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Some of us were following Martha Stewart’s indictment for insider trading, and quite a few were lining up at bookstores to be the first to buy the 5th installment in the Harry Potter series. But Russell Katz, MD, was busy at his desk on this day at the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) headquarters, writing a letter to GlaxoSmithKline announcing the approval of their anticonvulsant lamotrigine in bipolar disorder. But the approval was not a slam-dunk. GlaxoSmithKline had submitted 12 trials, and only 2 of them were positive. Lamotrigine did not work in acute mania; it did not work in acute bipolar depression; and it did not work in rapid cycling.","_key":"afec8962a0581","_type":"span","marks":[]}],"_type":"block","style":"normal","_key":"a63f35be65e5","markDefs":[]},{"style":"normal","_key":"c0eb9ce72ebb","markDefs":[],"children":[{"_type":"span","marks":[],"text":"But bipolar disorder (BD) is a chronic condition, and that is where the medication succeeded: in the maintenance phase.","_key":"9d8e4fd3af040"}],"_type":"block"},{"_type":"block","style":"normal","_key":"2b3bbb539720","markDefs":[],"children":[{"_key":"64d6e68df2480","_type":"span","marks":[],"text":"The 2 positive studies looked at lamotrigine in the long term, over 1 and a half years. There, lamotrigine helped patients stay well about twice as long as a placebo."},{"_key":"73fb7856ebbe","_type":"span","marks":["superscript"],"text":"1"},{"_type":"span","marks":[],"text":" Katz knew that long-term studies like this were expensive and hard to come by, but for patients who have to stay on a mood stabilizer year after year it is this kind of data that matters most. So he gave it an indication for delaying new episodes of depression, hypomania, and mania in BD.","_key":"5db9d5a360d0"}]},{"markDefs":[],"children":[{"_type":"span","marks":["strong"],"text":"CHRIS AIKEN:","_key":"e07cb217d3d60"},{"_type":"span","marks":[],"text":" And that is how lamotrigine was launched. But there are a lot of loose threads in that story that have tangled into myths, and today we are going to unravel 4 of them so you can use lamotrigine more effectively in practice.","_key":"e07cb217d3d61"}],"_type":"block","style":"normal","_key":"184030a32757"},{"children":[{"_type":"span","marks":["strong"],"text":"A Warning","_key":"75b3c80a10a30"}],"_type":"block","style":"normal","_key":"233f91ee925a","markDefs":[]},{"markDefs":[],"children":[{"_type":"span","marks":["strong"],"text":"CHRIS AIKEN:","_key":"3959c05423550"},{"_key":"3959c05423551","_type":"span","marks":[],"text":" But first a warning. Lamotrigine is not a panacea. It works in BD, but it does not treat non-bipolar depression. There the studies are mixed: half positive, half negative. It has positive controlled trials in obsessive compulsive disorder, borderline personality disorder, and depersonalization disorder, but those studies are few and small."},{"_type":"span","marks":["superscript"],"text":"2","_key":"0fbe71658c79"},{"text":" So do not start prescribing lamotrigine to every moody individual you see, because this medicine has one big risk that makes those uncharted adventures unwise: the potentially fatal rash of Stevens Johnson Syndrome.","_key":"ed9d37b2069d","_type":"span","marks":[]}],"_type":"block","style":"normal","_key":"7117c4dbf031"},{"markDefs":[],"children":[{"_type":"span","marks":[],"text":"That rash is part of the reason that lamotrigine had such a soft launch. Early on, the manufacturer decided not to market lamotrigine to primary care practices, and to minimize direct to consumer advertising. The decision may have hurt their quarterly profits, but it helped them stay in the market. You see, lamotrigine was nearly yanked off the market after its launch in epilepsy 10 years earlier. Back then, doctors were starting the drug at 100mg a day, which lead to an alarming rise in potentially fatal Stevens Johnson rashes. The medication only survived when the company was able to show that it could lower this risk through the slow titrations that we use today. 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Lamotrigine failed in the acute mania trials, and nothing that we have learned about this drug in the 25 years since suggests that it has any role in acute mania. But lamotrigine does help prevent mania, although it is better at preventing bipolar depression than it is at preventing mania. What that means in practice is that you should not rely on it as the sole maintenance medication in patients with a history of severe mania, but it may be used as monotherapy in bipolar II disorder, where the depressions are more common and the manic symptoms brief and mild.","_key":"ae0762d35ea91"}]},{"_type":"block","style":"normal","_key":"3011d070f04a","markDefs":[],"children":[{"marks":[],"text":"In fact, many bipolar experts see good results in cyclothymic patients, who cycle frequently between mild depression, hypomania, and mixed states. 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The trials were never published, but most psychiatrists knew about them when lamotrigine was released, and it gave some of us the impression that lamotrigine was a weak mood stabilizer that barely got approved for an indication that was not at the top of the list for doctors or patients.","_key":"1512b45c33821"}]},{"_key":"5943f97d91b3","markDefs":[],"children":[{"_type":"span","marks":[],"text":"But we have since learned that lamotrigine does treat acute depression, it just takes a little longer than faster options like the atypical antipsychotics. The problem is that the early studies only lasted 7 weeks, and lamotrigine requires a slow titration that takes 4 to 6 weeks to reach a therapeutic level. 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But hey, cariprazine got FDA approval in bipolar depression with the same number needed to treat, and lamotrigine’s efficacy only starts to build at that 7-week mark. If you use lamotrigine for acute depression, you will probably need to wait about a month and a half to see an effect, and, judging from the longer trials, those benefits are likely to keep building over the next 1 to 4 months.","_key":"ccbd5a89a36a"}],"_type":"block","style":"normal","_key":"c117b51331c0"},{"style":"normal","_key":"2901ac965eb3","markDefs":[],"children":[{"_type":"span","marks":[],"text":"A common strategy then is to start lamotrigine with a faster-acting agent like an atypical antipsychotic, and then slowly taper off the antipsychotic as lamotrigine starts to kick in. 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And if you work in an outpatient office, ask yourself: When was the last time a patient came in saying “I’d like a medication to prevent bipolar disorder”? 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