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Extra!</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-size: 95%; background-color:#ffffff;"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/RationalWiki:What_is_going_on_in_the_world%3F" title="RationalWiki:What is going on in the world?">WIGO World</a></li></ul> <div class="vte plainlinks" style="font-size:smaller; text-align:center;"><a href="/wiki/Template:Media" title="Template:Media">v</a> - <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Media" title="Template talk:Media">t</a> - <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Media&action=edit">e</a></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table style="margin: auto; border-collapse:collapse; border-style:none; background-color:transparent;" class="cquote"> <tbody><tr> <td><div style="padding:4px 50px;position:relative;"><span style="position:absolute;left:10px;top:-6px;z-index:1;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">“</span><span style="position:absolute;right:10px;bottom:-20px;z-index:1;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">”</span>MSNBC, we’re told all the time, is the liberal Fox News. That’s <a href="/wiki/False_equivalence" class="mw-redirect" title="False equivalence">reductive</a> and stupid...for two very important reasons: It usually demonstrates a greater respect for the <a href="/wiki/Truth" title="Truth">truth</a> than Fox News, and it’s <i>not as good as Fox News.</i></div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding:4px 10px 8px;font-size:smaller;line-height:1.6em;text-align:right;"><cite style="font-style:normal;position:relative;z-index:2">—Alex Pareene<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1">[1]</a></sup></cite> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table style="margin: auto; border-collapse:collapse; border-style:none; background-color:transparent;" class="cquote"> <tbody><tr> <td><div style="padding:4px 50px;position:relative;"><span style="position:absolute;left:10px;top:-6px;z-index:1;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">“</span><span style="position:absolute;right:10px;bottom:-20px;z-index:1;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">”</span>Hillary Clinton was more experienced, prepared, and qualified, and yet she was the one who [Matt] Lauer chose to admonish, cut off, and grill. Meanwhile, Trump skated in and out of that thing like the captain of a high school football team cheating on a Home Ec exam. Oh, did I mention that Trump used to have a show on Lauer's network? How interesting.</div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding:4px 10px 8px;font-size:smaller;line-height:1.6em;text-align:right;"><cite style="font-style:normal;position:relative;z-index:2">—Drew Magary<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2">[2]</a></sup></cite> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><b>MSNBC</b> is a website and basic cable <a href="/wiki/News" title="News">news</a> network sitting as the more <a href="/wiki/Political" class="mw-redirect" title="Political">political</a> side of NBC News. It is sometimes seen as the <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Party" title="Democratic Party">Democratic</a> response to <a href="/wiki/Fox_News" title="Fox News">Fox News</a>, though not an apt analogy.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3">[note 1]</a></sup> It gets far fewer viewers than Fox on a consistent basis.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4">[3]</a></sup> </p><p>The site sometimes sometimes spouts incorrect information, such as at one point erroneously labeling racist <a href="/wiki/Segregation" title="Segregation">segregationist</a> senators <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eastland" class="extiw" title="wp:James Eastland" rel="nofollow"><span style="color:#477979 !important;" title="Wikipedia: James Eastland">James Eastland</span></a><sup><img alt="" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/18px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/24px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128" /></sup> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Talmadge" class="extiw" title="wp:Herman Talmadge" rel="nofollow"><span style="color:#477979 !important;" title="Wikipedia: Herman Talmadge">Herman Talmadge</span></a><sup><img alt="" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/18px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/24px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128" /></sup> as "Republicans" when they were <a href="/wiki/Democrats" class="mw-redirect" title="Democrats">Democrats</a>, which they later corrected.<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5">[4]</a></sup> </p> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Its_beginnings"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Its beginnings</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#The_liberal_response"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">The liberal response</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Reception"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Reception</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#News_personalities"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">News personalities</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-5"><a href="#Current"><span class="tocnumber">4.1</span> <span class="toctext">Current</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-6"><a href="#Former"><span class="tocnumber">4.2</span> <span class="toctext">Former</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Any_alternatives.3F"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Any alternatives?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Notes"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Notes</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#References"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">References</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Its_beginnings">Its beginnings</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=MSNBC&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Its beginnings">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>MSNBC was born out of a <a href="/wiki/Microsoft" title="Microsoft">Microsoft</a> (MS)/NBC partnership in 1996, and it was born out of the corpse of little-watched but cult-followed America's Talking (founded 2 years earlier). Interestingly, this channel was headed by <a href="/wiki/Roger_Ailes" title="Roger Ailes">Roger Ailes</a> just before he went on to Fox News (so he kinda created both American cable news monsters). </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="The_liberal_response">The liberal response</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=MSNBC&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: The liberal response">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>In one <i>Daily Show</i> segment, <a href="/wiki/Jon_Stewart" class="mw-redirect" title="Jon Stewart">Jon Stewart</a> demonstrated how many MSNBC anchors seem to <a href="/wiki/Horseshoe_theory" title="Horseshoe theory">parallel</a> those over at Fox Noise (<a href="/wiki/Chris_Matthews" title="Chris Matthews">Chris Matthews</a> being their <a href="/wiki/Bill_O%27Reilly" title="Bill O'Reilly">Bill O'Reilly</a> and <a href="/wiki/Lawrence_O%27Donnell" title="Lawrence O'Donnell">Lawrence O'Donnell</a> being <a href="/wiki/Sean_Hannity" title="Sean Hannity">Sean Hannity</a>, minus the connection to a <a href="/wiki/Hal_Turner" title="Hal Turner">neo-Nazi</a><sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6">[5]</a></sup>). But the biggest difference between MSNBC and Fox News is that, while Fox has the nerve to call themselves "<a href="/wiki/Fair_and_Balanced" title="Fair and Balanced">Fair and Balanced</a>," MSNBC makes no attempt to hide the fact that it's run by liberals.<sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-7">[note 2]</a></sup> As if their current slogan "Lean Forward" isn't enough. It has to be said though that positions that are considered "out there" and "far left" in the US are par for the course and centrist in most of continental Europe. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Reception">Reception</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=MSNBC&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Reception">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>MSNBC lagged behind <a href="/wiki/CNN" title="CNN">CNN</a> and Fox in ratings for several years, but has received a major boost in ratings with the hiring of a new president Phil Griffin (incidentally from CNN), <a href="/wiki/Barack_Obama" title="Barack Obama">Barack Obama</a>'s election in <a href="/wiki/2008_U.S._Presidential_Election" class="mw-redirect" title="2008 U.S. Presidential Election">2008</a>, and the adoption of <i>The <a href="/wiki/Rachel_Maddow" title="Rachel Maddow">Rachel Maddow</a> Show</i>. In 2017 with the Trump presidency, MSNBC began to soar in ratings again, going from #8 in cable to #2 (no hints as to who #1 is).<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-8">[6]</a></sup> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="News_personalities">News personalities</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=MSNBC&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: News personalities">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>The positions of the network are often described as <a href="/wiki/Liberal" class="mw-redirect" title="Liberal">liberal</a>, though it would be more accurate to describe it as representative of the <a href="/wiki/Chaos" title="Chaos">chaotic</a> nature of the Democratic Party, with the hosts having a wider range of views than is seen on the more <a href="/wiki/Wingnut" title="Wingnut">ideologically pure</a> Fox News. </p> <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Current">Current</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=MSNBC&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Current">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h3> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Rachel_Maddow" title="Rachel Maddow">Rachel Maddow</a> - Self-identifies as an "<a href="/wiki/Rockefeller_Republican" title="Rockefeller Republican">Eisenhower Republican</a>," meaning she's socially liberal, fiscally moderately conservative, and a bit of a hawk on foreign policy, albeit with strong criticisms of the <a href="/wiki/Military-industrial_complex" title="Military-industrial complex">military-industrial complex</a>. Basically, a New Democrat <a href="/wiki/Centrist" class="mw-redirect" title="Centrist">centrist</a>, though unlike most centrists she doesn't care much for <a href="/wiki/Barack_Obama" title="Barack Obama">Barack Obama</a>. Has confessed on the air that she does, in fact <a href="/wiki/Bernie_Sanders" title="Bernie Sanders">feel the Bern</a>. Whether this was meant seriously remains to be seen, but she does have tendency to criticize the "beltway press" for failing to report on Sanders and the huge crowds he draws. Currently the top rated show on MSNBC and crushing the 9PM (ET) timeslot.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Joe_Scarborough" title="Joe Scarborough">Joe Scarborough</a> - Former Republican congressman who represents the right-leaning independents and Republicans who are willing to vote Democratic if the occasion calls for it. Talked up Trump during his show until turning away from him in disgust when he realized he could not control the spirits he had called.</li> <li>Rev. <a href="/wiki/Al_Sharpton" title="Al Sharpton">Al Sharpton</a> - <a href="/wiki/Social_justice" title="Social justice">Social justice</a> advocate representing the Christian Left.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Lawrence_O%27Donnell" title="Lawrence O'Donnell">Lawrence O'Donnell</a> - Representative of the so-called 'left-wing faction' of the Democratic Party (if it has one), self-described as "<a href="/wiki/Social_democrat" class="mw-redirect" title="Social democrat">practical European socialist</a>."</li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Joy_Reid&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Joy Reid (page does not exist)">Joy Reid</a> - Host of The Reid Out, inherited Chris Matthew's timeslot, primarily focuses on race issues</li> <li>Chris Hayes - Editor-at-large of <i><a href="/wiki/The_Nation" class="mw-redirect" title="The Nation">The Nation</a></i>. Received a dumb backlash when he admitted that it's sometimes incompatible to equate "<a href="/wiki/Jingoism" title="Jingoism">heroism</a>" with the military.</li> <li>Steve Kornacki - Represents those who vote for the Democratic Party mainly because of agreement on <a href="/wiki/LGBT" class="mw-redirect" title="LGBT">social issues</a>. Absolute data nerd.</li></ul> <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Former">Former</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=MSNBC&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Former">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h3> <ul><li>Dan Abrams - Hosted <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Abrams_Report" class="extiw" title="wp:The Abrams Report" rel="nofollow"><span style="color:#477979 !important;" title="Wikipedia: The Abrams Report">The Abrams Report</span></a><sup><img alt="" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/18px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/24px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128" /></sup></i> which concentrated on crime and tabloid issues.</li> <li>Alec Baldwin - At least MSNBC knows when to turf universally-recognized <a href="/wiki/Asshole" class="mw-redirect" title="Asshole">assholes</a>.</li> <li>Martin Bashir - And again.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pat_Buchanan" title="Pat Buchanan">Pat Buchanan</a> - Was the <a href="/wiki/Paleoconservative" class="mw-redirect" title="Paleoconservative">paleoconservative</a> co-host of <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchanan_%26_Press" class="extiw" title="wp:Buchanan & Press" rel="nofollow"><span style="color:#477979 !important;" title="Wikipedia: Buchanan & Press">Buchanan & Press</span></a><sup><img alt="" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/18px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/24px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128" /></sup></i>. He was cut for opposing the <a href="/wiki/Iraq_War" title="Iraq War">Iraq War</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-9">[7]</a></sup></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ann_Coulter" title="Ann Coulter">Ann Coulter</a> - Fired in 1997</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Tucker_Carlson" title="Tucker Carlson">Tucker Carlson</a></li> <li>Phil Donahue - Had a short lived show from 2002-2003. He was cut for opposing the Iraq War.<sup id="cite_ref-10" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-10">[8]</a></sup></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Alan_Keyes" title="Alan Keyes">Alan Keyes</a> - Had a short-lived show, <i>Alan Keyes Is Making Sense</i>, back in 2002.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Keith_Olbermann" title="Keith Olbermann">Keith Olbermann</a> - Was an anchor on MSNBC for eight years before they parted ways and Olbermann became the "chief news officer" for Current TV (which then got bought out by <a href="/wiki/Al_Jazeera" title="Al Jazeera">Al Jazeera</a>). He returned to sportscasting and served ESPN for a time before his contract ended. Moved on to GQ to rant about politics for about a year (which was a joy to watch) for charity. Now focused on getting endangered pit bulls to be adopted through Twitter.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Melissa_Harris-Perry" title="Melissa Harris-Perry">Melissa Harris-Perry</a> - Meh.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Chris_Matthews" title="Chris Matthews">Chris Matthews</a> - Center-right, and more or less a perfect example of a <a href="/wiki/Blue_Dog_Democrats" title="Blue Dog Democrats">Blue Dog Democrat</a>, as seen by his constant fawning over <a href="/wiki/Ronald_Reagan" title="Ronald Reagan">Ronald Reagan</a>.</li> <li>Bill Press - Was the liberal co-host of <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchanan_%26_Press" class="extiw" title="wp:Buchanan & Press" rel="nofollow"><span style="color:#477979 !important;" title="Wikipedia: Buchanan & Press">Buchanan & Press</span></a><sup><img alt="" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/18px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/24px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128" /></sup></i>. He was also cut for opposing the Iraq War.<sup id="cite_ref-11" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-11">[9]</a></sup></li> <li>Dylan Ratigan - His highly rated show concentrated on cronyism in the US government.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Michael_Savage" title="Michael Savage">Michael Savage</a> - Hosted a weekend call-in show <i>The Savage Nation</i> in 2003 before being fired for telling a crank caller "get <a href="/wiki/AIDS" class="mw-redirect" title="AIDS">AIDS</a> and die".<sup id="cite_ref-12" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-12">[10]</a></sup></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ed_Schultz" class="mw-redirect" title="Ed Schultz">Ed Schultz</a> - Left-leaning <a href="/wiki/Populist" class="mw-redirect" title="Populist">populist</a>.</li> <li>Greta van Susteren, was there only less than six months after leaving Fox.<sup id="cite_ref-13" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-13">[11]</a></sup></li> <li>Cenk Uygur - <i><a href="/wiki/The_Young_Turks" title="The Young Turks">The Young Turks</a></i> YouTube host also had an MSNBC show form 2010 to 2011. He claims he left MSNBC due to creative clashes with management.<sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-14">[12]</a></sup></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Jesse_Ventura" title="Jesse Ventura">Jesse Ventura</a> - Had a short lived show.</li></ul> <p>(Yes, there was a time when MSNBC hired rabid right wing hosts, regarding the inclusions of Keyes and Savage.) </p> <h2><span id="Any_alternatives?"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Any_alternatives.3F">Any alternatives?</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=MSNBC&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Any alternatives?">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>NBC News, it's <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.newsweek.com/government-shutdown-causes-washington-baby-boom-brian-williams-sex-joke-258525">far</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://amp.cbslocal.com/2014/01/16/brian-williams-cracks-pot-joke-during-nightly-news/">less</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jidziKYG9jk&list=PLykzf464sU98oQTXKDETkEH9hVhwH-wOD">political.</a><sup id="cite_ref-15" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-15">[13]</a></sup> </p><p>If you do watch the political programs sticking with Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes is safe, but one should avoid Chris Matthews, or go with him for a second opinion/some grounding. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Notes">Notes</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=MSNBC&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Notes">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <div class="references-small" style="font-size:90%;"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-3">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">At least as far as blatant <a href="/wiki/Partisan" title="Partisan">partisan</a> bias goes, it is.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-7"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-7">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">This is despite the fact that the morning show is actually hosted by Joe Scarborough, who's <a href="/wiki/Tokenism" title="Tokenism">basically</a> their <small><a href="/wiki/Alan_Colmes" class="mw-redirect" title="Alan Colmes">Alan Colmes</a></small> by his tendency to criticize others on the right. And despite the fact that <a href="/wiki/Pat_Buchanan" title="Pat Buchanan">Pat Buchanan</a> used to be a recurring guest on many of the shows for a long time.</span> </li> </ol></div></div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="References">References</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=MSNBC&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: References">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <div class="references-small" style="font-size:90%;"> <div class="mw-references-wrap mw-references-columns"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-1">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.salon.com/2012/12/19/hack_list_no_8_msnbc/">Hack List No. 8: MSNBC</a>, <i>Salon</i></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-2">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Magary, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.gq.com/story/the-least-influential-people-of-the-year">"The Least Influential People of 2016"</a>, <i>GQ</i> 12.21.16.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-4">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2708880">/* Errors processing stylesheet [[:Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css]] (rev 2708880): • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽background⧼/code⧽ at line 44 character 14. • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽background⧼/code⧽ at line 50 character 14. • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽background⧼/code⧽ at line 55 character 14. • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽background⧼/code⧽ at line 64 character 14. • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽color⧼/code⧽ at line 96 character 9. • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽color⧼/code⧽ at line 100 character 9. • Invalid media query at line 138 character 8. */ .mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFRowland2019" class="citation web cs1">Rowland, Geoffrey (2019-04-02). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thehill.com/homenews/media/436974-fox-news-wins-cable-news-ratings-race-for-69th-consecutive-quarter">"Fox News wins cable news ratings race for 69th consecutive quarter"</a>. <i>TheHill</i><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">2019-05-02</span></span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=TheHill&rft.atitle=Fox+News+wins+cable+news+ratings+race+for+69th+consecutive+quarter&rft.date=2019-04-02&rft.aulast=Rowland&rft.aufirst=Geoffrey&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fmedia%2F436974-fox-news-wins-cable-news-ratings-race-for-69th-consecutive-quarter&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Frationalwiki.org%3AMSNBC" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-5">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Howe, Caleb (June 19, 2019). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-kasie-hunt-identifies-segregationist-senators-from-bidens-civility-boast-as-republicans-they-were-actually-democrats/">MSNBC’s Kasie Hunt Identifies Segregationist Senators from Biden’s Civility Boast as Republicans — They Were Actually Democrats</a>. Mediaite. Retrieved March 14, 2021.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-6"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-6">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/hannitys-soul-mate-hate/">Hannity's Soul-Mate of Hate</a>, <i>The Nation</i></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-8"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-8">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/2017-ratings-msnbc-wins-cable-tvs-most-improved-award/353149">2017 Ratings: MSNBC Has Best Year Ever, Sees Most Growth On Cable</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-9"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-9">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-news-is-propaganda/">http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-news-is-propaganda/</a></span> </li> <li 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href="http://www.democracynow.org/2003/7/8/msnbc_fires_shock_host_michael_savage">http://www.democracynow.org/2003/7/8/msnbc_fires_shock_host_michael_savage</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-13"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-13">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/business/media/greta-van-susteren-leaving-msnbc-after-only-six-months.html">Greta Van Susteren Leaving MSNBC After Less Than Six Months</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-14"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-14">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x7o0sNrulg">Cenk Leaves MSNBC (Inside Story)</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-15"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-15">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JscLX0LnGLg">Fuck 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