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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Alternative_views" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Alternative views">discussion</a>.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Alternative views</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative views</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Alternative views</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Alternative views articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Smart_meters-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z-Smart_meters"],"text":"Smart meters","linkableTitle":"Smart meters"}--><h2 id="Smart_meters" data-mw-thread-id="h-Smart_meters-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Smart_meters-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z"></span>Smart meters<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Smart_meters-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Smart meters"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Smart_meters-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z-Smart_meters"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z-Smart_meters","timestamp":"2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Smart_meters-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z-Smart_meters"],"text":"Smart meters","linkableTitle":"Smart meters"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z-Smart_meters"></span>I removed the link to <a href="/wiki/Smart_meter" title="Smart meter">smart meter</a> because that article doesn't mention conspiracy theories. It gives some examples of the meters being used for surveillance which appear specific, adequately-sourced, and legitimate (and hence not conspiracy theories). But there's nothing about wider theories of the meters being used for more general surveillance. I see a few results online, but not much well-sourced information on theories. I'm not sure if the topic is quite notable and I've not investigated in detail to see if there was coverage that has been deleted. I'd be pleased to see the link reinstated when there is anything to point it to. <a href="/wiki/User:Colapeninsula" title="User:Colapeninsula">Colapeninsula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Colapeninsula" title="User talk:Colapeninsula">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories#c-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z-Smart_meters" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 23 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Colapeninsula-2015-07-23T14:56:00.000Z-Smart_meters"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cirt-2016-03-08T11:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Conspiracy_Encyclopedia-2016-03-08T11:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cirt-2016-03-08T11:47:00.000Z-Conspiracy_Encyclopedia"],"text":"Conspiracy Encyclopedia","linkableTitle":"Conspiracy Encyclopedia"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cirt-2016-03-08T11:47:00.000Z-Conspiracy_Encyclopedia"></span>I've added a link to <i><a href="/wiki/Conspiracy_Encyclopedia" title="Conspiracy Encyclopedia">Conspiracy Encyclopedia</a></i>, recently promoted to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GA">Good Article quality status rating</a>. </p><p>Have a great day, </p><p>— <b><a href="/wiki/User:Cirt" title="User:Cirt">Cirt</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cirt" title="User talk:Cirt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories#c-Cirt-2016-03-08T11:47:00.000Z-Conspiracy_Encyclopedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 8 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cirt-2016-03-08T11:47:00.000Z-Conspiracy_Encyclopedia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-08T11:47:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2016-03-08T11:47:00.000Z-Conspiracy_Encyclopedia","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cirt-2016-03-08T11:47:00.000Z-Conspiracy_Encyclopedia"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z-Inclusion"></span>I think this template should include only something that is explicitly labeled a "conspiracy theory" in the title of the page. For example, I believe that something like <a href="/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther_King_Jr." title="Assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.">Assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.</a> is not a conspiracy theory (and therefore should not be here), even though there are a few conspiracy theories related to this actual event. If we had a separate page about these <i>theories</i> (rather than about the actual event), then it could be linked here. <a href="/wiki/User:My_very_best_wishes" title="User:My very best wishes">My very best wishes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:My_very_best_wishes" title="User talk:My very best wishes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories#c-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z-Inclusion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z-Inclusion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z","author":"My very best wishes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z-Inclusion","replies":["c-Prinsgezinde-2019-07-19T22:23:00.000Z-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z","c-Shibbolethink-20221028164700-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z-Inclusion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prinsgezinde-2019-07-19T22:23:00.000Z-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z"></span>Agreed. <a href="/wiki/User:Prinsgezinde" title="User:Prinsgezinde">Prinsgezinde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prinsgezinde" title="User talk:Prinsgezinde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories#c-Prinsgezinde-2019-07-19T22:23:00.000Z-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 19 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prinsgezinde-2019-07-19T22:23:00.000Z-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-19T22:23:00.000Z","author":"Prinsgezinde","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Prinsgezinde-2019-07-19T22:23:00.000Z-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prinsgezinde-2019-07-19T22:23:00.000Z-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shibbolethink-20221028164700-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z"></span>I would disagree, I Think anything which has prominent accusations of being a conspiracy should also probably apply. There are quite a few on here which have been labelled conspiracy theories by popular audiences and experts (moon landing hoax) which have motivated in-universe cranks around to try and dispute the "conspiracy theory" label in the article text. I think it would be a disservice if such things were removed from the template. Granted, I agree Assassination of MLK does not have that, and should also be removed. — <a href="/wiki/User:Shibbolethink" title="User:Shibbolethink"><span style="color: black">Shibboleth</span><span style="color: maroon">ink</span></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shibbolethink" title="User talk:Shibbolethink">♔</a></sup> <sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Shibbolethink" title="Special:Contributions/Shibbolethink">♕</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories#c-Shibbolethink-20221028164700-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 28 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shibbolethink-20221028164700-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221028164700","author":"Shibbolethink","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Shibbolethink-20221028164700-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shibbolethink-20221028164700-My_very_best_wishes-2017-05-27T03:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SchreiberBike-20240304230400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mental_illness_denial-20240304230400","replies":["c-SchreiberBike-20240304230400-Mental_illness_denial"],"text":"Mental illness denial","linkableTitle":"Mental illness denial"}--><h2 id="Mental_illness_denial" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mental_illness_denial-20240304230400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mental_illness_denial-20240304230400"></span><a href="/wiki/Mental_illness_denial" title="Mental illness denial">Mental illness denial</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mental_illness_denial-20240304230400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Mental illness denial"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SchreiberBike-20240304230400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mental_illness_denial-20240304230400","replies":["c-SchreiberBike-20240304230400-Mental_illness_denial"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Slatersteven-20240305164200-Lau737-20240305163500","timestamp":"20240305164200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SchreiberBike-20240304230400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mental_illness_denial-20240304230400","replies":["c-SchreiberBike-20240304230400-Mental_illness_denial"],"text":"Mental illness denial","linkableTitle":"Mental illness denial"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SchreiberBike-20240304230400-Mental_illness_denial"></span>To my unpracticed eye, <a href="/wiki/Mental_illness_denial" title="Mental illness denial">mental illness denial</a> can be a reasonable opinion, but is also a conspiracy theory. Rather than simply reverting <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a></span> and <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Lau737" title="User:Lau737">Lau737</a></span>'s edits, let's discuss. <a href="/wiki/User:SchreiberBike" title="User:SchreiberBike">SchreiberBike </a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchreiberBike#top" title="User talk:SchreiberBike"> ⌨ </a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories#c-SchreiberBike-20240304230400-Mental_illness_denial" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SchreiberBike-20240304230400-Mental_illness_denial"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240304230400","author":"SchreiberBike","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SchreiberBike-20240304230400-Mental_illness_denial","replies":["c-Slatersteven-20240305123900-SchreiberBike-20240304230400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SchreiberBike-20240304230400-Mental_illness_denial"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20240305123900-SchreiberBike-20240304230400"></span>ANd there you have my issue, it is not A Conspiracy theory, at best it can be. <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven" title="User talk:Slatersteven">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories#c-Slatersteven-20240305123900-SchreiberBike-20240304230400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20240305123900-SchreiberBike-20240304230400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240305123900","author":"Slatersteven","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Slatersteven-20240305123900-SchreiberBike-20240304230400","replies":["c-Lau737-20240305163500-Slatersteven-20240305123900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20240305123900-SchreiberBike-20240304230400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lau737-20240305163500-Slatersteven-20240305123900"></span>My reasoning is that mental illness denial is often linked to conspiracy theories involving crazy doctors, crazy intellectuals, the government, or in some way all three. After all, there has to be some explanation for all those mentions of "depression," "ADHD," or "shell shock," if those aren't real things.</dd> <dd>Best regards <a href="/wiki/User:Lau737" title="User:Lau737">Lau737</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lau737" title="User talk:Lau737">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories#c-Lau737-20240305163500-Slatersteven-20240305123900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lau737-20240305163500-Slatersteven-20240305123900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240305163500","author":"Lau737","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lau737-20240305163500-Slatersteven-20240305123900","replies":["c-Slatersteven-20240305164200-Lau737-20240305163500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lau737-20240305163500-Slatersteven-20240305123900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-20240305164200-Lau737-20240305163500"></span>Then would this not be a link to <a href="/wiki/Mental_illness" class="mw-redirect" title="Mental illness">Mental illness</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven" title="User talk:Slatersteven">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracy_theories#c-Slatersteven-20240305164200-Lau737-20240305163500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-20240305164200-Lau737-20240305163500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240305164200","author":"Slatersteven","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Slatersteven-20240305164200-Lau737-20240305163500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-20240305164200-Lau737-20240305163500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐75c465f4c6‐wh5vl Cached time: 20241125135609 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.015 seconds CPU time usage: 0.281 seconds Real time usage: 0.417 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 2274/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 22901/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 5427/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 18/100 Expensive parser function count: 39/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 18453/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.139/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2198024/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 337.966 1 -total 65.96% 222.929 1 Template:Talk_header 30.79% 104.044 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 16.25% 54.936 2 Template:Yearly_archive_list 14.69% 49.645 1 Template:WikiProject_Skepticism 14.52% 49.058 2 Template:For_loop 12.35% 41.745 9 Template:Th/abp 10.55% 35.642 1 Template:Tooltip 10.54% 35.605 1 Template:Pagetype 9.71% 32.813 1 Template:Comma_separated_entries --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:17444355:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241125135609 and revision id 1233817943. 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