[User talk:Hiding|T]] </small> 16:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>Revision as of 16:51, 12 April 2008</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jc37/Top_quotes&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jc37/Top quotes (page does not exist)">User:Jc37/Top quotes</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jc37/NavBar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jc37/NavBar (page does not exist)">User:Jc37/NavBar</a> <br clear="all"/> </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1044870489">@media all and (max-width:720px){body.skin-minerva .mw-parser-output .tocright{display:none}.mw-parser-output .tocright{width:100%!important}}@media all and (min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tocright{float:right;clear:right;width:auto;margin:0 0 0.5em 1em}.mw-parser-output .tocright-clear-left{clear:left}.mw-parser-output .tocright-clear-both{clear:both}.mw-parser-output .tocright-clear-none{clear:none}}</style><div class="tocright"><meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Hat" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Hat-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Hat-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z"></span>The Hat<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Hat-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Ah,_but_whose_hat?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ah,_but_whose_hat?-The_Hat-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z"><span id="Ah.2C_but_whose_hat.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ah,_but_whose_hat?-The_Hat-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z"></span>Ah, but whose hat?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ah,_but_whose_hat?-The_Hat-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doczilla-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z-Ah,_but_whose_hat?"></span>Re: <i>(And with a quiet whoosh the hat passes the threshhold of the ring's circumference : ))</i> </p><p>The part about the hat made me think of <a href="/w/index.php?title=List_of_James_Bond_henchmen_in_Goldfinger&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="List of James Bond henchmen in Goldfinger (page does not exist)">Oddjob</a> hurling his hat in <i><a href="/wiki/Goldfinger_(film)" title="Goldfinger (film)">Goldfinger</a></i> and beheading a statue with it. <a href="/wiki/User:Doczilla" title="User:Doczilla">Doczilla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doczilla" title="User talk:Doczilla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Doczilla-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z-Ah,_but_whose_hat?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doczilla-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z-Ah,_but_whose_hat?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doczilla-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z-Ah,_but_whose_hat?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-02-08T12:06:00.000Z-Doczilla-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z"></span>I wonder if that would make it a <a href="/wiki/C_Ring" class="mw-redirect" title="C Ring">C Ring</a> (the odds being <a href="/wiki/Astronomical" class="mw-redirect" title="Astronomical">astronomical</a>, of course), rather than just a <a href="/wiki/Hole_in_one" title="Hole in one">hole in one</a>? Though personally I suppose one could just make an <a href="/wiki/Existential" class="mw-redirect" title="Existential">existential</a> grab for the <a href="/wiki/Brass_ring" title="Brass ring">brass ring</a> : ) - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-02-08T12:06:00.000Z-Doczilla-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-02-08T12:06:00.000Z-Doczilla-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-02-08T12:06:00.000Z-Doczilla-2008-02-08T11:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Edit_Summary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_Summary-The_Hat-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_Summary-The_Hat-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z"></span>Edit Summary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_Summary-The_Hat-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship&curid=2609425&diff=189938039&oldid=189837175"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pedro-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z-Edit_Summary"></span>That</a> was classy! <b>:)</b> <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Pedro" title="User:Pedro"><b>Pedro</b></a> : <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pedro" title="User talk:Pedro"><font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat </font></a> </span></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Pedro-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z-Edit_Summary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pedro-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z-Edit_Summary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pedro-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z-Edit_Summary"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-02-08T12:06:00.000Z-Pedro-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z"></span>I suppose I'm just in a poetic mood : ) - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-02-08T12:06:00.000Z-Pedro-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-02-08T12:06:00.000Z-Pedro-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-02-08T12:06:00.000Z-Pedro-2008-02-08T11:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Doczilla's_RfA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Doczilla's_RfA-2008-02-16T05:39:00.000Z"><span id="Doczilla.27s_RfA"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Doczilla's_RfA-2008-02-16T05:39:00.000Z"></span>Doczilla's RfA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Doczilla's_RfA-2008-02-16T05:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="NavFrame" style="border-style: none; padding: 0px;"> <div class="NavFrame" style="border-style: none; text-align: left; border: #dadada solid 2px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; background: #006400; padding: 5px;"> <div class="NavHead" style="-moz-border-radius-topright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px; background: none; text-align: center; padding: 2px; font-size: 160%;"><font face="trebuchet ms" color="#006400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doczilla-2008-02-16T05:39:00.000Z-Doczilla's_RfA"></span>.:<span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_cache.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Nuvola_apps_cache.png/30px-Nuvola_apps_cache.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Nuvola_apps_cache.png/45px-Nuvola_apps_cache.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Nuvola_apps_cache.png/60px-Nuvola_apps_cache.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <i><a href="/wiki/Spectres_(album)#Side_one" title="Spectres (album)">Oh, no! There goes To-ky-o! Admin Doczilla!</a></i> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_cache.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Nuvola_apps_cache.png/30px-Nuvola_apps_cache.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Nuvola_apps_cache.png/45px-Nuvola_apps_cache.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Nuvola_apps_cache.png/60px-Nuvola_apps_cache.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span>:.</font></div> <div class="NavContent" style="background: none; display: none;"> <center><p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p></center></div></div></div><table> </table><table class="wikitable"> <tbody><tr> <td align="left"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=Godzilla(01)reverse.jpg" class="new" title="File:Godzilla(01)reverse.jpg"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media" data-width="275">File:Godzilla(01)reverse.jpg</span></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td> <td width="340"><font size="5"><b>Thanks for !voting!</b></font><br/><br/> Thank you for !voting in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Doczilla" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Doczilla">my RfA</a> which resulted in the collapse of civilization with <b>92</b> (94?) <b>support</b>, <b>1 oppose</b>, and <b>1 neutral</b>.<br/> Blame <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Hiding" title="User:Hiding">Hiding</a> for nominating me, everyone who had questions or comments, everyone who !voted, everyone who tallied the numbers correctly, and <a href="/wiki/User:WJBscribe" title="User:WJBscribe">WJBScribe</a> who closed<br/> without shouting, "No mop for you!"<p> Seriously, your response has overwhelmed me.<br/> I am deeply grateful. </p></td> <td><figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Importancia-0.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Importancia-0.svg/100px-Importancia-0.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Importancia-0.svg/150px-Importancia-0.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Importancia-0.svg/200px-Importancia-0.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="110" data-file-height="22"/></a><figcaption> <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <hr/> <b>Thank you for casting the ?th vote (the nom, a.k.a. co-nom with strong support even though you initiated the nomination) in my RfA. While I never was sure I wanted adminship, I was always gratified that someone wanted me for it.</b></figcaption></figure> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <div class="NavHead" style="-moz-border-radius-topright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px; background: #FFFFFF; text-align: left; padding: 2px; font-size: 100%;"><font color="#000000"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png/30px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png/45px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png/60px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <i>"The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot."</i> - Michael Althsuler </font></div> <p><br/> <span style="position:-40px;left:-180px;z-index:100"></span> </p> <div style="position:absolute; z-index:100; right:10px; :0px;" class="metadata" id="userGrmWnr"> <table style="background-color:#CFB53B;border: solid 2px #AA0000"> <tbody><tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User:Doczilla" title="User:Doczilla"><span style="color:green;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">Doczilla</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doczilla" title="User talk:Doczilla">RAWR!</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Doczilla-2008-02-16T05:39:00.000Z-Doczilla's_RfA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doczilla-2008-02-16T05:39:00.000Z-Doczilla's_RfA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doczilla-2008-02-16T05:39:00.000Z-Doczilla's_RfA"></span> </td> <td><figure class="noresize" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/User:Doczilla" title="Home Page"><img alt="Home Page" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Nuvola_filesystems_folder_home.png/30px-Nuvola_filesystems_folder_home.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Nuvola_filesystems_folder_home.png/45px-Nuvola_filesystems_folder_home.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Nuvola_filesystems_folder_home.png/60px-Nuvola_filesystems_folder_home.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption>Home Page</figcaption></figure> </td> <td><figure class="noresize" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doczilla" title="Talk Page"><img alt="Talk Page" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Nuvola_apps_chat.png/30px-Nuvola_apps_chat.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Nuvola_apps_chat.png/45px-Nuvola_apps_chat.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Nuvola_apps_chat.png/60px-Nuvola_apps_chat.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption>Talk Page</figcaption></figure> </td> <td><figure class="noresize" typeof="mw:File"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ADoczilla&diff=190347038&oldid=190345255" class="plainlinks" title="Joke Alert"><img alt="Joke Alert" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Laff_alert.svg/30px-Laff_alert.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Laff_alert.svg/45px-Laff_alert.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Laff_alert.svg/60px-Laff_alert.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a><figcaption>Joke Alert</figcaption></figure> </td> <td><figure class="noresize" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/User:Doczilla/RfAThanks" title="Presents"><img alt="Presents" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Nuvola_apps_3_cookie.png/30px-Nuvola_apps_3_cookie.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Nuvola_apps_3_cookie.png/45px-Nuvola_apps_3_cookie.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Nuvola_apps_3_cookie.png/60px-Nuvola_apps_3_cookie.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption>Presents</figcaption></figure> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rouge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rouge-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rouge-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z"></span>Rouge<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rouge-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion/Archive/February_2008#Category:Rouge_admins" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:User categories for discussion/Archive/February 2008"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z-Rouge"></span>Rouge</a></i></dd></dl> <p>That was a tough close... Well done. Someone had to and you are a <a href="/wiki/Mensch" title="Mensch">mensch</a> for deciding to do it. I expect someone will DRV you, so if someone does and I don't notice, would you please give me a nudge. ++<a href="/wiki/User:Lar" title="User:Lar">Lar</a>: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lar" title="User talk:Lar">t</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lar" title="Special:Contributions/Lar">c</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z-Rouge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z-Rouge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z-Rouge"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doczilla-2008-02-18T17:28:00.000Z-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z"></span>Someone actually suggested that I might want to close that one since I hadn't been involved in the discussion, and I think that person was serious. Oh, yeah, <i>that</i> would have been a fun way to close my first XfD. <a href="/wiki/User:Doczilla" title="User:Doczilla"><span style="color:green;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">Doczilla</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doczilla" title="User talk:Doczilla">RAWR!</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Doczilla-2008-02-18T17:28:00.000Z-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doczilla-2008-02-18T17:28:00.000Z-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doczilla-2008-02-18T17:28:00.000Z-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-22T18:08:00.000Z-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z"></span>I agree, that was well thought out. Nice job. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kbdank71" title="User:Kbdank71">Kbdank71</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Kbdank71-2008-02-22T18:08:00.000Z-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-22T18:08:00.000Z-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-22T18:08:00.000Z-Lar-2008-02-18T03:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AGK-2008-02-23T20:06:00.000Z-Rouge"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png/100px-Original_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a><figcaption>For a thorough, detailed closure of a tricky <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:XFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:XFD">deletion discussion</a>, and managing to pull the consensus-needle from the haystack, I award Jc37 the original barnstar. Top work! <a href="/wiki/User:AGK" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AGK"><b>AGK</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User:AGK/Contact" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AGK/Contact">contact</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-AGK-2008-02-23T20:06:00.000Z-Rouge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AGK-2008-02-23T20:06:00.000Z-Rouge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AGK-2008-02-23T20:06:00.000Z-Rouge"></span></figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z-AGK-2008-02-23T20:06:00.000Z"></span>What is the general view on admins wheelwarring against category deletions? This is a particularly touchy issue for many I know but the fact that a number of admins have reinserted the category on their pages to effectively recreate it seems to be an issue. DRV might be necessary to get the two discussions happening together and get a consistent view on the situation? <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Rouge_admin_(3rd_nomination)" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Rouge admin (3rd nomination)">(other discussion)</a> (And yes, I realise that the concept is intended to be humour but it not taken that way by some or many :) ) <a href="/wiki/User:Ansell/Esperanza" title="User:Ansell/Esperanza"><span style="color:#0000FF;">Ans<span style="color:#009000;">e</span>ll</span></a> 21:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC) <dl><dd>See <a href="/wiki/User:VegaDark" title="User:VegaDark">VegaDark</a>'s comment in the thread below. Though honestly, it "not being worth the drama" doesn't sound like a "good enough" answer for me. I think that this is something that needs to be dealt with in one way or other. - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z-AGK-2008-02-23T20:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z-AGK-2008-02-23T20:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z-AGK-2008-02-23T20:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VegaDark-2008-03-04T06:47:00.000Z-Rouge"></span>Just an FYI, but the category has been restored. I have inquired on the restoring admin's talk page as to why. I would highly suggest you <i>not</i> re-delete the category (although extremely tempting), as to not wheel-war. An AN/I thread can be started up if I don't get a satisfactory response (i.e., any result other than redeletion). <a href="/wiki/User:VegaDark" title="User:VegaDark">VegaDark</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VegaDark" title="User talk:VegaDark">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-VegaDark-2008-03-04T06:47:00.000Z-Rouge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VegaDark-2008-03-04T06:47:00.000Z-Rouge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VegaDark-2008-03-04T06:47:00.000Z-Rouge"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Just_what_do_you_think_you're_doing?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Just_what_do_you_think_you're_doing?-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z"><span id="Just_what_do_you_think_you.27re_doing.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Just_what_do_you_think_you're_doing?-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z"></span>Just what do you think you're doing?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Just_what_do_you_think_you're_doing?-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z-Just_what_do_you_think_you're_doing?"></span>Just what do you think you're doing?<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Category:Rouge_admins">[1]</a> </p><p>As long as people refuse to depopulate the category, a <a href="/wiki/De_facto" title="De facto">de facto</a> category exists. I recreated nothing! All I did was change the font color. Time to get real.--<a href="/wiki/User:The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back" title="User:The Fat Man Who Never Came Back">The Fat Man Who Never Came Back</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back" title="User talk:The Fat Man Who Never Came Back">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z-Just_what_do_you_think_you're_doing?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z-Just_what_do_you_think_you're_doing?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z-Just_what_do_you_think_you're_doing?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VegaDark-2008-02-28T05:59:00.000Z-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z"></span>Perhaps you should propose some policy disallowing editors to be in UCFD'd categories. Until then, you can't do much about it other than request they remove it (or remove it yourself, which is likely to cause drama). Currently there is no policy regarding either the removing or the re-adding of deleted user categories to user pages. Personally I'd advocate a bot to patrol every deleted category, and remove the category from all such userpages periodically. Nothing will stop the editors from simply re-adding the category again each time, but at least they will have to work for it. <a href="/wiki/User:VegaDark" title="User:VegaDark">VegaDark</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VegaDark" title="User talk:VegaDark">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-VegaDark-2008-02-28T05:59:00.000Z-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VegaDark-2008-02-28T05:59:00.000Z-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VegaDark-2008-02-28T05:59:00.000Z-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-28T05:59:00.000Z"></span>There are quite a few other options/proposals as well. But I wonder: Should we allow the "possibility of drama" to prevent us from doing "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOP">what is right</a>"? - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-28T05:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-28T05:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-28T05:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VegaDark-2008-02-29T07:14:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z"></span>FYI, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Bot_to_remove_deleted_user_categories_from_user_pages" title="Wikipedia:Bot requests">Wikipedia:Bot requests#Bot to remove deleted user categories from user pages</a>. While particularly motivated users will still be able to circumvent the process by adding {{nobots}} to their page, this bot would cut a significant amount of users out of such pages, and would help a lot for initial category emptying. <a href="/wiki/User:VegaDark" title="User:VegaDark">VegaDark</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VegaDark" title="User talk:VegaDark">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-VegaDark-2008-02-29T07:14:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VegaDark-2008-02-29T07:14:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VegaDark-2008-02-29T07:14:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T02:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T14:59:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-29T07:14:00.000Z"></span>Just wondering here, what would it take to get the software changed to not show categories that don't exist? Obviously a check of all wikilinks including categories has to be made to determine if the target exists when displaying any page in order to color the link blue or red, would it be so hard to not show the red ones? Then all you'd need to deal with is recreation which is <s>drama</s> speediable. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kbdank71" title="User:Kbdank71">Kbdank71</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T14:59:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-29T07:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T14:59:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-29T07:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T14:59:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-29T07:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T18:26:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T14:59:00.000Z"></span>I had a similar idea kbd. Especially considering a recent similar, though decidedly different, discussion concerning "hidden categories". Personally, when thinking even about categories which are redlinked in mainspace, we simply have had too much disruption along those lines. I think it might be a good idea to suggest that <i><b>all</b></i> redlinked categories (when not preceeded by a colon) should not show up on a page, nor group said page in a category. One could <i>still</i> create a category using a coloned redlink, and once the page is created <i>then</i> allow the category to "appear" and "group" pages. This also adds a touch of technical knowledge requirement that maybe, just possibly, might slow down well meaning but uninformed category creators. This would be, I presume, a simple addition to the software, but make a <i>world</i> of difference to those who maintain category-space. - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-02-29T18:26:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T14:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T18:26:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T14:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T18:26:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T14:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VegaDark-2008-02-29T21:32:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T18:26:00.000Z"></span>I was thinking the same, and I thought of a possible solution to making the creation of such categories easier. When you go in to the edit window, or perhaps as a warning after you save or preview your edit, there can be some big red notice saying how the category you added doesn't currently exist, and will not show up on the page until it is created, with a link to create the category. I don't know if <a href="/wiki/Special:WantedCategories" title="Special:WantedCategories">Special:Wantedcategories</a> could still function if it were done like this, however, and if it did, we would still have the problem of inappropriate categories showing up there that shouldn't actually be created. Perhaps more users would simply get rid of the category from their userpage if it no longer showed up at the bottom of their page, however. <a href="/wiki/User:VegaDark" title="User:VegaDark">VegaDark</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VegaDark" title="User talk:VegaDark">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-VegaDark-2008-02-29T21:32:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T18:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VegaDark-2008-02-29T21:32:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T18:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VegaDark-2008-02-29T21:32:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T18:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:39:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-29T21:32:00.000Z"></span>Honestly, I think "wantedcategories" should become a thing of the past. Article talk pages (and other more general discussion pages) exist for just such purposes. I don't think requiring someone to understand adding a colon, and creating a page, is establishing too high a learning curve. Categories should be created with thought, not knee-jerk impulse.</dd> <dd>As far as your suggested notice, it might be too server intensive to have it check for categories in an edit every time. I dunno. I'd rather it just be a link to WP:CAT, which would have a more clear explanation <i>in context</i> of what categories <i>are</i>. - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:39:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-29T21:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:39:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-29T21:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:39:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-02-29T21:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:44:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:39:00.000Z"></span>Actually, it should be easy. Like I said above, it already checks for a category on every edit so it knows what color to make it. You can probably stop the process as well, a la if you forget to put in an edit summary ("Category does not exist, click Save Page again to save" or some such). I agree about the wantedcategories, though. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kbdank71" title="User:Kbdank71">Kbdank71</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:44:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:44:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:44:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:53:00.000Z-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z"></span>(de-dent) - I just had an idea. (I was thinking about templates which add categories when transcluding.)</dd> <dd>a.) When we hit "see preview", if you scroll down to the "bottom" it actually shows the categories.</dd> <dd>b.) When we edit a page, it shows at the "bottom" what templates are transcluded to the page.</dd> <dd>What if redlinked categories only show <i><b>then</b></i>? (a-after "show preview", or b- as a "list" below the template list, or "c" - both)</dd> <dd>That allows for page creation, but won't add them/group in them unless the page is created. - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:53:00.000Z-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:53:00.000Z-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:53:00.000Z-The_Fat_Man_Who_Never_Came_Back-2008-02-27T04:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:56:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:53:00.000Z"></span>Works for me. Now we just need a boatload of discussion, consensus, and development. My newborn will probably be in college by the time it's implemented... :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kbdank71" title="User:Kbdank71">Kbdank71</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:56:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:56:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:56:00.000Z-Jc37-2008-02-29T21:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T22:01:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:56:00.000Z"></span>Rofl, you just want another addition to the top of this page : p</dd> <dd>So how do you think it would be best to get this ball rolling? - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-02-29T22:01:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 29 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T22:01:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-02-29T22:01:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-02-29T21:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_couple_things" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_couple_things-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_couple_things-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z"></span>A couple things<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_couple_things-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VegaDark-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z-A_couple_things"></span>First, nobody bothered to notify you that your closure of Cat:Rouge Admins is on DRV, so I thought I would tell you. There is also an AN/I thread about it. Second, I was wondering if making pages like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Rouge_admin/Former_category_talk_page" title="Wikipedia talk:Rouge admin/Former category talk page">this</a> was standard practice. I have never seen anything like it, and personally I would have just deleted (although I don't really see the harm in it). Did you just decide that the page should be preserved and do that, or is there any policy/guideline saying to do that? <a href="/wiki/User:VegaDark" title="User:VegaDark">VegaDark</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VegaDark" title="User talk:VegaDark">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-VegaDark-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z-A_couple_things" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VegaDark-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z-A_couple_things"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VegaDark-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z-A_couple_things"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-03-06T00:20:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for the notice. I didn't see it. Though in hindsight I probably should have waited to comment. I was surprised when I re-read what I wrote. I think I was still asleep when I wrote it. I decided not to remove the whole thing, but instead did what we've done to comments at CFD/UCFD - I removed the more problematic text. - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-03-06T00:20:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-03-06T00:20:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-03-06T00:20:00.000Z-VegaDark-2008-03-05T04:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Horologium-2008-03-05T14:53:00.000Z-A_couple_things"></span>Actually, I came here to ask you the same thing, since I nominated it for speedy G8 (which was declined). When I asked why it was declined, the admin noted that it had been moved. A check of the edit history revealed that it was <i>you</i> who moved it, not one of the members of the group flipping off the community again. What is your reasoning behind the move? <b><a href="/wiki/User:Horologium" title="User:Horologium"><font color="DarkSlateGray">Horologium</font></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Horologium" title="User talk:Horologium">(talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Horologium-2008-03-05T14:53:00.000Z-A_couple_things" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Horologium-2008-03-05T14:53:00.000Z-A_couple_things"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Horologium-2008-03-05T14:53:00.000Z-A_couple_things"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2008-03-06T00:20:00.000Z-Horologium-2008-03-05T14:53:00.000Z"></span>Moving the category talk page to Wikipedia-space as an archive? I did that as a courtesy, since the Wikipedia-space page still existed. To be honest, I think it's rather rare to find a Wikipedian category with a talk page discussion, so it's not something that happens very often. (I helped with something similar for "Admins open to recall".) I hope that clarifies. - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Jc37-2008-03-06T00:20:00.000Z-Horologium-2008-03-05T14:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2008-03-06T00:20:00.000Z-Horologium-2008-03-05T14:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2008-03-06T00:20:00.000Z-Horologium-2008-03-05T14:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z"><span id="How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z"></span>How do you not pull your hair out?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?"></span>Trying to help clean up over at UCFD, and I have to say, the sheer number of users who appear to be using wikipedia for nothing other than userboxes and user categories (aka WikiMySpace) is staggering. I'm beginning to think the argument "this user category fosters collaboration" is utter bullshit. When some of the members have no edits outside of their own user page, there is no collaborating going on. </p><p>And trying to figure out how the stupid category gets populated, when it seems that every user has their own version of the userbox in their userspace, and they're all wrapped in "includeonly" so I have to edit every damn user page to try and find which template feeds the category. It's enough to make me say screw this crap, I'll stick to CFD, where things are relatively normal. </p><p>How do you do it? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kbdank71" title="User:Kbdank71">Kbdank71</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?"></span> </p> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png/100px-Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="119" data-file-height="114"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Working Man's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">for not going completely nuts at UCFD. <a href="/wiki/User:Kbdank71" title="User:Kbdank71">Kbdank71</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z-How_do_you_not_pull_your_hair_out?-1"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doczilla-2008-04-09T05:25:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Ah, but maybe sticking with the UCFD mess at all is indicative of being nuts in the first place. <a href="/wiki/User:Doczilla" title="User:Doczilla"><span style="color:green;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">Doczilla</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doczilla" title="User talk:Doczilla"><small>STOMP!</small></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Doczilla-2008-04-09T05:25:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doczilla-2008-04-09T05:25:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doczilla-2008-04-09T05:25:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pomte-2008-04-12T15:57:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z"></span>How do you not strain your muscles? It looks like you performed the <i>splits</i> forwards and then upside down over at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UBX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UBX">WP:UBX</a> and its subpages. Actually, I don't even want to know. Here's an aerobatic barnstar. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar-goldrun7.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Barnstar-goldrun7.png/40px-Barnstar-goldrun7.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="39" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Barnstar-goldrun7.png/60px-Barnstar-goldrun7.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Barnstar-goldrun7.png/80px-Barnstar-goldrun7.png 2x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> –<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pomte" title="User talk:Pomte">Pomte</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Pomte-2008-04-12T15:57:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pomte-2008-04-12T15:57:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pomte-2008-04-12T15:57:00.000Z-Kbdank71-2008-04-03T14:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Another_barnstar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_barnstar-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Another_barnstar-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z"></span>Another barnstar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Another_barnstar-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hiding-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z-Another_barnstar"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Category_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Category_Barnstar.png/100px-Category_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Category_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Categorisation Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">For all the hard work JC37 does regarding categories, especially in light of all the grief I give him over it, I award thee this piece of tin I just knocked up. Don't bite on it too hard. <a href="/wiki/User:Hiding" title="User:Hiding">Hiding</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hiding" title="User talk:Hiding">T</a> </small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Hiding-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z-Another_barnstar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hiding-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z-Another_barnstar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hiding-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z-Another_barnstar"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hiding-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z-Another_barnstar-1"></span> I couldn't find a category barnstar so I made one. If you can think of a better one, feel free to modify. <a href="/wiki/User:Hiding" title="User:Hiding">Hiding</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hiding" title="User talk:Hiding">T</a> </small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03#c-Hiding-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z-Another_barnstar-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hiding-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z-Another_barnstar-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hiding-2008-04-12T16:51:00.000Z-Another_barnstar-1"></span> </p></div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03&oldid=205151359">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jc37/Archive/03&oldid=205151359</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_missing_files" title="Category:Pages with missing files">Pages with missing files</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 12 April 2008, at 16:51<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright"><span class="nowraplinks">This version of the page has been <a href="/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">revised</a>. 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