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Topics includes Jony Ive’s promotion to Chief Design Officer and the implications for Apple; the differences in Apple’s internal design culture now that industrial and user interface design are under one roof; Google’s announcements at their I/O developer conference last week in San Francisco, including Google Photos; “machine learning”; Apple replacing the much-maligned discoveryd with good old mDNSResponder in the latest Yosemite developer beta; our thoughts on the space black Apple Watch with link bracelet; and more.</p> <p><audio src="https://web.archive.org/web/20160325101745im_/http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/208170858-thetalkshow-121a.mp3" controls preload="none"/></p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160325101745/http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/208170858-thetalkshow-121a.mp3">Download MP3</a>.</p> <p>Sponsored by:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160325101745/http://mailroute.net/thetalkshow">MailRoute</a>: Hosted spam and virus protection for email. 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