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href="/wiki/User:PDiazR_(WMCL)" title="User:PDiazR (WMCL)">PDiazR (WMCL)</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pavanaja" title="User:Pavanaja">Pavanaja</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Paula_(WDU)" title="User:Paula (WDU)">Paula (WDU)</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:787IYO" title="User:787IYO">787IYO</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:DerHexer" title="User:DerHexer">DerHexer</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Der-Wir-Ing" title="User:Der-Wir-Ing">Der-Wir-Ing</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:Tiputini" title="User:Tiputini">Tiputini</a>:</span> hi all, I've sent the <s>Zoom</s> Google Meet link for the call to your email. Please let me know if somehow you do not receive it. Looking forward to see you tomorrow! <a href="/wiki/User:RamzyM_(WMF)" title="User:RamzyM (WMF)">RamzyM (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RamzyM_(WMF)" title="User talk:RamzyM (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy#c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618145700-June_19_live_call" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618145700-June_19_live_call"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618145700-June_19_live_call"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DerHexer-20240618145800-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618145700"></span>Google Meet link, but yes, I received it. ;) —<a href="/wiki/User:DerHexer" title="User:DerHexer">DerHexer</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerHexer" title="User talk:DerHexer">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy#c-DerHexer-20240618145800-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618145700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DerHexer-20240618145800-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618145700"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DerHexer-20240618145800-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618145700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618150000-DerHexer-20240618145800"></span>Apologies, old habits die hard :D a Google Meet link indeed! <a href="/wiki/User:RamzyM_(WMF)" title="User:RamzyM (WMF)">RamzyM (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RamzyM_(WMF)" title="User talk:RamzyM (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy#c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618150000-DerHexer-20240618145800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618150000-DerHexer-20240618145800"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618150000-DerHexer-20240618145800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-787IYO-20240618161700-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618150000"></span>I have received it and I will be available. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:787IYO" title="User:787IYO">787IYO</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:787IYO" title="User talk:787IYO">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy#c-787IYO-20240618161700-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618150000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-787IYO-20240618161700-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618150000"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-787IYO-20240618161700-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240618150000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NTymkiv_(WMF)-20240619135000-June_19_live_call"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:LucyCrompton-Reid_(WMUK)" title="User:LucyCrompton-Reid (WMUK)">LucyCrompton-Reid (WMUK)</a>:</span> hello, i sent the Google Meet link for the call to your email. looking forward to seeing you soon! --<a href="/wiki/User:NTymkiv_(WMF)" title="User:NTymkiv (WMF)">NTymkiv (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NTymkiv_(WMF)" title="User talk:NTymkiv (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy#c-NTymkiv_(WMF)-20240619135000-June_19_live_call" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NTymkiv_(WMF)-20240619135000-June_19_live_call"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NTymkiv_(WMF)-20240619135000-June_19_live_call"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240619140200-June_19_live_call"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Prajna_gopal" title="User:Prajna gopal">Prajna gopal</a>:</span> I've sent a link to your email as well. Let me know if you're joining! <a href="/wiki/User:RamzyM_(WMF)" title="User:RamzyM (WMF)">RamzyM (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RamzyM_(WMF)" title="User talk:RamzyM (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy#c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240619140200-June_19_live_call" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:02, 19 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240619140200-June_19_live_call"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240619140200-June_19_live_call"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_strategy_that_is_not_a_strategy" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_strategy_that_is_not_a_strategy-Implementation-20240913100900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_strategy_that_is_not_a_strategy-Implementation-20240913100900"></span>A strategy that is not a strategy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_strategy_that_is_not_a_strategy-Implementation-20240913100900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: A strategy that is not a strategy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-NTymkiv_(WMF)-20241118141000-Klára_Joklová_(WMCZ)-20240913100900">8 days ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Klára_Joklová_(WMCZ)-20240913100900-A_strategy_that_is_not_a_strategy"></span>Thanks for processing Wikimedia Foundation Affiliate Strategy (Recognition). It's certainly an interesting research report on the relationship between Affiliates and AffCom. </p><p>Even less, from my perspective at least, but it meets the requirements for Affiliate Strategy as such. What it completely lacks is a description and solution to the current affiliate crisis, a naming of the fundamental points - the incomparability between many user groups and chapters, and a suggestion of how the current system and form should evolve at all. These are, in my view, necessary steps towards the very foundation of the strategy. </p><p>Without resolving this crisis, the claims described for Affiliates may be solvable and achievable by some Chapters, but they completely miss the goal of conceptualizing, addressing, and setting an ideal strategy for the future evolution of Affiliates. </p><p>Without this, I fear we will inevitably go round in circles in setting up effective processes within the movement - particularly the financial flows and demands of Affiliates. <a href="/wiki/User:Kl%C3%A1ra_Joklov%C3%A1_(WMCZ)" title="User:Klára Joklová (WMCZ)">Klára Joklová (WMCZ)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kl%C3%A1ra_Joklov%C3%A1_(WMCZ)" title="User talk:Klára Joklová (WMCZ)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy#c-Klára_Joklová_(WMCZ)-20240913100900-A_strategy_that_is_not_a_strategy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Klára_Joklová_(WMCZ)-20240913100900-A_strategy_that_is_not_a_strategy"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Klára_Joklová_(WMCZ)-20240913100900-A_strategy_that_is_not_a_strategy"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Kl%C3%A1ra_Joklov%C3%A1_(WMCZ)" title="User:Klára Joklová (WMCZ)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NTymkiv_(WMF)-20241118141000-Klára_Joklová_(WMCZ)-20240913100900"></span>Klára Joklová (WMCZ)</a> Hello there, thank you for taking the time to follow along and meaningfully read the Wikimedia Foundation Affiliate Strategy (Recognition)! First of all, I agree with you that it is not a complete affiliate strategy. For context, this work was intended to help us provide a blueprint for the immediate work of the Foundation with affiliates, not to supplant a broader affiliate strategy discussion for the whole Movement. Thus it has a very limited scope, and it is primarily focused on the recognition strategy (as a direct responsibility of the Wikimedia Foundation Board for now).</dd></dl> <dl><dd>While this affiliate recognition strategy is in the early stages of implementation, the outcomes of the implemented changes are not known just yet. The plans are to continue to iterate and improve over the next year with the input from stakeholders. The main goal was to resolve some immediate issues, and hopefully have more data to have more fundamental conversations.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>This is also just part of the work that the Foundation is trying to do to address the strategy of affiliates. In addition to refining the approach to recognitions, the Wikimedia Foundation, with other stakeholders - both affiliates and unaffiliated community members - is working to co-create a strategy for support of the ecosystem of movement organisations with the launch of <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Draft_Movement_Charter_and_next_steps/Appendix#3/_Proposed_Changes_to_Affiliate_Ecosystem" class="extiw" title="foundation:Resolution:Draft Movement Charter and next steps/Appendix">pilot 3</a>. Pilot 3 will be worked on throughout 2025. The expectation is to collectively answer questions around the growth of new affiliates and the distribution of funds. I share your goal of conceptualising, addressing, and setting an ideal strategy for the future evolution of Affiliates and hope that is achieved together. Hope that helps, at least in the part that your concerns are heard and shared! --<a href="/wiki/User:NTymkiv_(WMF)" title="User:NTymkiv (WMF)">NTymkiv (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NTymkiv_(WMF)" title="User talk:NTymkiv (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy#c-NTymkiv_(WMF)-20241118141000-Klára_Joklová_(WMCZ)-20240913100900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NTymkiv_(WMF)-20241118141000-Klára_Joklová_(WMCZ)-20240913100900"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NTymkiv_(WMF)-20241118141000-Klára_Joklová_(WMCZ)-20240913100900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_the_new_process:_Why_so_complex,_and_so_private?" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_the_new_process:_Why_so_complex,_and_so_private?-Implementation-20241125201100"><span id="About_the_new_process:_Why_so_complex.2C_and_so_private.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_the_new_process:_Why_so_complex,_and_so_private?-Implementation-20241125201100"></span>About the new process: Why so complex, and so private?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_the_new_process:_Why_so_complex,_and_so_private?-Implementation-20241125201100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: About the new process: Why so complex, and so private?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sj-20241125201100-About_the_new_process:_Why_so_complex,_and_so_private?">20 hours ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sj-20241125201100-About_the_new_process:_Why_so_complex,_and_so_private?"></span>This seems like a time-intensive, multi-step approach to something that could fundamentally be public and iterative. What is the advantage of adding these private steps? (Costs include time, timeline extension, uncertainty about the status of each private step, and loss of the ability for the movement to learn together and optimize a more public process.) Specifically: </p> <ul><li>Why are the applications and answers to initial questions private?</li> <li>Why does the initial questionnaire need to be evaluated by staff? (which staff? we have so many people engaged in bilateral support, why is there no option for transparent public peer review?)</li> <li>Why does there need to be an hour-long live, private interview? 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