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<strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122117&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d" class="username">gnombat</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-12-08T17:37:17+00:00">December 8th, 2024, 5:37 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./../viewtopic.php?p=695236&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695236"><div><cite><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132055&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d">devavrata</a> wrote: <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695236&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695236" data-post-id="695236" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">December 8th, 2024, 4:01 pm</span></cite> <strong class="text-strong">Northern Rebirth undocumented alternate campaign</strong><br> <br> In Battle for Wesnoth 1.8.3, Northern Rebirth had three difficulties, I think the name was: Easy, Challenging, Hard. </div></blockquote> Actually back then there were four difficulties.<br> <blockquote cite="./../viewtopic.php?p=695236&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695236"><div><cite><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132055&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d">devavrata</a> wrote: <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695236&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695236" data-post-id="695236" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">December 8th, 2024, 4:01 pm</span></cite> At scenario 4, Clearing the Mines (the scenario for this thread), a scripted event happened: an enemy came close to Tallin, then I was given a strange chance:<br> -Cautious (Stay away).<br> -Brave (Inspire troops by killing abomination). </div></blockquote> It sounds like you were playing the add-on campaign <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=32239" class="postlink"><em class="text-italics">Northern Rebirth Remake</em></a> rather than the mainline campaign?<br> <blockquote cite="./../viewtopic.php?p=695236&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695236"><div><cite><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132055&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d">devavrata</a> wrote: <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695236&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695236" data-post-id="695236" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">December 8th, 2024, 4:01 pm</span></cite> Now, this situation must have happened not only in the version of Battle for Wesnoth current for 2020, but also in the previous years too. Was it there in 2011 and 2012, when I played the Northern Rebirth campaign in the Easy and Challenging difficulty? Possibly so - the development thread I found talking about it was from 2010. Was it there already, and did I not notice? </div></blockquote> Not really - the <acronym title="Wesnoth Markup Language">WML</acronym> code for the alternate branch was at one time included in the mainline campaign, but it was disabled and/or commented-out so there was no way to actually play it in the game. I believe it was playable only in the <em class="text-italics">Northern Rebirth Remake</em> add-on and possibly in very old versions of <em class="text-italics">Northern Rebirth</em> when it was itself an add-on (before it became a mainline campaign).</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p695259" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile695259"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132055&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d" class="username">devavrata</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=132055&sr=posts&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d">125</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 30th, 2012, 8:59 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content695259"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695259&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695259">Re: Scenario Review: NR 4 - Clearing the Mines - DIFFICULTY - ALTERNATE CAMPAIGN</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=695259&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695259&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695259" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132055&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d" class="username">devavrata</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-12-09T22:38:51+00:00">December 9th, 2024, 10:38 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./../viewtopic.php?p=695238&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695238"><div><cite><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122117&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d">gnombat</a> wrote: <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695238&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695238" data-post-id="695238" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">December 8th, 2024, 5:37 pm</span></cite>It sounds like you were playing the add-on campaign <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=32239" class="postlink"><em class="text-italics">Northern Rebirth Remake</em></a> rather than the mainline campaign?</div></blockquote> That would surprise me. I have not yet taken an interest on campaigns other than the Mainline - my intent is to finish the mainline campaigns in all available difficulties, only later would I search for new campaigns.<br> <br> Still, I cannot rule it out - I have been playing Battle for Wesnoth using computers with the GNU/Linux distribution Trisquel, which is an Ubuntu derivative. And something odd has been happening for some years - installing the game (as usual, from the system Add/Eliminate Aplications menu) gets the game installed with no campaigns. Using the Add-ons menu inside the game does certainly offer a lot of campaigns for downloading and playing - except the mainline ones! It took me a while to realize that in order to get the mainline campaigns I needed to use the system tool name Synaptic Package Manager, install the metapackage named wesnoth, and that would install all the packages for all of the mainline campaigns. Tricky. I cannot rule out the possibility that four years ago I was trying to play Northern Rebirth, noticed the absence of mainline campaigns, sought for it in Add-Ons instead, and got the remake instead.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p695261" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile695261"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122117&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d" class="username">gnombat</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=122117&sr=posts&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d">829</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 10th, 2010, 8:49 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content695261"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695261&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695261">Re: Scenario Review: NR 4 - Clearing the Mines - DIFFICULTY - ALTERNATE CAMPAIGN</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=695261&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695261&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695261" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122117&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d" class="username">gnombat</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-12-09T23:12:53+00:00">December 9th, 2024, 11:12 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./../viewtopic.php?p=695259&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695259"><div><cite><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132055&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d">devavrata</a> wrote: <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695259&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695259" data-post-id="695259" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">December 9th, 2024, 10:38 pm</span></cite> Still, I cannot rule it out - I have been playing Battle for Wesnoth using computers with the GNU/Linux distribution Trisquel, which is an Ubuntu derivative. And something odd has been happening for some years - installing the game (as usual, from the system Add/Eliminate Aplications menu) gets the game installed with no campaigns. </div></blockquote> Indeed, it is a known issue that <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=56927" class="postlink">Ubuntu installs Wesnoth without campaigns</a>.<br> <blockquote cite="./../viewtopic.php?p=695259&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695259"><div><cite><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132055&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d">devavrata</a> wrote: <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=695259&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d#p695259" data-post-id="695259" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">December 9th, 2024, 10:38 pm</span></cite> It took me a while to realize that in order to get the mainline campaigns I needed to use the system tool name Synaptic Package Manager, install the metapackage named wesnoth, and that would install all the packages for all of the mainline campaigns. </div></blockquote> Yes, that is the workaround.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="action-bar bar-bottom"> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=reply&t=20358&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d" class="button" title="Post a reply"> <span>Post Reply</span> <i class="icon fa-reply fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> <form method="post" action="./../viewtopic.php?t=20358&start=45&sid=0d5e1d15d47f0e6dfd38672dd796780d"> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-container-left dropdown-button-control sort-tools"> <span title="Display and sorting options" class="button button-secondary dropdown-trigger dropdown-select"> <i class="icon fa-sort-amount-asc fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="caret"><i class="icon fa-sort-down 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