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href="#ZINC_ID"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">ZINC ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Nikkaji"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Nikkaji</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Leadscope_ID"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Leadscope ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#CDD_Public_ID"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">CDD Public ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Melting_point"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Melting point</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Boiling_point"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Boiling point</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">size of team at start/size of team at finish</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#specific_gravity"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">specific gravity</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#RXNO_Ontology"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">RXNO Ontology</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Decomposition_point"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Decomposition point</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Sublimation_point"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Sublimation point</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Half-Life"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Half-Life</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Weight_of_person"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Weight of person</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#NDF-RT_ID"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">NDF-RT ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Vaporization_enthalpy"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Vaporization enthalpy</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Combustion_enthalpy"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Combustion enthalpy</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Kinematic_viscosity"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Kinematic viscosity</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Vapor_pressure"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">Vapor pressure</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Radius"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Radius</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Women_wing"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Women wing</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Youth_wing"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Youth wing</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#children's_organization"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">children's organization</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#student_political_organization"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">student political organization</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Associated_newspaper"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Associated newspaper</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#Membership"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Membership</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#frame_of_reference_for_opposition"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">frame of reference for opposition</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#BC_Geographical_Names_ID"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">BC Geographical Names ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Québec_id"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Banque de noms de lieux du Québec id</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#International_Nuclear_Event_Scale"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">International Nuclear Event Scale</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#Flash_point"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Flash point</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#focal_length"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">focal length</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#antiparticle"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">antiparticle</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#Astronomical_distance"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Astronomical distance</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#IDLH"><span class="tocnumber">34</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">IDLH</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#molecular_mass"><span class="tocnumber">35</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">molecular mass</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)"><span class="tocnumber">36</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">PubChem Substance ID (SID)</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#Binding_energy"><span class="tocnumber">37</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Binding energy</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#Solid_solution_series_with"><span class="tocnumber">38</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Solid solution series with</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#Pseudo_crystal_habit"><span class="tocnumber">39</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Pseudo crystal habit</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-40"><a href="#Kernel_version"><span class="tocnumber">40</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Kernel version</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-41"><a href="#Lithography"><span class="tocnumber">41</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Lithography</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-42"><a href="#Listed_in_PackageIndex"><span class="tocnumber">42</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Listed in PackageIndex</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-43"><a href="#Cell_line_ontology_ID"><span class="tocnumber">43</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Cell line ontology ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-44"><a href="#solves"><span class="tocnumber">44</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">solves</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-45"><a href="#Mass_excess"><span class="tocnumber">45</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Mass excess</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-46"><a href="#YerelNet_village_ID"><span class="tocnumber">46</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">YerelNet village ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-47"><a href="#CrunchBase_person_ID"><span class="tocnumber">47</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">CrunchBase person ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-48"><a href="#CrunchBase_organisation_ID"><span class="tocnumber">48</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">CrunchBase organisation ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-49"><a href="#Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID"><span class="tocnumber">49</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Library of Congress JukeBox ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-50"><a href="#Power_of_10_athlete_ID"><span class="tocnumber">50</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Power of 10 athlete ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-51"><a href="#FISA_ID"><span class="tocnumber">51</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">FISA ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-52"><a href="#Guthrie_code"><span class="tocnumber">52</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Guthrie code</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-53"><a href="#Deutsche_Ultramarathon-Vereinigung_ID"><span class="tocnumber">53</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">Deutsche Ultramarathon-Vereinigung ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-54"><a href="#FAST-ID"><span class="tocnumber">54</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">FAST-ID</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-55"><a href="#treats"><span class="tocnumber">55</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">treats</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-56"><a href="#treated_by"><span class="tocnumber">56</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">treated by</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-57"><a href="#solvent"><span class="tocnumber">57</span> <span class="toctext"><span dir="ltr">solvent</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-58"><a href="#Solubility_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">58</span> <span class="toctext">Solubility (en)</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="ZINC_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-ZINC_ID-2015-09-01T09:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ZINC_ID-2015-09-01T09:51:00.000Z"></span><span id="ZINC_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">ZINC ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ZINC_ID-2015-09-01T09:51:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: ZINC ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2015-09-01T09:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2262253935">.mw-parser-output .property-navibox{background:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd);border:3px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1)}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-header{background:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd);outline:3px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1);padding:4px}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links{float:right;margin:0}body.rtl .mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links{float:left}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li{display:inline;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li:after{display:inline;content:" – "}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li:last-child:after{content:none}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main{overflow-x:auto}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox table{display:table;overflow-x:visible}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main tr{vertical-align:text-top}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox[dir="ltr"] .property-navibox-main th{padding-right:1em;text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox[dir="rtl"] .property-navibox-main th{padding-left:1em;text-align:right}@media(max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-header{display:flex;flex-direction:column-reverse}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>td,.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>th{display:block}}</style><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2084"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2084" title="Property:P2084">ZINC ID</a> <small>(P2084)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2084" title="Property talk:P2084">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemical compound</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>number</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>PubChem etc</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Database with 22,724,825 compounds. <a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2015-09-01T09:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2015-09-01T09:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-01T09:51:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2015-09-01T09:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2015-09-01T09:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer"><bdi>GZWDer</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P2084" title="Property:P2084">ZINC ID <small dir="ltr">(P2084)</small></a> <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T13:51:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:51:00.000Z-ZINC_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Nikkaji" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nikkaji-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nikkaji-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"></span><span id="Nikkaji"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Nikkaji</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nikkaji-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Nikkaji"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z-Nikkaji"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2085"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2085" title="Property:P2085">Nikkaji ID</a> <small>(P2085)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2085" title="Property talk:P2085">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemical compound</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Jx.xxx.xxxA</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>KEGG, ChEMBL</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Database with 3,419,170 compounds. <a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z-Nikkaji" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 2 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z-Nikkaji"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z-Nikkaji","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:13:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z-Nikkaji"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:13:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:13:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 12 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:13:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-12T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:13:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:13:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T07:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:02:00.000Z-Nikkaji"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer"><bdi>GZWDer</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P2085" title="Property:P2085">Nikkaji ID <small dir="ltr">(P2085)</small></a> <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:02:00.000Z-Nikkaji" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:02, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:02:00.000Z-Nikkaji"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T14:02:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:02:00.000Z-Nikkaji","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:02:00.000Z-Nikkaji"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Leadscope_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Leadscope_ID-2015-09-02T09:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Leadscope_ID-2015-09-02T09:31:00.000Z"></span><span id="Leadscope_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Leadscope ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Leadscope_ID-2015-09-02T09:31:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Leadscope ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T09:31:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2083"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2083" title="Property:P2083">Leadscope ID</a> <small>(P2083)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2083" title="Property talk:P2083">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemical compound</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>LS-####</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>ZINC, ChemSpider, PubChem</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Database with 150,331 compounds. <a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T09:31:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T09:31:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-02T09:31:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T09:31:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T09:31:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:32:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer"><bdi>GZWDer</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P2083" title="Property:P2083">Leadscope ID <small dir="ltr">(P2083)</small></a>. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:32:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:32:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T13:32:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:32:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T13:32:00.000Z-Leadscope_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="CDD_Public_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-CDD_Public_ID-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CDD_Public_ID-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z"></span><span id="CDD_Public_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">CDD Public ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-CDD_Public_ID-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: CDD Public ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2086"></span>Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P2086&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P2086 (page does not exist)">no label</a> <small>(P2086)</small> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P2086&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P2086 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemical compound</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>number</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>ZINC</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Database with 1,412,817 compounds. <a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:42, 2 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:14:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:14:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:14:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 12 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:14:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-12T22:14:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:14:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T22:14:00.000Z-GZWDer-2015-09-02T11:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:14:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer"><bdi>GZWDer</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer"><bdi>GZWDer</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P2086&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P2086 (page does not exist)">P2086 <small dir="ltr">(P2086)</small></a> <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:14:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:14:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T14:14:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:14:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:14:00.000Z-CDD_Public_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Melting_point" data-mw-thread-id="h-Melting_point-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Melting_point-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span><span id="Melting_point"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Melting point</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Melting_point-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Melting point"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Melting_point"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2101"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2101" title="Property:P2101">melting point</a> <small>(P2101)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2101" title="Property talk:P2101">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>melting point of a substance at <a href="/wiki/Q102145" title="Q102145">standard temperature and pressure <small>(Q102145)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity (units = temperature)-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>en and fr infoboxes about chemicals</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>see <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Chemistry task force/Properties">Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Melting_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Melting_point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Melting_point","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Melting_point"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Melting_point"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Melting_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Question</b> I assume this needs a pressure qualifier? —<a href="/wiki/User:23PowerZ" title="User:23PowerZ"><font color="red">★</font>P<i>οωερ</i><font color="black"><b>Z</b></font></a><sub><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:23PowerZ" title="User talk:23PowerZ">talk</a></sub></sub> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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I think for a difference of 1-2 bar the effect is in the range of the measurement uncertainty. For melting point the heating rate during the measurement is more critical than the pressure. Fore example if you double the pressure you reduced the melting point of water by 0.007°C. Most of melting points have an uncertainty of 0.1°C so we can forget this influence. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:38, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z","author":"Snipre","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T19:18:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T19:18:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z"></span>Maybe a qualifier could point to <a href="/wiki/Q102145" title="Q102145">standard temperature and pressure <small>(Q102145)</small></a> for most measurements. For different laboratory conditions we would probably need a couple of qualifiers. Eutectic and azetropic points will be a challenge. I'm still hoping for a datatype that can handle multi-variate data sets. Especially for the pressure and temperature ranges of natural processes that would be interesting (E.g. A query for the melting point of water ice in the center of Jupiter). We have to start solid and simple ;). --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T19:18:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T19:18:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-07T19:18:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T19:18:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T19:18:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T14:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-06-08T03:24:00.000Z-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z"></span>Instead of requiring each claim involving this property to be qualified with fields for assumed information like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_conditions_for_temperature_and_pressure" class="extiw" title="en:Standard conditions for temperature and pressure">standard temperature and pressure</a>, I think it would make more sense to update the property documentation to note that those standards conditions are default parameters that qualify the claim. That is: don't specify the default qualifiers in each claim, specify them in the property documentation. This would drastically cut boilerplate-bloat. Qualifiers should be reserved for claims that vary the standard conditions. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Emw-2013-06-08T03:24:00.000Z-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:24, 8 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-06-08T03:24:00.000Z-23PowerZ-2013-06-07T13:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kaligula&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kaligula (page does not exist)">Kaligula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaligula" title="User talk:Kaligula">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saehrimnir" title="User talk:Saehrimnir">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 24 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Cvf-ps" title="User:Cvf-ps">Cvf-ps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cvf-ps" title="User talk:Cvf-ps">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Cvf-ps-2013-06-26T10:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cvf-ps-2013-06-26T10:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-26T10:58:00.000Z","author":"Cvf-ps","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cvf-ps-2013-06-26T10:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cvf-ps-2013-06-26T10:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:44:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:44:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 12 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:44:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-12T21:44:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:44:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:44:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:37:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> though is there a way to also refer to this as "freezing point"? Same figure, just depends whether you're starting as a liquid or as a solid. <a href="/wiki/User:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User:James Hare (NIOSH)">James Hare (NIOSH)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User talk:James Hare (NIOSH)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:37:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:37:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-25T11:18:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 25 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-25T11:18:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Boiling_point"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2102"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2102" title="Property:P2102">boiling point</a> <small>(P2102)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2102" title="Property talk:P2102">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>boiling point of a substance with pressure as qualifer</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity (units = temperature)-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>en, fr and de infoboxes about chemicals</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>see <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Chemistry task force/Properties">Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Boiling_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Boiling_point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Boiling_point","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Boiling_point"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Boiling_point"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Boiling_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Boiling_point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kaligula&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kaligula (page does not exist)">Kaligula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaligula" title="User talk:Kaligula">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z","author":"Kaligula","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:45:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:45:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 12 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:45:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-25T20:50:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 25 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-25T20:50:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="h-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: size of team at start/size of team at finish"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2103"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2103" title="Property:P2103">size of team at start</a> <small>(P2103)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2103" title="Property talk:P2103">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">number of players/sled dogs/etc. in a team at the start of a match or race</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Used as properties for races items. It could also be used as a qualifier for mushers in races to indicate with how many dogs they started with and for teams of cyclists. Also as a general item for types of sports teams.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>number</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1415139" title="Q1415139">Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race <small>(Q1415139)</small></a>: 16 qualifier <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/Q10578722" title="Q10578722">maximum <small>(Q10578722)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/Q28997" title="Q28997">sled dog <small>(Q28997)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2105"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2105" title="Property:P2105">size of team at finish</a> <small>(P2105)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2105" title="Property talk:P2105">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">number of players/sled dogs/etc. in a team at the end of the race or match</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Used as properties for races items. It could also be used as a qualifier for mushers in races to indicate with how many dogs they finished and for football and other teams for how many players they finished with.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>number</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1415139" title="Q1415139">Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race <small>(Q1415139)</small></a>: 8 qualifier <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/Q10585806" title="Q10585806">minimum <small>(Q10585806)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/Q28997" title="Q28997">sled dog <small>(Q28997)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <pre>rewritten <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 22 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start\/size_of_team_at_finish","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"></span> </pre> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"></span>I work on sled dog races and this is a very important information. We could use it three times for all races: number of dogs at the start pf the race, minimal number of dogs to be allowed to finish without disqualification, and as a qualifier the number of dogs with each participants had at the end of the race or when they scratched/withdrawn. <a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:57, 5 February 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start\/size_of_team_at_finish","replies":["c-Ash_Crow-2015-02-07T12:05:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z","c-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z","c-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ash_Crow-2015-02-07T12:05:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow">Ash Crow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ash_Crow" title="User talk:Ash Crow"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Ash_Crow-2015-02-07T12:05:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 7 February 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ash_Crow-2015-02-07T12:05:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-07T12:05:00.000Z","author":"Ash Crow","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ash_Crow-2015-02-07T12:05:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ash_Crow-2015-02-07T12:05:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"></span>Perhaps make a more generic "number per team"? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 21 February 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow"><bdi>Ash Crow</bdi></a>: Any comment? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 6 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-02-21T13:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z"></span>You mean for all types of animals you can attach to a sled/charriot/etc? If so, I agree. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow">Ash Crow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ash_Crow" title="User talk:Ash Crow"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z","author":"Ash Crow","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T16:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow"><bdi>Ash Crow</bdi></a>: I mean for all sports; 11 for association football, 15 for rugby union, etc. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 6 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T20:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z"></span>Seems weird to mix humans and animals on this.... -<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow">Ash Crow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ash_Crow" title="User talk:Ash Crow"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 6 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z","author":"Ash Crow","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-03-20T23:13:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-06T20:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-03-20T23:13:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z"></span>Ash Crow</a> it doesn't seem weird to me to use the same property for humans and animals but it does raise the question as to whether or not to count the human driver. There is of course the precedent of Rowing where the "mens 8" means 8 rowers plus a coxswain. I agree with Andy that it needs to be made more general for me to support it. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-03-20T23:13:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:13, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-03-20T23:13:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T23:13:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-03-20T23:13:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-03-20T23:13:00.000Z-Ash_Crow-2015-03-06T22:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/BA_candidate.svg/15px-BA_candidate.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/BA_candidate.svg/23px-BA_candidate.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/BA_candidate.svg/30px-BA_candidate.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="190" data-file-height="200"/></span></span> <b>Weak oppose</b> I would suggest things like <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">theteam</span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P527&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">dogs</span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><i>number of instances</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:number_of_instances" title="Special:Search/Property:number of instances">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"> 4</span> ⟩</span></span></div>. <span class="mw-code" style="text-align:right; display: inline-block; padding: 0.1em;"><a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>)</sup> </span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 8 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-02-05T06:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z"></span>Actually I didn't came back to this because I then thought we would need <i>two</i> properties, one for the start and one for the end, which could be used with qualifiers for <a href="/wiki/Property:P1352" title="Property:P1352">ranking <small dir="ltr">(P1352)</small></a> in the items of the races (see <a href="/wiki/Q19455277" title="Q19455277">2015 Iditarod <small>(Q19455277)</small></a> for example). We could then just add this information as qualifiers for each participant on races items and as qualifiers for races on participants items <i>and</i> use the two properties for general statements on races items with qualifiers for minimum and maximum values.</dd> <dd>But I don't understand @<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>: proposal at all: that would mean creating an item for each dog team? But teams change between races, mushers never use always the same dogs. It's not the same running the Iditarod with 16 dogs and the FL500 with 8... should we create an item for each team in each race?</dd> <dd>As for mixing humans and dogs, I don't see how we could do that at all. For sled dog races, you have always a minimal number of dogs to have at the finish line or you are disqualified. It's a central information, included on most reports. I agree we should aim for generic properties but I don't know many sports were you can drop a member of your team (and when this dropping is a sufficiently important information to be included on Wikidata). I fail to see how the alternative solutions would solve my current problem.</dd> <dd>What do you think @<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow"><bdi>Ash Crow</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>:? Any other idea? --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 18 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-05-08T11:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z"></span>How about if we rename this property as "size of team". I think that in dog racing "team" is well understood as referring to the number of dogs. <dl><dd>If a race has a starting team size of 10 and a minimum size of 5 then the race would have statements</dd> <dd><size of team:10 (applies to part:starting team)>,</dd> <dd><size of team:5 (applies to part:minimum size of dog team)></dd> <dd><participant:Caribou Barbie (size of team:6)(time:5 days 6 hours 5 minutes)(ranking:4)></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Would that work <a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 23 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-18T14:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z"></span>That would probably work @<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>:. We won't be able to indicate if a team started with less dogs than authorized (it happen) but it's not so frequent. I think it could work for <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick">Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</a> (with cycling) as well. --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-05-23T21:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z"></span>property name ammended as discussion above. OK @<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow"><bdi>Ash Crow</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda"><bdi>Harmonia Amanda</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>:? <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-21T08:40:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-05-24T17:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-21T08:40:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z"></span>Thank you. However, I now wonder why we couldn't just just "has part=dog" with a qualifying quantity? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-21T08:40:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-21T08:40:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T08:40:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-21T08:40:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-21T08:40:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T00:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"></span>Ok, so, as I understand, I can, on the item of a race, add P:size of the team:8, qualifier:instance of:sled dog, qualifier:<b>???</b>:number minimum and P:size of the team:16, qualifier:instance of:sled dog, qualifier:<b>???</b>:number maximum. I still can't indicate the most interesting information: with how many dogs each musher started and finished. Seems still more easy for me to create to properties "size of team at start" and "size of team at end", which offer us the possibility to enter all the data. Otherwise we are obligated to create horrible items like "minimum size of dog team" (what??), "8 dogs at the starting point" (which ok, would be a method to have the information with only this property but ><) and the same. We can't use qualifiers for qualifiers so, sorry we need either two more precise properties or <b>many</b> horrible items giving two/three information at the same time. @<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow"><bdi>Ash Crow</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>:. --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start\/size_of_team_at_finish","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z","c-Filceolaire-2015-08-23T22:46:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z","c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:53:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z","c-Filceolaire-2015-09-25T22:26:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z"></span>I agree with Andy above, I think we totally can live with a <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">The team</span> ⟩</span> <i><i>has part</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:has_part" title="Special:Search/Property:has part">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">sled dogs</span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><i>q1</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:q1" title="Special:Search/Property:q1">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">v1</span> ⟩</span></span></div> patterns. To indicate a min and max numbers we should create the min and max numbers qualifiers. To indicate the starting number and ending number we should add several statements with some <i>key event</i> or <i>valid in period</i>-like qualifier. possible examples, modelling for a team: <ul><li><div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">The team</span> ⟩</span> <i><i>has part</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:has_part" title="Special:Search/Property:has part">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">sled dogs</span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P1114" title="Property:P1114">quantity <small dir="ltr">(P1114)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P1114&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">10</span> ⟩</span></span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P1264" title="Property:P1264">valid in period <small dir="ltr">(P1264)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P1264&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">start of the race</span> ⟩</span></span></div></li> <li><div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">The team</span> ⟩</span> <i><i>has part</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:has_part" title="Special:Search/Property:has part">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">sled dogs</span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P1114" title="Property:P1114">quantity <small dir="ltr">(P1114)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P1114&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">10</span> ⟩</span></span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P1264" title="Property:P1264">valid in period <small dir="ltr">(P1264)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P1264&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">end of the race</span> ⟩</span></span></div></li></ul></dd> <dd>... That would work on the team item though. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z"></span>But <b>we don't have team items</b> and we won't ever have them. Each dog team change for every race for every musher. It's totally absurd. We won't create "team of Dallas Seavy in the 2014 Iditarod", "team of Dallas Seavey in the 2015 Iditarod" and the same! It's absurd, we don't have the data (the name of the dogs, for instance, we usually just have the name of the leading(s) dog(s) of the winning team. I said that months ago @<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>: and it's still true. These items don't exist and will probably never exist so it's not the solution. --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T13:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda"><bdi>Harmonia Amanda</bdi></a>: Let's call the team lead by one participant <<i>The participant</i> team'>. And you must have an item for each participants, and it's not a problem to have one for each participant's team, it's like any sportsteam. Let's say this team is not constant in dogs composition from race to race. Then you have this solution. This items would fulfils structural need, so we totally can have them. As you said, we can't put everything on a qualifier, so to express complex relations we have to use auxiliary items, and team items are commons in sport. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z","c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z"></span>That's even more absurd "each possible combination of dogs Dallas Seavey ever leaded in a race" item with you can't even add relevant data (like, the first teams Dallas Seavey leaded belonged to his father, then, they were his own dogs, many mushers work sometimes for a kennel and sometimes for another and sometimes on their own, and sometimes fabricates teams with dogs rented by several different kennels, a specific team may have received a prize (yes there is prizes for the dogs, which doesn't apply, of course, for any other dogs the same musher leaded in another race)), just to avoid creating a specific property! You actually prefer to create <b>several thousands</b> absurd items with no significant data associated than to create <i>two</i> properties? I don't understand you at all. @<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>: --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda"><bdi>Harmonia Amanda</bdi></a>: An item is just an identifier, it's not really important. If a racer can lead several team, then you can store the history of the teams he lead that way. I'm just trying to think a little bit generic because if we can find generic solutions, they will apply on other kind of races as well, so it can be worth thinking of what is really specific to this sport and what is not and can be factorized. This make the whole model more manageable and can allow infobox code reuse, for example. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T14:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>: Yes, one solution of two properties usable in any type of races, usable in infoboxes and when you need only to translate two properties in all languages. One other solution necessitating creating several thousands of absurd items with no interesting data, which we can't use in infoboxes because how can you use that in infoboxes, I wonder, and which means several thousands of translations to work in the case where these items <i>could</i> be used in infoboxes. Sorry if I think my proposition is much more generic and necessitating <b>less</b> work overall! --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda"><bdi>Harmonia Amanda</bdi></a>: Jeremy just drafted a proposal for <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Cycling" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Cycling">Wikidata:Cycling</a>, can you have a look ? Your pov is appreciated and we will be able to discuss all this with a little more higher view, I hate these discussions property by property who are way too focused on a detail to think well. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>: I don't see anywhere on the page the discussion about the number of people in the team. But my proposal should also work for @<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><bdi>Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</bdi></a>:. For cycling, "p:size of the team at start" should be used in the races items, with the value (and two values if, like for sled dogs, you have a minimal and maximal number of people/dogs/others in the team). And for each participating teams (and for each musher in the case of sled dogs races) you can use "p:size of the team at the end" because I think that in cycling too, a team can "lose" members during a race, with injuries or disqualifications (and "p:size at start" if they didn't begin with the "standard" number or if there isn't a standard number). So my proposal of two properties should be generic enough to work also on cycling (Jeremy, is that right?). --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda"><bdi>Harmonia Amanda</bdi></a>: For <i>size at start</i> you would need an item for the team ... And also, you'll have to say that the team is made either of dogs or humans, which lead us again to <a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a>. So although I get your point on creating new properties, which I do not oppose, I'm still not sure that this new one actually are the best way to do ... <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-J\u00e9r\u00e9my-G\u00fcnther-Heinz_J\u00e4hnick-2015-08-21T17:43:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T15:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2015-08-21T17:43:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour à tous, je m'exprime exceptionnellement en français parce que je suis crevé, si bien que ça ne risque pas d'être clair. En ce qui me concerne, je n'ai pas besoin de cette propriété, parce que le nombre de coureurs max et min dans une équipe est détaillé dans la section règlement de l'article, quand nous en avons le temps. Je suis donc incompétent pour répondre à cette demande, et comme je ne m'y connais pas dans les courses de chiens de traineaux, je n'ai pas d'avis bien tranché. <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick">Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2015-08-21T17:43:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2015-08-21T17:43:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T17:43:00.000Z","author":"J\u00e9r\u00e9my-G\u00fcnther-Heinz J\u00e4hnick","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-J\u00e9r\u00e9my-G\u00fcnther-Heinz_J\u00e4hnick-2015-08-21T17:43:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2015-08-21T17:43:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T15:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z"></span>Harmonia Amanda</a> I see your problem. the answer is that you have items for mushers and that has to substitute for teams. Each participant/musher has a bunch of qualifiers, one corresponding to each column in the results table. Now the results table for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Idatarod" class="extiw" title="en:2005 Idatarod">en:2005 Idatarod</a> only has columns for <a href="/wiki/Property:P1352" title="Property:P1352">ranking <small dir="ltr">(P1352)</small></a>, time and prize money (which will need datatype 'number with units' before we can create them) and lead dogs. I guess you want to add two columns for the team size at the start and finish. We can't have qualifiers on qualifiers so this has to be separate properties These are actually useful for other sports besides mushing. Players can get sent off in soccer and then the team has to play with 10 players or less. so I <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> the creation of two properties - <b>size of team at start</b> and <b>size of team at finish</b>. Can we go ahead and amend the proposal? If you want a <b>lead dogs</b> property then that will have to be a separate discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-21T14:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>: « For <i>size at start</i> you would need an item for the team » uh? Sorry? "size at start" necessitate a <b>number</b> in value. So I won't need an item, no. I'll need to add '8' or '9' or whatever number it is... but certainly not to create a dummy item to answer. On the item of the race I'll use as properties : "size at start" with value "10" and qualifier "apply to: sled dogs" and "instance of: minimum", and "size at start:16" with qualifiers apply to:sled dogs, instance of:maximum. I'll add as properties "size at end" with two values too, 8 and 16 (for example), with qualifiers instance of minimum/maximum, apply to: sled dogs. <i>Then</i>, I'll use p:participant with the name of the mushers as value, and "size of team at start: 14" "size of team at end:9" as <i>qualifiers</i> of the musher. And I have all my information without creating absurd and void items. These two properties could be used for several sports, because even soccer, or rugby, or volley, etc. can have teams without the number maximum of players and this number can change through the match. Seems to me like the easiest solution. What do you think @<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow"><bdi>Ash Crow</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>:? <small>(and I don't want right now a "lead dog" property, the data is much to scarce but I agree it's another discussion)</small>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:35, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z","c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-22T21:55:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z","c-Ash_Crow-2015-08-23T21:04:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T16:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z"></span>I <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> this. I'm going to go ahead and rewrite the proposal - see above. Tweak if I got anything wrong. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 22 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-22T17:06:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> the new proposition for two properties --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-22T21:55:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 22 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-22T21:55:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> too. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow">Ash Crow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ash_Crow" title="User talk:Ash Crow"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Ash_Crow-2015-08-23T21:04:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 23 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ash_Crow-2015-08-23T21:04:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T22:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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title="Property:P1872">minimum number of players <small dir="ltr">(P1872)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P1873" title="Property:P1873">maximum number of players <small dir="ltr">(P1873)</small></a> seem similar too except that I think those are for the total including all the teams, or something. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-23T22:46:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 23 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-23T22:46:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-24T00:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-23T22:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-24T00:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-23T22:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-24T00:37:00.000Z","author":"Harmonia Amanda","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-24T00:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-23T22:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-24T00:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-23T22:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:53:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> After explication, it seem different of other "players" property. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert">Fralambert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fralambert" title="User talk:Fralambert"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:53:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 24 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:53:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Now you can attach any <i>item</i> as unit for any property with this datatype. This means we can use a "sled dog" item as the unit for this property so we can say <size of team at start:21; unit = sled dog>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-25T22:26:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 25 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-25T22:26:00.000Z-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-08-21T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><bdi>Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</bdi></a>: @<a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert"><bdi>Fralambert</bdi></a>: both properties are created! --<a href="/wiki/User:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User:Harmonia Amanda">Harmonia Amanda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harmonia_Amanda" title="User talk:Harmonia Amanda"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-09-26T00:29:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harmonia_Amanda-2015-09-26T00:29:00.000Z-size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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section: specific gravity"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T18:04:00.000Z-specific_gravity"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">relative density compared to water</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q10972285" title="Q10972285">relative density</a> <small>(Q10972285)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemicals</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>any number (dimensionless figure) with optional qualifiers for temperature of the substance (default is 68 <a href="/wiki/Q42289" title="Q42289">degree Fahrenheit <small>(Q42289)</small></a>) and temperature of water (default is 4 <a href="/wiki/Q25267" title="Q25267">degree Celsius <small>(Q25267)</small></a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q41534" title="Q41534">starch <small>(Q41534)</small></a> → 1.45</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/default.html">Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards</a>, published by <a href="/wiki/Q60346" title="Q60346">National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health <small>(Q60346)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Future mass importation of the Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards into Wikidata.</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>This property is part of a planned mass importation of the Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards into Wikidata. <a href="/wiki/User:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User:James Hare (NIOSH)">James Hare (NIOSH)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User talk:James Hare (NIOSH)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T18:04:00.000Z-specific_gravity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T18:04:00.000Z-specific_gravity"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/wiki/User:DeSl" title="User:DeSl">Denise Slenter</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Emily_Temple-Wood_(NIOSH)" title="User:Emily Temple-Wood (NIOSH)">Emily Temple-Wood</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Pablo_Busatto" title="User:Pablo Busatto">Pablo Busatto (<i>Almondega</i>)</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ChemConnector" title="User:ChemConnector">Antony Williams (EPA)</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Wostr" title="User:Wostr">Wostr</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Devon_Fyson" title="User:Devon Fyson">Devon Fyson</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">User:DePiep</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:DavRosen" title="User:DavRosen">User:DavRosen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Benjaminabel" title="User:Benjaminabel">Benjaminabel</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:99of9" title="User:99of9">99of9</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Kubaello" title="User:Kubaello">Kubaello</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Fractaler" title="User:Fractaler">Fractaler</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain" title="User:Netha Hussain">Netha</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Hugo" title="User:Hugo">Hugo</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:S9a8m" title="User:S9a8m">Samuel Clark</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Tris_T7" title="User:Tris T7">Tris T7</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Leiem" title="User:Leiem">Leiem</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Christianhauck" title="User:Christianhauck">Christianhauck</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:SCIdude" title="User:SCIdude">SCIdude</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Binter" title="User:Binter">Binter</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Photocyte" title="User:Photocyte">Photocyte</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Rgiessmann" title="User:Rgiessmann">Robert Giessmann</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Wiljes" title="User:Wiljes">Cord Wiljes</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:AdrianoRutz" title="User:AdrianoRutz">Adriano Rutz</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Bjonnh" title="User:Bjonnh">Jonathan Bisson</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:GrndStt" title="User:GrndStt">GrndStt</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Ameisenigel" title="User:Ameisenigel">Ameisenigel</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Cthoyt" title="User:Cthoyt">Charles Tapley Hoyt</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ChemHobby" title="User:ChemHobby">ChemHobby</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Petermr" title="User:Petermr">Peter Murray-Rust</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Erfurth" title="User:Erfurth">Erfurth</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:TiagoLubiana" title="User:TiagoLubiana">TiagoLubiana</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:NadirSH" title="User:NadirSH">NadirSH</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Matthias_M." title="User:Matthias M.">Matthias M.</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:S8321414" title="User:S8321414">S8321414</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_F._Patel-Schneider" title="User:Peter F. Patel-Schneider">Peter F. Patel-Schneider</a><br/></div><p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Chemistry/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Chemistry/Participants">participants of WikiProject Chemistry</a> </p><dl><dd>I would somehow lean more towards expressing this like this: <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q41534&type=revision&diff=253477049&oldid=252851608">https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q41534&type=revision&diff=253477049&oldid=252851608</a> (this also avoid a dimensionless measurement). --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z-specific_gravity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z-specific_gravity"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T22:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T22:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T22:48:00.000Z","author":"James Hare (NIOSH)","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T22:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T22:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/15px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/23px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/30px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Not done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-26T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T18:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="RXNO_Ontology" data-mw-thread-id="h-RXNO_Ontology-2015-09-21T14:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RXNO_Ontology-2015-09-21T14:25:00.000Z"></span><span id="RXNO_Ontology"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">RXNO Ontology</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-RXNO_Ontology-2015-09-21T14:25:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: RXNO Ontology"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kopiersperre-2015-09-21T14:25:00.000Z-RXNO_Ontology"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2106"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2106" title="Property:P2106">RXNO Ontology</a> <small>(P2106)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2106" title="Property talk:P2106">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">RSC ontology for organic reactions</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q20991891" title="Q20991891">Name Reaction Ontology</a> <small>(Q20991891)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1049494" title="Q1049494">eponymous chemical reaction <small>(Q1049494)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>string</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q255452" title="Q255452">Wolff rearrangement <small>(Q255452)</small></a> → RXNO:0000051 <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.rsc.org/publishing/journals/prospect/ontology.asp?id=RXNO:0000051">[1]</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/rsc-ontologies/rxno/">https://github.com/rsc-ontologies/rxno/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Formatter URL</th><td>http://www.rsc.org/publishing/journals/prospect/ontology.asp?id=<b>$1</b></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/File:Rsc-ont.svg" title="File:Rsc-ont.svg">File:Rsc-ont.svg</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kopiersperre" title="User talk:Kopiersperre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kopiersperre-2015-09-21T14:25:00.000Z-RXNO_Ontology" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 21 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. Are you proposing to import the <i>instance of</i> and <i>subclass of</i> relations (as shown on the .svg file) from this ontology too? Is the license compatible? <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-21T22:35:00.000Z-RXNO_Ontology" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-21T22:35:00.000Z-RXNO_Ontology"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Almondega" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Almondega">Almondega</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Almondega" title="User talk:Almondega"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Almondega-2015-09-24T18:54:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-21T22:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Almondega-2015-09-24T18:54:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-21T22:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:51:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-21T22:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:51:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-21T22:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Decomposition point"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z-Decomposition_point"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2107"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2107" title="Property:P2107">decomposition point</a> <small>(P2107)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2107" title="Property talk:P2107">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">decomposition point of a substance</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>value with units-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szablon:Zwi%C4%85zek_chemiczny_infobox" class="extiw" title="pl:Szablon:Związek chemiczny infobox">pl:Szablon:Związek chemiczny infobox</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%89%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Вещество">ru:Шаблон:Вещество</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q79529" title="Q79529">chemical substance <small>(Q79529)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q9138794" class="mw-redirect" title="Q9138794">copper(II) acetylide <small>(Q9138794)</small></a> → 100 °C (with remark <i>explosively</i>) [from: <a href="/wiki/Q904273" title="Q904273">CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics <small>(Q904273)</small></a>, 90th] <p><a href="/wiki/Q174129" title="Q174129">gold trichloride <small>(Q174129)</small></a> → >160 °C [from: <a href="/wiki/Q904273" title="Q904273">CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics <small>(Q904273)</small></a>, 90th] </p> possible remarks to indicate <i>pressure</i> and like <i>explosively</i>, <i>violently</i></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>scientific literature (eg. <a href="/wiki/Q904273" title="Q904273">CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics <small>(Q904273)</small></a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo">Leyo</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Dcirovic" title="User:Dcirovic">Dcirovic</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Walkerma" title="User:Walkerma">Walkerma</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Egon_Willighagen" title="User:Egon Willighagen">Egon Willighagen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:DeSl" title="User:DeSl">Denise Slenter</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Emily_Temple-Wood_(NIOSH)" title="User:Emily Temple-Wood (NIOSH)">Emily Temple-Wood</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Pablo_Busatto" title="User:Pablo Busatto">Pablo Busatto (<i>Almondega</i>)</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ChemConnector" title="User:ChemConnector">Antony Williams (EPA)</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Wostr" title="User:Wostr">Wostr</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Devon_Fyson" title="User:Devon Fyson">Devon Fyson</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">User:DePiep</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:DavRosen" title="User:DavRosen">User:DavRosen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Benjaminabel" title="User:Benjaminabel">Benjaminabel</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:99of9" title="User:99of9">99of9</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Kubaello" title="User:Kubaello">Kubaello</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Fractaler" title="User:Fractaler">Fractaler</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain" title="User:Netha Hussain">Netha</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Hugo" title="User:Hugo">Hugo</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:S9a8m" title="User:S9a8m">Samuel Clark</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Tris_T7" title="User:Tris T7">Tris T7</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Leiem" title="User:Leiem">Leiem</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Christianhauck" title="User:Christianhauck">Christianhauck</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:SCIdude" title="User:SCIdude">SCIdude</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Binter" title="User:Binter">Binter</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Photocyte" title="User:Photocyte">Photocyte</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Rgiessmann" title="User:Rgiessmann">Robert Giessmann</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Wiljes" title="User:Wiljes">Cord Wiljes</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:AdrianoRutz" title="User:AdrianoRutz">Adriano Rutz</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Bjonnh" title="User:Bjonnh">Jonathan Bisson</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:GrndStt" title="User:GrndStt">GrndStt</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Ameisenigel" title="User:Ameisenigel">Ameisenigel</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Cthoyt" title="User:Cthoyt">Charles Tapley Hoyt</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ChemHobby" title="User:ChemHobby">ChemHobby</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Petermr" title="User:Petermr">Peter Murray-Rust</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Erfurth" title="User:Erfurth">Erfurth</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:TiagoLubiana" title="User:TiagoLubiana">TiagoLubiana</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:NadirSH" title="User:NadirSH">NadirSH</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Matthias_M." title="User:Matthias M.">Matthias M.</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:S8321414" title="User:S8321414">S8321414</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_F._Patel-Schneider" title="User:Peter F. Patel-Schneider">Peter F. Patel-Schneider</a><br/></div><p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Chemistry/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Chemistry/Participants">participants of WikiProject Chemistry</a> </p><dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Annotation from <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Chemistry/Properties" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Chemistry/Properties">Wikidata:WikiProject Chemistry/Properties</a> made by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micha%C5%82_Sobkowski&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Michał Sobkowski (page does not exist)">user:Michał Sobkowski</a>: "Decomposition is usually indicated in m.p. or b.p. records (as is proposed here, see above). However, it is not necessarily coincided with these values. Decomposition may take place without phase transition, e.g. in gas phase; an observed "boiling point" may be just decomposition into volatile product(s) without reaching the real b.p. of a substance; the phase of a decomposing substance may not be known. Thus, instead of adding unprecise remarks to the m.p./b.p.'s (which are reasonable only in printed material, to save place), an additional field assigned exclusively for this value would be advantageous." ∼<a href="/wiki/User:Wostr" title="User:Wostr"><span style="color:#507D2A; font-variant:small-caps;"><i>Wostr</i></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wostr" title="User talk:Wostr">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z-Decomposition_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 12 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z-Decomposition_point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z","author":"Wostr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z-Decomposition_point","replies":["c-Snipre-2015-06-12T19:35:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z","c-Jasper_Deng-2015-06-13T01:06:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z","c-Almondega-2015-08-14T02:59:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z","c-Filceolaire-2015-09-02T22:46:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:58:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z-Decomposition_point"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2015-06-12T19:35:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> But we have to be able to specify an interval. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-06-12T19:35:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-06-12T19:35:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-12T19:35:00.000Z","author":"Snipre","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Snipre-2015-06-12T19:35:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2015-06-12T19:35:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jasper_Deng-2015-06-13T01:06:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Of course this will have to have constraints; preferably I would like to see the temperature in kelvins and this cannot be applied to elements (compounds only).--<a href="/wiki/User:Jasper_Deng" title="User:Jasper Deng">Jasper Deng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jasper_Deng" title="User talk:Jasper Deng"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jasper_Deng-2015-06-13T01:06:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:06, 13 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jasper_Deng-2015-06-13T01:06:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-13T01:06:00.000Z","author":"Jasper Deng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jasper_Deng-2015-06-13T01:06:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jasper_Deng-2015-06-13T01:06:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Almondega-2015-08-14T02:59:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Almondega" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Almondega">Almondega</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Almondega" title="User talk:Almondega"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Almondega-2015-08-14T02:59:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:59, 14 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Almondega-2015-08-14T02:59:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-14T02:59:00.000Z","author":"Almondega","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Almondega-2015-08-14T02:59:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Almondega-2015-08-14T02:59:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-02T22:46:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. I changed the datatype to "value with units" as this should specify if it is celcius or kelvin. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-02T22:46:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 2 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-02T22:46:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:58:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-26T10:58:00.000Z-Wostr-2015-06-12T18:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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point"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Sublimation_point"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2113"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2113" title="Property:P2113">sublimation temperature</a> <small>(P2113)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2113" title="Property talk:P2113">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>sublimation point of a substance with pressure as qualifer</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity (units = temperature)-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>see <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Chemistry task force/Properties">Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Sublimation_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Sublimation_point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kaligula&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kaligula (page does not exist)">Kaligula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaligula" title="User talk:Kaligula">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Sublimation_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Sublimation_point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saehrimnir" title="User talk:Saehrimnir">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 24 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z","author":"Saehrimnir","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:46:00.000Z-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:46:00.000Z-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:46, 12 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:46:00.000Z-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T10:57:00.000Z-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T10:57:00.000Z-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z-Half-Life"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2114"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2114" title="Property:P2114">half-life</a> <small>(P2114)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2114" title="Property talk:P2114">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Amount of time required for the amount of something to fall to half its initial value.</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q47270" title="Q47270">half-life</a> <small>(Q47270)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#quantity" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Quantity</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_isotope" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox isotope">en:Template:Infobox isotope</a> <i>halflife</i></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>subatomic particles, radioactive isotopes</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2348" title="Q2348">neutron <small>(Q2348)</small></a> → 880,3 ± 1,1 s</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Propety needed for infoboxes <a href="/wiki/User:Pamputt" title="User:Pamputt">Pamputt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pamputt" title="User talk:Pamputt"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z-Half-Life" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 19 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z-Half-Life"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z","author":"Pamputt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z-Half-Life","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T11:20:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-09-20T08:35:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z","c-Aryamanarora-2015-09-22T19:49:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T11:12:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z-Half-Life"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T11:20:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T11:20:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 19 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T11:20:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-19T11:20:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T11:20:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T11:20:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-20T08:35:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> added "radioactive isotopes" to domain. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-20T08:35:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:35, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span 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decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Aryamanarora">Aryamanarora</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Aryamanarora-2015-09-22T19:49:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 22 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aryamanarora-2015-09-22T19:49:00.000Z-Pamputt-2015-09-19T11:13:00.000Z"><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z-Weight_of_person"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>weight of tennis player</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"weight" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_tennis_biography" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox tennis biography">en:template:Infobox tennis biography</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>n/a</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>ATP/WTA/ITF websites</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z-Weight_of_person" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 1 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z-Weight_of_person"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" 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data-mw-comment-end="c-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z-Weight_of_person"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AVRS-2013-05-04T14:55:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Remember about units. That English template supports both kilograms and pounds. --<a href="/wiki/User:AVRS" title="User:AVRS">AVRS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AVRS" title="User talk:AVRS">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-AVRS-2013-05-04T14:55:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 4 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AVRS-2013-05-04T14:55:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-04T14:55:00.000Z","author":"AVRS","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AVRS-2013-05-04T14:55:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AVRS-2013-05-04T14:55:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vinkje83-2013-05-07T10:02:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> No need to store two numbers, because one can be calculated from the other. <a href="/wiki/User:Vinkje83" title="User:Vinkje83">Vinkje83</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vinkje83" title="User talk:Vinkje83">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Vinkje83-2013-05-07T10:02:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:02, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vinkje83-2013-05-07T10:02:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-07T10:02:00.000Z","author":"Vinkje83","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vinkje83-2013-05-07T10:02:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vinkje83-2013-05-07T10:02:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> redundant with the pending <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending#Mass" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending">mass</a> property. 'Mass' is clearly applicable to both astronomical objects and people, and any other matter. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 8 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z","author":"Emw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> strictly speaking, mass is not equal to weight. For measuring people on Earth, it is moot, but if we want to make it a broad generic property, which is the right way to go, then we have to remember that in scientific disciplines (especially astronomy), weight and mass are two different (albeit related) properties. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:06, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z","author":"Joshbaumgartner","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Emw-2013-05-15T02:37:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z","c-Zolo-2013-05-15T07:22:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-05-08T03:01:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-05-15T02:37:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z"></span>Can you give a specific example of where this property would be used and where it would also not be trivially deducible from the subject's mass and its location (e.g. Earth)? I of course agree that <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight" class="extiw" title="en:Weight">W = mg</a></i>, but I think it's also important to realize that when one refers to at least a person's weight, the subject's mass is virtually always the more relevant and intended property. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Emw-2013-05-15T02:37:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-05-15T02:37:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-15T02:37:00.000Z","author":"Emw","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Emw-2013-05-15T02:37:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-05-15T02:37:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-05-15T07:22:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z"></span>Strictly speaking, mass and weight are two completely different concepts of course, and given that they are measured using different units, there is no way we can mix them. But the "weight" of a person really means his mass, have you ever seen the weight of a person measured in newtons ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Zolo-2013-05-15T07:22:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-05-15T07:22:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-15T07:22:00.000Z","author":"Zolo","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Zolo-2013-05-15T07:22:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-05-15T07:22:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> as a generic 'weight' property applicable to all items, not just tennis players or even just people. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) 10:06, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</s> <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 15 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z","author":"Joshbaumgartner","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:06:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-05-21T21:20:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> How does this work exactly? A person's weight does not stay the same. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Danrok-2013-05-21T21:20:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 21 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-05-21T21:20:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-21T21:20:00.000Z","author":"Danrok","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Danrok-2013-05-21T21:20:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-05-21T21:20:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><s><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span>Support</b></s>. We should wait until there are date qualifiers, so we could have "measured on YYYY-MM-DD" or "reported on YYYY-MM-DD". <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z","author":"Superm401","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z"></span>Actually, I'm not sure if we should have both this and mass. If it is approved, it should not be limited to tennis players, but probably be available to any object. <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z","author":"Superm401","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stryn-2013-05-22T07:51:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stryn-2013-05-22T07:51:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure about "reported on YYYY-MM-DD", e.g. on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Rafael-Nadal.aspx">Rafael Nadal's ATP World Tour profile page</a> is only "188 lbs (85 kg)", not any dates. But on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Rafael_Nadal" class="extiw" title="w:en:Rafael Nadal">en-Wikipedia</a> has "Last updated on" text on the tennis player infobox. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Stryn-2013-05-22T07:51:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stryn-2013-05-22T07:51:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-22T07:51:00.000Z","author":"Stryn","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stryn-2013-05-22T07:51:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stryn-2013-05-22T07:51:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-05-22T07:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span>Support a general "mass" property, as all these things are mass not wieght in the physical sense (sure enough, the word weight is commonly used, but I think the Wikidata label should have the technically accurate label to avoid confusions). For qualifiers, I would think that it is enough to use the general "as of" qualifier, possibly supplementted by others like <a href="/wiki/Property:P459" title="Property:P459">determination method or standard <small dir="ltr">(P459)</small></a> . --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:19, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z","author":"Zolo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Crazy1880-2015-06-23T09:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crazy1880-2015-06-23T09:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> The weight of it is not just for people. Is there a way to let the weight create a general? --<a href="/wiki/User:Crazy1880" title="User:Crazy1880">Crazy1880</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crazy1880" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Crazy1880"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Crazy1880-2015-06-23T09:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:46, 23 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crazy1880-2015-06-23T09:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-23T09:46:00.000Z","author":"Crazy1880","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Crazy1880-2015-06-23T09:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crazy1880-2015-06-23T09:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-22T08:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nikki-2015-09-13T12:13:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span>After going back and forth on this, I eventually decided on <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, because I don't think a separate property is justified. It's true that we use "weight" to talk about people when we're referring to the mass, but that usage is not restricted to humans, we use "weight" when referring to the mass of pretty much anything, e.g. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_banknote" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox banknote">en:Template:Infobox banknote</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_automobile" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox automobile">en:Template:Infobox automobile</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_animal_breed" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox animal breed">en:Template:Infobox animal breed</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_cheese" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox cheese">en:Template:Infobox cheese</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_computer_hardware" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox computer hardware">en:Template:Infobox computer hardware</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_building" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox building">en:Template:Infobox building</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_artwork" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox artwork">en:Template:Infobox artwork</a> is just a small selection of non-person infoboxes which have a weight parameter referring to the mass. I think it would be better to handle this via the label, description and aliases of the generic property (I would probably use something like "weight (mass)" as the English label but that's a discussion for elsewhere. :)). - <a href="/wiki/User:Nikki" title="User:Nikki">Nikki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nikki" title="User talk:Nikki"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Nikki-2015-09-13T12:13:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:13, 13 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nikki-2015-09-13T12:13:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-13T12:13:00.000Z","author":"Nikki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nikki-2015-09-13T12:13:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nikki-2015-09-13T12:13:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc3s5h-2015-09-13T13:10:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>. No need for a separate property just for people. Also, due to contradictory interpretations of "weight" and that it is rarely (if ever) necessary in wikidata to express the force of gravity on an object, the term "weight" should not be used. <a href="/wiki/User:Jc3s5h" title="User:Jc3s5h">Jc3s5h</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jc3s5h" title="User talk:Jc3s5h"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jc3s5h-2015-09-13T13:10:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 13 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc3s5h-2015-09-13T13:10:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-13T13:10:00.000Z","author":"Jc3s5h","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jc3s5h-2015-09-13T13:10:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc3s5h-2015-09-13T13:10:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> In a general property "mass" property we can't do range checks (0kg -- 100kg, plus exceptions). For other purposes, the property page for this could still hold a "subproperty of" statement. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Jura1","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jura1" title="User:Jura1"><bdi>Jura1</bdi></a>: Seems pretty easy to write some query combining your range check with intance of human or a subclass of it. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 13 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:46:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:21:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:46:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z"></span>If you will, of course, but you'd have to notify the contributors as well. If you wont help us, we would have to create a separate property and rely on the existing <a href="/wiki/Special:ConstraintReport" title="Special:ConstraintReport">Special:ConstraintReport</a> and its currently implemented features. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:46:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 13 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:46:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-13T13:46:00.000Z","author":"Jura1","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:46:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2015-09-13T13:46:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-13T13:35:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-14T14:24:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> not convinced that this property is worth doing since you can tell it's a human from the <instance of:human> claim. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-14T14:24:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-14T14:24:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T14:24:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-09-14T14:24:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-14T14:24:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-15T18:11:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> mass property is sufficient, since weight is a derivative of mass (W=mg). Mass is equal to 'weight at 1g' which is what the assumed use of weight for most things would be (a person's weight for example). <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-15T18:11:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 15 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-15T18:11:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, per above. --<a href="/wiki/User:Yair_rand" title="User:Yair rand">Yair rand</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yair_rand" title="User talk:Yair rand"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Yair_rand-2015-09-16T23:15:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yair_rand-2015-09-16T23:15:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, per above. --<a href="/wiki/User:Casper_Tinan" title="User:Casper Tinan">Casper Tinan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Casper_Tinan" title="User talk:Casper Tinan"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Casper_Tinan-2015-09-17T13:57:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Casper_Tinan-2015-09-17T13:57:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-17T13:57:00.000Z","author":"Casper 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class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:45:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:45:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-27T13:45:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:45:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:45:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-01T16:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="NDF-RT_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-NDF-RT_ID-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NDF-RT_ID-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z"></span><span id="NDF-RT_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">NDF-RT ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-NDF-RT_ID-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: NDF-RT ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z-NDF-RT_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2115"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2115" title="Property:P2115">NDF-RT ID</a> <small>(P2115)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2115" title="Property talk:P2115">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">The identifier for the National Drug File Reference Terminology</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q21008030" title="Q21008030">NDF-RT</a> <small>(Q21008030)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>drugs, diseases</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>N0000000000 Prefix 'N' with 10 digits</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q423111" title="Q423111">vemurafenib <small>(Q423111)</small></a> → N0000183250</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://rxnav.nlm.nih.gov/">https://rxnav.nlm.nih.gov/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Formatter URL</th><td>https://rxnav.nlm.nih.gov/REST/Ndfrt/allconcepts?nui=<b>$1</b></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Will be added and maintained by <a href="/wiki/User:ProteinBoxBot/Drug_items" title="User:ProteinBoxBot/Drug items">User:ProteinBoxBot/Drug_items</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>This property allows for linking the NDF-RT data to Wikidata items. NDF-RT is a authoritative resource on drug and disease concepts and also an important access point for drug-drug, drug-disease interactions and the MeSH terminology. This will give Wikidata one more important identifier in the biomedical sciences and enable unprecedented identifier mappings. <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebotic" title="User talk:Sebotic"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sebotic-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z-NDF-RT_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z-NDF-RT_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka">lv_ra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emitraka" title="User talk:Emitraka"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z-NDF-RT_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z-NDF-RT_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:48:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:48:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vaporization_enthalpy"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Vaporization_enthalpy_(en)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending/2">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Vaporization enthalpy (en)</a> </p> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2116"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2116" title="Property:P2116">molar enthalpy of vaporization</a> <small>(P2116)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2116" title="Property talk:P2116">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>vaporization enthalpy of a substance with temperature as qualifier</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity with unit-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>en, fr and de infoboxes about chemicals</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemistry, physics</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>Vaporization enthalpy of methanol: 37400.00 J/mol at 298.15 K</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vaporization_enthalpy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vaporization_enthalpy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vaporization_enthalpy","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vaporization_enthalpy"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Vaporization_enthalpy"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Vaporization_enthalpy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Vaporization_enthalpy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kaligula&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kaligula (page does not exist)">Kaligula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaligula" title="User talk:Kaligula">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z","author":"Kaligula","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-2"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saehrimnir" title="User talk:Saehrimnir">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 24 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T14:01:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T14:01:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Combustion_enthalpy"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Combustion_enthalpy_(en)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending/2">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Combustion enthalpy (en)</a> </p> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2117"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2117" title="Property:P2117">combustion enthalpy</a> <small>(P2117)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2117" title="Property talk:P2117">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>combustion enthalpy</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity with unit-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>en, fr and de infoboxes about chemicals</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemistry, physics</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>see <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Chemistry task force/Properties">Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Combustion_enthalpy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Combustion_enthalpy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Combustion_enthalpy","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Combustion_enthalpy"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Combustion_enthalpy"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Combustion_enthalpy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Combustion_enthalpy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T14:12:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T14:12:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Kinematic_viscosity"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2118"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2118" title="Property:P2118">kinematic viscosity</a> <small>(P2118)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2118" title="Property talk:P2118">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>viscosity of a substance with phase of matter and temperature as qualifiers</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity with unit-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>en, fr and de infoboxes about chemicals</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemistry, physics</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>see <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Chemistry task force/Properties">Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Kinematic_viscosity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Kinematic_viscosity"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Kinematic_viscosity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Kinematic_viscosity"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kaligula&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kaligula (page does not exist)">Kaligula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaligula" title="User talk:Kaligula">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saehrimnir" title="User talk:Saehrimnir">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 24 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T14:37:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T14:37:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vapor_pressure"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Vapor_pressure_.28en.29" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending/2">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Vapor_pressure_.28en.29</a> </p> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2119"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2119" title="Property:P2119">vapor pressure</a> <small>(P2119)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2119" title="Property talk:P2119">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>vapor pessure of a substance with temperature as qualifier</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity with unit-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>en, fr and de infoboxes about chemicals</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemistry, physics</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>Vapor pressure of methanol: 12,3 kPa at 20°C</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vapor_pressure" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vapor_pressure"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vapor_pressure","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Vapor_pressure"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Vapor_pressure"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Vapor_pressure" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Vapor_pressure"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kaligula&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kaligula (page does not exist)">Kaligula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaligula" title="User talk:Kaligula">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-5"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z","author":"Kaligula","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-5","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-5"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-4"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saehrimnir" title="User talk:Saehrimnir">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 24 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z","author":"Saehrimnir","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-4","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Saehrimnir-2013-06-24T15:46:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-4"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cvf-ps-2013-06-26T11:04:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Cvf-ps" title="User:Cvf-ps">Cvf-ps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cvf-ps" title="User talk:Cvf-ps">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Cvf-ps-2013-06-26T11:04:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cvf-ps-2013-06-26T11:04:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User:James Hare (NIOSH)">James Hare (NIOSH)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User talk:James Hare (NIOSH)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T16:08:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T16:08:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T16:08:00.000Z","author":"James Hare (NIOSH)","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T16:08:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T16:08:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:05:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:05:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:05:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-27T15:05:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:05:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:05:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Radius" data-mw-thread-id="h-Radius-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Radius-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Radius</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Radius-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Radius"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z-Radius"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2120"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2120" title="Property:P2120">radius</a> <small>(P2120)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2120" title="Property talk:P2120">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">The radius of an astronomical object (and other spherical stuff).</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity with unit-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_planet" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox planet">en:template:Infobox planet</a> <i>equatorial_radius</i>, <i>polar_radius</i>, <i>mean_radius</i></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Any spherical object (obvious case: planets)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:MER-C" title="User:MER-C">MER-C</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MER-C" title="User talk:MER-C">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z-Radius" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z-Radius"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z","author":"MER-C","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z-Radius","replies":["c-Paperoastro-2013-02-09T14:14:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z","c-Danrok-2013-02-24T19:31:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z","c-Sunpriat-2014-10-06T19:34:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:21:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z-Radius"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-02-09T14:14:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. I suggest to use qualifiers to distinguish polar or equatorial radius. --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Paperoastro-2013-02-09T14:14:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-02-09T14:14:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Danrok-2013-02-24T19:31:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-02-24T19:31:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-24T19:31:00.000Z","author":"Danrok","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Danrok-2013-02-24T19:31:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-02-24T19:31:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sunpriat-2014-10-06T19:34:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> it is necessary for infobox. <a href="/wiki/User:Sunpriat" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sunpriat">Sunpriat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunpriat" title="User talk:Sunpriat"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sunpriat-2014-10-06T19:34:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 6 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sunpriat-2014-10-06T19:34:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-10-06T19:34:00.000Z","author":"Sunpriat","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sunpriat-2014-10-06T19:34:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sunpriat-2014-10-06T19:34:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:21:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:21:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:21:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-27T15:21:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:21:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T15:21:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Women_wing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Women_wing-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Women_wing-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span id="Women_wing"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Women wing</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Women_wing-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Women wing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Women_wing"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Withdrawn</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">subsidiary for women in a political party or organization</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malline:Puolue" class="extiw" title="fi:Malline:Puolue">fi:Malline:Puolue</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q5622823" title="Q5622823">Template:Infobox political party <small>(Q5622823)</small></a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>organizations</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q5405349" title="Q5405349">National Coalition Party's Women's Association <small>(Q5405349)</small></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Important property to describe the element in its wholeness <small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Women_wing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Women_wing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Women_wing","replies":["c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Women_wing"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span>Seems overly specific, since <a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a> or <a href="/wiki/Property:P355" title="Property:P355">has subsidiary <small dir="ltr">(P355)</small></a> with a qualifier (<a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a>) to indicate scope seems to cover it: <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P527&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q5405349" title="Q5405349">National Coalition Party's Women's Association <small>(Q5405349)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q5405349&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q5405349&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P518&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q467" title="Q467">woman <small>(Q467)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q467&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q467&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span></span></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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I withdraw my proposal. --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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wing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Youth_wing"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Withdrawn</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">subsidiary for young people in a political party or organization</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malline:Puolue" class="extiw" title="fi:Malline:Puolue">fi:Malline:Puolue</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q5622823" title="Q5622823">Template:Infobox political party <small>(Q5622823)</small></a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>organizations</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q5137919" title="Q5137919">Youth of the National Coalition Party <small>(Q5137919)</small></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Important property to describe the element in its wholeness <small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Youth_wing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Youth_wing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Youth_wing","replies":["c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-1"],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Youth_wing"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-1"></span>Seems overly specific, since <a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a> or <a href="/wiki/Property:P355" title="Property:P355">has subsidiary <small dir="ltr">(P355)</small></a> with a qualifier (<a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a>) to indicate scope seems to cover it: <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P527&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q5137919" title="Q5137919">Youth of the National Coalition Party <small>(Q5137919)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q5137919&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q5137919&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P518&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q190007" title="Q190007">youth <small>(Q190007)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q190007&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q190007&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span></span></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z","author":"Joshbaumgartner","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-1","replies":["c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-1"],"displayName":"Josh Baumgartner"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-1"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner"><bdi>Joshbaumgartner</bdi></a>: you're right. I withdraw my proposal. --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-1","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-1"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="children's_organization" data-mw-thread-id="h-children's_organization-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"><span id="children.27s_organization"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-children's_organization-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span id="children's_organization"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">children's organization</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-children's_organization-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: children's organization"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-children's_organization"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Withdrawn</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">subsidiary for children in a political party or organization</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malline:Puolue" class="extiw" title="fi:Malline:Puolue">fi:Malline:Puolue</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q5622823" title="Q5622823">Template:Infobox political party <small>(Q5622823)</small></a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>organizations</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q17185079" title="Q17185079">National Children's Association <small>(Q17185079)</small></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Important property to describe the element in its wholeness <small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-children's_organization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-children's_organization"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-children's_organization","replies":["c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-2"],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-children's_organization"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-2"></span>Seems overly specific, since <a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a> or <a href="/wiki/Property:P355" title="Property:P355">has subsidiary <small dir="ltr">(P355)</small></a> with a qualifier (<a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a>) to indicate scope seems to cover it: <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P527&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q17185079" title="Q17185079">National Children's Association <small>(Q17185079)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q17185079&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q17185079&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P518&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q7569" title="Q7569">child <small>(Q7569)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q7569&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q7569&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span></span></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z","author":"Joshbaumgartner","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-2","replies":["c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-2"],"displayName":"Josh Baumgartner"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-2"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-2"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner"><bdi>Joshbaumgartner</bdi></a>: you're right. I withdraw my proposal. --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: student political organization"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-student_political_organization"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Withdrawn</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">subsidiary for teacher in a political party or organization</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malline:Puolue" class="extiw" title="fi:Malline:Puolue">fi:Malline:Puolue</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q5622823" title="Q5622823">Template:Infobox political party <small>(Q5622823)</small></a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>organizations</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q10660958" title="Q10660958">Student Union of National Coalition Party <small>(Q10660958)</small></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Important property to describe the element in its wholeness <small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-student_political_organization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-student_political_organization"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-student_political_organization","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-student_political_organization"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z-student_political_organization"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><bdi>Airon90</bdi></a>: Can you translate both example items into English. We have to make sure that the most people possible, understand the example in order to use the property. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z-student_political_organization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 15 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z-student_political_organization"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z-student_political_organization","replies":["c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z","c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z-student_political_organization"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure for the translations (Italian is my mother tongue and I can't translate that word) so I commented it. You can find it between <!-- and -->. I'll translate the item names tomorrow ASAP --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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#C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P527&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q10660958" title="Q10660958">Student Union of National Coalition Party <small>(Q10660958)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q10660958&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q10660958&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P518&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q48282" title="Q48282">student <small>(Q48282)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q48282&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q48282&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span></span></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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I withdraw my proposal. --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T03:32:00.000Z-3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Associated newspaper"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Associated_newspaper"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Withdrawn</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">official newspaper of a political party or organization</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malline:Puolue" class="extiw" title="fi:Malline:Puolue">fi:Malline:Puolue</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q5622823" title="Q5622823">Template:Infobox political party <small>(Q5622823)</small></a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>organizations</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q18661033" title="Q18661033">Nykypäivä <small>(Q18661033)</small></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Important property to describe the element in its wholeness <small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Associated_newspaper" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Associated_newspaper"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Associated_newspaper","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Associated_newspaper"></span> </p> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z-Associated_newspaper"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> @<a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><bdi>Airon90</bdi></a>: I think "associated newspaper" would be clearer. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z-Associated_newspaper" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 15 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z-Associated_newspaper"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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I don't care about the name but about the concept :P --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T22:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><bdi>Airon90</bdi></a>: It is mostly to make sure that the properties are well defined before they are created. Further examples for this property might be <a href="/wiki/Q154797" title="Q154797">German Bundestag <small>(Q154797)</small></a> = <a href="/wiki/Q1170039" title="Q1170039">Das Parlament <small>(Q1170039)</small></a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T22:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 15 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T22:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Overly specific, since <a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a> or <a href="/wiki/Property:P355" title="Property:P355">has subsidiary <small dir="ltr">(P355)</small></a> seems to cover it as <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P355" title="Property:P355">has subsidiary <small dir="ltr">(P355)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P355&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q18661033" title="Q18661033">Nykypäivä <small>(Q18661033)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q18661033&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q18661033&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P366" title="Property:P366">has use <small dir="ltr">(P366)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P366&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q11032" title="Q11032">newspaper <small>(Q11032)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q11032&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q11032&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span></span></div> or if the newspaper is not actually owned by the organization, but merely affiliated with it the claim should be on the newspaper's item as <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q18661033" title="Q18661033">Nykypäivä <small>(Q18661033)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q18661033&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q18661033&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P1416" title="Property:P1416">affiliation <small dir="ltr">(P1416)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P1416&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:04, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z","author":"Joshbaumgartner","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Josh Baumgartner"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T20:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner"><bdi>Joshbaumgartner</bdi></a>: you're right. I withdraw my proposal. --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-17T15:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Membership"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Membership"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2124"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2124" title="Property:P2124">member count</a> <small>(P2124)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2124" title="Property talk:P2124">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">number of people who joined an organization</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malline:Puolue" class="extiw" title="fi:Malline:Puolue">fi:Malline:Puolue</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q5622823" title="Q5622823">Template:Infobox political party <small>(Q5622823)</small></a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>organizations</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q637369" title="Q637369">Arcigay <small>(Q637369)</small></a> → 228,563<br/><small>Old example: <a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a> → 41,000</small></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Important property to describe the element in its wholeness <small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Membership" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Membership"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Membership","replies":["c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T12:12:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","c-Jura1-2015-09-28T22:46:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-29T07:46:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-09-29T11:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z-Membership"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> @<a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><bdi>Airon90</bdi></a>: I think the example should work with <a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: Not at all: P1342 is for members of an institution. This one is for quantify the member of a party. Things are very different. --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-15T21:41:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-15T19:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a> will work fine, there is no need for it to be so specific.</s> <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:04, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z","author":"Joshbaumgartner","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Josh Baumgartner"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner"><bdi>Joshbaumgartner</bdi></a>: Did you read what I wrote above? Read the English description of the property <a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a>: «number of seats/members <b>in an assembly (legislative house or similar)</b>». It can't be used to describe the member of an organization. What about non-political organizations? I changed the example to avoid confusion. --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z","author":"Airon90","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tobias1984-2015-09-16T09:47:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z","c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2192 A"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T04:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-16T09:47:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><bdi>Airon90</bdi></a>: We are constantly redifining properties on Wikidata. Just go to the talk page of <a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a> and announce that you will change the label or add aliases to fit your use-case. If nobody diasagrees with you, then you can make the changes, ping a few translators and then you can go ahead and add the new statements. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-16T09:47:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-16T09:47:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-16T09:47:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-16T09:47:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-16T09:47:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><bdi>Airon90</bdi></a>: Let me clarify: there is no need for <a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a> to be so specific. As Tobias states, you can simply broaden it to allow for your use case here without needing to create a new property. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z","author":"Joshbaumgartner","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Airon90-2015-09-16T18:48:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Josh Baumgartner"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T08:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2015-09-16T18:48:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner"><bdi>Joshbaumgartner</bdi></a>: I <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> to a redefinition of the property 1342 because - if so - it will be used in the same item with different meaning (member in institution (Parliament, EU, ...) and member of the party: in the old example there will be <a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a> → [37 <small>(Eduskunta)</small>, 5 <small>(EU)</small>, 41000 <small>(membership)</small>] ) and IMHO it is an incorrect use of a property. I don't think that this property is too specific or more specific tham P1342 simply because they covers two different areas. IMHO. :) --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-16T18:48:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-16T18:48:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-16T18:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P1342&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"> 41000</span> ⟩</span></div></dd> <dd><div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P1342&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"> 37</span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of <small dir="ltr">(P361)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P361&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q643412" title="Q643412">Parliament of Finland <small>(Q643412)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q643412&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q643412&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span></span></div></dd> <dd><div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q304191" title="Q304191">National Coalition Party <small>(Q304191)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q304191&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P1342&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"> 5</span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of <small dir="ltr">(P361)</small></a><small> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=P361&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q458" title="Q458">European Union <small>(Q458)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q458&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q458&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span></span></div></dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certaldo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certaldo (page does not exist)">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-17T20:57:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T18:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-17T20:57:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T18:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-17T20:57:00.000Z","author":"Joshbaumgartner","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-17T20:57:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T18:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-17T20:57:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-16T18:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T12:12:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. Don't use <a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a>. That has a specific meaning related to numbers elected to a council or parliament and should not be confused with general membership. That is why we have specific "<i>member of</i>" properties like <a href="/wiki/Property:P54" title="Property:P54">member of sports team <small dir="ltr">(P54)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P102" title="Property:P102">member of political party <small dir="ltr">(P102)</small></a>. Once this new proposal is accepted add a "subproperty of" statement to all the other "member of" properties. We should probably change the name of P1342 too to make it clearer what it refers to. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T12:12:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 19 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-19T12:12:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> it seems to the confusion in this discussion is due to the fact that someone changed the label (and implicitly the scope) of P1342 without any prior consultation. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-09-28T22:46:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 28 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2015-09-28T22:46:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Airon90-2015-09-29T07:39:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-28T22:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:39, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2015-09-29T07:39:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-28T22:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Seems alright. <a href="/wiki/Property:P1342" title="Property:P1342">number of seats <small dir="ltr">(P1342)</small></a> need not be so specific, but that shouldn't hold up this property at this point since fixing it doesn't seem to be in the cards. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Josh Baumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-29T07:46:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-29T07:46:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-29T07:46:00.000Z","author":"Joshbaumgartner","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-29T07:46:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Josh Baumgartner"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2015-09-29T07:46:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-29T11:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Time to try this out and see if it works. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-29T11:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-29T11:41:00.000Z-Airon90-2015-09-14T16:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: frame of reference for opposition"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z-frame_of_reference_for_opposition"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Withdrawn</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">qualifier for the property "opposite of" (P461) to define the context of the opposition</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>qualifier only on <a href="/wiki/Property:P461" title="Property:P461">opposite of <small dir="ltr">(P461)</small></a> only</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>items explaining the frame of reference/context for the opposition</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q6581072" title="Q6581072">female <small>(Q6581072)</small></a>: <a href="/wiki/Property:P461" title="Property:P461">opposite of <small dir="ltr">(P461)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q6581097" title="Q6581097">male <small>(Q6581097)</small></a>: frame of reference for opposition: <a href="/wiki/Q5530970" title="Q5530970">gender binary <small>(Q5530970)</small></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> This proposal is based on a suggestion by @<a href="/wiki/User:AVRS" title="User:AVRS"><bdi>AVRS</bdi></a>: <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#opposite_of_.28P461.29" title="Wikidata:Properties for deletion">here</a>. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z-frame_of_reference_for_opposition" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:28, 28 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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id="c-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:45:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Some of the opposites can't be understood without the context, or should be understood as oppositions within that context. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:45:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:45, 28 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:45:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-28T07:45:00.000Z","author":"Jura1","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:45:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:45:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> The discussion on deleting <a href="/wiki/Property:P461" title="Property:P461">opposite of <small dir="ltr">(P461)</small></a> is not closed. Please do not conclude this discussion before it is. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I proposed a solution using another property and the partion notion : humans are either men, women or transgender, which is well defined and more precise than this one. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 28 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z"></span>I suggest you use Wikipedia's talk page to comment on their POV. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 28 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z","author":"Jura1","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-08-28T09:28:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z"></span>What ? <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 28 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-28T12:05:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T09:33:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lymantria-2015-08-30T12:29:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Lymantria" title="User:Lymantria">Lymantria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lymantria" title="User talk:Lymantria"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Lymantria-2015-08-30T12:29:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 30 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lymantria-2015-08-30T12:29:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-30T12:29:00.000Z","author":"Lymantria","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lymantria-2015-08-30T12:29:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lymantria-2015-08-30T12:29:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span>Hmm. I could support this as a general qualifier to give more info about properties ("Frame of reference" or "specifically" or something similar) but it probably won't be enough to convince me that <a href="/wiki/Property:P461" title="Property:P461">opposite of <small dir="ltr">(P461)</small></a> as currently used is worth keeping. I just don't see women as the opposite of men when the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/intersex" class="extiw" title="en:intersex">en:intersex</a> article list five different things that can define biological sex (not to mention the types of gender identity - have we figured out how to classify drag queens yet?). <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 31 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z"></span>The property has over 500 uses currently — certainly not mostly gender-related, although very many of them are "Films shot in …" vs "Films set in …" (?!). --<a href="/wiki/User:AVRS" title="User:AVRS">AVRS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AVRS" title="User talk:AVRS"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 6 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z","author":"AVRS","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-31T18:17:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z"></span>Hey; you picked that as you example. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 6 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:09:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-06T21:19:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:09:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z"></span>Not really. All I started was the creation of the property <a href="/wiki/Property:P461" title="Property:P461">opposite of <small dir="ltr">(P461)</small></a> at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/6#P461" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/6">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/6#P461</a>. I haven't even added it to "man" and "woman", but someone criticized it based on what others have done later, so I suggested a solution based on what is used for other properties, and Jura made this proposal based on it. --<a href="/wiki/User:AVRS" title="User:AVRS">AVRS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AVRS" title="User talk:AVRS"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:09:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 7 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:09:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-07T10:09:00.000Z","author":"AVRS","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:09:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:09:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T22:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> See also: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P794&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P794 (page does not exist)">P794 <small dir="ltr">(P794)</small></a> (an alternative to <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> for antipodes?), <a href="/wiki/Property:P1013" title="Property:P1013">criterion used <small dir="ltr">(P1013)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P1441" title="Property:P1441">present in work <small dir="ltr">(P1441)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P1080" title="Property:P1080">from narrative universe <small dir="ltr">(P1080)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of <small dir="ltr">(P361)</small></a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:AVRS" title="User:AVRS">AVRS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AVRS" title="User talk:AVRS"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 7 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z","author":"AVRS","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-AVRS-2015-09-13T11:02:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z","c-Jura1-2015-09-07T10:45:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AVRS-2015-09-13T11:02:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z"></span>Note that <a href="/wiki/Property:P1013" title="Property:P1013">criterion used <small dir="ltr">(P1013)</small></a> currently has an incompatible definition at <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1013" title="Property talk:P1013">Property talk:P1013</a>. For gender, <a href="/wiki/Property:P459" title="Property:P459">determination method or standard <small dir="ltr">(P459)</small></a> seems better (if gender binary can be called a method; the English Wikipedia article calls it a classification). For antipodes, either <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P794&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P794 (page does not exist)">P794 <small dir="ltr">(P794)</small></a> (still no better than <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a>?) or <a href="/wiki/Property:P1013" title="Property:P1013">criterion used <small dir="ltr">(P1013)</small></a>. Also, IIRC, the list I presented is from searching for properties containing "as" or related to fiction. --<a href="/wiki/User:AVRS" title="User:AVRS">AVRS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AVRS" title="User talk:AVRS"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-AVRS-2015-09-13T11:02:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 13 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AVRS-2015-09-13T11:02:00.000Z-AVRS-2015-09-07T10:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, use <a href="/wiki/Property:P1013" title="Property:P1013">criterion used <small dir="ltr">(P1013)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Popcorndude" title="User:Popcorndude">Popcorndude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Popcorndude" title="User talk:Popcorndude"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Popcorndude-2015-09-08T00:46:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 8 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Popcorndude-2015-09-08T00:46:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>. <a href="/wiki/Property:P1013" title="Property:P1013">criterion used <small dir="ltr">(P1013)</small></a> sound better to me. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T20:55:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 12 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> withdrawn</b> using <a href="/wiki/Property:P1013" title="Property:P1013">criterion used <small dir="ltr">(P1013)</small></a> instead. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-09-26T06:43:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2015-09-26T06:43:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-26T06:43:00.000Z","author":"Jura1","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jura1-2015-09-26T06:43:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2015-09-26T06:43:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-08-28T07:28:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="BC_Geographical_Names_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-BC_Geographical_Names_ID-2015-08-24T00:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-BC_Geographical_Names_ID-2015-08-24T00:29:00.000Z"></span><span id="BC_Geographical_Names_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">BC Geographical Names ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-BC_Geographical_Names_ID-2015-08-24T00:29:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: BC Geographical Names ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:29:00.000Z-BC_Geographical_Names_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2099"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2099" title="Property:P2099">BC Geographical Names ID</a> <small>(P2099)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2099" title="Property talk:P2099">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Unique ID of the <a href="/wiki/Q795716" title="Q795716">BC Geographical Names <small>(Q795716)</small></a>}</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:BCGNIS" class="extiw" title="en:Template:BCGNIS">en:Template:BCGNIS</a>: id =</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2221906" title="Q2221906">geographic location <small>(Q2221906)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>d+</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1544340" title="Q1544340">Mount Fairweather <small>(Q1544340)</small></a> → <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://apps.gov.bc.ca/pub/bcgnws/names/38638.html">38638</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://geobc.gov.bc.ca/base-mapping/atlas/bcnames/">http://geobc.gov.bc.ca/base-mapping/atlas/bcnames/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Formatter URL</th><td>http://apps.gov.bc.ca/pub/bcgnws/names/<b>$1</b>.html</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>This proprety is used on enwiki for as a sources for the coordinate and the origin of geographical names in <a href="/wiki/Q1974" class="mw-redirect" title="Q1974">British Columbia <small>(Q1974)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert">Fralambert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fralambert" title="User talk:Fralambert"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:29:00.000Z-BC_Geographical_Names_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:29:00.000Z-BC_Geographical_Names_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim">Pasleim</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasleim" title="User talk:Pasleim"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z-BC_Geographical_Names_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z-BC_Geographical_Names_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User:Jonathan Groß">Jonathan Groß</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User talk:Jonathan Groß"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> with <a href="/wiki/Property:P2099" title="Property:P2099">BC Geographical Names ID <small dir="ltr">(P2099)</small></a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert">Fralambert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fralambert" title="User talk:Fralambert"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Fralambert-2015-09-24T00:08:00.000Z-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fralambert-2015-09-24T00:08:00.000Z-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z"><span 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lang="en">Banque de noms de lieux du Québec id</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Québec_id-2015-08-24T00:46:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Banque de noms de lieux du Québec id"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:46:00.000Z-Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Québec_id"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2100"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2100" title="Property:P2100">Banque de noms de lieux du Québec ID</a> <small>(P2100)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2100" title="Property talk:P2100">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">the unique identifier for geographical names in Quebec</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2221906" title="Q2221906">geographic location <small>(Q2221906)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>\d+</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q340" title="Q340">Montreal <small>(Q340)</small></a> → <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.toponymie.gouv.qc.ca/ct/ToposWeb/fiche.aspx?no_seq=42164">42164</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.toponymie.gouv.qc.ca/ct/ToposWeb/recherche.aspx?avancer=oui">http://www.toponymie.gouv.qc.ca/ct/ToposWeb/recherche.aspx?avancer=oui</a></td></tr><tr><th>Formatter URL</th><td>http://www.toponymie.gouv.qc.ca/ct/ToposWeb/fiche.aspx?no_seq=<b>$1</b></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Give the id of every place (event street) in <a href="/wiki/Q176" title="Q176">Quebec <small>(Q176)</small></a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert">Fralambert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fralambert" title="User talk:Fralambert"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:46:00.000Z-Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Québec_id" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:46:00.000Z-Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Québec_id"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-24T00:46:00.000Z","author":"Fralambert","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:46:00.000Z-Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Qu\u00e9bec_id","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fralambert-2015-08-24T00:46:00.000Z-Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Québec_id"></span> </p> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z-Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Québec_id"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim">Pasleim</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasleim" title="User talk:Pasleim"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z-Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Québec_id" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z-Banque_de_noms_de_lieux_du_Québec_id"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User:Jonathan Groß">Jonathan Groß</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User talk:Jonathan Groß"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z","author":"Jonathan Gro\u00df","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jonathan_Gro\u00df-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z-1","replies":["c-Fralambert-2015-09-24T00:32:00.000Z-Jonathan_Gro\u00df-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-08-25T16:03:00.000Z-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fralambert-2015-09-24T00:32:00.000Z-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim"><bdi>Pasleim</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User:Jonathan Groß"><bdi>Jonathan Groß</bdi></a>: done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P2100" title="Property:P2100">Banque de noms de lieux du Québec ID <small dir="ltr">(P2100)</small></a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fralambert" title="User:Fralambert">Fralambert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fralambert" title="User talk:Fralambert"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Fralambert-2015-09-24T00:32:00.000Z-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fralambert-2015-09-24T00:32:00.000Z-Jonathan_Groß-2015-09-17T21:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: International Nuclear Event Scale"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Visite_fortuitement_prolongée-2015-05-21T20:27:00.000Z-International_Nuclear_Event_Scale"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2127"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2127" title="Property:P2127">International Nuclear Event Scale</a> <small>(P2127)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2127" title="Property talk:P2127">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">INES level of this event</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q185657" title="Q185657">International Nuclear Event Scale</a> <small>(Q185657)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q19960719" title="Q19960719">nuclear incident <small>(Q19960719)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q1620824" title="Q1620824">nuclear accident <small>(Q1620824)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q21012976" title="Q21012976">level of INES scale <small>(Q21012976)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q840847" title="Q840847">Three Mile Island accident <small>(Q840847)</small></a> => <a href="/wiki/Q21013003" title="Q21013003">INES level 5 event <small>(Q21013003)</small></a> ; <a href="/wiki/Q486" title="Q486">Chernobyl disaster <small>(Q486)</small></a> => <a href="/wiki/Q21013001" title="Q21013001">INES level 7 event <small>(Q21013001)</small></a> ; <a href="/wiki/Q3149899" title="Q3149899">Roissy nuclear incident <small>(Q3149899)</small></a> => <a href="/wiki/Q21013005" title="Q21013005">INES level 3 event <small>(Q21013005)</small></a> ;</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>INES is an international reference for nuclear accident level measurement. <a href="/wiki/User:Visite_fortuitement_prolong%C3%A9e" title="User:Visite fortuitement prolongée">Visite fortuitement prolongée</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Visite_fortuitement_prolong%C3%A9e" title="User talk:Visite fortuitement prolongée"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Visite_fortuitement_prolongée-2015-05-21T20:27:00.000Z-International_Nuclear_Event_Scale" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 21 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener"><b><span style="color:#E0115F">Amaryllis</span><span style="color:#74C365">Gardener</span></b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:AmaryllisGardener" title="User talk:AmaryllisGardener"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z-International_Nuclear_Event_Scale" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 21 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z-International_Nuclear_Event_Scale"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="c-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z-International_Nuclear_Event_Scale"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-2015-05-21T22:52:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Thryduulf" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (talk: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf" title="User talk:Thryduulf">local</a> | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:Thryduulf" class="extiw" title="w:user talk:Thryduulf">en.wp</a> | <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/user_talk:Thryduulf" class="extiw" title="wikt:user talk:Thryduulf">en.wikt</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Thryduulf-2015-05-21T22:52:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 21 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thryduulf-2015-05-21T22:52:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-05-24T10:03:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 24 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2015-05-24T10:03:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-05-24T10:03:00.000Z","author":"Jura1","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jura1-2015-05-24T10:03:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2015-05-24T10:03:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-05-31T19:08:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"></span>I suggest changing the data-type to "item" and creating an item for each of the seven (?) possible values. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-05-31T19:08:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 31 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-05-31T19:08:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-05-31T19:08:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-05-31T19:08:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Thryduulf-2015-06-02T15:36:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-05-31T19:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-05-31T19:08:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-2015-06-02T15:36:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-05-31T19:08:00.000Z"></span>Reading the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Nuclear_Event_Scale" class="extiw" title="w:International Nuclear Event Scale">en.wp article</a>, there are 8 (or possibly 9) values. The scale runs from 0-7 (least to most significant) and there is also an "out of scale" level that sits below 0 for events of "no safety relevance". As this seems to be used for events at or near nuclear facilities that do not involve anything radioactive I'm not sure we'd need an item for it. As the example events used by en.wp do not include any specific articles for events at levels 0 or 1, the need for an "out of scale" item seems limited. Although thinking about it, as one of the events at "Out of scale" was a "tornado sighting within the protected area of the nuclear power plant.", it is possible that a notable tornado event could have an "out of scale" impact on a nuclear facility. <a href="/wiki/User:Thryduulf" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (talk: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf" title="User talk:Thryduulf">local</a> | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:Thryduulf" class="extiw" title="w:user talk:Thryduulf">en.wp</a> | <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/user_talk:Thryduulf" class="extiw" title="wikt:user talk:Thryduulf">en.wikt</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Thryduulf-2015-06-02T15:36:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-05-31T19:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -- <a href="/wiki/User:NavinoEvans" title="User:NavinoEvans">NavinoEvans</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NavinoEvans" title="User talk:NavinoEvans"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-NavinoEvans-2015-06-13T11:35:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 13 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NavinoEvans-2015-06-13T11:35:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-06-18T17:37:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 18 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-06-18T17:37:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-18T17:37:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-06-18T17:37:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-06-18T17:37:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"></span>Item-datatype would indeed be better. @<a href="/wiki/User:Visite_fortuitement_prolong%C3%A9e" title="User:Visite fortuitement prolongée"><bdi>Visite fortuitement prolongée</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:AmaryllisGardener" title="User:AmaryllisGardener"><bdi>AmaryllisGardener</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Thryduulf" title="User:Thryduulf"><bdi>Thryduulf</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:ComputerHotline" title="User:ComputerHotline"><bdi>ComputerHotline</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:NavinoEvans" title="User:NavinoEvans"><bdi>NavinoEvans</bdi></a>: ok to change? --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 7 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NavinoEvans-2015-09-07T16:05:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z"></span>Definite yes from me, using items would be much better. <a href="/wiki/User:NavinoEvans" title="User:NavinoEvans">NavinoEvans</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NavinoEvans" title="User talk:NavinoEvans"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-NavinoEvans-2015-09-07T16:05:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 7 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NavinoEvans-2015-09-07T16:05:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Visite_fortuitement_prolongée-2015-09-07T20:48:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 7 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Visite_fortuitement_prolongée-2015-09-07T20:48:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-07T20:48:00.000Z","author":"Visite fortuitement prolong\u00e9e","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Visite_fortuitement_prolong\u00e9e-2015-09-07T20:48:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Visite_fortuitement_prolongée-2015-09-07T20:48:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z"></span>Yes. Need to decide whether to have an "Out of scale" event though. <a href="/wiki/User:Thryduulf" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (talk: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf" title="User talk:Thryduulf">local</a> | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:Thryduulf" class="extiw" title="w:user talk:Thryduulf">en.wp</a> | <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/user_talk:Thryduulf" class="extiw" title="wikt:user talk:Thryduulf">en.wikt</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:59, 9 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z","author":"Thryduulf","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jura1-2015-09-26T07:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-07T12:20:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2015-09-26T07:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z"></span>You could use "novalue" for that, but you are probably better served with a dedicated item. In any case, I don't think that needs to be decided before creation. I updated the proposal to enable creation. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-09-26T07:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2015-09-26T07:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-26T07:48:00.000Z","author":"Jura1","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jura1-2015-09-26T07:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2015-09-26T07:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2015-09-09T13:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T12:05:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T12:05:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 1 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T12:05:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-01T12:05:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T12:05:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T12:05:00.000Z-AmaryllisGardener-2015-05-21T20:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Flash_point" data-mw-thread-id="h-Flash_point-2013-07-08T12:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Flash_point-2013-07-08T12:12:00.000Z"></span><span id="Flash_point"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Flash point</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Flash_point-2013-07-08T12:12:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Flash point"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-07-08T12:12:00.000Z-Flash_point"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2128"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2128" title="Property:P2128">flash point</a> <small>(P2128)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2128" title="Property talk:P2128">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>lowest temperature at which it can vaporize to form an ignitable mixture in air. Add qualifier for measurement method: open cup or closed cup. Not equal to fire point.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity (units = Temperature)-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>fr:infobox chimie, en:chembox</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemistry, physic</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>number</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2013-07-08T12:12:00.000Z-Flash_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 8 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-07-08T12:12:00.000Z-Flash_point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z-Flash_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:45, 19 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z-Flash_point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:King_jakob_c_2" class="mw-redirect" title="User:King jakob c 2">Jakob</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:King_jakob_c_2" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:King jakob c 2">Scream about</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/King_jakob_c_2" title="Special:Contributions/King jakob c 2">the things I've broken</a>)</small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-King_jakob_c_2-2013-08-15T15:26:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-King_jakob_c_2-2013-08-15T15:26:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-15T15:26:00.000Z","author":"King jakob c 2","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-King_jakob_c_2-2013-08-15T15:26:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Jakob"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-King_jakob_c_2-2013-08-15T15:26:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. datatype changed <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 12 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-12T21:42:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-12T21:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> necessary for chemical safety data. <a href="/wiki/User:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User:James Hare (NIOSH)">James Hare (NIOSH)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User talk:James Hare (NIOSH)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T15:32:00.000Z","author":"James Hare (NIOSH)","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-07-19T08:45:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2015-10-01T21:04:00.000Z-Flash_point"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok"><bdi>Danrok</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21"><bdi>Kolja21</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pamputt" title="User:Pamputt"><bdi>Pamputt</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: Is there a property creator for the creation of this property ? Thank you <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-10-01T21:04:00.000Z-Flash_point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 1 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-10-01T21:04:00.000Z-Flash_point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Sorry, The back-log is huge :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T21:37:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-10-01T21:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 1 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T21:37:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-10-01T21:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2015-09-02T13:18:00.000Z-focal_length"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2151"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2151" title="Property:P2151">focal length</a> <small>(P2151)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2151" title="Property talk:P2151">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">focal length of lens, generally in millimeters</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>number with units (when available)-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>lenses, cameras with built-in lenses, etc.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>items for specific formats</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1" title="Q1">Universe <small>(Q1)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q2" title="Q2">Earth <small>(Q2)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>infobox, Freebase: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.freebase.com/digicams/digital_camera/wide_focal_length">https://www.freebase.com/digicams/digital_camera/wide_focal_length</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.freebase.com/digicams/digital_camera/tele_focal_length">https://www.freebase.com/digicams/digital_camera/tele_focal_length</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> to import data from FB. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jura1-2015-09-02T13:18:00.000Z-focal_length" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:18, 2 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2015-09-02T13:18:00.000Z-focal_length"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. Should be for large telescopes as well (most of these don't have lenses - they have parabolic mirrors. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>)</li></ul> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:01:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-02T13:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:01:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-02T13:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-04T13:01:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:01:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-02T13:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:01:00.000Z-Jura1-2015-09-02T13:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="antiparticle" data-mw-thread-id="h-antiparticle-2015-09-24T21:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-antiparticle-2015-09-24T21:32:00.000Z"></span><span id="antiparticle"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">antiparticle</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-antiparticle-2015-09-24T21:32:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: antiparticle"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swpb-2015-09-24T21:32:00.000Z-antiparticle"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2152"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2152" title="Property:P2152">antiparticle</a> <small>(P2152)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2152" title="Property talk:P2152">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">elementary particle with the same mass and opposite charges</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>items which are subclass of <a href="/wiki/Q43116" title="Q43116">elementary particle <small>(Q43116)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2225" title="Q2225">electron <small>(Q2225)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q3229" title="Q3229">positron <small>(Q3229)</small></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>More specific than the vague <a href="/wiki/Property:P461" title="Property:P461">opposite of <small dir="ltr">(P461)</small></a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Swpb" title="User:Swpb">Swpb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swpb" title="User talk:Swpb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Swpb-2015-09-24T21:32:00.000Z-antiparticle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Swpb-2015-09-24T21:32:00.000Z-antiparticle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T21:32:00.000Z","author":"Swpb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Swpb-2015-09-24T21:32:00.000Z-antiparticle","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Swpb-2015-09-24T21:32:00.000Z-antiparticle"></span> </p> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z-antiparticle"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> clearly defined. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z-antiparticle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 28 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z-antiparticle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z-antiparticle","replies":["c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:14:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:12:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z-antiparticle"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:14:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Why not. <a href="/wiki/User:Pamputt" title="User:Pamputt">Pamputt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pamputt" title="User talk:Pamputt"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:14:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 3 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:14:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-03T09:14:00.000Z","author":"Pamputt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:14:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:14:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:12:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:12:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:12:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-04T13:12:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:12:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:12:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-28T09:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Astronomical_distance" data-mw-thread-id="h-Astronomical_distance-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Astronomical_distance-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Astronomical distance</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Astronomical_distance-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Astronomical distance"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z-Astronomical_distance"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">The distance to a (nearby) astronomical object.</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#quantity" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Quantity</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>astronomical objects with a negligible <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cosmological_redshift" class="extiw" title="w:cosmological redshift">cosmological redshift</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2225" title="Q2225">electron <small>(Q2225)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q3229" title="Q3229">positron <small>(Q3229)</small></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:MER-C" title="User:MER-C">MER-C</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MER-C" title="User talk:MER-C">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z-Astronomical_distance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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id="c-Paperoastro-2013-02-08T14:58:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Paperoastro-2013-02-08T14:58:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-02-08T14:58:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T14:58:00.000Z","author":"Paperoastro","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Paperoastro-2013-02-08T14:58:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-02-08T14:58:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitb_style="color:-2013-02-09T01:19:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MichaelSchoenitb_style%3D%22color:&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitb style="color: (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MichaelSchoenitb_style="color:-2013-02-09T01:19:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:19, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitb_style="color:-2013-02-09T01:19:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"></span></s><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitb_style="color:-2013-02-09T01:19:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T01:19:00.000Z","author":"MichaelSchoenitb style=\"color:","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MichaelSchoenitb_style=\"color:-2013-02-09T01:19:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Njardarlogar-2013-02-21T11:56:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - but it should it not be "distance from the Earth"? <a href="/wiki/User:Njardarlogar" title="User:Njardarlogar">Njardarlogar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Njardarlogar" title="User talk:Njardarlogar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Njardarlogar-2013-02-21T11:56:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:56, 21 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> it is necessary for infobox. <a href="/wiki/User:Sunpriat" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sunpriat">Sunpriat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunpriat" title="User talk:Sunpriat"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sunpriat-2014-10-06T19:24:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 6 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sunpriat-2014-10-06T19:24:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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Any distance property can take astronomical units. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z-Astronomical_distance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 13 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z-Astronomical_distance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z-Astronomical_distance","replies":["c-Succu-2015-09-25T21:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:18:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z-Astronomical_distance"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Succu-2015-09-25T21:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z"></span>We have <a href="/wiki/Q1811" title="Q1811">astronomical unit <small>(Q1811)</small></a> as a unit. That should be enough. But have we a generic <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?search=&search=P%3Adistance+&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Seite">distance property</a>? --<a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Succu-2015-09-25T21:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 25 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Succu-2015-09-25T21:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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process in my opinion. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:18:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:18, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:18:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-13T10:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z-IDLH"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2129"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2129" title="Property:P2129">immediately dangerous to life or health</a> <small>(P2129)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2129" title="Property talk:P2129">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">the level of chemical exposure that can cause death or permanent adverse health effects</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q682341" title="Q682341">Immediately dangerous to life or health</a> <small>(Q682341)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Chembox_Hazards" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Chembox Hazards">en:Template:Chembox Hazards</a> parameter <code>IDLH</code></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemicals</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>numbers with a unit of measurement such as <a href="/wiki/Q834105" title="Q834105">gram per litre <small>(Q834105)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q421758" title="Q421758">methyl bromide <small>(Q421758)</small></a> → 0.0009725 <a href="/wiki/Q834105" title="Q834105">gram per litre <small>(Q834105)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/default.html">Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards</a>, published by <a href="/wiki/Q60346" title="Q60346">National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health <small>(Q60346)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Part of future mass importation of the Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards into Wikidata.</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>This is part of a mass importation of data from the Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards into Wikidata. <a href="/wiki/User:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User:James Hare (NIOSH)">James Hare (NIOSH)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User talk:James Hare (NIOSH)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z-IDLH" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z-IDLH"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z","author":"James Hare (NIOSH)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z-IDLH","replies":["c-Snipre-2015-09-27T23:17:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T21:46:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z-IDLH"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2015-09-27T23:17:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z"></span>Already proposed and accepted. The proposal is pending. We just have to ask a property creator to do it. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-09-27T23:17:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-09-27T23:17:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-27T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Snipre","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Snipre-2015-09-27T23:17:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2015-09-27T23:17:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T21:46:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Property created now. Will archive the 2 proposals together. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T21:46:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:46, 1 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T21:46:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-01T21:46:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T21:46:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-01T21:46:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T23:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="molecular_mass" data-mw-thread-id="h-molecular_mass-2015-09-24T16:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-molecular_mass-2015-09-24T16:59:00.000Z"></span><span id="molecular_mass"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">molecular mass</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-molecular_mass-2015-09-24T16:59:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: molecular mass"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T16:59:00.000Z-molecular_mass"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">the mass of a molecule measured relative to the mass of carbon-12</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q182854" title="Q182854">molecular mass</a> <small>(Q182854)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>types of items that may bear this property</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>any integer or floating point number</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q421758" title="Q421758">methyl bromide <small>(Q421758)</small></a> has a molecular mass of 95.0</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Many chemical references, including the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/default.html">Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards</a> published by <a href="/wiki/Q60346" title="Q60346">National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health <small>(Q60346)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Future mass importation of the Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards into Wikidata</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>This property is part of a planned mass importation of data from the Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards. Note that molecular mass is a dimensionless value measured relative to the molecular mass of Carbon-12 which is exactly 12. <a href="/wiki/User:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User:James Hare (NIOSH)">James Hare (NIOSH)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User talk:James Hare (NIOSH)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T16:59:00.000Z-molecular_mass" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T16:59:00.000Z-molecular_mass"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T16:59:00.000Z","author":"James Hare (NIOSH)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T16:59:00.000Z-molecular_mass","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T16:59:00.000Z-molecular_mass"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z-molecular_mass"></span>Saehrimnir</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo">Leyo</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Dcirovic" title="User:Dcirovic">Dcirovic</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Walkerma" title="User:Walkerma">Walkerma</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Egon_Willighagen" title="User:Egon Willighagen">Egon Willighagen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:DeSl" title="User:DeSl">Denise Slenter</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Emily_Temple-Wood_(NIOSH)" title="User:Emily Temple-Wood (NIOSH)">Emily Temple-Wood</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Pablo_Busatto" title="User:Pablo Busatto">Pablo Busatto (<i>Almondega</i>)</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ChemConnector" title="User:ChemConnector">Antony Williams (EPA)</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Wostr" title="User:Wostr">Wostr</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Devon_Fyson" title="User:Devon Fyson">Devon Fyson</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">User:DePiep</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:DavRosen" title="User:DavRosen">User:DavRosen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Benjaminabel" title="User:Benjaminabel">Benjaminabel</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:99of9" title="User:99of9">99of9</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Kubaello" title="User:Kubaello">Kubaello</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Fractaler" title="User:Fractaler">Fractaler</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain" title="User:Netha Hussain">Netha</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Hugo" title="User:Hugo">Hugo</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:S9a8m" title="User:S9a8m">Samuel Clark</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Tris_T7" title="User:Tris T7">Tris T7</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Leiem" title="User:Leiem">Leiem</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Christianhauck" title="User:Christianhauck">Christianhauck</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:SCIdude" title="User:SCIdude">SCIdude</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Binter" title="User:Binter">Binter</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Photocyte" title="User:Photocyte">Photocyte</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Rgiessmann" title="User:Rgiessmann">Robert Giessmann</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Wiljes" title="User:Wiljes">Cord Wiljes</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:AdrianoRutz" title="User:AdrianoRutz">Adriano Rutz</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Bjonnh" title="User:Bjonnh">Jonathan Bisson</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:GrndStt" title="User:GrndStt">GrndStt</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Ameisenigel" title="User:Ameisenigel">Ameisenigel</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Cthoyt" title="User:Cthoyt">Charles Tapley Hoyt</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ChemHobby" title="User:ChemHobby">ChemHobby</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Petermr" title="User:Petermr">Peter Murray-Rust</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Erfurth" title="User:Erfurth">Erfurth</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:TiagoLubiana" title="User:TiagoLubiana">TiagoLubiana</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:NadirSH" title="User:NadirSH">NadirSH</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Matthias_M." title="User:Matthias M.">Matthias M.</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:S8321414" title="User:S8321414">S8321414</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_F._Patel-Schneider" title="User:Peter F. Patel-Schneider">Peter F. Patel-Schneider</a><br/></div><p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Chemistry/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Chemistry/Participants">participants of WikiProject Chemistry</a> </p><dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Did you consider using this: <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q421758&type=revision&diff=253905345&oldid=253711773">diff</a> ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z-molecular_mass" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:55, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/BA_candidate.svg/15px-BA_candidate.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/BA_candidate.svg/23px-BA_candidate.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/BA_candidate.svg/30px-BA_candidate.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="190" data-file-height="200"/></span></span> <b>Weak oppose</b> I prefer to use the property mass. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 28 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z","author":"Snipre","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-10-01T13:33:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-10-01T13:33:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z"></span>If the mass property can be used to represent molecular mass in AMUs (which appears to be the case), then that will work. <a href="/wiki/User:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User:James Hare (NIOSH)">James Hare (NIOSH)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User talk:James Hare (NIOSH)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-10-01T13:33:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 1 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-10-01T13:33:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-01T13:33:00.000Z","author":"James Hare (NIOSH)","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-10-01T13:33:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-10-01T13:33:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-09-28T11:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:21:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/15px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/23px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/30px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Not done</b> Using generic mass property seems to work. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:21:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:21, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:21:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-04T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:21:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:21:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-27T13:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)" data-mw-thread-id="h-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)-2015-09-20T15:08:00.000Z"><span id="PubChem_Substance_ID_.28SID.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)-2015-09-20T15:08:00.000Z"></span><span id="PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">PubChem Substance ID (SID)</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)-2015-09-20T15:08:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: PubChem Substance ID (SID)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-09-20T15:08:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2153"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2153" title="Property:P2153">PubChem Substance ID (SID)</a> <small>(P2153)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2153" title="Property talk:P2153">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Substance identifier in the PubChem database.</span></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q79529" title="Q79529">chemical substance <small>(Q79529)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>number</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q191326" title="Q191326">zeolite Y <small>(Q191326)</small></a> → 135307179</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q278487" title="Q278487">PubChem <small>(Q278487)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Formatter URL</th><td>https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/substance/<b>$1</b></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>The <a href="/wiki/Property:P662" title="Property:P662">PubChem CID <small dir="ltr">(P662)</small></a> already exists and I would like to see the ability to tag substances in Wikidata with their PubChem SID. An example where it can be used is <a href="/wiki/Q191326" title="Q191326">zeolite Y <small>(Q191326)</small></a> which is found in PubChem as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/substance/135307179">SID 135307179</a>. Nanomaterials are other examples, and I may wish to add a few of those too. <a href="/wiki/User:Egon_Willighagen" title="User:Egon Willighagen">Egon Willighagen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Egon_Willighagen" title="User talk:Egon Willighagen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-09-20T15:08:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-09-20T15:08:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T15:08:00.000Z","author":"Egon Willighagen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-09-20T15:08:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-09-20T15:08:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)"></span> </p> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)","replies":["c-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z","c-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z","c-Emitraka-2015-09-30T14:23:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:24:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z-PubChem_Substance_ID_(SID)"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Isn't <a href="/wiki/Property:P662" title="Property:P662">PubChem CID <small dir="ltr">(P662)</small></a> sufficient? SID is hardly ever linked to in Wikipedias AFAIK. --<a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo">Leyo</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Leyo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo"><bdi>leyo</bdi></a>: The difference between compound and substance is that the former represents a defined unique entity of covalently bound atoms, whereas the latter is a defined mixture of 2 or more chemical compounds in a certain ratio. They exclude each other which makes it hard to link to Pubchem from WD chemicals substance items, as there is no property ID for them. <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebotic" title="User talk:Sebotic"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:57, 30 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z","author":"Sebotic","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-09-30T09:05:00.000Z-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z-Leyo-2015-09-24T22:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-30T09:05:00.000Z-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic"><bdi>Sebotic</bdi></a>: : please note that some definitions, a compound is a substance. For example in the definition of the UIPAC for chemical elements, an elements is defined as a type of substances (see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://goldbook.iupac.org/C01022.html">http://goldbook.iupac.org/C01022.html</a> ). So we must sort out the mess created one way or another. The ways I see : either involves making enwiki change its definition a little bit (difficult, I tried), or define clearly each items and link all articles to the right one. I plan to do this but I feel a little alone at this time for such a task atm. :) <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-09-30T09:05:00.000Z-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 30 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-30T09:05:00.000Z-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebotic" title="User talk:Sebotic"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:57, 30 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-30T05:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka">lv_ra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emitraka" title="User talk:Emitraka"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Emitraka-2015-09-30T14:23:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 30 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emitraka-2015-09-30T14:23:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:24:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:24:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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energy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Binding_energy"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2154"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2154" title="Property:P2154">binding energy</a> <small>(P2154)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2154" title="Property talk:P2154">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">energy required to disassemble a whole system into separate parts</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q420754" title="Q420754">binding energy</a> <small>(Q420754)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#quantity" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Quantity</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"binding_energy" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_isotope" class="extiw" title="en:Modèle:Infobox isotope">en:Modèle:Infobox isotope</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>nuclear isotope</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1058364" title="Q1058364">carbon-12 <small>(Q1058364)</small></a> → 92161.753± 0.014 keV</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Property needed for isotope infobox. <a href="/wiki/User:Pamputt" title="User:Pamputt">Pamputt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pamputt" title="User talk:Pamputt"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Binding_energy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 3 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Binding_energy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z","author":"Pamputt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Binding_energy","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Binding_energy"></span> </p> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:32:00.000Z-Binding_energy"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Fasttracking: Straightforward and included in many inforboxes. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:32:00.000Z-Binding_energy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:32:00.000Z-Binding_energy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Solid solution series with"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z-Solid_solution_series_with"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2155"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2155" title="Property:P2155">solid solution series with</a> <small>(P2155)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2155" title="Property talk:P2155">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">the mineral forms a continous or discontinous "solid solution series" with another mineral</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q787619" title="Q787619">solid solution</a> <small>(Q787619)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>put Wikipedia infobox parameters here, if existing; ex: "population" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:infobox_settlement" class="extiw" title="en:template:infobox settlement">en:template:infobox settlement</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Q templates</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>valid minerals</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>chrysoberyl-mariinskite series; <a href="/wiki/Q422179" title="Q422179">chrysoberyl</a> forms a series with <a href="/wiki/Q15962248" title="Q15962248">mariinskite</a> and vice-e-versa; hedenbergite-petedunnite; <a href="/wiki/Q422984" title="Q422984">hedenbergite</a> forms a series with <a href="/wiki/Q1813913" title="Q1813913">petedunnite</a> and vice-e-versa</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>(sample: 7 digit number can be validated with edit filter <a href="/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/17" title="Special:AbuseFilter/17">Special:AbuseFilter/17</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>mindat.org (<a href="/wiki/Q15221937" title="Q15221937">Q15221937</a>) - <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.mindat.org/search.php?name=series">[2]</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>no</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>(Add your motivation for this property here.) <a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z-Solid_solution_series_with" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 4 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z-Solid_solution_series_with"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:13:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:13, 7 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:13:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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I have only knowledge in chemistry and engineering stuff. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-01-07T12:40:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 7 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-01-07T12:40:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Looks useful. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:13:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:13, 7 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:13:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-04T18:14:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-04T18:14:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:59:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:59, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T13:59:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T06:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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section: Pseudo crystal habit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z-Pseudo_crystal_habit"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2156"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2156" title="Property:P2156">pseudo crystal habit</a> <small>(P2156)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2156" title="Property talk:P2156">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">the chemical compound may seem to have a higher symmetry</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>put Wikipedia infobox parameters here, if existing; ex: "population" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:infobox_settlement" class="extiw" title="en:template:infobox settlement">en:template:infobox settlement</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Q templates</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>pseudomonoclinic, pseudoorthorhombic, pseudotetragonal, pseudotrigonal, pseudohexagonal, pseudocubic</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q419201" title="Q419201">Leucite</a> and CdCl<sub>2</sub> have a orthorhombic crystal symmetry, but they show a pseudo cubic crystal habit</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>(sample: 7 digit number can be validated with edit filter <a href="/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/17" title="Special:AbuseFilter/17">Special:AbuseFilter/17</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>mineralienatlas.de, mindat.org, Athena</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>no</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>(@<a href="/wiki/User:Sbisolo" title="User:Sbisolo"><bdi>Sbisolo</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>:, @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:John_Mortimore&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:John Mortimore (page does not exist)"><bdi>John Mortimore</bdi></a>:; it could be a subproperty of habitus; it is important to know that a mineral appears to have a higher symmetry although it is not perfect) <a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z-Pseudo_crystal_habit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:23, 4 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z-Pseudo_crystal_habit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","author":"Chris.urs-o","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z-Pseudo_crystal_habit","replies":["c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:16:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-09T12:49:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","c-Chris.urs-o-2015-03-10T05:57:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","c-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","c-Filceolaire-2015-08-04T18:14:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:10:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z-Pseudo_crystal_habit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:16:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I am wondering if it is also possible to query this. A mineral has a crystal structure that links to a symmetry. The habit of a mineral also has a symmetry. If the symmetries don't match, then the habit is called e.g. pseudocubic. But maybe this explicit approach would be good too. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:16:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:16, 7 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:16:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-07T08:16:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:16:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-01-07T08:16:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-09T12:49:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o"><bdi>Chris.urs-o</bdi></a>: Please show how you example would work; i.e. what value would be entered? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-09T12:49:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-09T12:49:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-09T12:49:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-09T12:49:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-03-09T12:49:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-03-10T05:57:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"></span>Ok, let's try. The crystal system is a physical characteristic determined in the laboratory. The habit is a visual appearance of the species sample. I suppose that the pseudocrystal habit would be a subproperty of habit.</li> <li>Halit (NaCl) has a cubic symmetry, with following cell parameters: a =5.6404(1) Å =b =c and α=90° =β =γ</li> <li>Analcime (Na<sub>2</sub>(Al<sub>2</sub>Si<sub>4</sub>O<sub>12</sub>) · 2H<sub>2</sub>O) has a triclinic symmetry, but it always looks pseudocubic. Cell parameters: a =13.723 to 13.733 Å =b =c</li> <li>Boracite (Mg<sub>3</sub>(B<sub>7</sub>O<sub>13</sub>)Cl) has a orthorhombic symmetry, but often a pseudocubic morphology. Cell parameters: a = 8.577(6) Å, b = 8.553(8) Å, c = 12.09(1) Å</li> <li>Perovskite (CaTiO<sub>3</sub>) has a orthorhombic symmetry, but often a pseudocubic morphology. Cell parameters: a = 5.447(1) Å, b = 7.654(1) Å, c = 5.388(1) Å</li> <li>Bernalite (Fe(OH)<sub>3</sub> · nH<sub>2</sub>O (n = 0.0 to 0.25)) has a orthorhombic symmetry. Morphology: flattened pyramidal crystals, pseudo-octahedral to pseudo-cubic. Cell parameters: a = 7.544 Å, b = 7.56 Å, c = 7.558 Å</li> <li>Pertlikite (K<sub>2</sub>(Fe<sup>2+</sup>,Mg)<sub>2</sub>Mg<sub>4</sub>Fe<sub>2</sub><sup>3+</sup>Al(SO<sub>4</sub>)<sub>12</sub> · 18H<sub>2</sub>O) has a tetragonal symmetry, but often a pseudocubic morphology. Cell parameters: a = 19.2080 Å, c = 27.2158 Å</li></ul></dd> <dd>Regards --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Chris.urs-o-2015-03-10T05:57:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:57, 10 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-03-10T05:57:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-10T05:57:00.000Z","author":"Chris.urs-o","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chris.urs-o-2015-03-10T05:57:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-03-10T05:57:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"></span>Chris.urs-o</a> have you discussed with collaboration with mindat.org? Their web site says their info is copyright but it is sponsored by an academic institution and says its info is provided by thousands of volunteers so it may be willing to let us have their info. Either way if any of our properties are meant to duplicate theirs (do they publish an ontology?) we should note this. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 2 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-03T02:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z","c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-04T07:41:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-03T02:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z"></span>We are not duplicating, identifiers are not a problem yet. It is easier to cite MinDat. Nickel-Strunz 9 ed (updated 2009) is based on a very old PDF file of 2009. It can not be copied & pasted, but Nickel-Strunz 10 ed (MinDat) is very similar. Strunz 8 ed (MinDat/ Athena/ Lapis) is based on Strunz 8 ed (printed). I did not know, that it is a modified version, I assumed it is the same. <a href="/wiki/Q65551" title="Q65551">Karl H. Strunz</a> (1910–2006) allowed the use of Strunz 8 ed (printed) on Athena. Nickel-Strunz 9 ed (updated 2009) is a courtesy of <a href="/wiki/Q1356348" title="Q1356348">Ernest H. Nickel</a> (1925–2009) & <a href="/wiki/Q16917772" title="Q16917772">Monte C. Nichols</a> (1938–2014), Minerals Data, Inc.. Nickel-Strunz 10 ed (webmineral.com) is an update of Nickel-Strunz 9 ed (updated 2009), it is a courtesy of James A. Ferraiolo. Nickel-Strunz 10 ed (MinDat) is a minor modification of Nickel-Strunz 10 ed (webmineral.com), it excludes discredited minerals for example. English Wikipedia uses this identifier. IMA-CNMNC Newsletter (<a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Mineralogy/IMA_number_references#CNMNC/_CNMMN_site" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Mineralogy/IMA number references">Wikidata:WikiProject Mineralogy/IMA number references#CNMNC/ CNMMN site</a>) publishes mineral group, type locality, crystal system and space group of a new mineral many times, original literatur is available on: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://rruff.info/rruff_1.0/reference_search.php">[3]</a>. The main task right now is finding valid minerals on Wikidata but "lost in space", and listing and administrating them on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Mineralogy/Mineral_list#Sortable_lists_of_Nickel-Strunz_identifiers" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Mineralogy/Mineral list">Wikidata:WikiProject Mineralogy/Mineral list#Sortable lists of Nickel-Strunz identifiers</a>. I'm using MinDat to administrate property <a href="/wiki/Property:P138" title="Property:P138">named after</a>, but there is webmineral.com and a PDF file available, as well. I was thinking of editing very notable minerals, but I do not have editing capacity. Regards --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-03T02:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 3 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-03T02:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-03T02:37:00.000Z","author":"Chris.urs-o","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-03T02:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-03T02:37:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-04T07:41:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z"></span>Notes: <ul><li>Strunz 8 ed (printed) > Strunz 8 ed (Athena)/Strunz 8 ed (Lapis) > Strunz 8 ed (MinDat)</li> <li>Nickel-Strunz 9 ed (printed) > Nickel-Strunz 9 ed (updated 2009) > Nickel-Strunz 10 ed (James A. Ferraiolo) > Nickel-Strunz 10 ed (MinDat)</li></ul></dd> <dd>I have not these books at home: <ul><li>Strunz, Hugo; Nickel, Ernest H. (2001). Strunz Mineralogical Tables (9 ed.). Stuttgart: Schweizerbart. p. 870. <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/9783510651887" class="internal mw-magiclink-isbn">ISBN 978-3-510-65188-7</a></li> <li>Strunz, Hugo (1982). Mineralogische Tabellen (in German) (8 ed.). Leipzig: Akademische Verlagsgesellschaft Geest. u. Portig. p. 621</li> <li>Weiß, Stefan (2008). Das Große Lapis-Mineralienverzeichnis</li></ul></dd> <dd>Regards --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-04T07:41:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:41, 4 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2015-08-04T07:41:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T18:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-04T18:14:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-04T18:14:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> I think this is something that needs to tried out. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:10:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:10:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2015-01-04T07:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z-Kernel_version"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">put English description for property here, e.g. same as in the infobox documentation</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q14579" title="Q14579">Linux kernel</a> <small>(Q14579)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Linux and BSD distributions</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Valid version numbers</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7593" class="mw-redirect" title="Q7593">Debian <small>(Q7593)</small></a>: <a href="/wiki/Property:P348" title="Property:P348">software version identifier <small dir="ltr">(P348)</small></a> => 7 with qualifier "kernel version" => 3.2.41</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Distribution mailing lists</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z-Kernel_version" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 1 December 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z-Kernel_version"><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/23px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/></span></span> <i><b><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Informatics/Participants">WikiProject Informatics</a> has more than 50 participants and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350" class="extiw" title="phab:T200350">couldn't be pinged</a>. Please post on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Informatics" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Informatics">the WikiProject's talk page</a> instead.</b></i> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z-Kernel_version-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 1 December 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z-Kernel_version-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z-Kernel_version-1","replies":["c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T16:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z","c-DSGalaktos-2015-03-28T12:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z","c-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:11:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z-Kernel_version-1"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T16:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"></span>This seems like an overly specific property. Wouldn't it be better to create a more general property that lists the packages supplied by a distribution, with the version number as a qualifier? (This would also imply making an item for each major version of a distribution. Also, some distributions ship multiple kernel versions over their lifetime, which I think would be difficult to express if kernel version already is a qualifier.) —<i><a href="/wiki/User:Ruud_Koot" title="User:Ruud Koot">Ruud</a></i> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T16:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T16:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-12-19T16:51:00.000Z","author":"Ruud Koot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T16:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ruud"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T16:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DSGalaktos-2015-03-28T12:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> @<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>:I would rather see the use of the <a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a> property with a qualifier "version", or directly a "linux 3.2.41" item, subclass of "linux" or something, with a "version" statement. <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> You can’t put qualifiers on qualifiers, so in the above example, this would require a separate item for Debian 7. —<a href="/wiki/User:DSGalaktos" class="mw-redirect" title="User:DSGalaktos">DSGalaktos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DSGalaktos" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:DSGalaktos"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-DSGalaktos-2015-03-28T12:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 28 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DSGalaktos-2015-03-28T12:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/23px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/></span></span> <i><b><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Informatics/Participants">WikiProject Informatics</a> has more than 50 participants and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350" class="extiw" title="phab:T200350">couldn't be pinged</a>. Please post on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Informatics" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Informatics">the WikiProject's talk page</a> instead.</b></i> : I think it would be better to use items for software versions, Python2.6 is an edition of python, for example, and that would make us aligned with <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Books" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Books">Wikidata:WikiProject Books</a>. <span class="mw-code" style="text-align:right; display: inline-block; padding: 0.1em;"><a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>)</sup> </span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-06-06T12:11:00.000Z-DSGalaktos-2015-03-28T12:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 6 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-06-06T12:11:00.000Z-DSGalaktos-2015-03-28T12:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-06T12:11:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-06-06T12:11:00.000Z-DSGalaktos-2015-03-28T12:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-06-06T12:11:00.000Z-DSGalaktos-2015-03-28T12:32:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"></span>Items for software versions would mean we create a new item for notepad++ 6.8.7.2 and InternetExplorer 11.0.9600.17801? --<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim">Pasleim</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasleim" title="User talk:Pasleim"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:44, 6 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z","author":"Pasleim","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim"><bdi>Pasleim</bdi></a>: I guess that when there is a lot of releases it's way overkill to go up to minor patch versions. But I guess not all of them are published anyway, even in that case there would not be 17801 items for 11.0.9600 :) If we would not maintain a history of versions with <i>version</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:version" title="Special:Search/Property:version">Search</a></small>, nobody would create all the items anyway, except if this is done automatically. So I don't think we really have to worry about that. What we would gain is that when several distros includes Linux 4.2.1, we just have to say <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">RHEL4.6</span> ⟩</span> <i><i>has part</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:has_part" title="Special:Search/Property:has part">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">Linux 4.2.1</span> ⟩</span></div> and not <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">RHEL4.6</span> ⟩</span> <i><i>has part</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:has_part" title="Special:Search/Property:has part">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">Linux</span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><i>version</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:version" title="Special:Search/Property:version">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">4.2.1</span> ⟩</span></span></div> and <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">Ubuntu Zeta Zebra</span> ⟩</span> <i><i>has part</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:has_part" title="Special:Search/Property:has part">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">Linux</span> ⟩</span><br/><span style="margin-left:5em;"><i><i>version</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:version" title="Special:Search/Property:version">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">4.2.1</span> ⟩</span></span></div>, that we will be able to put statements about Linux 4.2.1, for example <i>added feature</i>, and regularity of the model, so less special cases in query or in infobox templates. <span class="mw-code" style="text-align:right; display: inline-block; padding: 0.1em;"><a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>)</sup> </span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:33, 7 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z-Pasleim-2015-06-06T22:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pasleim" title="User:Pasleim"><bdi>Pasleim</bdi></a>: Notability for software releases is a really difficult topic. If we make items for versions will also mean that we run 2 approaches parallel. In any case we can only gather data about programs that have some kind of written release information. But we also need to ignore the bugfix releases if we want to keep the whole system manageable. Wikidata is also really bad for inputting long lists of data into a single property, which makes version history editing difficult. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 7 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T16:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-06-07T11:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T16:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: Why would that be difficult ? We can make it very simple if we want. Like I said, it's not because we create items that the history on software that we will store be longer than if we do not. It's a separate question. It's because (hypothetically) we chose the <i>create items</i> solution that this will modify the number of statements per page. <span class="mw-code" style="text-align:right; display: inline-block; padding: 0.1em;"><a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>)</sup> </span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T16:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 7 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-06-07T16:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-06-07T15:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Not enough support. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:11:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:11:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-12-01T21:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z-Lithography"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">lithography in nanometers</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q5300" title="Q5300">central processing unit <small>(Q5300)</small></a> / <a href="/wiki/Q1815901" title="Q1815901">electronic circuit <small>(Q1815901)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>22, 32, 45, 65, 90, 130, 180, 250.</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q15229424" title="Q15229424">Xeon 3040 <small>(Q15229424)</small></a> : 65 nm</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Intel website, for Intel processors</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Robots can gather info on the Intel website and fill the property with it.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:MisterSanderson" title="User:MisterSanderson">MisterSanderson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSanderson" title="User talk:MisterSanderson">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>I want to add information to the CPU items, but there aren't enough properties to that. <a href="/wiki/User:MisterSanderson" title="User:MisterSanderson">MisterSanderson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSanderson" title="User talk:MisterSanderson">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z-Lithography" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:48, 25 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z-Lithography"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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<a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:44, 25 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z"></span>Why "number with dimension" instead of simply "number"?--<a href="/wiki/User:MisterSanderson" title="User:MisterSanderson">MisterSanderson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSanderson" title="User talk:MisterSanderson">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:48, 26 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z","author":"MisterSanderson","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-25T22:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z"></span>Because this is a measurement of length. Remember that while current processors are measured in nanometers past processors were measured in micrometers and future processors will be measured in picometers. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 30 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:29:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-26T00:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:29:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z"></span>Given the diameter of a silicon atom (over 0.2 nm), I think it will be fairly unlikely that we will ever need the measure lithographic processes in picometers ;) —<i><a href="/wiki/User:Ruud_Koot" title="User:Ruud Koot">Ruud</a></i> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:29:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:29:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-12-19T17:29:00.000Z","author":"Ruud Koot","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:29:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ruud"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:29:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-11-30T07:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> the dimension would be the physical unit "meter". I think everybody uses simply number because the other thing doesn't seem to work with the template. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 27 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z"></span>What about AMD?--<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kopiersperre" title="User talk:Kopiersperre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:38, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z","author":"Kopiersperre","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-11-27T16:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre"><bdi>Kopiersperre</bdi></a>: I am not an expert where else this measurement is used, but I think the domain "semiconductors" would probably sum it up? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 21 November 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-11T13:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: I must point out, that a 22 nm processor <b>does not</b> have any element, which is 22 nm long. (See <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.golem.de/news/air-gaps-intel-laesst-bei-broadwell-die-luft-raus-1411-110715-2.html">Keine 14-Nanometer-Struktur in Broadwell</a>) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kopiersperre" title="User talk:Kopiersperre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z","author":"Kopiersperre","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-21T22:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre"><bdi>Kopiersperre</bdi></a>: That certainly makes things more complicated. In that case we should rely on independent measurements and not the marketing words. Maybe even require a qualifier that states how the measurement was made (e.g. with an ion probe). --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 23 November 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:00:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z","c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2014-11-23T14:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:00:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z"></span>I think what Kopiersperre means is that the term "22 nm" is the name of a particular lithographic process (sometimes it's qualified by the name of the semiconductor foundry), and should not be directly interpreted as a physical quantity (nor should we try to make it into one by relying on "independent measurements"). We can be pragmatic and make it into a number with dimension as the names of lithographic processes have always followed the convention of being a number followed by "micrometer" or "nanometer". —<i><a href="/wiki/User:Ruud_Koot" title="User:Ruud Koot">Ruud</a></i> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:00:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:00:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-12-19T17:00:00.000Z","author":"Ruud Koot","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:00:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ruud"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:00:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z"></span>Actually, Wikipedia already has articles on the various processes and Wikidata thus has items on them: <a href="/wiki/Q1059061" title="Q1059061">22 nm lithography process <small>(Q1059061)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q1135912" title="Q1135912">1.5 µm lithography process <small>(Q1135912)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q7003854" title="Q7003854">Category:International Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors lithography nodes <small>(Q7003854)</small></a>, ... We should probably link them to those instead. —<i><a href="/wiki/User:Ruud_Koot" title="User:Ruud Koot">Ruud</a></i> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z","author":"Ruud Koot","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tobias1984-2014-12-19T20:35:00.000Z-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ruud"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2014-11-23T15:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2014-12-19T20:35:00.000Z-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ruud_Koot" title="User:Ruud Koot"><bdi>Ruud Koot</bdi></a>: - It might be a good idea to make this an item-datatype instead. That way we can avoid the situation described by <a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">User:Kopiersperre</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2014-12-19T20:35:00.000Z-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2014-12-19T20:35:00.000Z-Ruud_Koot-2014-12-19T17:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> with datatype 'item'. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T15:47:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 2 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-02T15:47:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:17:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:17:00.000Z-MisterSanderson-2013-11-25T00:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Listed in PackageIndex"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-06-12T21:35:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Many programs available for Linux have public listings of their packages. Connecting to these indexes would allow to check up on version numbers using bots.</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#url" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">URL</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>software</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Valid package indexes or repositories</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q8041" title="Q8041">Inkscape <small>(Q8041)</small></a> → "<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/inkscape">https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/inkscape</a>" (+Qualifier: Fedora), "<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape">https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape</a>" (+Qualifier Ubuntu)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>As usual this should improve Wikidatas interlinking between relevant software pages. Bots can use these pages to check if a newer version of a program exists. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-06-12T21:35:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-06-12T21:35:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-12T21:35:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-06-12T21:35:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-06-12T21:35:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span> </p> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-07-09T10:48:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd> <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> @<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: I think it's a good idea, I would however prefer a different model, for example a more generic property. Either <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of <small dir="ltr">(P361)</small></a> qualified with a <i>package index reference</i> qualifier, or something like a <i>packaged in/by</i> property instead of <i>has part</i>. What do you think ? <span class="mw-code" style="text-align:right; display: inline-block; padding: 0.1em;"><a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>)</sup> </span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-07-09T10:48:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 9 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-07-09T10:48:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-07-09T10:48:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-07-09T10:48:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-07-09T10:48:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span></dd></dl> <p><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/15px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/23px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/></span></span> <i><b><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Informatics/Participants">WikiProject Informatics</a> has more than 50 participants and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350" class="extiw" title="phab:T200350">couldn't be pinged</a>. Please post on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Informatics" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Informatics">the WikiProject's talk page</a> instead.</b></i></small> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>@<a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m"><bdi>TomT0m</bdi></a>: - I think using <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of <small dir="ltr">(P361)</small></a> in this case would dilute the meaning of the property too much. Maybe something like "is listed in" would be better for this case. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 9 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-08-03T08:36:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-03T08:36:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: I don't think so, a software is a part of a distribution. As a consequence it has a package and a package url in the distribution website. This is the semantics of part of, nothing more, nothing less ... <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-08-03T08:36:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 3 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-08-03T08:36:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-03T08:36:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-08-03T08:36:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-08-03T08:36:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-07-09T21:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: I suggest separate properties for every distro. For ArchLinux a qualifier wouldn't be enough, because it has normal packages (e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/inkscape/">https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/inkscape/</a>) and the <a href="/wiki/Q17521339" title="Q17521339">Arch User Repository <small>(Q17521339)</small></a> (e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/atom-editor-git/).--">https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/atom-editor-git/).--</a><a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kopiersperre" title="User talk:Kopiersperre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z","author":"Kopiersperre","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex","replies":["c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre"><bdi>Kopiersperre</bdi></a>: I don't think this is a good idea, this is not a flexible solution. I would suggest, if the <i>part of</i> solution is not accepted, to use <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><b><var><span style="background:transparent;color:DarkGray;" title="">⟨ <span dir="ltr" lang="en">subject</span> ⟩</span></var></b> <i><i>packaged in</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:packaged_in" title="Special:Search/Property:packaged in">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">the distro</span> ⟩</span></div> with qualifiers such as <i>package url</i> or <i>catalog url</i>. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:38, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-09-14T12:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span>I would <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> a <i>packaged in</i> with a distribution range and a software domain, with the qualifiers <i>package url</i> and <i>cataog url</i>. (<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/15px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/23px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_error.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/></span></span> <i><b><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Informatics/Participants">WikiProject Informatics</a> has more than 50 participants and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350" class="extiw" title="phab:T200350">couldn't be pinged</a>. Please post on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Informatics" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Informatics">the WikiProject's talk page</a> instead.</b></i> because this must be settled at some point). <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:38, 14 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z","author":"TomT0m","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex","replies":["c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:19:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z-Listed_in_PackageIndex"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:19:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/15px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/23px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/30px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Not done</b> Not enough support. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:19:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:19:00.000Z-TomT0m-2015-09-14T12:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Cell line ontology ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sebotic-2015-10-02T09:49:00.000Z-Cell_line_ontology_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2158"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2158" title="Property:P2158">Cell Line Ontology ID</a> <small>(P2158)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2158" title="Property talk:P2158">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Identifier for an ontology which describes anatomic origin and nature of eukaryotic cell lines.</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q21039006" title="Q21039006">Cell line Ontology</a> <small>(Q21039006)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>biology and medicine</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>CLO_0000000 - CLO_9999999</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1632589" title="Q1632589">Jurkat <small>(Q1632589)</small></a> → CLO_0007043</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>'CLO_' as prefix followed by seven digits</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.clo-ontology.org/">http://www.clo-ontology.org/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Formatter URL</th><td>http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/<b>$1</b></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>ProteinBoxBot will add these IDs</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Cell lines are an essential tool for biology and medicine. CLO is currently the only ontology which systematically orders and issues IDs to cell lines. Having the CLO IDs in Wikidata would help representing cell lines in WD and to link them with other ontologies like UBERON and MeSH. <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebotic" title="User talk:Sebotic"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sebotic-2015-10-02T09:49:00.000Z-Cell_line_ontology_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:49, 2 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sebotic-2015-10-02T09:49:00.000Z-Cell_line_ontology_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-02T10:17:00.000Z-Cell_line_ontology_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 2 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-02T10:17:00.000Z-Cell_line_ontology_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Su" title="User:Andrew Su">Andrew Su</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Su" title="User talk:Andrew Su"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Andrew_Su-2015-10-02T15:19:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-02T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 2 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Could be a very useful. Has value for <i>in vitro</i> drug studies, or antibody production. <a href="/wiki/User:Gtsulab" title="User:Gtsulab">Gtsulab</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gtsulab" title="User talk:Gtsulab"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Gtsulab-2015-10-02T17:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-02T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 2 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gtsulab-2015-10-02T17:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-02T10:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:I9606" title="User:I9606">I9606</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:I9606" title="User talk:I9606"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-I9606-2015-10-02T18:15:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-02T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 2 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-I9606-2015-10-02T18:15:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-02T10:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:23:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-02T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:23:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-02T10:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-2015-07-01T15:41:00.000Z-solves"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2159"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2159" title="Property:P2159">computes solution to</a> <small>(P2159)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2159" title="Property talk:P2159">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">the subject is an algorithm or a method to solve a type of problem</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q730920" title="Q730920">problem solving</a> <small>(Q730920)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q8366" title="Q8366">algorithm <small>(Q8366)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q8366&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q8366&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span>, maybe other heuristic or non mathematical problem solving methods</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3435924" title="Q3435924">computational problem <small>(Q3435924)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q3435924&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q3435924&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span>, others ?</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2030088" title="Q2030088">DPLL algorithm <small>(Q2030088)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q875276" title="Q875276">boolean satisfiability problem <small>(Q875276)</small></a>, <div style="border: 1px solid #C9C9C9;background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;display: inline-block;"><span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;"><a href="/wiki/Q8548" title="Q8548">Dijkstra's algorithm <small>(Q8548)</small></a><span class="external_link-reasonator"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q8548&lang=en" title="View with Reasonator"><img alt="View with Reasonator" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/12px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/18px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg/24px-Wikidata-Reasonator_small_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="500"/></a></span></span><span class="external_link-SQID"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://sqid.toolforge.org/#/view?id=Q8548&lang=en" title="View with SQID"><img alt="View with SQID" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/25px-SQID_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="7" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/38px-SQID_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/SQID_logo.svg/50px-SQID_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="179" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span></span> ⟩</span> <i><i>solves</i> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Search/Property:solves" title="Special:Search/Property:solves">Search</a></small></i> <span style="background:None;">⟨ <span style="font-family:fixed;">1058754</span> ⟩</span></div>, ...</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>A defining property of algorithms. <span class="mw-code" style="text-align:right; display: inline-block; padding: 0.1em;"><a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">talk</a>)</sup> </span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-TomT0m-2015-07-01T15:41:00.000Z-solves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 1 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-2015-07-01T15:41:00.000Z-solves"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" 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<i><b><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Informatics/Participants">WikiProject Informatics</a> has more than 50 participants and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350" class="extiw" title="phab:T200350">couldn't be pinged</a>. Please post on <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Informatics" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject Informatics">the WikiProject's talk page</a> instead.</b></i> (fixed). <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-07-10T16:41:00.000Z-solves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 10 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-07-10T16:41:00.000Z-solves"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-07-10T16:41:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-07-10T16:41:00.000Z-solves","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-07-10T16:41:00.000Z-solves"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Roll-Morton-2015-09-28T13:06:00.000Z-solves"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I am not very familiar with wikidata, so this shouldn't be considered as an important support. Nevertheless, I am very familiar with algorithms (you can check my edits on the wikipedia in French), and I think this relation makes a lot of sense.--<a href="/wiki/User:Roll-Morton" title="User:Roll-Morton">Roll-Morton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Roll-Morton" title="User talk:Roll-Morton"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Roll-Morton-2015-09-28T13:06:00.000Z-solves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Roll-Morton-2015-09-28T13:06:00.000Z-solves"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-28T13:06:00.000Z","author":"Roll-Morton","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Roll-Morton-2015-09-28T13:06:00.000Z-solves","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Roll-Morton-2015-09-28T13:06:00.000Z-solves"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Silverfish-2015-09-30T21:47:00.000Z-solves"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> This seems like a useful property. The infoxbox <a href="/wiki/Q5910871" title="Q5910871">Template:Infobox algorithm <small>(Q5910871)</small></a> in various languages has the parameter class which seems to correspond to this property although sometimes that seems to be just the class of algorithm (as in search algorithm), rather than the problem solved. <a href="/wiki/User:Silverfish" title="User:Silverfish">Silverfish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Silverfish" title="User talk:Silverfish"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Silverfish-2015-09-30T21:47:00.000Z-solves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Silverfish-2015-09-30T21:47:00.000Z-solves"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:28:00.000Z-Silverfish-2015-09-30T21:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:28:00.000Z-Silverfish-2015-09-30T21:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Mass_excess"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2160"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2160" title="Property:P2160">mass excess</a> <small>(P2160)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2160" title="Property talk:P2160">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">difference between its actual mass and its mass number in atomic mass units.</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1571163" title="Q1571163">mass excess</a> <small>(Q1571163)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#quantity" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Quantity</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"excess_energy" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_isotope" class="extiw" title="en:Modèle:Infobox isotope">en:Modèle:Infobox isotope</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>nuclear isotope</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q102296" title="Q102296">deuterium <small>(Q102296)</small></a> → 13135.720 ± 0.001</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Property needed for isotope infobox. <a href="/wiki/User:Pamputt" title="User:Pamputt">Pamputt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pamputt" title="User talk:Pamputt"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Mass_excess" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 3 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Mass_excess"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z","author":"Pamputt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Mass_excess","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pamputt-2015-10-03T09:31:00.000Z-Mass_excess"></span> </p> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:37:00.000Z-Mass_excess"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Fasttracking. Included in many infoboxes and well defined. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:37:00.000Z-Mass_excess" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:37:00.000Z-Mass_excess"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-04T14:37:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:37:00.000Z-Mass_excess","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-04T14:37:00.000Z-Mass_excess"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="YerelNet_village_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-YerelNet_village_ID-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-YerelNet_village_ID-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"></span><span id="YerelNet_village_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">YerelNet village ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-YerelNet_village_ID-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: YerelNet village ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z-YerelNet_village_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2123"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2123" title="Property:P2123">YerelNet village ID</a> <small>(P2123)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2123" title="Property talk:P2123">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>Now ID is in references links. After transferring all IDs to WD, I will add a YerelNet link in <a href="https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/w:T%C3%BCrkiye_k%C3%B6y_bilgi_kutusu" class="extiw" title="tr:w:Türkiye köy bilgi kutusu">tr:w:Türkiye köy bilgi kutusu</a>(Turkey village infobox) with arbitrary access.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>6 digit number bigger than 200000</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>external reference, Wikipedia list article, etc.</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>A bot created all village article in TRwiki from YerelNet. Now I will use it for updating and adding new infos.</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>YerelNet is a government(Republic of Turkey Ministry of Development) funded portal contains informations about all 18.335 village. We used YerelNet for creating village articles in 2007. It is our main source of information about villages. Now there is YerelNet links in References/External links section contains IDs but some of them deleted by users. I wanna store all IDs in WD so we can keep it secure. <a href="/wiki/User:Mavrikant" title="User:Mavrikant">Mavrikant</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mavrikant" title="User talk:Mavrikant"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z-YerelNet_village_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 18 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z-YerelNet_village_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Elmacenderesi" title="User:Elmacenderesi">Elmacenderesi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elmacenderesi" title="User talk:Elmacenderesi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Elmacenderesi-2015-09-24T14:21:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elmacenderesi-2015-09-24T14:21:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T14:21:00.000Z","author":"Elmacenderesi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Elmacenderesi-2015-09-24T14:21:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elmacenderesi-2015-09-24T14:21:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-McAang-2015-09-26T09:27:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Please confirm urgently. <a href="/wiki/User:McAang" title="User:McAang">McAang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:McAang" title="User talk:McAang"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-McAang-2015-09-26T09:27:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-McAang-2015-09-26T09:27:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:HakanIST" title="User:HakanIST">HakanIST</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HakanIST" title="User talk:HakanIST"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-HakanIST-2015-09-26T20:05:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HakanIST-2015-09-26T20:05:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b><a href="/wiki/User:Zaits%C3%A9v" title="User:Zaitsév">Zaitsév</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zaits%C3%A9v" title="User talk:Zaitsév"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Zaitsév-2015-09-26T20:16:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zaitsév-2015-09-26T20:16:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:U%C4%9Furkent&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Uğurkent (page does not exist)">Uğurkent</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:U%C4%9Furkent" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Uğurkent"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Uğurkent-2015-09-27T15:21:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 27 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uğurkent-2015-09-27T15:21:00.000Z-Mavrikant-2015-09-18T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="new" title="User:Uğurkent (page does not exist)"><bdi>Uğurkent</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P2123" title="Property:P2123">YerelNet village ID <small dir="ltr">(P2123)</small></a>. Datatype is "sting", as is standard. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-28T16:13:00.000Z-YerelNet_village_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 28 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-28T16:13:00.000Z-YerelNet_village_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-28T16:13:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-28T16:13:00.000Z-YerelNet_village_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-28T16:13:00.000Z-YerelNet_village_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="CrunchBase_person_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-CrunchBase_person_ID-2015-08-17T10:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CrunchBase_person_ID-2015-08-17T10:03:00.000Z"></span><span id="CrunchBase_person_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">CrunchBase person ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-CrunchBase_person_ID-2015-08-17T10:03:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: CrunchBase person ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-17T10:03:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2087"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2087" title="Property:P2087">Crunchbase person ID</a> <small>(P2087)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2087" title="Property talk:P2087">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Domain</th><td>people</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Valid CrunchBase URL slugs</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Wikipedia external links</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Useful and widely-used database. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-17T10:03:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 17 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-17T10:03:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-17T10:03:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-17T10:03:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-17T10:03:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID"></span>What about organizations? Would it make sense to format the values like this?: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q4208540" title="Q4208540">Matt Cohler <small>(Q4208540)</small></a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.crunchbase.com/person/matt-cohler">person/matt-cohler</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q355" title="Q355">Facebook <small>(Q355)</small></a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/facebook">organization/facebook</a></li></ul> <p>--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Floscher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Floscher (page does not exist)">Floscher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Floscher" title="User talk:Floscher"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z","author":"Floscher","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z","c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> but rename to <b>Crunchbase person ID</b> then we can make a <b>Crunchbase organisation ID</b> too. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:25:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:25:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z"></span>Agreed; see below. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:25:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 26 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:25:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-26T19:25:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:25:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:25:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev">Vladimir Alexiev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User talk:Vladimir Alexiev"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z","author":"Vladimir Alexiev","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-21T11:43:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:37:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Floscher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Floscher (page does not exist)"><bdi>Floscher</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev"><bdi>Vladimir Alexiev</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P2087" title="Property:P2087">Crunchbase person ID <small dir="ltr">(P2087)</small></a> <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:37:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:37:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T14:37:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:37:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:37:00.000Z-CrunchBase_person_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="CrunchBase_organisation_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-CrunchBase_organisation_ID-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CrunchBase_organisation_ID-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span id="CrunchBase_organisation_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">CrunchBase organisation ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-CrunchBase_organisation_ID-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: CrunchBase organisation ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z-CrunchBase_organisation_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2088"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2088" title="Property:P2088">Crunchbase organization ID</a> <small>(P2088)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2088" title="Property talk:P2088">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Domain</th><td>organisations</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Valid CrunchBase URL slugs</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Wikipedia external links</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Useful and widely-used database. Per above. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z-CrunchBase_organisation_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 26 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z-CrunchBase_organisation_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-26T22:15:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 26 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-26T22:15:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-26T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-08-26T22:15:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-26T22:15:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev">Vladimir Alexiev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User talk:Vladimir Alexiev"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z","author":"Vladimir Alexiev","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:26:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-08-26T19:30:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:47:00.000Z-CrunchBase_organisation_ID"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev"><bdi>Vladimir Alexiev</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P2088" title="Property:P2088">Crunchbase organization ID <small dir="ltr">(P2088)</small></a> <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:47:00.000Z-CrunchBase_organisation_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:47:00.000Z-CrunchBase_organisation_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T14:47:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:47:00.000Z-CrunchBase_organisation_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T14:47:00.000Z-CrunchBase_organisation_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID-2015-08-28T02:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID-2015-08-28T02:01:00.000Z"></span><span id="Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Library of Congress JukeBox ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID-2015-08-28T02:01:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Library of Congress JukeBox ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)-2015-08-28T02:01:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2089"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2089" title="Property:P2089">Library of Congress JukeBox ID (former scheme)</a> <small>(P2089)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2089" title="Property talk:P2089">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Library of Congress JukeBox ID</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>people</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>numerical</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>A bot would have to be written to match the entries</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>The Library of Congress JukeBox ID contains a list of available recordings by early singers. The list has over 10,000 recordings and is expanding. Sadly the Jukebox ID is not currently linked to the LCCN. <a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)" title="User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )">Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)" title="User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)-2015-08-28T02:01:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)-2015-08-28T02:01:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-28T02:01:00.000Z","author":"Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)-2015-08-28T02:01:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)-2015-08-28T02:01:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:02:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)" title="User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )"><bdi>Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P2089" title="Property:P2089">Library of Congress JukeBox ID (former scheme) <small dir="ltr">(P2089)</small></a>. DAta type is string, as is standard for identifiers. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:02:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:02:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T15:02:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:02:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:02:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_JukeBox_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Power_of_10_athlete_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Power_of_10_athlete_ID-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Power_of_10_athlete_ID-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span id="Power_of_10_athlete_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Power of 10 athlete ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Power_of_10_athlete_ID-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Power of 10 athlete ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2090"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2090" title="Property:P2090">Power of 10 athlete ID</a> <small>(P2090)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2090" title="Property talk:P2090">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Domain</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q11513337" title="Q11513337">athletics competitor <small>(Q11513337)</small></a> from <a href="/wiki/Q145" title="Q145">United Kingdom <small>(Q145)</small></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/Q20892680" title="Q20892680">Power of 10 <small>(Q20892680)</small></a> is the reference database for athletes from the United Kingdom. It is used by <a href="/wiki/Q20892684" title="Q20892684">Template:Power of 10 <small>(Q20892684)</small></a> and its profiles for specific athletes are already called <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepowerof10.info%2Fathletes%2Fprofile.aspx%3Fathleteid%3D&title=Special%3ALinkSearch">280 times</a> on the English Wikipedia, <a class="external text" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spezial:Weblinksuche&limit=500&offset=0&target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepowerof10.info%2Fathletes%2Fprofile.aspx%3Fathleteid%3D">201 times</a> on the German Wikipedia, <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial:Recherche_de_lien&target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepowerof10.info%2Fathletes%2Fprofile.aspx%3Fathleteid%3D">22 times</a> on the French Wikipedia, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Thierry_Caro" title="User:Thierry Caro">Thierry Caro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thierry_Caro" title="User talk:Thierry Caro"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 30 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z","author":"Thierry Caro","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID","replies":["c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:43:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:43:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:43:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 6 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:43:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-06T21:43:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:43:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:43:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-30T23:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:12:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Thierry_Caro" title="User:Thierry Caro"><bdi>Thierry Caro</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire"><bdi>Filceolaire</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P2090" title="Property:P2090">Power of 10 athlete ID <small dir="ltr">(P2090)</small></a> <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:12:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:12:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T15:12:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:12:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:12:00.000Z-Power_of_10_athlete_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="FISA_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-FISA_ID-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FISA_ID-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"></span><span id="FISA_ID"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">FISA ID</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-FISA_ID-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: FISA ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z-FISA_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2091"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2091" title="Property:P2091">World Rowing ID</a> <small>(P2091)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2091" title="Property talk:P2091">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>used in local templates of <a href="/wiki/Q14334032" title="Q14334032">Template:World Rowing <small>(Q14334032)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>people</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>FISA uses numerical values (1 to 5 digits at the moment, might be 6 at some point in the future); <i>string</i> datatype because it’s an identifier rather than a quantifier</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>^[\d]{1,6}$ — unique value (each ID must not be used for more than one item) — single statement with exceptions (typically there is only one ID per person, but there are some rare exceptions from this rule)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>IDs are going to be imported from local templates (<a href="/wiki/Q14334032" title="Q14334032">Template:World Rowing <small>(Q14334032)</small></a>) and the database itself</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>For the sports of rowing, FISA’s database at www.worldrowing.com/athletes/ is one of the most important sources for biographies (personal data and competition results). It currently contains ~45.000 entries of rowers that competed at the Summer Olympics, World Rowing Championships, Continental Championships, World Rowing Cup, and some other competitions that are not important here. </p><p>Until now, the rower ID is saved and used in local templates (<a href="/wiki/Q14334032" title="Q14334032">Template:World Rowing <small>(Q14334032)</small></a>), but not on Wikidata. Wikidata has items for more than 4000 rowers, mostly competitors of the Olympics, World Champs or European Champs, and most of them could easily be equipped with their FISA ID in this property. I already have a large list that I could import to Wikidata using <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php">Quick Statements</a>, once this property is created. Similar properties are listed in <a href="/wiki/Template:Sports_properties" title="Template:Sports properties">Template:Sports properties</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:MisterSynergy" title="User:MisterSynergy">MisterSynergy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSynergy" title="User talk:MisterSynergy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z-FISA_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 4 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z-FISA_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z","author":"MisterSynergy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z-FISA_ID","replies":["c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z","c-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z","c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:45:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z","c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z-FISA_ID"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"></span>The URL format should be <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.worldrowing.com/athletes/athlete/$1">http://www.worldrowing.com/athletes/athlete/$1</a>, and then <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Thierry_Caro" title="User:Thierry Caro">Thierry Caro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thierry_Caro" title="User talk:Thierry Caro"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 5 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z","author":"Thierry Caro","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your support. For which reason do you want to change the URL format? —<a href="/wiki/User:MisterSynergy" title="User:MisterSynergy">MisterSynergy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSynergy" title="User talk:MisterSynergy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 5 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z","author":"MisterSynergy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-05T14:58:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z"></span>It is the landpage. <a href="/wiki/User:Thierry_Caro" title="User:Thierry Caro">Thierry Caro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thierry_Caro" title="User talk:Thierry Caro"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:11, 6 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z","author":"Thierry Caro","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T08:29:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-05T15:48:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T08:29:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z"></span>Ok, I understand. The proposed URL contains much more useful information about competition results, thus I tought it would be better to use it rather than the landig page. However, I wouldn’t mind changing it (and did so in the proposal box above). —<a href="/wiki/User:MisterSynergy" title="User:MisterSynergy">MisterSynergy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSynergy" title="User talk:MisterSynergy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T08:29:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:29, 6 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T08:29:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-06T08:29:00.000Z","author":"MisterSynergy","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T08:29:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T08:29:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-06T08:11:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"></span>Being an identifier, I'd suggest a string datatype. That's the only thing I'd change, generally you have my <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Sannita" title="User:Sannita">Sannita</a> - <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sannita" title="User talk:Sannita">not just another it.wiki sysop</a></i></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 6 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z","author":"Sannita","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T10:46:00.000Z-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T10:46:00.000Z-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for advice and support. I’ve changed the proposed datatype to “string”. —<a href="/wiki/User:MisterSynergy" title="User:MisterSynergy">MisterSynergy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSynergy" title="User talk:MisterSynergy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T10:46:00.000Z-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 6 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-06T10:46:00.000Z-Sannita-2015-09-06T10:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:45:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 6 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:45:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 7 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z","author":"MisterSynergy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2015-09-06T21:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Question</b>: Would it be necessary to link a “subject item” (not yet proposed)? If so, which would be the advantages? Can we use <a href="/wiki/Q684885" title="Q684885">World Rowing <small>(Q684885)</small></a> or shall I create a new item “Worldrowing database” (or similar)? —<a href="/wiki/User:MisterSynergy" title="User:MisterSynergy">MisterSynergy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSynergy" title="User talk:MisterSynergy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 13:42, 7 September 2015 (UTC) <small><s>I tried to add this and some other things to the proposal, but that failed. See <a class="external autonumber" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control&curid=7650764&diff=248386552&oldid=248384793">[4]</a>, —<a href="/wiki/User:MisterSynergy" title="User:MisterSynergy">MisterSynergy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSynergy" title="User talk:MisterSynergy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 14:18, 7 September 2015 (UTC)</s> Works now. —<a href="/wiki/User:MisterSynergy" title="User:MisterSynergy">MisterSynergy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSynergy" title="User talk:MisterSynergy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z","author":"MisterSynergy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-04T19:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-17T18:55:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-17T18:55:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z"></span>Okay, no answer for quite some time… There is <a href="/wiki/Q684885" title="Q684885">World Rowing <small>(Q684885)</small></a> given as “subject item” at the moment, and this seems to be okay if compared to other similar properties. What else do we have to do for property creation? —<a href="/wiki/User:MisterSynergy" title="User:MisterSynergy">MisterSynergy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisterSynergy" title="User talk:MisterSynergy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-17T18:55:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 17 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisterSynergy-2015-09-17T18:55:00.000Z-MisterSynergy-2015-09-07T13:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P2091" title="Property:P2091">World Rowing ID <small dir="ltr">(P2091)</small></a> <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:30:00.000Z-FISA_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:30:00.000Z-FISA_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-20T15:30:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:30:00.000Z-FISA_ID","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-09-20T15:30:00.000Z-FISA_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Guthrie_code" data-mw-thread-id="h-Guthrie_code-2015-07-14T22:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Guthrie_code-2015-07-14T22:58:00.000Z"></span><span id="Guthrie_code"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Guthrie code</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Guthrie_code-2015-07-14T22:58:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: Guthrie code"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pamputt-2015-07-14T22:58:00.000Z-Guthrie_code"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2161"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2161" title="Property:P2161">Guthrie code</a> <small>(P2161)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2161" title="Property talk:P2161">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Guthrie code of a Bantu language</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q5621787" title="Q5621787">Guthrie classification of Bantu languages</a> <small>(Q5621787)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>« guthrie » in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_language" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox language">en:Template:Infobox language</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>language</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>[A-S][0-1000][A-Z]</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q7022547" title="Q7022547">Ngoni <small>(Q7022547)</small></a> → N12</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://goto.glocalnet.net/mahopapers/nuglonline.pdf">http://goto.glocalnet.net/mahopapers/nuglonline.pdf</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Guthrie code is a parameter of language infobox and is rather common in Bantu languages work. <a href="/wiki/User:Pamputt" title="User:Pamputt">Pamputt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pamputt" title="User talk:Pamputt"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pamputt-2015-07-14T22:58:00.000Z-Guthrie_code" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 14 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pamputt-2015-07-14T22:58:00.000Z-Guthrie_code"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-07-14T22:58:00.000Z","author":"Pamputt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pamputt-2015-07-14T22:58:00.000Z-Guthrie_code","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pamputt-2015-07-14T22:58:00.000Z-Guthrie_code"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:32:00.000Z-Guthrie_code"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:32:00.000Z-Guthrie_code" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:32:00.000Z-Guthrie_code"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: Deutsche Ultramarathon-Vereinigung ID"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-03T12:01:00.000Z-Deutsche_Ultramarathon-Vereinigung_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2162"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2162" title="Property:P2162">Deutsche Ultramarathon-Vereinigung ID</a> <small>(P2162)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2162" title="Property talk:P2162">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Identifier for individual runners inside <a href="/wiki/Q1204310" title="Q1204310">Deutsche Ultramarathon-Vereinigung <small>(Q1204310)</small></a>'s database.</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1204310" title="Q1204310">Deutsche Ultramarathon-Vereinigung</a> <small>(Q1204310)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>people</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q20745593" title="Q20745593">Kathy D'Onofrio-Wood <small>(Q20745593)</small></a> → <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://statistik.d-u-v.org/getresultperson.php?runner=27314">27314</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://statistik.d-u-v.org">http://statistik.d-u-v.org</a></td></tr><tr><th>Formatter URL</th><td>http://statistik.d-u-v.org/getresultperson.php?runner=<b>$1</b></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/Q1204310" title="Q1204310">Deutsche Ultramarathon-Vereinigung <small>(Q1204310)</small></a>'s database is the best one about <a href="/wiki/Q26303" title="Q26303">ultramarathon <small>(Q26303)</small></a>. As I write this message, it includes 693433 runners that each have their own ID there and most of the time don't have a <a href="/wiki/Property:P1146" title="Property:P1146">World Athletics athlete ID <small dir="ltr">(P1146)</small></a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Thierry_Caro" title="User:Thierry Caro">Thierry Caro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thierry_Caro" title="User talk:Thierry Caro"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-03T12:01:00.000Z-Deutsche_Ultramarathon-Vereinigung_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-03T12:01:00.000Z-Deutsche_Ultramarathon-Vereinigung_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Très bonne idée, ça pourrait nous permettre de faire également un modèle de lien externe généré uniquement par Wikidata comme <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:ProCyclingStats" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:ProCyclingStats">ProCyclingStats</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick">Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2015-08-03T12:44:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-03T12:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 3 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2015-08-03T12:44:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-03T12:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-03T12:44:00.000Z","author":"J\u00e9r\u00e9my-G\u00fcnther-Heinz J\u00e4hnick","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-J\u00e9r\u00e9my-G\u00fcnther-Heinz_J\u00e4hnick-2015-08-03T12:44:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-03T12:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2015-08-03T12:44:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-03T12:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ol> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-23T19:58:00.000Z-Deutsche_Ultramarathon-Vereinigung_ID"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Please, this is <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?target=statistik.d-u-v.org&title=Sp%C3%A9cial%3ARecherche_de_lien">already quite used on frwiki</a>, where we have <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:DUV" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:DUV">fr:Modèle:DUV</a> to generate such links. <a href="/wiki/User:Thierry_Caro" title="User:Thierry Caro">Thierry Caro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thierry_Caro" title="User talk:Thierry Caro"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-23T19:58:00.000Z-Deutsche_Ultramarathon-Vereinigung_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-08-23T19:58:00.000Z-Deutsche_Ultramarathon-Vereinigung_ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z-FAST-ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2163"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2163" title="Property:P2163">FAST ID</a> <small>(P2163)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2163" title="Property talk:P2163">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">authority control identifier in WorldCat's “FAST Linked Data” authority file</span></td></tr><tr><th>Represents</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3294867" title="Q3294867">Faceted Application of Subject Terminology</a> <small>(Q3294867)</small></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>people, corporations, events, topics, geographic entities, …</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>[1-9][0-9]*</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q13424289" title="Q13424289">Edward Snowden <small>(Q13424289)</small></a> → <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1916996">1916996</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q64" title="Q64">Berlin <small>(Q64)</small></a> → <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1204829">1204829</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q180" title="Q180">Wikimedia Foundation <small>(Q180)</small></a> → <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1623176">1623176</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q466" title="Q466">World Wide Web <small>(Q466)</small></a> → <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1181326">1181326</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q309048" title="Q309048">King Kong <small>(Q309048)</small></a> → <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1358961">1358961</a></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>e.g. VIAF adds FAST-IDs to their clusters</td></tr><tr><th>Formatter URL</th><td>http://id.worldcat.org/fast/<b>$1</b></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>I saw that this ID is present in VIAF clusters but not here in Wikidata. It could be used to differentiate between similar items. For importing statements, I guess the license (Open Data Commons Attribution) is not compatible. But I'd still find it useful to at least have another authority control ID to add to Wikidata items. </p><p>The FAST authority file is derived from the <a href="/wiki/Q1823134" title="Q1823134">Library of Congress Subject Headings <small>(Q1823134)</small></a>, so it should be possible to automatically add FAST-IDs to Wikidata-items which already have <a href="/wiki/Property:P244" title="Property:P244">Library of Congress authority ID <small dir="ltr">(P244)</small></a> set. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Floscher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Floscher (page does not exist)">Floscher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Floscher" title="User talk:Floscher"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z-FAST-ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 13 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z-FAST-ID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z","author":"Floscher","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z-FAST-ID","replies":["c-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z","c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:39:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z","c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:36:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z-FAST-ID"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"></span>This seems premature as the urls redirect to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://experimental.worldcat.org/fast/1204829/">http://experimental.worldcat.org/fast/1204829/</a> I suspect that if it is an "authority" that we wish for it to come out of an experimental phase. — <a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">billinghurst</a> <i><span style="font-size:90%;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Billinghurst" title="User talk:Billinghurst">sDrewth</a></span></i> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 17 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z","author":"Billinghurst","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Floscher-2015-08-17T11:51:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Floscher-2015-08-17T11:51:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z"></span>As far as I understand it, the linked data <b>viewer</b> is in experimental phase, not the complete authority file. The FAST authority file is developed since 1998 and when they published it as linked data last year, the authority file got this new interface (see <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.oclc.org/research/themes/data-science/fast.html">[5]</a> for details). That's probably the reason why it is hosted on <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://experimental.worldcat.org">http://experimental.worldcat.org</a> . --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Floscher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Floscher (page does not exist)">Floscher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Floscher" title="User talk:Floscher"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Floscher-2015-08-17T11:51:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 17 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Floscher-2015-08-17T11:51:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-17T11:51:00.000Z","author":"Floscher","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Floscher-2015-08-17T11:51:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Floscher-2015-08-17T11:51:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-08-17T01:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:39:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. Remember that the reason we have a formatter url and a reference string instead of just a url for each item is so that we can easily manage changes such as might happen if this gets moved to a different server. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Joe Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:39:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:39:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-21T17:39:00.000Z","author":"Filceolaire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:39:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe Filceolaire"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2015-08-21T17:39:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:36:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I thought this is derived from (different rendition of) LoC (LCSH+LCNAF). But that's not so, eg Edward Snowden is <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no2013111241.html">http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no2013111241.html</a>, which is a different id from FAST. --<a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev">Vladimir Alexiev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User talk:Vladimir Alexiev"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:36:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:36, 18 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:36:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-18T09:36:00.000Z","author":"Vladimir Alexiev","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:36:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2015-09-18T09:36:00.000Z-Floscher-2015-08-13T12:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="treats" data-mw-thread-id="h-treats-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-treats-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z"></span><span id="treats"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">treats</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-treats-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: treats"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z-treats"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2175"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2175" title="Property:P2175">medical condition treated</a> <small>(P2175)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2175" title="Property talk:P2175">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Links a pharmaceutical drug and the disease(s) it is used for treating.</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>Use (Therapeutic use) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_drug_mechanism" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox drug mechanism">en:Template:Infobox_drug_mechanism</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>pharmaceutical drugs, chemical compounds, proteins, nucleic acids</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Wikidata items</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3011604" title="Q3011604">dabrafenib <small>(Q3011604)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q18558032" title="Q18558032">skin melanoma <small>(Q18558032)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>National Drug File (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://rxnav.nlm.nih.gov">https://rxnav.nlm.nih.gov</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Will be added and maintained by <a href="/wiki/User:ProteinBoxBot/Drug_items" title="User:ProteinBoxBot/Drug items">User:ProteinBoxBot/Drug_items</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>The information of which drug can be used for treating a certain disease is not represented in Wikidata yet. This property shall be used to link a drug to the diseases it can be used for treating. <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebotic" title="User talk:Sebotic"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sebotic-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z-treats" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z-treats"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/wiki/User:Andrawaag" title="User:Andrawaag">Andrawaag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrawaag" title="User talk:Andrawaag"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z-treats" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z-treats"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Is needed. <a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka">lv_ra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emitraka" title="User talk:Emitraka"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T15:39:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T15:39:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z"><span 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:I9606" title="User:I9606">I9606</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:I9606" title="User talk:I9606"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-I9606-2015-09-24T17:00:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-I9606-2015-09-24T17:00:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T17:00:00.000Z","author":"I9606","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-I9606-2015-09-24T17:00:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-I9606-2015-09-24T17:00:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-25T08:58:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z"></span>Tobias1984</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Jmh649" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jmh649"><span style="color:#0000f1"><b>Doc James</b></span></a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry">Bluerasberry</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Gambo7" title="User:Gambo7">Gambo7</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Su" title="User:Andrew Su">Andrew Su</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrux" title="User:Andrux">Andrux</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Pavel_Du%C5%A1ek" title="User:Pavel Dušek">Pavel Dušek</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" title="User:Mvolz">Mvolz</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Jtuom" title="User:Jtuom">User:Jtuom</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Cmungall" title="User:Cmungall">Chris Mungall</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ChristianKl" title="User:ChristianKl">ChristianKl</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Gstupp" title="User:Gstupp">Gstupp</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Sintakso" title="User:Sintakso">Sintakso</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="User:علاء">علاء</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Adert" title="User:Adert">Adert</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:CFCF" title="User:CFCF">CFCF</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Jtuom" title="User:Jtuom">Jtuom</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Drchriswilliams" title="User:Drchriswilliams">Drchriswilliams</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Okkn" title="User:Okkn">Okkn</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User:CAPTAIN RAJU">CAPTAIN RAJU</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:LeadSongDog" title="User:LeadSongDog">LeadSongDog</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User:Ozzie10aaaa">Ozzie10aaaa</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Marsupium" title="User:Marsupium">Marsupium</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain" title="User:Netha Hussain">Netha Hussain</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Abhijeet_Safai" title="User:Abhijeet Safai">Abhijeet Safai</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Seppi333" title="User:Seppi333">Seppi333</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Esh77" title="User:Esh77">Shani Evenstein</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Csisc" title="User:Csisc">Csisc</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:TiagoLubiana" title="User:TiagoLubiana">TiagoLubiana</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ZI_Jony" title="User:ZI Jony">ZI Jony</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Antoine2711" title="User:Antoine2711">Antoine2711</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:JustScienceJS" title="User:JustScienceJS">JustScienceJS</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Scossin" title="User:Scossin">Scossin</a><br/> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Josegustavomartins&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Josegustavomartins (page does not exist)">Josegustavomartins</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Zeromonk" title="User:Zeromonk">Zeromonk</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:The_Anome" title="User:The Anome">The Anome</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Kasyap" title="User:Kasyap">Kasyap</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:JMagalh%C3%A3es" title="User:JMagalhães">JMagalhães</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Ameer_Fauri" title="User:Ameer Fauri">Ameer Fauri</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:CorraleH" title="User:CorraleH">CorraleH</a><br/></div><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" 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data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-25T08:58:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:58, 25 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-25T08:58:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Egon_Willighagen" title="User:Egon Willighagen">Egon Willighagen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Egon_Willighagen" title="User talk:Egon Willighagen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-10-04T14:52:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-10-04T14:52:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-04T14:52:00.000Z","author":"Egon 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talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:16:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:16, 5 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:16:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-05T12:16:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:16:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:16:00.000Z-Andrawaag-2015-09-24T12:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="treated_by" data-mw-thread-id="h-treated_by-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-treated_by-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z"></span><span id="treated_by"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">treated by</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-treated_by-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: treated by"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z-treated_by"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2176"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2176" title="Property:P2176">drug or therapy used for treatment</a> <small>(P2176)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2176" title="Property talk:P2176">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Lists drugs which can be used to treat a certain disease.</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>diseases</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Wikidata items</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18558032" title="Q18558032">skin melanoma <small>(Q18558032)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q3011604" title="Q3011604">dabrafenib <small>(Q3011604)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>National Drug File (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://rxnav.nlm.nih.gov">https://rxnav.nlm.nih.gov</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Will be added and maintained by <a href="/wiki/User:ProteinBoxBot/Drug_items" title="User:ProteinBoxBot/Drug items">User:ProteinBoxBot/Drug_items</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>The reverse of the 'treats' property proposal <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebotic" title="User talk:Sebotic"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sebotic-2015-09-24T10:00:00.000Z-treated_by" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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title="User:Bluerasberry">Bluerasberry</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Gambo7" title="User:Gambo7">Gambo7</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Su" title="User:Andrew Su">Andrew Su</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrux" title="User:Andrux">Andrux</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Pavel_Du%C5%A1ek" title="User:Pavel Dušek">Pavel Dušek</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Mvolz" title="User:Mvolz">Mvolz</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Jtuom" title="User:Jtuom">User:Jtuom</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Cmungall" title="User:Cmungall">Chris Mungall</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ChristianKl" title="User:ChristianKl">ChristianKl</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Gstupp" title="User:Gstupp">Gstupp</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Sintakso" title="User:Sintakso">Sintakso</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="User:علاء">علاء</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Adert" title="User:Adert">Adert</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:CFCF" title="User:CFCF">CFCF</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Jtuom" title="User:Jtuom">Jtuom</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Drchriswilliams" title="User:Drchriswilliams">Drchriswilliams</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Okkn" title="User:Okkn">Okkn</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User:CAPTAIN RAJU">CAPTAIN RAJU</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:LeadSongDog" title="User:LeadSongDog">LeadSongDog</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User:Ozzie10aaaa">Ozzie10aaaa</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Marsupium" title="User:Marsupium">Marsupium</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain" title="User:Netha Hussain">Netha Hussain</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Abhijeet_Safai" title="User:Abhijeet Safai">Abhijeet Safai</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Seppi333" title="User:Seppi333">Seppi333</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Esh77" title="User:Esh77">Shani Evenstein</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Csisc" title="User:Csisc">Csisc</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:TiagoLubiana" title="User:TiagoLubiana">TiagoLubiana</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:ZI_Jony" title="User:ZI Jony">ZI Jony</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Antoine2711" title="User:Antoine2711">Antoine2711</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:JustScienceJS" title="User:JustScienceJS">JustScienceJS</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Scossin" title="User:Scossin">Scossin</a><br/> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Josegustavomartins&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Josegustavomartins (page does not exist)">Josegustavomartins</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Zeromonk" title="User:Zeromonk">Zeromonk</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:The_Anome" title="User:The Anome">The Anome</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Kasyap" title="User:Kasyap">Kasyap</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:JMagalh%C3%A3es" title="User:JMagalhães">JMagalhães</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Ameer_Fauri" title="User:Ameer Fauri">Ameer Fauri</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:CorraleH" title="User:CorraleH">CorraleH</a><br/></div><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Medicine/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Medicine/Participants">participants of WikiProject Medicine</a></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic"><bdi>Sebotic</bdi></a>: Maybe this just needs to be an alias for <a href="/wiki/Property:P924" title="Property:P924">possible treatment <small dir="ltr">(P924)</small></a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z-treated_by" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z-treated_by"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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I would use 'treated by' as a title, since it is designed to be an inverse property of 'treats'. Also 'medical treatment' is often used when talking about mental health treatments or surgical procedures, not so much drugs. Even in Wikipedia, when searching for 'medical treatment' you get redirected to an article about 'Therapy' or 'Major Trauma'. I am not saying if this is right or not, but 'treated by' is used when talking about drugs. 'Medical treatment' could be an alias to 'treated by'. <a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka">lv_ra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emitraka" title="User talk:Emitraka"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z","author":"Emitraka","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-10-04T15:11:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z","c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z"],"displayName":"lv_ra"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-10-04T15:11:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic"><bdi>Sebotic</bdi></a>: @<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: My initial thoughts was also around the use of 'treat'... it implies perhaps "more", though at least one dictionary described 'treatment' as 'relief or cure' a disease; combined with your arguments, I decided to write down my thoughts... what about having the property reflect what actually happens: a drug gets prescribed to a patient... it's not always a disease the drug works against, but sometimes a disorder (see this interesting <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3041577/">paper</a>). Anyway, perhaps confusion would reduce if the property would be linked to the fact that "the drug is accepted a prescription treatment for"? The provenance would then be, for example, the FDA report, or they European equivalent. <a href="/wiki/User:Egon_Willighagen" title="User:Egon Willighagen">Egon Willighagen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Egon_Willighagen" title="User talk:Egon Willighagen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-10-04T15:11:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-10-04T15:11:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-04T15:11:00.000Z","author":"Egon Willighagen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-10-04T15:11:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Egon_Willighagen-2015-10-04T15:11:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka"><bdi>Emitraka</bdi></a>: That makes sense. But I wonder if we also need the inverse property. The query system is getting pretty good and adding inverse statements double the workload. Or is there another reason for the proposal above this one? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T16:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>: As far as I know, properties like are proposed "pair-wise". Also from an ontological point of view it is standard practice. <a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka">lv_ra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emitraka" title="User talk:Emitraka"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z","author":"Emitraka","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sebotic-2015-09-25T06:59:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z"],"displayName":"lv_ra"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T17:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-25T06:59:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984"><bdi>Tobias1984</bdi></a>:@<a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka"><bdi>Emitraka</bdi></a>: I agree that on first sight it seems plausible to use 'Medical treatment' also for drugs. But the disease items in WD carrying this property are medical procedures and drug classes, not single drugs. Adding single drugs to 'Medical treatment' will intermingle completely different things. Regarding the reverse property: The capabilities of the WD SPARQL endpoint are already remarkable. But for direct use in infoboxes with lua-script, the reverse property will be required (at least to my knowledge and at least for now). Also, drug-disease relations are often 1:n in both directions, one drug can be used for treatment of several diseases (even off label use) and for most diseases there exist several drugs/drug combinations which are used for treatment. Having those in a WD item will make it easier for users accessing the WD disease item web pages directly to make use of the drug disease link data. From a bot writing point of view, adding the reverse links is simple. Also in regard of <a href="/wiki/User:Emitraka" title="User:Emitraka">lv_ras</a>' point of ontological bidirectionality, I would therefore be in favor of adding this property. <a href="/wiki/User:Sebotic" title="User:Sebotic">Sebotic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebotic" title="User talk:Sebotic"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Sebotic-2015-09-25T06:59:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:59, 25 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sebotic-2015-09-25T06:59:00.000Z-Emitraka-2015-09-24T19:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-09-25T08:59:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 25 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-09-25T08:59:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:16:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:16, 5 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:16:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-09-24T10:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-06-18T16:09:00.000Z-solvent"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2178"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2178" title="Property:P2178">solvent</a> <small>(P2178)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2178" title="Property talk:P2178">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Substance which will dissolve this item</span></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Solvents</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q417174" title="Q417174">erythrityl tetranitrate <small>(Q417174)</small></a> → <a href="/wiki/Q49546" title="Q49546">acetone <small>(Q49546)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Freebase</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Freebase" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Freebase">Freebase import</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Motivation</dt></dl> <p>Needed to import <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.freebase.com/chemistry/solubility_relationship/solvent">https://www.freebase.com/chemistry/solubility_relationship/solvent</a> <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Pigsonthewing-2015-06-18T16:09:00.000Z-solvent" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 18 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2015-06-18T16:09:00.000Z-solvent"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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talk:Kopiersperre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-19T07:05:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-06-18T16:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:05, 19 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-19T07:05:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-06-18T16:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-19T07:05:00.000Z","author":"Kopiersperre","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-19T07:05:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-06-18T16:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Snipre-2015-06-22T12:54:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-19T07:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-19T07:05:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-06-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2015-06-22T12:54:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-19T07:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre"><bdi>Kopiersperre</bdi></a>: No, I think we have to go out of this non scientific way to classify solubility. I agree with the property solvent but not as main property but as qualfifier of the property <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Solubility_(en)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending/2">solubility</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-06-22T12:54:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-19T07:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-06-22T12:54:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-19T07:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> As qualifier of <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Solubility_(en)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending/2">solubility</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-06-22T12:55:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-06-18T16:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-06-22T12:55:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2015-06-18T16:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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<td>soluble</td> <td>33-100 </td></tr> <tr> <td>sparingly soluble</td> <td>10-33 </td></tr> <tr> <td>slightly soluble</td> <td>1-10 </td></tr> <tr> <td>very slightly soluble</td> <td>0,1-1 </td></tr> <tr> <td>not soluble</td> <td>< 0,1 </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Isn't this an option?--<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kopiersperre" title="User talk:Kopiersperre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z-solvent" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z-solvent"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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able to understand what soluble is. Solubility in g/l or mg/l is an absolute value and not a relative like the ones you proposed. Then this table doesn't allow to classify components having the same class of solubility: between 100 and 1000 g/l there is a huge gap. Better use absolute values and let later the data user filter or translate these data into relative index. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 23 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z","author":"Snipre","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-23T13:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-23T13:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre"><bdi>Snipre</bdi></a>: This convinces me.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kopiersperre" title="User:Kopiersperre">Kopiersperre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kopiersperre" title="User talk:Kopiersperre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-23T13:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 23 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-23T13:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-23T13:58:00.000Z","author":"Kopiersperre","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-23T13:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kopiersperre-2015-06-23T13:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2015-06-23T13:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Almondega-2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> The <a href="/wiki/Q170731" title="Q170731">solubility <small>(Q170731)</small></a> is a <a href="/wiki/Q3075154" title="Q3075154">function <small>(Q3075154)</small></a> of <a href="/wiki/Q11466" title="Q11466">temperature <small>(Q11466)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Q39552" title="Q39552">pressure <small>(Q39552)</small></a>. I think it's better use a <a href="/wiki/Q863829" title="Q863829">solubility equilibrium <small>(Q863829)</small></a> constant as <a href="/wiki/Q937228" title="Q937228">property <small>(Q937228)</small></a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Almondega" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Almondega">Almondega</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Almondega" title="User talk:Almondega"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Almondega-2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 15 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Almondega-2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z","author":"Almondega","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Almondega-2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Snipre-2015-09-11T16:35:00.000Z-Almondega-2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Almondega-2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2015-09-11T16:35:00.000Z-Almondega-2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Almondega" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Almondega"><bdi>Almondega</bdi></a>: pressure affects solubility of gazes but not of solids and liquids. For gazes you should add the pressure too as qualifier. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-09-11T16:35:00.000Z-Almondega-2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 11 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-09-11T16:35:00.000Z-Almondega-2015-08-15T18:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:09:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 5 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:09:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-05T13:09:00.000Z","author":"Snipre","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:09:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:09:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T13:22:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T13:22:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T13:22:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-05T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Tobias1984","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T13:22:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T13:22:00.000Z-Kopiersperre-2015-06-22T19:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Solubility_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Solubility_(en)-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"><span id="Solubility_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Solubility_(en)-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span>Solubility (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Solubility_(en)-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: Solubility (en)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Solubility_(en)"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Solubility_(en)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending/2">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2#Solubility (en)</a> </p> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P2177"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P2177" title="Property:P2177">solubility</a> <small>(P2177)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2177" title="Property talk:P2177">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>solubility of a substance with solvent and temperature as qualifiers</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>quantity with unit-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>en, fr and de infoboxes about chemicals</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>chemistry, physics</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2314" title="Q2314">sodium chloride <small>(Q2314)</small></a>: 360 g/kg of solvent, solvent:<a href="/wiki/Q283" title="Q283">water <small>(Q283)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P2076" title="Property:P2076">temperature <small dir="ltr">(P2076)</small></a>: 25°C.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Solubility_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Solubility_(en)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Solubility_(en)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-Solubility_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Solubility_(en)"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Solubility_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-Solubility_(en)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kaligula&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kaligula (page does not exist)">Kaligula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaligula" title="User talk:Kaligula">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Kaligula-2013-06-19T07:06:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Cvf-ps" title="User:Cvf-ps">Cvf-ps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cvf-ps" title="User talk:Cvf-ps">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Cvf-ps-2013-06-26T11:09:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:09, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cvf-ps-2013-06-26T11:09:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Will the assumption be solubility in water or will each item have to specify the solvent? <a href="/wiki/User:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User:James Hare (NIOSH)">James Hare (NIOSH)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User talk:James Hare (NIOSH)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 24 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z","author":"James Hare (NIOSH)","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1","replies":["c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:02:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:02:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:James_Hare_(NIOSH)" title="User:James Hare (NIOSH)"><bdi>James Hare (NIOSH)</bdi></a>: Please have a look at the description of the property proposal: <b>solubility of a substance with solvent and temperature as qualifiers</b>. The solvent should be specified as qualifier. There is currently a property proposal for this qualifier just above this one. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:02:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:02:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-05T13:02:00.000Z","author":"Snipre","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:02:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:02:00.000Z-James_Hare_(NIOSH)-2015-09-24T15:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer"><bdi>GZWDer</bdi></a>: An open question is still blocking this property. And this property and "dipole moment" are missing examples. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 5 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:58:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 5 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-05T13:10:00.000Z","author":"Snipre","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2015-10-05T13:10:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T12:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T13:22:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/35#c-Tobias1984-2015-10-05T13:22:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span 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