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I think that this author could have wanted to present Ilyin in better view. --<a href="/wiki/User:Igor_Yalovecky" title="User:Igor Yalovecky">Igor Yalovecky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Igor_Yalovecky" title="User talk:Igor Yalovecky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Igor_Yalovecky-20221003030500-iljinru.tsygankov.ru_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Igor_Yalovecky-20221003030500-iljinru.tsygankov.ru_sources"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221003030500","author":"Igor Yalovecky","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Igor_Yalovecky-20221003030500-iljinru.tsygankov.ru_sources","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Igor_Yalovecky-20221003030500-iljinru.tsygankov.ru_sources"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taksen-20221003052000-iljinru.tsygankov.ru_sources"></span>How about yourself? This board looks pretty reliable to me. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://iljinru.tsygankov.ru/about.html">http://iljinru.tsygankov.ru/about.html</a> He is involved in <a href="/wiki/Vedomosti" title="Vedomosti">Vedomosti</a> founded by <a href="/wiki/Derk_Sauer" title="Derk Sauer">Derk Sauer</a>. Could be worse, byebye<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Taksen-20221003052000-iljinru.tsygankov.ru_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taksen-20221003052000-iljinru.tsygankov.ru_sources"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221003052000","author":"Taksen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Taksen-20221003052000-iljinru.tsygankov.ru_sources","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taksen-20221003052000-iljinru.tsygankov.ru_sources"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Taksen-20221008073000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in-20221008073000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Taksen-20221008073000-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Poelchau, ROND and Il'in&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Poelchau, ROND and Il'in&quot;}--><h2 id="Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in" data-mw-thread-id="h-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il&#039;in-20221008073000"><span id="Poelchau.2C_ROND_and_Il.27in"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in-20221008073000"></span>Poelchau, ROND and Il'in<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in-20221008073000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ivan_Ilyin&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Poelchau, ROND and Il&#039;in"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Taksen-20221008073000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in-20221008073000","replies":["c-Taksen-20221008073000-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Taksen-20221008073000-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in","timestamp":"20221008073000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Taksen-20221008073000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in-20221008073000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Taksen-20221008073000-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Poelchau, ROND and Il'in&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Poelchau, ROND and Il'in&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taksen-20221008073000-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in"></span>I checked the article you added, Il'in is mentioned three times, but nothing about being bullied. Poelchau is mentioned only once in a caption. His name seems to be Pelhau according to this article: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://traditio.wiki/Черновик:Андрей_Петрович_Светозаров">https://traditio.wiki/Черновик:Андрей_Петрович_Светозаров</a>. I did check the Russian Wikipedia on R(O)ND, but they do not have any information on this (masonic, fascist?) group. Please add your information at the ROD-article, or make clear which pagenumber I have to look, and why it should be mentioned here as it looks like <a href="/wiki/Original_research" class="mw-redirect" title="Original research">original research</a>. These names aren't used anywhere on internet. <a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Taksen-20221008073000-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taksen-20221008073000-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221008073000","author":"Taksen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Taksen-20221008073000-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taksen-20221008073000-Poelchau,_ROND_and_Il'in"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Taksen-20221008074900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Categories-20221008074900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Taksen-20221008074900-Categories&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Categories&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Categories&quot;}--><h2 id="Categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-Categories-20221008074900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Categories-20221008074900"></span>Categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Categories-20221008074900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ivan_Ilyin&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Categories"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Taksen-20221008074900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Categories-20221008074900","replies":["c-Taksen-20221008074900-Categories"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Taksen-20221008074900-Categories","timestamp":"20221008074900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Taksen-20221008074900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Categories-20221008074900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Taksen-20221008074900-Categories&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Categories&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Categories&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taksen-20221008074900-Categories"></span>There are too many categories mentioned. Who is responsible for this messy and quasi scientific addition? Some could be deleted, as uninformative. In my point of view it is a proof of the incapability to improve an article.<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Taksen-20221008074900-Categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:49, 8 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taksen-20221008074900-Categories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221008074900","author":"Taksen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Taksen-20221008074900-Categories","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taksen-20221008074900-Categories"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Taksen-20221114132300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia-20221114132300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Taksen-20221114132300-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Ilyin's works about Russia&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Ilyin's works about Russia&quot;}--><h2 id="Ilyin's_works_about_Russia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ilyin&#039;s_works_about_Russia-20221114132300"><span id="Ilyin.27s_works_about_Russia"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia-20221114132300"></span>Ilyin's works about Russia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia-20221114132300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ivan_Ilyin&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: Ilyin&#039;s works about Russia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Taksen-20221114132300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia-20221114132300","replies":["c-Taksen-20221114132300-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Rahammz-20221115012400-Taksen-20221114132300","timestamp":"20221115012400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Taksen-20221114132300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia-20221114132300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Taksen-20221114132300-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Ilyin's works about Russia&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Ilyin's works about Russia&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taksen-20221114132300-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia"></span>Please, improve this section if you think you are an expert.<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) 13:23, 14 November 2022 (UTC) I can see on your talk page and contributions you are some sort of communist/atheist, very involved with fighting fascism. You don't seem reliable source, more a prejudiced person. Your user name is also suspicious, and your contributions are not appreciated without a source. <a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Taksen-20221114132300-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 14 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taksen-20221114132300-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221114132300","author":"Taksen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Taksen-20221114132300-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia","replies":["c-Rahammz-20221115012000-Taksen-20221114132300","c-Rahammz-20221115012400-Taksen-20221114132300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taksen-20221114132300-Ilyin's_works_about_Russia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rahammz-20221115012000-Taksen-20221114132300"></span>I don't know if this was directed to me because you didn't @ me. The reason that line was removed was because the source is an Orthodox blog sympathic to Ilyin which cannot be considered a reliable source. Especially considering that one of Ilyin's last publications "Our Tasks" was a completely political work about the Soviet Union and the Future of Russia. So it is not true that he only wrote about "family and patriotic values"، in that same publication he argued for autocracy and theocracy. <a href="/wiki/User:Rahammz" title="User:Rahammz">Rahammz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rahammz" title="User talk:Rahammz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Rahammz-20221115012000-Taksen-20221114132300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 15 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rahammz-20221115012000-Taksen-20221114132300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221115012000","author":"Rahammz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rahammz-20221115012000-Taksen-20221114132300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rahammz-20221115012000-Taksen-20221114132300"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rahammz-20221115012400-Taksen-20221114132300"></span>As for my account, most of my contributions are related to history of communism/socialism and Eastern Europe. I don't see how I'm "fighting fascism" with my contributions. And what's suspicious about my username? The point is to not use personal blogs as sources. Use peer reviewed journals or at least credible websites, as you seem to be very preoccupied with the page of Ivan Ilyin <a href="/wiki/User:Rahammz" title="User:Rahammz">Rahammz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rahammz" title="User talk:Rahammz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Rahammz-20221115012400-Taksen-20221114132300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 15 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rahammz-20221115012400-Taksen-20221114132300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221115012400","author":"Rahammz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rahammz-20221115012400-Taksen-20221114132300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rahammz-20221115012400-Taksen-20221114132300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Taksen-20221120142400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hidden_sections-20221120142400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Taksen-20221120142400-Hidden_sections&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hidden sections&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hidden sections&quot;}--><h2 id="Hidden_sections" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hidden_sections-20221120142400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hidden_sections-20221120142400"></span>Hidden sections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hidden_sections-20221120142400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ivan_Ilyin&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Hidden sections"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Taksen-20221120142400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hidden_sections-20221120142400","replies":["c-Taksen-20221120142400-Hidden_sections"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Taksen-20221120142400-Hidden_sections","timestamp":"20221120142400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Taksen-20221120142400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hidden_sections-20221120142400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Taksen-20221120142400-Hidden_sections&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hidden sections&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hidden sections&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taksen-20221120142400-Hidden_sections"></span>I hide two subsections as no one seems to be interested in improving them: <i>The concept of consciousness of law</i> and <i>Attitude towards monarchy</i>. Ilyin is not an easy topic. It is better to stick to what is interesting us.<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Taksen-20221120142400-Hidden_sections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 20 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taksen-20221120142400-Hidden_sections"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221120142400","author":"Taksen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Taksen-20221120142400-Hidden_sections","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taksen-20221120142400-Hidden_sections"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rahammz-20221210070700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Irrelevant_\&quot;colleagues\&quot;_section-20221210070700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rahammz-20221210070700-Irrelevant_\&quot;colleagues\&quot;_section&quot;,&quot;c-Rahammz-20221211161700-Irrelevant_\&quot;colleagues\&quot;_section&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Irrelevant \&quot;colleagues\&quot; section&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Irrelevant \&quot;colleagues\&quot; section&quot;}--><h2 id="Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section-20221210070700"><span id="Irrelevant_.22colleagues.22_section"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section-20221210070700"></span>Irrelevant "colleagues" section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section-20221210070700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ivan_Ilyin&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Irrelevant &quot;colleagues&quot; section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rahammz-20221210070700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Irrelevant_\"colleagues\"_section-20221210070700","replies":["c-Rahammz-20221210070700-Irrelevant_\"colleagues\"_section","c-Rahammz-20221211161700-Irrelevant_\"colleagues\"_section"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Taksen-20230303040000-128.135.98.203-20230302175400","timestamp":"20230303040000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rahammz-20221210070700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Irrelevant_\&quot;colleagues\&quot;_section-20221210070700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rahammz-20221210070700-Irrelevant_\&quot;colleagues\&quot;_section&quot;,&quot;c-Rahammz-20221211161700-Irrelevant_\&quot;colleagues\&quot;_section&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Irrelevant \&quot;colleagues\&quot; section&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Irrelevant \&quot;colleagues\&quot; section&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rahammz-20221210070700-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section"></span>There is literally no reason for the colleagues section to exist. None of the people mentioned had any connection to Ilyin. Them being critics of Weimar parliamentary democracy doesn't make them colleagues of Ilyin, and even if they were his colleagues that section still adds nothing to this page. There are definitely dozens of other thinkers who were critics of Weimar's system, you can't just add a list of them on another thinker's page. <a href="/wiki/User:Rahammz" title="User:Rahammz">Rahammz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rahammz" title="User talk:Rahammz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Rahammz-20221210070700-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:07, 10 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rahammz-20221210070700-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221210070700","author":"Rahammz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rahammz-20221210070700-Irrelevant_\"colleagues\"_section","replies":["c-Taksen-20221210123400-Rahammz-20221210070700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rahammz-20221210070700-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taksen-20221210123400-Rahammz-20221210070700"></span>You sound like a Spanish <a href="/wiki/Inquisitioner" class="mw-redirect" title="Inquisitioner">inquisitioner</a>. Again you do not add much, but prefer to delete which is easier. Ilyin should not be seen as a solitary figure, not by Russians nor by Westerners. In the twenties many philosophers and historians were dealing with the question how to change the world they were living in after WWI. Some shared similar, others had opposite views. That looks important enough to me. The details about Heidegger and Arendt were new to me and make clear high-profile scientist were dealing with the same topic. It is not unlikely he knew Heidegger and Arendt. (As far as I know he did not leave a diary.) I would not be surprised he was also influenced by Spengler, a talked-about historian from those days. Not only philosophers are complex and sometimes contradictory. All over the world people are studying Ilyin, whose production is difficult to understand within one month or two decades. (They are quarreling about Robespierre's influence for more than two centuries. I expect the same will happen with Ilyin.)<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Taksen-20221210123400-Rahammz-20221210070700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 10 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taksen-20221210123400-Rahammz-20221210070700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221210123400","author":"Taksen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Taksen-20221210123400-Rahammz-20221210070700","replies":["c-128.135.98.203-20230302175400-Taksen-20221210123400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taksen-20221210123400-Rahammz-20221210070700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-128.135.98.203-20230302175400-Taksen-20221210123400"></span>There is no point of having colleagues, which no source that shows Ilyin is connected to them, in this article. If you want to claim that Ilyin was influenced by these people and as such should remain in this article, find a source for this. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/128.135.98.203" title="Special:Contributions/128.135.98.203">128.135.98.203</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:128.135.98.203" title="User talk:128.135.98.203">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-128.135.98.203-20230302175400-Taksen-20221210123400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-128.135.98.203-20230302175400-Taksen-20221210123400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230302175400","author":"128.135.98.203","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-128.135.98.203-20230302175400-Taksen-20221210123400","replies":["c-Taksen-20230303040000-128.135.98.203-20230302175400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-128.135.98.203-20230302175400-Taksen-20221210123400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taksen-20230303040000-128.135.98.203-20230302175400"></span>No point? I do not claim Ilyin was influenced by these people. (Ilyin likely read Spengler, but does not mention him. He seems only interested in a Russian view.) These people were influenced by fascism, like Ilyin and many others. If these people are irrelevant than Hitler and Mussolini are also. Byebye.<a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) 04:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC) Right now many Europeans are suffering from the cowboy point of view on European history, Russia and fascism. In the 30's there were also fascist parties in the US and the UK, isn't it? <a href="/wiki/User:Taksen" title="User:Taksen">Taksen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Taksen" title="User talk:Taksen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Taksen-20230303040000-128.135.98.203-20230302175400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:30, 3 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taksen-20230303040000-128.135.98.203-20230302175400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230303040000","author":"Taksen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Taksen-20230303040000-128.135.98.203-20230302175400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taksen-20230303040000-128.135.98.203-20230302175400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rahammz-20221211161700-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section"></span>Your reasoning is absolutely hilarious. None of these philosophers mentiond have any connections to Ilyin or is there any evidence that they even knew Ilyin existed. Listing a bunch of philosophers who criticized Weimar democracy isn't adding anything valuable to this page. By this logic, every single philosopher's pages on Wikipedia needs a "colleague" section where you just list random contemporary philosophers that have no association with the person. It seems like you are very obsessed with Ilyin and think adding anything here somehow makes the page better. Hopefully an administrator will remove it, because it has no place here. Philosophers being complex doesn't have much to do with Wikipedia policy. <a href="/wiki/User:Rahammz" title="User:Rahammz">Rahammz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rahammz" title="User talk:Rahammz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivan_Ilyin#c-Rahammz-20221211161700-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 11 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rahammz-20221211161700-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221211161700","author":"Rahammz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rahammz-20221211161700-Irrelevant_\"colleagues\"_section","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rahammz-20221211161700-Irrelevant_&quot;colleagues&quot;_section"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Pascalulu88-20241005013900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy-20241005013900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Pascalulu88-20241005013900-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Meeting with Leo Tolstoy&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Meeting with Leo Tolstoy&quot;}--><h2 id="Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy-20241005013900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy-20241005013900"></span>Meeting with Leo Tolstoy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy-20241005013900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ivan_Ilyin&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Meeting with Leo Tolstoy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Pascalulu88-20241005013900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy-20241005013900","replies":["c-Pascalulu88-20241005013900-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Pascalulu88-20241005013900-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy","timestamp":"20241005013900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Pascalulu88-20241005013900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy-20241005013900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Pascalulu88-20241005013900-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Meeting with Leo Tolstoy&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Meeting with Leo Tolstoy&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pascalulu88-20241005013900-Meeting_with_Leo_Tolstoy"></span>"In 1913 it appears that the couple broke with their relatives and met with Leo Tolstoy, according to Konstantin Krylov." Not possible since Tolstoy died in 1910. 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