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Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_12#Days" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 12">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 12 § Days</a></b> until a consensus is reached. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DeCausa#c-Jlwoodwa-20241012203300-"Days"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241012203300-"Days"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241012203300","author":"Jlwoodwa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jlwoodwa-20241012203300-\"Days\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jlwoodwa-20241012203300-"Days"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-struck-20241027201800","replies":["c-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800-struck"],"text":"struck","linkableTitle":"struck"}--><h2 id="struck" data-mw-thread-id="h-struck-20241027201800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-struck-20241027201800"></span>struck<span data-mw-comment-end="h-struck-20241027201800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DeCausa&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: struck"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-struck-20241027201800","replies":["c-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800-struck"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DeCausa-20241027203600-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800","timestamp":"20241027203600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-struck-20241027201800","replies":["c-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800-struck"],"text":"struck","linkableTitle":"struck"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800-struck"></span>One of his problems is <i>not using the tools</i> to benefit the project. He has <i>not</i> heeded the advice I gave on his talk page. Whether at the case request or at admin recall, he needs to heed my advice. And I don't care which. I cannot oppose the Arbs taking up the matter. <a href="/wiki/User:Deepfriedokra" title="User:Deepfriedokra">-- Deepfriedokra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deepfriedokra" title="User talk:Deepfriedokra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DeCausa#c-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800-struck" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800-struck"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027201800","author":"Deepfriedokra","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800-struck","replies":["c-DeCausa-20241027202600-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800","c-DeCausa-20241027203600-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800"],"displayName":"-- Deepfriedokra"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800-struck"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DeCausa-20241027202600-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800"></span>I may be being obtuse here but I'm looking at this very simplistically. You have someone who's misusing the tools pretty much <i>every single time they use them</i>. I don't really understand why any suggestion that using them more often could be a good idea. <a href="/wiki/User:DeCausa" title="User:DeCausa">DeCausa</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DeCausa#c-DeCausa-20241027202600-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DeCausa-20241027202600-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027202600","author":"DeCausa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DeCausa-20241027202600-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DeCausa-20241027202600-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DeCausa-20241027203600-Deepfriedokra-20241027201800"></span>Ok. Just saw what you put on the arbcom page viz. "He needs to increase his tool use in a manner beneficial to Wikipedia." 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