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Very few people play <i>Angband </i>today, and most PC gamers have likely never heard of it - even when they've likely heard of <i>NetHack</i> and <i>Dwarf Fortress</i>. But did you know that the randomized equipment or "loot" so common in video games today was originally an innovation of <i>Angband</i>? </p><p>Today, these "loot lotteries" <a href="https://www.giantbomb.com/color-coded-loot/3015-4702/">go far beyond</a> just RPGs: the same blue "rares" and purple "epics" can be seen in the mainstream from mobile games to <i> Fortnite</i>, <i>Destiny</i>, and <i>Counter-Strike: Global Offensive</i>. We tend to talk a lot about the principles that make these systems <a href="https://kotaku.com/why-video-game-loot-is-so-addictive-according-to-the-c-1846695147">compelling and even addictive</a>. But what is less often discussed is how the concept's introduction into the mainstream of commercial games came largely through the vision of a single passionate <i>Angband</i> fan.</p> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.softpaz.com/screenshots/angband-angband-team/4.png" style="clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="435" data-original-width="800" height="349" src="https://www.softpaz.com/screenshots/angband-angband-team/4.png" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>Angband's items aren't entirely colour-coded by their rarity, just by category...</i></td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i> </i></td></tr></tbody> </table> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://lparchive.org/Angband/Update%2008/35-angband-08-34.png" style="clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="212" data-original-width="642" src="https://lparchive.org/Angband/Update%2008/35-angband-08-34.png" width="100%" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>...However, artifacts are set apart by their names that glow in light blue. Might this choice be inspired by Bilbo's glowing sword, Sting?</i></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br /></p><p><i><br /></i></p><h3 style="text-align: left;">The roots of loot</h3><p></p><i></i> <p>Like its predecessor <i><b>Moria </b></i>(1983), <i>Angband </i>is an unoffical Tolkien fangame, pitting the player against Sauron and Morgoth. (It got away with this by being free and open-source; don't try doing this in a for-profit game.)</p> <p><b>[EDIT 2024-07-09]</b> This article originally failed to name the authors of Angband, a glaring omission for which I apologize. Angband was originally created by <b>Alex Cutler</b> and <b>Andy Astrand</b>. Their work was continued by <b>Sean Marsh</b> and <b>Geoff Hill</b>, who released the first public release of the game. More information can be found here: <a href="https://rephial.org/release/2.4.fk">https://rephial.org/release/2.4.fk</a>. I thank co-creator Andy Astrand for commenting below, which prompted me to realize the omission and very belatedly rectify it. <b>[/EDIT]</b> </p> <p></p> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj6UaYF2qJmLHdJIdhE65-rWTTUjZKj6VNNGlKLDCqR9Rawz1VMypfdR9Sl22x_e-rYws9ExgDCFWKyTYZ4hoJwIBqONBeDVj19NbheywksYz-gOVj-9KKW1FvPHoOKQ1ZoxoxhIlpz7rA/s561/od%2526d+booklet+2.png" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="561" data-original-width="352" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj6UaYF2qJmLHdJIdhE65-rWTTUjZKj6VNNGlKLDCqR9Rawz1VMypfdR9Sl22x_e-rYws9ExgDCFWKyTYZ4hoJwIBqONBeDVj19NbheywksYz-gOVj-9KKW1FvPHoOKQ1ZoxoxhIlpz7rA/w200-h320/od%2526d+booklet+2.png" width="200" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>The Monsters & Treasure booklet.</i><br /></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p>In the procedurally generated halls of Morgoth's fortress, the player can chance upon a variety of items on the floor or dropped by slain enemies. The item drops are randomly determined. There's nothing unique about this in itself, of course - the same could be said for <i><b>Rogue </b></i>(1980) and, in fact, pen-and-paper roleplaying games starting with the very first publication of <i><b>Dungeons & Dragons</b></i> (1974).<br /><p></p><h3 style="text-align: left;"></h3><p>From the very beginning, the methods of generating loot were quite complex. In the original D&D game's second booklet, <b>Monsters & Treasure</b>, each monster is given a treasure type, for example: <i>Giant, 5,000 GP + Type E</i>. This indicates a giant lair will contain at least five thousand gold coins worth of treasure, plus potentially other things determined by a series of dice rolls on row E of the <i>treasure types table</i>. The table lists chances for several categories of treasure, each of which is rolled separately: separate chances for each type of coin, gems, and, finally, "Maps or Magic". For Type E, the entry for this last category reads: </p><blockquote><p>30%: any 3 + 1 Scroll <br /></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><i>(Gygax & Arneson. Vol 2. p. 22, Dungeons & Dragons. TSR, 1974.)</i></p></blockquote><p></p><p>This means that the dungeon master rolls a d100, and on a result of 1-30, magic items are present. If so, the DM then proceeds to roll on the magic item lists: once on the Scrolls table to determine the type of the scroll, and three rolls for the other items of randomly determined categories (swords, potions, wands, etc.).</p><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJE8zjbAjRLIfIykhIJhIw82A2I4SeDuRnAJ6raN-xk9Y1-C1VhbWAkhtHG51dvWH_C10rDLreex1HWUbS_1Y9ZzfiaX-Pra5HUWZeg_bkaEf-Hp-MlGl_SWCvInrhZcArM-At5qQlRyA/s972/od%2526d+treasure+type+e.png" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="279" data-original-width="972" height="184" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJE8zjbAjRLIfIykhIJhIw82A2I4SeDuRnAJ6raN-xk9Y1-C1VhbWAkhtHG51dvWH_C10rDLreex1HWUbS_1Y9ZzfiaX-Pra5HUWZeg_bkaEf-Hp-MlGl_SWCvInrhZcArM-At5qQlRyA/w640-h184/od%2526d+treasure+type+e.png" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>Treasure Type E, used for giants, elves, and some of the more dangerous undead.</i><br /></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p><p><br /> <br />So this all adds up to the dungeon master making up to 15 rolls generate the treasure in a giants' lair. That's the worst case scenario, of course - but, on top of those rolls, some items have further details to be determined: if the scroll is a spell scroll, then the spells written on it will need to be determined, and so on...</p><p>It's quite an involved process, and has not grown particularly more complex in later games - at least as long as a human brain and a pencil are used to do the generating. (Of course, a game master is not beholden to these guidelines, and may choose to instead place items using their own judgment.)</p><p>When computers began to be used for generating dungeons, they had no such limitations:<b> a computer can make thousands of simulated die rolls a second</b>. Now, the greater challenge lies in designing the rules in such a way as to generate results that are interesting, varied, and balanced, even after countless repetitions. On the other hand, the computer does not have the benefit of using common sense or imagination. It cannot choose to occasionally ignore a rule here and there, scrap a nonsensical result, or suddenly create an entirely novel type of item. The designer must specify all the rules and parameters exactly.<br /></p><p>In the same D&D booklet, rules for magic swords were described. Swords were unique among magic weapons in that they could have personalities: the sword's alignment was rolled, as well as values for its <b>intelligence </b>and <b>egoism</b>. These were numeric statistics similar to those of player characters. If the sword's intelligence was sufficiently high, it was sentient and communicated telepathically, and potentially had a number of randomly chosen special powers such as detecting magic, flight, or telekinesis.</p><p>Sentient swords with a high egoism score were able to exert their influence on the wielder, initiating a battle of wills. Mechanically, this was a contested roll using the sword's egoism statistic against the wielder's statistics, with the winner gaining control over the other. These rules for mental conflict were designed to emulate the cursed swords in literature - specifically, Elric of M茅lnibone's struggles with his runeblade <b>Stormbringer </b>in the many stories written by Michael Moorcock.</p><h3 style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div>Randarts: Stormbringer goes electric<br /></h3><p></p> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><p> So, if loot has been randomly scattered throughout the dungeon in RPGs ever since RPGs existed, what made <i>Angband </i>so unique in its day? How did it impact the history of video games far beyond the roguelike genre, starting with <i><b>Diablo</b> </i>(1997) and <i><b>World of Warcraft</b></i> (2004), like I claimed earlier?</p><p>The key innovation of <i>Angband </i>was randomly generated artifacts or <b>"randarts"</b>. This feature is arguably what made <i>Diablo </i>such an addictive game - and a game that printed money for Blizzard Entertainment and has been a part of their winning formula ever since. </p><p><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://lparchive.org/Angband/Update%2060/12-angband-60-12.png" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="393" data-original-width="618" height="162" src="https://lparchive.org/Angband/Update%2060/12-angband-60-12.png" width="254" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>Angband's randarts can get quite elaborate.</i><br /></td></tr></tbody></table><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiYyvhLI9BjmzwtwaZmSH5NjQoce6ZkpBBLruBrErkHgrVnf1uimWRIwLXCyYDpn5eB_Zv7gmxQWcUtCF5RG5AeSFgEEDgOpZizhOpdSklmq9ufaRNlo6IZtikT9poAcU3m6SQooqZZFrc/s317/wow+epic+bloodrazor+2.png" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="202" data-original-width="317" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiYyvhLI9BjmzwtwaZmSH5NjQoce6ZkpBBLruBrErkHgrVnf1uimWRIwLXCyYDpn5eB_Zv7gmxQWcUtCF5RG5AeSFgEEDgOpZizhOpdSklmq9ufaRNlo6IZtikT9poAcU3m6SQooqZZFrc/s16000/wow+epic+bloodrazor+2.png" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>A weapon of Epic rarity in </i><i><i>World of Warcraft</i>.</i></td></tr></tbody></table> </p> <p></p> <p></p><p></p> <p></p><p></p><br />  <p></p> <p></p> <p></p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <br /> <p>Randarts took a base item, such as a dagger or a tower shield, and modified it by adding multiple properties or "intrinsics", often with further randomized numeric values, some activated powers, and so on. By laying these randomized properties on top of each other in different combinations, an effectively endless variety of equipment is generated. For example: <br /></p><blockquote><i>the Mace 'Taratol' (3d4) (+12,+12)</i> <br /></blockquote><blockquote><i>Slays dragons (powerfully). Branded with lightning. Provides immunity to lightning. Cannot be harmed by acid, fire. When activated, it hastens you for d20+20 turns.</i></blockquote><p>These randomly named artifacts were supplemented by fixed artifacts from the Tolkien legendarium, such as the <i>Phial of Galadriel</i>. Additionally, there were randomly-created magic items with no proper names but which appended a suffix  "...of X" to the item's name:</p><blockquote><p><i>Iron Helm of Seeing<br />Chain Mail of Resistance<br />Mithril Arrows of Frost</i><br /></p></blockquote><p>The "X of Y" naming is immediately recognizable to anyone who has played an MMORPG. Of course, many of these properties were directly copied from D&D as well. In the <i>Angband </i>fandom, and later roguelikes such as <i><b>Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup</b></i> (2006), these properties are called <b>"brands"</b> (cf. <i>"frost brand sword"</i>) for weapons, or more generally, <b>"egos"</b>.  <br /></p><p>I was unable to find any direct source stating that the "ego" terminology in these games has its origins in the "<b>egoism</b>" statistic  (in later editions, "Ego" score) of D&D's sentient weapons. But I think the lineage is pretty evident here, and this connection can probably be assumed.<br /></p><p>Nevertheless, compared to pen-and-paper games, the huge amount of combinations that was possible through computer algorithms took the loot lottery to a whole new level, and is the secret sauce that made <i>Diablo </i>so popular and influential. <br /><br /></p><h3 style="text-align: left;">The devil in the design<br /></h3><blockquote><p>"Having realtime combat was an unusual thing." -David Brevik<br /></p></blockquote><i><span>    </span><span>    </span><span>   </span>(GI Show. Game Informer.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646tWu_1yXE#t=2h37m">YouTube</a>. May 2019.)</i><p>The other unique feature of <i>Diablo </i>behind its popularity is its real-time gameplay. This was relatively rare in computer RPGs of the 90s, and the hack-and-slash games that did exist were often first-person affairs such as <b><i>Might and Magic VI</i></b> (1998) or <i><b>The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall</b></i> (1996). However, the real-time aspect of <i>Diablo </i>was not present during much of the game's development: in <a href="http://www.graybeardgames.com/download/diablo_pitch.pdf">a design document from 1994</a>, the game is described as operating <i>"on a turn-based system"</i>, and a complex action-points system is alluded to. The same document reinforces the randomly created dungeons as <i>"the heart"</i> of the game. The roguelike origins of <i>Diablo </i>are immediately obvious.</p><p>While the creator of the game, David Brevik, was not afraid of taking some innovative departures from those roguelike roots (such as network-based multiplayer, a simple mouse-based interface, and a business model inspired by Magic the Gathering), there was one leap he was strongly opposed to taking: <i>Diablo </i>would never be a real-time game. In <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huPF3Gid7DE">an interview with Ars Technica</a>, he calls it his "his line in the sand" for what the game should be. It was turn-based or bust. It took a very long time for his colleagues and publishers (Blizzard, fresh off the success of the first Warcraft game) to get Brevik to agree to even test the idea. <br /></p><blockquote><p>"I said [to Blizzard], 'What are you guys talking about, no no no, this isn't one of your strategy games. We are really commited to making a turn-based game.' <b>I love the sweat in a turn based game, especially in a roguelike, when you've made a turn, and you're down to one hit point, and you're frantically searching through your inventory </b>... I really loved that tension. And they said, 'Yeah, but, you know... real-time will be better.' ... There were two or three of us that held out 'til the bitter end."</p></blockquote><blockquote><p><i>(Diablo: A Classic Game Postmortem. GDC. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VscdPA6sUkc#t=24m30s">YouTube</a>. May 2016.)</i><br /></p></blockquote><p>When he finally implemented real-time gameplay into the Diablo prototype, Brevik immediately fell in love with it. Development continued on the now-realtime game with renewed excitement, and of course players would come to love the gameplay as well. Still, it is interesting to note that unlike many other roguelike trappings with which Brevik disposed of early on, the turn-based framework was one that he was not willing to let go of.</p><p></p> <table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><img border="0" data-original-height="480" data-original-width="640" height="480" src="https://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/18605-diablo-windows-screenshot-you-can-put-the-items-of-your-inventory.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>Diablo.</i><br /></td></tr></tbody></table><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/18605-diablo-windows-screenshot-you-can-put-the-items-of-your-inventory.jpg" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"> </a> </div> <p></p><p></p><p><br />In an interview with Game Informer (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646tWu_1yXE#t=2h37m">YouTube</a>, around 2h37m), Brevik is asked about the colour-coded loot which has been copied into so many other games. He directly credits Angband as the inspiration:</p><blockquote><p>"What about <b>loot rarity colours</b>? Did you guys take that chart from anywhere, or was that invented in Diablo?"<br /></p></blockquote><p></p><blockquote><p>"That came from a game called <i>Angband</i>. Back in college, I played <b>a lot of roguelike games</b> - including <i>Rogue</i>, which is where the term roguelike comes from. There were kind of different versions of this and there was Tolkien-themed ones ... they had a version called <i>Moria</i>, and somebody else made a version of it called <i>uMoria</i>, and then that changed into this game called <i>Angband</i>...</p><p>Anyway, so <i>Angband </i>was a game I played thousands, literally thousands of hours of. It was really <b>the game that <i>Diablo </i>was based on. I wanted to take <i>Angband</i>, that original game, and make a modern version of it.</b> <br /></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Because this was an ASCII game, you were the '@' symbol, and you were attacking the letter 'k' ... that was what the game looked like, it was just all letters. <b>But there were different random items that you could get in the game and they had different colours.</b> So if you found a rare one, the text wasn't just grey, it was blue text, and that meant that it was magic! So there were <i>some</i> colour variations to the text - <i>yes, we had colour text back then, this new-fangled colour text stuff..</i>. So the idea came from that, and then we kind of expanded on it,<b> but originally the idea came from <i>Angband</i>.</b>" <span><span>   </span></span></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><i>(GI Show. Game Informer.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646tWu_1yXE#t=2h37m">YouTube</a>. May 2019.) <br /></i><br /></p></blockquote> <p></p> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://games-cdn.softpedia.com/screenshots/Angband_1.jpg" style="clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="435" data-original-width="800" src="https://games-cdn.softpedia.com/screenshots/Angband_1.jpg" width="100%" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>These days, Angband is also available with graphics.</i></td></tr></tbody></table><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><i></i> <p>Blizzard had a smash hit with <i>Diablo</i> and its sequel, and went on to make<a href="https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Quality"> <i>World of Warcraft</i></a>, which was played by basically everyone. The influence of those games is visible in most games made today.</p><p>So, there you have it. Way back in the '90s, before the <i>roguelites </i>boom of the 2010s, roguelikes were silently changing the face of mainstream game design. And it was about much more than just randomly generated levels. This example shows that there are many valuable ideas and design patterns that originate in the roguelike genre. And, there may yet be many more that could be borrowed into other genres which the mainstream doesn't know about. 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Published in 1996, the game has increased in prominence in recent years, with 2019 seeing the first official <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDE_World_Fischer_Random_Chess_Championship_2019">FIDE World Fischer Random Chess Championship</a>.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The effect of varying the starting positions is to reduce the dependence on memorizing openings. This potentially quite interesting game is sadly marred by sharing a name with its creator, </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Bobby Fischer, </span>the Holocaust-denying Hitler fanboy of the chess world. To avoid giving this vile man any more respect than he deserves, which is to say none at all, I will be referring to the game as Chess960. </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">"Fischerandom" and "Chess960" are </span>both variant names accepted by chess programs.</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><h3 class="western"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Using polyhedral dice for Chess960 starting positions</span></h3><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Starting positions are mirrored between the two players, so the randomization process for Chess960 needs to only fill in one player's home rank. The second player's starting positions are implied by the first player's.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The starting positions of the pieces have the following constraints:</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><ul style="text-align: left;"><li><span style="font-family: inherit;">The player's two bishops must be on squares of opposite colours.</span></li><li><span style="font-family: inherit;">The player's king must be between the two rooks (to allow castling as in standard chess).</span></li></ul><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">When a computer is not available, we can use a set of polyhedral dice (sometimes called "roleplaying dice" or "D&D dice") to determine the starting positions.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhMPCHDhwi-LsDFGrkUECafj8Rb6wGvvaFdCSs-FkGUZGcyl87wBPOeIyKYgpYRVIIT4gUKGe5wKldqDJy3zzjt9sNgzUdIgeAuqp7tNgN2kLwmppPp9OGzVpNfbxxWhIWVMiT0WRYUUwM/s848/1.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="848" data-original-width="848" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhMPCHDhwi-LsDFGrkUECafj8Rb6wGvvaFdCSs-FkGUZGcyl87wBPOeIyKYgpYRVIIT4gUKGe5wKldqDJy3zzjt9sNgzUdIgeAuqp7tNgN2kLwmppPp9OGzVpNfbxxWhIWVMiT0WRYUUwM/s320/1.png" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Image 1.</b> The pawns always start at the same positions. </span><p></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">A rank on a chess board has 8 columns/squares, 4 of each color. Thus, there are 4 possible positions for each bishop. Using polyhedral dice, this can be rolled using two d4 (one of each colour).</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Let's assume we rolled a 2 and a 2, placing the bishops on columns c and d.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjO3qizqTEzETrD3ZxXtweJZw2AERzbVi3g89Z_tHBA-P0x_VC6nfVitduE3KR5yNuzIyjLJ8LAMb6pSkP1G5FH0H6q9zF3d7_MDbDrQ4fTRupLPBLU1b9IG_cTCezikO1oFrs2NPi4_pE/s848/2.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="848" data-original-width="848" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjO3qizqTEzETrD3ZxXtweJZw2AERzbVi3g89Z_tHBA-P0x_VC6nfVitduE3KR5yNuzIyjLJ8LAMb6pSkP1G5FH0H6q9zF3d7_MDbDrQ4fTRupLPBLU1b9IG_cTCezikO1oFrs2NPi4_pE/s320/2.png" /></a></div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <p></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Image 2.</b> The bishops have been placed.<br /></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span> <p></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">6 squares remain, and the queen is placed next on any one of them. This can be rolled using a d6.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Let's assume we rolled a 5 on the d6, placing the queen on column g.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEids2CvPd_jnjZvgq8nOPfg9ic6vGXMbkwNXU0u_Jm8j_KrnAOAdR54oOHPSR7AnArD_8Ho9hkfXyPaitTm8PGom7ni3h03WR7sCLl4JZ5lLTRGQa-fyWu5syyrjBGTm8hxHBZAyefQu2M/s848/3.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="848" data-original-width="848" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEids2CvPd_jnjZvgq8nOPfg9ic6vGXMbkwNXU0u_Jm8j_KrnAOAdR54oOHPSR7AnArD_8Ho9hkfXyPaitTm8PGom7ni3h03WR7sCLl4JZ5lLTRGQa-fyWu5syyrjBGTm8hxHBZAyefQu2M/s320/3.png" /></a></div><p></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Image 3.</b> The queen has been placed.<br /></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Then, with 5 squares remaining, the two knights are placed randomly on any of them. </span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Roll a d10. On a result of 1-5, place the first knight on the corresponding free square, and then the second knight on the next free position immediately to its right. On a result of 6-10, place the first knight in the same way (treating a 6 as a 1, and so on), but place the second knight two free positions to the right, instead of one. Wrap the second knight around, so that if there are no more free positions on the right, start counting from the left again.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">So, if our free positions are abefh, then the results on the die correspond to the following placements:<br /></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span> <table border="1"> <tbody><tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"><b> d10 </b></td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"><b> First knight </b></td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"><b> Second knight </b></td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>1</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> a </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> b </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>2</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> b </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> e </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>3</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> e </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> f </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>4</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> f </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> h </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>5</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> h </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> a </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>6</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> a </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> e </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>7</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> b </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> f </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>8</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> e </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> h </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>9</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> f </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> a </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> <b>10</b> </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> h </td> <td style="text-align: center;" width="33%"> b </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span> </p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Let's assume we rolled a 10 on the d10. The knights are then placed on columns h and b - or, equivalently, b and h.</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjFAlZ4opC3mRXJunDYTaAtToVh4tDA6m-MrtrF7IF3fYpBqtIxbl3RMctBTK0_-5Cvj_E6z6x5pxo8lVyJPzYJiEZ89h9H0u0t765lfRiVEauma2RC-vewK__MTSqt82vp8-byzn6jukA/s848/4.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="848" data-original-width="848" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjFAlZ4opC3mRXJunDYTaAtToVh4tDA6m-MrtrF7IF3fYpBqtIxbl3RMctBTK0_-5Cvj_E6z6x5pxo8lVyJPzYJiEZ89h9H0u0t765lfRiVEauma2RC-vewK__MTSqt82vp8-byzn6jukA/s320/4.png" /></a></div><p></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Image 4.</b> The knights have been placed in b1 and h1.<br /></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The 3 remaining squares can only be filled one way, due to the constraint that the king must be between the rooks.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj9S327veEVlf3Kmf9WSXJVbMlsWbWSZbLzS15e0d1rJBmMYxYTjD_yLkS80h5L9aZJNMEGbk0TsdUK5hHstArWx441gcyBiI6vaAOWNPUcqXHuFw4fjEcy_SiVkc4aT-aneF_r0G9wi9E/s848/5.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="848" data-original-width="848" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj9S327veEVlf3Kmf9WSXJVbMlsWbWSZbLzS15e0d1rJBmMYxYTjD_yLkS80h5L9aZJNMEGbk0TsdUK5hHstArWx441gcyBiI6vaAOWNPUcqXHuFw4fjEcy_SiVkc4aT-aneF_r0G9wi9E/s320/5.png" /></a></div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <p></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"></p><p><b><span style="font-family: inherit;">Image 5</span>.</b> <span style="font-family: inherit;">The rooks and king have been placed. All positions have been selected. Now, all that remains is to fill out the other player's positions as a mirror image.</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHRr2Xl7HATSYacGj57K_md8HwLLQLKJ-4P6e5EsVUoiOUVIttT4uZFqsGKgQ5K4dvh_EuM2QUrUnriSw6-nXX1FNEno_MCJuB2o_AUnaK3FAY7uUfxiC8rcj5kl9JFvFfSXE1peLJ-6g/s848/6.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="848" data-original-width="848" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHRr2Xl7HATSYacGj57K_md8HwLLQLKJ-4P6e5EsVUoiOUVIttT4uZFqsGKgQ5K4dvh_EuM2QUrUnriSw6-nXX1FNEno_MCJuB2o_AUnaK3FAY7uUfxiC8rcj5kl9JFvFfSXE1peLJ-6g/w320-h320/6.png" width="320" /></a></div><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span><p></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Image 6.</b> The final starting positions for both players. White to play.<br /></span> </p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">There are 4 x 4 x 6 x 10 = 960 different starting positions.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Using our example method of generating these positions with polyhedral dice, four dice are needed: a black d4, a white d4, and a d6 and a d10. Or, you can roll the same d4 two times in sequence, once for each bishop.<br /></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The method for determining knight positions given here is only one of many possibilities, chosen here because it avoids rerolls and redundancies and seems like something I could remember. I recommend using any rule which you find easy to remember to avoid having to consult a player aid.</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span></p><h3 style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Other randomized chess variants<br /></span></h3><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_chess"><b>Transcendental chess</b></a></i> is another randomized chess variant, invented in 1978 by Maxwell Lawrence, (a full 18 years earlier than Chess960). In transcendental chess, the constraint on the rook and king positions does not apply, and castling is removed. Rather than mirroring the board, each player's positions are determined independently. Additionally, a player may use their first turn to swap two pieces on their back row, instead of making a move.</span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> As many setups will have one side starting at an advantage, it will perhaps be sporting to play two games for each setup, changing sides in between.</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="http://www.d-chess.com/"><i><b>D-chess</b></i></a> is similar to transcendental chess, but rather than playing two games, one player gets to choose the side they think is stronger, and the other player gets the option to swap two pieces and also gets the first move.</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><h3 class="western"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Is there room for randomization in chess?</span></h3><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Traditional chess is fully deterministic, with no random factors. Everything depends on the players' decisions. In many other games and sports, much of the excitement comes from the combination of luck and skill. Their interplay allows for bold risk-taking and dramatic upsets. Far from the usual derision of chance as a factor that makes skill completely irrelevant, taking the right risks at the right time is a skill in itself. Reacting to unlikely chance occurrences can also be a kind of skill, as can knowing and regulating the impact of uncertainty on one's strategy.</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">In the Wikipedia article linked above, you can read quotes from chess grandmasters on shuffle chess. Some even go as far as saying it's "the future". Reading between the lines, one can get the impression that the game's lack of excitement and human drama is hampering its public profile and influx of new players. Could adding a chance element make chess a bit... well, less boring?<br /></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The interplay of chance and skill in games can be broadly divided into two categories: chance that comes after a player's decision, and that which comes before a player's decision. In other words<span lang="fi-FI">,</span> <span lang="fi-FI">"randomness</span> of outcome<span lang="fi-FI"></span>" or <b>output randomness</b>, and "<span lang="fi-FI"></span>randomness of setup<span lang="fi-FI"></span>" or <b>input randomness</b>. For example, a chess variant in which the attacker must roll a die to determine the success of a capture has output randomness<span lang="fi-FI"></span>. This kind of randomness promotes the correct gauging of risk, but<span lang="fi-FI"> it</span> typically has a very large effect on the game's outcome. </span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Meanwhile, a chess variant with randomized starting positions <span lang="fi-FI">would be</span> in the second category, having input randomness. The initial positions may have a large effect on the <span lang="fi-FI">o</span>dds of wining, but beyond that, the only measure of skill is in how the players react and adapt to this new and surprising situation. The player makes an informed decision, and its result is deterministic. </span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">It may be noted that within board games, the output randomness design pattern is more common in <b>American-style boardgames</b> such as <i>Risk</i>, which often include direct conflict, and combat resolution mechanics resembling wargames or <i>Dungeons & Dragons</i>. <span lang="fi-FI">There, u</span>ncertainty is a tool to heighten drama. <b>European-style games</b>, meanwhile, have little or no output randomness, and <span lang="fi-FI">typically less</span> hidden information. A <span lang="fi-FI">Eurogame</span> may include input randomness through a randomized initial setup, but from there onward the players' decisions have largely deterministic results<span lang="fi-FI">. This typically</span> makes for <span lang="fi-FI">a game </span>that <span lang="fi-FI">requires </span>careful planning.</span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Chess, while considered an early wargame, has neither the elements of dice-based combat resolution nor hidden information (fog of war) featured in many wargames starting with the 19th-century <i>Kriegsspiel</i>. It could be argued that adding input randomness to chess through randomized initial setups would turn it into "a Euro-style boardgame".</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><h3 class="western" lang="fi-FI"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Genres & generations</span></h3><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Arguably the most important games of the 20th century were chess, poker, and <i><b>Dungeons & Dragons</b></i> <span lang="fi-FI">(</span>in increasing order of <span lang="fi-FI">randomness). D&D's</span> influence has been huge not only in traditional roleplaying games but also in video games and board games. <span lang="fi-FI">Its </span>dice-based combat system has bee<span lang="fi-FI">n</span> <span lang="fi-FI">passed down</span> through <i>Rogue</i>, <i>Nethack</i>, <i>Dungeon Crawl</i>, <i>Diablo</i>, <i>Elder Scrolls</i>, <i>Final Fantasy</i>, and so on - essentially, the entire "RPG" videogame genre<span lang="fi-FI">,</span> and beyond. </span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span lang="fi-FI">Alt</span>hough D&D came from the wargaming tradition, it is a cooperative game, not a competitive one. <span lang="fi-FI">Unlike D&D</span> and the mostly single-player RPGs<span lang="fi-FI"> it inspired</span>, some games in <span lang="fi-FI">this </span>lineage are <span lang="fi-FI">competitive. <i>Dota</i></span><i> 2</i> is a multiplayer game <span lang="fi-FI">of conflict </span>with quite clear D&D-style elements<span lang="fi-FI">.</span> <i>Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup</i> is a single-player game in the <i>roguelike </i>genre which is played in competitive tournament formats.</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span></p><h3 style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Chesslikes?<br /></span></h3><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Interestingly, while the roguelike genre is known for its large degree of <span lang="fi-FI">randomness, </span>in recent years there has been more experimentation in <span lang="fi-FI"></span>minimizing output randomness, removing the dice resolution of combat in favour of deterministic models. What is left is just a randomization of maps - input randomness. Often, the entire map is revealed to the player, reducing hidden information as well. This could be seen as a move towards a "Eurogame-ization" of roguelikes. Examples include <i>868-HACK</i>, <i>Hoplite</i>, and <i>HyperRogue</i>, in which the levels, enemy positions, and powerups are random, but attacks cannot miss and damage is predictable. These games have been described as abstract roguelikes, "<a href="http://www.roguetemple.com/z/hyper/press.php">tactical puzzles</a>", or even feeling "<a href="https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/bestest-best-roguelite-hoplite-challenge-mode">chess-like</a>". Here, chess-like is being used as an adjective - for now at least, <i>chesslikes </i>are not a recognized game genre. <br /></span></p><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">But... what if? </span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/proxy/AVvXsEgnV5pGNKiYKOYBc-Q8B6aZp7R2ZespPuw7bBzr7xhVxMBZBsUgFEMblZ3xby4RvR2-7OgHfkpH4W8UBzDfIZN7Ud84W2a8XH9rHLsRfKi6DEs9qxJ2UnQS3M4GnzlZ=s1024-d" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="768" data-original-width="1024" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/proxy/AVvXsEgnV5pGNKiYKOYBc-Q8B6aZp7R2ZespPuw7bBzr7xhVxMBZBsUgFEMblZ3xby4RvR2-7OgHfkpH4W8UBzDfIZN7Ud84W2a8XH9rHLsRfKi6DEs9qxJ2UnQS3M4GnzlZ=w400-h300" width="400" /></a></div><b>Image 7.</b> A screenshot from <i>868-HACK</i> by Michael Brough. <a href="https://mightyvision.blogspot.com/2013/08/868-hack-ios.html">Source</a>.<br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><p></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Chess, with its deterministic head-to-head battles, and roguelikes with their iconically chaotic single-player experiences may seem as far apart as games can be. But at their core, both are games of tactics and strategy that play out on a square grid. Both require geometric pattern recognition - and heapings of experience and knowledge. Both are games that can hold a player's interest for 20 years or more.<br /></span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Perhaps as chess begins to include more random factors, and roguelikes lessen their <span lang="fi-FI"></span>output randomness, we will see the two genres move closer and closer until they almost seem to merge.<span lang="fi-FI"> Could we even begin to see roguelikes which play out as a battle between two opposing players? Who knows. 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The design goal is to make combat simpler and faster, but ideally, it should still be interesting and have some variety.</i></span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <br /> <h3> <span style="font-family: inherit;"> What is static and variable damage?</span></h3> <br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;">In the olden days of Chainmail, monsters and men took a certain number of <b>hits to kill</b>, regardless of weapon. The effectiveness of different weapons was modeled by their ability to score <a href="http://jrients.blogspot.com/2008/11/weapon-vs-what.html">a hit against each type of armor</a>, as presented in the <a href="http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2008/11/weapon-vs-ac.html">dreaded</a> MAN-TO-MAN MELEE TABLE. Then came Original Dungeons & Dragons, which introduced hit dice - instead of 1 hit-to-kill, men could take d6 points before death. LIkewise, <b>all weapons dealt d6 damage</b>. The damage roll introduced some variety to the outcomes of attacks. However, this system is still typically called "static weapon damage" in the sense that weapons were not differentiated.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <br /> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRqyfU3ZbnK-XYXIj79v4S0eEO_EUUKrQkTcCcOPUS6UDwccsc7HHZeitC52nZ_zUR9O8XD0nC5zRxCdDJw1mduBd9UVUcY4b6ePE9jToAHIEVf-wxFAQ3_zhA3uqQr3uSW0Tx5ROXToQu/s1600/mantoman.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="[mantoman.png]" border="0" height="145" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRqyfU3ZbnK-XYXIj79v4S0eEO_EUUKrQkTcCcOPUS6UDwccsc7HHZeitC52nZ_zUR9O8XD0nC5zRxCdDJw1mduBd9UVUcY4b6ePE9jToAHIEVf-wxFAQ3_zhA3uqQr3uSW0Tx5ROXToQu/s400/mantoman.png" width="400" /></a></span></div> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">The Greyhawk supplement introduced the "alternative combat system" with its "damage done by weapon type", or what we would call <b>variable weapon damage.</b> Daggers dealt d4 damage, spears d6, and swords d8, as they do to this day. This was wildly popular and was carried over to Moldvay's Basic - though it should be pointed out that it was presented as an optional rule. The default in Moldvay was still the fixed d6 damage rule.</span><br /> <br /> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_c2vZvpdZ2QaW837h1gyOw1GBETa1rMgVZqTJAddS3xY-Bt0Lmzt4mGtwFL_v5QGmS1bpHj7A2Jt6AOqUmZmJc7-eJWINKOgA9CbpGejEfGTMQVNXaYlXVQQ-uv58d7s3Q3T_WKsqPRQ/s1600/Gaming_dice_multisided_blue.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="265" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_c2vZvpdZ2QaW837h1gyOw1GBETa1rMgVZqTJAddS3xY-Bt0Lmzt4mGtwFL_v5QGmS1bpHj7A2Jt6AOqUmZmJc7-eJWINKOgA9CbpGejEfGTMQVNXaYlXVQQ-uv58d7s3Q3T_WKsqPRQ/s400/Gaming_dice_multisided_blue.jpg" width="400" /></a></span></div> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">So, the main ways of <b>differentiating weapons</b> are:</span><br /> <ul> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">variable damage (die size, flat bonus, roll and keep...)</span></li> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">damage adjustments against different foes (e.g. bonus against large creatures) </span></li> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">adjustments to hit (e.g. against different armor or weapon types)</span></li> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">critical hit range (20, 19-20...) and damage (2x, 3x...)</span></li> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">secondary special features (spears can attack from 2nd rank, crossbows must be reloaded...)</span></li> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">number of attacks</span></li> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">tertiary properties such as weight, price, initiative adjustments, durability, social status...</span></li> </ul> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <br /> <h3> <span style="font-family: inherit;"> What's the problem with static damage?</span></h3> <br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;">I'm not really a simulationist. I'm not aiming to represent historical combat faithfully. But I still want a <i>little </i>mechanical differentiation to support the difference in fiction, obvious to anyone, between stabbing with a dagger vs. swinging a greataxe. And, honestly, combat without damage rolls might end up feeling a bit sterile, so making weapon choice and tactics a meaningful decision will help spice it up.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">In my <i>B/X-hack-via-OD&D-and-Blackmoor</i> (name pending), I obviously cannot vary weapon damage, since I'm not using dice for it. Certain weapons doing 2 or 3 hits (or "Wounds" as I'm calling them) instead of 1 would be far too large a difference, when most low-level monsters like skeletons and orcs can only take a single Wound.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">I don't usually like double-damage critical hits in D&D, and prefer a natural 20s as simply automatic hits. But when playing with Wounds, I would consider including criticals just to add <i>some</i> variety to the proceedings. However, when facing monsters that always die in a single hit (HD 1 types like orcs), doing "double hits" on criticals does not matter at all.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Is there some solution, some system of <b>differentiating weapons while keeping fixed damage</b>? Ideally, any solution would include a minimum of three "tiers" of weapons in terms of weight/effectiveness: simple weapons like daggers, martial weapons like swords, and two-handed weapons, at least. (If spears don't have their own tier between daggers and swords, then they will have to be combined with either, becoming strictly superior in that damage tier, due to their additional property of <i>reach</i>.)</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">One possibility is to do something like what Chainmail does: give the weapons different to-hit adjustments against different armors. But that sort of thing is part of the reason I wanted to get away from LotFP in the first place. I don't want to remember what bonus which weapon gets over what AC threshold, and doubtfully do my players either. (Maybe if the LotFP adjustments were stated in terms of "against targets in metal armor" and so on, rather than AC numbers, I would've hated them less.) I don't want "weapon vs. AC" lookup tables. If my goal is to make combat fast, having to consult a table is not going to help.</span><br /> <br /> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Weird_Tales%2C_Jan_1946_p5.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="Weird Tales, Jan 1946 p5.png" border="0" class="mw-mmv-final-image png" crossorigin="anonymous" height="300" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Weird_Tales%2C_Jan_1946_p5.png" width="400" /></a></span></div> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <br /> <h3> <span style="font-family: inherit;"> The solution: Variable Critical Hit Range by Weapon + Overkill</span></h3> <br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Yes, there <i>is</i> a solution to all this!</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">First, the solution to critical hits not mattering against mobs of orcs is the Overkill rule: Whenever your attack kills an enemy with Wounds left over, you can <b>carry over the excess Wounds</b> to another target (as long as its AC is equal or worse than the killed target's.) Thus, when you score a critical against an HD 1 orc, you now kill <i>two</i> of them in one blow.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Secondly, and far more importantly: <b>Critical hit range now depends on weapon type</b>. Variable crit range, in other words. For example, daggers never score critical hits. Spears score them on a natural 20. Greatswords score critical hits on a natural 18-20.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <br /> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="3" frame="VOID" rules="NONE"> <colgroup><col width="154"></col><col width="126"></col><col width="180"></col></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="154"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Weapons</span></b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="126"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Critical Range</span></b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="180"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Other</span></b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Dagger</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">-</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Riposte</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; 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border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">-</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Two-handed</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Rapier</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">20</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Riposte</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Spear</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">20</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Reach</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Axe/mace/shortsword</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">20</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">-</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Sword</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">19+</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">-</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Polearm</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">19+</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Reach, two-handed</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Greatsword/greataxe</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">18+</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Two-handed</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Sling</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">-</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">-</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Shortbow</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">20</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">-</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Longbow</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">19+</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">-</span></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Crossbow</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">18+</span></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman";">Reload</span></span></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Thirdly:<b> Fighters score 3 Wounds on critical hits</b>. Everyone else scores 2 Wounds.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Fourthly, a minor point: Specialists/Thieves, when landing a Sneak Attack, automatically deal a critical hit (even if the weapon is not normally capable of critting).</span><br /> <br /> <h3> </h3> <h3> <span style="font-family: inherit;"> Rationale</span></h3> <br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Note, firstly, that weapons fit neatly into four tiers. Moving one step down in critical range will usually give you one positive feature, and vice versa: rapiers and spears aren't quite as damaging as standard swords, but they have interesting secondary features. Axes and maces, likewise, have their own situational benefits over swords. Shortswords are strictly worse than standard swords - but hobbits can wield shortswords in one hand, while they require two hands for an axe, mace or sword.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">A polearm has reach, and that's why it's not <i>quite </i>as devastating as the undisputed king of damage, the greatsword. If polearms and greatswords were equally damaging, polearms would be the strictly superior option - which <i>may </i>be a historically accurate rendition, but not one I want to adhere to in my swords-and-sorcery inspired campaign.</span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;">  <img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Harold_S_Delay_-_Red_Nails_I.png" style="-webkit-user-select: none; margin: auto;" /></span> <br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">In every case, <b>players will have to choose</b> - do they take axes to chop down doors or spears for reach? Or do they forgo these benefits, focusing on damage? In this aspect, the system works very similarly to one with variable damage dice.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">However, critical hits are automatic hits, which means they have interesting <b>interactions with AC</b> that must be analyzed. The <i>number of attacks that critically</i> does not depend on target AC. But the <i>number of regular hits does</i>. Thus, the higher the target's AC, the larger the <i>contribution of criticals to average damage</i>.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">The table below shows the relative damage increase from using a critically-hitting weapon, compared to a common baseline. The assumed baseline is a weapon that cannot critically hit for double damage - a dagger, in our case.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Relative improvement over non-crit damage vs. Required d20 roll to hit.</b></span><br /> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="14" frame="VOID" rules="NONE"> <colgroup><col width="82"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col><col width="39"></col></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" height="18" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="82"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Crit range/damage</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>8</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>9</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>10</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>11</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>12</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>13</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>14</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>15</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>16</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>17</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>18</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>19</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="39"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>20</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" height="18" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>20 / 2x</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">8%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">8%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">9%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">10%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">11%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">13%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">14%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">17%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">20%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">25%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">33%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">50%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">100%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" height="18" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>20 / 3x</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">15%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">17%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">18%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">20%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">22%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">25%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">29%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">33%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">40%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">50%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">67%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">100%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">200%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" height="18" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>19+ / 2x</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">15%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">17%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">18%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">20%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">22%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">25%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">29%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">33%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">40%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">50%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">67%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">100%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">200%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" height="18" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>19+ / 3x</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">31%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">33%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">36%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">40%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">44%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">50%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">57%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">67%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">80%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">100%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">133%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">200%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FF3333" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">400%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" height="18" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>18+ / 2x</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">23%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">25%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">27%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">30%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">33%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">38%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">43%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">50%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">60%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">75%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">100%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">150%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FF3333" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">300%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" height="18" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>18+ / 3x</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">46%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">50%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">55%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">60%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">67%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">75%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFFF66" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">86%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">100%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">120%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">150%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FFCC00" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">200%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FF3333" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">300%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" bgcolor="#FF3333" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">600%</span></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Note a couple things.</span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Firstly, a critical range/damage of 19-20/3x is better than 18-20/2x. In my system, this translates to: <b>a Fighter deals greater (average) damage with a sword than a Thief does with a greatsword</b>. The Thief still gains a benefit from using a greatsword, but the gain is smaller than for a Fighter. This is perfect for me, since I'm not using any class-based weapon restrictions. I want even Magic-Users to use swords if they want to - they just won't be as effective with swords as Fighters or Thieves.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Secondly, the benefit of using a heavier weapon is relatively more important when the required to-hit roll is higher - that is, when target AC is higher. In practical terms: it turns out <b>greatswords and polearms "penetrate" armor better</b> in this system. This may not be entirely realistic, but it's good enough for me. When you're fighting fleshy unarmored peasants, an axe or dagger will do; for dragons or armored paladins, consider bringing something heavier.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">I think this system could be incredibly powerful - effectively, it is a "weapon vs. armor type" system <b>without requiring any table lookups</b>, nor any secondary rolls. You simply note the crit range on your sheet when you pick up a new weapon, and it stays the same no matter what foe you're fighting - though it results in different outcomes. The baked-in math does all the magic. I think this counts as following the philosophy which <a href="https://goblinpunch.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-glog.html">the GLOG</a> states as: "Consolidate ruthlessly. Turn two rolls into one, turn one roll into none. <b>Turn tables into formulas</b>, turn formulas into static numbers."</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <br /> <h3> <span style="font-family: inherit;">How does it stack up?</span></h3> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">So within the new system, the weapons seem to work great relative to each other. But what about the damage increases overall? Aren't those percentages a bit high, you ask? To compare this to the original games, let's look at how much of a boost variable weapon damage in B/X gives you. Let's choose the d4 as the baseline for comparison, since our earlier copmarison used a non-critting dagger/staff as the baseline.</span><br /> <br /> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="4" frame="VOID" rules="NONE"> <colgroup><col width="179"></col><col width="51"></col><col width="64"></col><col width="130"></col></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="179"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>B/X weapon equivalent</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="51"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Die</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="64"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Average</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="130"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Improvement over d4</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Unarmed</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d2</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1.5</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">-40%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">-</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d3</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">2</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">-20%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Dagger</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d4</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">2.5</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">0%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">-</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d5</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">3</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">20%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Spear</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d6</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">3.5</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">40%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">-</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d7</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">4</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">60%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Sword</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d8</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">4.5</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">80%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Greatsword</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d10</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">5.5</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">120%</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">-</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d12</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">6.5</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">160%</span></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">In our new system, let's say a 1st level PC (+1 to hit) is attacking an enemy in plate (AC 17, roll needed to hit = 16). In the variable crit range system, how does your choice of weapon affect your damage, and what damage die does it correspond to in the variable damage system?</span><br /> <br /> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="6" frame="VOID" rules="NONE"> <colgroup><col width="86"></col><col width="86"></col><col width="102"></col><col width="105"></col><col width="143"></col><col width="86"></col></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="32" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="86"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Crit range/damage</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="86"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Damage improvement</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="102"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Example attacker</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="105"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Example weapon</b></span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="143"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Equivalent variable damage</b></span></td><td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;" width="86"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>  Equivalent bonus to-hit</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"> 20 / 2x</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">20%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Thief</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">spear</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d5</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">+1</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">20 / 3x</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">40%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Fighter</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">spear</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d6</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">+2</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">19+ / 2x</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">40%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Thief</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">polearm/sword</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d6</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">+3</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">19+ / 3x</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">80%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Fighter</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">polearm/sword</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d8</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">+4</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">18+ / 2x</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">60%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Thief</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">greatsword</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d7</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">+5</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="CENTER" height="17" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">18+ / 3x</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">120%</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Fighter</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">greatsword</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">d10</span></td> <td align="CENTER" style="border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">+6</span></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">So, against a plate-armored opponent, a Fighter's benefit (in terms of average damage) for grabbing a spear, sword or greatsword is<b> exactly the same as in B/X variable damage</b>! Thieves and Magic-Users are free to use swords and greatswords, but they'll effectively be using a smaller damage die - d6 or d7 - in a system without any damage rolls!</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">That's for 1st level PCs against a plate armor. Of course, if the enemy's armor is worse, or the attacker's to-hit is better, then weapon choice becomes de-emphasized compared to B/X. That is, greatswords give smaller improvements over daggers than they would under variable damage. Vice versa, if the target is better armored than a human in plate, then bringing a big weapon becomes even more important under this variable crit range system.</span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <br /> <h3> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Pros and cons of Variable Crit Range</span></h3> <br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;">In summary, the pros of using critical hit range to differentiate weapons and critical hit damage multiplier to differentiate classes:</span><br /> <ul> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">The player-facing mechanics work exactly the same regardless of the foe being fought  </span></li> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">It a sort of "armor penetration" effect without any need to consult charts</span></li> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">There is no need for weapon restrictions by class, yet Fighters still gain more of a boost</span></li> </ul> <span style="font-family: inherit;"> Cons:</span><br /> <ul> <li><span style="font-family: inherit;">As a caveat, one should be extremely careful about implementing "advantage" rolls into this system. Effectively doubling the chances of a crit can have quite massive effects when coupled with triple-damage crits. </span></li> </ul> <br /> <h3> <span style="font-family: inherit;">Minor caveats</span></h3> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><i>(Just to pre-empt a minor point: Daggers not being able to critically hit may go counter to expectations. However, the special-case rule that "any sneak attack that a Specialist/Thief lands is a critical hit regardless of weapon" means that sneak attacks with daggers are just as effective as those with greatswords. If you used variable weapon damage, and doubled damage on sneak attacks, then Thieves would be incentivized to use greatswords. Unless of course you implemented class-based weapon restrictions, which I don't want to do.)</i></span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><i><br /></i></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><i>As a side bonus: in addition to, or instead of, +to hit magical weapons, you could have "keen weapons" that have a greater-than-normal critical range - keen rapiers that crit on 19-20, and so on. If you really wanted to get into the weeds incentivizing genre faithfulness, you could even give dwarves an increased critical range with axes and hammers (bringing them up to par with the sword), etc. etc.</i></span><br /> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><i><br /></i></span> <span style="font-family: inherit;"><i>By the way, in case you're wondering how a +1 to crit range compares with a +1 to hit, see the last column in the previous table. 20/2x is equivalent (in average damage improvement) to a +1 to hit, 20/3x and 19+/2x to a +2 to hit, and so on. So, if you're not a Fighter, each point of critical range is worth +1 to hit (+1/+2/+3). If you are a Fighter, then each point of critical range is worth +2 to hit (+2/+4/+6). 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