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Husk å ta med alle detaljene ovenfor.</div></div><hr /> <p>Du kan se og kopiere kildekoden til denne siden: </p><textarea readonly="" accesskey="," id="wpTextbox1" cols="80" rows="25" style="" class="mw-editfont-monospace" lang="nb" dir="ltr" name="wpTextbox1">== Land i infoboks biografi == Ifølge denne [[Wikipedia:Torget/Arkiv/2020/oktober#Nasjonalitet_i_infoboks_biografi]] bør såvidt jeg kan forstå ledeteksten i infoboksen endres til land/stat eller noe slikt (hentes fra Wikidata P27), i stedet for det tvetydige nasjonalitet. Kan noen fikse dette? Jeg våger ikke å røre disse kompliserte infoboksene. --Vennlig hilsen ''[[Bruker:Erik den yngre|Erik d.y.]]'' 15. nov. 2020 kl. 17:36 (CET) :Men er ikke «land/stat eller noe slikt» like tvetydig, [[Bruker:Erik den yngre|Erik d.y.]]? Er det stedet vedkommende ble født? Eller vokste opp? Eller bor/bodde? Eller har/hadde statsborgerskap? Eller hva? I diskusjonen du viser til, skrev [[Bruker:GAD|GAD]]: «(Personlig hint: Er dette så viktig å ha med i infoboksen?)» [[Spesial:Bidrag/89.8.169.36|89.8.169.36]] 17. nov. 2020 kl. 23:01 (CET) ::Det handler om å plassere personen i verden. Dette er en nøkkelopplysning sammen med fødeår og beskjeftigelse, og er helt standard i leksikon. Infoboksen har med nøkkelopplysninger (det er cluet med en infoboks), mens teksten detaljerer i den grad det er nødvendig. Men dette er an avsporing. Poenget er at infoboksen gjengir P27 som er statsborgerskap (eller mer generelt statstilknytning) og da bør det stå stat/land slik at det matcher. --Vennlig hilsen ''[[Bruker:Erik den yngre|Erik d.y.]]'' 18. nov. 2020 kl. 00:01 (CET) :::Men uinnvidde som kun ser på infoboksen, vil jo ikke kunne være sikre på at det dreier seg om statsborgerskap, dersom det bare står «land/stat». [[Spesial:Bidrag/89.8.169.36|89.8.169.36]] 18. nov. 2020 kl. 00:32 (CET) ::::Nasjonalitet er notorisk tvetydig, det er feks noen som tror at kurdisk hører til der. Det burde kanskje stå statsborgerskapet, men det er et moderne begrep og passer ikke for en del historiske personer. Men alt er velkjent etter utallige diskusjoner. Det er på tide med løsning. En mulighet er å sette på en fotnote eller en forklarende tekst. --Vennlig hilsen ''[[Bruker:Erik den yngre|Erik d.y.]]'' 18. nov. 2020 kl. 00:42 (CET) :::::IP 89.8.169.36, hvis det står "Stat" og du da mener at DET ikke vil oppfattes som statsborgerskap - ærlig talt, SÅ dumme skal vi ikke tro at folk flest ER... Erik nevner her vel og merke et hovedpoeng i denne saken, nemlig at "nasjonalitet" IKKE er et entydig begrep, selv om enkelte folk faktisk tror dette. Følgelig er det "Statsb." man bør skrive om dette, men NOTA BENE, denne infoboksen må da også lages slik at man ved behov (som for de fleste tilfeller vil være ved historiske personer) må kunne fjerne feltet fra boksen, evt. lage en henvisning til teksten som lettere kan forklare de avvik vi uvegerlig vil komme over. [[Bruker:Autokefal Dialytiker|Autokefal Dialytiker]] ([[Brukerdiskusjon:Autokefal Dialytiker|diskusjon]]) 18. nov. 2020 kl. 00:55 (CET) ::::::Ja det er bare å skrive «uten» så vises det ikke noe i infoboksen. 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